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68: Dumb Blonde: Viking Barbie & Keta- Mental Illness & New Music

2020/10/21
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一位专注于喜剧、趋势和生活方式的播客主持人,通过《Dumb Blonde》播客与听众分享各种热门话题和个人经历。
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Keta Musik和Viking Barbie在匿名戒酒互助会上相遇,她们都患有边缘型人格障碍和躁郁症,并分享了各自在成瘾和康复方面的经历。她们的音乐创作过程充满了情感,反映了她们在心理健康和成瘾方面的挣扎与克服。她们合作的专辑《Borderline》包含了她们各自在人生低谷时期创作的歌曲,并融合了她们对药物治疗的看法,以及对自我接纳和实现目标的感悟。 Viking Barbie将她的音乐描述为她精神疾病的体现,既有女性说唱歌手Eminem的风格,也有Lana Del Rey和Billie Eilish的元素。她分享了她12岁时失去父亲的经历,以及这段经历如何塑造了她。她强调了接纳自己每个部分的重要性,以及在人生不同阶段需要舍弃旧有自我的必要性。 Bunnie作为导演参与了她们音乐录影带的制作,她分享了她对她们音乐的喜爱,以及她们音乐录影带的拍摄过程,并对她们的音乐表达了高度赞赏。她还谈到了她们专辑中一些歌曲的主题,例如《Broken Wings》这首歌反映了她们在成瘾和康复方面的共同经历,以及《Bury Yourself》这首歌的视频内容。

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Keta Musik and Viking Barbie met through mutual connections in the music industry and quickly developed a collaborative relationship, leading to the creation of multiple songs together.

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What's up you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today I have my girls in the house. I am so excited. You guys might have listened to, I believe it was episode 12, I had Viking Barbie on and she told us a little bit of her backstory. And then just recently I brought in one of her best friends, I Am Kata Music, and you guys got to see her podcast. And I'm so happy now that you guys actually get to see Viking Barbie here. What's up guys? How are you? Hi.

We didn't have any visuals on my last one. I felt kind of like offended. Well, my fucking... I was too ugly for it. I think that's what you told me. No.

She said, you're too ugly. Never. My fucking videographer stole my footage along with the fucking $8,000 camera that my husband bought. So he was a real piece of shit. I was surprising because that guy seems so nice. It's always the ones that seem like they're nice, right? So you guys are out here. I just want to get straight to the point and let's start talking about it because I feel like we have so much stuff to cover.

I met Viking Barbie about what like a year ago yeah like a year maybe even a year and a half yeah like it's been a while when you decided to come on the podcast you actually believed in my vision which I thought was really cool and I reached out to you and you were like hell yeah I'll come on the podcast I was so excited you know and then I met you and I was like dude this bitch is like hella down to earth I was like she's like totally my people you came on the podcast you told your story I

of recovery and just you know where you are now and now you're doing you were doing music back then and then we somehow intertwined and got you guys here with jay and now you guys are making music out here in nashville which is why you guys are out here now so let's start from the beginning where did you two meet in the program anonymous alcoholics non-holics anonymous

Give us a little backstory. We know yours because your podcast just recently came out. So give us a little backstory about your drugs of choice and what led you to getting into recovery. My drugs of choice were opiates, typically. And obviously, you can't have a good opiate fix without some cocaine in the mix. So it was those two mainly. But obviously, I started with alcohol. Everything always starts with alcohol for me. I just don't like it very much.

So then, yeah, I ended up going, obviously getting arrested later and going through all that. I was using drugs for like 10 years, you know, from the time I was like 16, 15 or 16 on. Got sober, went to like a low bottom indigent rehab with like

homeless people and toothless hookers basically. And, uh, you know, and that was cool. It's right. It's humbling. You know what I mean? To like, I didn't go to the places that have the massages and you know, the Olympic pools. I went to a free basically rehab, but, um, like state assisted. Yeah. And, uh, well, if I actually got mine paid for, um, my mom helped me out. She was pretty desperate to get me clean. Um,

And so I got clean and then like I started, you know, obviously I've been in the program sponsoring women, doing all that, work the steps multiple times, you know, all that. And then I met her, I think in a music meeting.

So like there's like a meeting where you can go and like play music and like I would go there and just listen. I never sang. I never did anything because I was like, you know, I like to keep that stuff locked away. Yeah. I like I'm like, I have no talent. I swear, you know, and then just spring it out on people when they least expect it. I just I just don't want to be I like I'd rather have like lower your expectations set the bar super low.

And then like, and then just blow your mind. And that's pretty much what I've done my whole life. I live by it. Like my whole family thinks I'm doing great, even though I do basically porn. Right. Because they're like, same over here. I'm like, I'm the black sheep that turned into the goat. Right. Because you're like, dude, it's like, she's not on heroin anymore and she's not in jail. And so they're like, she's doing great. Yeah.

But yeah, so I met her in the music meeting and we didn't really talk that much. I just saw her a few times. We ended up following each other on Instagram. I think my account was pretty big that she was following at the time. It was a different account, not the Viking Barbie account. And yeah, my Kaylee Swinson account. And she kind of hit me up. Well, I was following her and I followed her strictly because she would have like these music posts on there. And I was like, dude, this chick is fucking hella talented. And I'm like not...

often impressed by certain things and it's not because I don't think people are talented but I'm a writer. It takes a lot. I write poetry so like when you like hear someone's poetry like I write poetry too and it's like the cat sat on the hat and I'm like bro like that's deep like I don't want to be a dick but like I'm always nice you know but like she had these amazing like things she'd post that she wrote and I was like dude this chick's talented. I kept telling my um my friends or my boyfriend or whoever was around when I was looking I was like this chick's like really talented she had like barely any followers

And then she hit me up one day. She was doing like some photo shoot or something. She was trying to grow her Instagram and she was like, hey, can I buy like a promo post from you? I didn't fucking really know her. Yeah. But I was like,

all right, well, I'll just throw you up on my page. You know what I mean? Because I was like, you know, I liked your music and stuff. And she's also in the program and my whole thing, like in the program, you like, you just help. You don't say no. You just give back to the other alcoholic, whether it's something stupid like that. So then I did that and then ended up like fast forward later. You know, I needed help on writing a song that was initially just supposed to be kind of like a, like a jokey thing. You know what I mean? And yeah,

and then I went in with her I was like I hit her up I was like hey can you help me out and she's like sure I'm gonna take you to my producer this and that and like we ended up like in this whole thing where we wrote like three song it was supposed to be one then it ended up two then three you guys just vibed and yeah we vibed it was weird and in the beginning like I wasn't you pull hold on we pull that microphone closer baby because I can barely hear you thank you I'm right here we know Kata is not quiet for some reasons I can't

So we basically just, you know, started vibing and like when we wrote like it was like this weird like little it just kind of worked because like, you know, she's obviously a writer. I'm a writer, but I didn't really know how to put my writing into into music form yet. Right. I didn't really know how to like, you know, write a song.

you know, emote when I was rapping or do like, there was just a lot of little things that like, it takes years of practice to learn. And that like in working together, you know, she kind of started like coaching me a little bit and then, and then it became kind of like a protege type thing. And then it turned into a full like relationship. Yeah. Like a friendship. And then before you know it, we're writing like together and we're doing everything together. And then we kind of, we can both tell each other like, Oh, do this with like this or

It's just kind of, it all worked. And I think like just the fact that we're both in the program or we both met in the program, it just kind of like all laid out. Yeah. This is obviously pretty insane too. So that kind of helps. Well, if anybody listens to you guys' music, which they can, you just got your YouTube up, which I'm so proud of you, which is what shouted out really quick. Yeah. Oh yeah. It's Kate and Lauren. Uh, K E T A L O R E N. Okay. That's a new name by the way. Yeah. Yeah.

She was trying to be like Madonna and just be like one name and it was getting lost everywhere. And I was like, bitch, you need a last name. I had an accent in my name, which makes you unsearchable, ungoogleable. So I was like, all right, well, no, we made it when you can just go by a symbol. Oh, yeah. I can't wait for those. Hey, Prince.

Shout out Prince. Teach us your ways. And then so your music people can find on your Viking Barbie YouTube channel. And that's the videos that you guys have done together. And if people listen to you guys' music, they'll know that you guys are kind of insane. What would you describe? Viking Barbie music is my YouTube channel. It's obvious. What would you, if you could put your music in a category, what would it be? I wouldn't say a category because, okay, so we both have borderline personality disorder and among other things, I don't want to go into everything.

We've been talking about all the things. No, no, no, please do it. I think it's really cool. I think people need to know that beautiful women battle mental illness. And I think people need to normalize that because looking at your pictures and your pictures online, they would just be like, you know, these bitches are beautiful. You know, like they don't have a fucking care in the world. We talk about this all the time. We have all the cares. We have many cares. I don't have...

Well, Kaylee's like, I don't really have any cares. I don't like care. I have all of them. But like I have a lot. Yeah, she cares a lot. I typically, I don't show them. And then sometimes I go through depression. I'm like, I feel everything. Yeah, this must be what you feel like. I'm like, dude, this is what it's like. I'm sorry, dude. Like, I like when like my mental illness is affecting those around me.

but like I'm not the one who has to suffer but lately is not been oh my god that's from Christmas story squirrel yeah so ADHD is one of those one of them is ADHD oh

Obviously. Borderline personality disorder. The bipolar disorder. I'm bipolar. I'm the fun kind. I don't like to say bipolar even though it's been tossed at me a few times. I think mine's situated. I think I'm mostly borderline and you know, the narcissism term has been tossed around but I'm not going to catch that one just yet. She's like, I promise I won't gaslight anybody on this podcast. Yeah, I'm not gaslighting anyone on this podcast. But you know. If you could put your music into a category, what would you guys say that you sound like?

So what I meant by when I brought the mental illness thing up is it's literally like my mental illness. Yeah. My mental illness is up and down and everywhere. And so there's some... So I guess it would be like almost like a... There's like female Eminem vibes. Yeah. Right. In some of it. Yeah.

And then there's like some Lana Del Rey vibes. Some Billie Eilish vibes. You're more like Christina Aguilera vibes. Oh yeah, no. We all know Kata's got a fucking amazing voice. If you guys haven't heard her sing, you need to scroll back and go into Kata's

interview that she did. You're so good to me. Dude, everybody loved you. Everybody loved you. They were like, please bring her back on. So here you are. Okay, so you guys met in, not rehab, but Alcoholics Anonymous. Alcoholics Anonymous. And then from there, you guys just kind of developed a relationship. I think you were brought to me by my boy from Vegas was like, dude, Viking Barbie just shouted out Jelly and wants to do a song with him.

So, of course, you know, I told Jay and I was like, this hot bitch wants to do a song with you. I think it would be a good look. Jay was like, look into it and stuff like that. So I started looking into your music. And that's before I asked you to come on the podcast. And I was like, dude, she really has something here, you know. And then that's when I noticed Kata, too, because all you guys' stuff is pretty much together. And I was like, dude, they have an awesome sound. So literally from the time that we met to now. You were fighting for us. I was like, I was sitting there like she's like, I swear I'm and, you know, a lot of people say it.

a lot of shit. I'm one of those people who actually does what I say. So I'm not used to that in other people. And like, she was like constantly, you're just constantly going. Now that you've met my husband, do you understand? No, I get it. And now I get why like it took a minute. Cause he's really, he's like, what's this about? He's very particular. Doesn't just work with anybody. I think he should be. No, you have to be. Yeah. Because people, people are snakes, you know, a lot of times we have learned that and you don't want to give a chance to the wrong person, you know? And I think it took him, he wanted to see where our friendship went.

before he was like you know yeah sure i'll dive into this and when he realized you know he realized that you guys he says it all the time he's like dude kaylee and you are like fucking twins he's like it drives me crazy it's weird i don't realize it until you start talking i'll be like going through something i'll say something you'll be like oh yeah i do that too i'm like really yeah like i did not expect that from you yeah no for sure but i think what's cool is that jay sees the potential in you guys and you guys have been out here this week working on songs and

And you guys are about to drop your, not your first album, but like your first album with us. It is our first album. Oh, it is your first album. So I released singles and I haven't put anything. I was supposed to have an album back when. Back in the day. And called Borderline. And then it didn't end up, like I ended up releasing singles and I didn't end up putting together. I didn't really have a lot of, I didn't know what the fuck.

I was doing right and then um now we're gonna release borderline and I'm glad I'm doing it this way with people that actually like so the title of the album that's getting dropped is borderline we're the first one yeah we don't have an exact drop date yet we're still trying to work that out with daddy roll but it's gonna be pretty soon probably either end of October in November but we're hoping to like drop that shit soon so you guys got to look forward to that it's

called borderline but let's talk about these videos so this week you guys i had my directorial debut because this is all about me she killed it by the way it was on point you get that same word same word no i you know i i want to thank you guys for letting me have a part in this because i just it was so exciting and it was a part of the the industry that i'd never done before like i've done i've always been in front of the camera twiddling my twagger or whatever i gotta

And I never have got to go behind the camera and actually help a vision come to life. And just hearing you guys' music, like I love it. I played it for Monica. I played it, you know, everybody here has heard it and they just absolutely love it. Um,

One of the videos that you guys did you guys had literally tears the entire Everybody everybody even the men were crying I never realized Ryan our director was so emotional What is the name of the song broken wings and what is this song about I

recovery and mental illness and drug addiction and just like going but there's a deeper there's a deeper thing to it because so we came together when we were working on her album borderline originally she wanted it to show and this is how she explained it to me basically each of her personalities through you know suffering through mental illness borderline personality so what's behind door number two yeah exactly right so each song was supposed to be representative of a different part of

her personality and they're all very valid. I've looked at all of them. She was like, they're exciting. A lot of things going on. But the, one of the parts was, you know, about the addiction, which of course I heavily related to. We get this track and we're discussing, you know, she was like, I have this one song that I wrote a long time ago when I was in my addiction and I don't know, like, I don't, I didn't really know how to use it.

And then she sang it to me and I was like, that, that's great. And then I had this one song that I'm getting chills right now talking about it. That I was like, I was in this sober living. I made these people bring me this piano that they were going to throw away. Is it Torn that you're talking about? No, this is Broken Wings. Oh, I gotcha. Because Torn is another one. Yeah. So I wrote this song. I was like breaking down and I like, oh,

almost wasn't going to come through when I got this song and it was like, you know, do broken wings still fly? So we took her song that she had wrote when she was struggling with addiction, made that part the pre-chorus and took my song that I'd wrote when I was first in rehab and struggling with staying clean and made that the chorus. And then we actually took part of one of the other songs and put it into the chorus. Yeah. So it's like we wrote the verses together about the actual addiction and the serenity prayer is spoken throughout the bridge. And it's just, it's,

It's extremely...

visceral. I did just watching because I couldn't make it to the first part of the I can't talk today. I couldn't make it to the first part of the video shoot. Just watching it through the vids that Mimi was sending me. I was just like, oh my god, I'm so fucking glad I'm not there. I was like, I do not want to fucking cry today. All the girls are like, I was like surprised that it was touching people like that because the song is already very powerful. But then when they see it with people and then we're

Yeah. Yeah. No, I can't wait. I can't wait for everybody to hear the song and the visuals. Yeah. Not Today was a fun one. I am so excited for that one too. Yeah. And that's, and there's another completely different personality. Right. So Not Today is like, yep. Like that's when, that's when I'm in my like, what is it? Hypomania? Yeah. That's the best, isn't it?

When you're like, when you're really functional, but you're not fully manic. Yeah. And you're like, I'm just having a good time. Yeah. I'm cured. I'm not ill anymore. I think this is it. You know what I mean? Like at this time. Um, but yeah, that's, that's the not today. And, and it's really just like, do you take medication for your, no. Okay. Yeah. I tried. And the re she tried and I watched, oh,

It was bad. I was literally like, I'm going to watch what you do, but I'm telling you like everyone that's gone on medication has told me they feel like a zombie. And part of being crazy is part of who I am. Yeah. And I felt like, and I watched her the first week she was doing, she's like, dude, this is amazing. It's changing my life.

I was like, I feel normal. I was like two weeks later, I spun out into the worst depression I'd ever been in my life. I couldn't get off the couch for like six months. I've had so many doctors try to press blah. God, I cannot talk today. I've had so many doctors try to prescribe me shit. And I am the same way. I'm like, I'll fucking, I'll find a vitamin.

I'll snort vitamins. I'll shove them up my ass. I'll do whatever I have to do to fucking make myself better because I've never heard anybody ever say, God, that fucking antidepressant made me feel so good. Like I've never heard anybody say that. I've had maybe one person where I heard they really changed their life and then most, probably 90% of people I talked to were like,

Oh, yeah. It makes you feel like a zombie. You don't want to have sex. You gain weight. You do this. I'm like, that doesn't sound good at all. I think that it can make people fit better into this world. And I think people that are labeled with mental illness are here to change the world. They see a little bit differently. And it makes you a little less emotional, a little more able to function.

And there's nothing wrong with that by all means. You know what I mean? If it's something that helps, I fully agree. I support whatever helps anybody. Absolutely. For me, not a mention. Yeah, totally. What's up, guys? I just want to take a minute to let you know who is sponsoring this podcast. It's Adam and Eve. They have been in business for the past 45 years and they all...

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Is it okay to call it pop? It is pop. It's poppy. Somebody DM'd us. They're like, this is like Eminem's If You Don't Like My Shit, You Can Suck My Dick. And I was like, but less vulgar. But that was a great compliment. Thank you. I feel like I can see Not Today being played on the radio and on MTV videos and stuff like that. It's just so...

I came home from the video shoot and Bugs' best friend was sitting at the dinner table. Doesn't even know you guys from a hole in the wall was singing the hook. Really? I was like, yes. I was like just from an Instagram story. So, you know, in my head, I'm like, ching, ching, ching, ching, ching.

I don't see how anyone could not like that song. Yeah, no, I love it. It's one of those things that I'm not even a pop, poppy type person, but I'm like, dude, this song, I love this thing. I put it on, I'm in a good mood. I feel like pop is like kind of putting it in a box because it's like, it is poppy, but it's also like,

kind of gangster too at the same time like it's got a little bit of edge to it you know right yeah um and then what was the other one oh bury yourself how fun was that one that's that that's my my wrath that's the side of me that's uh that's the crazy bitch side it's like motherfucker didn't even cheat on you but you're like you're just waiting

Just wait. You're pretty much telling him just do it. Yeah, you're like, do it. I dare you. I dare you. We had a lot of fun with that one because in the video, Kaylee makes a guy dig his own grave pretty much. That was your idea, by the way. So don't look at me. No, I mean, we don't. Ooh, baby.

She's like, you should have a guy dig his own grave. Listen, I'm just here to listen to the music and tell you guys what I see whenever I hear this. You should see the text read. She's like, there's rose petals falling from the sky. We're like, yeah, bitch, keep talking. It looks so pretty. And honestly, the video is

so much like and we didn't realize it until that day it's so much like American Horror Story Coven yeah and I never have seen literally this is like such a vibe and like that's the thing is so many people love that it was so funny somebody messaged me and said oh my god she looks so pretty with clothes on

I was like, is that really how our world is? Like it's, it's, it's insane. Yeah. Um, it's hard to look at someone's face when they're completely naked. Yeah. I get it. Like you're like, Whoa, I didn't even, well, you got to look twice. You're like, is that, that is her, you know, like I can't tell because their camel toe is not showing. Yeah. Um, it's a beautiful camel toe by the way. It is. It's very nice. Pleasure being up close and personal in there. So go check out my only fans. Yeah. Um, there was another song that you wrote. Um,

Kind of a sensitive subject, but it was the one about your dad. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's this one called? We don't really have a full name for it yet because what was it? On the other side. The other side. Jelly's featured on this one also. Jelly's featured on a couple, right? Jelly's on that one. He's on Bang Bang. And then we're trying to write one called Paper Tiger. There's a poem I wrote called Paper Tiger. I love the words to that one. And he really liked. He's real poetic like me too. So he's like, oh, I love that. I love that term.

you know what I mean? Like basically the woman that's only soft for you kind of thing. Like she's hard to the world, but like you, she shows you were soft underbelly because she trusts you. Yeah. I mean, absolutely. So we haven't really gotten to that one fully yet, but yeah, the, the, the one about our dads, cause he lost his dad too. Yes. That one. Yeah, that was rough. That was crazy. Wow. We were on the, she actually wrote the whole verse of that song. Cause I couldn't, I was literally like, what did he call you when you were little?

were little and I was like I don't remember I was I was like trying not to deal with it you know what I mean like and then like then I had to then I had to recite it so it was like but I mean so it was rough and then of course jelly like I started bawling in the booth with you guys everyone outside yeah and then like I'm like I can't do this and jelly comes in with like a tissue and he's like please keep going I was like

He's like, I don't want to seem like a dick or anything. That goes into that my husband is not empathic at all. He was like, he just saw a little Scrooge McDuck eyes. Yeah. But he's like, she's crying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, please just keep doing it. Just keep the cameras rolling, whatever you do. I thought it was really beautiful to see though because not a lot of people get to see the artist's

making the album they only get to see what's done you know so i think like the next album you guys shoot we should definitely have cameras rolling so that they can catch a behind the scenes of you guys because not everybody gets to go into that artistic process and they don't know the blood sweat and tears that is literally poured into every fucking song yeah that song

would go in the booth and live in the I'm not laughing that is so rude she would I'm just it's like you know thinking about it so yeah so she would go into the booth and literally like the track would be going and it

it would just be completely silent and you would just hear her start sniffling, you know? And I, that shit broke my heart. I was like, Oh my God. And like, I would run in there and like hug her and stuff like that. But I was like, don't touch me when I like this. That was exactly what I was getting to. Cause you're so much like me. Like, it's like when, when we're crying, we just want to be left alone. It's like, yeah, exactly. I can't stop. I don't cry often. So when I do, it's like real blood. I don't want to feel. Yeah. So, you know, seeing that, I feel like everybody needs to see that and needs to know that because all they are,

like I said, people see us on the internet and they just see pretty girls. They think that we don't have any fucking emotions. And there are a lot of girls on the internet who don't, you know, like. To be fair, typically I don't, but that's the thing. And you're right. You're right. But yeah, like there's a few things that are sensitive for

me literally like three subjects right you know what i mean and those subjects like i can't talk and extend about i can talk for a minute and then i'm like all right you know what i mean like you lost your dad can you talk about who your dad was a little bit so people can um he played uh bane in the original batman and robin uh he was so he was like an actor but he was also a wrestler

and he was also a career criminal. He was a jack of all trades. Yeah. So, I mean, that's the thing. He's just like me. He was one of those people that's like, I'm going to do that now. And people are like, you can't do that. You've been in prison a bunch of times. You're doing this. You're a criminal. No, I'm going to do that now. He was a bull rider also, but when he was a smaller man before he was big. When he wanted to do something, he just did it. I love that mentality. And people would always be like,

Oh, that's a pipe dream. You can't do that. But he just, before you know it, we're like, you know, we're going out to California. He's like, I'm going to be an actor. And they're like, yeah, good luck. Everyone's an actor in California. He went out there and sure enough, we're on red carpet within a few years. You know, he's bulletproof. He was with Damon Wayans and Adam Sandler, Bane, Batman and Robin. Like it was, you know what I mean? Like he just, he just didn't give a fuck. And then you lost him. How old were you? I was turning 12. Yeah. Yeah.

So that's a deep wound that you carry with you every day too. Yeah, I mean, but at the same time, it's kind of one of those things where like,

If it didn't happen that way, I don't know. You know what I mean? Like, what would it be like? You know, I probably wouldn't be so rad. Like I'm strong. You know what I mean? Not narcissism at all. No, I'm just kidding. That's my dealing with it. Coping mechanism. Coping mechanism there. I totally get it. I just want people to understand, you know, why you were hurting so bad, why you were in the booth because, you know, they didn't. Oh, yeah. I mean.

Being young and just... And just having to revisit it and just pain that you haven't opened up or tapped into. I mean, I don't typically deal with pain. Right. That's the part of where, you know, like I say, narcissism. I'm not like that... No, I know. ...like, mean narcissist who, like, is, like, trying to hurt... I'm actually trying to get better. So, like, I just... They...

when they say that about me it's more about like that's I cope with things by like my insecurities my issues by joking and walling it off not not being and I have a problem with empathy yeah but it's you know it's not like oh I don't care about I actually when I can relate to something right oh my god like if I see someone going through some shit I went through yeah all of a sudden it's like I'm looking at me right but if I see you going through some shit I've never seen I'm like

I don't know what the fuck that feels like. You know what I mean? So like the empathy thing is hard for me, but my therapist said, you know, empathy is a learned behavior. Where did you learn it? Right. Well, my dad killed people and my mom was a 19 year old stripper at the time. Where do you learn empathy? You know what I mean? Like, where do you learn to like care for others? Same. My dad was a musician. My mom was a stripper. So it's like, it's weird. Nobody taught me empathy and I have all of it. But this is the thing. Kata has a very, she's very sensitive. Right. She's very feeling, but empathy is,

You do lack empathy when you're feeling... Call me out. When she feels... When she's triggered, just like it's a borderline trait, when you're triggered, your pain overshadows anything that anyone else is going through. Then I'm borderline because once I get pissed or I get triggered... Yeah, I think that's normal. I don't know if that's... Just typically people don't get triggered to that extent. Right.

like but that's that's the thing everybody I and the reality is the only thing the way things get better to me is like when when people kind of look at it and you know that's one thing that we're both good at is looking at yeah you know looking at your shit absolutely yeah it's terrible you're like I'm gonna work again

Oh, dude. Moving to Nashville, I literally had to do that with myself because in Vegas, you can, there's an escape. You literally go to a bar to have dinner every night. You drink so you don't have to fucking, you know, think about your problems. I moved out here, fucking got sober and literally had to fucking re-meet myself and figure things out. And there's levels. There's levels.

there's levels to success, right? So when you enter into a new level in your life, like you have to become the person that deserves that life. And what, what parts of you do you have to leave behind in order to, to resonate on that vibration? Right. Right. And so,

Yeah. It's hard though. It's hard to bring yourself into that space, but if you can be empowered by that and know that if you can change you, then you can change the outcome. Yeah. Then you're in control. You know what I mean? It really is up to you. Absolutely. Is that what you guys think the message of your album, the album that's dropping is, is pretty much like everything that we've touched base on here today. Yeah. I mean,

I think it's the phoenix rising. Yeah, exactly. Like we are the ashes. And embracing like every part of you. Yeah, every part of you. There's also going to be like a sexy song. You know what I mean? Which one is it? There's a lot of sexuality involved. Which one is it? Taste. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've recorded it. It's done. We just haven't done a video for it, which we need to make it up. Highly inappropriate. It's wonderful. We even got some vibes from like the WAP song when it came out. There was like some little thing

I'd have to hear it again so that we can start brainstorming on that because you guys are coming back in November, right? We've got to shoot Bang Bang and then the one, which one? The other one with Jay? The dad one. The other side one. Probably Taste. I mean, I don't know. He loves that song. Yeah, no, I know he does. Which was shocking. Yeah.

No, Jay has. He was like, this is the first time that I was saying, you want to take, take, take. And he goes, no, this is a sex song. You want to taste. And I go, we both looked at him and I was like, this motherfucker. No, but it's real. It makes sense. Because if I would have heard take, I would have probably thought the same thing too. And I think it's just perfect. Yeah. Well, I'm really excited to go on this adventure with you guys. And what do you guys, where do you guys see yourself a year from now?

Loving you. 2021. What is that going to bring us from you guys? Hopefully... What do you want to manifest? Let's manifest it right now. We're manifesting... Let's go on tour. Yes. I'm serious. I don't like being in one place too long. Changing lives. And you will. You guys will. You guys are going to reach a whole different audience with this. Definitely just like... I would be down with just like a...

nice just following of people that just fuck with me heavy like i don't need to be superstar yeah what i mean like i i'm cool in fact i'm kind of afraid of that yeah um i just want like just loyal you'll have that you'll get that your music speaks for itself so once people hear this i didn't even want to be an artist yeah um because yeah i mean but it seemed to be the only way that i could get it heard was to you know you're like a little baby genius in the studio yeah like you

The way you come up with melodies and your words and stuff like that, like that's a real talent, dude. Like no, I don't take any credit for it. The only credit that I take for it is the, is the willingness to write it down. I honestly don't. I think I'm just an open channel to something bigger. Honestly, like, I don't think it's me.

Yeah. You know, Beyonce said that actually. She said that when she gets in the studio that something else takes over her. It'll come fully written at times. So I don't think my brain's that cool. You know, it was on a lot of drugs at one point. So I mean, a little fried, but yeah, sometimes it'll just, the whole thing will show up. Sometimes it comes in pieces. Sometimes it all shows up at once. But that kind of lets me know that it's, there's definitely something higher involved. It's not. I love it. Yeah. What else? Yeah.

That's what I want to do. I think it would be great. Me, Riley Rabbit and I are talking about putting together this like whole like girl tour type thing, podcast, music and stuff like that. I think it would be fun for all of us to hit the road for like, you know, just like five or six dates a month. I think would be so fun. Just go travel like New York, Cali, where you guys are from. Fucking we'll hit Vegas. Just do like major cities and just go in and sell tickets and just start building our brands, you know? Yeah. I think it would be fun. I

I'm down for whatever the world brings. Jay's going to be like, you're not fucking going on tour. Every time I tell him I want to go on tour, he's like, you're not going on tour. You're going on tour with me, bitch. I'm like, I want to tour too. Are you guys going to make more albums, more music? Yes. Yes. Just constant content. I mean, we're constantly going. I think we got a little knocked off our feet during the COVID thing. Yeah. Because we're just kind of like, well, yeah, what do we do? You know what I mean? But then we came back to it when...

I mean, it kind of like... It came back to us. Yeah, it came back to us. I guess that's kind of how it happened. I mean, you know, this whole... This mission is... It's got... Has a plan for us. Yeah. It's just wherever the... Wherever the wind will take us. Yeah. Well, why don't you shout out where everybody can find you at on your socials? I am...

viking.barbie if you don't know already and uh yeah i have uh my my personal kaylee underscore swenson and i also have a youtube viking barbie music yay and you want to shout out your nudies oh yeah and um if you ever want to see her naked

She's a part-time hooker like us. Like we're all part-time hookers over here. Yeah. I have sex with so many different guys and they're all the same penis somehow. Dude, I love it. I love it. But yeah. And it's nudies. Yeah. Nudies are vikingbarbie.com.

Yeah, thankyoubarbie.com. Yay. And then what about you, Kata? Shout them out, baby. Oh, my Insta-quants is I am K-E-T-A-M-U-S-I-K. So it's Kata Music with a K at the end. And then my YouTube is Kata, K-E-T-A-L-O-R-E-N. Yay. I love you guys so much. I have OnlyFans too, so. Yeah, shout it out. OnlyFans. Forward slash. OnlyFans. OnlyFans.

OnlyFans. I'll be on that OnlyFans. OnlyFans. Find me on my OnlyFans. I am paid of music. Yeah. Say it again because I think I just overshadowed you. It's the same as my Instagram, but on OnlyFans. Okay, gotcha. She's got a cute butthole and little pink nipples. She has really pretty. I love her coloring. Her coloring is so pretty. Like it's just what I got going. It's a really pretty like soft pink. Just so pretty. Like bitch. Like go away. It's because I'm extremely white. I am too, but I still got a little cinnamon roll.

Listen, I'm Brazilian, so I gotta battle the darkness. I love you guys so much. I'm so excited to go on this adventure with you guys, and I can't wait to see where you guys are gonna go with this and just remember us little people whenever you guys make it really big, okay? You're coming with. I love you guys so much. Thank you for being here. Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I will see you guys next week. Bye. Bye.

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