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483. Woodstock for the Adventurous and Responsible | Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying

2024/9/23
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Jordan Peterson: 本次讨论主要围绕Bret Weinstein策划的"拯救共和国"集会在华盛顿特区举行,旨在团结各方力量,应对国家挑战;同时探讨了进化生物学最新发现与宗教观点的融合,以及Peterson学院的线上教育模式。Peterson认为,这场集会与特朗普周围正在形成的另类媒体、娱乐和政治体系有关,并邀请听众参加。 Bret Weinstein: Peterson学院上线三周,已有31000名学生,学院注重营造积极的社交媒体环境,并通过设置门槛筛选用户,维护良好的学术讨论氛围。学院已开设20门课程,还有30门课程正在筹备中。Weinstein还谈到防止腐败的关键在于尽早消除腐败行为者的利益,避免其通过不断适应系统而变得更加强大。 Heather Heying: Heying赞同Peterson学院的社交媒体策略,并介绍了学院的"进化推理"课程,鼓励学生进行演绎推理。她认为,教育的成功在于其动态性和不可复制性,这与传统教科书的局限性形成对比。Heying还谈到,大规模在线教育难以复制面对面教学中师生之间建立的个人联系和信任关系。 Bret Weinstein: Weinstein认为,免费的社交媒体网络可能天生就存在缺陷,难以阻止恶意行为的泛滥。他提出,为了防止社交媒体平台被恶意操纵,需要建立一种机制来惩罚不真实的行为,例如抄袭和使用人工智能生成内容。他还谈到,Peterson学院目前采取的策略是,对于违反规则的用户,直接退款,未来将建立更完善的规则执行机制。 Heather Heying: Heying认为,在试图团结民众的过程中,不应过多地使用宗教语言,以免疏远那些非宗教人士。她还谈到,大规模在线教育难以复制面对面教学中师生之间建立的个人联系和信任关系。 Jordan Peterson: Peterson认为,构建一个有效的私密社交平台的关键在于制定清晰简单的规则,并赋予管理者对违规行为进行裁决的权力。他还谈到,在教育环境中,规则的制定和执行应被视为一种精巧的游戏,而不是审查制度。为了应对恶意行为的演变,需要建立一个能够快速适应并改进的规则体系。Peterson还提出,一种改进规则体系的方法是将参与者分成不同的组,让各组互相监督和管理。

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Jordan Peterson congratulates Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying on their popular Peterson Academy lecture. They discuss the platform's unique approach to fostering civilized discourse within its social media network, highlighting the challenges of maintaining a productive online learning environment.
  • Peterson Academy boasts 31,000 students and over 50 courses in development.
  • The platform implements a paid membership model to filter out bots and trolls.
  • Active monitoring and a transparent honor code are employed to encourage positive interactions.

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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with Dr. Bret Weinstein and Dr. Heather Heying to discuss the state of our country, the evolution of corruption, and the unified vision of the future we can all rally behind.

 

Dr. Weinstein is an evolutionary biologist who specializes in adaptive trade-offs. His current focus is on the interaction between genetic and cultural evolution. He has worked for 14 years as a professor at The Evergreen State College, testified to the U.S. Congress, and been a visiting fellow at Princeton University. He hosts the DarkHorse Podcast and is a New York Times best-selling author. Bret has been a frequent guest on today's most notable podcasts, such as the JRE Experience, and has been interviewed by some of the most influential and well-known hosts in the industry.

 

Dr. Heying is an evolutionary biologist, interested in everything from brains to bugs, culture to consciousness. She has conducted research on the evolution of social systems and sexual selection, from frogs to humans. She received her PhD in Biology from the University of Michigan, where she earned the university’s top honor for her dissertation, and has a B.A. in Anthropology from the University of California at Santa Cruz. Most recently, she was a Visiting Fellow at Princeton University.

 

This episode was filmed on September 16th, 2024

 

 

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For Brett Weinstein and Heather Heying:

 

Rescue the Republic jointheresistance.org

 

DarkHorse podcast www.darkhorsepodcast.org

 

Bret’s website www.bretweinstein.net

 

Bret on X https://x.com/BretWeinstein

 

Heather’s website www.heatherheying.com

 

Natural Selections Substack naturalselections.substack.com