S2 EP7. How To Have Big Faith ft. Ashley Jones
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Hi, everybody. Welcome to another episode of Christ with Coffee on Ice. I have to say, this is a really exciting episode because not only is this episode, I don't even know what camera to look at. This is the first time I've filmed with so many cameras because we have a guest!

Hi, you guys. We have a friend here. We have Ashley Jones with us. And this is also the first time that I've been recording like in my home in Nashville. So every other episode that you guys have been listening to was pre-filmed while I was still living in LA. So this is just really fun. Like I'm finally using this space. I had such a vision for this room where we're filming. And so I'm excited that we're bringing it to life. And I get to share it with such a special friend. And I'm so excited that we're bringing it to life.

So Ashley, do you want to introduce yourself? Yeah. Hi. First of all, I'm so excited. You guys, the amount of passion and work that she puts into this is truly like you'll never know and you'll never see it. But I want to give a little shout out because she genuinely cares so much and has put so much into this. So I'm blessed to be here. I'm so thankful to be here. I'm excited. I am too, man. God's going to do such cool

thing. This is like, we've been talking about this for days. We're like, we just have this feeling, obviously, like God is just going to blow this episode out of the water. So this is where our mind is going right now in current time is we are like, this might have to be a two part thing. Yeah. Cause we're like, we have a couple things that we want to talk about and we're like, all right, we're going to keep this for part one. And then part two, we know that we're going to talk forever and ever because Holy spirit don't stop. And we love that about the Holy spirit. But yeah. So this might be like a two episode thing, but I'm so

I'm so excited because it's just going to be good. I feel like God is going to do something low-key like groundbreaking. There's going to be some things said on this episode that people probably won't love to hear. For sure won't love to hear. Hey, but that's okay.

that's okay because that's what God needs to do I so we just got back from passion Ashley and I went separately but it was just like a really great coincidence that we were both going and I just felt personally like with being at passion first off it was my first time and it was incredible if you've ever considered going to passion you need to go you need to go you need to go if you are in your teenage years or early to mid-20s I mean y'all know I'm sitting here as a full 28 year old woman and I went technically the cutoff is 25 but if you're sitting here as a 26 year old

because I heard people be like oh well like I met this one guy yeah I thought that you can go yeah and I'm like you can I emailed I literally emailed passion and I said I bought a ticket and I'm old can I come and their response was so sweet they were like listen if you feel like you're in that season of your life and you can relate you can go and I said because I was ready I literally was ready to put in an application for door holder because I was like if I'm not a

I literally was like, I'll volunteer. Like I swear I really did. Um, but yeah, so they just go, just go amazing. It was so good. But something that I felt over and over again while I was sitting there at passion and just looking around at all the young people, like that's the thing y'all is you think that there aren't believers in this generation. Oh my gosh.

There was nothing more inspiring than seeing so many young people. I mean, literally like 12 year olds who are there and they just love Jesus. And I'm like, worshiping y'all are doing it right. Because I didn't even do it until a year ago. And I wish I did it at 12, you know, and it was so beautiful. But the thing that I kept hearing over and over again is like, this is the year, like something is happening in this generation that,

I'm gonna say it. I really feel like there's like a revolution happening in the world for Jesus and this generation. Like with social media and just how many advantages that we have in this day and age. Like

something's gonna happen a big movement it's happening and i just can't wait to be a part of it and i feel like god is using us specifically to help this movement and i'm all in i'm like jesus let's go as big and as far as you want me to go let's go and so it was such a pump up like it was such inspiration and i feel like every minute that we've spent being out of passion oh my gosh we've still been going like i thought i was gonna home pouring like

Yeah, we thought we were going to come home and rest. And we have. We have been. But in the Lord, like, he has been so strategic and so specific. It's like every single thing that we do, God's like, you want to learn something? Yeah.

so good wait should we talk should we talk about what we did last night yeah let's talk about it okay it was really good yeah um because we'll get into Ashley too because I really want y'all to hear about Ashley like this is a huge reason why I had her I wanted her on the podcast and we can even talk about how we met like how do we even know each other but um her testimony her story is incredible and y'all just need to hear it because it's like insane and it's so funny because I said like one of the first things that I said to Ashley you know when I saw her testimony was I was like dude your testimony is unique like it's dumb like it's

crazy it's mind-blowing and Ashley's like like oh okay really are you sure like it's just funny because it just shows you like how normalized our lives are to ourselves because I could say the same thing about my testimony I'm like whatever and you did and I did I was like Ali my testimony is boring it's literally like okay yeah she grew up in a Christian household and she didn't really know Jesus and then she found him and then the end

And it's like, it's not. That's not even your story. Yeah, it is. But then like. But it's like, why am I diluting it? Like, why am I like not giving the glory? The glory. Please, that's an insult to the Lord. Honestly, that's a sin. Bye. Honestly, that's a sin. What am I doing talking about God? He was the author of it. What am I doing saying it's not that big of a deal? Ow. Okay. I was checked.

so anyway this is what we're saying yeah every second dude god's like you want to learn he says you want to learn right now actually live on the podcast good so anyway yeah i told her i was like your testimony is just insane and so uh yeah i think that's a lesson too that like a lot of what our life might feel normalized because we're living it day to day but that doesn't mean it can't impact somebody in a way that absolutely blows their mind totally so can't wait for y'all to hear that um

But yesterday, so we actually got this inspiration from a TikTok. I don't know who these girls are, but they are the sweetest, kindest cutie pies. But they were running around whatever city they lived in and they were leaving flowers on people's doors on their cars with a Bible verse tied to it. And so I showed it to Ashley and I didn't know who I was going to be doing this with. I knew I wanted to do it with a friend and I didn't know like how the circumstances were going to come together, you know, how to do it.

But I showed it to Ashley and I said, we got to do this. And she was like, oh my gosh, let's do it. So we do that. We go to Trader Joe's.

Spend about 30 minutes deciding on what flowers we want. My fault. And if you guys have a Trader Joe's near you. Oh, yeah. This was Ashley's first. You're not supposed to covet, right? It's a Ten Commandment. And I'm like, Allie, do I move? Because I don't have this near me. Yeah. The first time I had gone to Trader Joe's. And like, if you're looking at Ashley, like she's like, you'd look at her and you'd be like, oh, she definitely shops at Trader Joe's. Like you are Trader Joe's. Like you would fit right in. And I was just like, oh, my God.

You're like, this is my home. This is it. Trader Joe's is so good. It's good. We spent too much time looking at flowers. We did. Allie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, the thing that I wasn't thinking about is I was picking up the flowers that weren't bloomed yet. And I'm thinking, oh, these will be so pretty when they bloom. How are they going to bloom if they're tied to someone's car? They're not plugged into water, I said. And they're going to be like, oh. Yeah. Nice gesture. But it's giving. It's just a bud. It's not a flower.

Anyway, but that could be poetic too. Like just, you know, they bring it home and then it blooms. I don't know. Whatever. So anyway. Yeah. We get flowers. And the coolest thing that happened is when we got back home, my posture, I don't know what your, I won't speak for both of us, but at least my posture going into it was like way too surface level. I was like, I was like going into it and I was like, you know what? I'm going to write like a little John 316, like God gave his son and you're loved and keep going. Love you. Which is great. Like we're not. Yeah.

We're not saying that those types of, you know, words of encouragement aren't impactful to people. But it was cool because in the beginning of us writing these, it was kind of like that where we were just covering all the bases, you know? It was almost like we didn't have full trust that...

That God could be specific like that, right? As specific as he is. We were like, no, we better make sure this covers all bases. Like, you're loved. Like, yeah. You know? Gosh, like, what would happen if somebody got this and it, like, wasn't accurate in their life? And they're actually going through. And it's doubt, right? Right. Seeds of doubt. It's doubt. But why do we doubt him? Right. Like, he literally can make anything good. Yeah. So...

It was wild because the more we started writing these verses, the more specific they were. It was like I would find we were flipping through our Bibles. I was even looking up some verses online, too. And I'd read a verse and it would be about like, God is your firm foundation. Like, you know, there's I don't know what it was, but it was like there's mud even in the mud and the turmoil and stuff like he he pulled me out and he he was Jesus was my firm foundation. Right.

And it would be something like that. But then I would hear a word from God that was like, you need to stop carrying all the weight of responsibility and like everything on yourself. You know, it got really specific. And I think that we even both like at the beginning wrote like one kind of generic verse that

and we were like oh but then god and then i was like wait i think i want to write like a little just a little personal something and then it just like exploded yeah like and then you were saying we're so specific things that i was saying was so specific and we were both just like kind of shook like we were like i was like are we making honestly i was doubting that i was just like making it up yeah am i just like reaching right now but it really was god because i was getting specific words like

that dream that you have that business that you want to start yeah and the people around you like a specific word where it was like this person was trying I don't know who this person is but they are trying to start a business or they have this dream where they want to branch off and do their own thing and like legit be a boss like ceo moment but everyone in their life is discouraging or they're just not taking it seriously and they're like haha yeah okay like maybe one

they just don't believe God can do it yeah they don't believe that this person can do it and so the word that I felt was you need to lean on God and listen to his voice only don't listen to the people around you like how specific is that and also how scary is that to think like and now we're just gonna leave it on a random person's car and hope for the best and they're like it either could be holy moly

There is no way that any person on earth would have known to put this on my car. I haven't even spoken this out loud, right? Right. Or it was God. Yeah. But that's scary because it's like either it could be right or it could be a person that's never thought to start a business in their life. And then they're like, what is this? You know? But that's when we really had to have faith. But that's the enemy man, the enemy gator.

The enemy wants us to doubt. I remember we were talking and we were like, oh my gosh, what if this goes to a non-believer? Or what if this goes to somebody that doesn't want a business or whatever? And then they're like, see, God's not real. Right. Like if he was, like this wouldn't ever come to me. Right. Like all this Christian stuff is baloney because look at them trying. Oh, they're cute. Look at them trying. They're putting a note on my car encouraging me to love God. I don't want anything to do with the business. Yeah. But that's not having faith in our God. No faith. And the thing that was wild that kept happening, y'all, we learned so many lessons just in this.

We thought we were going into this just to bless people. Just to bless people. That was only the half of it. But like... It wasn't even real. I mean, it was. But it was almost like it strengthened our faith. And God was teaching us so many things in that. When I thought we were just going into it just truly serving other people and blessing them and like doing God's work, which is so true. That is what happened. But bro, God...

He like, I said this last night, I think I said, he makes sure he checks off multiple boxes in a single blessing. It's like he makes sure that there's things like happening all around it all at once. That's benefiting everybody involved. Everyone involved. There's not one single task or thing that he's called me to do that didn't also bless me. Yeah.

yeah which is crazy that he like is that thoughtful and he's that strategic and he thinks about every little second and every little detail that he says not only is this going to bless the people and and then we were even thinking we're like who's to say that this isn't going to strengthen somebody else's faith in god that this person goes and tells right yeah they call their best friend and they're like dude remember how i just called you 20 minutes ago stressing out about this that and the next look what i just found

That strengthened my faith. If I heard you say that to me, I'd say 100%. Whoa. Yeah, that's wild. And you know, they will. You know, they will. They are telling people in their life. The evidence of God. Yeah. You do not keep it to yourself. You want to tell people. No way. Yeah. When you see called their mom, they called their best 100%. They posted it on their Instagram story that you cannot explain. You don't keep to yourself in that way. Most people. I won't speak for everybody, but most people. And it's just like, man, imagine the ripple effect that God knew was going to happen and used us like what?

It kind of blew our minds. We were talking about this too. Multiple times. We were like,

He wants to use us to do this for people, you know? Like, it was so humbling and beautiful. But, like, I mean, realistically, we won't know the eternal impact of it. We can only have faith and hope that he knows and we don't. But what did it do for us? Like, we got to see it immediately. Yeah. Like, 15, 20 times it was, like... We definitely had, like, a lot of confirmations, too, during it. Like, not only just between you and I were...

I'd be like, I'd like see a street that we went by. And then Ashley would be like, we needed to turn there. And I'd be like, it was just so cool that there were so many moments where why, but I would resist. Like, I'd be like, it was doubt doubt the whole time. Like,

And also, needless to say, I mean, we should share this part. We did this for three hours. Three hours. Excuse me. We didn't know what we were getting ourselves into. We also did. I didn't even know it was three hours. I mean, we looked at the clock and we were like, it's been two and a half hours. We can believe how much time had already gone by. It felt like 45 minutes. Yeah. Yeah. But it was cool because I think God really checked us in a lot of ways where maybe we went into it. 100%. Just being like, we're just going to drop these off and like go to a parking lot and be like, boo.

But the beauty in what he did was we were literally going into some of the most random... My parents won't love hearing this if they're listening. 100%. But there were some areas that we went into where... We wouldn't have chosen to go there. I wouldn't have gone down that road. We would not have chosen to go there. But...

The thing that was really great about it is I literally, not audibly, but if you've heard the Lord's voice, you know what I mean? I heard God be like, you have to go down here and I would never lead you down somewhere that you would get hurt. Yeah. Like I truly was, I felt his protection the whole time. And we felt safe the whole time. We felt safe the whole time. And I'm not saying we were getting like deep in the city, but like there were some

side streets that were kind of like, why are we going under this bridge? It looks like it's going to collapse. You know, parking lot, some weird. Yeah. Yeah. And it was a Saturday night, but I even believe that was intentional. Like, I think the timing and everything was like, so it was crazy. So as we're going into this, this was another thing that I think we thought we thought we were just going to leave it on cars. Yeah.

We thought we were just not just cars. Um, that was not the case. Not the case at all. One of the first places that we stopped, I felt God call. And actually it was really cool because there were a couple of times where I felt led to go places and you're like, I'm not feeling this, but I'm about it. Like you, you listen and vice versa. There are, there are cars that you were like, we need to stop.

And sometimes we both wouldn't feel it, but I would trust your feeling. And, you know, it was like, it was cool because God was talking to both of us directly, but then unison at times too. I would say he would, Kiku would confirm through both of us like 90% of the time. It was really rare that like you felt we needed to stop and I didn't or vice versa. But when we did, it was really cool because it was like, we would pull out and we decided like, we're not going to dig through the flowers and see which card we think should go on this card. We're just going to pick it up.

And so it was like in those times where like maybe we weren't in unison on the like confirmation of where we thought we were going to be. We would pick up a flower and it would be one that we wrote ourselves and like exactly what we would have thought like, yeah, this feels good. So it was God was confirming on like so many angles. He was and he didn't even have to do that much.

He didn't have to do it. He didn't even need to confirm it like that many times. He didn't have to. And he's like, I know they need it. So I'll just, I'll let them know. I know they'd be down. I know they're doubting. So let me just throw them a bone. And he did that like a million times on this trip. One of the first flowers that we dropped off though, I literally felt God say, it doesn't always have to be a car. And I'm like, what are you talking about? We go into this random parking lot and there was a motorcycle there. And I was like, oh, I just had this feeling. That was one of the times where we were both like, oh.

Stop. We said, stop. In the name of Jesus, we need to stop. So we stopped and it was like, again, we were just picking up the first flower that was on the pile. Like, because honestly, if we were shifting through, listen, if we were shifting through the flowers and we were going, well, this one sounds good, but this one sounds better. That's... Or like judging what people drive or like...

it would have come that's under our control and that's not giving god glory that's not giving him full control of it and honestly i think that's a word even when it comes to our life like let him do what he does best so we said okay lord it's the next flower then you know and i picked it up not only was it the same color it was these red flowers and it was wild because as i was writing this card it was my card

I felt that it was for a man yeah I was like this feels like it's for a man who has like pride that he can't let go of and he's never surrendered a single thing to the Lord and he's got like this ego that he feels like he's got to carry it all on his own and he's tired you know and so I pick it up and my jaw literally dropped because I was like oh my gosh like this was for a man we're stopping this is definitely a man's motorcycle yeah and it's the same color like the flower and the

It was wild. It was so cool. It was so cool. And we had the same thing happen, too. Before we even went out and when we were, like, preparing and putting the flowers together and writing the notes and all these things, Allie had written this really beautiful letter to this woman who...

was oh neglecting her morning time with the lord and she had spent her mornings elsewhere and it had been a long time since she had had been with him in the morning and like i felt jesus say i miss spending the mornings with you and she had wrote this like beautiful card and that was probably like 30 minutes before i was like kind of sorting flowers and punching holes and things whatever prep preparation and i looked at this flower and i was like oh my gosh this

this is for a mom. Like, I feel that this is for a mom. And I don't know why it got, I just felt like God was telling me this is for a mom. And so I was like, okay, like, and I looked at Allie and I said, so are we going to decide like what note card goes with what flower? And she was like, no, let's not do it. And I'm like, okay, let's see. And I pick up a card. Let's just, let's just make sure you're like, it was the first card. You're like, well,

We're like, well, let's just see. Let's just see what it says. If it matches. So we pick up the card and it's the flower that I said, I think this is for a mom. We pick up the card and it's the card she wrote like half an hour earlier about neglecting mornings with God. And we just started like weeping. We started literally crying. Literally. Both of us. This is a mother who's caught up in, like rightfully so, but like she's a mom. She could be a new mom. She could have toddlers where she has had no time in the mornings to spend time with Jesus. And it was something she used to do. But like,

That was what made it so scary is how specific they were. It was crazy. Like, there was no room for error is what I'm saying. No room for error. There was no room for error with not one card. And I think that God is so...

He gets so much, and we've talked about this, he gets so much glory when not only when we pray for specific things and he can give specific answers, but when we act on specific faith in hopes that he will answer that person in a specific way. And I think that he gets the most glory doing that. And so we definitely had seeds of doubt and we had to like come against that and literally rebuke that in the name of Jesus because it was constant. It never went away. And every time we would do it, we would regain this like sense of spiritual authority. We were like, let's do

yeah it was a roller coaster but he kept confirming yeah every time yeah it was we should tell them so quickly and then whatever this podcast episode is going to be long i've already accepted that um we should tell them about the girl yeah okay so oh god said it's not gonna be just cars and i'm like okay okay i'm motorcycles and i said before we left the house i said ally i think we're gonna talk to somebody and she's like i said for very selfish reasons i'm gonna i hope we don't because

want to bombard anybody yeah i don't want to like be that christian that's just approaching strangers but like bro that's what we're called to do we have to do it okay yeah and also like it's the fear of rejection bro it's the fear of man fear of man it's like i do not want i don't want to go up to somebody and be like hey i have a word i don't know why i'm here but god's calling me to talk to you and they look at me like i'm crazy and they say f you and walk away like i don't want to feel that or experience it's possible yeah and it's hurtful you know and so that is a

very real fear um that i had going into this if we were to speak to somebody i was like i don't want that to happen i just want to drop it on their car run away and no one sees me you know what i mean yeah that was our narrative too i hope nobody sees us i said maybe this is fine that we're doing it in the dark at night because the next thing we knew the sun was down and we were like we're doing this at night but maybe that's good too because it's giving like thieves in the night just maybe nobody will see us no one will see us and then i said ally i think we're gonna talk to somebody and she's like i said i hope not just i'm like for my own selfish and i think it's gonna be you

yeah, you said you think it's going to be me. And I was like, oh no, she's probably right. I was prepared, you know, like even if I had to, I was going to do it. But we're driving down the street and it's funny because Ashley and I had, and we didn't know this until we like talked after. We had seen this woman to the left of the car and she was walking her dog. And there was another woman that was crossing her. They were going by each other on the sidewalk with her dog and their dogs were kind of having a moment or whatever. Okay.

fast forward to about like 30 seconds later, we're now stopped at a red light and this girl has continued to walk. And now she's walking along our car. Not only that, but then she crosses the front of our car to go across the street. And when she's crossing in front of the car, I literally had such a feeling from the Lord that was like, we actually need to give a flower to her. And I denied. I said, no, I don't think that's a good idea. We're like,

the middle of nowhere. There's nowhere to park my car either because it's just random streets, y'all. And I was like, I don't think so. And then as soon as this woman walks across the front of my car, you let out a, oh. And I said, oh.

I said, Ashley, she's like, what is it? What is it? I had to ask you like four times. I was like, what, what? Cause I knew what it was. And I was like, if she confirms this out loud, then we have to do it. Like we have to, we can't both sit here, have a fee, having a feeling about a person and not do it. Right. And I knew cause I, I, she was, so she was walking. If you're watching the video, walking this way past me and my head was turned and Allie's driving. So she's to my left and I'm just hearing her go, what, what, what? And I look back and she's like,

I was like, what are you about to say right now? And you were like, I think we need to talk to her. Yeah. Yeah. And you were like, oh, great. There it is. You said,

it is great so that was confirmation right so then we drive across the street we skirt i mean i'm illegally parking i'm like not parking in a place that's like where are we and we stopped there and i put my hazards on and we legit stare at each other for like two two whole minutes being like what do we do this but at the time we didn't know what we were gonna say to her what the message was what god was gonna say to her we had no idea true and so we said okay

We just have to do it. So I pick up the next flower. Like we said, we're not choosing. We just picked up the next flower and it was the mom one. Oh,

And we're like, what? And she looked kind of young. And we start going, she can't be a mom. Like, what if she doesn't have kids? What if she's not even a Christian? Like, and we start doing that. We start doubting. And all the time, she's walking away with her dog. Even though, let me just say, even though God had already shown us how intentional each flower was up until then, like, there was not a doubt in our mind that each flower up until that moment was 100% meant for that person. Yeah.

But now we're doubting. And now we're like, because we actually have to look someone in the face. You know, she hates God. She doesn't even child. Like why? Or what if we're just prejudging? We have so much doubt. We have fear. We don't know a single thing about her. How could we sit there and say that she's never known God before? Yeah, right. The message was so specific. I'll remind y'all. It was Jesus. Mrs. Spending time with you in the morning. Yeah. And we're like, well, what if she's never spent a morning with Jesus before? How do we know that? We're going through all these scenarios and all the while she's walking away with her dog. And I mean, she's probably like,

over 150 yards away from us. Yeah. I mean, she's gone. We wasted time. We wasted so much time. And I looked at Allie and I said, shut up. Yeah. We're getting out of the car. We're getting out. And I said, you know what? I said, Lord, if she's still there, then we, this is her confirmation. We need to do it. Right. So then we go around the corner and it's like this whole field, like, you know, like it's all grass. It's land. And so we go off and at first I, we go around the corner and I was like, oh, she's gone. And you were like, oh,

She's there. But she was like on the other side of football field and a half away from us. I was determined. At that point, I was like, Lord, we're doing this. We were speed walking. Speed walking. And she was scared of us. And it probably looked a little weird. Yeah.

On a Saturday night at like probably 7.30 p.m. Pitch black dark and she's in the middle of the field and we're just like... It's giving like, are these women hired to sex traffic me right now? Like for real. Yeah. So yeah, we went up to her and she was very hesitant actually. Actually, we kind of had the same feedback where we were like, she's hurting. Like...

We felt an energy about her where she's dealing with something. We don't know what it is, but she's dealing with something. She just felt very like... Very afraid. Scared. Very afraid. Yeah. You could tell not of us because she was really like... She was willing to interact with us. It wasn't like she was like...

don't talk to me like what are you doing like she wasn't scared of us it was like the fear in her eyes and like on her face like life is really just yeah and we both felt that way and so we didn't feel like you know we even really needed to say much at all like we were just like hey you know what did you even say i don't remember you were like i think i was like you blacked out i did i literally went ah holy spirit activate i think i literally was just like

hi, I know this is so crazy, like really random. I know we don't know each other or something like that. And I was like, we were just driving and we saw you and we both had the same feeling that we had, we like, we were supposed to give this to you. And she was like, thank you. And like, kind of looked a little confused, but she was like, thank you.

Yeah. And then we were like, yeah, have a good night. And we walked away. Yeah. Like we just didn't. We both knew we were not called to like sit there and talk. It was not it. And that's okay. We got back to the car and I was looking out the window and I could see that she was about to pass a trash can. And I was like, okay, God, is she going to throw this away? Because she started reading it as we were sitting there with her. She started reading it while we were still there. And I said, don't do that.

you read that once we're already running away so so she had like at least a minute before we got back to the car to read this thing and i watched her pass the trash can and she kept it yeah she could have thrown it away and we know that she had read the whole thing by she 100 did so it must have meant something to her if she was a non-believer if she had never spent a minute of her life with god before or if she was so anti-god you know anti-jesus she would have been like

Yeah. That must have spoken to her. God wants, Jesus wants time with you again. So like that was a, and again, it's not like we got confirmation that we know she's a mother. It's not that we got, we don't even know if that's true. You know, we have faith that it is, but we do have faith. And I think that that just shows how much what we do is not for us. It's not for the, um,

what's the word I'm looking for? But just like that instant, like it's not for the response that we get from people. Yeah. And we will, sometimes we'll get that, which is beautiful. You know, who knows? Like she could have been like, oh my gosh, you guys have no idea. And like, just was like, and that would have been beautiful for us to hear, but that can't be the motive that we, you know, that we do. The Bible says you're either going to collect your reward here or in heaven. Yeah. You don't get both. And you literally said that,

You were like, hey, if we're collecting it in heaven, that's good by me. And that's truly good by me. It's true. It was just a really beautiful experience. So if anything, like I hope I got some, I posted about it on Instagram, which I was hesitant to do. Like I told you that. We definitely were like. At first I wasn't even going to film it at all.

I was like, I don't think that we need to do. I just wanted to talk about it. We don't need to show people. And truly, that was our hearts of like, we don't want anybody to know that this was us. We don't care. We don't. We want him to have the glory. We just want to do this for God. But the thing that we thought about was like, well, we saw this on TikTok and it really stirred our faith. So that's what I was like, wait a minute. Let's hold up. The only reason that we are doing this right now is because we saw Gurley's, those girls

And it had a ripple effect. And it had a rippling effect. So I said, screw that. Yeah. And honestly, that was me fearing man. I was fearing that people would say, oh my gosh, you guys only did this to like. To show people. To show people how great of a person you are. And it's like, first off, we only documented like five out of the 20 that we did. And also we didn't show that we went up to a woman. We didn't show.

any of it. No. We didn't show, and I think too, we showed just enough to like inspire other people because we hope that that is also another little check mark that God was doing with this. Just to stir you up, just to edify you, just to show you that like, and this is really why we've been talking about it. If we were brave enough to do it. Yeah, like just to show you, if you seek God and if you seek his specificity,

How you say specificity? Sure. Right. I heard Ashley Hetherington say that. Shout out Ashley. Her big words. She's so smart. I know. If you seek out that specific faith, God will answer in specific ways. And so we were like, how much did that encourage us and uplift us and edify us and just stir our spirits to do that for other people? Like, why would we not share what God has done through it for us?

but also for other people. So that was our heart. And it wasn't to boast. It wasn't to brag like not at all. And honestly, like, you know, you're going to get that type of feedback. I haven't even looked at the comment section of the girls, but maybe they even got comments like that where they were like, aren't you supposed to know? They did because there is something

in scripture where it says like do not let your left hand know what your right hand does yeah like don't go boasting about all the good things that you do and like obviously there is a lot of content out there that we see that's like that where it feels very like hey look at how great I am I like provided all these things for this homeless person and whatever but it's like I

I think there's a fine line, you know? Yeah, you gotta be really careful because if you're doing this for a prideful reason, if you're doing it to, again, like we were saying, like gain your reward here on earth, you will not receive it in heaven. No, and also that's temporary, bro. 100%. Fine, maybe you will receive it on earth, but that's expired. Like that has an expiration date. And it only brings pride. Yeah, and equally...

It doesn't bring what you think it will. Which God does not want. And I'll say this too to encourage anybody that even if you like, you know, if you want to share all the good deeds that you're doing in the name of Jesus and you're doing all these things online and you're showing all the good things that you're doing, God,

God knows the posture of your heart yeah and it does not matter if people think that you're doing it for clout or you're doing it for attention because if you know that your posture is coming from a place of truly wanting to just do good for God and make him proud and say God I pray I'm just worthy like I pray that I just make you proud in this moment and I did everything I was supposed to do he knows that and that's the only person that matters about like

what your intentions are. And I do believe that God knew exactly our intentions and what we did. And I don't care what people say. If they were like, oh, well, you're just doing this to show. I don't care. I also think too, that a good way to gauge this for anybody that's like maybe stirred up and wants to do something like this. If you wouldn't do it without it being seen by other people, then don't do it at all.

If you're not okay with stepping out in faith and if you're not okay with giving all the glory to him and never being seen for it, never recording it, never showing anybody, never telling anybody that you even did it, then you shouldn't do it at all. I love that. And that was what we were going to do. Yeah. We were like, I don't want to record this. We don't need to. Yeah. But if we went into it being like, oh my gosh, we should do this for a TikTok. Yeah. And then our cameras die and we're just PO'd and we're like, oh, now we can't post about it. And then like go home. Heart check. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And like, I'm not a perfect person. Like, I'm sure I've done that or felt that at one point or not in my life, you know? And so I just think that that's a really good point. If you didn't have cameras and if you weren't able to document this, would you be okay with that? Like, would you still do this? Also, do you do that? Like the little things in your everyday life without anybody knowing? Or is this like, do you feel like you have to do big kingdom things to be valued by God? Ooh, that's good too. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Because that's deep and that's real because we seek so much, so much, so often we seek our validation and our worthiness and our identity and doing big kingdom things for God. And I went through a season in my life where I was like, you know what? I'm going to do all these massive things. And I think it's

beautiful and have big dreams and God will give those to you. God likes massive stuff. I mean, we've talked a lot about this. We want to do big stuff for God. And that's not bad, but I'm saying if you are not capable of doing ministry in the mundane, you don't need to be doing it on the stage. And he'll teach you that. I want you to elaborate on that. Ministry in the mundane, like if somebody's listening and they go, I don't even know what that means. Okay. So like,

when I was first saved, probably like the first six months to a year that I was saved, I felt so strongly a calling on my walk in my life to speak. And I had done that for business for five, six years at that point. And I knew that I had a gift in that. And I felt that God was calling me to do that. And so I sought out the stage and the mics and the lights and the clout. And of course, I was doing it because I wanted God to get the

Glory, don't get me wrong. It wasn't just a total selfish ambition. But what I was so focused on was those big kingdom things, so much so that I was completely neglecting praying for somebody in the drive-thru and never telling a soul about it. Yeah.

Or just laying hands on a friend that is going through a hard time or grieving with a family member or whatever that was. I was missing those things because I felt like if I was focused so much on those things and not stepping truly into my calling, then I was neglecting the call of God on my life. But he reminded me. And actually, this was one of the most powerful things that I ever heard him say to me.

He reminded me that if I'm not willing to go down low, I'm not willing to be put up high and I don't deserve it. But he said to me, I want you off a stage and onto your knees. Wow.

He called me out of speaking for six months. Wow. And I was speaking a lot. I was doing conferences. I was doing podcasts. I was doing in-person stuff, online stuff. And I was speaking a lot. And for six months, I didn't speak. I didn't lead. I didn't lead anyone in prayer. He called me away from leadership in a whole for six months and had me doing ministry in the mundane for six months. And it changed my whole life. And I just remember being like, God,

God if this is all you have for me if this is my plan if this is my calling there's nothing better than this and I only want that yeah and then he called me back and then he said okay fine you're ready now but if you're not willing to humble if you can't go low you don't deserve to be up high yeah because when you're high it can't be you it's got to be him yeah

That's so good. It's good. It's true, man. Ministry in the mundane. I love that. That's like just simply blessing people like through your day and telling no one about it. Yeah. And telling no one about it. You know, I love that. So true. So anyway, so that's our story of what we did yesterday. And I really do hope and pray that it inspires somebody like I hope and pray there are so many people listening right now that are like calling their besties and being like, we got to do this because it was so cool. And I think the most powerful thing we did in this was praying specific.

prayer over this where we were like god if you need to speak directly to a single person do it yeah and let us just be like it was just such an honor to even be a part of it like and i also want to add to like to to kind of wrap this up in a bow i know that it's so easy to look at

like Allie especially and me and our pages and be like, oh my gosh, like they have such a gifting. Like I could never do that. This is good, Ash. I could never do that. Yeah. Or I don't have the confidence for that or I don't have the gifting. I don't have a prophetic gifting or I don't have whatever. But you know what? Like,

I think the beautiful thing about it is that God can give anybody gifts in a moment. He can give you any gift that he wants to in a moment. And so don't think like, I'm not qualified for this because I mean, what do they say? God doesn't call the qualified. He qualifies the called. Let's go. And so if he's going to use you, he's going to equip you. And it has nothing to do with if you're worthy because you're not. No, I'm not.

It has nothing to do with if you're qualified because you're not able. Yeah. It has nothing to do with you and everything to do with his goodness, faithfulness and capabilities and not your own. Yeah. And so ask for it. Yeah. Pray and say, God, I know this is going to somebody and I want you to speak to their heart. I don't know them, but you do. And you know, personally. So make it personal. Yeah. And he will. That's so good. And also it's like, why wouldn't he use you? If you're sitting there in the moment and you're like, God, I literally want to help you.

create and make a miracle happen right now why would he not answer that not want like if you're coming from a place if that's your heart yeah if you're like god i actually really just want you to use me right now like please yeah why would he not yeah and that was the posture that i was going i was like i just want him to use me and actually actually if i'm being honest like i don't even know if i've ever done anything like that in my life yeah i have never in my life

felt God talk to me specifically for a person ever ever and so there were times where we were writing those note cards and I said you're like am I yeah I said what is that I don't even I've never in my life but

life but you want to know why it happened because we prayed for it and we asked and he gave it to us like so I'm no more qualified than the next person because I didn't even know I was capable of like like that's so good even him just stopping me at that motorcycle I said how is this happening right now but like what faith did it take for you to pray and be like well I've never experienced this before but God I believe

can do it that's faith i believe you can do it that's big faith yeah and he did so all he needs is faith yeah he needs faith and he needs willingness like a pure heart of just i want to do this for you god that's really he'll do it like and honestly i love that you brought that up because there were some comments on my tiktok where they were like i like i only hope and pray to have faith like this and i'm like bro i got it in 20 minutes i mean that's all you can do is hope and pray

And then you did it within minutes. Literally. I've never done anything like that in my life. Yeah. So it just shows you like, it really, I think we complicate it. I think we think that it's like, oh, well, I got to put in at least 20 hours with the Lord for him. He will give it to you immediately as long as your heart is in the posture of like, I want to do this for you, God. Just please let me be a part of it. So I think that if you are,

so set on God delivering something to you in the moment that you ask for it and you're not okay if it's his will that he doesn't. Yeah. That's also a problem. You have to accept that even if it doesn't happen, you still trust that it's for the best in that situation for you, for the whatever. Like if you're praying for a specific like word or gift or moment or whatever and he's not answering it. Yeah.

Don't think he doesn't care. Because I've experienced that. I've prayed for a spiritual gift for years and years and years and didn't get it until a couple months ago. Yeah. And it's because he knew that you weren't ready for that yet, you know? 100%. So I think if you're in that moment and you're praying for something and you don't feel like he's answering your prayer in that way where you're like, God, I want to be able to give people like prophetic words. Like I want you to like...

speak through me to people about whatever it is that they're going through in their life and he doesn't deliver that, it's for... You got to just trust him no matter what. Yeah. You have to also be prepared for all outcomes. Like even if it doesn't work, that's okay. Like there's got to be a reason for it. He knows best. But in the Bible, it says in 1 Corinthians 12 and 14, Paul talks a lot about the giftings and he talks about how to...

earnestly seek the gifts, right? So earnestly, like when you think about that, earnestly, that doesn't mean pray for it once and if you don't get it, never think about it again. That is not earnest. Earnestly seek the gifts. Like God wants to give you these gifts, but the truth is that he may already have given you one. And we were actually at church this morning and they were talking about this. If you're not stewarding the gift that he's already given you and you think it's not good enough, he's not going to give you a new one.

Whoa. He's going to wait until you steward the one you have. Yeah. He's like, I just got to let her figure this out because the minute she figures it out and she starts using the talent that I gave her, then that's when I know that she's ready. But if you're sitting there and you're like, sorry, God, this gift isn't good enough. I need a new one. Okay. Humble.

Humble ourselves, please, because God literally doesn't make a mistake. He's perfect. And he's giving you that gift for a literal reason. And he knows best because he literally created the stars in the universe. So I don't think he messed up with your gift. I don't think he did. And so and honestly, I felt that speak to me like regarding like my singing. Like I was like, it's so good. I'm called out. We talked about that. It's not that I think God's given me like this gift as a mistake, but I definitely have been doing him a disservice by not using it as much as I should. I should be.

yeah so resolution for this year is y'all are going to be hearing a lot more of my singing i don't know where on a stage online i don't know but yeah y'all are going to be hearing my singing this year because yeah it's like it's it's also like loki going against i don't want to keep throwing around the word sin but like

It's giving sin, like to not use the gift that he gave me and not take it seriously. Like I'm just kind of using it in my shower. The Bible literally tells you that the gifts, everything that's good is from above. It's a gift to you and you are supposed to steward it. Yeah. And if you don't steward it, you are out of the will of God. Right.

So I'm not doing that anymore. So what you said is giving truth. It's giving truth. All right. Well, that was a whole tangent that I was not expecting. But you know what? We prayed for that. We literally said, God, we don't know what you're doing, but just do it. So...

Anyway, hopefully that was interesting, but I think there are some good lessons in that. And this is where we're going to end this week's episode. We decided to split it up into two separate episodes because Ashley then goes into sharing her testimony, which I figured would be an incredible, just dedicated episode for itself. So next week, you guys are going to hear Ashley's testimony on how she found Jesus. It is awesome.

is mind-blowing. It is truly the way that I found her on the internet and I can't wait for you guys to hear it. Next week is going to be so much fun. If you loved this episode, you're going to love the next even more. Thank you guys for tuning in this Friday. I hope that you enjoyed it. I pray that you guys have the most blessed week. I love you guys and please let's just show somebody why Jesus is so cool today. Can you guys do that?

Let's show somebody why Jesus is so incredible. Let's walk a little bit more like him. Let's love more like him. I will see you guys next week. Bye.

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