Chapter 8 — Finale: Indicted
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I did not want to write this at first due to the emotions and anger IT rehashes. The truth is, unless you were there to see exactly what myself and my family went through, IT will never be fully understood.

AManda, I first met you in a church, a church where you were a beloved member. You were the poor Young Christian woman that was fighting a battle and deserve for a friend dying of cancer. Hodges, k. Linton, a terminal.

This is the day I was ratified about mrs, right? This case. I have been in this belief when .

I heard the news, that amount of fake having cancer, I was in shock. So many things went through my mind relief, anger notion.

My name is is Nancy muscatel, and I am an investigative producer. And my life has been significantly impacted by AManda sy riles, indignant lies and mAlice conduct.

I like the courts, the attorneys, justice councillors and anyone who would listen, know about the investigation into a mandri. And while I got worse, no one believed me. And somehow now I was the bad parent because I was not going along with the narrative everyone had fAllen pray to. I became the one who .

set IT out loud.

This woman does not have cancer. SHE is baking .

cancer.

I'm charlie webster.

You're listening .

to skanda.

You might remember from earlier in the season how the world was supposed to end in twenty twelve. Obama had only just been reelected for his second presidential term. The london olympics was a big moment in my career, but now it's quite a long time ago.

There have been two olympics since, and there is going to be another one next year. We've had a whole pandemic between then and now take up now exit and is bigger than instagram and twitter. Twenty twelve was also the year a massy Riley started her blog and told the world SHE was diagnosed with cancer.

You might be surprised to know that her journey has been ongoing ever since. Through her blog, we learned about her four relapses, the devastating impact cancer was having on her life and her family, and the relentless treatment he was having to endure. But IT turns out twenty twelve wasn't the start of AManda's cancer journey. SHE told her friend's lisa and Steve barry that he had terminal cancer way back in twenty ten, while he told everyone, including her friend rebeca Catherine, that the reason why SHE started her blog in twelve was because SHE been diagnosed with cancer after the birth of her first child.

Right after he had her first child, they ran som tests. And that's when they found out IT was almost like the pregnant y was masking IT. But they figured that out IT was like, okay, you got a brand new baby. And do you have cancer?

That's what he told her friend Rebecca fero. But this is what he told her then friends lisa and Steve berry about her first child.

SHE said. Or I have some really good news. I'm pregnant.

And like, I thought you were dying. I thought you were dying. Oh, the pregNancy is reversing the disease.

So SHE said .

the pregNancy .

is reversing the cancer.

In twenty fifteen, an anonymous email dropped into the inbox of investigative producer Nancy mossoo, and IT Sparked an eight year curiosity that became an obsession. Namc got the attention of the sun house, a police department, and then the IOS. The investigations took five years. In july twenty twenty, AManda sea Riley was edited for war ferd.

I received a victims notification from the department of justice. I opened up that email and read that he was being investigated. I had no clear zero clue. IT was shocking to say the least.

What I like at the.

I was shock. I, I really was, I think I went directly back into the mindset of, can't this grow at a break? Can people leave her alone? Isn't SHE dealing with enough already? She's been in the hospital for a hundred days just this year.

And then I google IT, instantly found articles, then obsessively tried to find more information to justify what I was reading from the go right, this batch and what not. Obviously, I was left with one of uncertainty. I reached out to the people I thought we had in common, who essentially said, I believe AManda and I will, in total, proven otherwise.

And I was mostly open for that discussion. Like, did anything seen? Where do you? But IT seemed like there was just this outright support, and that if I were a question that maybe I was in the wrong.

So I cut off all that contact, immediate. They actually deleted social media at this point. I called my mom first.

Who knew? My mom knew that? No, my dear friend, a man.

I was dying of cancer. And SHE was shocked. We were all shocked. My house mates who didn't even know her couldn't leave the situation.

Did you believe AManda?

I believe AManda. I did. I believe AManda. I had some doubts because how does this? How does the department of justice get this that wrong? The whole thing was so elaborate, so elaborate and so intricate that I couldn't tell them that this was a scheme because who can put that much devotion and time and effort into such a huge successful ly mind boggling.

Did you speak to AManda after that?

Yes, I did. I contacted her via text immediately. I said, AManda, I want to let you know that earlier this week, I received a victims notice from the department of justice or a case being investigated.

I wanted to make her aware. That's when he replied back. IT was simple, I will call you.

And SHE did. He called me within the hour, and I was lying in bed crying, and I missed IT. I slept the rest of the day when I woke up the next day.

So let's try IT again. He said, I need to make this quake. I need to pick up my boys. I need to do pick up medication SHE was still telling me. SHE was in out of the hospital telling me he was doing medications and doctors appointment and so he was just so busy um I remember at least a couple times her saying I absolutely do have cancer you know I have cancer than that. Of course, where the mom of her bonus daughter came in, SHE starts to say that the whole intention was .

to ruin her life.

There was this bitterness from justice s. Mom that cory and AManda had received full custody. And that bitterness was what propelled this woman to try and get the word out there, that fake cancer. The other thing I had to say is that SHE wasn't the wrong, but he was in the wrong because he didn't understand SHE had to file taxes for her donation SHE collected, SHE said. Who was my mistake in yeah ah I will take credit for that one, but as soon as my doctor sends over the paperwork to the judge, I will be cleared from this all and then I remember clearly before SHE hung up with me. He said, okay, love you, girl, and that stuck with me.

You love me.

AManda was telling her close friends that the reason why he was being investigated by the I. O S is because he didn't realize that he had to pay taxes on the donations SHE received.

I had emails, apartment justice. I had emails from family who had emails, apartment justice, and I had text messages because most of my close friends had given at some point, so they were contacted. I remember reading IT and just feeling, oh my god, but I still IT wasn't like he was lying. I was like, how horrible is this? I just like bold, my eyes out about, what would this mean if .

IT wasn't true because .

IT wasn't just like this is a lie.

Like if this is a lie, then it's not just a ender that's paying.

Rebeca reached out to Peggy via text and asked her what all this was about. Peggie responded, telling Rebecca that IT was all about unpaid taxes on donations. And despite AMandas has been raided four years prior, Peggy claims AManda had no idea who is being investigated. And the IOS believe AMandas some master .

mind criminal AManda .

message rebeca shortly after.

This is what he says, hey.

I talk to me, my mom. And he mentioned, you reach out with this nightmare and going through right now, you, your family mean a lot to me. I would never want you to feel taken advantage if you ever want to talk about that.

And here they're welcome to tell me any of my appointments if you're questioning anything. And I wannsee first time, i'm really sorry this affecting you. Then SHE sent me her screen capture of her appointment on her phone from the portal.

What was the appointment for?

S B infusion, three hours. S, B I, T, C, H, I on call, R, N. The name of the hospital, the phone number, the time, three hour of one hundred eighty minute employment, which that's about how long chemotaxis.

Then the second photo is the nurse. I've looked IT up and it's a real nurse who is a real linked in profile, like all the information as that for the provider. I called the phone number like all of IT.

And then during the time that he said he was there, she's like in the infusions and other people around but what I give you reassurance and help you with your friends and family if I face time to you so you can see that life yourself, I face time and she's in as A I V vg, right here. She's got the mask gone and SHE let me take a screen out of IT of us talking when he was in her medical guard. I said of pose everything going with your case they're making little progress to get a resolved, hopefully soon, anxieties killing me, I just want done.

So I can only imagine, are they trying to get you a plea or any chances will drop IT can I help IT anyway? And I hope you sue everyone, even though I am not Normally a proponent. This is an exception.

SHE says, hopefully drop. We don't know yet. They're still in discovery playing medical records and stop.

That's what everyone keeps saying that we just want you to stop. If we know little kids, we'd probably do with that just drags us out for years. I mentally just can't do with that. We're still constraining, though. And I just said in mind, i'm so sorry for what you and your family is going through when I wish you nothing but health and happiness.

I was home babysitting, and one of the parents, the one that donate one hundred dollars .

OK SHE told me.

He says, my hasty. I got this email from just to get charney about AManda rightly.

you remember my hasty and the inquires babysitter and .

SHE turned me and tells me.

did you know about IT that he .

was cheating people on of their money? I said, no. He says, you do that in my other pants l SHE calls me and he says, what the goal is happening I said, what you got IT to?

I said, how come I did they get IT on the big to make them here? I got stepped on all over. So SHE says, called the district t tenny as the number of email plan SHE put me in the list of the victims.

SHE says, we half. I say, yeah, and I am the donor and left the babysitter. I did a lot I need to be heard to. So that's what they put me in a victim less.

Or at lee, the IOS special agent was collecting a list of victims in AMandas sy Riley's case.

My degrees in psychology, that's why cases like this, they ve fascinate me because I that's the one thing I wanted know is I want to know why, what motivates them, because that'll help me understand. Okay, where do I need to look? So that's kind of like for me, that's what I do IT is it's a psychology of the cakes.

How are they thinking? And i'm looking at some of the current cases are working on. Is that what I want to understand? How does their brain work? Because that will push me in the direction of where I need to find the seventh. And so this was no, no different.

Stephanie fin, the musician and among the celebrity hookup up, also got a notification from the department of justice.

They just seem like something crazy, like there's no way someone's doing this. There is no way I stopped to our life and was just like, please tell me this is not real. This is what I had sent to her good leaving.

I wanted to reach out and very upset hearing the information about rally. I still have my facebook messaging between us where SHE discussed her treatments many times, and I just might reach out to multiple country music artist. I just goes on a lot, I think, like when I talk to around the phones, like, please tell me this is not real. Like, please tell me that this is like, I don't know, just tell me that this is a eye and .

that they're .

wrong with you. Completely surprised by IT .

when you found them. I was in shocks. I was just like, my head was literally spinning.

Like, how can somebody like do this? And that's why I was battling with, do I practise capture? Do I pray that like she's completely healthy? And this is a lie that was just one of those things where it's like you don't even know which way to pray, which way to hope. Like, because IT IT just seems like there's no way this is some like made up story you see in some dramatic T V show where you're just like, wow, how do the writers come up with this .

stuff SHE responders, AManda's friend from church heard rumours flying around that AManda was faking IT all just within my my .

close little network um when they brought him up to me I very like old did you here man is helming to go to court because their claiming should lie. There's no way and there's thank you in the news. There has to be some reason and like something to substantiate that but me your personal was like it's that's not real.

There's no way but but pretty .

much the other people around me were like, well, that sounds like IT is and so obviously they were very upset about that and I can I refuse .

refuse to believe .

that I decided, okay, you know what? I'm just going back off and see what happen. I want to say, a handful of months paster, maybe even longer than that.

And her social media became active again. And I would comment on her post of her boys. I never brought up that specific issue just because, you know, whether was true or not, I still wanted to be a friend.

I didn't want that negativity. You know, he had never brought in a negativity into my life. And I just decided if the rumors are true and he didn't have cancer, you know, that's heartbreaking to find that out. But also there is someone doesn't just make something up like that if there's not something wrong. Part me was thinking OK, maybe I was just, you know, a handful of people who had made claims, so they they have to take a look into IT.

But IT just I didn't match .

with what I thought. My brain of her. I've seen her in the hospital also. Clearly, you know there's something going on so there has to be some type of truth to this for the doctors to have capture in a hospital for that long.

And o there's no way that this could all just be made up when i've literally seen her on hospital bed with troops in her ARM. There's evidence in front of my brain that you are sick because the doctors are attending to you. So how does that work essentially?

And had these fundraisers, i'd shared her story and social media. I asked people to donate and stand out emails to my friends. I think SHE was unable believable everything that she's said, like the made sense having lots of people had lost soon as I got that first email, I remember gooding, and there was the article that was out like a week earlier.

And I like, what are how like they knew this was coming. I can't believe. I mean, I guess i'm not that special like as the main donor and know the cluster communication, i'd had the row. I just was shocked that I was hearing at first from the core and not from them. They knew I would be ginning anything .

or contacted.

So at that point I was starting talking my theayter like, okay, what does this mean? And I think by december twenty, twenty, I was not like, alright, the reality is that this probably .

a raud part .

of me still was like something like this to be a hay like a fourth porter hill mary. But I was sitting with the fact that this was not going na be .

a good outcome when IT comes to elements of a crime in this case, where refund, we can show that .

there was a lie. I special agent .

and I prove that what he said, and then SHE got money for what he said. I could prove that IT was false because we had the medical records. And then from that point on, I showed the money going through the bank accounts, the money coming from victims.

There's a lot of .

emotions involved. There's a lot of things that you did. But when IT comes down to charging somebody with a crime, here are the elements. And this is what we we got. This is the evidence that we got.

And so that how we are able to approve IT, sometimes certain behaviors, or certainly motions, could be examples of kind of what he's doing going toward intent. But we really didn't have to. We always said, was SHE solicitor donations saying he had cancer? We can prove he did not have cancer.

SHE got this money. SHE didn't have any medical expensive. The bottom was, the record showed SHE didn't have cancer yet to receive donations from people to help with her cancer.

We did get records that showed SHE never was treated poor cancer and he was never diagnosed with cancer. And so in the end, that was presented to her and SHE play guilty to IT. So if you were sick and you were seeking treatment and someone who told you, well, we don't have any record of that.

you probably .

would try to get a record from somewhere. And so what R K showed was there were in no .

records if she's going .

to a particular facility over over again, taking pictures, claiming to be sick and claiming to whatever, but the record show that he never received treatment, never diagnose there, you're at some point, okay, if you actually are, then you would tell us how convinced .

with you that there will be a conviction.

oh.

hundred percent. Because the way the I O S works, the way irs agents work, is everything is we do with that documents. We're not we don't rely on a witness to say, okay, this person did this like, you know, a bank robbery or there's a witness that person back the back. We based IT on records. And so we have the medical records, I have the financial records, and then we had the blogs showing.

okay, she's telling .

people this and she's getting money for that. And that was cancer, which then I could document did not exist. So IT was just a matter of, when was this gonna happen when he going to fight us and want to go to trial or would he plead.

do you prepare as if you're going to trial?

absolutely. And that's actually something that uh, we do on on most four cases because you're want to get all the evidence and it's it's tight. I won't take a case if I think somebody he's done something wrong, but I don't have the evidence. There's a lot of cases that we know the person has committed crime, but if we can prove IT, then we were not gonna forward with IT because it's just not that's not what we do. We based everything on the facts .

and on the evidence.

SHE plead guilty to wine fund. He used her blog, which is the blog, in the way the money moved from her donation account, the online account. So that's the fire part. And so SHE used that to get the funds, and I was about in a little over hundred thousand dollars that I was able to trace.

What about all the people that gave cash donations?

So in cash donations, that wouldn't be part of the wire from charge because I didn't use the wires, they're not included. We showed a wide fraud and IT was based on the donations that went through her website.

Is IT possible to include the cash in a case like this? Or does IT have to be traced via wires? I just intreat because what if IT all came through cash? Would IT have been something that you wouldn't be able to charge for?

Didn't we might look at something else, and I would have to really think about what we would else. We would look at charging. But when you have a situation like this, uh somebody somewhere is going to pay with something electronic because you know today, age going be in more or it's going to a be paypal.

So we're not concerned about not being able to charge them with that. But with as far sentencing purposes, you know any donations, if there were cash or check, those would have been added in. So they may not have been part of the war for our charge, but they're going be included in the total amount of of fraud.

AManda did pleaded guilty to why I raud avoiding a public trial. Over three hundred and fifty victims were named in the wreford entitles accounting for one hundred and five thousand, five hundred and thirteen dollars and forty three cents in donations. There were many more victims, though, and a significant amount of money donated via cash checks, gift cards and in kind services, none of which was included in the way for charge.

It's probably not healthy for me to feel this way. I should be a bigger person, but IT IT really makes me angry.

American cancer society volunteer penny freed.

SHE was cute. SHE was charming, and he had this, this little elfish smile, and SHE really could have been anything and done so much more than this. And the amount of effort that I put into that is, is still kind of stunning to me.

To this day, my grandfather used to tell me that the best course of action and the easiest course of action was to stick to the truth, because it's a lot less work than having to remember what you lied about and the effort that he went to. I look back and I hope he lost leave over IT. That's all I say. I hope he thought, oh shit um but IT IT just is still is I still gic my head?

IT was terrible i'm telling you I was so terrible because my sister asked me about IT to her friends were asking what's going on, you know and he was very, very sad because people who work around me, they were just kept calling me. I have you. You didn't know me.

They know you were the closest to her, you know, I said, no. IT took a long time for them to trust me. You know, that really did.

IT was terrible.

You destroyed .

not only .

took money, you distract people's repetition and life. You try to do so much for somebody and you care. And next unit find out they were cheating you.

They were lying to you. How could a person do that? Bit the right mind? And really a person could do that.

You must be evil. I hate to say you are evil, self centers, selfish person. They say, when you're so close to death, you see your life front of you.

I saw the whole three years I baby sad and everything I did IT came fond of my eyes IT was all lies going to church with them. Stand front of all these people that they believe god and they acted like they believe god. SHE doesn't believing god. No, no. I think he believes in double and she's a double worshiper .

honestly, you know.

to say IT, if SHE believes in anything, I think double is the one on her side.

The hearing, where AManda pleaded guilty, was held over zoom due to IT being in the midst of the cove. A pandemic victims were allowed to join the zone and watch the proceedings.

I was on the zone watching IT. I am gonna call cry to see what he says. So I call corry.

I said, cory, you probably thought i'm the last person i'm gonna call you. He said, why you say that? I said.

what's going on? I told him this.

I said, I gonna call from district of trying to something. But on man up is this, I is our bolt, that's what he said is so you know that later I had a one nigh stand as a yet he started the whole thing. He started the whole thing.

And everything is stone to blow over by this thursday. I said, really? He said, yeah.

I say, okay. He said, well, me and and and then the kids will come up very secure. I said, okay, they never came. By the way, I hung up the phone.

I said, what did I do?

IT do you think i'm dead? IT is IT do you think of the one that you fall for three years? No, I said the food did. And I was on soon watching the whole thing. Yeah, he still decided IT was all just as mothers called investigative produce.

Nanc was also watching the court proceedings over zom.

If you were in in court, you wouldn't know that as you know, because what he was telling everyone else was at, which just I didn't pay taxes on the money I raised and this is no big deal. This is to get community service or i'm not going to get anything really didn't doing that bad, I just have to pay the money. And so when you hear that.

you go away a minute like she's not sorry. So .

yeah, he was a big part of my life for a bunch of years. And honestly, I think I will always, in the back of my mind, keep tabs on her because this won't .

stop somebody that .

does this and is continuing to do IT. And you know, I have people contacting me about her still doing something on some level of, you know, medical fraud. It's like sh'll go to jail and then you'll continue again.

I texted her after her court. I texted her to let her know that I was there. Just want you to know, being transparent myself. I was there on the me today watching, and he said, thank you for letting me know. SHE never had anything mean to say to me that was .

all supportive and loving.

but after the next couple times I texted her, which was just, I hope you're taking care of yourself. I didn't hear anything back. The very last message I sent her was AManda. I heard you plead guilty today.

and I just .

want to let you .

know that .

when did you start to realize that .

he was fake in her? When did you stop believing her .

when SHE played guilty?

Do you believed to have .

right up until the time SHE pled guilty?

Because the people around me were so convinced that he had faked cancer, I had that in the back of my mind. But in the beginning, at the forefront of my mind, I was picturing her fainting in church. I was picturing the ivies in her ARM the ambuLance ride.

and read all the statements that .

he is submitted .

to the court and have watched the proceedings. IT is almost like a bad hollywood novel, I don't know, helps to put IT that someone would go this far, far for what a shopping trip in new york. You know what? Get a job. Save your pennies. The only thing I think is still, to me, unresolved, is the fact that poor her husband is off scot free and .

he was in IT .

whether .

he had to .

know my .

other friends .

would try to think about IT. They didn't have two pennies to rub t together. All of something here comes to cash for this, cash for that be paid for her birthday, that they invited everybody to come. And then another southern curry comes with a brand new truck .

and like what that come from.

So he had to know it's crazy.

There is no way that he wasn't absolutely .

no way .

that he wasn't a part of IT jammy .

eater's daughter, jess sister. What makes you say that .

they will .

continue to be together for what? Ten years or so? I don't honestly know a how long, but a very long period of time you're with that person.

You see everything that that person's is going through when you have a part you are living with, like you are right there with them. There is no fraction of my mind that thinks that Cherry did not know what was going on and that he was a victim in this. I do not believe that for a second.

I think it's it's a harder case to prove that he didn't know that he doesn't know something right. He's there is in the .

mix 3HA police department detective who z Martina who first looked .

into among this case a at I also look at at and I store knowing what they ask for， knowing how they handled their information, how they have a manipulate information. So I thought, okay, if I courage, defensive, terreros, I am literally gonna go on. I don't know what cancer, I don't know.

You know, somebody cancer looks like, he said, and he has cancer going into the hospital. He took into the hospital we were at oncology, came home in her head shape, he goes, all these appointments, I believe, cancer. And how am I going to prove that he's not stupid or that he's playing stupid, right? Proving somewhere in the middle ground, I mean, you can spend all day just proving somebody doesn't know something.

And you and I are going to go, well, how could he not know? Well, I asked yourself, how did all these people for the last ten years not know? Maybe she's that good, maybe she's that good and the family time and me like she's that good. So I just think that the USA training .

was clean, like proving .

that is is gonna be much, much bigger or not the same amount a result. And I think that went after her just as a single person, and everybody else knows damn well that he probably knew.

including his own child.

But proving that a very difficult tasks when she's fool, saw many other people, right? And she's so committed to IT and maybe he was that good. I know that I I just think so when .

we work our cases, we look at everything. So we're not just going to look just okay just here, here because we're getting back accounts, we're getting no computer records, we're getting everything. So we get as much information as possible.

We need to get the whole picture, but sometimes the evidence we get does not point us two other folks, doesn't mean that the person, the other people are not involved. Just means that goes back to what what I was singing the beginning. Sometimes we don't have the evidence that proves IT that we know we could take this to court or we could take this to trial and win.

A man is going to prison because we had evidence against her. So if we have evidence, we will go go after other people who are doing this or participating. You know that's a possibility. But I really can't comment too much on on what we did, what we didn't do as a pertaining to cory or her family members, who some people think knew what was going on. So I think I leave .

IT at that.

There are still questions over whether AManda did this alone or if others closed to her new and we're complicit. We discuss this with both detective Martinez and special agent and IT went back to our point in episode six. Lying isn't illegal on its own. To bring a charge requires a high burden of proof and tangible evidence.

My angers really actually have you. This is what makes me angry is tedious cleaning and SHE claimed IT in the email that he sent to me that he didn't know about any of this until september of twenty twenty one. But in August of twenty twenty he told me she's that in the man a, which is obviously not true if a man never had so he he was lying for .

her a year before he admitted .

in knowing about IT which means that she's lied to me. That he knew at a point where he was flat line to my face. I don't know when he knew. I would like to believe that a mother's intuition that when a man the first day dying us with cancer and I you would have been at a doctors appointment with her, I mean, here is your daughter with a brand new baby navigating cancer and you're the same state and you aren't that any appointment or you say you are like wind, did this really come up for pet? That there was a question because there's no way of one of my children, there's no way as mother, I wouldn't know.

The I O S. Victims list included every person who donated money to AManda over the intimate. Included in the list is Peggy, her mother, with a donation amount of ten dollars.

I think every one of the meal, what he was doing, or they found out somehow down the road that SHE did, that he probably was gonna sue them too. Who knows her own family, who or SHE was gone to cut tom off from seeing her kids? You could use a lot to shut your parents off if you want to, I think, is somehow they knew something, but they didn't want to say anything to her.

The question everyone kept asking was.

how did he .

do IT mean? If we look at ourselves, if I wanted to go into an emergency room, I could go in and they wouldn't turn away. So I don't know, uh, how someone would not be able to just kind of do what he did because you could go into anywhere and take photos or whatever we wanted to .

do .

while you're there.

In some of AManda's photographs that went along on her blog, SHE would say, here I am, am at columbia, getting such in such treatment, I would zoom in on any identifying equipment, computers. I V S even embraced lets as he was wearing, you know, her emergency of embraced lets. And you could carefully look at what they look like and compare them to what that they should look like.

One of the times SHE claimed to be in columbia at their hospital. And all the logos and stuff that I could zoom in on where from N, Y, U, which is a completely different hospital, cross town, and had nothing to do with the clinical trial. SHE was supposedly part .

of another example SHE would post.

that he was in columbia, in the ecology department. And SHE had a picture of herself standing in front of a very distinct oncology sign. I think it's said, like four forty oncology. And when I looked at columbia for four forty and college, I didn't exist. But where IT did exist was in kaiser .

in california.

So SHE would take dozens of pictures wherever he would rome around and go to, and then use them over the years as necessary.

How does somebody .

go in a lot of hospital like he did if SHE didn't have cancer?

Well, you know, it's really easy to walk around hospital and walk into an ecology wing. You know, you follow the signs and you walk around the the places that are harder to get into would be an emergency room. So what amended would do is he would claim illness or faint or or have something that he would end up in an emergency room. And in from there, he took her from there, took pictures. I mean, it's not that hard to go into an emergency room and claim there is something wrong and be admitted.

It's so easy, in fact, that AManda apparently didn't stop doing IT even after pleading guilty by the time a man to pleaded .

guilt that they had moved to texas so they left northern california with living outside of us and texas, the story had broke um about her arrest and that he had pleaded guilty and IT was in the newspapers on social media now there was a lot of articles rain and on facebook there was a news report about local Austin woman pleaded guilty to to faking cancer and in those comments I tracked down someone and reached out to them and said, what do you know about this they have commented that she's here in Austin doing the same thing and right away I was like, I need to know, I need to know what she's up to and here he is pleaded and guilty what she's doing the same thing what does this mean?

Nancy holders that a source of hers confirmed that even after pleading guilty, AManda was still turning up at hospitals claiming he was sick.

I found out through that source that AManda was still going to emergency rooms.

still putting .

herself in there with the guys that he has cancer and asking for treatment or asking for help and and medications. And I was told that after two visits, they became very suspect of her coming into the emergency room, and they read flag or in their system. And I think that something that is unique to texas, that their computers or their medical care can be connected where the one hospital will know from the other. And so he was, I was told he was flagged in that system. So if he was to come in again, that they would be on higher.

Or how do you know that I was .

contacted by a source that witnessed, and was a part of IT, california.

where AManda lived for over a decade, had no central database where information was shared between hospitals about a patients. It's only now that the state is implementing a system to share patient data.

I was an outcast at just a socket games, an outcast at her gynt CS anything to do with sports or school, even councillors, certain councillors.

AMandas guilty plea was vindication for Jimmy and just as mama, he was targeted for calling AManda er's cancer into question and he was blamed by cory and AManda for the entire er investigation despite the fact IT was medici IT was behind its all .

and of course the charges and attend ys, they all looked at me and like, despise me for IT. I don't know what you want to call IT, just horrifying. honestly. I mean, took me in that position constantly. I mean, I had my own structure with anxiety a lot because of this stuff.

Drawing a leader in cores custody case over their daughter gesa. Back in two thousand sixteen, cory made a statement, the court, a note that mother in curry statement refers to a litter mother .

has started attacking my wife, AManda, and his telling reporters in law enforcement that a man is faking her cancer. Mother seems to be eluding to her belief that a man and I will be criminally prosecuted for faking a man as cancer as mother and her attack y are known to be actively involved with the reporter pursuing this investigation against AManda and have discussed with jess seph, a man and our family have been through so much trauma and stress as a man has battle cancer for over four years, and mother's attacks on this horrendous struggle .

are unconscionable.

The most offensive false allegations by far is her claim that AManda is fragile. Eny claiming to have terminal cancer in order to steal money from family and friends. A man is battle's cancer, and our family strugling to cope while SHE fights for her life is very real. IT is appalling that SHE accuses us of engaging in a elaborate scheme to fake the horrible disease out of a selfish desire to rob the people closest to us. The accusation is the autumn example of her completely irrational hostility y towards me that cloud her thinking.

In the statement, the word irrational is underlined. Cory continue to say .

there is no cancer scam.

Now that she's been found guilty, 哼， has anybody come forward to you and apologize?

Not one single person.

From what I ve been through personally knowing and like it's not like she's a stranger to cancer, like sheku me when I had cancer and it's just it's wild that somebody .

can so thoughtfully .

create this big scheme and take from so many people.

The money is .

one thing, but just praying on people's hard and fears and just terrible.

For reality, a gesa and jam, three people who have known AManda since he was just a seventeen year old come into the house to teach cheerleading. The guilty plea brought a mixture of emotions, including a sense of anger. Jamie, record a time. Jason, her brothers mAnderson's, just three in one years old at the time, we're told they may need to donate their barrow.

I remember the first moment that I felt really angry about all this was I was on my way to work and my mom called me. And this was after I knew that I was fake, my mom called me and told me that my sister justice was scared because a man that needed a bone meal transplant and SHE was gonna need IT from either the boys or from my sister. If he would be willing.

Just shows a Young child at the time. I can't remember exactly how old, maybe like eleven or twelve, something like that. Remember my mom being very pissed on the phone, understandably so when I got pst off because you not only are you telling these lies and you know telling a story, but you're putting fear into my little sisters. S had that SHE or her brothers are going to have to undergo a serious Operation to save your life, like you're going the extra mile for all of this and to pray on my sister for that, like that was the first moment that I got, like, really mad about what was happening.

Gesser eventually went back to live with her mom. She's now nineteen, married and less around the corner.

There's growing .

up in being here now, like the relationship I have with my mom is amazing because we've fought through all .

of this together .

and our relationship is so different.

Even though we've gone through .

all the hard times, we are just so much stronger because of IT.

You still see amount of your dad.

No, I didn't see him for a long time. I remember. I was really hurt, but in a way was kind of relieved. You know.

I got got to .

go home. I was unable to speak to see my month for a year for.

And I have to be home.

I think .

because of everything .

i've gone through, things are a lot harder now they we've had to be, if for none of this happen, I go through a lot daily. You know, I ve doubt with really heavy depression and severe aniele and turn a function some days I ve just been through so much that I always kind of like you'll be OK for a little while and and all just kind of floods .

back to me .

that makes me feel. Like didn't getting out of my read, you know, because they're just been dealing with this for so long. And I just hope that one day, like. I won't feel this waiting. But I have an amazing group of friends, have an amazing husband, amazing family, and each and every day they really helped me and let .

me know that now .

this was my fault and. That i'll get through one day.

I hope that one day either dad and AManda will sit down until you the truth. That's what I hope, because they're not telling her the truth.

Still SHE still .

has not .

looked at my daughter in the eye and apologized.

or her dad or, and I don't have cancer.

No, she's never even had said SHE doesn't have cancer. They say things are not as they seem that what they .

taller part of me, you thinks that maybe SHE is sick with something else, or maybe her mental issues are so bad, maybe that's why.

But IT just sucks .

that they won't .

actually set down with me or even just give me a phone call and tell me. Exactly what's happening or what had happened. You know what? I mean, I feel like after all of the things they put me through, I kind of deserve that. At least .

I feel really .

bad for my sister because this, none of this should have happened and the fact that they timmy knowledge, from what I ve been told up until the very end, they kept telling my sister nothing what .

IT seems they're still trying .

to put up the scheme when she's not, she's not a child. She's now a ground woman, Young woman, and you're still trying to like play like, oh, things aren't what they seem like. What are you talking about? It's so manipulative.

It's so it's just so terrible. She's a lot less trusting of new people, and understandably so. She's got a garden, I would say. And I .

just hope .

one day he can look back at this and .

be OK.

Here's a short list of just some of the lives that AManda told people that turned out to be untrue. If you remember, there was a two hundred and eighty thousand dollar hospital bills submitted to the court. IT was actually photoshopped.

You could tell if you went through the pages, they forgot to photo shop. One of them, I was actually only twenty eight thousand dollars. They added one extra, did IT to make IT two hundred thousand dollars more.

AManda told Stephen lisa barry that he was studying for A P. H. D. As stanford university, AManda didn't study for a PHD and never attend a stanford despite .

korean AManda saying .

they were going to lose their house because they didn't have enough money. Korean AManda have never owned a house. Korean a litter were married for four years despite corry telling a hasty IT was just a one night spend.

AManda was telling people that the investigation into her was a mix up because there was another person named demand the Riley who died from cancer. Well, there was a Young girl named, demanded Riley, who died from cancer. A name mix up was not the reason for the IOS investigation.

SHE told the sitter husband was a fireman, which also turned out to be a big fat Harry lie. In fact, he also represented himself as a fireman. Big funerary. I believe .

he is like A A professor, right, or a teacher, something to like that. So I just thought maybe SHE like older guys, that was the first thing I just thought of. Or maybe was a professor, I don't know.

Cory was never a firefighter or a professor. He works in the sale and maintenance of fires. brinker. As for mana, we spoke a woman named anji, a cancer survivor herself, who still didn't know whether AManda was faking cancer.

I still don't know. I don't know. He had cancer at one point and got over IT. I mean, I completely believe you're not that I would. I didn't even i'm so learning about my own cancer and I had IT the .

fact that he had never had cancer. I mean, does he like read this and a stories somewhere where someone did this?

And SHE was under the impression that AManda work for an oncology department.

I have no idea where the thought would come from, except for the fact that SHE SHE worked for a college department.

I heard .

that from someone. I mean, someone said that SHE, I think, worked in an college department, right? So SHE knew the length. O is that .

her background SHE .

did not work in an oncology department. That was another lie. There was one more lie, one that Rebecca spends a didn't know about until Nancy called and explained.

Nancy, you know, he called. And i'm like, at first i'm like, is this crazy? This is not real. But then I started looking and I like.

wow, IT was I opening?

I was like, you're kidding me. And then he was telling me how they would ve been investigating for years. And then like, what are you tired? And I was blown away at first, like, just blown away.

And then know what came out in an article through our town. So IT was like, wow, this is all for real. I was under the impression that he had other degrees to me to find out SHE didn't was like, wow, that's impossible.

Well, how do you do that? What I didn't know that you didn't need IT for the school. I would presume you did. But i've only doubt public schools. So I didn't realize the private schools were a little different.

So you don't need to be a qualified teacher to work in a private Christian school.

And we just presumed I think we all presumed that everybody was qualified. But I guess that learning now that you don't technically SHE wasn't a teacher, I don't you know if all the teachers need the dentists or not.

What do you think about those two children that thought their mom was dying?

I think that's horrific. Those were the sweetest two little boys. You know, I saw the one more than the other.

And they were just kind, sweet little boys. And they had to have thought their mom was sick. I don't know how you could do that to your child.

I could see doing people, I know. I can see how you do IT to people, other people. But you know what i'm saying? It's like they're babies. They are babies.

As Kenny garden, when this all have Kenny garden, SHE was saying that he was sick, as he must have been saying he was six for years and years before that with these two little boys growing up with her. So IT was like, those poor things must have just you're just so bad for him. The school did nothing. They said nothing in the whole time, nothing, not one more.

And they .

still .

haven't nothing. No.

because I think maybe there for, I don't know, but no.

they have not said a word.

I tried to think and I tried to say, okay, so SHE got herself, caught a lie, and maybe he went down through this hill. SHE couldn't get her lize out, you know, SHE didn't know where to stop.

but SHE did. That were babies. SHE came to .

our classroom. SHE hugged her children in the whole time he was lying. And it's like, wow, how can somebody do that? There's a special place in help for you.

Remember the fundraiser that pacific point elementary held for mrs. William the Cindy while they were both fighting cancer, miss Cindy passed not too long after IT.

I think that's the hardest that you know means Cindy shall have got all that money now half and miss Cindy was dying and did pass. SHE needed that money. He was sick. He had to be out of work.

SHE had to .

suffer with radiation and then to ultimately pass. And that miss Riley thought I was okay to still half that money because that's what he did. He stole half. Ever send these money? earth.

Ten years after a mondesi rilla's .

blog first hit the internet and attracted the attention of thousands of followers, fans and cancer survivors around the world, AManda was about to embark on a brand new journey on the fifth of may twenty twenty two, Jackson and I flew out to sano z, california. AManda Riley was preparing to be sentenced. How do you feel about the sentencing is tomorrow as we record in?

How do you feel about that?

People have been asking me that for a few weeks, and I feel. I feel all sorts of things. I feel really anxious.

I feel or am hoping that i'll .

feel a sense of relief.

And almost this whole .

thing just feels like a movie or IT feels like a dream .

doesn't feel .

real to me. And I don't think it's gna feel completely real to me until I step in the courtroom.

Have you .

thought about .

what he feels .

would happen to her?

I want her to get the time that he deserves, and whatever .

time judge these fit.

I want her to realize that. It's more than money. She's hurt a lot of people. And I think he needs .

to just stop feeling .

sorry for herself, suck IT up.

serve her time and really .

think about what she's done.

I think SHE will. But he .

seemed that type of person to you.

No, I don't think so. I think she's just gonna feel starrie for herself and that's IT a man is not the kind of person that genuinely feel sorry.

We spoke to guess the day before AManda was during court for sentencing the next morning, Jackson, I wondered, over to the federal courthouse and joined a growing line of people to head through a security checkpoint. We were sandwiched in between AManda curry and AMandas parents, peg tom, they were in front of us. AMandas dad had his arms around his daughter, while the cory had stepped off the side.

Behind us was a litter jasa, linsey lisa, and a litter mom, gail, plus an ever growing line, a former team, AManda followers. Security had to keep moving people to the side because there were that many people blocking the walkway. Sister jammy was also there. I was blocking .

IT out for so long. I didn't even want to go to the sentencing. No, I didn't want to go.

But I could hear in my sister s voice when he asked me to go that SHE SHE wanted her big sister there. SHE wanted support there. And he is the reason why I went.

I remember going, and I was getting chewed up, just seeing everything that i've been pushing out, a slowly sipping in. And I just remember telling myself that you've got to be the strong one. You have to be strong for justice, trying to put my my feelings aside, like, be strong for gesa, do IT for gesa.

And I tried .

when we .

were in line to go into the courtroom, know the setting we looked for a right. And just all but like two feet away from us is AManda and gory. And that moment I was just like, IT really hit me in that moment what was happening, what we're about to go in and do and see in here. And there was like a slap in the face of like, hey, this this is happening. Why didn't .

you want to go?

I think I just didn't want to face IT. I didn't want .

to feel like .

a victim. I didn't want to feel like I was wrong. I didn't want to feel any of what i've been, you know, pushing out associated with this.

I didn't want to acknowledge that IT was happening, almost like, if I can say as far away from me as possible, IT won't affect me. And I know that silly and that so silly, you know, hearing myself say that, like they would actually happen like that. But that's the only .

way that .

I can think to describe why I was so reluctant talking about any of this. I couldn't allow myself to believe that somebody like that is out there and that I was so close to this person at one point. It's just IT was too much to accept as reality.

We SAT in the courtroom and waited despite the fact that there were two of the cases before, remembers the court room was full of people waiting to see what was going to happen to AManda. I SAT with jack and directly opposite tim. AManda.

Now we used to just four people, her corry and her parents. There was a nervous energy in the corum. While the sentencing guideline was eighteen months, AManda's s legal team had requested a six month stay in prison.

Then the docket was called case twenty one dash zero zero zero four six states the AManda Christine wiley. AManda was called to face the judge SHE moved slowly and seemed to have a limas. SHE walked from the back of the courtroom.

SHE looked very different from what we seen of her on her blog post. SHE came across much older than thirty six. The judge allowed victims a chance to make a statement of the court.

Many people had already submitted written statements, but four people stood up to speak in person. A litter, Linda, lisa and geta AManda had to stand of watch. SHE faced. Each person won by one as they address sed.

The court IT was curious to watch, as I understood, with very little expression starring blankly at each victim while this both during jestice statement, SHE casually wiped to away tears while corry was the one steam blankly. When everyone had finished speaking, the judge signalled an intention to give a man at a sentence that was above the eighteen month guideline and gave her a chance to respond. A man understood, hunched over, and he whispered softly into the microphone the judge couldn't hear at first and directed a Mandarin's lawyer to pull the microphone closer. This is the statement you made to the courts read by actor candle horn.

You're honor. There aren't enough words to adequately express how horrific I feel and how sorry I am that this happened. My heart aches every day thinking that I did something that hurt other people.

This is the worst thing I ve ever done in the worst mistake I could have made. I don't sleep well at night because this haunts me daily. I can't even look at myself in the mirror without feeling ashamed, and i'm so sorry.

Looking back and recognizing that I heard a lot of people crushes me, and IT has for a really long time now, I have been dealing with the repercussions of this for years. I threw away my dream career, lost on my friends and family. I went from being a nobody to being negatively covered in dozens of tablets in the news articles.

I'm i'm paranoid. I'm be in followed all the time and i'm too scared to open social media messages for a fear of what they will say in the hurtful things that people have said to me. Until today, I have never publicly addressed this, and it's time I stepped forward and be accountable to try to do, to try to write this wrong.

I'm here to accept responsibility and humbly accept my consequences as the first step of showing everyone I want to make this rate. I will spend the rest of my life working towards the amends for the hurt that I have caused. I want to publicly apologise to all the victims, in this case, specifically the church, in those who participated or helped with fundraising, to all of the kind, loving people who help us.

I ask that you not be deterred from your servants heart because of my mistake. Please continue to help those in need. I want to apologize to my family, coy, my husband, my parents, my brothers are best friends that we consider family and our kids.

Our lives will never be the same because of my choices, and I am so sorry for that. Jasa my bonus daughter. I hope this brings you the closure and clarity you have been seeking.

I'm so sorry you were in the dark for what was truly happening for so long. You had to walk through this and IT breaks my heart to know I hurt you. I do love you and always have loved you, like you were my own.

There is nothing I can do or say to make this Better for you, except to promise through my actions that I will work each day for the rest of my life to rebuild our relationship from the heart eye have caused you. And I hope one day we can get there are two Young boys were babies when this started, so they were too little to be affected by my bad choices. And korea and I have worked so hard to protect and shelter them from this, so they could live .

Normal lives now .

to see them as big boys who are going to see their mom go through this process is going to flip the world upside down. Being a good mom is what I have always wanted most in this world, and it's my job to love and protect them. So IT breaks my heart most of all that the reason they are going to be hurt and not to your mom every day, is because of me.

I humbly write this steel as a way of accountability, a first step to try to write a terrible wrong. And I promised to spend the rest of my life working to out of myself. I promise I will spend the rest of my life spent helping others and not hurting them. Thank you for sharing my statement.

The U. S. District judge, the honner's bath freeman, thank the court, the victims and the family members, and then gave her verdict. This is the full statement from the judge.

It's hard to know where to begin here. In considering this crime, based upon all of the information provided through the plea agreement and IT is clear, miss ri, that you prayed on the kindness and goodwill ale of innocent, loving people for over seven years. You invaded the santin of communities and grieving members of support groups.

You you betrayed your family. You either duped or caused your husband to act in concert with your scheme so that he ruined the life of his own daughter for your Bakery. You'd fraud people of their money, of their goodwill, of their beliefs.

I can only imagine that over eight years you were as sincere to those people as you appeared to me today. And I have to say that i'm listening to you today. I could only have had him what a good act you had for eight years in front churches, community groups and in your blog and online and with your children.

IT breaks my heart to think that your boys will not have their mother with them. But IT was your responsibility before you committed these friends to think about your parental obligations. IT is not the court's jo B2Clean tha t up for you.

You are here today for me to consider punishment. And therefore, in considering the nature and circumstances of the crime, including the seven year period of the fake cancer publicized in the community and across social media, you solicit financial support and emotional support or non existent medical treatment. You saw goodwill and assistance from your neighbors, from the church, from cancer support groups, all as a rules to support your own lifestyle.

This included deception and theft, forge medical records, praying on the goodwill of strangers, friends and family, and the significant impact on victims. You have virtually shadow the life of your step daughter and you claim you love her. I don't think that's enough to make immense IT appears that the number of victims may be an excess of three hundred and fifty people, and the amount of money that you scant from these innocent people appears to be over one hundred and five thousand dollars.

In considering the seriousness of the crime, there is no doubt that this is a very serious crime. I have to further consider public safety and the need for deterrence. I do find the publi C2Be a s ig nificant ris k fro m you.

I do believe that this will happen again. In my view, the guideline sentence is not significant enough to punish for this crime. I will impose an upward variance of the guideline sense, and I will sense you to sixty months in prison. This crime Carries a maximum prison sense of twenty years. I consider this to be a significant reduction from the maximum, although it's hard to imagine who would be more deserving of a maximum sentence for fraud than you IT is my view that sixty months is fair and reasonable under the circumstances pursuing to the sentencing reform of one thousand nine and eighty four IT is the judgment of the court that a mandri is hereby committed to the custody of the bureau's sons for a period of .

sixty months.

The court room went from dead pan silence to a low rumbling of murmurs and gas of shock. AManda didn't react. SHE was officially sentence to five years in prism, plus in additional three years supervised release. SHE was also ordered to pay restitution plus interest to all of the victims, listed over three hundred and fifty of them that are on record. This is the only case of its kind in IOS s history.

I was shocked because that is a northern california that's pretty hefty sentence for White collar crime.

special agents.

When this comes up, the next time, if somebody else is sit or someone's collecting money for certain cars, IT just changes the way you trust. And I think in this particular case, there were a lot of victims and IT wasn't because of the money. IT was emotionally. And so I hope that they can trust again and kind of get through this and see that you know the government did what we could do to help and um so I am glad that I was part of this case.

I still don't have a anger. I am not someone who wants to attack her or scream at her. In a weird way, it's more of motherly disappointment on a grand scale.

I don't know what I would say to her, even my last message I was way too nice. But in my statement, I said I think you're suffering as we speak in IT. Maybe that's enough. She's going to stay in jail for five years. And then pretty contempt .

that wish .

I was longer, of course.

is that person is not gonna change your addition, you're additive for the rest of your life. You don't become .

non added if SHE goes .

in for five years and when he comes out, she's still gonna do IT. He's still gonna do IT I don't think he knows anything else. She's gonna count somebody from something else.

I don't think very many people are upset about actual money, more than upset about the betrayal. I feel bad for her children, but what he did was disgusting and wrong. And IT does affect other people.

What about the people that are really sick, that do need that money, that do need that help? He stole from them. He stole from people that passed, in a sense, because, and people that are passing.

So for me, five years, I mean, he needs to learn a lesson. I'm surprised that at all SHE got. I'm not sad for her. I'm sad for her children.

I've tried to feel bad that SHE won't be part of her children's lives .

for five years.

but maybe they bit off about. I'm a little disappointed myself that I don't have more sympathy pathy for her, but I do not. And five years, and maybe i'm dated because of what I went through with my dad, but what SHE did is just so low that I don't know. I really hope that, like I said, that someday he just sits in cries, realizes what IT coal, loud human being, she's spent.

Business coach, I wish that my clients had the nonstop commitment that he showed in this, but they could have been channel to good because this could invade an unbelievable successful entrepreneur.

While i'm not excusing what he did, i'm definitely not gonna punish her further for that because i'm sure plenty of people are doing that. People make mistakes and they sometimes make really big ones. And I am not someone who wants to bring more negativity into the world.

And if he needs a shoulder to cry on or just someone in her corner, you know, i'm gonna listen and be there for her to the best, my ability. I might not trust everything he says to me at face value again. I might not let her into the same extent that maybe I did before, but i'm not gonna put up that once and know you lied so you are about person and i'm done with you because I wouldn't want someone to do that to me.

When AManda was leave in the courthouse after her sentencing, I approached her and introduced myself and gave her my number. A few hours later, while we were start at the airport way to catch a right home, SHE sent me a message. A man is just replied to my message.

My message was just thanking her for concerting me and saying that I was thinking about making a documentary project. I would like to talk to her and and I said, I hope to chat when you have chance. Completely understand that there's a lot going on and there's no rush.

Her message replied to me, eleven, fifteen A M. So when an hour after I message her is I will be open to hearing your thoughts. Maybe we can set up a time to talk because you are right.

My whole side of the story has never been shared, and there is a lot there. I realize that even though she's pleaded guilty and made a statement to the court, she's never explicitly admitted to anyone that he was faking cancer. On september the third, twenty twenty two, a man had turned herself in to federal prison before he turned herself in SHE text me to let me know that I was added to her proved contact list.

So I reached out to her and wrote her a letter asking if he was OK to email. SHE replied via the prison's email system, and we exchanged a few emails back and forth. SHE was concerned that I was friends with the litter, and I was hired by her in an attempt to make her life even more hell.

Now I made IT clear to AManda.

but i'm an independent journalist.

My daughter is heart broken. Manda counter lize constantly need for attention, and greed was all that matter to her. SHE desperately tried to ruin my reputation and tried to ruin the relationship between me and my daughter. SHE wanted me left with nothing. I was like, I was a target SHE had to destroy IT is my hope that there will be justice for what my daughter and our family have been through for over eight years.

I afraid that SHE humbles herself self and make a mense to all the people that SHE harms so that god can find a place for her in heaven.

I was a plate live donor long before I met you, but now, knowing your entire story is fake, that there were no meds, was no last chance trial, no couple months to live, I now know the blood was never for you. AManda, I don't wish bad on you. I imagine you're suffering enough.

I don't want money. I don't want my tears back. I want my prayers back. And in this, I want justice.

SHE should know that what he did is not only what he took from everyone, but also what he did to people's life who were close to her. Believe her. I put, my sister had cancer, and we went through help.

And back when AManda .

said he had cancer, I really believed her and was there for her. What kind of human would do that to another here? And be my sister .

was loved by so many, but have forty one SHE lost her life to lung cancer. The english, my sister suffered no on her time with her Young children, be cut so short, was engrained in my mind the pain on my mother's face, and when he lost her daughter, I will never forget. My sisters has been in children, went now in home without her, and IT was devastating.

IT is inferiority to see a perfectly healthy person take on the plate of true warriors of cancer for financial gain. 它的 产权 amenda y rally attempted to call my integrity into question， and assiniboia acting with lie upon line, with no regard to the damage was causing to my reputation and me. SHE had a complete disregard of the court and the court process and use IT as a weapon to try and destroy my investigation in my career.

Among ders out of your life.

she's been in your life for seven years. I can be weird.

Yeah I mean, it'll be strange. But in the same breath, doing this was important to me so that there's a record of this. She's going to continue to do something. I don't know what that is.

Whatever IT is, I feel it's important that there's something out there that if someone comes in contact with her, they have a doubt, they have a way to minute and they wanna a look, a rub, they see something and go, holy holly shit like, okay, i'm right. You know like me like they have something I didn't have which was proof that she's table she's capable of such a thing. I think think that's really important.

Yeah you think it'll bring you .

some closure? Oh yeah, yeah. I mean, to me it's kind of the the explanation point you made a personnel, you went down this road, you were found out and now it's over. I feel I got justice for for gesser, for a leader, for people that, you know, they were really put through hell what what he did for their family and the more I speak with them and and learned it's like it's abuse so horrible, horrible thing they went through and if this gives them their closure, that that helps me.

And the production of this podcast, we reached out for interviews and statements from cory, Peggy, AManda's brothers, her childhood friends, a family, community, church, fcc passed a bill, passed a chase, and the luchese a and linford society all declined to comment. Except for past chase, I did speed to him, though he wasn't willing to speak on the record. I asked her mother if she's speaks to me on the record as of the end of this production. I'm still waiting for her decision.

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