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In the North Atlantic Ocean, there exists an unofficial region shrouded in mystery that goes by the name of the Bermuda Triangle. The triangle itself is connected by sunny Miami in America, San Juan in Puerto Rico, and the island of Bermuda in the Sargasso Sea. It's an enormous stretch of ocean that encompasses over a million square miles. It is filled to the brim with tales, rumors, and stories from as early as the late 1400s.

They all seem to recount confusing, unexplained and dangerous phenomena experienced by the sailors and pilots navigating through the area. In fact, as many as 50 ships and 20 aeroplanes have reportedly disappeared in the Bermuda Triangle, and pilots and sailors traversing the area have been plagued by compass and electronic malfunctions. They have seen strange lights and unexplainable visual phenomena, and some have even claimed to have travelled through some type of time anomaly or wormhole.

Beyond that, violent weather events pop up from seemingly nowhere with very little warning and lives of many travelling across the triangle have been claimed, with the waters becoming a graveyard for those brave enough to explore it.

How can you explain the unexplainable? Is it the lost city of Atlantis? Aliens? Wormholes? Jeffrey Epstein? Let's find out in this week's episode of The Red Thread. Woo! Yes. There it goes. Yeah, Bermuda Triangle, boys. This is a big one. I...

I used to think about the Bermuda Triangle a lot when I was growing up. I thought it was going to be a way bigger deal than what it was. I was scared of the Bermuda Triangle growing up. That's an issue out there. That triangle is coming for me. I was the same way because of Jimmy Neutron. I think it was in the Jet Fusion special. They have the Bermuda Triangle equivalent, and that's what I learned about it. So I thought it was going to be really scary stuff, and when I looked into it a long time ago, I was like, oh, this is super fucking lame.

Yeah, it's very, very... The three things we learned as a kid that would be a much bigger problem as an adult were the Bermuda Triangle, quicksand, and catching on fire spontaneously.

Wait, spontaneous combustion? Yeah, stop, stop, drop and roll. You know, like everyone's like, if you're ever on fire. That's like if there's a house fire. Yeah, yeah. But if you're if you're in a house on fire, that's not the time to like the way it was always portrayed is like if you're ever just on fire for some reason and not within a fire, but on fire, stop, drop and roll. That is the correct advice, right?

Yeah, you smother the flame. Sure. Yeah, so stop dropping and rolling is the correct... Okay, advice for anyone else out there that might not know, stop, drop, and roll. It saves lives, potentially. Unless you're in a house fire, in which case, get out of the house first and then stop, drop, and roll, probably. There you go. That's the spirit. Well, I guess it depends on the level of house fire and the level of your fire. But yeah, user discretion in that scenario. True.

Regardless, you're not going to be stop dropping and rolling your way out of the Bermuda Triangle because it takes up a lot of the ocean and you can't roll in the ocean as well, obviously. So that won't protect you against the Bermuda Triangle. And as we just said, Bermuda Triangle, massive deal when we were growing up, all of us probably. It's definitely weaned off in terms of cultural relevance over the last maybe decade or so, but I remember it being enormous when I was growing up.

Like it was stuff that we used to talk about and be like, well, something is actually going down in the Bermuda triangle. Like it was always such a fun source of mystery. That's cool. Okay. I just don't have the same experience. Like I only really knew about it from Jimmy Neutron. That's it.

He only knows about it from a single pop culture reference. We never really talked about it in school or anything. Okay, well then we definitely had different experiences. Well, I guess my opinion of it was I thought that when I got older, it would be like, oh, the Bermuda Triangle is like this uncharted part of the sea that no one ever steps foot in. And then I realized it's like the most traveled part in the world.

Yeah, it's a massive shipping corridor. Yeah, so it's like, oh, okay, well, I guess it's not that spooky if everyone's just kind of disappointed. My mental image of the Bermuda Triangle was growing up was like this stretch of ocean that permanently had thick clouds over it and no one would go in there and come out. It was like this entirely mysterious unexplored... It's like middle of nowhere, no one accidentally goes through there, but then it's like the most traveled route in the world. Yeah, it's just an ocean.

Every cruise ship in the world just like lives in it. Yeah. Connected by three extremely popular locations in Puerto Rico and Miami. So like that entire area. Oh yes, Miami. Truly the uncharted corner of the globe. Yeah.

But I think maybe the difference, Charlie, is potentially, and this is like a real life experience for me. We had a theme park ride, a local theme park ride at our SeaWorld on the Gold Coast, Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia in the 90s and early 2000s called the Bermuda Triangle Ride. And it was like this flume ride set in a giant like active volcano.

And it was really cool and also really scary for children. I was scared of it. There were like aliens inside when you went up there and they like jump scared you and shit like that. It was really fun. Really cool. Yeah, that sounds really nice. That kind of... That sparked that kind of like...

you know, imagination in me about the Bermuda Triangle. I think that might have been the first like exposure to the Bermuda Triangle for me. And then I would go home and like read books about it and like be like amazed by this concept. Real quick though, this episode is brought to you by Babbel and ZocDoc. More from them later on in the episode. They can't wait to tell you more about the Bermuda Triangle.

And we also have show notes below a lot of research into just a lot of the events that transpired in the Bermuda Triangle. So if you want the best information about it, so you can plan your next holiday through it safely, head to the description below to check the sources and the links.

The show notes, a lot of good information in there. And we're also on Spotify and iTunes, and you can find links to those below as well. Ratings help us out a lot, as well as commenting and just watching in general. Share it with friends and stuff. It really does help, and it really means a lot. So the very first situation we could find pertaining to the Bermuda Triangle, a little known guy, you might have heard of him, Christopher Columbus. What a guy. Yeah.

He's that guy who gave us a day off from school, right? That was his big contribution. Yeah. Well, not me. We don't observe Columbus Day over here, sadly. What, do you guys have like James Cook Day or something? No, we don't actually. I think we just have Australia Day, which is when we were officially founded. Super underwhelming. You guys should try and lobby for a Columbus Day.

Yeah. So as a non-American, he was the guy that discovered America. Well, it's hard to discover a land people were already on. He discovered it for Europe, effectively. He was the first person sent by a European dynasty to be like, yes, there is land over here that no nation in Europe has claimed to yet. So that was the significance.

Through act of God, we have claimed to, basically. Oh, the people that are already there, you ask? Oh, don't worry, we'll give them these blankets and that'll be a fair trade. Yeah, they were a fun group of people. Christopher Columbus deserves his day. So in 1492, Christopher Columbus, obviously a famous explorer and navigator, was on his first voyage to the New World.

As we say, it's not really the New World. It was there previously, but it was a new world to Christopher Columbus. He had never seen it before. He sailed right through the area that is now known as the Bermuda Triangle. Insert scary noises and lightning sound effects there if you want. Yeah, yeah.

He wrote that he had seen a great flame of fire that crashed into the sea, followed by a strange light that glimmered in the distance weeks later. As he entered the area, he also noted really erratic compass readings, which is a recurring event in the triangle. Many people have those kinds of situations where they're like, uh, compass instruments malfunction unexpectedly, leading them to become very disorientated in the triangle.

Uh, spoiler alert that has a, that has a logical, you know, answer explanation that we'll get to eventually. But for now, suspend your disbelief. That shit was going wacky in the old compass department and Christopher Columbus didn't know what he was looking at. The great flame of fire though. I'm not sure what that could be. Do you guys have any ideas there? Uh, maybe like this, the sun reflecting off the water.

But it was a flame of fire. I don't know. I'm sure the early Catholic Church thought it was like an angel of God descending to guide his way or whatnot. I'm sure they had some ridiculous solution for it. They could rationalize it that way. Yeah, yeah. Oh, it was Gabriel going to lead the great conquest or whatever. Something like that. I actually think it could potentially be like a meteor crashing into the ocean. That's the only thing that I could think of that would like

That makes sense, because they didn't have airplanes that time. Almost as illogical as the angel one there. I know. It would be so unlikely. But this is Christopher Columbus. He's the fucking main character, dude. He discovered America. Sadly, there were a bunch of dinosaurs in the new world, but as Christopher was arriving, the meteor wiped him out. Just missed him. Tragic. What else could it be? There's like no planes that could crash.

Well, yeah, like I said, it's probably just something reflecting off the water that he thought was fire. Like, I don't think it was an actual fire pillar that rose from the ocean. That's how it was described. Roroborealis. I feel like he would, he was surrounded, he was a nautical expert. He was on ships all the time. I'm sure he would know what the glint of the sun on the ocean looked like. Maybe it was just like really groggy after waking up from a nap. All right. It was, yeah, it was all those smallpox. It was getting to him.

Um, so also anecdotally, this is interesting. His first voyage was the only one that passed through the bulk of the triangle with his second, third and fourth voyages to the new world. Instead traveling along the interior of the Caribbean sea. Was he too afraid to travel back through the triangle? Probably not. I think he probably just went the safer route. I think you should. No, I think you should say that he, uh, he was afraid. Why was it safer? Huh? The Bermuda triangle. Yeah.

I don't know anything about boating or like sailing, especially not in the 1400s, but I would imagine the safest way to like do that is along coastlines, right? Not over open ocean. I would say the safest way to do it is to not sink.

So, yes. I would think the safest thing to do is take the shortest path there. So if it was along the coastline being shortest, maybe that, but I don't know. Okay, well, that doesn't work because the other voyages are longer because they went along the coastline. He might just be bad at what he does. Maybe he just wasn't very good. Or maybe those were the voyages where he actually discovered South America as well. And that's why they have Columbus Day down there, probably. I don't know.

Yeah, he was probably looking for different locations each time that he did. Yeah, that's true. A lot of it was trying to map it. That probably makes the most sense.

Yeah. All right. So yeah, Columbus was like the first kind of written, you know, documentation we could find based around the Bermuda Triangle. Stuff happening in the Bermuda Triangle. He didn't refer to it as the Bermuda Triangle at that point. He didn't know there was a triangle there. He didn't have the information that we now have. He just thought it was a weird area. What a fool. Basically, stuff happened. Happlessly traveling to the triangle. Absolute idiot. Yeah.

1609, ship named SeaVenture was built. It was the flagship of a convoy that was built to voyage to Jamestown, Virginia to help revive the colony there. Led by Captain Christopher Newport, the ship had around 150 passengers and a crew aboard. It left port on June 2nd and was the largest fleet that England had sent across the Atlantic Ocean to the west at the time, consisting of nine ships and around 600 passengers, livestock, and provisions.

Many of the passengers on board were skilled workers, carpenters, fishmen, masons, volunteers who had left Europe for the potential that America held. Did you say fishmen or did you say fishermen? It sounded like you said fishmen. I definitely said fishmen. Too much One Piece, I guess, yeah. Yeah.

On July 24th, the fleet, merely days away from their final destination, was hit by a massive hurricane. The sea venture became separated from the group with waves over 30 feet bombarding the ship endlessly while torrential winds tore at the sails. The ship, understandably, developed severe leaks and started taking on substantial water. The crew fought a losing battle against the rising water for three days until their motivation had been depleted with one sailor saying that they were...

commending our sinful souls to God, committing the ship to the mercy of the gale. That's so fucking badass. That's such a badass line to go out to. If that's going to be your final line. What did he mean by sinful souls though? What were they doing on that boat? Well, everyone was sinful. Everyone is sinful. So it was just one of those things like we're being punished and then he gave a salute as the ship sank.

Yep, gotcha. The crew of the Sea Venger had accepted their fate, but by pure happenstance, they drifted to an uninhabited, or to an inhabited island, Bermuda. It was rumored to be haunted, and a passenger on the ship, William Strachey, wrote that they had found it to be the dangerous and dreaded land.

This is from William. It's like reading a fucking statement from a child.

Okay, you have to read it in a pirate voice, Charlie, or it doesn't work. It's old English. It's stupid English. It's like that clip from that kid who's like, have you ever wanted to, have you ever needed, but you never, but you wanted to do it so bad you'd do anything? Put the pirate accent on it. All right.

Do it.

And it pleased our merciful God to make even this hideous hated place both the place of our safety and the means of our deliverance. Did that not feel better? Tell me. Yeah, it felt better. Cool. Thank you. Okay. I like how they spell their words, though, like safety. They spell it like your Australian slang.

Yeah, that's why I connect with it so much. We never grew out of that stage. I think this is technically getting close to early modern English, but middle English, there was a lot of double Ls, there weren't a lot of Ys, it was IEs, stuff like that. A bunch of different conventions and spelling. Yeah, the progression from old English to modern day English is a very lengthy conversation.

Kind of transition and you see it in a lot of words that eventually like you can see it in a lot of these words like safety spelled s a f e t Ie is like yeah, I can see where they're going with that eventually they'll get there. Yeah, and Old English is like unreadable like yeah, it's closer to German than English. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I think it has its roots in like Germanic or whatever mmm English is a Germanic language. Yeah, yeah and

Despite this, the crew fared well at Bermuda. Food was plentiful and there were no dangerous animals that they had to worry about. They were able to fish, hunt, and collect water and began to build houses and boats. This is, ironically enough, the complete opposite of the other ships that arrived at Jamestown sick. They had abandoned much of their supplies due to damage from the storms. The mortality rate was 80% and they even resorted to cannibalism.

Those are the people at Jamestown, by the way. And Jamestown is like the very first English settlement in America, correct? I think. Yes, correct. Yeah. And so when the Brits sat down there and set up their little establishment at Jamestown, shit didn't go so well for them. 80% mortality rate. They had to have supply chains running back to kind of repopulate it. And that's what this little trip was initially. And that fared pretty poorly as well.

In mid-1610, Captain Newport and fellow castaways hopped on boats that they had crafted out of Bermuda cedar and parts from the Sea Venture wreckage and set sail. When they came across Jamestown, they quickly realized that it was not worth saving.

Imagine like crashing on a deserted island working for like two years to repair your boats to like set to the final destination you show up and somehow they like they were worse than what they had come from like you're like oh fuck I want to go back to the future That's also insane like you're in Jamestown like well at least rescue will be here soon and then these guys show up on like reed boats and rafts like don't worry the cavalry is here Finally help

They built their Bermuda Cedar. They could build their houses out of that. They gathered those who had survived and ventured to Newfoundland where they came across Thomas West who went on to serve as the first governor of Virginia. He was able to bring a year's supply of food meaning everyone then returned to Jamestown. Yeah.

I like how that's written actually that they just came across Thomas West he's just out of the woods and he saved the day. It was just an NPC that was wandering and they just happened to cross his pathfinding. Oh hello there.

I hear you're in need of this. Oh, come save the day. I have a year's worth of supplies, traveler. Like the excerpt written by Williams above, some of the crew wrote about their experience on the sea venture and all that occurred in the Bermuda Triangle. Williams, however, became quite popular in London's literary scene. The story is said to even influence William Shakespeare and his work, The Tempest. That would check out. Yeah, so...

Even early on, the Bermuda Triangle was kind of impacting culture through Shakespearean tales such as The Tempest. And it's kind of obvious why these situations would go into color, the more mysterious elements. Because shipwrecks, ship disappearances and stuff, happened very commonly in that area. And people were attracted to that idea of danger and stuff in terms of literary work and stuff like that.

So pretty obvious why it would go on to kind of become a, you know, it would proliferate in that kind of way. So from there we are onto Ellen Austin and the mysterious ghost ship. And this is when, so like, yeah, bad stuff was happening with sea travel through the Bermuda around that time, but all sea travel, bad things were happening. It was like, sure. It was a science, but it wasn't good science. People died a lot. But yeah,

In 1880, that's when kind of, you know, humanity or like at least the culture within the New World is settled enough that people are beginning to kind of make stories out of stuff, recognize anomalies. So one of the first main cases of the Bermuda Triangle is in 1881 when Ellen Austin or the Ellen Austin, a 210 foot long ship, was heading towards New York from England. The voyage was helmed by the experienced Captain Griffin.

Near the Bermuda Triangle, the ship came across another smaller vessel. Looking through a spyglass, Captain Griffin observed that the ship had no identifying flags and no crew.

understandably he thought it was a trick by pirates and decided to steer clear of the ship pirates were like a super common problem during this time so maybe pirates were like all hiding under the ship or they had wrecked the ship and was using it as bait waiting for you know them to come either way he wants to get out of there

Pirates of the Caribbean is a true honest to God story. It is. Not really, but it was obviously, it took inspiration from the piracy problem in the Caribbean at the time. That was a legitimate thing, a legitimate concern for ships traveling through the area. Yeah, absolutely. And the spooky skeletons as well.

The spooky skeletons were there and the curse of the black pearl is real is what I was trying to say. You best start believing in red threads, Ms. Swan. You're in one. There you go. I told you the pirate voice was fun. During a lot of our esports watch parties, I use a lot of stupid fucking lines from a bunch of movies and one of them I always settle on is that fucking line from Barbossa.

It's such a good line. It is such a good line. That's a great line, and the line, you're off the map, Jack, here there be monsters, that's so good. Another one I do is, we name the monkey Jack.

Those are the first three. Sure, the first is the best one, but all three of those movies hold up. Yeah, they do. It was a good trilogy. Yeah, they're good. Everything after that is dog shit, though. I actually hate the movies after that. Yep. Terrible. Sure, absolutely. But the original three, good stuff. Yeah. Was the third one the one with the giant water sinkhole? Am I remembering that correctly? Yes. The finale, they're fighting in the whirlpool. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was awesome. It's good stuff.

Anyway, the real pirates. But days later, the Schooner was still just drifting listlessly close by. The captain, now sure that there was no possible way that the pirates were this dedicated to the Gambit, decided to search the ship. They found no one, and the logbook was missing. There was, however, valuable mahogany wood on board that they claimed, along with the ship itself.

Griffin put some of his best crew on board to manage the ship, and the two sailed together until they were separated by a storm. So they were the true pirates, they just took over the ship and took it for their own. Well, if it's been three days and no one's there, it's clear that the crew abandoned the ship or something. No, people could come back, maybe they sent a little sailboat away, and they were just going to come back eventually and take it back. Yeah.

still set well it wasn't anchored so it'd be hard to find it again well you get your 48 hour like decency period or whatever then it's fair claim finders keepers yeah the pirates code uh a few days passed and captain griffin spotted the ship again but as he inspected the ship from afar he noticed that the crew that he had put on the ship were all completely gone oh that's fun

He reluctantly placed another, now well-armed, crew on the ship. They were to stay side by side and ring bells to each other periodically.

he didn't give the other guys guns or anything to defend himself on the spooky pirate ship well i mean how often on the sea do you need guns when you're right next to a ship that does have guns we just established that there were pirates around okay yeah but you're right next to the command ship it's like okay we're on our way back now like you wouldn't think and maybe they had a maybe they had like a flintlock on them or something but now they're actually like they have rifles presumably right yeah actually this is 1881 percussion cap revolvers would have been standard i'm

I'm thinking older. They had like actual rifles, potentially. No, he gave them wooden sticks. That was his idea of what he wanted. Maybe. Paddle boards. As darkness fell that night, fog developed so thick, the ships lost sight of each other. And then the bell stopped ringing. Griffin continued hoping to hear the reassuring sound of the other ship, but it never came. In the morning, the Ellen Austin was all alone. Aww.

This story is an old one, and there are many discrepancies and variations in its telling. Brian Dunnings writes in his article, The Mystery of the Ellen Austin, that in the Lloyd of London, an insurance company dating back to the 1600s, insurance record that there were actually zero casualties in the voyage of the Ellen Austin, and that everyone arrived in New York safely.

Even though it is possible that they came across a derelict ship, there isn't any real recorded evidence in any contemporary or believable documents. Now, I'm going to ignore that fact because I think it's cooler if any crew put on the ship disappears.

yeah i um yeah fuck the fuck the uh what was the insurance company's name the lloyd of london they don't know what they're doing in london yeah yeah they just want to they want to protect their bottom line they didn't want to pay out the insurance probably there you go now you're now you're thinking now you've got your red thread brain on there you go yeah when should we ever trust insurance companies that's like rule number one of red thread fucking insurance companies world number one don't trust insurance companies world number two jeffrey epstein uh connected to everything he was on that ghost ship he

He was on the ghost ship, exactly. He was smuggling that day. Yeah, I love this story. This is probably my favorite story, even if it is a story, which I fully believe that it's real. It's so fun. I love the idea of ghost ships and stuff. Yeah, it's cool. That's always a cool concept. The idea of every time you put a crew on there, they disappear. That's awesome. Yeah, keep doing it.

Let's see how many we can lose. It's like it could be like a ghost thing or like an alternate reality thing. Like there's a lot you could do with that. That's a fun story. Or they went insane and jumped overboard for some reason. Yeah, yeah. There's so many different ways you could take it. That's great.

Or they were pirates hiding in the floorboards, maybe. And then they came out. Yep. Oh, they're in the walls. That's fun. We're going to take a quick moment to hear from our sponsors, and then we'll get right back to the next Bermuda Triangle event. Who, to clarify, are not pirates. No. No. They're good people.

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The USS Cyclops. It's the disaster that remains the biggest non-combat loss of life the U.S. Navy has ever experienced, and it took place in the Bermuda Triangle. When the United States declared war on Germany, the USS Cyclops and other similar ships designed for moving coal fell under the reins of the Navy. On January 9, 1918, the USS Cyclops departed from Norfolk, Virginia, en route to Rio de Janeiro to transport supplies between the ports in a fairly standard routine operation.

The ship arrived at Brazil on the 28th of January, staying for two weeks to resupply and conduct maintenance. On the 15th of February, it departed with 309 people on board heading to Bahia, Brazil, which was the only intended stop at the port before it arrived back in America at Baltimore. It arrived in Bahia and then departed on its final leg of the journey home on the 22nd of February. However,

However, the ship made an unplanned stop in Barbados due to the water level being over the safety limit on the vessel, potentially due to overloading through the investigations in Rio determined that the ship had been loaded and secured properly. On March 3rd and after that point, they seemingly vanished. Those upon the ship were never seen again, their fates still unknown to this day.

Yeah, as far as I know, no wreckage has been found or anything. They just completely disappeared. And it is the great, like was said, it's the greatest non-combat loss of life in the US Navy. And it took place in the Bermuda Triangle, boys. What does it mean? It means probably something with aliens and the occult.

There you go. That we got him, boys. It's the only thing that makes sense. Though, reading Jackson's propaganda, the most obvious answer is that submarines of the Imperial German Navy, known to operate in the West Indies, sunk the ship, but the German Navy denied any involvement or having ever seen the ship both during and after the war. I trust them. I take their word for it.

I get after the war when we're kind of friends with Germany. Well, this was World War I, so we weren't really friends after World War I. We were not friends with them for a while. But yeah, why would you take their word for it during wartime? They're like, no, we didn't do that. Honor. It's an honor thing. Did you do it? And you say, no, I trust you. Yeah.

Reports indicate that a violent storm swept through the Virginia Capes area somewhat close to where the ship was meant to be traveling at the time, which could have contributed to an already precarious situation such as the ship being overloaded or having engine trouble. An extensive naval investigation concluded, however, many theories have been advanced, but none that satisfactorily accounts for her disappearance.

Yeah, so even the Navy was like, aliens. It's gotta be aliens. This report was written before two of the Cyclops' sister ships, the Proteus and the Nereus, also vanished in the Bermuda Triangle less than a year after their sale to civilian operators during this time period. Yeah, it was around the same time. The disappearance of the Cyclops, to me, wasn't too wild because, as we said, ships crash

Not often, but they crash, you know. They crash sometimes. So it's like entirely possible that they just, you know, crashed. But then two of its other ships also disappeared in the same area around the same time. That's strange to me. Both ships were transporting heavy loads of ore similar to what the Cyclops held on its final trip.

Rear Admiral George Van Doer suggested that the loss of the Cyclops could be due to structural failure as the sister ship suffered from issues where the I-beams that ran the length of the ship had deteriorated due to the corrosive nature of the cargo. I can't remember what they were carrying. Acid? Just straight up vats of acid? No, it wasn't coal, I don't think. It was something other than... Oh, it says it right here. Manganese ore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know what manganese ore is.

Furthermore, in 2009, an expert from Lloyd's, yes, the same Lloyd's as the previous notable incident, investigated the loss. They concluded that the manganese ore, which was much denser than coal, had room to move within the holds even when fully secured and that the other ore became a slurry when wet. As such, it was determined that the load could shift and cause the ship to list.

Combined with the storms in that area at the time, it's possible that engine failure and the propensity to list due to the cargo created a situation that the Cyclops and her sisters could not escape from. Huh. So it's entirely the cargo that fucked them?

Yeah, because all three of those ships were carrying the same kind of ore. And obviously they were the same ships, so they had the same structural failings. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So that's the most likely situation. If it wasn't the German Navy... Then it wasn't aliens. Then it was probably that. Well, we haven't ruled out aliens, so we don't know. Also, on screen at the moment, and for audio listeners at home, there's a picture on screen at the moment of the intended route, and you can see where they...

Where they disappeared, and it is in the Bermuda Triangle, for sure. Yeah, I mean, that one's a pretty interesting one. But next, we have Flight 19, which is our very first aeronautical... Is aeronautical space, or is that sky? I think that space is... No, aerospace is space, right? Right.

Aeronautical is over water. Yeah, I think it's got to be aeronautical is over water. Oh, well then it's perfect. I meant what I said. Very first aeronautical situation with Flight 19. On the 5th of December 1945, a routine flight training exercise was being carried out by five TBM Avenger torpedo bombers named Flight 19. Wait, wait, hold on. Okay, it seems that in actuality aeronautical is just anything to do with flying. It has nothing to do with water.

What the fuck is the nautical part of it then? So nautical, to my understanding nautical means like adventure or voyage. Navigation, okay. Yeah, yeah, so like that's why, but it also does mean water. I don't know. Aeronautical just means planes, okay? So it's correct either way, but yeah, sure. We'll tackle that in an episode of Red Thread. Conspiracy.

Yeah, so this was like a flight, you know, a collection of planes flying together in a military operation or military training operation anyway. So they departed from U.S. Naval Air Station in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. That's a place near Tampa, isn't it? Or is it on the other side? Other side? Wait, is it? No, Fort Myers is the one on the other side. Never mind. Yeah, I think it's near Tampa. I don't know. Charlie? I have no idea.

You don't know where Fort Lauderdale is? Don't you live in Florida? I do. No one goes to Fort Lauderdale. Fort Lauderdale is like a fucking ghost ship here. It has to be on the Bermuda side. It has to be on the Bermuda side. It is. It's on the East Coast. Yes. It's not on the Gulf. It's on the East Coast. Yeah.

Fort Myers is the one that's on the Gulf side. Yeah, that's right. The Texas side, right? Yeah, yeah. They departed from U.S. Naval Air Station in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, and were to execute navigation problem number one, which is what they called the operation, which is a hilarious name, which was to fly east from the Florida coast and conduct bombing runs on the ocean.

They weren't expecting any bad weather. Wait, maybe that's why fucking like ships were going missing at the time. The US military was just dropping bombs on them. Hold on. They were conducting... This is after World War II. I mean, it's very shortly after World War II. Yeah, it ended in April. So what were they bombing?

Well, I mean, what do you mean? It was a training exercise. Oh, it's a training exercise. Okay, I'm sorry. I forgot that word. I'm like, wait, what are they? Eight months after the war, what are they attacking? They would still be training a lot after World War I. It's not like there was immediate peace. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were still training exercise. Makes sense. Yeah.

Plus, we've got to keep up the mysterious element of the Bermuda Triangle. Drop some bombs down there, crash some ships, word gets out, the east coast of America becomes a very popular spot. Hold on, hold on. To save my credits, the war in Europe ended April. The war in Japan ended in September. I know that. I'm not just for the audience who... Japan's pretty far away from Bermuda. I need to keep some level of reputability. Continue. Yeah.

Okay, so they were flying east from the Florida coast and they were conducting these bombing runs on fishermen. They weren't expecting any bad weather and Lieutenant Charles C. Taylor was the flight leader. He was an experienced aviator with around 2,500 flying hours under his belt as well as experience in World War II air combat. So he served in the military during the time of war and he had experience in that. He was a very, you know, skilled pilot.

I think that's pretty obvious. Everything was going as planned and the practice bombs were dropped without a hitch. As they began the second leg of their journey, Charles sent a message to the Fort Lauderdale flight tower saying, quote, we cannot see land. We seem to be off course.

End quote. The tower tried to establish where they were to no further response. Charles wasn't squawking back. After 10 minutes of silence, however, Charles was again able to communicate with the tower. Quote, We can't find West. Everything is wrong. We can't be sure of any direction. Everything looks strange, even the ocean.

End quote. Which is a very mysterious message to receive. After another 20 minutes of silence, the flight tower found out from intercepted transmissions that for some unknown reason, the flight leader turned his command over to another pilot. Then a hysteric voice sent a message, the last ever heard from flight 19, which by again was a collection of planes flying, you know, in the same direction. Yeah.

So, quote, we can't tell where we are. Everything is can't make out anything. We think we may be about 225 miles northeast of base. It looks like we are entering whitewater. We're completely lost. What is whitewater? That's when the waves are like really fierce over like open ocean, right? Is that what whitewater is? I've never heard that term. Oh, actually, no, I've heard it from whitewater rafting.

Yeah, what does it mean in this? Looks like we are entering white water. I took that to mean like we're not coming back to base. We're somehow over the open ocean. A stretch of water with a broken foamy surface as in rapids.

Weird. Light color sea water, especially over shoals or shallows. This is funny because it's three guys who know nothing about like ocean stuff. Like, what do you think this means? Well, I do know about how not to get lost. You go in one direction for a long time until something comes up. Bunch of fucking idiots. Not true. As you're about to see, that is what led to their downfall, in fact. Damn. Shit. They should have never listened to my command.

What do you think? They've got enough fuel to fly all the way to like Iceland? Yeah, like if you just get like moderately lost, just like pick a direction and just keep going forever. That works when you're not constrained by like fuel. Yeah, just use like the infinite gas cheat code. There you go. Those things have wings, they can glide. That's the whole point. If you have like no navigational skills, that is the tip for if you're like lost in a national park or something, I assume.

mm-hmm because one of the worst things you can do is like walk around in circles right in the in the united states aside from yellowstone there is nowhere in the country that you cannot walk for 40 miles and not hit a road damn wait that's a fucking crazy tip i've yes i've i've heard that before it may be 30 i'm pretty sure it's 40 miles but yeah you have to you will hit a road 40 miles in every direction aside from yellowstone

Regardless, there's probably a lot of roads that are just as long and empty as the forest themselves. So you might not be... You might still be walking for a long time on the road. Oh, sure. But there's some sign of civilization. Yeah, civilization. And you're not just walking around in circles in the woods. Regardless, that doesn't help in the ocean anyway. You've got nothing to go on other than landmarks and your instruments, which were not working at this time, it seemed, because they talked about...

how we can't be sure of any direction. And they have, you know, mechanical compasses and stuff like that in the aircraft, which we've discovered the Bermuda Triangle does not cooperate with very well.

Shocked into action, though, two PBM Mariner flying boats were sent out on a rescue mission. They headed for the last known locations and checked in with the tower 10 minutes into their flight and then nothing. They also vanished. These two PBM Mariner flying boats that were sent out to save the flight, they also vanished.

An extensive search was carried out for days with the Coast Guard, Navy and Navy aviation personnel. They searched 250,000 square miles in the Atlantic and Gulf waters, but they came up entirely empty. No wreckage was ever found. 27 lives were lost in total that day in flight 19 and the rescue mission. An investigation was launched, but nothing conclusive was ever found. But we do have the 500 page investigations and, uh,

From the Navy. And it returned the following observations. These aren't anything that concretely determine what happened, but they're observations from the Navy. So bullet point number one. Flight leader Lieutenant Charles C. Taylor had mistakenly believed that the small islands he passed over were the Florida Keys. Were they? They're at the bottom of Florida, right? Yeah, they're off the bottom. They're like the little islands down there. They like tail off the very bottom of it. Yeah.

So he believed that he may have been over the Florida Keys, that his flight was over the Gulf of Mexico and that heading northeast would take them to Florida. However, he was off the, you know, he was west to Florida. So doing that meant that he was just traveling northeast into open stretches of the ocean, which is why he was so confused.

It was determined that Taylor had passed over the Bahamas as scheduled, and he did in fact lead his flight to the northeast over the Atlantic Ocean. The report noted that some subordinate officers did likely know their approximate position, as indicated by radio transmission stating that flying west would result in reaching the mainland, but they couldn't determine where west was, which is awful. Man, that's a hard spot to be in. Yeah.

The next bullet point, Taylor refused to change the radio training frequency to the search and rescue radio frequency. In parentheses, the training frequency was difficult to use because of interference from Cuban radio stations and also a radio carrier wave. So that's why they were having the radio issues was because they were getting a lot of interference from...

other just, you know, noise across the, across the network, across the frequency. And he, for some reason didn't change to the search and rescue radio frequency. It wasn't determined why that was.

Third point though that they made was Taylor was not at fault because the compasses stopped working, which is a very important element of navigation. Yeah, it's not like he was like, "No, I feel like I should go this way." None of their navigation was working. He was making judgment calls. Yeah. Yeah. In a very stressful situation where it was probably pretty hard to determine where you were and your main form of navigation, the instrument, the compass instrument was not working.

Uh, yeah, that was like a very tough situation. And unfortunately he made the wrong decision, but that doesn't mean he's at fault. Uh, and finally the loss of the PBM five. So those, uh, those rescue aircraft was attributed to an explosion. So an entirely different situation, entirely just a very bad day for the Navy. Just an awful situation. The rescue crew going to that same spot and also disappearing is terrifying. Yeah.

Yeah. Because it was two of them. Two of them went out, right? Exactly. It was this initial flight. That's so weird.

Two different planes that go out disappear in rescue for the one that already disappeared. Well, it was more than two planes, right? So, yeah, I think there were five planes in the initial formation, and then two planes were sent out after that. So a total of seven planes went missing all at once in this one little exercise. That's so strange. What the heck? 27 lives were lost just...

two entirely different situations to it sounds like. You know how, you know those stories about like the Japanese soldiers who stayed in like the forest of Guam for 20 years or whatever? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you think maybe there was like a German U-boat? Yeah.

next to Florida yeah yeah just like to the bitter end holding out well it wasn't even that long after World War II it was like seven months it was a couple months well it was a couple months since the war in Japan ended the war in Europe ended in May so it's been like six months since then yep

So, as I said, Taylor likely became disorientated. I think that's the most obvious answer, thinking that he was over the Florida Keys when they were actually in the Bahamas. Due to this, Taylor's insistence on heading what he perceived as west, as pilots departing Fort Lauderdale were instructed to do in the case of disorientation, instead led them northeast farther out to sea and directly parallel to Florida. So, they were just kind of going along the coastline of Florida almost. Yep.

beyond their fuel range. So the most likely situation or outcome of this was they ran out of fuel and eventually deplaned into the ocean. The PBM's explosion, on the other hand, was likely due to its flexible fuel lines getting loose in rough conditions and leaking gasoline, which was a mechanical failure not uncommon in the plane type. So this was something that the Navy was aware of. So they think both of them exploded?

Yeah, I think the implication is one exploded, but they were both maybe in formation and that caused the other to explode. Maybe. Hmm. I'm not sure. Possible, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Regardless, that's what they believe the most likely explanation for that is at 2115. So what's that like 9pm, 915pm? The tank at SS. 1115. No, wait, you're right. I'm stupid. You're right. It is 915. Yeah. Yeah.

The tanker SS Gaines Mills reported that it had observed flames from an explosion at roughly its position, which is probably the PBM's explosion.

So on screen right now, I have a little picture showing the kind of transit route of the Flight 19, that formation. So at the number one point, they leave Fort Lauderdale, drop bombs at the Shoals, which was B, then continue on a heading of 091 for 67 nautical miles. And then number two, they were to turn left on heading 346 and fly 67 nautical miles to

And then number three, which was what was meant to happen on this map, they were meant to turn left to heading 241 to end the exercise north of Fort Lauderdale. But instead, as you can see on the number four bullet point on the map, that's where they ended up at 1750 radio triangulation established the position to within 50 nautical miles of this area, way northeast of their area.

the intended position, I guess you could say. So very interesting, but I think human error. Yeah. Probably. The Bermuda triangle. Now, is this even inside of the Bermuda triangle? Cause isn't the Bermuda triangle South off of Florida? Yeah. This one seems a little too high for the Bermuda triangle. No, I think it cuts into it.

Maybe like the number two spot. I don't know. I'm looking at the map right now. It does in the beginning. The two and the three. The two maybe. The three up to the four is

is out of it i believe i said i think the idea would be like when they crossed the bermuda triangle they got hit with the stupid beam or whatever and they got lost so it led to that's that's what it was that actually that actually is true it killed navigation in the triangle which is what led to them crashing outside of it which i guess we could attribute to the bermuda triangle at the end of the day because their compasses their compasses the navigation went out in the triangle yeah

Yeah, exactly. So still Bermuda Triangle. Actually, this might be the most like actual Bermuda Triangle orientated casualty event so far, honestly. Two days after Christmas 1948, a DC-3 left for Miami from San Juan, Puerto Rico. The aircraft was given the OK to fly, even though it had known electrical problems within its system and nearly discharged batteries. The name of this plane, by the way, is the A. Douglas DST-144. Mm hmm.

It was holding 29 passengers and three crew members. The flight had to contact the San Juan Tower after takeoff to communicate an IFR flight plan, but the tower heard nothing. It was seen that the aircraft was continuing at a cruising altitude, and the plane tried to contact Miami at 4:13 to relay that they were 50 miles south of Miami. This transmission was actually received by New Orleans, which is not in Florida,

Fun fact. I knew that. And then sent to Miami. That was the last that was ever heard from the aircraft. Some think that the plane had gone past Florida and was heading over the Gulf of Mexico. Fuel would have exhausted and with all electrical issues they were having, they may not have been able to contact anyone over the radio.

The aircraft disappeared and nothing has ever been found. Two bodies were discovered on the 4th of January 1949 to the south of Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and some news outlets reported that they were from the missing aircraft. This has never been confirmed. An investigation was opened up in regards to the aircraft's disappearance, but due to the plane simply vanishing and no wreckage being found and no real information being able to be gleaned from anything, they could not determine a probable cause for the loss of the aircraft.

It is really scary, the idea that planes can just disappear. Like, even in the modern age, that Malaysian flight. We still see that to this day. Yeah, the Malaysian airline flight. That's so weird. Yeah. Even with all of our, like, triangulate, like, GPS. Yeah, exactly. We would know. But still, it's possible that you can just vanish off the face of the earth.

Yeah, as long as you're in a plane. You can't do it when you're off the plane. The governments track you to an inch, but when you're on a plane, you may as well be in a different world, apparently. You're in the clouds and can't be seen. You're above the satellites at that point, I think. Yeah, that's definitely how it works. Yeah, I don't know what to make of that one. It probably comes down to mechanical issues with the plane. They were pretty...

Old plane, I think. Well, actually, during the 40s, probably not old, but still, regardless, I think they were having mechanical problems from the reports that I was reading. But it is possible that they lost control of their instruments due to the Bermuda Triangle's spooky paranormal elements.

That's certainly possible. Any thoughts, Charlie? What do you think? To me, it just sounds like it was a navigational issue since their transmission wasn't received by the intended place. They may have just gone too far and just ran out of fuel, as suggested. Wait, you're talking about the last one? Yeah, that's what we're talking about. The Douglas. Did you forget that part? Because their transmission was received by New Orleans, and then they think that it had gone over Florida, heading to the Gulf of Mexico, and then with fuel exhausted, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see what you mean, yeah. I'm a bit confused how they, like, ended up in Cuba, though. The alleged bodies. Yeah, I guess it's... Maybe, like, they... Maybe, like, learning that they're so low on fuel just had them panicking and sending them in different directions. But I think, like, the whole thing was just a navigational problem and they just couldn't correct it. Yeah. Yeah, you're probably right. The Marine Sulphur Queen left Texas on the 2nd of February 1963 en route to Norfolk, Virginia. It was carrying...

That was a big one. Yeah, Rita Triangle's got my sinuses firing. Yeah, he's just thinking about all those lives lost. It's really getting to him. It's a mechanical failure of his nose right there. Yep. I was carrying 15,000 tons of molten sulfur and 39 men. Ha ha ha!

Sorry, that just sounds like the ship carrying a super bomb disappeared for some reason. The aliens need that material. What does molten sulfur even mean? Does that mean it was like melted down into like a bomb material? Like what?

I don't know. I guess you have to move molten sulfur around sometimes. Suspicious that the super explosive boat seemingly disappeared. What?

Everywhere I look online it looks like it's an active like lava. Like it's- Yeah, they're just transporting lava from local containers. And they're wondering what happened to the ship. What is going on? There's no telling what went wrong. I mean it was called- it was called the Sulfur Queen. Surely it was built for that purpose. You'd say. You would hope.

There were no reports of bad weather and there were no distress signals ever sent, but the marine sulfur queen sailed into the ocean and was never seen again. No wreckage was ever found. The whole incident caused a very... Yeah, because it was fucking like vaporized in the explosion. It got de-atomized. It's like Dr. Manhattan from Watchmen just like completely disappeared. Yeah.

You don't say. The investigation found that you shouldn't transport lava via boat. Or at all.

Continue, I'm sorry. The investigation came up with a few reasons the ship was unsafe. It suffered from corrosion, it had a ruptured steam coil in one of its tanks, inoperative automatic temperature gauges, and more. What?

You're transporting lava you don't have working temperature gauges on the thing at least? That was the way when you said the emergency gauge it said there were a few reasons the ship was unsafe. I imagine like the in port checking off like there's not even in containers just lava like going down the stairs of it like all over he's like yeah this checks out to me y'all have a safe travel no telling what goes wrong.

Oh. The disappearance took place in the Triangle, and this was actually the first victim attributed to the Triangle in a modern sense. Vincent Gaddis, the writer to popularize the term Bermuda Triangle, in his article for Argosy magazine in February 1964, mentioned the Marine Sulphur Queen as the first Triangle victim. He wrote barely a year after the ship sank,

With a crew of 39, the tanker Marine Sulphur Queen began its final voyage on the 2nd of February 1963 from Beaumont, Texas with cargo of molten sulfur. Its destination was Norfolk, Virginia, but it actually sailed into the unknown.

Yeah, so journalists or article writers were already kind of concocting this mysterious element of the Bermuda Triangle. This is when it really became kind of like popularized in that sense, this mysterious area of ocean. Even though the disappearances weren't that uncommon in other areas of the ocean as well, they latched onto this one.

Gaddis had no theory as to the sinking and ignored the many realistic explanations the Coast Guard cited and instead ran with a theme many writers after him would continue, these stories played with my writers like Gaddis. My writers. My writers, not my writers. Come on, you...

Use logic. You know what it is. Well, no, that just didn't make it. Okay, whatever. These stories played with by writers with Gaddis are what led to the proliferation of the Bermuda Triangle as a mysterious and terrifying area in culture. Okay, just so people know what happened there, there was a typo in the document. It said played with my writers like Gaddis. Charlie literally is like the Anchorman meme where Ron Burgundy just reads the fucking transcript directly.

So this is in 1967. Dan Burak was cruising through the waterways of the Miami Harbor with father Patrick Horgan. They were in his cabin cruiser named Witchcraft and were out to look at Christmas lights. At 9 p.m. that night, Dan sent out a call for assistance. He was apparently very calm and explained that he had hit something below, but it wasn't an emergency.

I don't know.

Like, how? How is something supposed to be unsinkable? Everything can fucking sink. Well, aren't all boats meant to be unsinkable? Yeah, exactly. Like, that's their entire purpose. As opposed to the popular sinkable line of ships. And whatever happened would have been extremely swift. While many think that they could have fallen victim to paranormal circumstances, really, the damage to the ship may have been much worse than initially thought. I mean, yeah, for sure. That's exactly what it was. The boat was called Witchcraft. Yeah.

I don't know. There's probably still a lot of molten sulfur there. Yeah, leftover from the marine sulfur queen. Just eating away at the surface of the water. Yeah, they hit a lava area. The lava area. There's just lava sitting on top of the ocean. So they're just telling what happened. Why were they transporting lava?

I don't think it's actually, I think the video, the pictures you see is like in the process of making it. Afterwards it becomes like a powder. Why are we making lava? Well, because it becomes a powder and you can use it in like chemicals and stuff. But it's funnier to imagine it as lava on the ship. That's how I want to imagine it. Yeah, that's how I see it. I don't know much about lava.

All right, so the next one is the El Faro, and this is the most recent situation. In October of 2015, an American cargo ship, the El Faro, sailed into a Category 3 hurricane. Smart decision. Yeah, yeah. What could have gone wrong? They were near the Bahama Island, where Hurricane Joaquin was said to be the worst to ever hit the Bahamas.

33 people were on the ship when it succumbed to the weather. The captain of the ship, Michael Davidson, was reported to be a stickler for safety. What ensued ended up being the worst U.S. maritime disaster in three decades. I love the continuation of that sentence. This guy was a stickler for safety. What ensued was the worst U.S. maritime disaster in three decades. Yeah. Unfortunate. Unfortunate.

That's sad, yeah. Before anything could happen, the captain made a call to John Lawrence, the safety and operations manager for the owner of the cargo ship company Tote. He did not sound stressed, and the call was less than a minute long. He simply said that they had a navigational incident, a scuttle popped open on two deck, and they were having some free communication of water go down the three hold. No clue what any of that meant. I don't know what a scuttle is.

I think I've heard this call before. He's basically saying that they had something pop open and there was some water working its way into the bottom of the ship. So they're going to try to get that fixed. But basically something opened up and they're taking on a small amount of water right now. Not something impossible to happen. Yeah.

He assured that everyone was okay, but he wanted to check in and let them know what was happening. This was at 7:00 AM. One minute later, he called the Tote Emergency Center. He was less calm and declared a Marine emergency.

It's crazy how quickly things can change in those kinds of situations from minute to minute. Yeah. Yeah. It goes, it goes from like standard procedure to emergency. Holy fuck. We're sinking. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, look at, look at shipwrecks like the, uh, what was that? The Costa Concordia. Yeah. Like that went from like, oh, we don't know how bad it is to everyone off the ship immediately in like 20 seconds, you know?

Well, wait, the coast of Concordia, wasn't it like they were, they had a lot of time to actually declare the emergency, but the fucking captain and stuff. I'm saying the, the initial like visualization of the injury to the boat, like it went from the crew realizing how serious it was. Then the crew took like 30 minutes to actually tell people to get off because they didn't want to. Yeah. They mishandled it. They should have realized in 20 seconds how serious it was, but they didn't. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

When he was on the call to the emergency line, he asked if they were connecting him to a qualified individual, and the people on the other end said they were, but needed to confirm details. They asked him to spell the ship's name. And stressed, he said, Oh man, the clock is ticking. Can I please speak to a QI? El Faro. Echo. Lima. Space. Foxtrot. Alpha. Romero. Oscar. El Faro. Was he fucking routed through like a call center or something? Yeah, why would they give him like a quiz?

Jesus Christ. Imagine how fucking stressful that would be. He's calling the emergency center. Why are they like, oh, can you spell it? Probably a prank call.

He was getting more and more agitated as it was taking longer to get a qualified individual. He said they had lost the main propulsion unit and the engineers were not keeping it going. Could not keep it going. When he got through to Lawrence, he seemed calm, but gave the heads up that he might push the electronic distress signal. Lawrence tried to give as much information as possible to help on their predicament. Information like the swell, the winds, poor visibility, but it wasn't much.

Do your thing, Captain, he ended the call with. The reply, we're in survival mode now. Those were the last words heard from Alfaro. Jesus Christ. Do your thing, Captain. That's the best Lawrence had for the fucking situation. Oh, good luck out there. Hope it goes well, yeah. Lawrence tried to call back around a quarter to eight, but couldn't reach the ship. Little did he know, it had already sunk.

Creepy. Yeah. Well, they... Yeah, they had, like, normal passengers on board. Wait...

Right? It's a cargo ship, yeah. It's a cargo ship. 33 people were on board, yeah. I guess a couple of them could have dolls, I suppose. No, it says it's 20 miles of floating dolls from a verse container. That's more than just like a travel accompaniment. That's true. That is a lot of dolls. That's a lot of dolls. The El Faro must have been transporting dolls. Yeah, it had to be one of the shipping containers was like a doll. Full of dolls. Okay.

Or it's a spelling mistake and I don't remember what the actual word is. I don't know what it would even... Rolls 20 miles of... I don't know, yeah. Let's go with does. Of does. It was like deer. 20 miles of floating does, yeah. Investigations immediately began. The ship was found upright on a sandy pit more than...

15,000 feet below the surface, man. That's a long way. Yeah, we have no business being in the ocean. They managed to retrieve the recorder, which contained the final 26 hours of conversation among many of the crew on board, and a 496-page manuscript was created.

In an interview with Coast Guard Captain Jason Nauber, he talked about how on the tape there were many conversations between the crew concerned with the hurricane and severe weather that they were heading into, but the captain was confident they could make it through with minimal disturbance. He also said that even though El Faro was an older ship, it appeared that the true severity of the hurricane was the reason that the ship went down.

Yeah, so I think they underestimated the hurricane, and that's what did them in. Especially big ships like this, like, they go through storms all the time. They have to, right? This is the way supply lines work. So it's not uncommon to see a storm and be like, oh, that'll be fine, we can push through it. But it seemed to just be more than they thought. Hurricanes are probably different. That's something that probably does prevent ships from traveling through them, I would have to imagine, right? At least to this degree, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So then did this cargo ship not have any like escape rafts or anything? Because it seems like he knew that it was dire. It seems like he had time. Did they not try and get away? Well, what are you going to do in an escape raft, right? Because now you're just in a smaller boat in a hurricane. Yeah, I know. It's just one of those things where it's like it gives you a chance as opposed to just going down. Well, it's entirely possible that they did try that. We don't know. That's true.

They could have entered those rafts and immediately sunk as well. That is very possible. Sadly, there was no way out of that situation.

And then, so the next thing, we're pretty much done on the events, like the notable events that we wanted to talk about for this episode of things that happened, tumultuous events that happened in the Bermuda Triangle. But let's talk about what the Bermuda Triangle became due to authors writing stuff and people...

just proliferating the more mysterious ideas. So the earliest case of people referring to the area as both a triangle and the Bermuda triangle are in the 1950s. So that's when it was kind of popularized. The Associated Press article titled, quote, or this is the name, the case of the vanishing ships in September 1950 referred to the area as a triangle where ships and planes had disappeared. Another example can be found in a 1952 article in Fate magazine titled, Starlight.

Sea Mystery at Our Back Door, written by George X. Sand. In that article, the term Bermuda Triangle is used to describe the area, though it's unsure for sure if this is the first time it was used. It's just the earliest kind of example of when I could find it used. So it's probably around that time. We're completely unsure if that's actually the first time it was used.

It was previously like I had read that earlier explorers had called it the devil's triangle or something similar to that. So the Bermuda triangle could be a, you know, a continuation of that theme.

In 1973, 10 years after the marine sulfur queen crashed and Vincent Gaddis, that writer from before, popularized the term, a book titled The Bermuda Triangle, The Great Unsolved Mystery of Our Time was published. Written by Charles Berlitz, the book explores the theories surrounding the mysterious area.

This book added fuel to the fire around all of the more bizarre theories about the Bermuda Triangle, bringing to the masses stories and thoughts about UFOs, space-time warps, and how the area may be connected to Atlantis. This book has come under a lot of criticism for how it pushes the more strange theories surrounding the Bermuda Triangle, many call it outdated and

and due to how many copies it sold and how popular it became it thrust the Bermuda Triangle into the height of its popularity with conspiracy theorists so this is really the book that kind of like pushed it beyond just hey this is a weird place where ships sometimes crash like this is just the this is what we're calling the area where all these ship disasters kind of happened to like this this notion that this place is fucking weird you know there's aliens there's Atlantis this this place is wild so this book really kind of you

you know, created that image for the Bermuda triangle. And that was in 1973. And fun fact, um, once you go, Seaworld's Bermuda triangle ride opened up in like 1980, I think. So we were on the forefront of the Bermuda triangle. Coincidence. Coincidence. Yeah. We jumped on that bandwagon real quick.

So now we're getting into the more weird and wacky elements of the Bermuda Triangle with that kind of segway. The more believable elements. Yeah, the more believable elements. Yeah, there you go. Absolutely. Hence the truth. This is about the aliens, of course. Many believe that the Bermuda Triangle is a hotspot for paranormal activity, even going back to the strange light that Christopher Columbus saw. Was that potentially a UFO? And Jackson dropped a YouTube link about a UFO that flies over Miami. Shocking footage.

That's the title. I didn't give it that. That's the title of the video. Let's just watch it real quick. That looks like a UFO to me, guys. Why are you filming the coastline? Film the UFO. What are you doing? He's showing how no one else is seeing this. Oh, there's more of them. What is that?

That's some shocking footage is what that is. I am shocked. Yeah, if we can't show this footage due to History Channel being pricks, it's linked below. You'll be able to find it in the show document. Go check it out. The best part about it is he immediately becomes a YouTube vlogger because he's like, wow, anyway, I'm in Miami, got my crib here, got my boys, we in the city. Oh, they kind of like disperse into different directions at the end there. Interesting. It's irrefutable. Looks convincing to me, so...

It didn't seem- was that over the Bermuda Triangle though? 'Cause it was like the coastline. Miami's right there at it. Yeah, yeah. If that counts, fine. In this video uploaded by History, the proof is out there, Bermuda Triangle edition, there's a featured clip from June 2020 in Miami. Video shows strange light being filmed in the sky. When zoomed in, it's a cluster of six lights, with one brighter than the rest. Then the lights spread apart as five zoom off into space at warp speed.

Yeah, that's what I saw. In 2018, a user on Google Maps reported that he found a UFO sighting in the Big Cypress National Preserve, Florida, just around the Bermuda Triangle area. However, many suggest that this could be a butterfly, half cut off by the camera due to being moving fast, or moving in the way Google Maps Street View is shot. Here's a close-up. I don't know what people are smoking. This is clearly a UFO using some sort of phase-shifting technology, or perhaps some advanced form of...

Lepidoptera cloaking mechanism. Yep. I mean, it speaks for itself, guys. It's clearly a UFO. This is a UFO. Yeah. I can't believe they're so devilish to appear as butterflies now. One of our most sacred creatures. What devils they are. You can tell it's a UFO by the alien little antenna hanging out off of the front. That's true. Alien communication.

all i'm saying is when those guys get here i can't wait to shoot them i'm so excited to shoot an alien because this is what they get using using butterflies against us absolutely not happening that is disgusting shameful shameful acts from the aliens they think they'll get by with that they've got another thing coming they're in for a rude awakening buster

So for audio listeners, though, it's literally a butterfly. You know how Google Maps cars, if you pan forward a lot, a lot of the stuff is cut off because of the shutter speed of the cameras and the movement of the cars. So it's literally just a butterfly cut in half from the shutter. It's just half of a butterfly. Very obvious from the pattern of the wings, but also pretty obvious that it's a UFO.

In 2018, a treasure hunter who was exploring the depth of the Bermuda Triangle claims that he found wreckage of an alien spaceship. Daryl Miklos came across a strange spaceship that had bizarre protrusions. The wreck was found near the Bahamas within the region of the Bermuda Triangle. Daryl says that he used a secret map that was made by a friend of his that used to be a NASA astronaut, Gordon Cooper, to look for shipwrecks. Why was a NASA astronaut making pirate maps? Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know. He's making treasure maps and shit. Maybe it's because he's up in the ISS so he can see all the wrecks from up there. And so he was like coursing it on a map when he got back to Earth. Oh, yeah. Maybe that's probably what it was.

Here's a statement from Daryl.

Certainly nothing I've ever seen based on my experience, and I have years of experience at doing this. We've identified multiple different types of shipwreck material. This doesn't match or look anything like that. And then Jackson's got some pictures here. Doesn't look like a, I mean, it just looks like a coral bed to me, but I'm assuming Daryl's the expert and he's been there. Maybe it looks different in person.

But yeah, it just looks like coral to me. Yep, that does just look like coral. I mean, but to be fair... That's what they want you to... Look, if they're willing to be a butterfly, I think they're willing to be some coral. That is true, yeah. Yeah, I guess their designs would be really foreign to us, but it'd be very weird if they're powered by gas and they need a chimney to pump the gas out.

They need to pump alien gas out. That's what it's for. When you think of UFOs, you don't think of like exhaust pipes or anything like that. Yeah.

But, like, to the benefit of the doubt, because I want to be conspiratorial, like, if a UFO did crash in the ocean and it was there for thousands of years, I guess that's what it would look like with coral growing all over it and you would be barely able to tell what's underneath the coral because of thousands of years of growth. Now you're thinking right. Now you're thinking. Yeah, like that. Yeah. The legend of Atlantis began thousands of years ago in the written works of Plato.

It is an intriguing mystery and the story's founders, half God and half man, the city being a proverbial utopia before it crumbled and sunk into the depth of the ocean forever. The theory of Atlantis is not unique to the Bermuda Triangle. Charles Orser, a curator of history at the New York State Museum, has said, "...pick a spot on the map and someone has said that Atlantis was there."

But the strangeness surrounding the Bermuda Triangle lead many to believe that Atlantis existed there and crashed into its depths. This is mainly come from previously mentioned book by Charles Berlitz, who has said that Atlantis, the eighth continent, was swallowed up by the Bermuda Triangle. Those who believe Charles support his theory that what is called Bimini, yes, Bimini Road, also known as Bimini Wall, an underground rock formation just under a kilometer long, is

The strangely uniform rocks make it appear to be a pavement under the water. There's no other evidence supporting the Atlantis theory, and the Atlantis theory also does very little to explain why planes and ships keep disappearing in the Bermuda Triangle in the first place, unless the Atlanteans are very protective of their region.

Yeah, they've got anti-air cannons down there or something. Taking down all these planes. And then that's really just a listening hub for Agartha and Hollow Earth and all the Germans that made it down there after World War II. And they're still mad. That's why they keep shooting down American ships. Yeah, they're still in World War II down there in Atlantis. Never let the fire die.

Fight the good fight. And then there's a picture here of the Bimini Road. And I mean, pavement. That's what they got from this. It's like a road. That's all there's left of Atlantis. Giant vehicles. Oh, yeah. They had giant underground water tanks. It kind of. Yeah. That idea reminds me of how Atlantis was portrayed in Aquaman. I think that was Atlantis, right? Yeah. The most recent ones. Yeah. That'd be cool.

I mean, if Atlantis is going to be anywhere, I'm putting my, I'm going to, I'm going to put my foot down. It's in the Bermuda Triangle. If it's anywhere.

I don't see that. That's always bothered me because Plato rolled about it and it's an exclusively like Greek thing. So what did it be over there? Like the Mediterranean or like at least off the coast or no, you know, Plato holiday in the Caribbean all the time. My dude, you're right. He was constantly out there. And the aliens suck it. You're right. Why didn't I think of that? What a fool I've been.

He loved the Caribbean. So this is about wormholes and space anomalies. It's something I'm a preeminent expert on. Bruce Jernan didn't believe in any space and time travel until something unexplainable happened to him in 1970. The story goes he was flying with his dad on a route they had flown before when just after takeoff he noticed an elliptical cloud that was lower than he had seen one before.

They kept in contact with Miami Flight Service, who had told them that the weather was good. They decided to press on. As they continued to climb in altitude, they noticed that so did the cloud. Suddenly, it engulfed their plane. They climbed in and out of the cloud for around 10 minutes before they broke free. The sky in front was clear, but when Bruce looked behind, the cloud was now a strange shape, like a giant semi-circle around the plane, which continued beyond what he could see.

Miles. Five miles. I don't know.

It's possible that this was a natural phenomenon known as St. Elmo's fire, which is a reproducible and demonstrable form of plasma. This occurs around some aeroplanes and is created from an atmospheric electric cloud.

They ended up taking a turn and heading south out of the cloud. They thought they might have been able to fly around the cloud, but they quickly realized that it surrounded them. After a few miles of flying, they noticed a pathway opening to the west and turned to try and exit the cloud ring. Bruce said that the top and bottom path joined, creating a hole for them to exit through. They could see a bright blue sky on the other side.

The hole was shrinking, so they increased their speed. They were in the tunnel for 20 seconds before making it to the other side, but they made it. Their electronics and magnetic navigation equipment were malfunctioning, and when they contacted Miami, a radar controller was unable to identify them anywhere in the area they appeared to be in, 45 miles southwest of Bimini.

They had seen blue sky on the other end of the tunnel, but everything was a gray-white haze when they managed to escape the cloud. They could not see the ocean below them. Bruce called it an electrical fog, believing this was what was interfering with their equipment. He used his instincts to guide them back west. They were in the electrical fog for three minutes when the radar controller contacted them, saying they had their location directly above Miami Beach.

Oh my god.

And here's a statement from Bruce.

It should have taken about four minutes to travel through the tunnel since it appeared between 10 and 15 miles long. Instead, this is precisely how long it took for us to leave the storm and reach clear skies. The remarkable thing is that we did not come out of the storm 90 miles away from Miami as we should have. We traveled through 100 miles of space and 30 minutes of time in a little more than three minutes. That's really cool.

He wrote a book called Bermuda Triangle Survivor, and it's this picture of a plane splitting through circular cloud portals. That's a wave, so it's not even true to be his own story, I think. It looks like a wave to me. It's supposed to be a cloud, though. Yeah. But it definitely does look like a wave. Yeah, I mean, that's a pretty cool story, right? Was it made to sell his book, or was it genuine?

What do you guys think? I think it was probably genuine that playful little cloud transported him through space and time. Such a funny story. I mean, not to that degree. I could see maybe like storm winds accelerating a plane, but not to that degree, right? Oh, yeah. I mean, tailwinds definitely contribute to a faster, uh,

But they would notice if they were going like four times as fast through a cloud. I don't think you would ever make that kind of time even with the wind's assistance. I also feel like that would rip the plane apart. Yeah. Like the G-forces alone in that plane would have fucking turned them to paste probably with that speed. They're all sucked into the back of the chair. This little biplane, yeah.

Okay, here's another point, one of the few points against the theory. Why the fuck would there be a wormhole designed only to travel you 30 minutes in distance? Yeah.

It's the Miami wormhole. To get you in and out of Miami quicker, of course. We've also designed to bridge distances between galaxies and the aliens are using it to go from the east of Miami. You know, it would be funny. It would be funny. So there's all that stuff about HAARP, government weather control, that they are trying to manipulate clouds and stuff like that. If the way they tested it was just like...

screwing with random pilots like let's shave 30 minutes off their flight and see if they notice they're just doing that sporadically that'd be pretty funny yeah uh i i love i love the story it's it's hilarious uh potentially drug related i feel like they were hot boxing that bitch those weren't clouds on the outside bro a hot boxing a plane with your boys has to be a vibe like

Just gone in the clouds. The Bermuda Triangle is a preeminent drug spot. People go there to just blast off.

It's true. All right. So then there's a few other like really weird stuff around the Bermuda triangle. One is the methane bubbles. Huge craters were discovered in 2016 by researchers from the Arctic university of Norway, which is pretty far away from Bermuda. And they shared that these were probably caused by underwater deposits of methane. Methane is a highly flammable colorless and odorless gas and can cause massive eruptions. So,

Many have latched onto this idea that methane deposits may have caused the shipwrecks in the Bermuda Triangle. The theory gained so much traction that the researchers themselves had to come out and make a statement that they were in no way making any links to the Bermuda Triangle. That's always my favorite is when conspiracy theorists hound scientists just trying to do like research and stuff to get them to comment on their conspiracy theories and then the scientists actually having to comment on it. It's so funny.

Um, but yeah, I mean, I guess it's a potential answer for some of the, I mean, not really. I don't think so. Yeah. I don't think it's too connected, but regardless, there's, there's methane down there.

Another one, the hexagonal clouds. These are that there are the theories that clouds that hang around the Bermuda Triangle are like air bombs, which could be strong enough to sink ships and strike down planes. Satellite imagery has shown unusual hexagonal shaped cloud formations above the Bermuda Triangle. We've got a picture on screen right now showing it, which according to meteorologist Dr. Randy Kemp.

They're formed by microbursts and blasts of air, which microbursts are extremely dangerous to airplanes, so that is actually a possibility. They shoot planes down, basically, just like these very heavy condensations of air that force planes down. These blasts can be incredibly powerful, reaching up to 170 miles per hour, which could possibly be capable of causing irreparable damage

damage to ships and planes. Which, yeah, I mean, that's a potential, a potential, more believable than the methane bubbles anyway, in terms of something that could cause planes to come down. In every strange story within the Bermudan Triangle, compasses and electronic equipment malfunction. It has been reported that compasses point to the true north instead of the magnetic north. These strange magnetic anomalies have caused theorists to believe this is how many have disappeared in the area.

Wait, so the whole thing about they point to the true north, is that saying there's a north that isn't actually...

Like our north? Is that what that's saying? Well, I think because the magnetic... It points past the Great Ice Wall to the Greater Thule and lands beyond time. So how compasses work, right, is like there's magnetic fields around the Earth and the compasses point to those magnetic fields, which is magnetic north. But then there is a true north, I think. And then they're saying when you're in the Bermuda Triangle, compasses start to point to the true north. I see. I see. Okay.

The Bermuda Triangle is also the home of unruly weather. It is known to be unpredictable, sudden storms, hurricanes, water spouts, and more forming quickly.

The sudden weather patterns can be violent and severe, making it difficult to navigate through and can cause reduced visibility. This also causes extreme rogue waves, which have been documented in the Bermuda Triangle. They're incredibly large and can pose extreme damage to ships, even causing capsizing or sinking. So rogue waves are like...

They're like the tidal... They're like tsunamis. Like what you imagine tsunamis are. Like tsunamis, when they come to the coastline, it's more like flooding, basically. You have this mental image of a giant wave. Tsunamis on the coastline aren't really that. It's like an inundation of water pouring over the land. Just a lot of displacement of water.

I mean, waves can get pretty big, but it's mostly just like a displacement of water. Rogue waves, on the other hand, are those enormous, colossal, fucking enormous waves out in the deep ocean that are just... It looks like a skyscraper coming at you. It's terrifying. They look unreal. Like straight out of a movie, like Day After Tomorrow or something. I was going to say, remember the planet Interstellar where it's just the mountains in the distance? It's incredible.

And you see these really cool videos of cargo ships from the interior deck as they go over these rogue waves and such. And it's just breathtaking. Some of the wildest shit I've ever seen captured. Very, very scary. They're quite rare, but yeah, they're a thing that happens in the Bermuda Triangle quite often, apparently. Not sure why.

I'll take her home with the truth. Aliens, Atlantis, crazy phenomenons, the Bermuda Triangle is a notorious area of mystery and intrigue and has been for a long time. The sensationalized theories around the Patch of Sea have blown up to such a state that many take fiction for fact. So what is the truth?

In 2017, Australian scientist Carl Kruselnicki solved the mystery of the Bermuda Triangle. And there was no mystery in the first place. Everything could fall under human error, bad weather, and heavy traffic flow. Realistically, the area dubbed Bermuda Triangle is a busy area for ships and planes to go through, and the amount of incidents and disappearances is comparatively similar to the rest of the world. He offered plausible theories to many of the events discussed. And...

Oh, and are the hexagonal-shaped clouds really behind the mysteries of the Bermuda Triangle? No. While weird, they are not uncommon. They can occur when cold and dry air combine over warm water, and these patterns happen everywhere. This is what I remember when I looked into this. It was just, this is such a common route that obviously there's going to be a lot of problems there, especially when it is, like, unruly. So it's not, like, that mysterious. It's a path from the west coast... No, the east coast of America. Yeah.

So it's like a popular travel route for like cargo ships and stuff as well as planes. So very obviously things are going to go wrong sometimes there. And like Carl says, the Australian scientists, the numbers of crashes and stuff that happen there aren't higher than anywhere else. Yeah. In fact, they might even be lower, I think.

It's just because where you have such congested traffic is where you're going to have the most accidents. Yeah, you'll see right now in this next paragraph.

Highlighted by Johnny Harris in the video, What's Really Happening in the Bermuda Triangle? The Bermuda Triangle isn't even in the top 10 of the dangerous ocean regions in the world. He also reached out to Lloyd's list for data regarding casualties and incidents on the ocean, where he learned that only 0.02% of the boats that passed through the Bermuda Triangle area had accidents, which was 90 times lower than the global average. Ha ha!

So the Bermuda Triangle might actually be the safest route possible. It's actually the safest area in the ocean. Maybe that's what it is, like a super safe area. And they're trying to keep people away from it so they can have the safety to themselves. That's true. Now you're thinking. There you go. That's a spirit. The Atlanteans are trying very hard to safekeep people's journeys through the Bermuda Triangle.

Lloyd's of London have repeatedly insisted that the Bermuda Triangle is unremarkable and that there are no more losses or disappearances in that area than everywhere else. These are just as many losses as in other wide expanses of the ocean, which was said by a spokesperson back in 1997. Wait, is this the same insurance company that did the ship back in the 1800s? They're everywhere with the Bermuda Triangle. They're covering up accidents.

There's actually 90 times as many accidents there as everywhere else. Yeah. You can't trust insurance companies. I'm telling you, they're hiding something. Rule number one. See rule number one of the red thread. And they had old money as well. They're from like the 1500s. Lloyd's has been around forever. I don't trust them. It's like the East Indian trade company. Yeah. I actually had, before this research, I had never heard of them before. And then we were researching, um,

researching the Bermuda Triangle they came up constantly I was like what the fuck is going on with Lloyd's why are they an expert on the Bermuda Triangle

Yeah, so the magnetic lines of the Earth or whatever shift over time, so...

compasses now work in the Bermuda Triangle so it's lost that charming feature now you can travel there with your compass in hand and still be fine

Experienced navigators compensate for magnetic declination, the difference between true north and magnetic north, and most incidents in the Bermuda Triangle can be attributed to human error rather than compass malfunctions. The area's reputation for mysterious disappearances likely stem from a combination of sensationalism and natural risks associated with navigating busy shipping lanes and air routes.

And back to the video by History on the clip of the strange lights off Miami, they show that the video appeared to be edited highlighting that all stories and situations stemming from this Bermuda Triangle are likely fabricated or blown out of proportion due to the very nature of the mystery that the writers created. Apart from the UFO, that shit is real.

Yeah, the butterfly UFO, that had to be real. That's kind of irrefutable. Yeah, you can't dismiss the UFO, baby. Absolutely real, no question at all. Everything else, I mean, alright, I'm also going to throw in the ghost ship. I believe that shit happened. That ghost, that ship was haunted. I think that's like somewhat possible too, especially during that time period. There's definitely something that could be true there, I guess. Well, true that it actually happened.

Or true that ghosts took over. No, no, no, no. True that there was a ship that got abandoned. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I just find it... I mean, Lloyd's covered for it. They said, no, actually, no one died. Yeah, but that's Lloyd. And we know how... We know what to think of Lloyd unofficially because they probably have eight bajillion lawyers as a joke in Minecraft. Yeah, we know what to think of them. We know what they're up to.

This was kind of like a montage of some very interesting cases. I actually really enjoyed researching this one because it was so varied. I had a lot of fun with a lot of them there. And the Marine Sulphur Queen transporting lava, loved that. There was the whole ghost story, which was really cool.

This is also one of the most classic conspiracy theory creepy stuff ever. Yeah. This one's classic. Have you guys heard any of deeper conspiracies around the Bermuda Triangle that I didn't cover?

Yeah, I've heard that it's like a place that there's like government testing and stuff like that. And if a ship sees something they're not supposed to, they get shot down. I've heard that kind of thing. Yeah, I feel like so with that, I feel like the US government doing that off the shore of one of their most popular ports is probably the wrong idea. Like surely that would have to be... We'll put our super secret base next to Miami. They'll never be there. Yeah.

And right next to our, like, what was historically, like, you know, an opponent to the US and Cuba. Doing all their wormhole travel, of course. What else? That's what Biden needs to run on. Infrastructure improvements via wormholes. I mean, that's obvious. Come on.

I think it was just my childhood brain combining different stuff without realizing there was a difference. But I feel like there was some piece of media I watched that attributed...

Amelia Earhart to the Bermuda Triangle. Oh, yeah. It doesn't make any sense because she crashed in the Pacific. Yeah. But I feel like I saw something that was like flying through messed with her stuff or something. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, I remember that now, too. Now that you bring it up, I do 100 percent remember that. Yeah. And that is one of the mysteries there. Radio transmissions indicated that the instructor got lost when compasses malfunctioned over the Bermuda Triangle.

But she crashed in the Pacific Ocean, didn't she? Well, the idea is that she... Because her whole idea was to circumnavigate the globe. So it's like as she flew through the Bermuda Triangle, that's where she lost her navigation. She caught a virus. And got lost. She got the Bermuda virus. Yeah, there also is directly some theories that say that it's a lie she crashed in the Pacific. Saying that she actually crashed in the Bermuda Triangle. Hmm.

Oh, really? I haven't heard that before. Interesting. But the government was like, she actually crashed in the Pacific. You're safe to travel through the Bermuda Triangle. Was it a cover-up? Is that what you're saying? I guess. I see. I'm just now seeing these. It's not what I believe. All right. Well, I guess we can wrap this up with what do you guys believe?

Uh, uninteresting block of the ocean. It's apparently super safe, actually. So, uh, not, not scary, not mysterious. Statistically, if you're ever going to travel anywhere across the ocean, make sure it's through the Bermuda Triangle because you will have a pleasant time, statistically speaking.

Yeah, I mean, same. I wish there was more information about the ghost ship because I love that part the most. Yeah, the ghost ship's super cool. I think, you know, maybe early on in aviation and stuff, there was an issue with maybe how some of the equipment works, that passing through an area that did use stat magnetic problems threw everything into a fringe, so maybe that led to some lost ships and crashes. But

But other than that, I think it's just if you throw enough cars in one intersection, that intersection is going to have more wrecks than the others. But what I actually mean by all of that is that aliens disguise themselves as butterflies and are working with the Atlanteans from the remaining German soldiers that went to Agartha through Antarctica during World War II and are using it as a listening post and destroy anyone that gets too close. That's what I was trying to say. Yeah.

And don't forget that the butterflies have perfected wormhole technology and they're using it to travel to the beaches during summer, the Miami beaches during summer. Absolutely true. Can't, can't forget that.

Yeah, I mean, that's going to do it for this episode of Red Thread. I think we covered everything and we have proven definitively that the Bermuda Triangle is pretty epic in terms of holiday destination. So book your tickets now. Travel to the Bermuda Triangle. Let us know if you've ever actually traveled to the Bermuda Triangle. Let us know what it's like. I bet it was just like a normal trip, really. It was just an ocean from what we're learning right now.

But yeah, I guess let us know what you think of the Bermuda Triangle. Let us know your theories. Just let us know anything, really. And suggestions for future episodes, we're always happy to hear. Suggestions for what you want to see covered on the red thread. Bermuda Triangle, I feel like, was an enormous one that we were going to get to eventually. And I'm glad we cracked that case wide open and we could see it for what it was.

Other than that, that's going to do it for this episode. You guys got any final words? Nothing from me. Look out for butterflies and wormholes. Look out for them. Very important. And thank you all so much for watching. It means a lot. Yes, thank you very much. We really appreciate it. We'll see you next time. Red Thread out. Bye. Thanks, everyone. Bye-bye. Bye. Watch out for wormholes and butterflies. You can never trust them.