Will The Deep State Allow Donald Trump To Win Again? w/ Mike Benz
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And so would you agree that

Let me finish my thought from earlier that I lost, which was my friend Russell Dobler, who says if Donald Trump is allowed to be elected president again, he will have to rethink everything he thought about the CIA and the deep state because then they're not as powerful as he thought they are now.

I don't think that Donald Trump will be allowed to be president. I had a Harvard professor on my show yesterday or the day before who has found out that Google, which we all know works as a defense contractor, CIA, all that stuff. And his part is part works part in hand in hand with the deep state if they aren't it themselves.

They that they are rigging their algorithms, according to Dr. Epstein, to swing between six million and twenty five million votes. And he says in his analysis, there's absolutely no way that Donald Trump could win the election based on what Google is doing.

And he's figured it out scientifically with data that they can swing votes. And it's not votes like people of me or you. It's the people who are the undecided, which is mind blowing to me that you could be undecided. But so would you agree with Russell Doppler that there's no way that the deep state will allow Donald Trump or a populist like at all to be to become president of the United States ever again?

Well, Google was created by the deep state, if you will, the blob, the foreign policy blob. Back two years before Google was founded, it was a PhD project of Larry Page and Sergey Brin when they were at Stanford, and that project was amazing.

funded by a DARPA grant. That DARPA grant was a joint CIA-NSA program in order to use the aggregated search engine results to track birds of a feather flocking together online so that the CIA and NSA would have a political radar system for the use of the early internet

by foreign political groups or dissident groups that the CIA wanted to back when they were using Web 1.0 and forums and static web pages before social media. And then using that joint CIA NSA program DARPA grant funds, they developed the back page, back rub,

uh, engine and then turned that into Google two years later, the first year Google went public, it became a military contractor. And remember many core Google services are only possible because, because of the CIA or the Pentagon Google maps, for example, was because Google bought the CIA's keyhole satellite technology, uh,

So, you know, there's there's been this relationship between Google and and the CIA, Google and our foreign policy establishment since literally before, you know, before it was born, you know, while it was in the process of getting pregnant. So but but getting back to this issue.

Google does have a small degree of independence, but that gets negotiated by the blob weighing down on it. So you know how I just was talking about the National Endowment for Democracy, this CIA cut out with its board being all these international corporations and banks? Well, in early 2017-

The National Endowment for Democracy, as well as Michael Chertoff, who was the first head of DHS and is this – he was also the chairman of BAE Systems, which is the largest military contractor in all of NATO. It's the UK's equivalent of Raytheon, Boeing, and Lockheed combined. So he and the National Endowment for Democracy research head –

held a conference where they cornered basically the heads of Google and Facebook's content moderation teams at the time for Central and Eastern Europe because that was where this whole – everything from Germany to Ukraine was this big political hot zone after Crimea in 2014. So Donald Trump had just gotten elected. This is early 2017. They get together in a smoky room like the one we just described and I just posted at the top of my feed if folks are interested on X.

In Bratislava, Slovakia. And so this guy who's basically representing the CIA's number one cutout and the guy who's the head of the largest military contractor in NATO get together the Google censorship policy head and the Facebook censorship policy head for those regions. And the caption ahead of the video says,

frames the issue as being unfiltered alternative news is what gave rise to the democratic threats of brexit and donald trump they literally play before the panel starts this big hollywood propaganda you know sort of motion picture film where it's where it shows

It shows the rise of media and it was really good. But then there were JFK assassination conspiracy theories. So things got bad. And then Brexit happened and things – the music gets really dark. And then Trump gets elected. The music starts blaring. It blends to red. And then the next picture is Adolf Hitler. OK? So this is literally the sharp fangs of the CIA and the Pentagon.

And they're saying this is the end of the liberal rules-based international order because after Brexit, we're going to have Frexit in France, Italexit in Italy, Brexit in Greece, Grexit in Germany, Spexit in Spain. The whole EU is going to come undone. NATO is going to come done. So there's no enforcement arm for the IMF. The world is over because people are allowed to shitpost on the internet. This is what the context of this meeting was. But the enemy that they declared, and I'm not –

hyperbolic when I say this. There's a direct quote and I'll post this on my ex account as well. It's unfiltered alternative news because unfiltered alternative news research shows. This is what they said. Research shows unfiltered alternative news is a font for populism, populism,

Populism is the will of the people expressing itself against the democratic institutions. We need to redefine democracy from being the will of the people to the will of these institutions who present the sort of bumper cars on the bowling lane of democracy. And so basically you have the CIA and NATO telling the heads of Google and Facebook censorship teams –

You need to stop allowing populist speech because it's going to be the end of the world and you better do it because this is a matter of national security.

And that's what leads us to the censorious world we're living in. And are you surprised that half the country goes along with it? How easily the Democrats are manipulated because they're told what they're fighting. Oh, Hitler from 1933. Instead of what they are fighting is a TV game show host real estate magnet. That's really what they're fighting. A guy who was.

friends with everybody in the establishment loved Donald Trump up until he won that election. He they gave him his own national television show for 10 years. They all golf together. They all went to each other's third and fourth weddings. Their kids are all best friends with each other. He was allowed to guest host Saturday Night Live. He was and then all of a sudden he was donating to Democrats. He was donating to Democrats. Exactly. So, um,

So can you answer my friend? So if Donald Trump is allowed to. So do you think that they will allow him to be elected again? Because I don't think they will. I think this is all theater that we have a democracy and that that the steep state is no way in hell.

I mean, they've gone through look at all the ways they've tried to rig the election already. Russiagate was a chance to try to rig the election. Right. They then they impeached him twice. That was a chance. That was a way to try to rig the next election. Then that January 6th, which I'm going to talk about in just a second. That was a way to criminalize Donald Trump and his followers as a native with 91 felonies. And then after that, they then hit him with 91 felonies and four bogus charges.

We've never prosecuted an ex-president in the history of our country, even ones that we know committed war crimes and ordered torture programs. And Barack Obama didn't prosecute George Bush for the torture program because he said all those torture crimes happened in the past. And Barack Obama's looking towards the future. I'm glad we're not prosecuting past crimes anymore because that's where I've committed all my crimes, too. But so...

They didn't even bring those prosecutions until Trump announced he was going to run again. That's exactly until 2023. That's exactly right. So do you think that I mean, that's just these are all ways that the establishment is trying to rig this election. And John, do people like Jon Stewart go and Bill Maher go right along with it? What do you think? Do you think that they're going to allow him to become president?

Well, on the first question about whether or not I'm surprised that so many people go along with it, I think both of us, Jimmy, after seeing how people reacted to COVID, I will never again be surprised by the ability of people to go along, to get along for as long as I live. Ask me that question 40 years from now and I'll say I ain't surprised after seeing that. But the fact is, there's...

I do think that in terms of half the country supporting censorship, these are loose beliefs, loosely held or strong beliefs, loosely held. I don't think these are actually strongly held beliefs. I think this is something that is, uh,

under the kind of temporary mania of the huge amount of media muscle that's poured into posing mis and disinformation as a threat to democracy, mis and disinformation as this grave social ill, you know, it's sort of our Delta variant, uh, in the sense that,

I could, free speech still plays a very, very significant role in US statecraft. The very blob creatures who are pro-censorship in America are the first people to pass sanctions on Iran or North Korea or Venezuela if they engage in acts of censorship. So they do need to maintain this kind of strategic schizophrenia about it. But I, and I think that if

if the money for that propaganda apparatus drops away, you will see the people organically sort of

mean revert back to being generally pro-free speech, even if there are some frills or residual hangups about it from the, from frankly, the psychological operation that's been done with this whole new creation of this field of disinformation studies and this, this new sort of professorial class of fake academics who, who present research about, you know, the disinformations, you know, threat to democracy posed by, you know, people doing fitness videos on YouTube.

But in terms of the 2024-- - Can I just say it's funny that the disinformation specialists,

They never have a report about all the disinformation coming from the government. Isn't that wild? It's never the government that's the lie. And we all know the biggest liars and biggest disinformers are the government. Second is the corporate media. And third, a distant third, are randos on YouTube and social media. But anyway, go ahead. Back to you. The 20s are funded by the government. That's right. Almost all of them are funded by the government.

They are the blobs mercenary arm. They are the sort of arms of the octopus, not the brain of it. The National Science Foundation has given over $100 million during the Biden administration to a web of over 60 U.S. universities, all getting money to do full-time, 24-7 internet censorship work.

The Pentagon has spent tens of millions of dollars funding this. DHS has spent tens of millions of dollars funding this. The FBI and DOJ even have counter misinformation programs. HHS, FDA, CDC all have their own misinformation programs that fund the university disinfo labs, that fund the fact-checking organizations.

Poynter and the International Fact-Checking Network, the big umbrella group for all these fact-checkers, has something like 30 different government grants just from the State Department alone.

This is a way to get godlike control over the internal political ecosystem of every country on earth. So not only is the State Department and the CIA cut out web, like the National Endowment for Democracy and USAID funding this at home, they are funding it all around the world because it's a way to rig who rises and falls in Nigeria, who rises and falls in Nicaragua, who rises and falls in India. And it has become an

instrument of statecraft. It's now a tool of our diplomacy toolkit that we used to only have for free speech. Now, it was cynical and self-serving, but I do believe that it is noble in the sense that free speech was a big part of State Department diplomacy. We would pressure foreign counterparts to free their media so that it would be a free and independent media ecosystem, free from government control. It

This would allow our CIA media like Voice of America and Radio for Europe to penetrate the region. It would allow our CIA-backed dissident groups to be able to rise in political power because the state would not be able to suppress them. But that's how we would use sanctions. Just two years ago, we passed sanctions on Iran for its government daring to censor the revolutionaries during the summer there.

Three and a half years ago, we passed sanctions on North Korea for the government censoring journalists there. We do this. This is stock and trade. Now we're doing the opposite. Now we are – we're effectively –

conditioning humanitarian support. It's soft power projection. But on democratic reforms around digital resilience, meaning setting up the censorship infrastructure and allowing the CIA censorship army to swarm into the region. This is what happened in Brazil. This is what happened in the EU. We have formal government programs at state to do this and only this. USAID has the Democracy, Human Rights, and Governance program, which is

That's $50 billion USAID has, and they are spending hundreds of millions of that on full-time censorship work to coerce foreign countries. They even...

In their own documents, they even have advisories on what to do if a country is resisting setting up censorship infrastructure. And they pitch their foreign counterparts, well, listen, if you don't have the legal ability to do this at home or you don't have the political support, simply call it something else. Don't call it counter disinformation. Call it strategic communications.

Call it media literacy. You have a public relations capacity as your election court in Brazil, the TSE. Simply hitch it onto that. Instead of calling it public relations, call it strategic communications. And we'll fold the program under that. They basically not only are committing the censorship crime all around the world, the U.S. State Department is, they are literally coaching all the co-conspirators on how to orchestrate the cover-up. ♪♪

So this was Victoria Nuland, who was second in command at the State Department since pretty much 2000. And she engineered the coup in Ukraine. So she pretty much engineered this war. They've been wanting this war for a decade or two, at least. And they finally got their war. And so she's being interviewed. There was a peace deal immediately after Russia invaded Ukraine. They had a peace deal worked out.

And we've reported this already. I'll just summarize it. They had a peace deal and it was going to, you know, Ukraine would have been much better off had they taken that peace deal that day. In fact, they agreed to it.

And the Ukraine negotiators all said, yeah, this is a great deal. This is the best deal we're ever going to get. And they literally opened champagne. They had ended the war. They had a peace deal with Russia. And it was a great deal for Ukraine. And then what happened? What happened was Boris Johnson was sent to Ukraine by NATO and the State Department of the United States to go warn Zelensky that if he signs this peace deal, they're going to kill him.

And so and in fact, the right wing, the Nazis, Azov Battalion had already guaranteed that they would hang him from a lamppost in Town Square if he declared peace with Russia. So the peace deal was over. Well, here, Victoria Nuland is going to be questioned about that. And here's what she says. There was a story first told by former Israeli prime minister, Naftali Bennett, that that's

Both sides were really close to the end, to the successful end of the negotiations. And then Prime Minister Boris Johnson interfered and stopped. So the Prime Minister of Israel did it gaffe. He told the truth that they were really close. They had a peace deal.

And then they send this guy. He told the truth, the prime minister of Israel. So watch Victoria Nuland's response to this accusation. And she does a thing called duper's delight. So when you're lying of the people who know they're lying, they can't help but smile. So watch her smile all the way through this answer.

Ukrainians prevented Ukrainians from signing the deal. And then Ukrainian Representative Arhami kind of confirmed it. He said in an interview that there was some kind of advice from Boris Johnson to stop negotiating and to win this war militarily. Where is the myth? Where is the truth? Relatively late in the game,

the Ukrainians began asking for advice on where this thing was going. And it became clear to us, clear to the Brits, clear to others, that Putin's main condition was buried in an annex to this document that they were working on. And it included limits on

on the precise kinds of weapons systems that Ukraine could have. Why would she be smiling? This is called Duper's Delight. She's doing it. And what she's describing is she's trying to say, oh, it made sense that we would tell Ukraine to turn down this peace agreement, which would have stopped the slaughter of 500,000 of their people.

It made sense for us to do that because there was a limit on how big their military could be in this peace agreement, how big the Ukraine's military could be, meaning the United States weapons manufacturers couldn't keep selling weapons and weapons of war to Ukraine, so it would cut into their profits.

That's so she's basically admitting that right here. And it's a duper delight. Let's watch the rest of it. After the deal such that Ukraine would basically be neutered as a military force. And there were no similar constraints on Russia. Russia wasn't required to pull back. Russia wasn't wasn't required to have a buffer zone from the Ukrainian border, wasn't required to have the same constraints on its military facing Ukraine. Yeah.

And so people inside Ukraine and people outside Ukraine started asking questions about whether this was a good deal. And it was at that point that it fell apart.

So here is what our friends over at Going Underground said. They go, Victoria Newell admits that she, along with other U.S. officials and Boris Johnson, sabotaged the 2022 peace agreement reached between Russia and Ukraine because of the conditions imposed limiting Ukraine's military capabilities. What she doesn't mention is that the deal would have seen Ukraine retain all of its pre-2022 territory,

with the status of the Donbass to be decided in direct meetings between Vladimir Putin and Zelensky. The agreement would have been guaranteed by powers such as the United States and the UK. Instead, Nuland and the Biden administration and Boris Johnson thought they could wage a proxy war to the last Ukrainian. Again,

against Russia to bleed Russia dry. Now Ukraine continues to lose more and more territory every day, faces a demographic crisis after the deaths of hundreds of thousands of soldiers, and Russia continues to go from strength

to being even stronger. History will see Victoria Nuland as a key architect of the Ukrainian disaster since 2014. And of course, that's not going to be reported that way in anywhere in the mainstream news because again, the mainstream news is controlled by the people who wanted that war so they could profit from it.

people who wanted that proxy war it was the oil companies the military industrial complex the wall street those are the people who actually control the military the pentagon and the cia the nsa and uh the department of so mike did you what would you like to say what else can you say about this

Well, I just posted to the top of my X timeline if people go to at Mike Ben Cyber. And, Jimmy, I just tagged you on X if you want to take a look at it. In fact, if you want to pull this image up on screen, it's quite a doozy because you nailed it right on the head about Victoria-Newland. And if we're doing this for oil and gas, you'll see the image at the top of the timeline is Victoria-Newland.

In December 2013, just 60 days before the US and CIA and Brits jointly overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine. So just two months before – yeah, if you just go to Mike Ben Cyber on there. Yeah, you see that picture? If you just – yeah, if you just open that and then – yeah, if you just full screen it so that people can take it in. So this is the – this is our US embassy.

two months before we overthrew the government of Ukraine in 2014. And the event that Victoria Newland is speaking at is sponsored, literally the State Department sponsored by ExxonMobil, the largest oil and gas company in the world, and Chevron, the number two. Now, a little bit more detail on this. Chevron had signed in 2013 a $10 billion gas deal with Naftogaz, the state-run Ukrainian energy company.

And they were doing this play that I call the Grand Ukraine Energy Play, which was for NAFTA gas to go from Ukraine's state-owned gas giant to being privatized, sold off to Western stakeholders. This is the sort of shock therapy we put Russia through in the 1990s and that the IMF does whenever we carve up a country who becomes our vassal state.

So Chevron had made a $10 billion investment. ExxonMobil had invested billions. And Shell, the London-based oil and gas giant, had also invested $10 billion, all into Nafta gas, all in this 2012-2013 period. And the then president of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych, refused to agree to the US-pitched trade deal, the IMF-pitched trade deal that involved privatizing Nafta gas.

So as soon as he reneged on that agreement, we activated our rent-a-riots. We January 6th them out of office. Now, Victoria Nuland at this speech that with the image on screen, this was the speech where she bragged about how the U.S. State Department and USAID had flooded Ukrainian civil society, which means when she was referring to the right sector mobs and the civil society institutions who essentially put all these people on payroll so that they're dependent on them.

So American taxpayers paid the CIA mafia $5 billion, and she's bragging about that in front of signs for ExxonMobil and Chevron, who happen to be the chief beneficiaries of the regime change. Now, getting back to what happened after that, because the CIA and NATO were not expecting this countercoup when the Donbass broke off and Crimea voted to join the Russian Federation in an independent referendum. When that happened,

We lost even before. This is why Newland would not agree to this deal, because the military invasion of Russia in 2020, 2022 is not good enough. The issue was, is after 2014, the Donbass was still a breakaway state. And guess where all of the gas, all of the shale reserves are in Ukraine? They're in two places, one.

One of them is the Donbass on the east side of the river there. There's the third largest reserves of shale in all of Europe, and it's almost totally unexploited. And then the second largest reserves are right off the coast of Crimea. So when both of those places became not Russian in 2014, but not Kiev, Ukraine, they were the breakaway state of Ukraine.

All of the tens of billions of dollars of investments, $30 billion worth of oil and gas company profits went to donuts because how can the government of Kiev exploit the shale and the Donbass when it's being militarily occupied by the breakaway state? How is it going to get its oil rigs up and running, its gas rigs up and running?

off of Crimea when it's under Russian protection. So they needed to, this is why we were funding, the CIA was so involved in the paramilitary reconquest of the Donbass from 2014 to 2022 that Russia came in and tried to stop because 18,000 Ukrainians in Eastern Ukraine were murdered by Donbass.

Kiev's paramilitaries, which were all getting arms from the CIA and training from British intelligence. So it's not good enough simply to reset the lines back. If the $14 trillion worth of natural resources and the billions of dollars worth of oil and gas deals, they sponsored them. Remember, while this was happening, Trump got into office in January 2017. Do you remember who he made his first Secretary of State? It was the head of Exxon.

Yeah, it was Rex Tillerson, the chairman of ExxonMobil. So they took out the middle. There's no middleman anymore. We just put him right in charge of the state. Right, but it's exactly what we're saying is, you know, what is, you know, the State Department is, it's like the State Department, CIA, DOD, they are the executioners. You know, it looks like it's the government doing this because they're the ones who, they're the last face you see before everything goes dark. But

The analogy that I give is it's sort of like the Sopranos, the furio, the thug who comes in and debt collects for the Soprano family. A lot of people see this government abuse and they think the government is out of control. Now it is, but the fact is it's not Victoria Nuland.

running this. She's a part of the Kagan family and that whole neocon war industry, energy industry, chamber of commerce, mafia. And so that's the sort of Tony Soprano of the mob here. Just because Furio is the guy who shows up to your house and beats the crap out of you and your family doesn't mean that he's the one running it. So I would say the same thing about Victoria Nuland. So do you think...

So what now Bobby, what Bobby Kennedy is saying is that Trump got duped in his first term.

That he got that the swamp kind of smothered him and he didn't know, you know, he had to hire 60,000 people and for the federal government. And he didn't really know what he was doing because he was a political novice. And so but he learned from that. So he won't make those mistakes in this second term, especially with Bobby Kavanaugh.

Kennedy advising him. Bobby Kennedy is outspoken against the Ukraine war and against the war with Russia and China, except for the war in the Middle East. Bobby's all on board. So

What do you make of that? Do you think that there's because that's the only hope there is in this country right now, because Kamala Harris is just like having Victoria Nuland be the president of the United States. I mean, it's over. They will ramp up the war in Ukraine. They will ramp up war with Russia. They will ramp up. And we're we're messing with nuclear powers now and they will do a war with Iran at the behest of Israel. They will do every war possible, including Venezuela. And no matter what it is, they won't stop.

So what do you make of that when Bob, so Bobby Kennedy gave his big speech or it was on a podcast and he talked about how they, that Trump got duped and he was overwhelmed his first term, but he's learned. And this next term that he won't let that happen. Do you, do you think that, I mean, I'm, I think Bobby's sincere, but do you think Trump is, and what do you, what do you make of that?

I think there's some truth in that. And I saw it myself while I was in the White House. But but, you know, it's not just Bobby Kennedy saying that. It's also James, you know, James Comey, the FBI director, who, if you recall, after he was fired as the FBI director,

began this sort of uh publicity tour about how bad trump was and in one of the panel discussions he was on a couple years after he was fired he said you know he was asked about how they set up you know mike flynn and had that you know if you remember there were the handwritten notes from the fbi agents are we going there to get him fired or to get him or to get him to to perjure himself like literally like is the purpose of this

this cloak and dagger thing we shouldn't be doing or this cloak and dagger thing it's illegal for us to do. And, but Comey was asked about that. And, and what he said was, well, we wouldn't have done that to Hillary Clinton in part because we wouldn't have been able to, you know, but the Trump administration was so green in January, 2017, they were such novices that we figured, you know, they'd fall right into our trap.

And I think that that, that is a very accurate assessment of the first three years of the Trump administration. It really took until about early 2020 for a few things to happen, not just the institutional knowledge of, of Trump sort of starting to get a peripheral vision of what he, what he's up against. I still wouldn't say it's a clear line of sight, but, but I think his peripheral vision on these things is,

has improved, but also Trump had to do favors for much, for a significant wing of the Republican party. Uh, remember, cause he didn't just beat the Clinton dynasty when he got in, in 2016, he also beat the Bushes. And at the time, every member of Congress was, you know, was a book, every, every career civil service official at the state department or CIA or DOD, every foreign affairs, civil, sir, every, every foreign service member, they were, they were all Bushes.

Or they were a part of the Bush-Romney-McCain axis. There was no like Pat Buchanan populist right seats in government. So he had to win them over.

having base coming into it, not just against the Democrats, but also against his own party. And so I think it took him several years to actually put enough favors in the favor bank. You know, he kept on, he gave the Pentagon more funding than it had ever asked for. You know, he did things like bomb Syria, you know, with the, you know, what was probably a token show, but, you know, he did all these sort of maneuverings. Now, part of that I think was because he needed the Republican support to stave off Russiagate.

But when Russiagate ended in July 2019, he began to make quite serious changes, including he changed his presidential personnel office. He changed the practice of hiring and firing political appointees. He basically started unshackling himself from donors. If you recall, he had John Bolton as a national security advisor for about three months before

And then fired him and said, you know, if I kept going with John Bolton, we'd be in World War VI by now.

But so he did, you know, it's sort of like if you remember the pussy tape in the 2016 election. Yes. And when it happened, you know, there was like, you know, grabbing by the three quarters of the country was like, it's over. But then he took to Twitter. He was like, well, I'm unshackled now. I'm just going to do. And so, you know, there was there was really the beginning of that. And that's why the Democrats are so obsessed with this Project 2025 thing, even though it's

What is it? It's like a side project of heritage by people not even on Trump's campaign, but they've made this whole Project 20. Well, it's because Project 2025 articulates this Schedule F technique for the mass firing, mass layoffs of these blob bureaucrats, which is the main institutional control to stop the agenda to reform the government at DOD, at state, at CIA, at HHS.

So Trump has expressed that he wants to do that. And that's one of the reasons they're tying him to 20 project 2025. But he may need to back off that just to not get assassinated. All right, Mike, I hate to end our interview, but I have other guests waiting and we're already over time. And I really appreciate you coming on, Mike. How come you how come you're allowed to tell these truths? Why haven't they come for your Twitter account? Why haven't they thrown you in jail?

Well, I don't have a YouTube. I don't have a Facebook. I only started this social media account after Elon acquired X and there was the promise of freedom on there. So I sort of rolled the dice by – because I saw what happened to people who spent their life's work building up a voice and then you lose it all because –

you know, the YouTube answers to, to what the government says or their own sensors take you out. But, you know, for me, I don't know. I mean, I, I get asked that question a lot, which is like, how has no one killed you? And then how have you not killed yourself? Because some of this stuff is somewhat depressing, but you know, the fact is, is I, I try to,

I think Julian Assange is a complete and total hero. I think Snowden is a hero. You know, everything I do is open source. Everything I do is, you know, when I talk about the National Endowment for Democracy, I'm using their own documents. I'm not, you know, I'm not, I don't meet with sources. I don't get, you know, special information. You know, I'm trying, you know, basically trying to explain this almost like, you know, an internet university professor just trying to help people sense make what,

what these institutions say about themselves. But at the same time, I'm well aware that, you know, when you fly too close to the sun, you get burned. And there are things that, frankly, I think need to be published that I've been too afraid to publish because of that exact concern that you expressed.

uh but you know hopefully we can build up a free speech coalition as i think it started to come together through elon i think being being good at the rumble being secure through allies in congress taking this issue seriously finally through lawyers you know moving into the space um you know there's i'm i'm putting my hope in the fact that this is something bigger than my own life and uh if something happens to me then

If I'm a dead man walking, I'm going to walk as far as I can. So hopefully that never happens, but we'll see. Okay. Mike Benz, everybody check out his Twitter account. I really appreciate you coming on today and I hope we can get you back on. There's lots more stuff I'd like to talk to you about. Thanks, Jimmy. And I'm a big fan of your leadership and your work and your voice. So I appreciate your time today. I appreciate that.

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We have special guests in the studio with us bringing gifts. Dre DiMatteo is here. She is an actress best known for portraying Adriana on HBO's hit series of Sopranos.

Sopranos? It's the Sopranos. For which she received the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama Series in 2004. Other notable shows she's appeared on include Desperate Housewives, Joey, Sons of Anarchy, and Shades of Blue. Earlier this year, she launched Ultra Free, a streetwear clothing line. Please welcome to the show. Good to see you. Now, Trey...

Your name is spelled Drea, but it's... It's short for Andrea, but everybody calls me Drea. Oh, everybody just calls you Drea. When people don't really know me, they call me Drea. But if you know me, it's Drea. So now are you 100% Italian? 100%, as far as I know. And what part of Italy do you know? Have you traced back your... I never did that, but my family always said Naples. Oh, really? Okay. We're greaseballs. Aha! Are you Italian? No.

Your wife's Italian, right? Everybody thinks she's Italian. Everybody thinks I'm Italian. I'm Mexican. 100% Mexican. Oh, same thing. Come on.

I think she's from the East Coast. She's not. She's a native Los Angelen. And is that a word? Los Angelen? We're neighbors, by the way. We are. It took me six minutes to get here. Oh, no kidding. I was so happy. You live in Studio City? I live up in more Laurel area. Oh, okay. Oh, fantastic. Yeah. Yeah.

I like this area. Shatner lives right down the street. I didn't know you were here. I thought you were one of the people that have already migrated out of here. Oh, like to Austin or something like that? Yes. I mean, it's tempting. I like Austin. Joe Rogan's got that great club. Yeah, I actually saw you at Minds Fest. Oh, that's right. What was the name of that place? I can't remember. I don't remember either. It was real. Yeah. The Vulcan. Oh, that was the Vulcan. So that was the old spot. Yeah, the old spot.

Yeah. So you're hanging in, staying in Los Angeles? No. You're leaving? We're going to list it. Oh, no kidding. I'm in a house just like this, and I've been there almost 25 years. We almost lost the house anyway. We were in foreclosure over the whole mandate thing and all that insane stuff. So tell people what happened. Now, you didn't take the jab.

And that led to not you not being able to get work, right? Yeah. I mean, look, I have 50 year old actor at the time. It's not like the jobs are just, you know, falling down, but they, but I was still getting offered jobs and I don't need to have a career. I just need to have enough money to feed my kids. And that's, it's always been important to me after Sopranos. I'm like, I don't give a fuck what I do now. Am I allowed to curse? Yes. Sorry. Um,

But anyhow, I had to keep turning things down little by little, job after job. And then once the mandates were dropped, the strike set in. So I was like, man, I'm fucked. Like, I'm never going to never going to work again. And just also the way a lot of people acted at that time, I just didn't even think I ever wanted to go back. So, yeah, I lost. I was losing my house. We were in foreclosure. I took the forbearances that everybody told you to take and

They kept sending me foreclosure letters and then I would call the mortgage company and they would say, no, no, you're not in foreclosure. Take a longer forbearance. And I was like, okay, why not? What is a forbearance? They did this thing where they offered people like a, like you, they would tag the mortgage onto the end of your, they would tag your payments for that time period onto the end of your mortgage. Oh, okay. So if you skip, they would just put it at the end. Yes. And they didn't do that.

And they didn't.

And I was the bad guy and I just had to wait it out. Now, how did you know what made you not to not get vaccinated? What?

I mean the first way around it was that I'm a hippie, I don't even take Tylenol, I don't take this, I eat plants, I'm that guy, I like my vitamins and only the ones that are sourced the way I want them sourced and all of that sort of stuff. Even though my kids are fully vaccinated, I wasn't an anti-vaxxer, I really don't want to vaccinate my kids but my ex wanted them vaccinated and I was like, "All right, what could go wrong?"

But with this one, I think I just really had this real witchy... I just kept thinking about 9-11, and I couldn't get it out of my head. Because even though I was on board with kill Osama bin Laden and all of this crazy stuff when we first watched those towers go down, I just couldn't help but feel like the call was coming from inside the house. Right. And I...

I just, I don't know. I had weird feelings about COVID the whole time. My daughter even came to me before the schools shut down. This is weird. Sorry if this is weird. But she was like, mama, I had a dream that all the teachers were carrying all their boxes out of the schools and taking all their stuff. And I was like, okay, well, that's a weird dream. And then two weeks later,

it was real and I was like holy and I just I knew there'd be a vaccination to follow it I just knew it I knew they were going to throw the problem out there they were going to offer the solution I directed a music video back in 2010 my ex-boyfriend's album the father of my kids called black ribbons Stephen King narrates it

And it's all about the Bush administration. And I was always sort of just anti-government, a non-voter. I thought that it was all bullshit and orchestrated in theater, you know? So when we made that album, and I was like, "I want to really direct this video. Can I do this video with you?" So we did this one video, and my daughter stars in it. She's one. And it's about mass vaccinations and how the gas mask is the couture in the summer of rage.

And FEMA's building mass graves and you and I, they'll vaccinate. I think, I don't watch Alex Jones, but I heard he uses it on his show. Wow. Yeah, it's freaky. And the album's freaky. And Stephen King narrates it. It's a pirated radio station on the last night before martial law, the last night before the New World Order. And it's just this...

It's, um, he wanted to help write some of it. Shooter wrote most of it, my ex. And then, you know, we, it was, uh, it was a crazy experience. I don't know how, I think we just had that Eisenhower speech stuck in our heads.

And I'm... Beware the undue influence of the military industrial complex, that speech. Yeah. And that was basically, it was the Bush administration. Everybody was frustrated. We were not political. I'm still not political, strangely enough. I feel like it was more about humanity even then. And now we're in the same administration.

I feel like. I mean, I didn't know that when I voted for Biden. Sorry, if I voted for Biden. It's the only time I ever voted. The only time I ever voted. Because I had Trump derangement syndrome. But that album is...

is amazing. I remember sitting in my house and I posted the video on while we were all in lockdown and it got taken down immediately. And they said it was because we didn't own the rights to the music. So I called Shooter. I go, yo, do you own the rights? You own the rights to this music. You got it back. He goes, of course I own the rights. But it was taken down, I'm sure, for many other reasons. And that was that. But I thought about what would Stephen King do now?

Would he narrate it now? Because it's the same administration. Of course not. Fuck no. No, Stephen King has lost his mind. I know. A lot of them. We lost a lot of them. We lost a lot of good people. I know. The only one who will apologize is Tim Robbins.

- Oh, was he out there pontificating too? - So Tim Robbins apologized for, you know, and he talked about I was wrong and treated people not correctly. And so, and he owns up to it. - Yeah, he was outspoken. He was outspoken. - But nobody else, no one, even, you know, especially my comedian friends, they all want to memory hole it, right? And they don't want to, you know, to me the greatest

sin that they committed was they shamed people, their audiences for trying to get informed. And they would say, tell me you're not going to do your own research. Yeah. That's so what you're telling people is stay ignorant and trust blindly, trust authority. Don't, don't ever be skeptical of authority. That's what comedians were telling their audience. And none of them are apologizing for it. I'm talking about big comedians with specials, right? The top comedians in the country with specials that said that shit.

I remember. None of them will apologize. But I feel like you guys kind of led the way

for acceptance in some ways because the first of all comedy can always thrive under the like no matter how awful the president is you guys get you guys can take shots at everything but it was the first time in history that everybody backed off yes and that was wild but if but the good ones i like what um what brett weinstein says about all of the uh about how all of these and he said it more about people in institutions how all the people

that were free thinking kind of got pushed out of the institutions and created this kind of coalition of free thinkers and he's like i like our odds and i feel like that happened with you guys too with the comedians there aren't any actors that are out there that care about anything no i mean literally this is a shirt for them today numbed out is the new normal

I will never act again as long as they don't put me in the category of an actor speaking about politics because there's nothing I hated more than watching actors talk about politics. And now musicians, too. I used to love it. Now I'm like, Neil Young? Wow. There was a guy who used to be an executive producer, hilarious comedian, great writer on The Simpsons.

And he's one of those guys with those bits about, don't be stupid, take the vaccine. He said, he had a bit about, he said, my brother doesn't want to take the vaccine because he doesn't know what's in it. He says he doesn't know how it works. And it's like, he says, you know what? I don't know how my zipper works, but I trust that my dick isn't hanging out when I'm at the Starbucks. Hey, you don't have to trust that your dick is, you just can look. You just go like that. You don't have to trust. Right.

That's the dumbest joke I ever heard in my life and people were tweeting it out. This is genius. No, you're telling people to stay stupid, to don't look into medical. So I don't know if you've ever had a medical problem in your life, but I've had, I had a big one. I almost died. And,

What they tell you always, you have to get a second and third opinion. You have to get as informed about your situation as you can. And then who makes the decision? You make the decision on which doctor is right. Because doctors always contradict each other. This idea to shut up and just listen to the man on the TV. It is... I'm still... It's still...

It gets me worked up to think about it today. - It's the mafia, it's Fauci, you have to listen. He's Tony Soprano, don't fuck around. - That's right, that's right. - Little tiny Tony Soprano. - So did you lose, so when you decided not to take the vaccine,

did, uh, and your, did your agent, your manager find out about it? And how did they react? Eventually the agent dropped me, you know, was fine. I didn't give a shit really. I mean, I was about to leave anyway, cause I knew I wasn't going to act again.

By choice, it wasn't even, I didn't even care. I was like, I lost everything. What else do I have to lose at this point? As long as you don't take my children, I'm good. Take my house, take fucking everything. But leave me and my kids and leave their minds alone. That's all I care about. Leave their minds, their lungs, their hearts alone. So yeah, my manager was cool. But it's just been, I just don't feel the same about anything anymore.

It was a real, I never felt the same after 9/11.

I felt like that was the end of our freedom. I'm sure that started back when JFK was assassinated. But for me as a young girl watching those towers fall right in front of me in New York, I look at that freedom tower, they call it, and I always say to the kids, no, no, no, no, no, because that's the anti-freedom tower. I don't like that building. I don't like looking at it. I was in it recently to go do something at Vanity Fair and it was a ghost town. There's nothing in the buildings.

building. Really? It was very weird and ominous and strange feeling to walk through there. I'd never been down to ground zero, but I was down in that

Well, I hope it doesn't catch fire and fall into its own footprint. You know how steel buildings do all the time, right? Of course. I'm sorry. They never did it before and never did it since. But three times it happened in one day. Isn't that amazing? It is out of control. All of it. Everything. I don't... And you know something? And as a comedian, I think to myself, you can't even write this shit anymore. It's so unbelievable when I hear even... When I was watching the debate, I'm like...

What the fuck is going on here? But I guess once you see it, you can't unsee it. But I think about all these fellow liberals, because I still consider myself a liberal. I haven't changed. Everything else around me changed. That's exactly right. So if you stayed consistent, they're not going to call you a right winger, right? I'm a Nazi. I'm not just a right winger. I'm a Nazi. They want to know where my swastikas are on the merch. I'm like, but these are for you guys. You guys are anti-nukes. You guys are anti-censorship. Where are you?

are you right they're supposed to be anti-war the liberals are supposed to be anti-war anti-pentagon anti-censorship pro-bodily autonomy pro-choice they they don't ever say that anymore so they switch they became authoritarians and fascists they're all pro-war they're all for censorship which is the hallmark of every dictator and every fascist uh they're so they're for that they're against bodily autonomy they wanted to force you to take an experimental medical treatment

I mean, they took completely flipped all their values. Yeah. And now they're in bed with Dick Cheney. That's my favorite. As they're pushing a war with Russia, a nuclear power. And it took Trump at the at the debate to bring up. He's got nuclear weapons. What are you guys crazy? But what is your opinion on Putin endorsing Kamala? I'm curious. Do you think it's mind control or reverse psychology or do you think he really is?

firmly is standing with that story? Or do you think because they were about to do a whole new Russia, Russia, Russia disinformation thing? So he was kind of helping out. I can't figure it out. Everything is so nebulous. Well, it's obvious to me that Kamala Harris is the chosen candidate

and preferred candidate of the deep state the cia the pentagon the state department uh the military industrial complex and wall street right she she was chosen first in 2019 to be there i thought it was going to be newsome for for sure uh-huh no she's she's it they they

They can do imperialism and more wars with just like a Barack Obama, right? If you're a person of color, especially a woman, oh my God, right? So now if you criticize her, you're a racist and a sexist. But Barack Obama, you know, he was supposed to be a departure from Bush. He wasn't. He took us from two wars to seven. He dropped more bombs than George Bush and nobody noticed. And I said, if you're anti-war, it would be better for a Republican to get elected because at least Democrats will protest a Republican sometimes when they start a war.

But nobody ever protested Barack Obama for starting wars and dropping more bombs than George Bush. They didn't even notice. The most clever play of all time. That's it. To switch it over from Bush to all of the Democrats. That's right. So you go from this Dick Cheney, George Bush, obvious evil, to Barack Obama, who you think is going to be, he's a black guy. He's not going to be a tool of Wall Street and the military industrial complex and big pharma. Of course that's the best. He's better. Perfect. Perfect.

And now the president of Poland is trying to warn us. So get this. So Biden poised to approve Ukraine's use of long range Western weapons in Russia. Putin says the West will be fighting directly with Russia if it lets Kiev use long range missiles. So he's warning us. You're going to be I'm going to look at it as you attacking us.

If you give those weapons to Ukraine and let Ukraine bomb inside Russia, I'm looking at it as a direct attack from the United States. The guy has nuclear weapons. I mean, we've been fighting this as a proxy war the whole time. Yes. He's been nice at this point. Yes. He's been very generous.

So Polish people are concerned that the United States is about to start World War Three. And those people at the decadential didn't care. They are cheering it on like mindless, brainwashed Stepford wives told to cheer for a politician. You're supposed to be Democrats and not be for war and World War Three. Polish MEP Braun and Antony Blinken is visiting Poland today.

Blinken, go home as soon as possible. Get lost. We don't want you here. We don't want Polish people paying and dying for... Here it is. Here it is. Blinken, go home. Go home. As soon as possible. Get lost. Get lost. We don't want you here. We don't want... I can feel that. We don't want Polish people paying and dying for your words. Thank you very much. God, that's... That's...

That's that's he you could feel that you could feel his this is bad stuff, guys. It's like America has forgotten basic Newtonian physics for every action. There's a reaction. Yeah. And I hadn't seen that. That that that's going to have me up. Anyway, it's it's that. So thank God somebody saying something. Anthony Blinken, who's a who's the guy who's actually running things? Not Joe Biden.

Anthony Blinken inside the White House. He's running these wars. It's not Joe Biden. How many Polish people does it take to cancel World War III? One. One. One. How about that? Oh, my God. So anyway, I just want to say that's all I have for today. Good luck on your T-shirt company. Thank you. I applaud you for not getting the vax. That was...

I'm envy. - You're gonna be fine. How many did you do and what was it? - I did two. I did the first two Moderna's in April and March and April of 2021. So I'm still being treated for it. So I still, Dr. Peer Khoury is treating me. - Oh, that's amazing. - And so that's nice.

But I was doing a bit at the comedy club the other night. And I do a whole bit about how crazy the vaccine thing was and that they didn't want to release the vaccine trial data for 75 years and how people pretend that vaccines are just like traffic lights. So I come off stage and a comedian I've known for 20 years who hadn't seen me do that bit and those jokes, he leans over to me and goes, hey, that was really funny.

I go, thanks. He said, yeah, it's good that you said you got vaxxed up at the top of that bit. So then we know which side you're on. Oh, fuck. And I'm like, what? I'm jealous of those people who didn't get vaxxed. I got injured by it. You think I'm happy I did that? And what do you mean, which side?

You're on the side of big pharma and the corrupt government and the media. That's the side you're on. There should be no more sides. Period. Sides. I know. We're fucking a bunch of teenagers. But that's a grown man, 50 years old, just talking like that. Which side are you on? Yeah. What's your pronoun? Yeah.

You red or blue? Anyways, DeMatteo, I really appreciate you coming in. I hope you enjoyed your time here. Thank you for having me. We're always a big fan of your work. And thanks for speaking out and doing the right thing. And good luck with your company.

Thank you. We'll be at the Rescue the Republic. We'll all be there. I'll be there watching you. You'll be there? Fantastic. Yes, we'll be there. We'll be there. I'll be there. That's September 29th in Washington. What's that? Is it 29 or 28? Oh, I think the dinner will be before. It's the 28th. There's an anti-war rally on Saturday the 28th, which I won't be able to make. I have a show here Friday night. It's a Rumble Time show here at Two Roads Theater on September 27th.

So the next morning, first thing in the morning, I fly to D.C., but I don't get in until after the rally's over. So I'll be at the Rescue the Republic on Sunday, and I'll be speaking about free speech and trying to rescue the republic. Let's do it. With people who want to join me in that endeavor. Everybody, come on down. Yes, come on down. ♪

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