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“We’re Happy To Know People Are Suffering” - Say Israeli Podcasters

2024/9/6
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Hosts Jimmy Dore, Keaton Weiss, and Russell Dobular discuss a viral clip from the Israeli podcast "Two Nice Jewish Boys." The clip features hosts advocating for the eradication of Palestinians, sparking a conversation about the hosts' views, Israeli sentiment towards Palestinians, and the double standard of censorship on social media.
  • Hosts of "Two Nice Jewish Boys" podcast advocate for erasing Gaza.
  • Discussion on the double standard of censorship on social media.
  • Debate on whether the hosts' views represent broader Israeli sentiment.

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So I don't know if you're familiar with this podcast. Uh,

That's our podcast. Yeah. So it's called Two Nice Jewish Boys. That's us in Bizarro World. So I want to play this since you both have been Jewish all your life. Peace out. And I just wanted to play this for you. And I'm kind of shocked at this and shocked that this is how people in Israel think because the Jews here, I know, don't think like this. But here we are, what we're doing in Gaza.

Because in Gaza, maybe there's mass destruction, but there's not massive death. Or deportation. Yeah, there's no deportation because they're all dead. Anyway, here we go. Deportation.

Anyway, so, you know, when you sit on your high horse, the people who are sitting on their high horse are the police trampling Hasidic Jews in Israel. That's right. That's weird. And, you know, I'm sure I don't mean to belittle our listeners. We love you guys. But if you're listening to our words and saying, how could they be advocating to, you know, to massive bombing, indiscriminate bombing, you know.

How could they talk about killing children? We're not advocating to target children, but forgive us if we don't give a shit. Forgive me if we don't forgive you for not giving a shit. How about that? The entire world has kind of woken up now simultaneously to the fact that you aren't the royalty that your mother told you you were. And I have to tell you, there are plenty of American Zionists who think this way. This is not unique to Israelis.

So let's a little bit more. Here we go. You know, everybody there dies. It's just the way we feel. It's just the way Israelis feel. Yeah. Because and this is this is what I you know, that's the that's what the Hulon attack did. I wrote to show on my wife. I was like, it'll be you or me tomorrow or Daniela or Itai, God forbid. Yeah.

And so I would, if you gave me a button to just erase Gaza, every single living being in Gaza would no longer be living tomorrow, I would press it in a second. That's just, I think, I mean, I think most Israelis probably agree. If that's the choice, yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. No, even if it's not like right now. Yeah, no. I would press it right now. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, same with the territories. I would press it right now. No choice. No, you know, Shallan is safe at home. God willing. I don't know. I haven't spoken to her in like an hour. No, I'm saying for the chance.

Yeah. Yeah. I would press it right now. Give me that button. I'd press it right now. There you go. And I think most Israelis would. Yeah. Most Jewish Israelis. They wouldn't post, they wouldn't talk about it like I have. They wouldn't post, they wouldn't say I pressed it. Yeah. But they would press it. They don't have balls of steel like you. But they would press it, right? Like if they were in a closet alone, they wouldn't even hesitate. So,

Someone came to them and said, no one will know. You press this, all the Palestinians are gone. You'd be like, hey, is there another one? So that's real. I want to play one more and then I want to get your response.

Biro people in Israel, if you go up to them and you're like, do you care if this baby in Gaza gets polio? They'll be like, I don't fucking care. Leave open-minded with care. Yeah, okay. There'll be like 20 people who care and they're all wearing Meretz shirts. Like, fuck them. But seriously, nobody would give a shit. They'd be like, leave me alone, man. I'm trying to buy shit for Shabbat. Like, fuck off.

i don't care about this gazing yeah also as long as they're in their nakba state in their tents you know and uh we are living still like you know if you put aside the news day-to-day is is okay yesterday we went to a concert yeah in aircon park we had a lot of fun me and my girlfriend uh

We danced and it was amazing. And you can't help but think like it's nice to know that you're dancing in a concert while hundreds of thousands of Gazans are dancing.

you know homeless homeless like sitting in a tent and yeah eating makes it even better yeah more enjoyable concert if only they if only they put live live video footage of gaza

But seriously, you guys, that's what people don't understand. Look, I know that you guys might be appalled by this, some of the listeners, but seriously, this is how Israelis feel. And you might think that Eitan Weinstein and Naor, who refuses to kind of back me up on it publicly. I'm the...

I'm from the UN. Yeah, he's the UN. But you might think I'm extreme. But I have conversations with lots of people, co-workers, friends. People enjoy knowing that they are suffering. No, also it's very prominent on Twitter. That is the weirdest thing I think I've ever heard. That we could be at a music festival, we...

What we enjoy knowing that they're suffering. So let me just again, this is all mind blowing to me. Like, I can't really get over it. I can't wrap my mind around it. So I'll give it to my two nice Jewish boys on my show and they can respond to the two nice Jewish boys.

Well, these are psychologically damaged people. These are clearly broken people. And this is a point that Russ makes better than I do. So I figured I'd tee that up for you in case you want to catch that pitch. But you could take it your own way. And then I have a slightly different angle on this. But go ahead. Yeah, I had seen the first clip. I didn't see the second clip. Yeah.

Yeah, that is just incredibly sick. What's really remarkable about these disgusting Nazi pigs is that they think that they are fighting anti-Semitism.

When these people are like a bomb of anti-Semitism, these people are typhoid Mary of anti-Semitism. It is how do people watch that? And if you don't know about Jews, you don't know Jewish people or not rabid Zionists, they have spent decades, they've spent almost a century watching

inculcating people around the world with the idea that Jews are Zionists and Zionists are Jews, that there is no daylight between those things. So what are people to make of the Jewish people if they are convinced that Zionists are by definition Jews and Jews are by definition Zionists when they hear something so sick, so satanic?

as this now I cannot recommend this book highly enough I urge everybody who wants to understand

How these two disgusting people with these kinds of views would feel comfortable expressing this on the air as if it's funny, as if that's okay to say things like that, even if they harbor it. If you want to understand how they got there, read 10 Myths About Israel by Ilan Pape. That will really explain to you that this demonic, this satanic,

This genocidal Israeli state is not something that happened over time. It's not something that happened after October 7th. This is what the Zionist project has always been. This is why most Jews until after the Holocaust opposed.

opposed the idea of resettling in Israel. The people who actually first promoted this were British Zionists like Lord Palmerston in the 1840s, who partly wanted to put Jews in Palestine for the same reason that we like them there now.

Because as RFK said, they're our aircraft carrier in that region. We use them as a military base, essentially, for operations. We use their intelligence services to manipulate that region, to inform on the other countries in that region. It was also anti-Semitism. These Christian Zionists didn't like Jews. They thought a very good solution to that problem would be send them back where they came from. Send them back to Palestine.

Send them over there, and that way it's win-win. They can live over there. We don't have to have any Jews polluting Europe, and they can act as our agents in the Middle East, and that is very much the function they still serve. Now, if you look at the early inception

Of Zionism, the early projects, Ben-Gurion, who was the first prime minister of Israel, when he first got there, he didn't like that Zionists were working with and often for Arabs. He didn't like that. He didn't want them to have that kind of economic and social interaction. Why?

Because Zionism was always envisioned as a project of ethnic cleansing at best and genocide at worst. You can't genocide people that you have a close relationship with, that you work for. They work for you. You can't have that. Like any cult, he made a point of breaking those relationships between the native Arabs who lived in the region and the Zionist settlers who were coming in.

Every opportunity they've ever had from the 1967 war to the 1973 war to the Oslo so-called peace process, every opportunity they've had to create a pretext to kill more Palestinians and steal more of their land, they've taken that opportunity while crying victim. So when you look at these two, they have been convinced, brainwashed, and indoctrinated that –

these Palestinians are Nazis, that they're the Nazis, that they're the Nazis who did these things to their ancestors, that they have unreasoning hatred of Jews, that the Jews, every Zionist you talk to thinks that Israel has constantly tried to make peace with them and offer them reasonable settlements and they've only been repaid with violence. It's a complete distortion of history.

But that is what they believe. That is what they've been brainwashed to believe. So where they're coming from is they have been convinced that they're surrounded by Nazis who won't take any peace offer that is given. So what else do you do? Well, you have to kill them all.

Well, the reason I say they're psychologically broken, I mean, that's a broken person who would say things like that. That's not a normal person who would say things like that. And they went on for a whole hour, which I'll get to in a short moment. But they have projected onto the...

Palestinian people the evil that was perpetrated against their ancestors. They feel great generational shame. Shame has been passed down from their ancestors. A lot of men in the camps felt very emasculated and deballed by the fact that they were not able to effectively fight back against the Nazis, that they were not able to protect their families from the Nazis. And the way they feel strong now is to

take that anger and that rage and that sense of failure out on a population that cannot defend itself. And that's what I mean. Like that, that is just a person with something broken inside that would say a thing like that. Now,

The point I have to make here, this episode here, this whole podcast, the Two Nice Jewish Boys podcast, I'm a little bit conflicted as to how to approach this. Because there's two things in this world I can't stand. It's Israel and censorship. I hate both of those things with a passion.

And I cannot, on principle, advocate for the deplatforming of these guys. But it does have to be said. These video clips are from a podcast that is up on YouTube as we speak on a channel that is fully monetized as we speak. Now, you're going to tell me

That if we said what they are saying about Israel, we wouldn't be thrown off YouTube in a minute. Right. If we said this shit about Israel, our channels will be down in half a day. Yep. In half an hour. Half an hour. Half an hour. If I could push a button and kill everyone in Israel, I would. Yeah.

That would be the end of the channel. That's the end of the channel. That's the end of the channel. Now, look, in principle, I'm not I can't advocate for their censorship. They have a right to say whatever disgusting shit they want. And we have a right to give our take. So I can't even on principle advocate for them to be shut down. But the unfairness of it is striking. I mean, Richard Medhurst got his channel demonetized right after October 7th. Jackson Hinkle has been thrown off.

of YouTube entirely for telling the truth about the Ukraine war. These two pieces of garbage can say, who cares if babies die of polio and if I could push a button and kill everyone in Gaza and nothing happens? Nothing happens? That's not hate speech? Look, you could argue there's no such thing as hate speech, right? That's a sound argument. Hate speech is a construct to justify censorship. So you could say that. But as long as YouTube has hate speech rules, are you kidding? Are you kidding? So...

The only good thing is that if they were censored like everybody else is censored on YouTube, I would never know that these people think like this. Well, no, absolutely. That's why you're right. I'm not advocating for that. I'm just pointing out the inconsistency. It's very useful to me to know what we're actually dealing with. That is so far beyond anything honest that you could press a button and wipe out an entire...

Like that, women, children, babies, doesn't matter. Because understand, they have been convinced that they are surrounded by the spiritual heirs of the Nazi party.

That is how they've been brainwashed from birth to think. It's like the Democrats in America are convinced they're fighting Hitler and Stalin and Pol Pot and Trump, right? So any horrible thing they can do, no matter how unconstitutional it is, is okay. Because we're fighting an existential evil. And so they've been convinced of that. So that just goes back to, I hate to interject it, but Carl Jung, you know, Carl Jung talks about

that when one nation goes to war with another nation, we project the ugly, our shadow onto that nation. And that's exactly, you see it's inside them.

So they're just as Nazified as the people they claim to be. I mean, that's what when you when you be, you know, there's a saying, forget who said it, but maybe it was Nietzsche. But when fighting monsters, make sure you don't become a monster yourself. Yes. And that's exactly what they've got. They become the thing they think they're fighting.

If you stare into the abyss long enough, the abyss will stare back into you. Be careful not to become a monster when you're fighting monsters. And that's exactly, they don't see what's happened to them. And here's one more even. The soldier guards in the prison camp, there were allegations that they sodomized October 7th terrorists, stuck things up their butt.

And there was apparently video, and the video came out this week, and we'll talk about it in detail. But what's amazing to me is the fact that the left is treating these situations. Let's take it at face value. Let's say some prisoner guards, soldiers, took a big, sharp knife

You know, like... Scythe. Porcupine dildo with barbed wire around it and shoved it up this guy's ass. Without lube. Are you really gonna play the oh poor guy card? How could I do this? That's a fraction of what the person deserves. Seriously. Like how...

Where is your morality? Where is your morality when you're enraged by it? You know what I mean? You say, Barak Ravid tweeted, we've reached the rock bottom of Israeli discourse because some guy was saying they deserved it. Yeah. That's how they should be executed, by shoving too large of an object up their butts. Yeah, but it's not going to happen. Of course, but...

No, it's not going to happen. Oh, wistfully. Well, you know, when the when the IDF soldiers got caught raping the Palestinian prisoner, there was that clip that went somewhat viral on Israeli TV. One of the media stations did a poll. Is it justified for IDF soldiers to rape Palestinian prisoners? And a plurality of Israelis said, yes, it is. 47 percent said, yes, it is justified. Forty three percent says, no, it isn't.

So actually the most important takeaway from what these guys are saying is the true fact of what they're saying, which is that most Israelis don't disagree with them.

They say over and over again throughout this podcast, hey, you know, I don't care if a baby dies of polio and neither do most people in Israel. You know, I don't care if they have an object shoved up their ass, neither do most people in Israel. That's true. That's true. These guys are actually not the exception in Israel. They are the rule. They are the norm. And that's why, Jimmy, what you said, I agree with 100%. If they were censored, we wouldn't know this kind of sentiment exists in such widespread fashion. And we couldn't

give our take on it we couldn't talk back against it so don't get me wrong i do not advocate for them to be censored uh i believe very strongly what's the old ad is the solution to bad speech is more speech right so yes i think that's true here and again i have to do this came up when george bush was torturing people in the war on terror which again were the terrorists um

The reason why you don't torture someone is not because that person isn't a bad person, but because you're not supposed to be a torturer. That's the whole, you're supposed to think if you go down to that level, now there's no difference. And the reason why you don't torture isn't because of that person, but because you respect yourself and you respect a certain code of behavior.

And if someone's act. So now you're saying someone else can make me become the most ugliest, disgusting, immoral thing in the world because they're bad. That's not how that's not how it's supposed to work. Anyway, anything else you'd like to add to this? Yeah, what I would love to add to that is the other part of not torturing people is.

The what a healthy society does is they don't choose to inflict pain for pain's sake. In other words, the points of attacking someone who means you harm is to defend yourself from harm. You're not supposed to get off.

on causing another person excruciating pain. But this is why I say these people are broken people. These are fucked up people. They're not normal people. They feel that a great pain was inflicted upon them going back generations. And so they get off on inflicting pain on others. And they're such fucking cowards that they have chosen to push around a population that

cannot fight back because the world will not allow them to. The world will not allow them to. You can get in a lot of trouble for saying things 1% as vile as that if you say it in defense of the Palestinian resistance. You can't even touch that with a 10-foot pole on these big tech platforms. They'll throw your ass up. These fucking assholes can go up here and straight up advocate for torture and genocide.

And killing babies with polio. And apparently nothing happens. Well, remember, they have been brainwashed into believing.

that their enemy tortures, that their enemy, no matter what, is completely implacable. So what else do you do with an enemy like that? What passes for liberal in Israel is the idea that it's not the fault of the Palestinians, it's the fault of their leadership. So basically, if a bunch of Chinese came and took Queens and people in Manhattan and the Bronx started fighting back,

By this logic, they're barbarians. They're wrong. They're savages to want to fight back and take their land. And that is how the Israelis see it. They are savages. They've taken almost 90% of the land that originally belonged to the Palestinians. And when they send a firecracker over the fence, they're barbarians. They're savages. They can't be reasoned with.

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Remember in the United States, the railroad workers wanted to go on strike because you can't believe how horribly they're being treated. They don't even get sick days, stuff like that. Well, the same thing's happening in Canada, eh? And the Canadian, well, listen to this. They wanted to go on strike, but guess what happened? Same thing. Just like when Joe Biden and the Democrats and the government smashed their strike and made it illegal, wouldn't let them do it. They're doing the same thing in Canada. This guy breaks it down really well.

For those who don't know, the workers of CN Rail and CPKC Rail are striking. This comes after a lockout by the companies after failing to reach an agreement at the bargaining table, essentially forcing the workers into a strike, which they were prepared to do anyway. And then the rail companies freak the fuck out and ask the government to step in to force the workers back to work. And now the government has called for binding arbitration, a process where a neutral mediator arrives at a solution for both parties. Workers return back to work by Monday morning.

after striking for just two days. So basically the bosses were negotiating terms with the workers, a constitutional right of workers known as collective bargaining. And then the bosses didn't like how the negotiations were going. So they stopped the trains and locked the workers out. Stay with me for a second here. And then the workers were like, okay, I guess we're locked out. So we won't go to work. You guys locked us out of work. We can't go to work. And then the bosses were like,

Holy shit, this is gonna cripple the fucking economy. We need to get the government involved and get these guys back to work. And the government was like, yeah, fuck collective bargaining. Again, guys, a constitutional right. Send these guys back to work. Negotiations are over. We'll appoint someone to decide for you. So instead of the workers and bosses arriving at an agreement cooperatively, like what's supposed to happen, again, guys...

constitutional right, the bosses get to essentially end negotiations by force with the help of the government. Like this is fucking crazy. To explain why the need for negotiations in this case is so important, let's dive into some of the working conditions at Canada's two biggest railway companies. Already overworked train crews are being asked to work

even more hours. And the union says it doesn't want that to lead to another deadly rail disaster like the one in Lac-Megantic. Right now, they're on call almost 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Workers have two hours to report to work if they're called in. And they're not told until they get in how long they'll have to work, which in some cases could be a few days. That's right.

Days. Imagine your boss calls you into work in the middle of the night, makes you work for three days, and you have to sleep at the office. And then you try to negotiate the terms of that agreement, and they lock you out of your job, turn it into a national scandal, and get the government involved. Someone's not getting a world's best boss mug for Christmas this year, I'll tell you that. Here's union president Francois Laporte explaining why it's probably not a good idea to have people operating trains while staying up for days at a time. Because apparently that's something that needs to be explained.

Everywhere across the country you see trains passing by carrying chemical products, energy, oil. We don't want to see another Lac-Megantic accident. We want people who operate the train, people who are not fatigued. Lac-Megantic accident, by the way, was a major railway accident in 2013 which killed 47 people. Explosion after explosion after a runaway train carrying crude oil partially derailed in the center of town. Police are only giving a rough estimate of the number missing because fire and risk of more explosions

have kept them from the worst hit area. So if I'm getting this right, it sounds like the union wants workers to be safe and people not to die. Okay, but there's probably more to this story. Let's hear what the railway companies have to say about this. This is the spokesperson for CN Rail, Jonathan Abacasis. One of the railways, CN, says the union is actually more concerned about money. The first page of their demands is all about wages. Oh, dear Lord.

How dare they? These guys shouldn't care about money? Money? Being fairly compensated for their work? They should be doing it for the love of the game. They shouldn't even get paid. Rail workers should be a volunteer position as far as I'm concerned. This guy Jonathan Abacasis is on the right track, I think. And I'm sure Jonathan makes a very reasonable salary for his anti-union media relations job at CN Rail. Let's have a look. Yahoo Finance lists Abacasis as a key executive of CN Rail.

All of the salaries made public on this 10-person list are over $1 million. And that's before all those million-dollar bonuses. Jonathan's salary isn't listed here, but we can assume it's similar to the others on the list. 2.62 million, 1.42 million, 1.3 million, 1 million, 1 million. So Jonathan, like other senior colleagues of CN Rail listed here, probably has a roughly million-dollar salary.

And here he is, on the news, chastising workers for wanting more money as well as a safer work environment. When safety does become an issue, as workers are telling you it will, you and the other key executives aren't the ones that will experience the fallout of that. The injuries, the deaths, the legal implications. But you are in a position to profit from ignoring these safety issues. Those Christmas bonuses aren't going to look quite as nice if we start reducing hours now, are they? So here's a question, CBC. Why the fuck are you even interviewing this guy?

We already know his position. He's getting paid to slander the union and make workers look bad. This is like asking George Foreman what type of grill to buy. He's only going to have one answer. And people are like, oh, I just don't know who's telling the truth. The guys operating the railroad say the railroad is unsafe. But the guy getting paid millions of dollars to say the railroad is safe says the railroad is safe.

I just don't know who to believe. Also the fact that CN Rail has this spokesperson lying and saying that safety isn't a concern of the union, but self-admittedly also wanting to increase hours?

This is insane. This is crazy. Clearly, safety is a primary concern. And so is money. Because this smug asshole shouldn't be one of 10 people in the whole company being appropriately compensated. And yes, this picture was taken the same day as that interview. He did that interview and was like, fuck the strikes, fuck the workers, I'm the best, that'll be $1 million, please. And then he took this smug ass picture. Look at this, bro's flexing the Apple Watch. He's crushing unions and flexing the Apple Watch, guys. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I hate this guy.

I hate it. We're beefing now. I have beef with the media relations guy from CN Rail. Let's see how all the super pro-worker political parties feel about all this. The Liberals? Siding with the bosses. Helping them do this shit, actually. The Conservatives? Literally haven't said a word. The PPC? Let's see, I got a quote here. Is this about immigrants? Because if this isn't about immigrants, I don't care. Okay. NDP?

Actually joining the picket line. See, okay, see, and this is what makes me think Jagmeet is actually kind of base. Jagmeet Singh slams the liberals for being anti-worker and joins the picket line. It's obvious who's truly pro-worker, but it's also obvious that NDP could be doing way more. Like, yo, if you guys want to seem really pro-worker, this is the time to do it. I mean, and this is going to be controversial.

I continue to find myself saying that Jagmeet Singh needs to pull the plug on the confidence agreement with the Liberals. Like, just to let workers know he stands on business. I'm increasingly confident he will never do that. Because this isn't even the first time something like this has happened and the Liberals allowed some shady shit to happen to workers. And Jagmeet Singh, with the full power of the Supplying Confidence Agreement, was kind of just standing there like, "Hey guys, please don't, please don't do that. Please be a little more pro-worker. Come on, come on Justin. For me? For your buddy? Please."

So, current Mexicans here, the exact thing that happened here in the United States is happening in Canada. The same unbelievably horrific working conditions that were here in the United States are now also in Canada. And so the only thing, so they go into a negotiation. It looks like the company's going to not come out on the top end of this negotiation with the union. Right.

So what do they do? They lock them out. And then everybody's like, hey, we can't get any of the stuff we need. And the government comes in, says that they have to go back to work at these horrible conditions and they don't get to collectively bargain anymore, which is their right under their constitution. And so they have to get take a government appointed person. They call it an arbiter just to decide this labor dispute.

How do you think that's going to work out? You think it's going to work out in favor of labor? You think it's going to work out in favor of the people who are controlling the government, which is the tycoons who run the railroad? Of course.

So this is another reason why the truckers protests in Canada was important and should continue that we have no control of our government in Canada or here in the United States. The oligarchs do and that workers are just going to have to suck it. And what when they're going to. So when this arbiter comes out with this.

new contract, they're going to have to sign it because that's going to be what the government says they have to do. They're not allowed to collect a bargain anymore. So then they have to sign this new contract. And then under law in Canada, they're not allowed to strike contracts

or anything until that contract is over. So this will just keep happening over and over. I don't know when workers are going to get together and stand up against this kind of stuff, but it doesn't seem like anytime soon. Railroads, Jimmy, that's, you know, they also had that liquor strike going on for a while. You know the liquor strike? No, I didn't hear about this. Okay. Canada has this loony-ass system of where liquor stores, their government, it's like their government union workers...

They went on strike. That's the thing that should be private, by the way, liquor stores. So they're so it's so absolutely ridiculous how that works.

People automatically are talking bad about unions. Same thing here where people are like, I don't like unions or whatever. Well, guess who else doesn't like unions? The government tells you they like unions, especially railroad unions. You ain't never going to see anybody standing with the railroad union. You're going to see them broken up into separate little tiny unions. You know, like I pulled the lever and I shut whatever the hell on a train. Uh,

It reminds me of the Soviet Union was famous for breaking up unions, right? In Poland, didn't they come in there with tanks because they had a union riot? Whatever authoritarian thing there is, they all hate you collective bargaining. And the only collective bargaining that's okay is for nonsense that shouldn't be an issue like that. Yeah.

So, again, the only power workers have is the threat of a strike. So the government comes in, takes it away, just like Joe Biden came in and took it away from the railroad union here in the United States. And then they got screwed, just like the workers in Canada are going to get screwed. And nobody seems to care, right? Because the media is controlled by the same people who want to screw those unions.

That's why. So you don't hear anything about it, except you hear about it on places like this or on TikTok channels like this or Twitter. You're not going to hear about it. So people don't care. And then people like, oh, unions make everything worse. The only power workers have.

Is to collectively bargain. That's the only power they have. That's a successful op. That's a successful thing. That's right. To put down people's heads? Yep. To get work. It's the same thing when they get workers. They hate minimum wage workers, right? Oh, well, they shouldn't get a living wage just to flip burgers. You mean people who work at restaurants?

People who work at restaurants, which are wildly popular. Everyone loves to go to restaurants. They get hamburgers and chicken sandwiches and pizza and every other... People are wildly popular. Those people who generate billions of dollars in profits for those restaurants, you call them fast food places. I call them restaurants. Somehow they're not allowed to make a decent living. Why are they not allowed to make a decent living if they're performing a function that

that the business needs to be performed, and they're generating billions of dollars in profits. So you've been, as Russell Dobular says, you think like a peasant.

Your brain has been conditioned by the oligarchy to think like a peasant. And somehow they go, oh, well, those aren't never meant to be career jobs anyways. They talk about the fast food workers. Oh, that used to make me furious. Says who? Do you know that almost, I think over half of the workers at fast food, they're just supposed to be workers and teenagers. You mean in high school, being those kind of things. So why does McDonald's stay open during school hours all year?

Who the hell do you think is working there then? That's my favorite thing. This is why I despise your classic conservative, oh, they just don't like the dignity of hard work. I always talk about somebody who's like the dignity of work. You ever have a harder work than fast food? Yeah, and I worked at fast food. And then when you can't live on the shitty money of fast food, they go, that's a teenager's job. Oh, my dignity evaporated. Look what happened to all my dignity. Yeah.

So that – but that's – by the way, that's what mind control is, is to divide everybody along stupidity and then you're programmed to have a gut – unions make everything worse. Well, I'll tell you what. The Writers Guild compromised as it is at this point. I would have had no healthcare for a while. Like –

Stuff you work on that makes millions of dollars for somebody. You would have nothing if not for that guild. And they're not even good anymore. And they're not even good. Imagine how much actors and people like me would have been exploited. I remember when I first got the phone call to go do the CBS television show. I was like, yeah, how much is this going to cost me? They're like, no, we're going to pay you. I'm like, what? I get paid because I would pay you to go on television. But that's what it was.

what a union does for you right and uh are there problems with certain unions yes there are that doesn't mean you throw the baby out with the bat water i would count on a problem i would count on a problem because if it's any good the union they're gonna have to infiltrate it and they're gonna have to start bringing in all that bullshit we are all wearing masks because covet is still out there you see the democratic socialist tweet from that girl yeah that

That that's the garbage. And you start here. Please don't applaud. Make jazz hands instead of applauding. Yeah. So they introduced garbage. That's out of a CIA handbook. How to be annoying. You're going to be infiltrated by the company and they're going to try to make it into something awful. So you hate unions, but it's just a basic thing. Like a one-on-one. I would rather advocate for myself. Sure.

But I have a manager for what I do, right? To advocate for me. And then I will if I have to. If you're working with a giant company and not like a small business, you literally can't advocate for yourself within a giant company. There's no chance of that.

Okay. Nobody wants to be in a union. They have to be. You have to be. Exactly. Oh, you know, and it's been proven that union workers make higher wages, have better working millions of times over and over. And when unions were strong in this country is when everybody bragged about the middle class and people wanted to come to the United States so they could join the middle class. Well, now union membership is under 10% of workers in this country and everybody knows workers are being screwed left and right.

So and the only the only thing that you get back at that, the only way you could fight back is through collective bargaining through a union. And that's why Starbucks, that's why that's why the businesses fear them so much. Right. Starbucks does everything to break those unions. Amazon does everything to break those unions. And Jeff Bezos is worth, I think, like a half a trillion dollars now. He's got a yacht that's as big as a city block.

And but his workers are, you know, so the whole point is he's going to vote Kamala. And there's paper is going to promote her as pro union. That's right. His his Washington Post is going to show Kamala where unions are good. Yes. Unbelievable. So anyway, that that's so the same thing they did to them. So you don't think railroad workers deserve a decent living? You don't think railroad workers deserve that deserve? Who does that?

Is that also a high school job? Is that also a job? You're not supposed to be a career. What? I mean, these what else isn't supposed to be a career? How about how about food stocker at the at the supermarket? How about the cashier at the supermarket? How about an Uber driver? How about how about a taxi driver? How about a bus driver? How about a janitor? How about a maid? Are any of these jobs that are they all supposed to also not supposed to be careers? These are jobs that businesses need done and then humans show up to do them.

And so if you have to employ someone as a full-time worker, they should be able to make a living wage. I mean, they should be able to afford an apartment and food and healthcare in the neighborhood they work. That's what a living wage is. Can they afford? People always go, what's a living wage? Well, you know, in Los Angeles, if you make $20, they just raised it to $20 an hour. So that comes out to about $40,000 a year if you work full-time. Yeah.

The average one-bedroom apartment in Los Angeles runs you about $30,000 a year. Right. Just to let you know. So that's still not a living wage, $20 an hour. You can't afford the fast food at the fast food place that you work at. Yeah, you cannot afford to live, eat, and have healthcare and transportation at $20 an hour if you work full-time. Hey, look, you want to keep it low? Keep the wages low? You're going to have to stop on...

inflating the money so you can go off these dumbass wars and you're gonna have to stop jacking up the prices of real estate and do it. There's other ways if they don't want to pay, but they're not gonna, those sectors are entrenched just like the mafia. Yeah.

And when people talk about the unions, oh, but then the mafia gets into it. Oh, yeah. The mafia union days, those battle days when people had houses like, yeah, how about we just don't have the mafia in it and you still have the living, the standard of living of a mafia run union. We don't even have that. We don't even have that.

So there's never been a bigger divide between the rich and the poor than there is right now in the United States. The income inequality in the United States, I bet it's comparable in Canada.

You got to go back to the times of the Egyptian pharaohs. I used to say since the Gilded Age. Now it's worse than that. You got to go back to the time of pharaohs in Egypt to find an income inequality as big as it is right now in the United States. All right, over to Steph. At least when it was a depression, they said it was a depression that time. Yes. And the pictures looked a lot nicer than downtown LA, I must say. That's right.

It didn't look as bad during the Depression as it does now in downtown LA. It's worse. This is worse than the Depression, whatever anybody wants to tell you, by all stats. As we've learned from Paul the Gold Guy and all the other people who come on, that they don't count unemployment the way they used to, even in the 80s.

They changed the way they count unemployment. So now they can tell you, oh, unemployment's only 4% or 5% when actually unemployment's around 15 to 20. Maybe some people I've heard say 25%, which is what the unemployment rate was during the Great Depression. Yeah, that's exactly right. Except Great Depression houses were more affordable. That's right. Everything was. It identifies as a better economy. Okay. I wanted to show you this.

So this guy is Robert Reich, and he used to be in the Clinton administration, and he was the Secretary of Labor, I'm pretty sure. And he wrote an article about how they should arrest Elon Musk and free speech is bad. I'm not kidding. He says Elon Musk is rapidly transforming his... This is real. Look at the title. The title is Elon Musk is out of control. Here's how to rein him in.

There you go, Bob, living up to your last name again. Am I right? Come on. So Elon Musk is a billionaire who has defense contracts and is in bed with the CIA, but he's rogue in a little bit of a way. He steps out of line a little bit with Twitter, and he allows certain types of free speech sometimes. That's too much for the establishment.

That's too much. They got to get him back in 100 percent of the time. That's all this is. It's same thing with Trump. Trump was an establishment billionaire. They gave him his own television show for 10 years. Everybody loved him. They all golfed with them. They all put him on Saturday Night Live, late night talk shows, cover magazines. They loved him. And then he stood out, got out of line just a little and said, we shouldn't do those wars in the Middle East. And that was it.

He thought the president should control the military and the intelligence community. That was it. He's too much. He's rogue. We got to get him back in line. And that's what they're doing to Elon Musk and Twitter. That's why he just got banned in Brazil. So...

Elon Musk is rapidly transforming his enormous wealth, he's the richest person in the world, into a huge source of unaccountable political power. You mean like, unlike all the other hugely rich billionaires who run the world? You mean like how accountable Bill Gates is? You mean about how accountable Jeff Bezos is? You mean like how Jeff Bezos bought the Washington Post? Do you think he did that because he's concerned about the truth or because he wants to shape the narrative?

And other authorities. So they said it's a huge source of unaccountable political power that's now backing Trump and other authoritarians. So that's the problem. It's a rich guy who's on the opposite side of the politics that you are. That's the that's it right there. It's in the first paragraph. That's the whole problem. Not that he's rich, not that he has unaccountable power, not that he it's that he backs this guy Trump. We don't like that's it.

That's the, that's Musk owns Twitter for, uh, he publicly endorsed Donald Trump. That's it. That's the whole problem. Elon Musk, who used to be a consider himself a Democrat, by the way, before that Musk helped form a pro Trump super political action committee. Meanwhile, the former U S president has revived his presence on the Twitter platform. That's, this is all it. I don't like Trump. That's what this is all about. But what makes it horrible is,

is that this guy knows better, Robert Reich, and he's a former Clinton official, and people listen to him. He gets to put his sub stack and it gets printed in the Guardian. And he's calling for the arrest of his political enemies. The thing they claim Trump is doing, he's claiming, I'm going to show you in a second, his way to counter Trump, he recommends arresting him.

uh musk just hired a republican operative with expertise in field organizing to help get out the vote efforts on behalf of trump what he makes it all sound nefarious and bad this is exactly what rich people do you don't think that uh bill gates and jeff bezos and uh uh reed hoffman and george soros you know what do you think they do well that's what that's what rich people do with their money

Okay. All right. This is just amazing to me. Trump and Musk have both floated the idea of governing together if Trump wins a second term. I think it would be great to just have a government efficiency commission, Musk said in a conversation with Trump, and I'd be happy to help out on such a commission. Sounds horrible. Like he puts that in like this is you better be afraid.

"Musk reposted a faked version of Kamala Harris's first campaign video with an altered voice track sounding like Harris and saying she doesn't know the first thing about running the country and is the ultimate diversity hire. Musk tagged the video, amazing. It got hundreds of millions of views so far." Okay, what he is doing is disingenuously framing this. Musk reposted a parody video, not a faked version.

It's called a parody video. It's called comedy. It's called satire. And everybody knew it was. And so this is him now lying to you and trying to trick you. Again, these are the people who are the exact thing they claim to hate. Keith Olbermann, Cenk Uygur, Joe Scarborough, and now Robert Reich. He's got a Trump in his shadow because he's now lying to you and misframing the issue

to try to manipulate you and scare you. That's what's happening. According to the new report from the Center for Countering Digital Hate, which sounds like a totally legitimate organization, the Center for Countering Digital Hate, you know that these are just people with a political point of view and they want to express it. Said the Center for Countering Digital Hate. Really?

They say Musk himself has posted 50 false election claims on Twitter so far this year. How many false claims did Joe Biden make in just one debate? In his first answer, he lied three times. I rewatched it. The first answer, he put three lies in there. So, again, 50 false election claims. According to who? According to this completely mental center for countering digital hate. According to them. Now, we've done it. We've showed you.

that when Elon Musk is spreading disinformation, he's doing it at the behest of the establishment, like when he did it with Venezuela in their election. And we called him out on that. We showed you that. But this is not unique to Elon Musk. This is what everybody does in politics, all the powerful people anyway.

They've got a total of 1.2 billion views. None of them had a community note from Twitter's supposed fact-checking system. Evidence is mounting that Russia and...

So what about all the millions of lies people told about Russiagate? What about all the millions of lies people told about Russia and Trump? And what about all the lies the FBI said and the Democrats said about Russia and Russiagate? What about all the lies they tell about Ukraine? What about all the lies they told about COVID and lockdowns and masks and vaccine? What about all those lies? Don't pay attention to those lies. Let's just pretend that one group of people are lying and that's it.

Evidence is about he's lying right here. That's Russia and other foreign agents are using Twitter to disrupt this year's presidential. You know who's using it? How about Israel? The foreign country that has the most disruptive presence in the United States is Israel. And how do I know? They brag about it. APEC puts out tweets and commercials. They brag about it, about all the hundreds of millions of dollars they're spending on our elections. And they are the ones who are controlling them. Not Russia.

Presumably in favor of Trump, Musk has done little to stop them. Meanwhile, Musk is supporting right-wing causes around the world. Again, anything they don't like is right-wing. Anything. Freedom of speech? Right-wing. Ending a war? That's right-wing. Bodily autonomy? That's right-wing. Anything is right-wing. Um...

At least eight times in the past 10 months, Musk has prophesied a future civil war related to immigration. You know who's prophesied a civil war? Everybody on CNN and MSNBC, Washington Post, New York Times, since Trump got elected. When anti-immigration street riots occurred across Britain, he wrote, civil war is inevitable. I guess he was the only one. He was the only one, I guess.

The European Union Commissioner, Thierry Breton, sent Musk an open letter reminding him of the European Union laws against amplifying harmful content.

that promotes hatred, disorder, incitement to violence or certain instances of disinformation and warning that the European Union will be extremely vigilant about protecting the European Union citizens. So what he's he's sitting there saying that in the European Union, they can write any rule vaguely enough that could catch anybody and silence them if they don't want. And Robert Reich thinks this is a good thing.

So that's what that says to me. That says, hey, I just want to remind you that we can silence you and we can gin up a bullshit cause because that's what this is. That's the establishment saying, don't forget, we control everybody and you don't have freedom of speech. Musk's response was a meme that said, take a big step back and literally fuck your own face. Robert Reich put that in his article. Oh, okay.

Elon Musk calls himself a free speech absolutist. So that's a term. So now they made truth into a toxic word, call you a 9-11 truther. They made truth a bad word. Now they're making free speech a bad word by putting absolutist on the end. You know who else was that? Free speech absolutists? The guys who wrote the First Amendment to the Constitution.

Yeah, isn't that weird? Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, all those guys, the guys who wrote the first 10 amendments, they were also known as free speech. They don't say, Musk calls himself a free speech absolutist, just like the guys who wrote the first amendment.

Because they were all free speech absolutists. They have free speech in Canada, eh? But not like us. They have free speech in France, but then they also have, it says you have free speech, but then we can limit it. They don't have that in the United States. We have freedom of speech. Congress shall make no law abridging free speech. Two days before the Turkish elections, he blocked accounts critical to the president. So here he is admitting that

That most of the time, Elon Musk is actually going along with the establishment and the powerful, and he is censoring. Isn't that weird? Okay. So here's his, he has six recommendations to how they can rein in this rogue billionaire from providing free speech to people and practicing his own politics. One, boycott Tesla. Oh, got no problem. Do whatever you want. Boycott whoever you want.

Number two, advertisers should boycott X. Okay. That's what they did to Tucker Carlson, and it just freed him. And that's why Tucker Carlson, they took away his advertisers. They thought that would make Fox fire him, but he was so popular, they still made money off his show. And so that freed him up to tell the truth about Syria, tell the truth about Ukraine, tell the truth about COVID and lockdowns and vaccines. Regulators, so the third thing, this is the third thing, his third recommendation.

Regulators around the world should threaten Musk with arrest if he doesn't stop disseminating lies and hate. So this is what's known as a mask off moment. So Robert Reich is aptly named Reich because he's revealing he's a fascist. So if you don't censor people, you should be thrown in jail. So if you practice the First Amendment, you should be thrown in jail.

That's a mask off moment for Robert Reich and the liberal class because they all believe this. Global regulators may be on the way to doing this, as evidenced by the 24th of August arrest in France of Pavol Durov, who founded the online communications tool Telegram.

which french authorities have found complicit in hate crimes and disinformation like musk durov is a has styled himself as a free so these people are fascists that's i don't use that word lightly like other people do they call anything they don't like fascism this is the definition every dictator authoritarian and fascist the first thing they do is they censor that's

That's the hallmark of dictators and authoritarians and fascists. Censorship. And this is what the liberal class has turned into. This is what former Clinton official Robert Reich, he wants people censored. Or you get arrested. So this guy does not believe in the First Amendment. This guy is an anti-constitutionalist. He's anti-American. He's literally advocating fascism. Again, I don't use that word lightly. Uh...

Maybe Elon Musk, when he calls himself a free speech absolutist, maybe he just means he gets louder when he's drinking foreign vodka. Anyway, in the United States, the Federal Trade Commission should demand that Musk take down lies that are likely to endanger individuals. Who decides that it's a lie? They said that the Hunter Biden laptop was a lie and they censored it. They said that Russiagate was the truth. Should he censor Russiagate?

And people who are Russiagating, should he kick them off his platform? They said that certain medicine stopped transmission and contraction of a virus. And it didn't. And they knew it didn't when they were saying it. Should he have censored those people? Again, who gets to decide what's a lie and what's the truth? The government? So Robert Reich says the government. Again, the biggest liars are the government. Second is the corporate media. And third, by a long shot, are randos on Twitter.

and social media. So he's advocating for the government to decide what's true and what's false and then imprison you. Musk's free speech rights under the First Amendment don't take precedence over the public interest. Yes, they do. Nothing takes precedence over the First Amendment. So again, he's just telling you he's a... So now any... So you can silence anybody as long as you say you're doing it in the public interest. I'm doing it for the better of the... That's what every dictator says.

Two months ago, the U.S. Supreme Court said federal agencies may pressure social media platforms to take down misinformation. That's not what they said. That's not what the U.S. Supreme Court said. They said that when the White House and the government interacted with social media, that it didn't rise to the level of coercion. Even though it did, the Supreme Court said it didn't. They didn't say it was okay for them to coerce those people. So he's lying. And he knows better.

But he knows that he can lie to the people who read this because they want to believe that lie. Again, he's the thing he claims to hate. This should be taken down because it's a lie. He should be censored because he's lying, right? And who gets to decide? I get to decide that, right? Two months ago, the U.S. Supreme Court said federal agencies may pressure social media platforms. That is not what they said. A technical win for the public good. Technical because the court based its ruling on the plaintiff's lack of standing to sue.

And then he ends with the U.S. government and us taxpayers have additional power over Musk if we're willing to use it. The U.S. should terminate its contracts with him, starting with Musk's SpaceX. Elon Musk is a lesson in the dangers of unchecked corporate leaders. But not anybody else. Just him. Not Jamie Dimon. Not Jeff Bezos. Not Soros. Not Reid Hoffman.

None of those people. Just Elon Musk, because he got out of line a little bit, and he's providing a little bit of free speech on Twitter. Not a lot, a little. Make sure Musk's favorite candidate for president is not elected. You could do that. That's kind of a...

The fact that this is considered, like, he's not afraid to write that stuff. The fact that it gets printed. The fact that he doesn't get kicked out of polite society for being anti-American, anti-First Amendment, anti-Constitutional. He doesn't like the Constitution. He doesn't like it. He doesn't like what America stands for. Hey, become a premium member. Go to JimmyDoreComedy.com. Sign up. It's the most affordable premium program in the business.

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