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Donald Trump has taken a stand on abortion and a despondent nation cheers for the clarity.
So let us see what our once and some say future president has said about the issue. The Republican Party will always support the creation of strong, thriving and healthy American families. We want to make it easier for mothers and families to have babies, not harder. That includes supporting the availability of fertility treatments like IVF in every state in America.
Like the overwhelming majority of Americans, including the vast majority of Republicans, conservatives, Christians and pro-life Americans, I strongly support the availability of IVF for couples who are trying to have a precious baby. What could be more beautiful or better than that?
You gotta love him. Now, rumor is that one of the reasons that Trump, I mean, I believe he doesn't like war. I believe he sees it as wasteful. But I think he's also being a New York real estate scumbag by background and profession, not politician. The kind of evil involved in running America is just a kind of evil he's never even dreamed of.
And according to reports, when they've showed him films of babies and children being killed in war zones, he has exclaimed, oh, those beautiful babies. So rumor has it that Trump is sentimental about babies and children. Anything, Keaton? No. So you're saying he likes babies? I'm saying it's probably not a put on.
It's probably not put on. They say that he saw that footage and said, look at all the beautiful babies. No one has ever loved babies like I've loved babies. It's incredible. All the Secret Service agents talk about it. All the other presidents kick the babies. I'm the only one who likes them. But the IVF, obviously, on a political level, he has to take that off the table and make it clear.
that they're not going to outlaw IVF. So he's getting that one off the table right at the top. Today, I'm pleased that the Alabama legislature has acted very quickly and passed legislation that preserves the availability of IVF in Alabama. They really did a great and fast job. The Republican Party should always be on the side of the miracle of life and the side of mother's father. They're beautiful babies, and that's what we are.
IVF is an important part of that, and our great Republican Party will always be with you in your quest for the ultimate joy in life. Many people have asked me what my position is on abortion and abortion rights, especially since I was proudly the person responsible for the ending of something that all legal scholars, both sides, wanted and, in fact, demanded. Be ended. Both sides? Really? Yeah.
come on everybody wanted roe v wade overturned everybody wanted that everybody wanted it uh even uh i had a i had a tea once with uh notorious uh rbg and uh she said you need to get rid of this thing donald um no no i i think what he's referring to is actually ruth bader ginsburg
did say and other liberal scholars said that Roe v. Wade was poorly decided and that an overturning of Roe v. Wade on legal principles was something that could definitely happen because the logic behind the decision was not really sound.
But that doesn't mean they wanted it. That doesn't mean they wanted it. But a lot of them were saying, including her, that it needed to be codified by Congress, including a lot of Democrats. That's why Obama promised he would codify it. Yes. Which we will get to. Yes, he certainly did.
Roe v. Wade. They wanted it ended. It must be remembered that the Democrats are the radical ones on this position because they support abortion up to and even beyond the ninth month. I have never I have never in my life and I am from the New York theater community. I have never in my life met somebody who thought that ever. Have you?
Up to and beyond the ninth month. Up to the 13th birthday. Yes, yes, exactly. Up until they get bar mitzvahed. You get your open season on the babies, on the beautiful babies.
Yeah, I've never met anyone who thought that. That's a complete straw man. And I've known the most, I just can't live in this country anymore with people who are this deranged in it kind of liberals. And I've never met anyone who believed that. Right. All right.
Concept of having an abortion in the later months and even execution after birth. And that's exactly what it is. The baby is born. The baby is executed after birth is unacceptable. And almost everyone agrees with that. My view is now that we have abortion where everybody wants it. They have an electric chair in the hospital at some of these places. Some of these blue state hospitals, they have a little tiny electric chairs for the beautiful babies. Yeah.
They put the beautiful baby in.
With a bowl of water in it. Oh, boy. The states will determine by vote or legislation or perhaps both, and whatever they decide must be the law of the land. In this case, the law of the state. Many states will be different. Many will have a different number of weeks, or some will have more conservative than others, and that's what they will be at the end of it.
Some will give you until sundown to make the county line before they come for you with nets and fishing poles. That's up to them. That's a state decision. You've ever seen Planet of the Apes when they come on horseback? Some states are going to do that to pregnant women. But that's up to them. Today, this is all about the will of the people. You must follow your heart or, in many cases, your religion or your faith.
Do what's right for your family and do what's right for yourself. Do what's right for your children. Do what's right for our country and vote. So important to vote. At the end of the day, it's all about will of the people. That's where we are right now. And that's what we want, the will of the people. I want to thank the six justices, Chief Justice John Roberts, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Brett Kavanaugh, Amy Coney Barrett,
and Neil Gorsuch, incredible people, for having the courage to allow this long-term, hard-fought battle to finally end. This 50-year battle over Roe v. Wade took it out of the federal hands and brought it into the hearts, minds, and vote of the people in each state. It was really something. Now it's up to the states to do the right thing. Like Ronald Reagan, I am strongly in favor of exceptions for rape,
incest, and life of the mother. You must follow your heart of this issue, but remember, you must also win elections to restore our culture and, in fact, to save our country, which is currently, and very sadly, a nation in decline.
Our nation needs help. It needs unity. It needs us all to work closely together. Democrat, Republican, liberal, conservative, everyone, we have to work together. We have to bring our nation back from the brink. And that's where it is. It's at the brink. And we will. We will do it. I promise you, we will do it. Always go by your heart. But we must win. We have to win.
We are a failing nation, but we can be a failing nation no longer. We will make our nation great. We will make our nation greater than ever before. Thank you very much. Okay, so my initial thoughts, you know, it's what you say. He's a bad businessman, but he's actually a good politician. If you're running as a Republican...
And you actually don't want to face the post-Roe backlash that Republicans keep facing where they keep underperforming the polls. What other position are you going to take? He can't be pro-choice, right? I mean, states, okay, well, the libs live in states that are not going to vote for him anyway.
So they're going to feel secure that their voting rights, their abortion rights are protected. And the people who really care about this live in states where abortions, you know, you're going to only be allowed to have it if you've been, you know, abducted and impregnated by aliens. So...
politically, it's about the best you can do is throw it back to the states. That's the only thing you could do. I mean, you risk losing to Joe Biden if you take the kind of hard line that a lot of the staunch right-wingers want you to take. I mean, that's the only way you really could lose this is by scaring the shit out of too many people in too many swing states about a national ban. So, yeah, I mean, that's obviously the right thing for him to do there from a...
political standpoint um it's it's a no-brainer that that's really the only move i have to say though i don't understand i never understood the incest loophole for rape and incest we're going to allow abortions why incest rape i understand if that's a non-consensual sex act and a woman gets pregnant from that okay but if you're a pro-lifer and a brother fucks his sister and the sister gets pregnant why should she have the right to an abortion if you're a pro-lifer what that why
I mean, what? What's different about that? So, Keaton, are you coming out as being to the right of Trump on abortion?
I'm just saying if I were pro-life, if I thought abortion were murder and I thought the life of a child was sacred and a consensual sex act took place between siblings and the sister got pregnant, why as a pro-lifer would I make an exception for that woman? You know, it's an interesting point because I think most of us, if you're not a sick bastard, when you hear this, you assume it's non-consensual. You don't think about the flowers in the attic possibility. Right.
If it's consensual incest, then I don't see why that should be an exception. Well, you know, there is. It's called GSA, genetic sexual attraction. It is a thing where you'll have generally not who have been raised together, although that happens sometimes. You've had cases where like separated at birth kids or kids who were raised in different houses wind up getting together like that later on. There was a couple in...
What's that? Don't get me wrong. I'm pro-choice, so this isn't my battle. This isn't my hill to die on. I'm just asking questions. I'm just trying to understand the opposite point of view. Hang on. Misha's telling us a story. Oh, no. It was a story Jimmy covered. Oh, okay. There was a...
A fertility doctor, yeah, who is impregnating everybody in town. Oh, you're talking about her high school boyfriend was her brother and she didn't know? No, no, no. I mean, there are couples like this. There's one in Germany that has had multiple children.
And has been, I think, suing the government for the right to marry. Right. You know, when you got like consenting adults like that, it gets very dicey. I mean, it's not illegal. I think in Germany it is illegal. I think that's what the issue was. I don't think here it's actually illegal. But this segment has taken a really odd turn with that question. I'm just trying to understand the position. Okay. If you believe that it's murder.
Under any circumstances, well, then that's an argument against any exceptions. Right, because if you're worried about birth defects, I mean, they don't make those kinds of exceptions. That's what the extreme Christian right would argue. Right, that's the extreme position. There is no exception. That's Matt Walsh's position. Right, exactly. Which we're going to bring up, right? If you believe it's murder, so it's not even just incest. Like, the argument you're making for incest, that would apply to anything. That would apply to rape as well. So...
The conservative community, as you're kind of predicting here, was very split over this decision. So this is a conservative host, Bill Mitchell. This was the only position Trump could take and hope to win in November. He just brilliantly took away the Democrats' number one issue. However, Hercules was of a different mind. Kevin Sorbo said, this is disappointing. Take a stand.
And we have here Red Eagle politics. Trump just took the issue of abortion off the table. Anyone throwing a fit about that statement doesn't understand how politics work and cares more about virtue signaling than actually being pro-life. And Trump, I mean, whoever wrote that speech for him did try to work that in like, hey, you can't change the culture without winning elections. That was a dog whistle to people who are going to have that objection.
And then the aforementioned Matt Walsh.
There is no, this was actually in reaction to Trump's anticipation of the statement in which he telegraphed what he was going to say here. And Walsh says there is no such thing as abortion rights. Rights are God given and God does not give anyone the right under any circumstance to kill children. So you and Matt Walsh are kind of together on this. You guys are...
I'm just saying. Maybe we can get him on the show. If I were. Look, I'm going to clip this. I'm going to send it to Walsh and maybe we can get him as a guest. But it's funny. Yeah, right. Yeah. Fat chance of that. I did pick up, though, on Donald Trump's use of the word abortion rights. I did pick up on that. Walsh wasn't the only one to pick up on that. That is a strange thing.
phrase for a Republican to use because they are framing it as a women's rights issue by using the word abortion rights. But Walsh had a string of pretty harsh, uh,
tweets about this and um for a while i actually thought that he had turned on israel because he seemed to be very harshly criticizing child murder you know he's going on and on about hello yeah no it's terrible to kill children the mass murder of children could never be allowed i thought wow did he turn on israel is he gone is he out at the daily wire now is this another feud oh no it's in in uh
reaction to this. So but yeah, no, I did pick up on that phrase, though. And that was that did sort of set something off in me because this is absolutely a compromise. It's a pivot to the center. But it's something that look, Trump, as I've said, as you mentioned earlier, is
He was known as being a novice politician, but a good businessman. He's actually the opposite. He's a lousy businessman, but very, very good at this game. And this was the only move. It's the only move. They could not double and triple down on a national ban, even if it was an agreed upon number. Because if you remember, his first move out of the gate was we're going to come up with a number that everybody will be happy with. Well, if that number is a maximum number,
A period of time, even if that's 12 weeks, even if it's 12 weeks or 15 weeks, that's still a national restriction past that point. And that's just a nonstarter. I mean, you are really endangering yourself unnecessarily if you are the GOP staking out a.
position that has proven to be not only very threatening to you, but it has actually cost you a lot of very, very winnable races, not only in the midterms, all of these ballot measures. Kansas voted 60-40 to codify abortion rights in their state constitution, right? So, I mean, even in places where you would never think
This would hurt you. It has hurt you. And so this was an absolute no brainer from that standpoint. And there have been a couple of abortion of I'm sorry, anti-abortion groups that
that have come out and said we're disappointed in this but we have to beat biden's right they sound like the libs now they sound like the democrat groups now oh yeah it's too bad about biden and you know medicare for all or genocide in gaza but we have to beat trump so we'll be there like that's what these groups are doing now because they feel that they have to and
And so, you know, he's doing what he has to do. I mean, that that's the only move as I see it. Well, and that just demonstrates that it was the move because that's always been the question. Well, are they going to stand on principle if the Republican nominee at all challenges their maximalist views on abortion? Apparently not.
Yeah, you have a few diehards, but hey, man. All right. Matt Walsh, I do get the impression that he is kind of a committed Christian that way. Maybe he'll just not vote. Maybe he is one of those. I don't think that goes for most of them. When it comes down to Trump versus Biden.
Come on, man. They're going to show up for Trump. And and he is a good politician. He'll he'll he'll throw enough dog whistles out there that will keep them satisfied. And frankly, in the end, in the end, I'm sorry to tell this to two people who are very upset about the overturning of Roe v. Wade.
You're probably never getting that back like without a major just complete shift in our politics and cultures. You're talking generations from now because you're not going to get any codification past the filibuster. That's not going to happen. So you're not going to get it through Congress. And certainly you got six conservatives on the court. You're not getting it through the court.
So in the end, states' rights is where it's going to be. I mean, if you want a more cheerful note, the filibuster goes the other way too. They're not going to be able to create a national ban either. States, it's going to be up to the states for the foreseeable future, not for a few years, for decades. Like this is it. This is how it's going to be. So why even take a stand on something that it's a fait accompli, like this is it. This is where it is.
There's no political way to change this now. Yes, I agree. All right. So the White House issued a statement, wasted no time. So this is from the Biden-Harris administration. Trump is simply lying. There was no groundswell of support in America for overturning Roe. True. In fact, support for Roe is higher today in America than it has ever been. Probably true.
The real truth is Trump made a political deal in 2016. He promised to appoint a court that would get rid of Roe, and he had to make good on that debt, so he did. All right, so far. All passes the smell test. It was never about public policy or what was right or what Trump believed. Agreed. You know Trump is pro-choice. Come on. It was always about politics. Absolutely.
Trump admits as much in his statement today, having created the chaos of overturning row. He's trying to say, Oh, nevermind. Don't punish me for that. I just want to win. Yeah. Trump is scrambling. He's worried that since he's the one responsible for overturning row, the voters will hold him accountable in 2024. Well, I have news for Donald. They will. America was built on personal freedom and Liberty. Yeah.
So, well, for some people. So there is nothing more un-American than having our personal freedoms taken away. And that is what Donald Trump has done. As I have said many times since the Dobbs decision, Donald Trump and all those responsible for overturning Roe don't have a clue about the power of women in America. But they are about to find out.
Well, that that is very reassuring that at least the Democrats have our back because they have really, really good history of protecting abortion rights and not keeping the issue alive for their own political benefit. Hey, here's Michelle Obama right after it leaked that they were going to strike down Roe. You might remember a couple of weeks before the decision there was this leak that
It's been a tough couple of weeks since we saw the leaked SCOTUS draft opinion on abortion. Even if we knew the courts were heading toward this day, it doesn't make the frustration, grief and fear any less real. You know, I don't know if Obama had to sleep on the couch for a couple of weeks or
after this decision came down or if she just has a really short memory or maybe she didn't watch Mehdi Hassan's segment on this, which I'm shocked they allowed to air on MSNBC. I don't know. I think Michelle had to sleep on the couch after this. You think so?
yeah think maybe I'm alter view says remember when President Obama said the code of I codifying Roe v. Wade into law was not his top priority so let's take a little walk back down memory lane he said passing the freedom of choice act a bill that would have cemented the right to choice as law of the land was important to him how important have a listen
What would you do at the federal level, not only to ensure access to abortion, but to make sure that the judicial nominees that you will inevitably be able to pick are true to the core tenets of Roe v. Wade? Well, the first thing I'd do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act. That's the first thing. First thing. Well, guess what? It wasn't the first thing he signed into law, but it was still a top priority, right? Freedom of Choice Act is not my highest legislative priority.
Hmm. Hmm. Wow. That was quite a turnaround once he got into office. It was the first thing he was going to do and he never did it. So when Democrats come out and cry crocodile tears about the loss of Roe v. Wade and its protections, they played a game with women's choice for decades because it was politically convenient. They didn't want to lose that issue.
And now they make it coming and going. It's very heads I win, tails you lose. They overturn Roe. They can fundraise off it. Double what they were fundraising. It's a lot more, right? Before it was just protect Roe. Now it's we have to restore Roe. They're making money hand over fist. In the end, they really don't care about women who are going to go get back alley abortions. If they did...
It would have been codified and none of this ever would have happened. So when Biden, who was part of that administration, stands up there and screams about how Donald Trump doesn't care about abortion rights, well, neither do you. Yeah, and it's still more a campaign issue than it is anything else. There are still blue state governors who forego chances to perhaps strike a compromise with a Republican party
a legislator about a limit, you know, that guarantees rights up to a certain point, but not pass a certain point. Right. Which would settle the issue. It would take a lot of the suspense out of it. Right. And obviously there's a cost to that, but there's obviously tremendous benefit to that in the sense that you codify a certain amount of abortion rights in that, uh,
particular area, which then guarantees a certain rights within those lines. They forego that to keep it alive as a campaign issue because it's a giant fundraising issue. And so that remains even post Dobbs.
Well, this well, this is where I guess I can do this reveal. We have Matt Taibbi joining us on Wednesday where we're going to be getting into, among other things, his recent very controversial posting to notes about how he considers the Democrats a greater threat. And one of the responses from I believe that was one of Jelani's responses, i.e. Jelani, was about abortion rights.
Well, what about the Republicans? Okay, well, so the Democrats are going to say nice things, but they're just going to use the issue to fundraise off of. And the Republicans from the other side are going to fundraise off of it. But in the end, what are the Democrats actually going to do about it?
other than funding. Yeah, and in such a polarized era, you're not going to get one party with a 60-seat Senate majority anytime soon. Right. And this is one issue where even the Republicans wouldn't suspend the filibuster to pass a national ban because they think that that is too toxic a stand to take, as evidenced by the fact that Donald Trump will leave and the party won't take it. Right, right. Yeah. ♪
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So just try take and bake for $12 every Tuesday at Papa Murphy's change the way you pizza fun segments, the rock versus the view. Get ready to rumble. So the rock went on Fox news. Um, you know, last election, he endorsed Joe Biden. Um, and so he was asked, he was on the well cane show. Um, and he was asked if he was going to make an endorsement again, um,
and his answer caused a lot of reactions. Am I happy with the state of America right now? Well, that answer is no. Do I believe we're going to get better? I believe in that. I'm an optimistic guy and I believe we can get better. The endorsement that I made years ago with Biden was what I thought was the best decision for me at that time. And I thought back then when we talk about, hey, you know, I'm in this position
where I have some influence and it's my job then, I felt like that then, it's my job now to exercise my influence and share with, this is who I'm gonna endorse. Am I gonna do that again this year? That answer's no, I'm not gonna do that because what I realized, and I didn't realize it back then, Will, but I realize it today,
And back then, just like I am today, very lucky, I was then the most followed American man in the world, and I am today the most followed American man in the world, and I appreciate that. But I also realized that what that caused back then was something that tears me up in my guts back then and now, which is division.
And that got me and I didn't realize it then I just thought hey our country feels like there's a lot of unrest It feels like I would like things to calm down Maybe we need a change This is what I'm gonna do and this is who I'm gonna endorse the takeaway after that months and months and months I started to realize like oh man that caused an incredible amount of
division in our country. So I realize now going into this election, I'm not going to do that. I wouldn't do that because my goal is to bring our country together. I believe in that in my DNA. So in the spirit of that, there's going to be no endorsement. Not that I'm afraid of it at all, but it's just I realized that this level of influence, I'm going to keep my politics to myself. And I think it's between me and the ballot box. But I will tell you this,
Well, like a lot of us out there, not trusting of all politicians, I do trust the American people. And I trust that whoever they vote for, that's going to be my president. That's who I'm going to support 100%. I trust, by the way, I feel the exact same way. I trust Americans. No matter the state of this country, no matter its political leadership, I inherently trust the moral backbone, the culture that is uniquely American.
Okay, so for those of you who are too young to remember, you know what he sounds like? A movie star from back in the day. Because it used to be, you didn't know who these people voted for. You know, I don't think it's a coincidence that a lot of people call him the last movie star. You know who Tom Cruise votes for? Now it used to be. Because they saw themselves as...
being an entertainer for all the people and not all of them, but most of them felt like getting into presidential politics like that would, I mean, on a commercial level, damage their brand because then you have a big swath of the population that's not going to want to see your stuff. And you could definitely argue that part of the troubles Hollywood is having now is
is a result of having an entire generation of actors who have all taken one political perspective and been very vocal about it and lost a huge swath of the country's interest.
in the work they produce as a result of that because they see them as enemies and they've gone out of their way to present themselves like that. So the rock now, a lot of people have distorted what he said and took the quote out of context. It rips me up inside. They've tried to make it that that was some kind of a statement about how he felt about the fact that he had voted for Biden when obviously saying he's sorry that he put himself in a position of causing division and an already
contentious country. Keaton? Well, people have also been floating that he should run for president. I'm going to get into that. Remember that? Even in the mid-aughts, people were like, oh, The Rock should run for president. I just wonder what the origin story is of
people giving a shit what he thinks about anything. Like, why him? Is it just because he's a big star? I think it's because he's well, he said it himself. He's the most followed man in America. That's why. And he's very liked. He's likable. Look at that little clip. I mean, whatever you think of what he said, he's likable. He reads as a very likable guy. I do think that Trump
becoming president with no experience did lower the bar on what people expect. I think they're much more open to the idea of just grabbing a likable guy. Well, sure thing. Sure thing. But, but they've been talking about him running even before he talks about, I've got a clip of him with Rogan at the end where he talks about that. Um,
He's clearly decided not to go that way. So it's from the Washington Examiner. This is the ladies of the view. I got to say, other than Sonny Hostin, who seems to be, you know, their resident person with the horrible take.
takes warrant terrible. They definitely could have been worse. So let's take a look. He's been quite political. I agree with you. And he's been very engaged and very involved. I do think we're living in a time where we have someone running for president that is an existential threat to democracy. That is where we are at.
Someone who has been, has 88, you know, criminal charges, four indictments. Someone that has vowed to be a dictator on the very first day he takes office. Now is the time. If you have a platform, you must be active. You must speak out.
That's how I feel. I was a little bit surprised that The Rock said this because I consider him kind of an activist in the sense that he at one point talked about potentially running for office. There was a poll that said as many as 46% of Americans would want him to run for office. So I thought it was notable in an election with the stakes this high that this is the time he chose to sit it out. But that said, I completely agree with Sarah's point, which is I don't know that The Rock has a
poor constituency. It's not like Republicans are waiting to hear what he says or Democrats are and they're going to decide based on that. The most important thing he could do is encourage young people to get out and vote and let them make out up for themselves. There are some endorsements that I think have mattered tremendously. I remember when Oprah Winfrey endorsed Barack Obama when he was running. That's true. And that one was incredibly significant, made a difference. She not only endorsed, she went out and came
pain. And she wanted to do that and felt that to her bones and that is great. Listen, if they don't want to get involved, respect to them. If they want to get involved and use their platform, leave them alone too.
Which I would say that's fair enough. I think generally they're right. It doesn't really matter. Although if The Rock actively campaigned for somebody, you know, we're just talking about elections that are decided on the margins. But I don't know. I think he would probably be more likely to damage his own brand.
In terms of what Sonny Hostin had to say, which again, the queen of bad takes, the rest of them were pretty reasonable here. Okay, so Julian Assange is dying in a prison in England. Biden could drop those charges on any given day. He's not doing it. They challenged the lower court ruling up to the Supreme Court regarding the right of the intelligence services to intimidate tech platforms regarding censorship.
So the whole argument that Trump is an existential threat to democracy in a way that Biden isn't, I mean, that's the point RFK was making. And yeah, man, I'm no RFK fan, but the fact that
You're not giving Secret Service protection to an actual candidate. I mean, he's not like a joke candidate like Marianne is never going to be on any ballots like he's actually going to be on ballots. That that is a disgrace. Like you're not going to give a Kennedy Secret Service protection. Are you serious? So he's he's right about that. So, you know, that whole argument, I don't think really lands with people. Keaton.
Yeah, well, there's not much in it to endorse a candidate in a race where both candidates are pretty horribly unpopular. Like both of these candidates are widely disliked by most people.
And most of the support for each candidate has to do with hatred of the other one more than love of the candidate. So there's really nothing in it for you as an apolitical public figure to inject yourself into this. And that's why I think he's not going to. There's really no point to doing it. And as for this being such a high stakes election where the future of democracy is on the line,
Well, the only people who really feel that way are the people who are dying the wool blue, no matter who, anyway. And so what if the rock endorses Biden, he'll make them happy. He's not bringing in any people. I don't think, you know. And so, yeah, it makes no sense that that he would get, you know, involved either way. All right. So now now a point I think a lot of us made in 2016 and in 2020 and we make all the time.
is the vote blue no matter who people are the Republican Party's greatest asset and the Trump derangement syndrome people all the more so they are really like a living advertisement for voting for Donald Trump when you look at these people like Keith Olbermann foaming at the mouth
But this is Jennifer Lewis. She was an actress on Black-ish. She's been around for a long time, both in TV, film, stage as well. This has been going around. This clip went kind of viral. She went on to a podcast and made some really, really interesting claims about why you're not allowed to sit out this election and why everyone has to get involved.
As soon as he takes the oath, he will have generals walk down the steps of the Capitol. He will take a hammer and break the glass where the Constitution is, and he will tear it up in our faces and say, now, I'm the king of the fucking world. That's so funny. You will fall down, bitches.
He will punish everybody that didn't vote for him. Let me tell y'all how I know this shit. I know it because I know what mental illness looks like. You know what mental illness looks like, yeah. That mania is unstoppable. Is that right? Wow. See, this motherfucker's Hitler. He didn't come to play.
As I've always said, Donald Trump is very lucky in his enemies. If I were Donald Trump, I would send her out to campaign for Joe Biden. Is it too late to book her on Wednesday? That would be awesome. Okay, so as a man coming out of the theater, I got to tell you, I would cast her all day and all night. She'd be great. But this is why, as a rule, I think The Rock is right.
actors shouldn't talk about politics because this is what you get when they start talking keep it on the stage keep it on the stage i would cast her in a heartbeat i'm sure she'd i'm sure she's brilliant on the stage judging by this but uh when you apply it to politics looks a little unhinged looks a little unhinged this this is this is all the conservatives love this clip now they're spreading it around this this is what you get because you watch this do you want to vote
The way that she thinks you should vote? Or do you feel like, wow, maybe I better look at this guy because she's against him. How bad could he be?
I mean, I want to look at Trump because I'm excited at what he might do. I mean, that would be the greatest inauguration speech ever. Rather than him swearing on a Bible, you know, they had to put your right hand on the Bible. You wouldn't have a Bible. They'd wheel out the Constitution in the glass case. They'd give him a hammer. All right, you're sworn in. Bang! I'm the king of this bitch now. I'm the king of this bitch now.
Guards. I mean, round up everyone who didn't vote for me. I mean, that's a show. I would vote for him based on what she is saying. Even if she is telling the truth, I'd be like, that sounds epic. That sounds like a way to end the country that's on its way out anyway. Who gives a fuck? But
Let's do it that way. You know, actually, that's more fun. And I thank you. Thank you. My fellow Americans for trusting me. Who wants to go out like that when you can go out like this? It does have a certain Vegas floor show kind of an appeal.
Yeah. If Trump were actually to break the glass with a hammer and say that. Break the glass with a hammer. I'm king of the world now, bitches. Supreme Court justice hands him a hammer. I'm the king now, bitches. All right. So she's threatening us with a good time. That's your take.
Yeah, absolutely. 100%. That sounds amazing. I love that idea. She seriously miscalculated by painting that image because you're not the only person I've seen say that. Actually, Greg Foreman on the Black Conservative, he showed that video and he said...
If Trump actually did that, that would be pretty based. All right. So you mentioned that the rock has been talked about in this political context. So he did an interview with Joe Rogan mentioning he got approached by both political parties to run for president. Apparently. Oh, at the end of last year. Yeah.
Asking for me to run. Oh, Jesus Christ. I mean, it was. For president? For president. Wow. It was, first of all, incredibly surreal. Right. Because I was the guy, you know, who was wrestling in flea markets. Right. Years ago. Looking for free corn dogs and hot dogs and shit.
Selling my headshots for five bucks trying to make money and then all of a sudden I'm having that conversation. But it was just incredibly surreal and so wild. But also so incredible that they had all this data that they had said, if this happens, here's the result. Oh, wow. It was really deep. And then I started to think, again –
surreal because that's never been my goal right yeah i i appreciate it and i'm honored right because i'm like you in here in our core right but um it made me think it's it's either this is this is an incredible thing and i got some pretty decent leadership skills or things are so done
they're turning to the pro wrestler movie star they try to run the world um i would say the latter i would say the latter no insult to the rock he seems like a perfectly nice guy but yeah i i yes does it say something about the state of the world that basically they approached a gladiator and asked him to be the emperor yeah sure it does uh keaton
Yeah. And, you know, like that last video that we played prior to that is just just more evidence of why he is not going to get involved. Right. Yeah. I always thought it was weird. It's a hole in his head.
Well, yeah. I mean, you don't need it. Like when Oprah endorsed Obama, whatever you feel about Obama, there was a real movement behind Obama. She was attaching herself to something that was seen as this very positive thing amongst a huge cohort of the population. Picking sides between Trump and Biden is the exact opposite move. But,
But as for, yeah, I mean, I know he was approached. I remember hearing this when I was, what was I, 18, 19 at the time? You know, I mean, we're talking about the aughts. And I just asked myself, why? Is it just star power? Is it that he is sort of universally popular in a way that a lot of, as you said, sort of like old time celebrities were? Of course, they were popular precisely because, or not entirely because, but partly because,
They did not inject themselves into fights like that. And so the concept never really made much sense to me. And I do think those were the early symptoms of a dying empire that he was being talked to by each major party long before Trump came around. We were talking about 2005, 6, 7, because I remember hearing those rumors during the Bush years when I was in high school.
I did not know it went back that far because what he's talking about, that he was approached by both parties. Apparently that was around 2022, like pretty recently. I remember hearing about the Rock running for president. Yeah, I didn't realize it went back that far. Going back many, many years. Yeah. Yeah, I think because everyone likes him and that is so rare now. That's so rare. I mean, what the Young Turks were talking about there with Jon Stewart. I mean, conservatives wouldn't vote for Jon Stewart.
most conservative-leaning independents wouldn't vote for Jon Stewart. You'd just be running another lib. It's just you're going to have the lib voters that would be for Jon Stewart. Not only that, the lib voters who are willing to cross the Democratic Party. Right. How many of those are there? Right. Exactly. Right.
Israel warns of consequences to any attack from Iran. Israel told the U.S. if Iran launches an attack from its soil against Israel in retaliation for its deadly strike in Syria earlier this week, it would draw a strong response from Israel and take the current conflict to another level, like a relationship, only genocidal.
An Israeli strike on Damascus earlier this week killed Brigadier General Mohammad Reza Zahedi, a top Iranian Quds Force general in charge of Iran's military operations in Lebanon and Syria. He was killed along with six other Iranian officers in an Israeli strike on a building adjacent to the Iranian embassy in Damascus on Monday.
Why it matters. Iranian officials have publicly threatened to retaliate against Israel for the attack that killed a top Iranian official. The Biden administration and the Israeli government are highly concerned Iran is preparing for an imminent attack. U.S. and Israeli officials said Iranian proxies in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Gaza have attacked Israel.
But there hasn't been an attack from Iranian soil. A direct Iranian strike on Israel would be unprecedented and could lead to a regional war in the Middle East. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said at the top of an Israeli security cabinet meeting on Thursday that Iran has been operating against Israel for years, quote, both directly and via its proxies, and therefore Israel...
is operating against Iran and its proxies, both defensively and offensively. Quote, We will know how to defend ourselves and will operate according to the basic principle of whoever is harming or planning to harm us. We will harm him, he said, according to a statement from his office. In their call on Thursday, President Biden and Netanyahu discussed public Iranian threats against Israel. Quote,
President Biden, excuse me, you know, sometimes with these mic things like that, like buzz will get in your throat. President Biden made clear that the United States strongly supports Israel in the face of those threats, the White House said.
Israeli officials claim they have intelligence that shows Iran could attack Israel from its soil using long-range ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, or drones. Israeli defense forces are on high alert, especially air defense and intelligence units, officials said. The Israeli military canceled all weekend vacations for its combat soldiers.
Now, why should you worry about this other than the obvious? Well,
You're not dealing with an honest actor in Israel or, frankly, in the United States. But particularly in the case of Israel, very much like Ukraine, if you remember, an errant missile fell within Polish territory and Zelensky wasted no time and with no evidence tried to gin up the narrative that Russia had attacked Poland in order to draw us in.
That is very much what could potentially happen here with Israel, but don't take my word for it. Retired Colonel Douglas McGregor went on Judge Andrew Napolitano's show and explained what the dangers are. Mr. Netanyahu must escalate to survive, and he believes that escalating the war is ultimately Israel's salvation. How do you escalate the war?
you goad Iran into attacking you. And this is a direct provocation designed to precipitate a major response from Iran. So it's a foregone conclusion that if Mr. Netanyahu is successful and we are dragged into this, we will end up fighting with the Russians directly. Most of your political class is bought and paid for by the Israeli lobby.
Hatred has taken over. Emotion has taken over. There is no rational calculus unless you want to judge plans for the annihilation of Arabs in Gaza, in the West Bank, and potentially southern Lebanon as a rational calculus.
I don't think you're going to see a deliberate counter-strike from Iranian soil. Because, again, the Iranians don't want a war. This is the thing that has to be understood. Nobody in the region except the Israelis and the United States are enthusiastic about the war. Okay. Keaton?
Well, the other parallel to Ukraine in all of this is that support here in the U.S. for Ukraine has dwindled just as support for Israel has. Yet you would not know that if you paid attention to stories like this, where as Russia-Ukraine becomes more and more
dangerous, we double down more and more to the point where, I mean, there haven't been many headlines out of that war this week, but we are not going to give that up without a fight. And at this point, without a fight means goading Putin into a nuclear confrontation. And on this front, it seems like as support for Israel has just completely bottomed out to the point where now it's at less than 40%,
You see Biden not only saying we will continue to support their operations in Gaza, but now we're going to back them in a potential global conflict. That just doesn't track with the way people are feeling here. And this is why I say like this is this is suicidal, psychotic death cult culture.
Because it is acting with complete disregard for any popular will here. And so who is going to fight these wars? Like, are we going to be able to field an army? Really? I mean, nobody wants any of this. Nobody wants any of this. There is no morale. There is no energy. There is no ethos.
And that is worth fighting for here to the point where this this is just it is it is a suicidal streak in these people that leads them to feel like they can just push this as far as they want, regardless of the reality on the ground. Frankly, we're on the other side of the wall here, but I think this is OK to say.
You know, I think they would be very happy to get rid of some of us in a war. Now, the question is whether you still have a habitable planet at the end of that war. But hey, the A.I. is coming and they don't really need as many of us anymore. And I am increasingly convinced that.
that are global elites are thinking that way. Like, how many of these people do we really need? Once the AI comes, once you really get some good robotics going, what is that, 95% of the population of the Earth works a profession that will no longer be required? So I wonder if that is part of their willingness to engage in this kind of brinksmanship.
Clearly in this country, what is the military reaching 80% of its targets when they try to recruit? Now you've talked a lot about that from the side of morale and I agree with you. It's also health.
I mean, the majority of the country is obese. The majority of people under 18 are obese. I think it's two thirds. Yeah, but if they had the morale, like if they wanted to go fight and we needed people to fight, like we would put fat people on the front line. I think, I mean, I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying like that doesn't strike me as an obstacle to being able to field a team if the military wants to field a team. I don't think they can field the team because I think they would have to
they would have to draft people. They'd have to drag people off the streets like they're doing in Ukraine. Exactly. And that's just going to create more political chaos. But, you know, no, I think you're right. I think I think that what what sort of emboldens them to make these wildly unpopular decisions about war and peace on a global scale is
Is that they're not really invested in the future of the human race. Right. To be honest. Right. You know, whether there's a nefarious plot to kill everybody, that's a different like we can't prove that or not prove that. But they're certainly not invested in our future. Like they certainly don't seem to mind a depopulation event. I think when you've got.
are elite classes doing everything they can to convince people that you can be morbidly obese without it causing any health problems and that the idea that some food is unhealthy is some kind of food phobia. And you're trying to tell people that every kid who ever puts on his mom's heels needs to be on hormone treatments.
every boy. Yeah, I think they're trying to get rid of us because I can't believe the people with any kind of education
actually believe these things. So I have to ask, why are they telling the public that these things are true? Well, the only motive I can see is you're trying to kill people. You're trying to get rid of people. You want to sterilize people. You want there to be less people because you see a future where you don't need workers anymore and you want to maintain your lifestyle and
And you don't want to have to share it with anybody. You know, you want a future Earth with less people where you get to live in this materially opulent paradise. You know, just, you know, 5% of you left and everybody else gone. And I think if that's how you're looking at things, you're going to be very cavalier because, you know, it's not going to be your kids fighting.
And they're not going out on the front lines that that aristocratic ideal of, you know, the right to be of an elevated class being tied to military service. That's that's that's long gone. You know, George H.W. Bush. I think that was like the last generation World War Two.
that had that idea that it would be a shame on a prominent family not to serve in a time of war. That's long gone. It's not going to be them and their kids that are going to be dying in those wars. Well, because it's a whole different world, not just in the moment, but down the road. And they see that. And I think there are forces bigger than all of this
that are not even necessarily human forces. I think there are natural forces behind a lot of it that just creates a different imperative for the future of life on Earth for us humans. And I think that is part of why they feel they can push this as far as they have. That segment got a lot deeper than I was expecting. So for those of you who are baked into
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