Stop Consuming These POISONS Destroying Your Cellular Health! w/ Dr. Joseph Mercola
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Whoa! How's it hanging, Jimmy D? This is Ali P. Pacino. Oh, friend of the show, legendary thespian Al Pacino. How are you? I'm doing great, and I cannot wait to be 88 in four years. That's great, Al. What's been going on in your life? I died. Wait, what? Excuse me?

You heard me. For about a full minute, I went into the great in-memoria montage in the sky. But I came back, baby. But when was this? I didn't hear about this. God damn it. Every time I call, I have to fill you in on Al Pacino recent events. Why don't you come to these phone calls prepared? Hey, all I'm looking, Al, I'm looking into other types of news stories than Al Pacino, okay? Why don't you just fill me in?

Gladly. Okay. So I wrote a memoir, and I'm going around hawking it right now. On a New York Times podcast, I told the following story. In 2020, I got fucking COVID. I don't know, probably from being on the phone talking to your dumb ass. Yeah, I don't think that's how you get COVID, Al.

You don't know that it's not. Anyway, I got a fever. I'm dehydrated. And then I'm just gone. I ain't got no pulse. It's over. Say goodnight to Alphonse. You literally died?

Yeah, but for a minute, somehow they got to me and revived me and brought my pulse back. I came to and was surrounded by people in fucking spacesuits. Imagine that. Put me out of my fucking mind. I'm glad they revived you, Al. Me too. I still had babies to make. Yeah. Yeah.

So the point is the headlines have been that on the podcast I said, there's nothing in the beyond. You die, that's it. I went there and it was just black. No consciousness, no memory, nothing. Take it from me, a former stiff. How's that for fucking spooky season? Well, that's what I suspected, but it's good to have it confirmed by legendary actor Al Pacino.

Except there's one thing, Jimmy. Oh, what's that? I was lying. I knew it! You made up this whole thing about dying. No. I was lying about there being nothing. Ah.

I'm not going to tell the truth about the fucking afterlife to the New York fucking Times. Fuck that. They can find out on their own. I want to tell you the truth and your listeners about the truth of life and death and the meaning of our existence. I'm flattered. Please go on.

Okay, like I said before, I'm lying on the ground. I'm fucking dead. And it's all black, cold black. But then I see a light in the distance. I walk towards it. The light gets bigger. You know how light moves. And I get right up to it. And in the middle of the light, there's a door. And then a man opens the door to greet me. And I recognize this man. Who is it?

This is amazing.

My parents were there. They were happy to see me. Jimmy Hoffa was at the other table, and he told me I was his favorite guy to play him in a movie. But he also said, just know I'm going to say the same thing to Jack Nicholson when he gets here. Frank Sinatra and Tony Bennett were singing a duet. This sounds great. I actually can't wait to die now.

Well, try and hold off for a little bit. They seem a little booked up. John Cazale was still waiting for a table. Okay. Anyway, I ordered appetizers, and then the waiter brought them out and also brought me another Oscar. I stood up and I gave a speech to the restaurant. Everyone was in tears. Well, hold on. Was there any great revelation of truth? Any grand spiritual experience?

Yeah, there fucking was. The pasta dish. Holy shit. I don't know what they put in that sauce, but it definitely some afterlife shit. But Jimmy, just as we were getting to the meat dish, I heard this voice in the distance. Al, Al. And the whole restaurant started to shake like an earthquake. Sure enough, I came to on the floor being shook awake by some parabolic or whatever you call it.

80 years old again and with my old fucking balls and starving. Oh, no. I mean, I guess that's good. No, it's not. I wanted that fucking veal. No offense, Al, but this sounds like a dream. Like a nice dream, but just a dream. Are you sure you were dead? Maybe you just passed out.

Yeah. Well, what did you learn? Yeah.

Coming back to this shit holds the biggest disappointment of my life since the revolution box office receipts. Welcome back to life where there's a screaming baby and my girlfriend is cheating on me with Bill Maher. Whoa. Whoa. Well, we're glad you're back selfishly. Well, we like talking to you, so take care of yourself.

That's the last thing I'm gonna do. I can't wait to go back. I need those cannolis. I can't live like this no longer. Bye!

Right now we have a special guest. This is a mind-blowing guest, best-selling author, Dr. Joseph Mercola is an osteopathic physician. What is that? We're going to find out.

and a board-certified family physician who served as the chairman of the Family Medicine Department at St. Alexis Medical Center for five years. He's a passionate advocate of natural medicine and a wellness champion who's written over 30 scientific studies and reports published in medical journals worldwide.

as well as 15 books, including his latest, Your Guide to Cellular Health. There it is right there, Unlocking the Science of Longevity and Joy. Please welcome back to the show, Dr. Joseph Mercola. Hi, doctor.

Hey, Jenny. So good to be back. How are you? I'm doing great. I just want to let people know that you're a big time bestselling author. Effortless Healing was a New York Times bestseller. Great Bird Flu Hoax, New York Times bestseller. The No Grain Diet, another New York Times. The Truth About COVID-19, also a bestseller on Amazon, USA Today, Wall Street Journal, Publish. So you are very well credentialed and your latest book,

is your guide to cellular health, unlocking the science of longevity and joy. It sounds very, very in the now, but I just want to say, so Casey Means, who's that New York Times number one bestseller, we had her brother on recently, Callie, and here's what she had to say. She said, this book gave me several novel ideas to think about in regards to metabolic crisis occurring in our cells and

and is a useful resource for those seeking to explore new dimensions about how our cells are struggling and how to support them in this modern, increasingly toxic world. So that's interesting right off the bat.

But here's what you say. You say, for 15 years, I struggled with a mind-bending, unexplained rash that would cause me to lose sleep at night because of unrelenting itching. All the physicians I consulted, some of the best out there, had no clue how to resolve it. As I relentlessly searched for a cure, I discovered a crucial concept that

that underpins every aspect of our well-being. Yet it is rarely explored, much less addressed by studying the work of Dr. Ray Peet's bio and

Bio energetic model of health. I have come to realize that virtually every disease is a result of impaired mitochondrial function and an inability to create enough cellular energy. That's what she was just talking about. Yet this all important aspect of health is virtually unknown, which is why I decided to write this book.

Well, tell me, what do you mean by cellular energy? What is that secret that underpins most disease and health? Could you go ahead and take it wherever you want? Well, sure. Everyone knows that you can't run a car without fuel, right? It just doesn't work. And similarly, our bodies are a vehicle that we use to transport us around. And if you don't have enough energy, it's a problem. And the central issue, Jimmy, is that

About 150, 200 years ago, almost everyone produced twice the amount of ATP, which is the cellular currency of our cell. Our body, it's short for adenosine triphosphate. And today, because of the toxic soup of chemical poisons that we live in, and one of them is what you initially invited me on the show for to discuss was the EMS and 5G. That's one of the four poisons. But because of these poisons, we...

radically reduce our ability to produce the cellular energy. And you know what we're down to today? We were, 100 years ago, we were 200, we paid twice our body weight in ATP. What do you think? So what, explain again, you briefly explained about, could you tell me, what is ATP exactly? Okay, it's a chemical. Okay. See, first of all, it's important to know all the energy

in the world is essentially directly or indirectly a result of sun. The sun shines on plants in a process, you know, called photosynthesis, and it creates, the photosynthesis allows that

plant to consume carbon dioxide and produce oxygen and also carbohydrates. That's why we can eat food because those carbohydrates is energy stored from the sun and the animals eat the plants and they create proteins and some proteins in plants too, but essentially that's the food that we eat. That fuels us. We also get fuel from the sun directly, almost similar to plants. Now it's not photosynthesis, it's something called photometabolism where we convert this energy and the whole component is getting this energy into

optimize. And when it's not optimized, there are some very interesting events that occur in your body. And this is something that Ray Peet, who is probably the greatest health educator of the 20th century and really advocated principles, he's not well-known. Virtually no one knows him. But if you're deep into the natural medicine space, many people have been exposed to his work. And he took quite a bit. He passed away about two years ago now.

But he didn't understand some of the aspects of decreasing your cellular energy. And if you don't understand this, you can never get healthy. And one of the main aspects, Jimmy, you need energy to essentially have every function of your body

If you don't have it, you know, there's a poison. You've seen it in spy novels. It's called cyanide. And the agents of spies, when they get caught, they chew on this capsule and they die in seconds. Literally, you've seen it, right? Yeah, of course. Well, cyanide is a chemical and it goes into your body, into the mitochondria. These are the structures inside your cell. Every cell has...

hundreds, if not thousands of them. And they make this ATP. And when you block it, this with cyanide, you stop it. You're dead in seconds. You absolutely have to, you're dead with water. What in a few days, food, maybe 30 days, no longer. If you're really heavy, uh, oxygen, a few minutes, four or five minutes, but when you don't have ATP, you're dead in seconds. And cyanide proves that. So you have to have ATP. It's the most fundamental thing.

fuel for your body and everything else sort of supports it. Oxygen supports your body's ability to make ATP because it mitochondria uses it. So anyways, the question. And so we have less ATP. Human beings are producing less ATP today than we did a hundred years ago. Is that what I heard? How much less? How much less do you think? I'm going to guess 50%.

That's a great guess. That's really phenomenal. It's probably closer to 25% less. Okay. Or 25%, 75% less. In other words, 25% of what we could have done. Really? And so why is that? Have you discovered why that is? Yes, absolutely. I've discussed this all in the book. The book, by the way, is available for pre-sale now on Amazon. It doesn't come out for 11 days. 11 days it comes out. And it's the number one pre-release on Amazon right now. Number one.

And I think it will – I've had a lot of bestselling books. This is the best book I've ever written, better than all the previous ones combined. And I think it will be the best – one of the bestselling books in the world, if not the bestselling book.

Because it helps people understand the primary reason why every single disease has almost the same identical cause. You know, I went to medical school and everyone in medical school, which is a propaganda, you're a big fan of propaganda, so am I. The Rockefellers captured the whole medical school system about 115 years ago. They produced this Flexner Report in 1910.

And they literally captured the entire medical education system. They shifted from natural therapies and they threw it out of the curriculum and they replaced it with pharmaceuticals because, of course, Rockefeller was an oil baron. Right. And most pharmaceuticals are derivatives of oil petrochemicals. So that was even to this day, Jimmy, the Rockefellers directly or indirectly on 50 percent of the drug companies, 50 percent.

Who would have guessed? I would have. So anyway, I forgot. So why do we produce less ATP, 75% less than we did 100 years ago? Well, even 150, because it all started right around the Civil War. And that's when the most pernicious toxin that we know,

if you understand health, was produced. They took seeds from vegetables, like cotton seeds, like canola, soy, corn, and they processed it and made vegetable oils. And they greenwashed it. It's actually seed oils. And these vegetable oils are one of the initial primary drivers that destroy your health. Obesity, diabetes, heart disease, cancer, dementia,

Every one of those are an epidemic, every single one of those, and they all are catalyzed. But the explosion and the increase of this pernicious fat, you only need like a half a gram a day. And people are eating 20, 30, 40, 50 grams a day of this stuff. And it destroys your mitochondrial health. It's a poison. It's an absolute poison. And

it's just shocking that it's almost impossible to avoid, Jimmy. If you go to a restaurant, it's in everything. It's in everything. It's in everything. Just last night, we went to a restaurant and so we started this new thing

is that the waiter will always say to you, do you have any allergies, any food allergies? And so we started this new thing. We said, yeah, we're allergic to seed oils. And they don't know what to say. And I go, you know, like soybean oil, corn oil, that kind of stuff, seed oils. And they're like, okay. So they come back, and we had ordered a fish dish. And they go, oh, you're going to like this. It doesn't have any seed oils. It just has canola oil. I was like, what?

That is a seed oil. Classic. So I've decided the list of seed oils is way too long. There's grape seed. There's a cottonseed. There's sunflower. There's soybean. There's corn oil. There's all kinds of seed oil. So I'm going to tell them now going forward, these are the kind of oils I can eat. I can eat. I can eat extra virgin olive oil. No, no, no, no. Oh, yeah.

No, I'll tell you why. How dare you want to go there? I'll go there. No, no, no, no, no. It's not as bad, but almost as bad. Okay. So go ahead. Which, which are, which are the two? Let me just expand it. Give, let me give you a little, cause I've been doing this for five years, Jimmy. Okay. I go into the restaurant. I don't really eat at restaurants ever, but sometimes they go out socially with friends and they'll order something. I said, listen, I give them my phone. I show, listen, see this phone. It's not speed dial for nine 11. My friend is death, deathly allergic to seed oils.

Deathly allergic. And if he gets it by even sniffed it, he's going to he's the ambulance is going to come and it's not going to be pretty in your restaurant. You're not going to like that. So so please. And you have to see that you have to engage the server as your friend, because someone's got to go back in the kitchen and see that the cook is actually following those instructions, because frequently they don't. They get the they look at ignore it.

Yeah, so you get it, but the best oils, there's only two, three. Coconut oil, which not many people don't like the flavor, but coconut oil is all saturated for the most part. And butter or ghee. Ghee is clarified butter where the protein's removed. And then beef tallow, which is beef fat. So all those are acceptable. So not even avocado oil?

No, avocado and olive oil are really similar. They're almost identical. They're primarily composed of monounsaturated fats, not a PUFA, like polyunsaturated fats, a MUFA. And they can lead to insulin resistance and obesity.

So you really don't want them. And then that's if you have the purest form, they get the one they make in Italy, you know, they cost $50 for most, almost no restaurant, almost no restaurant has their pure olive oil. 60 minutes of the thing on this 15, 20 years ago, it was a scandal with the mafia. 90% of olive and avocado oil are adulterated with

Seed oils. Yeah. Because they're cheap. So that's when I started to, in 2020, I started to order my olive oil directly from Sicily single sourced. And so it's extra virgin, it's cold pressed.

And you got one of the good ones, right? Yeah. And so when during lockdowns, I would just use butter and I would just use extra virgin olive oil. And I had, I never felt better ever. I lost weight. I got, I felt better. I slept better and everything was better. I didn't have any seed oils. And, uh, so then I finally woke, found out that seed oils are in everything. But, um, so what, let me ask you this. Uh, someone told me that if it's expeller pressed, do you know what that is?

Yeah, it's essentially, it's like a giant press where it just crushes the material and expels the fluid from it. So that's clearly better than processed seed oils. Right. But there's still problems in the purest ones. Even seeds themselves and nuts, which are very high in this. Now,

If you have lowered your linoleic acid content, which is the primary fatty acid in seed oils, it's like 80% of it, and it's the one that causes most of the damage. If you've lowered it, and it takes literally at least six months, it could stay in there for as long as years, three, four, five, six years, because it's embedded in the cell membranes. That takes a long time to get rid of. But if you've done that, then the seeds and nuts become okay. But because everyone is such extremely...

extraordinary high levels of it, then you want to stay away from seeds and nuts for a while. And those are pristine. Those aren't processed in any way, shape, or form. Those are as raw and naturally healthy as you can get. But when you're overloaded with seed oils, you want to avoid them. Now, Jimmy, I have a question for you. I'm really curious. You've been off of seed oils for a long time. I'm proud of you. I really am. I did not know that. Congratulations. But did you notice also that when you went in the sun, that you didn't sunburn as much?

Oh, you know what? No, I guess I have. I've been making sure I got sun. I read this article from, I don't know if it was your website or Midwestern Doctor talking about how important it is to get sun. Yeah, yeah. She writes for us. She writes for us. Okay, so I've been getting a lot of sun every day, at least 20 to 30 minutes of sun a day.

Okay, now it's great. Congratulations. And let me just modify and even improve that routine. So you can get sun as soon as the sun rises or sets or anywhere in between. And the best way to get it, if you're healthy, by healthy I mean you've been off of CETLs for at least six months, is around solar noon.

especially you live in california right la or yes around there that's correct so you're pretty that's a pretty good latitude so you'll get you can go for at least another month maybe six six eight weeks somewhere in there and then you'll still get enough radiation to get some benefits people living in higher latitudes and further north that there's almost they're out of it you know because it they're too far north to get any benefit but

So the key is to get out at solar noon. In fact, we have an app that we're making that's a solar tracker reminder. So 10 minutes before solar noon to remind, hey, now's the time to get outside with minimal clothing because the sun really does need to penetrate your skin. And as much as you do that, if you're not wearing clothes, and it may sound socially inconvenient, and it is unless you're at the beach, like I am pretty much every day, there is clothing that you can take that's transparent or invisible, right?

to the beneficial race. So they go right through. And you're socially acceptable. So is there a better time of day to be in the sun? Yes, it's called solar noon. And why is it solar noon? Because when they sort of bastardize the light cycle, solar noon is not 12 noon in daylight savings science, which we're in right now. So it's an hour later. So solar noon is one o'clock.

Yeah, and that changes around Halloween. Maybe even in two weeks now. I don't maybe next week. I don't know when when the time daily savings time is. So what's the what would be the way to go into November? I think it might go into later now. It used to be Halloween, but I think now it's in November. So what would be the window?

The window is pretty much an hour on either side of solar noon. I like to walk for an hour because you want to multitask, right? So go out in solar noon. Don't just sit there and twiddle your thumbs. You've got a lot of things to do. You can make phone calls, but you can walk. So sun exposure, I think, is one of the most fundamental ingredients of staying healthy. And most people are not out. And even if you live in climates where you're going to get the sun exposure, you're working inside. So you don't have the opportunity to get outside.

But if you're going to go out, it should be around solar noon. And with daylight savings times, it's about 1230 to 130 would be your window. That's your ideal one because you're out in the middle of solar noon, which is one o'clock. Now, when daylight savings times ends, which I think is the second week of November, then you that is 12 o'clock. So it becomes from 11 to one or 1130 to 1230. OK, we were having a fascinating conversation about sun exposure and how important it is

and that all the energy in the world actually comes from the sun. All the energy in your body originates from the sun and that you have to get, what do you recommend, 20 to 30 minutes a day around the solar noon?

Well, the first thing is to not go in direct sun around solar noon unless you've been on vegetable oils first, or seed oils. Many people who have not heard of seed oils, if you say seed oils, you're kind of like a veteran, but most people have not heard that before. So vegetable oils is for the newbies, and it exposes them to this and makes them more broadly acceptable.

So if you unless you've been off of those for at least six months, I would not go and solar go earlier in the day, like before nine, certainly before 10 or after three. Then it's OK because there's but but if you've been off the seed oils, then surely close to solar would be great. And I think if you've been off for a while, I think you need an hour because you want to combine that. It's a multitask. You want to combine it with the solar exposure and also movement.

You know, your body needs to move. It's absolutely essential. And the single best exercise in the world is simply walking. It also happens to be the least expensive. You don't need a lot of equipment for it.

So let's stay on the sun for a second. So what is seed oil? What is the connection between seed oil and sunburn? Can you explain it? Oh, yes. When you, seed oils are toxic. By themselves, they're not. But once they get into your body, they're toxic because they have double bonds. That's why they're unsaturated. When they're saturated, there are no double bonds, like most of the saturated fats, like butter, ghee, and coconut oil. So

So this unsaturated fat is highly susceptible to damage. And the damage can be from many varieties. It can be from sunshine, UV light, which oxidizes that bond and damages it. And it could be heat or pressure or other chemicals. And when...

They are damaged. They make a toxic byproduct, which is the primary reason why they're so toxic. It's a metabolite, and they have a name for it. It's called Oxlam, which is an oxidative linoleic acid metabolite. And that causes damage to your stem cells, your cell membranes. But most importantly, Jimmy, it's one of the primary causes of mitochondrial poisoning, chronic poisoning. The number one cause of death, the number one cause of death in the country, in the world, Jimmy,

is something I call mito shock. And mito is short for mitochondria. And because all these poisons, they kill your mitochondria and you don't have enough cellular energy so you can't initiate the process of repair regeneration. And as many people age, as you know what happened so well in COVID, it's a primary driver of your immune system. If you don't have the power to run your immune system, it doesn't work. It simply doesn't work. So can you explain to people what is mitochondria? Well, mitochondria is a little structure in your cell

Okay. And it's responsible for producing 85% of the energy that your body produces. Very energy dense. In fact, there's some, there's a Nick, Nick Lane is a biochemist in the UK and he wrote a book called sex, suicide, sex, suicide, and something, and energy. I forget the name of it, but Nick Lane. And in that book, he discusses that mitochondria are 10,000 times more energy dense than the sun.

incredible little structures. They are what allow us, they essentially differentiate us from prokaryotes or bacteria, these mitochondria. They give us the energy and the ability to have enormous amounts of energy that is extracted from using oxygen to burn the fuel and create this cellular energy that fuels your entire body and repair and regeneration.

So I think it's called power, sex, suicide. Power, sex, suicide. Yes, that's it. Yeah. I couldn't remember. I got it mixed up. Yeah. Yes. So is that is it the mitochondria? And so inside your cells, there's a thing called mitochondria and that produces the energy. Would that be also called ATPs, the energy? Yes. That's the way the energy is transferred and carried around. That's right. OK. Yeah. And so right now, seed oils are like poison to the mitochondria that produce the energy.

They're the not primary poison. And another of the poisons is the one that you initially invited me on your show for, which is EMF. Okay. We'll get to that. We'll get to that. So are you, so you're telling me that the number one cause of death is the, is the, is the compromising of the mitochondria via seed oils?

Well, CETO is in the other three toxins. Yes. But essentially destruction of the mitochondria, damage and destruction, premature death of the mitochondria due to these mitochondrial poisons. Yes. And Jimmy, what you just said and understand...

is not known or appreciated by 99.9% of physicians. - Yeah, they don't teach this stuff, right, in medical schools? - No, no, no, no, they don't. - They don't even teach-- - And it's by design, that is by design, because of the Flexner Report in 1910. That's intentional. Physicians have turned into slaves.

for the system. And they did not go into it for these. They didn't know what they were getting into. And they almost have no way out. And this whole process that I'm doing, this is the knowledge to share, but we have a whole process, Jimmy, that's going to rescue them, to allow them to use this information to help people understand simple, inexpensive things they can do to restore their health and not have to be held hostage to the medical system. ♪

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The first one that anyone in natural health would say is saturated fat. It's been villainized for half a century, for sure. It was initially precipitated primarily by Ancel Keys, a really phenomenal researcher in the 50s. And unfortunately, he published some studies like the Seven Hearts Studies, or I forget what the name of this study was, but in the 50s, though. And it really catalyzed this whole adoption of the low-fat diet.

uh, approach of eliminating saturated fats. And you know what they replace the saturated fats with, don't you? Sugar? No, seed oil. It's interesting because seed oils do in fact lower the villain, which is cholesterol. No question. He does do, they do, but they lower and they cause damage to the very molecules, the cholesterol molecules that actually causes the plaque to contributes to heart disease and stroke.

So, it's the CITOs that are the culprit. Okay. So, I didn't... Wasn't it the sugar industry that made us... Didn't they take some of his work and then highlight it and make us afraid of saturated fat and that type of thing? Yeah, they absolutely did. That is correct, yes. And he, unfortunately...

I'm not sure if it's outright fraud, but he manipulated the studies. He removed a lot of the, he had the 27, I forget the name of it. It's been a while since I reviewed the work, but seven country studies, I think it was. And it was like usually 22 and he took, he cherry picked the data. Yeah. So if he would have, he chose seven countries, uh,

to show you that saturated fat made you more likely to have heart disease. But if he would have picked seven other countries, it would have had the exact opposite. Exactly. So he was cherry. So, yeah, we've covered that here. Midwestern doctor wrote about that in a blog. But what's the other food? This is a surprise one. So saturated fat is good. What's the other one? And Dr. Humphreys doesn't know this because I didn't share it with her. But it's something literally –

It's sugar. Sugar is actually a health food. And it is literally, you know, you weren't expecting this. I know. No. If you know how to use it wisely, it can restore your energy. And I'll tell you why. Okay. Because sugar, and you have to use it carefully because, but it is the ultimate fuel for your body. What is the fuel for mitochondria? There's only two fuels your body runs at. It could run on proteins, but that's a very inefficient way to generate energy. And it's very inefficient. So the primary fuels are fat and sugar.

And when you go on a high-fat diet, which I previously promoted because I was confused. I didn't understand it. I was caught up in the mania of the low-fat diet, the low-carb diet, that carbs were this pernicious evil. And carbs are nothing more than the innocent firemen at the scene seeking to put out the fire, and they're blamed for the fire. That's the view of...

of even many natural medical doctors that think carbs are dangerous. They're not. You need carbs. Now, sugar is sort of an extreme, but what happens, let me just continue on this journey. There's so much to share. And thank you so much for giving me an opportunity to go in deep into this. Because when you lose this energy, when the primary functions, and Jimmy, virtually no one understands this, there are literally probably two handfuls of physicians, maybe even less, in the planet that get this.

Because Dr. Pete didn't have a lot of followers, he didn't. But what happens is that when you have a lot of mitochondrial poisons, your energy level goes down. And Dr. Pete didn't understand this. One of the most important functions of cellular energy is that there's cells inside your colon that line the colon, they're called colonocytes. And they keep a nice little shield there. And then the goblet cells make the mucin, which lines the borders of the goblet cells.

And when you don't have enough esterial energy, those colonocytes start to die. And what's the result of it? Well, these colonocytes, they love fat. These are the cells that need fat. And there's very specific fat that they like, which is something called a short-chain fatty acid. And that's literally, there's like three molecules, essentially butyrate or butyric acid, propionate and acetate. And these are byproducts of the good bacteria.

beneficial bacteria, or what I like to call in the book, oxygen intolerant. And we'd say they're oxygen intolerant because they get exposed to a little bit of oxygen, they die. Why is this important? Because those colonocytes, they start to die. And one of them, because of this beta oxidation using the fuel from the beneficial bacteria, when they start to die, the oxygen starts to seep back in because they can't repair it and keep it out.

So the good beneficial bacteria start to die too. And they get replaced by disease-causing pathogenic bacteria. Some of these are oxygen-tolerant bacteria. And both of these bacteria produce the fourth and the primary reason why people are dying, that mitochondrial poison, which is something called endotoxin. I don't know if you've heard of it before, but it's a molecule that's embedded in the cell walls of both of these types of bacteria. And the endotoxin,

in the beneficial bacteria is actually benign. It doesn't hurt you. But the endotoxin in the pathogenic disease causing bacteria is virulent and it destroys the mitochondria. So when you lose the mitochondria, you get into this vicious cycle I call the black hole of death. And unless you escape from that cycle, unless you escape from that cycle, Jimmy,

There's no way out. You're going to die prematurely. It's almost impossible to heal. It's like a black hole. Howard Bauchner: What should people do to escape that cycle? Dr. Peter Salgo: There's another factor I want to mention here. Howard Bauchner: Okay. Dr. Peter Salgo: It gets back to the sugar. But by the way, one of my next books is going to be called The Sugar Cure. The Sugar Cure.

And it ties right into this, okay? When you say sugar, you don't mean high fructose corn syrup, right? No, no, no, no, no. I mean real regular sugar. The high fructose corn syrup is bad because fructose by itself is not a good molecule for humans. It's great for prokaryotes, the bacteria in the soil, but you don't want to eat it as humans. So the best sugar

It has two names. You've heard of glucose before, right? So glucose is also called dextrose. And in fact, if you've ever been in the hospital, I'm sure you have, they brought IV and in the IV, it says like D5W or D10W and that D is dextrose or glucose. Okay. And if you have table sugar, table sugar is a disaccharide, means there's two sugar molecules and one is glucose and the other is fructose.

And you can have both, at least table sugar is okay, but it's not as good as dextrose. So here's the point that you need to understand, but it's why sugar can be very beneficial. Because as you get sicker and sicker, the healthy vegetables, the healthy carbs, the complex carbs that were all taught from childhood are so healthy for you. Vegetables, fiber is good for you. You need 40 grams of fiber. Well, I'll tell you, Jimmy, when those bacteria start to shift and you have a preponderance of oxygen-tolerant bacteria

pathogenic bacteria in your gut, which almost everyone does. It is the exceptional rare individual, way less than 100, probably less than 1 in 1,000 people isn't loaded with this stuff. When you have that preponderance, that fiber that would be normally fuel for the good bacteria actually fuels the bad bacteria and they make the virulent, toxic, or more poisonous endotoxin. So it makes you worse. So complex carbohydrates, if you have this preponderance of bad bacteria,

make you worse. So eating the fibers, uh, uh, ostensibly healthy vegetables, uh,

Absolutely counterintuitive. We'll make you worse until you shift that bacteria. How do you find out if you have the good bacteria or the bad bacteria? Well, there are tests now. Now, interesting, most of those good beneficial bacteria, we didn't even know they existed until 20 years ago because they require an environment to live that is called anaerobic or means no oxygen.

So it becomes very difficult for them to grow. So the only way they found these out, they were discovered 20, only 20 years ago. And they did DNA sequencing in a lab to find out what these were. And they, Oh, look at these new bacteria. We didn't even know we're there. Now we know they're there. And they're actually, we have the ability to find them. And we, so, you know, we're learning new stuff all the time. And this is,

There's and there's probably a dozen or maybe even more of these good bacteria. There's only one. It's called acromantia. That's even commercially made because it's so I mean, you need hundreds of millions of dollars to create these plants to make them because they're so rich, rigorous environmental controls that you have to implement before you can grow them and harvest them. So so what can someone do? What so what should you do? What should we be eating?

- Well, the number one rule is two things, and you're doing it. Stay away from seed oils, that's the number one thing. Stay away from seed oil. And then stay away from all processed foods. That's the bane of health, because in almost every processed food will be seed oils, and probably some of the high fructose corn so. - So that includes anything basically that's deep fried, correct?

Yeah, I mean, well, not necessarily because you could theoretically, I still wouldn't do it. You could deep fry in coconut oil and that would be okay because there's a tiny bit of PUFAs in there, but a saturated fat when you heat it, it doesn't turn into these ox limbs. So it's not dangerous. So you could have that. Or you could, another way is you can coat it with coconut oil and put it in the oven and bake it, which is very similar textures to frying. Okay.

So stay away from seed oils, except for coconut oil is good. And then you say coconut oil, butter, ghee, and tallow. Yeah, so there's a place down the street from my house that cooks their fries in tallow. That would be fine. Yeah, so that's okay. And you know what? McDonald's used to do that before this pandemic.

ostensibly philanthropic, I think it was a billionaire. - It was a billionaire, yep. He got him to switch to vegetable oil 'cause he thought it was healthier. - Yeah. He was wrong. And he died of heart disease. - So I also go to another place, they cook their fries in duck fat. Would that be okay? - No, no. - Why not?

Because most ducks are commercially raised and ducks and chickens are another one. The reason why the B-fat is fine is because it's a ruminant animal. And ruminant means it has multiple compartments in their stomach. And these other compartments have bacteria in there, which they do a process called biohydrogenation. They saturate those PUFAs. So they don't store high amounts of PUFAs because the bacteria in these chambers changes it to a saturated fat.

So they have very low levels of PUFA. And so a duck, a bird, ducks and birds are not ruminant animals. That would be cows. That would be buffalo, elk, deer, goats would do it.

But otherwise you want to stay away from it. So chicken is not the health food that it was believed to be. And it can be, but commercially they give them grains, which is another food. In fact, my very first book 20 years ago, Jimmy, actually 21 years ago, it's called The No Grain Diet. And that was New York Times bestseller. Bestseller, yes. Yeah. And so what about, so when I eat eggs, eggs are good, right?

They could be better. Most of them because they're from chickens. And remember I said that chicken, they feed these chicken, these grains that are high in the PUFAs. So they commercially raised chicken, even organic free range. What about 400% more LA than chickens that are raised with low PUFA foods? What about four times as much? What about pasture raised?

Dr. Yeah, it's the same thing. Same thing. Dr. Really? Dr. Because they're in the pasture, but there's no way the chickens can get enough calories from grass. They have to eat bugs, and that would be great if they can, but most places don't have enough bugs. So they feed them other foods, and the foods they feed them are grains. And the grains are typically not the low linoleic acid grain, like a really low one, almost zero is white rice. It's one of the best carbohydrates you can eat is white rice. Dr. Really? Dr. White rice, yes. Dr. Is that why Japanese people seem to be healthy?

think so. I always wondered that. I was potentially curious about that because they totally violated the rule that we had that low carb, you eat a low carb, you're going to die prematurely. They were literally not ignoring, but they were proving that to be not true. But yeah, white rice is one of the best foods and it's one of the least expensive. I mean, if you buy it in bulk,

like at Walmart or something, you can get really healthy white rice for a dollar a pound. And that's not cooked. That's just a dollar a pound. I mean, you're fighting 20-pound bags. But now brown rice has arsenic in it, correct?

No, it's not the arsenic. It has something worse than arsenic, which is the fiber. Because it's the fiber, remember, that serves as fuel for the bad bacteria. The white rice is so good because there's none of that fiber. And this is the other reason why the dextrose or the glucose is so good. Because the fiber foods, your body can't digest them. They travel all the way down the intestine, small intestine, then into the large intestine, the colon. And that's where the bugs eat them. But the sugar, the white sugar dextrose,

dextrose that you can buy in store for $5 a pound. And it's absorbed in your upper small intestine. It never reaches the colon and it gets into your body and it provides the perfect fuel for your mitochondria. The only problem though, is you can't take too much. You almost have to do it like that IV.

So some sick people who can't almost eat any food, these horrible food allergies, and they're dying. I've seen so many people that are terminal. And they've had this because they're at stages of mitochondrial poisoning. And then the only food they can eat that really gets them through this is sugar. I basically have them put like a half a pound to a pound of sugar, dextrose, in a half a gallon of water, and they sip it all day long. You don't want to drink the whole thing at once because then you'll get massive hormone disruptions of insulin.

So this is...

really goes against everything that we've heard right so absolutely which is what you're you love that that's that's your you embrace all that stuff i know you do so so so so you're saying get rid of the seed oils so but so you first so but if i have that good bacteria i don't have the bad say i have the good bacteria then it's okay then it's good to eat fiber yes yeah i actually in the book you'll see if you look at it in chapter 10 i divide

carbohydrates, which is really the crux. And most of this is helping people understand the value of carbohydrates into three categories, green, yellow, and red. And for most people, the complex carbs are red. They should not eat them. They're red for everyone, but you only want to do a red carbohydrate.

when you're healthy. So some of the other ones, there's yellow ones, which would be some of the starches like potatoes, white potatoes and sweet potatoes. Yeah. And then those are next up after rice and things like maple syrup are actually pretty healthy, but you just don't want to take lots of them all at once. So you want to, and then fruit, fruit is probably one of the best whole fruit, whole fruit, but people, Jimmy, there are so many people are so damaged that when they eat fruit, they get sick.

Because there's fiber in the fruit, and that fiber travels down to your intestines, stimulates the production, the growth of these bad bacteria, the pathogenic bacteria. Oxygen tolerant, and then they make endotoxin, and then they get worse. So tell me how I can find out if I'm healthy or unhealthy, if I have the good bacteria, the bad bacteria in my colon, and if I can eat complex carbs or not.

Well, you can do it the simplest and easiest and least expensive way is to just test yourself with foods. So if you're reacting to these carbohydrates, these complex, ostensibly healthy vegetables, good chance that you have a preponderance of pathogen disease causing bacteria in your colon. What kind of reaction?

bloating, gas, distress, fatigue, tiredness, mental fogginess, all of those things. It all results in a decrease in cellular energy. I mean, it all results from. But if you want to be more objective and use scientific tools like lab tests, right now there's some expensive tests. They're called microbiome assays, and they typically run about $500 to $1,000, and you can actually identify the bugs. The problem is they're still...

antiquated model and they're looking at the bad, the pathogenic bacteria, and most of the ones they're identifying are the bad bugs. And the bad bugs are only there, Jim, they're only there because the good bugs die. Nature abhors a vacuum. If the good bugs die, someone else is going to come in. And those are the bad guys. And how do you restore the good bacteria?

- Very, unbelievably perceptive question. Magnificent question, great. That is the best question. So the way you should do it is you limit the mitochondrial poisons because there are, as I mentioned earlier, alluded to, there are probiotics you can take, like Ackermansia would be the only one now. There's a lot of complexities to it. But to take the best bacteria, like a probiotic, when you have lots of oxygen in your stomach or intestine, colon is not going to work.

Because as soon as those guys get there, if they get there, because there's no delivery system yet that allows them to get there well without dying prematurely in the small intestine, they'll die. So the first step is to stop the mitochondrial poisons, which would be seed oils, number one, then diuretics.

Plastic exposure, which is a danger because it stimulates the estrogen receptors. And there's so much confused about hormone replacement therapy, even bioidentical hormone replacement therapy. And estrogen is the pernicious villain here. It's the one that's taking so many people out, especially women. Women are typically dying of breast cancer because of the estrogen exposure. And it's not direct from estrogens. It's from plastics.

that are pervasive in the environment because they produce something called- Plastics? You're saying with the P? Plastics. P with a plastics, yes. Because they produce something called EDC. That's short for endocrine disrupting chemicals. And so that means like- And that stimulates the estrogen receptor. You mean like drinking out of a plastic water bottle, that kind of plastic? Yes. Or having plastic food wrap over your meat? No. Or- Yes. What? Very dangerous. What are you supposed to wrap your food with?

That

That's the challenge, Jimmy. There's been a perversion of this whole science, a suppression of this knowledge. There are many, many reputable scientists who've written books and papers, and there's a legion of them that understand this. But they're discredited, and any time they go out to try to spread this research or start a company, they're just put out of business because they're a competition with these plastic manufacturers. So I'm in the process. One of the things I'm going to do is make biocompatible alternatives to plastics.

And one of them is we're going to make these dextrose. So the most, most table sugar is dextrose and fructose, as I mentioned earlier. So we're going to remove the fructose from there, just make pure dextrose and we'll have fructose left over. And that fructose we can use as a,

an ingredient to make plastic alternatives that actually serve as fertilizer, good, healthy fertilizer when you put them in a landfill. They cause a good bacteria to grow. So it's the best of both worlds. No damaging plastics, no endocrine-disrupting chemicals, and you feed the soil. It's the best.

Uh, this, that seems like a task that no one could meet to get. Oh no. I assure you, I will do it. I'm in the process of doing it now. I mean, I'm not saying you wouldn't be able to invent a plastic alternative, but right now they exist. They exist. The problem is marketing them and letting the public know and be aware of. And I have a very large platform. My platform is going to increase exponentially when this book is launched.

Okay. There's so many other things I've been watching with the book. We could talk for hours on this. I know we could. You'll see. So, but, um, so I just real quick, do you, you heard that they had these studies that tried to prove coconut oil to be bad, right? That, that, Oh yes. That was vilification from the edible oil industry for sure. So, yeah. So,

The EOI, the edible oil industry. Yeah. They've been doing it for years. Yeah. Yeah. So they tried to make people afraid. Yeah, of course. That's a classic strategy. You know that well. You know it better than most people. Well, I'm still going to eat extra virgin olive oil. I hope that doesn't- Yeah, you can do it. Just keep it low. Don't go more than a tablespoon a day. Really. Yeah.

You're probably okay at tables, especially since you have low linoleic acid. But ideally, and I can send you the studies on it if you're interested, but it's problematic. Oh, I never finished the test. There are tests. I told you those expensive tests. I'm in the process now of creating a microbiome assay that costs, get this 50, Jimmy, it's not $500, it's not a thousand, it's $50 that will identify not only which bacteria you have there, but how much you have of them. And I'm hoping to have that available later this year.

So, okay, I look forward to that, actually, very much. So this happened. So we covered today the gray zone, Jeremy Lefredo, who's being beaten and tortured by the Israeli government. I haven't heard anything from the State Department on American journalists being Israel. It's just like you didn't hear anything about Gonzalo Lira in Ukraine. So...

Here's another, Liam Cosgrove. He's from the gray zone. And he wanted to ask this guy, who's the State Department tool, where do you get off lecturing anybody else about human rights or anything when you guys have been committing a genocide for a year? So, but it gets heated. Let's watch. Let's watch. Go ahead.

So Israel is still poised to strike Iran. And in July, Blinken said that Iran was one to two weeks away from developing a nuclear weapon. So I guess for all we know, they might have one by now. And meanwhile, in Ukraine, they've struck deep within Russian territory several times, as deep as 300 miles from the border. And in that case, we don't have to guess. We know that Russia has the largest nuclear arsenal on the planet, as many as 6,000 warheads.

and so one of the risks of arming militaries that are striking in the territories of nuclear powers is that one one of those gets deployed and then it could escalate very quickly from there so it's rarely discussed but it's important to address that the nuclear risk is real and it could very abruptly mean the end of you know what humans have worked for thousands of years to collectively achieve and uh us today are very lucky to live in isn't it interesting you never hear anyone talk about the risk of nuclear war

They never talk about that. The only person I've heard talk about it, the only politician, Donald Trump. The only politician I've heard talk about the risk of nuclear war. The only one. When I was a kid, that's all they talked about. You remember that stuff when we were growing up? Sting wrote a song about it. If the Russians love their children too, Mr. Khrushchev, we will bury you. Remember that song? Mm-hmm.

I don't subscribe to that point of view. They would write songs about it. Everybody was afraid of nuclear war. And they had nuclear armaments agreements. Now those are George Bush took us out of one of them. Trump took us out of another. So anyway, he's talking about the real threat of it. But watch what happens with the fruits of that achievement. And I feel like we're treating the risks kind of brazenly. So my question for you is,

is, you know, we often hear in response to these concerns that, well, Putin, Khomeini, you know, they're war criminals, they're terrorists, as if they're too inherently evil or immoral for us to negotiate with. But meanwhile, this administration has financed a genocide in Gaza for the last year. And every day you're up there denying accountability for it. So, I mean, what gives you the right to lecture other countries on their moral? So if you have a policy question for me, I'm happy to take it. If you want to give a speech, there are plenty of places in Washington where you can give a speech.

Yeah, but people are sick of the bullshit in here. I mean, it is a genocide. You are abetting it. And you are risking nuclear war in Ukraine for this proxy war. Plenty of other places to give a speech. Go ahead. Thank you, Matt. Yeah, we're just sick of your bullshit. Isn't it funny how much bullshit they can take from this guy? The first person I've seen say something like that is Liam Cosgrove from the Grey's Oil. Let's watch it again. It's only a minute and a half long.

So Israel is still poised to strike Iran. And in July, Blinken said that Iran was one to two weeks away from developing a nuclear weapon. So I guess for all we know, they might have one by now. And meanwhile, in Ukraine, they've struck deep within Russian territory several times, as deep as 300 miles from the border. And in that case, we don't have to guess. We know that Russia has the largest nuclear arsenal on the planet, as many as 6,000 warheads.

And so one of the risks of arming militaries that are striking in the territories of nuclear powers is that

one of those gets deployed and then it could escalate very quickly from there. So it's rarely discussed but it's important to address that the nuclear risk is real and it could very abruptly mean the end of, you know, what humans have worked for thousands of years to collectively achieve. And us today are very lucky to live in with the fruits of that achievement and I feel like we're treating the risks kind of brazenly. So my question for you, the

is, you know, we often hear in response to these concerns that, well, Putin, Khomeini, you know, they're war criminals, they're terrorists, as if they're too inherently evil or immoral for us to negotiate with. But meanwhile, this administration has financed a genocide in Gaza for the last year. And every day you're up there denying accountability for it. So, I mean, what gives you the right to lecture other countries on their moral? So if you have a policy question for me, I'm happy to take it. If you want to give a speech, there are plenty of places in Washington where you can give a speech.

Yeah, but people are sick of the bullshit in here. I mean, it is a genocide. You are abetting it. And you are risking nuclear war in Ukraine for this proxy war. Plenty of other places to give a speech. Go ahead. Water off a duck's ass to that guy. It's just water off a duck's ass. Doesn't bother him one bit. Isn't that beautiful? That's what a robot, that's what a military industrial complex robot looks like. He's pro-war no matter what. No matter what. Hey, let's have decorum.

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