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MSNBC Says Rural Voters Are Destroying Democracy!

2024/3/6
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Jimmy Dore 批评 MSNBC 邀请的两位嘉宾 Tom Schaller 和 Paul Waldman 在新书《白人农村愤怒:对美国民主的威胁》中,将白人农村选民描绘成种族主义者、仇外者和暴力分子,认为这种说法过于简单化,忽略了农村地区面临的实际问题,例如经济机会匮乏、教育系统落后和基础设施不足等。他认为,这些问题导致农村选民对现有政治体系感到不满,并更容易被特朗普等民粹主义领导人吸引。Dore 认为,与其妖魔化农村选民,不如关注并解决他们面临的系统性问题。 Tom Schaller 和 Paul Waldman 则认为白人农村选民对民主构成四重威胁:种族主义、阴谋论、反民主情绪和暴力倾向。他们认为,这些选民容易相信阴谋论,反对独立媒体和自由言论,并且倾向于将暴力作为解决问题的途径。他们认为,特朗普利用了农村选民的不满情绪,但并没有真正解决他们的问题。 Kurt Metzger 和 Due Dissonance 的 Russell Dobular 和 Keaton Weiss 也参与了讨论,他们对 MSNBC 的报道以及 Jon Stewart 对以色列和哈马斯冲突的“两面派”立场提出了批评。他们认为,主流媒体对农村选民的刻画过于负面,忽略了他们面临的困境,并对政府打压记者和抗议者的行为表示担忧。 Kurt Metzger 认为,MSNBC 的报道以及 Jon Stewart 对以色列和哈马斯冲突的“两面派”立场是典型的自由派媒体的虚伪表现。他指出,自由派媒体一边声称反种族主义,一边却要求被压迫的巴勒斯坦人民对压迫者表现出外交手腕,这是一种双重标准。Metzger 还批评 Jon Stewart 为了重获声誉,而做出了一些妥协,例如为纳粹分子颁奖、为新冠疫苗做宣传以及对希拉里·克林顿和康多莉扎·赖斯等战争贩子表示赞扬。他认为,Stewart 的行为反映了自由派媒体为了维护自身利益而牺牲原则的现状。 Russell Dobular 和 Keaton Weiss 则指出,Jon Stewart 对以色列和哈马斯冲突的报道具有误导性,他选择性地呈现信息,并忽略了以色列对巴勒斯坦人民的压迫。他们认为,Stewart 的报道旨在为自由派观众提供一种道德上的掩护,让他们既能表达对加沙地带局势的担忧,又能继续支持拜登政府。他们还批评了主流媒体对以色列和巴勒斯坦冲突的报道,认为这些报道过于简单化,忽略了冲突的复杂性和历史背景。

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The discussion revolves around MSNBC's portrayal of white rural voters as a threat to democracy, highlighting the contradictions in the arguments presented by political pundits.

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This happened on MSNBC. They bring on these two guys to tell you why you should hate Trump voters. This is basically it. They have a new scientific book. But then they end up contradicting themselves. I don't know. Did you see these videos yet? Yeah, you got it. Okay. Yeah, I saw them all right. White rural rage. Hang on. Let me make sure I got everything. Yeah. Here we go.

Joining us now, professor of political science at the University of Maryland, Baltimore County, Tom Schaller, and journalist and opinion writer Paul Waldman. Their new book out tomorrow is entitled White Rural Rage, the Threat to American Democracy. And Tom, we'll start. So I just just just so you know, one of those guys, his name is Tom Schaller.

And he's a professor of political science at the University of Maryland. He got his undergraduate degree in communications. And on his web page, he enthuses that his students get, quote, jobs with lobbying firms, political parties and the media.

Oh, so do you think that he kidnapped white rural rage people in like an advanced UFO and probe them to learn their secrets? I bet that's what it sounds like. Watch this. Why are white rural voters a threat to democracy at this point? First of all, I'm going to guess they're a threat to democracy because they vote. Right. Is it is that that's really the problem. Right. They're allowed to vote. Right.

I guess totalitarian dictators have a right not to let people vote. Otherwise, that would threaten democracy. Anyway, let's listen. I think, as we pointed out, looking at Joe Biden's background and Donald Trump's, that the opposite would be true. I mean, we lay out the fourfold interconnected threat that white rural voters put. So the opposite. So why do white rural voters connect with Trump? You think based on Trump and Biden's background, she believes...

The nonsense story is about him coming from a poor coal family who never went to college and who also lost their...

kids in the kibbutz on october 7th his father's kibbutz and his father's sister hid in there oh that's right in the smoldering ruins of their kibbutz 75 years ago on october 7th a few months ago okay here we go joining us now professor of political science at the university of maryland baltimore county tom schaller and journalist and opinion writer paul wall

Their new book out tomorrow is entitled White Rural Rage, the Threat to American Democracy. And Tom, we'll start with you. Why are white rural voters a threat to democracy at this point? You would think, as we pointed out,

looking at joe biden's background and donald trump's that that the opposite would be true i mean we lay out the fourfold interconnected threat that white rural voters pose to the country first of all and we show 30 polls and national studies to demonstrate this so we provide the receipts in chapter six they're the most racist xenophobic anti-immigrant anti-gay geodemographic group in the country second they're the most conspiracist group q and i by the way so this

This book, White World Rage, The Threat to Democracy, it's a bestseller because every word could be in quotes, right? They're racist, xenophobic, authoritarian, violent. So world voters would be voting Democrat then, if you would think, right? Yeah, right. Am I wrong? Oh, yeah. They resort to violence. Yeah, that's why they were really cool with the peaceful but fiery BLM riots. That's right. They were the ones that were like, yeah, that's cool. That's cool. Right.

So they're okay with violence for 100% sure because they were okay with the BLM riots. Yeah, that's who supported it the most. I feel like I'm on 30 Rock right now. Did you watch that when Jenna was in the movie The Rural Juror and they had to keep saying the stupid movie she's in? No, I didn't. The Rural Juror. And she goes, right where it was. It sounds like The Rural Juror.

So here we go. Support and subscribers, election denialism, COVID denialism and scientific skepticism, Obama birtherism. Third, anti-democratic sentiments. They don't believe in an independent press, free speech. They're most likely to say the president should be able to act unilaterally without any checks from Congress.

So, quick question on the four-fold interconnected threat of white rural voters. When you say they don't believe in the independent press, and then you say free speech, do you mean they also don't believe in free speech? Are you just listing free speech as a problem after the independent press unbelief? I think it's for you to... Well, what do you want it to mean? Right? Whatever you want it to mean. So...

Okay, this is real. By the way, this to me would be the funniest SNL sketch if you did one. You would have to change a word. This is what they would have on 30 Rock that Alec Baldwin, the Republican producer, would be watching. Yes, this is like a sketch. Before Tina Fey would come in. And then the rural jurors. I mean...

Yeah, I can't do no better than the reality. Or the courts or the bureaucracy. They're also the most strongly white nationalists and white Christian nationalists. And fourth, they are most likely to excuse or justify violence as an acceptable alternative to peaceful public discourse. So you mentioned a lot of negative factors about this demographic. It's a lot of negative factors there. It's a lot of...

She calls them the demographic. You mentioned a lot of negative factors about this demographic. Are they even human? Yeah, she's got like tweezers holding the phrase as she said this. So, oh. They sound like Hamas. Should we starve them to death? Surely we'd be justified if they voted wrong. So basically these two geniuses rewrote Listen Liberal.

But they put the blame back where it belongs on the people the system failed right listen liberal the flaw was it kept blaming um people with this exact same outfit and

Look at these two guys in this same exact about to get caught jerking off after a business meeting on Zoom. And then what's her name here with like the new Karen hair. Does it matter if you recently moved from the well-heeled northeast to one of the southern states? Because the second you cross the Mason-Dixon line, your brain chemically just automatically changes, you think? Yeah.

I think that it's like, what was that movie with Billy Crystal and Daniel Stern where they were cowboys with Jack Palance? Oh, that one, yeah. City Slickers. City Slickers. I think they had a really bad City Slickers cowboy trip and they didn't bond with Jack Palance at the end. And now they're, oh, it was awful. Everyone was an animal. So now let's listen. So she asked them. Mika actually asks a good question. Mika says, hey, what makes them vulnerable to supporting a guy like Trump? Now-

When Donald Trump first ran for office and he was getting a lot of the support from rural white voters. And so they actually sent a reporter to interview some of these people. And we had a guy on our show named Nick Smith, who's a Waffle House cook from Virginia. And we said, hey, what's a bunch of blue collar people doing?

supporting a billionaire from New York City like Donald Trump. I remember that very well. In hindsight, we shouldn't have had to ask. It's kind of obvious. And he said, well, Jimmy, we know that Donald Trump's a loudmouthed Yankee who should have had his ass kicked a long time ago.

But he's offering us something, whereas Hillary Clinton isn't offering us anything. And she's offering to take our jobs away. She said she's going to come in and close down the coal mines. That was her campaign slogan for those people. Learn to code, I believe. Yeah. So now Mika is actually going to ask a question. She says, well, what makes these people like Donald Trump? What makes them vulnerable to liking a guy like Donald Trump? And here's what they say. Listen to this. They're going to contradict their whole book right here.

this demographic, Tom, what else do they have in common? - Well, I think that what really matters at this point in time-- - What makes them vulnerable?

Oh, well, a lot of that has to do with, as a starting point, the problems that rural America has, which are very real and very profound. They have the more problematic education systems. They have poor infrastructure. They've had a lack of economic opportunity. We've seen a lot of manufacturing jobs leave from rural areas. And that kind of left them open to someone like Donald Trump, who would come along and tell them something that was true, but there is a system that has not served them well.

Wow. Whoa. So wait a minute. The system has not served them well. They don't have economic opportunity and they vote for the guy who correctly identifies the problem. And your solution is to write a book calling them racist and xenophobes and conspiracy theorists and violent. That's what you do. You mean people salted the earth, people who, by the way, make your demographics, make your food.

These are the people that you're gonna demonize now as the worst people in the world because the system has let them down. And that's why they're, so Michael Moore said the same thing in 2016.

He said these people are angry at the establishment because both parties, the establishment has let them down and they're pissed off. And this is after Occupy. This is after they saw the 2008 banking crash that was engineered by the Democrats and Republicans alike. And Wall Street crushed our economy and everybody lost their jobs and everybody lost their houses. But guess what? The bankers didn't miss a bonus. Why? Because none of those people got prosecuted.

But people did get kicked out of their houses and then they did occupy Wall Street. And so after that and the establishment still wouldn't respond to them, still wouldn't do anything for them. And so they were willing to take a brick and smash it through the window of the establishment, which is what a vote for Donald Trump symbolized. This is what Michael Moore said. This is what lefty Michael Moore said in 2016. And these people are upset.

And guess what? The establishment still hasn't tried to do anything for him. This guy just outlined the problem. They're the victims of a system. They don't have good infrastructure. They don't have good schools. They don't have economic opportunity. And the system has screwed them over. Maybe you want to lead with that. Maybe the Democrats should come up with a plan for these people. No. What we're going to do is call them all racists. We're going to call them all xenophobes. We're going to call them violent racists.

We're going to call them anti-democratic instead of actually having a system that actually serves their needs so we can all come together as a country. Instead of that, let's just call them names because that's what the Democrats, that's all they have to offer is that Donald Trump and people who like him are the worst people in the world. You know who the worst people in the world are? These people plus Joe Biden and every person in politics.

Joe Biden, there is no bigger scumbag in the world than Joe Biden. Joe Biden's killed more people than Donald Trump. He certainly locked up more black and brown people than Donald Trump. He certainly got more blood on his hands than Donald Trump does. He certainly screwed over workers way worse than Donald Trump.

There's no bigger scumbag in the world. And that was my big argument with the Cornel West. Cornel West came out and was campaigning for Joe Biden when he came on our show and said that Joe Biden isn't as bad as Donald Trump and that Donald Trump's a real big threat of fascism, which is exactly what the Democrats say. Yeah, Joe Biden sucks, but Donald Trump is worse. And that's exactly what Cornel West messages.

And I pointed that out to him. And so then he calls me a racist and a Trumper because that's the kind of character that Cornel West has. And now he's revealed to the world the more that big worst idea in the world for him to run for president, because now everybody sees every crack in his personality and his ego is much bigger than his IQ.

Wow. He really brings out a rural rage inside of you. He certainly does. Do you think it's very clear that this guy, Tom, here is clearly the woman of the couple because he's like the nicer one? He's like, they have a point. And then the dominant one's like, no, they're animals. They're George's parents. It's like good cop, bad cop, right? Yeah, it's like, George, here we go. Well, I think they have a point sometimes.

the more problematic education systems. They have poor infrastructure. They've had a lack of economic opportunity. We've seen a lot of manufacturing jobs leave from rural areas. And that kind of left them open to someone like Donald Trump who would come along and tell them something that was true, but there is a system that has not served them well. And he said... They're pissed off. They are pissed off, and they have some reason to be. With both...

So why is it that the title of your book? So we got to get them fast. Why is it the title of your book is Trump voters are pissed off and they have a reason to be. Why wouldn't that be the title of your book? Because I don't care how pissed you are, you do not attack the establishment. Because they wouldn't bring you on MSNBC to talk about it? Yeah. That's why? Because it wouldn't be a bestseller then? Because you would be telling an uncomfortable truth to the people you're trying to sell this book to? Because that would be a much more accurate title.

The title would be that Trump voters are pissed off and they have a right to be. Remember, Jimmy, way back when, when I first mentioned, I sent you that interview with Professor Steven Levitsky of Harvard who wrote a book about how we're about to become a third world dictatorship because Trump, his tweets are mean. And at the time, I had no idea how anything worked. So I didn't understand that there's a whole business of

of writing these suck up books to idiots. - This is where the money is. Also the irony is when people say that YouTubers are doing things for click. The place to do things, this is the click thing. This is how you get book deals. You go along with the establishment. You do Russia game. You do Ukraine war. And you get a $35 million contract like Rachel Maddow. You get book deals like this, people. This is the grift. This is where the money is. You write to the people who watch these stupid shows.

These people think of it the way, like, you know, comics are like, I don't have to work dirty. But they consider just, like, saying the blunt truth working blue. That's right. They class it up and lie to have a relationship with power. So there's more. He's got more. So he's got... So that was...

So he so it's so funny. They go to the first guy. They're racist. They're xenophobes. They're conspiracy theorists. They're for violence. They hate the free press. They hate combat. As Joe Biden and the Democrats are killing the most decorated journalist of our lifetime, Julian Assange, they have the balls to do that.

But here we go. There's more to this. Watch this. The trouble is that what Donald Trump gave them was not something that was actually going to fix those problems, but was just a kind of a way to channel. Guess who else didn't give them anything, a way to fix those problems?

Joe Biden and the Democrats. They didn't give them anything to fix those problems. Joe Biden wouldn't even give them a $2,000 check. Joe Biden wouldn't give them a check when they closed down their, kicked them out of their employment during the COVID lockdowns like the rest of the Western world. The rest of the Western world paid people salaries when they locked you out of your job. They didn't do that here in the United States. That's how corrupt our government is.

But they did give themselves $5 trillion to the richest thousand people in the country. The largest upward transfer of wealth in human history happened during COVID. And you think maybe that could be a problem? No, the problem is the voters. The problem is the voters. And the problem is that they talk about how the problem is Donald Trump actually didn't do anything for them. Donald Trump hasn't been fucking president for three going on four years now. You know who has? Joe Biden.

and the Democrats. What have they done for them? No one brings that up. He did one thing for them. He made you real upset. Yes. You just said why they wanted him. That's right, because he hates the people that they hate. Here we go. Okay. What? I bet Mike is going to devour this book. Let's watch. Their rage and anger. And, you know, we've been told for so long, especially Democrats have been told.

that in order to get rural voters to get them to listen to you, you have to go there. You have to really empathize with them. You have to show them that you understand their lives. You have to, you know, put on a Carhartt jacket and go back to somebody's farm. Have a beer. And yeah, maybe milk a cow. Yes. And it turned out that none of that was true. Oh, boy. Yeah, we have to empathize with them. Well, do macchiato eye roll. Maybe milk a cow. Milk a cow. Oh, you mean the farmers who make our food parasites. Yeah.

Here we go. When Donald Trump came along, he didn't do any of that stuff.

He was just a conduit for their rage, their anger, their resentment. And that turned out to be what they wanted. And it wasn't really about the material conditions of their lives because he didn't improve their lives. And neither did Joe Biden. What they wanted, there are no choices of the thing they wanted. Right. They didn't get to vote for someone who would improve their life. You didn't give them that. You just told them they were obligated because it was the lesser of two evils, the one you like. That's right.

He got more support in rural areas in 2020 than he had in 2016, despite the fact that none of their problems had gotten any better under him. All that he gave them was a way to essentially give a big middle finger to Democrats, to people who live in cities, and to the rest of the country. Howard Bauchner: When you say give a middle finger to Democrats and people who live in big cities, you mean that they're anti-Semitic, right? Is that what you say? That's obviously anti-Semitic too.

Is that what that is? Is Dan Trump? Trump is a conduit for their rage, Kurt. You know, he's also funny. He's also funny. You forget that part. You know, you know, the jokes have a cathartic effect. I guess. Wow. You know, they go there the most anti gay, the most anti. That is the most relative. What do you mean? Anti gay relative to what?

All your kids should be trans behind your back on a relative scale. Yeah, I guess they they would be. They're not even anti-gay anymore. That's long dead battles. Yes. Only a bunch of like maniacs are still mad at Chick-fil-A. Chick-fil-A's crime was the guy didn't didn't want gay marriage, which got legalized. And to this day, New York Times having meetings about if you could eat there.

These are the most vindictive projecting people and the most anti-gay. He's saying it clumsily. He means like they have a problem. Was that from Nebraska, that story we had, or Oklahoma? The girl going to the teacher behind the parents' backs, the transition to being a boy. Oh, I can't remember. When Russell was here, we did it. Maybe, yeah. That's what they're labeling as anti-gay. Yes. Something that's...

really anti-gay because all these kids are just gay and they shouldn't be pressured into changing their gender when they're just gay. Pressuring them to change their gender is actually homophobic. Here we go. Watch it. This actually gets even better. More than a conduit to their rage, isn't he also a symbol of their aspirations to an extent? They are, but what are their aspirations? To be rich. I

I guess. Those assholes. I guess. In America. Could you see the land of telling you you're going to be rich probably or maybe if you just work hard enough. They actually thought that that's a thing that could happen for them. So this guy, so she says, what are their aspirations? He goes, well, what are their aspirations? What do they aspire to? He goes, well, what are their aspirations? I don't know. You just wrote a book about them. You're right.

Oh, I don't know. They just want to hate, right? They just want to be deplorables. This is what this is. This is a book calling Trump voters deplorables. That's what this is. They don't aspire to be humans like us. They don't aspire to be actual humans. I consider them a kind of a greater ape that dresses like a person and is cute like BJ and the bear. Yeah. That's how I look at. They're the Hamas of America.

yeah they ought to be fenced in uh-huh and uh count their calories their calories here we go there right poverty is soaring in between 20 so listen to this so so here here we go again again they're gonna under he's gonna undercut the whole point of his book they are but what are their aspirations is

I guess, but they're not getting there, right? Poverty is soaring. Losers. And why aren't they seeing that? I think this is the disconnect, right? They'd rather channel their rage. I think what a lot of rural white Americans have decided is that their economic fortunes are decided by globalization and, frankly, late-stage capitalism, which is eating up all the mom-and-pop stores and taking away the extractive industries and coal and farming and so forth. So they might as well vote on their cultural issues. They might as well vote on God's.

God, gun, and religion because they feel like neither party is going to deliver any material benefit. So these guys know what the actual problem is, but they really just don't want to talk about it. Listen liberal, but against the people. This is listen liberal, but the problem isn't the system that has screwed these people, taken away their livelihood, and given them no options or opportunities. The problem is the people.

Wow. It's almost like all the things they did to black people and everybody else they eventually do to every single person. They eventually do to everybody. And then maybe you should drop all your identity shit because it ain't about that no more. Yeah, it ain't. This is us against them. This is the class war, ladies and gentlemen. And it's on display right here.

This is the class war. Look at those starched collars those guys have. Wow. Look at these two guys at a dentist convention who stopped to fucking write a book. Mike is going to read this one in probably three shits. Well, their problem is globalization and late-stage capitalism. Now let's go to a commercial.

I'm not going to reverse the closure. Here, I want to rewind this again because this is great stuff. Because they feel like neither party is going to deliver any material benefit. They're not going to reverse the closure of rural pharmacies and rural hospitals and rural health care treatment facilities, which are now disappearing, not because of communism and not because of socialism, but because of capitalism, right? Rural pharmacies and hospitals are closing because they're not moneymakers. And unless they're part of a regional chain, they're disappearing. So Trump comes in and

So these guys know exactly what the problem is. And he's telling the audience at MSNBC exactly what the problem is. And it's going...

Right over their heads. How would you even need to have a book about this? You really couldn't figure it out? That the country's being hollowed out by late-stage capitalism? You really don't know this? Have you looked outside your window? Next time you're driving your car down the street, look out the window. Hey, eggs are $20. Look out the window.

You didn't notice that that might be a problem? You don't know that 90% of Americans have medical debt? You didn't know that hospitals and pharmacies in rural areas are closing? You don't know that we have less hospitals? We have like 75,000 less hospital beds in New York State than they did just a couple decades ago? Less. You think they have less people?

They knew, but I can't tell if they're for or against all that. It's unclear based on clearly these people are scumbags or being upset. Everything he's describing, is he saying it like it's bad or like, I mean, that's the way it is. It's like he's saying that's the way it is, but they're dumb to like Trump. He's saying their lives are being crushed. Did you hear what he said? He goes, not by communism, not by socialism, but by capitalism.

So what? So he's still saying they're dumb because they think it's being crushed by communists and socialists. It's being crushed by us. I don't know how long that lie is going to hold them. So we got to really do something before they wise up. Yep.

Is there any more to this? Let me see. It says, let's just hate on cities. Let's just hate on minorities. Let's hate on immigrants. And at least they can deliver on that. And so they're not even going to get a material interest anymore. And that's causing a further decay and decline of rural communities. All right. Reverend Al Guise has a question for you. I couldn't get to Reverend Al. Oh, I want to know his question. Do you want to know his question? Honestly, I stopped watching at that point. Because I was like, dude.

He's like a mummy. He looks like the dad in Chainsaw Massacre, the grandpa that they have to like. There's a couple of more minutes to that segment, but I couldn't. I couldn't. I could. I couldn't. Ironic. So maybe I would. You know what? I would like to dream. I'd like to wish that at the end they go, hey, maybe it is the system. Maybe we should do something. Maybe we should demand something out of Joe Biden and the Democrats when they're in power to do something to help people.

And no, but what they're doing is your problem is half the country. We hate them. We hate half the country, not because they've been screwed over, but because they're hurting and they don't vote the way we like. That's, you know, these are all people that have really enjoyed the Yuval Harari book about the fourth industrial revolution. And so what do we do with the useless class now?

They're not wearing glass, they're useless glass, and they're getting more problematic. And they basically voted for Trump, the Hamas of presidential candidates. Hey, you know, here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a premium member. We give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week, and it's a great way to help support the show. You can do it by going to JimmyDoreComedy.com, clicking on Join Premium.

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And now they're finally now they're getting around to conservative reporters who have been a thorn in the side of the establishment who have been locking up peaceful protesters and charging them with felonies. So Blaze Media investigative journalist has now been taken into FBI custody. His name is Stephen Michael Baker.

They took him in. You want to see? Don't you tell me what's interesting. To me, maybe I'm overly suspicious. Yeah. But they have two African-American FBI guys. It looks good for the camera. Right? Look, they're fighting racism. Yeah, the FBI always makes sure to do a great press opportunity. In fact, they always arrest people so the media can film it and it can look like good PR for the FBI. Yeah.

Take that, you racist. I would hate to say that that's what that is. What do you mean that you'd hate to say that? That's literally what that is. They have a whole team that decides whether to do that. That's what that is. It's not a conspiracy. It's how they work.

So writer for the conservative media outlet surrenders to face Capitol riot charges. And there he is standing right next to a cop not doing nothing. There's a bunch of cops. They're all just standing there. All the cops are just kind of standing there. They were giving them escorts inside the Capitol. Have the police recovered from that trauma yet? So he went and turned himself in.

What did he actually do that was bad? We're going to get to that.

I probably don't have a lot to say right now. I need to process for a little while. I'm actually still shaking a little bit. I don't like what I just went through. I don't like the deliberate humiliation that they put me through. There was no reason to do that. There was no reason to march me into a courtroom in leg chains today. Yeah, for the camera. In leg chains. There was somebody there answering for a felony, and they weren't in chains.

He's, by the way, just so I don't want to jump ahead, he's being charged with misdemeanors and they put him in leg chains when they mark. So this is all intimidation. This is all to scare people about being protesters. This is all to scare the media against covering protesters. This is what all this is. All this is. This is the people who are saying they're defending democracy being authoritarian fascists.

That's what this is. And I have the balls to say it. I have the guts to say it. But very few other people outside of right-wing media will have the guts to say this because there's a price to pay. You're going to lose your shit-lib bona fides. Just like when Jon Stewart told the truth about where the virus came from, he got kicked out of polite society. He had to go hang a medal on a Nazi, do a tongue bath to war criminals, lie about the vaccine. He had to do a lot of things to get back in

But I'll tell the truth about it, right? Just like I'll tell the truth that the same thing they're doing to stop cop city protesters, they're doing to Donald Trump, they're doing to January 6th, and now they're doing to this guy. That's what this is. You want to say something? Well, if you want to be invited to Epstein Island when it reopens, I suggest you get your attitude right. Charges or misdemeanors. It's mind-boggling. But that is...

unfortunately, the type of selective persecution that January 6th defendants are facing. And ultimately, what we are looking at here, and probably the only reason that many of the January 6th defendants have had to go through what they've had to go through, is because of what I've talked about so many times and what I've written about so many times. It's called scary words. It doesn't matter if it's

Stuart Rhodes, it doesn't matter if it's the grandmother who chanted USA, USA in the Capitol. It's the scary words that were said. If you don't say the right thing at the right time and comport to the right narrative, that's what they're going to do is they're going to come after us and that's exactly what's happened. These charges have nothing to do with my behavior at the Capitol. These charges are reflective of what I said before and after my speech.

What I thought about things. What he said. What I joked about. That's what this is reflective of. And so that's what we're up against right now. We're not quite Canada yet. You know, we don't have Pierre Trudeau wanting to put people in prison for life for hate speech. But this is the beginnings if we don't stand up against it. You'll be fleeing to China for freedom before too long. That'll be hilarious.

So Stephen Baker has written articles about the January 6th, 2021 ride for blaze news. He faces four misdemeanor counts, including trespassing and disorderly conduct charges for misdemeanor accounts. They put them in leg shackles. Judge Judy doesn't even have time for a case this small. Yeah. Even when she's presiding over a fake murder, she doesn't go through all that. We've got to get this dangerous criminal off the streets, Kurt. He's a serial reporter and he'll do it again. Well, uh,

I watch a lot of like X Mafia or whatever on YouTube. Everybody who's ever been arrested by the FBI will let you know what they do. It's a big funding thing to show that they should get more funding for their programs. They do a big play for the cameras. Every time they do that, what they decide is a high-profile case. They cast the perfect agents. That's right. Yeah.

And then what?

He then provided the Associated Press with a copy of that affidavit, which wasn't immediately unsealed. In another part of the Capitol, the affidavit says that this reporter, what did he do? He antagonized police officers who tried to keep him on the other side. How? He said, are you going to use that gun on us? That monster. It's like a pipe bomb of words. So this is...

So a cop who has a gun pulled on them, he asked them, are you going to use that on us? That's now written up as an affidavit as antagonizing the police. That's like saying from the river to the sea out loud. That's how dangerous that is. That's what that is, Kurt. Are you going to use that gun? That's in the affidavit. Look, he didn't get shot.

So what he did was what reporters are supposed to do, be eyewitnesses to an event rather than just being a sonographer to anecdotes. He entered through a broken door because all the other people use that broken door to enter. Right. Reporting on a group now... So anyway... Was he wearing a mask? Maybe that was the problem. So reporting on a group now means that you joined the group. So I guess Walter Cronkite actually went to the moon. Yeah. So...

He remained inside the building for approximately 37 minutes before police let him out of the Capitol. That's according to the FBI. Thank God they got him. Baker started writing for the Blaze media outlet after January 6th. He was working as a freelance journalist on January 6th, and he later sold the videos that he made to the New York Times and HBO.

So his reporting from the event got bought by other super mainstream news organizations. Alexander Pelosi used it as some supplemental video. And used it.

Wait, you remember that kid, I remember his name was Sullivan, but he said, I didn't see anything like that January 6th. I remember, and then the next thing you know, he had a big sexual thing against him. Oh, really? Yeah, then he was dumped by that second shit, Tim Heidecker's company, immediately. And it was by coincidence, right after he was saying how he didn't see all the violence. Oh, no kidding. Yeah.

So the lawyer said that the defense will argue that this is a case of selective prosecution and that Baker has been charged because he's a conservative writer.

Those can get reversed when the politics of the moment change. I bet they will, too. And I bet they know and they're really scared and afraid of it based on morning. This is on four misdemeanors. So you just think about what Julian Assange is going to face once he gets here. This this is just a tiny appetizer of the dystopian response waiting for Julian Assange when he gets here.

Like Trump coming in? They're going to put Julian Assange on the stand strapped into an electric chair. Trump coming in. I mean, I have a fantasy that he'll do the thing that they're afraid of. I know that he won't, but I have a fantasy he'll clear the whole FBI out, all of them out. It's a beautiful dream that will never happen, but that's the dream.

So James Lee Bright, another attorney for Baker, said it was very troubling to see Baker and Chains being dragged into the federal court on misdemeanors. Ladies and gentlemen, we got him. I have violent felony offenders that are treated better than this on a daily basis. It is absolutely our intention to fight these charges until the absolute very end. The FBI's agent affidavit cites several statements that Baker made during an... This is...

The affidavits, it's exactly what he said at his press conference there, that it was the words he said. After leaving the Capitol, he told a local television station that he was quite excited to see this going on. Uh-oh. That's a thought crime.

Do I approve of what happened today? I approve 100%, he said. That's according to the FBI. This is inside the affidavit. Now, I did approve, but then again, I was cool with that gay intern fucking a guy in the ass right in the middle of the Congress there. Remember? Yes, but what was he saying? Remember these guys couldn't be in there, but it was okay. You think that's the first time that's happened? You think there's not regular ass fucking if it happened one time?

So maybe he said he was approving of a completely staged event with police waving and posing with the protesters and taking selfies with them. What's not to approve of? Maybe that's what he was saying he approved of. Maybe because he saw there wasn't the thing that you said there was there and it was nonviolent and he approved of the nonviolence. I mean, we can't get cops to be that friendly anywhere else than they were. They did everything except erect a bouncy house inside the Capitol.

for the fucking protesters. Look, I'm going to be honest, Jimmy. I would have approved of them taking a full shit in Pelosi's desk. I don't know if that's a crime, but I would have personally approved of it. They had to take it right into the Capitol to get a hug from those cops. And they did it. What's the matter? Anything? Am I under arrest?

for that crack about the Pelosi desk. Baker also told the station that approximately 20 to 30 people were inside then house speaker, Nancy Pelosi's office at the time that I got there. That's more people that live in her head and a video upload on Jew on YouTube. Uh,

channel on January 6th, Baker also referred to Pelosi with a sexist expletive. Was it jugs? Because that's what I call her sometimes. I think he used the B word, but he also referred to Mitch McConnell with the same word. So he's calling the government bitches. But the AP reports it as he used it against Nancy Pelosi. By the way, since when can you not say whatever the hell you want about Nancy Pelosi or anyone really in a free speech society?

i i'm with you legally speaking i understand of course you should be canceled from oh sure certainly of course you shouldn't be able to use paypal but legally just because i say nancy's a big judge jugged withered beef jerky piece of shit thief that shouldn't be a crime that shouldn't be a crime uh blaze did you just speaking uh uh

For an example, blaze news, Steve Baker released from courthouse after arrest. Uh, and here's some, uh, the Baker who for four, four years has been searching for the truth about January six and believes the U S government has been targeting him for it. On Friday, he was charged with four misdemeanors. He,

Here they are. Knowingly entering or remaining in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority. A cop was holding his hand in that picture. Wait. There was a lawful authority holding his goddamn hand in the picture. That's unbelievable.

uh disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds disorderly conduct in a capitol building and parading demonstrating or picketing in a capitol building you you can literally fuck in the ass in the building but you can't picket or demonstrate what if i'm demonstrating how to fuck some guy in the ass

You're not supposed to be in a restricted building. That's what all good reporters do. They never would go into a restricted area. That's why Superman never had to save Lois Lane, because she'd always remain respectfully outside the bad guy's place and not get the scoop. When something goes down, you have to stand there and wait for permission. Uh-oh, Lois Lane's been charged with misdemeanors. I better change into Superman.

Boy, taking a notepad. Very dangerous. Asking if a cop's going to shoot you. Asking a cop if they're going to shoot you. Boy, those poor cops. Blaze TV contributor Jill Savage.

Such a great name, Savage. Noted Friday that she exited the courtroom with Baker, who was able to wear his dress clothes but had shackles on his wrists and ankles. He's expected to be released today. Okay, yeah. Wow. Baker learned of the charges for the first time Friday, and earlier this week told Blaze News that the powers that be wouldn't tell his attorney about the charges because they believed Baker would post them on social media. Oh, okay.

It was really important to get the shot of him in the chain so that Rachel Maddow could flick her bean to it. And his attorney said, this is really an unusual move. Yeah, I bet. This whole thing's unusual. I've been seeing a lot of unusual moves in the last, I don't know, three or four years. Things got real unusual. This is like the final nail. Anyway, Bright told Blaze News that he's disturbed about what's happening with his client, especially given that Baker has been in full compliance all this time.

Reuters also said the federal government's three-plus years later going after people who were legitimate, functioning journalists that day appears designed to have an absolute chilling effect. Yes. You know, I got to believe there's some good people that work at the FBI. I hope you got the balls to snitch on your scumbag, corrupt organization. They don't. Like the common decency you'd expect from a mafioso. Snitch on the scumbags that you work with if you're a good person.

There's got to be some in there that are disturbed by this. Snitch on them. It's only going to be fixed by snitching. Baker added that when he asked his other attorney, William Shipley, why the federal government is treating him like this, Shipley replied, you know why. You've been poking him in the eye for three years.

So, Baker's arrest and charges have been getting a ton of attention, and notable individuals have been weighing in. Vivek Ramaswamy. Vivek, Ramaswamy? Vivek Ramaswamy, Blaze Media investigative journalist, Steve Baker, TVP.

being taken into FBI custody for January 6th reporting. Ex-Fox News reporter Catherine Herridge being held in contempt yesterday for refusing to reveal her sources about a Chinese-American scientist investigated by the FBI but never charged. Was she in chains? Those who pontificate about threats to our democracy should take a hard look at the threats to freedom of the press. They don't mean your democracy. They meant theirs. That's right.

Donald Trump Jr., I guess now they're arresting journalists who preserve democracy or something. Even he made a good point. When you're so corrupt, you can make Donald Trump Jr. be a sage. He's better than all of you. All the Democrats, that scumbag, Donald Trump Jr., so much better than you on every level. Thomas Massey said the fourth branch is arresting another journalist today for embarrassing the regime.

That's what's going on here. And the same people are okay with Julian Assange being tortured and murdered for exposing the war crimes of the establishment. They're going to be okay with this too because it's their political enemies and they never ever think it's going to come back on them.

They never think it's going to come back on them. I think they're sensing it, Jimmy. I get a feeling they're starting to sense it. I don't think so, Kurt. They freak out about Trump at every corner that Colorado overturned that thing. A bunch of them. That's why they freak out on TV all the time because they know the things they've been doing

Are only going to be like in their head. They're the winners on the right side of history. But if they don't win, then they're not the right side of history. They're the real wrong side of history. And that's a fate. That's like going to hell. That's right. For a secular dipshit MSNBC person, their heaven was the right side of history. Now they're going to go to hell, the wrong side of history. So this whole idea that.

Trump is such a threat to democracy because he doesn't follow any of the norms. So to fight him, they throw all the norms and democracy out the window and they go after journalists, they criminalize peaceful protesters,

They try to undermine the election by kicking him off ballots, not giving people the right to vote in a democracy. Everything you can say, the P dossier, all completely made up, Russiagate, completely concocted by the FBI who lied to the FISA court.

17 times to try to get him on Russiagate. They impeached him over pausing shipment of arms to Ukraine. The only reason to vote for him is now an impeachable offense. They've thrown out every norm to try to go after their political enemy.

And there's almost nobody on the left with the stones to stand up and say, write it, write a column about it, write an article about it. Cornel West came on the show and pretended he was dumber than a C student and he couldn't see what was happening. And he'll never say anything like this. Hey, and fuck Jon Stewart for even bringing up Alexi Navalny. Like anyone gives a shit about that. All right, John, there's journalists right here getting arrested. You moron. It's,

If you want to see the end of democracy, it's been happening in front of your face ever since Trump got elected. But it isn't being done by Trump. It's being done by his political opponents under the guise of saving democracy. So Jon Stewart said it again. Now, Jon Stewart last year.

He went on Stephen Colbert and he told people where the virus came from. It came from the Wuhan lab. Stephen Colbert flipped out, tried to stop him. Jon Stewart wouldn't stop saying it. And so then he was kicked out of polite society for about a year. And no, no kidding. It really shook him. In fact, he did an episode about how it shook him, about how people were angry at him for that, for telling the truth.

About because now people without religion have replaced science as their religion. So science can't be questioned. Science is now a religion. And that's to the people who like to vote Democrat. That's that's a fact. And Carl Jung predicted this, by the way. I'm reading that book, The Undiscovered Self. And he predicted all this and he explains how this works. And so Jon Stewart got kicked out of that polite society by people who treat science and government as a religion.

And he'd been trying to get himself back in. So to get himself back in, he hung a medal on a literal Nazi. Jon Stewart, he gave an award to a Nazi, literally. That's for the Ukraine war. And he'll never tell his audience the truth about the Ukraine war. He also then did promotion PR for the COVID-19 vaccine, where he brought on three vaccine liars. And they lied to you about almost everything.

And John went along with it as if he was actually curious. And then he did a tongue bath to two of the biggest blood soaked war mongers in the history, Condoleezza Rice and Hillary Clinton.

So those are the three things he had to do to get back in. And then he did another one where he then went after Tucker Carlson. Now, Tucker Carlson has been doing the best journalism of any mainstream news journalist around for at least at least the last three, four or five years, ever since the Syrian war.

And Jon Stewart, of course, has been doing nothing except simping for the establishment. And so Jon Stewart then had to come out and say this after Tucker Carlson went to Russia and said, hey, it's really nice here. It's nicer than the United States. Why is that? And like a true adult child of an alcoholic, Americans didn't get mad at the people who are making our subway system and our cities failed.

and filthy and crime-ridden, they got mad at the guy who pointed that out. Tucker Carlson and Jon Stewart enabled them like a good adult child of an alcoholic. Because the difference between our urinal-caked, chaotic subways and your candelabra-beautiful subways is the literal price of freedom.

Oh, my God. So the reason why there's rats and urinal caked subways and filth and crime and graffiti, it's because we have freedom. I've been to other countries that have freedom. They don't look like this. No. And he's pretending that Russia is the Russia from 40 years ago.

Meaning it's the communist, it's not a communist state anymore. It's the same crony capitalist bullshit that we have here, except they don't, it's not as bad apparently. So then here he had to do a both sides thing on Hamas and Israel, pretending like they're both equally bad. So that's his new thing now. His new thing now is to try to pretend both sides are just as bad as each other. And let's watch this.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu finally laid out his plan for peace. Benjamin Netanyahu is calling for complete demilitarization of Gaza as well as Israel taking over security and controlling entry and exit points to Gaza. So your peace plan is a siege.

A military C. You really think a military solution ends this cycle? So there's Jon Stewart really giving it to Netanyahu the way he deserves. He just playfully roasts him like this was a birthday get together and he's the official comedian and his friends at the office said, hey, give our guy some shit. It's his birthday. That's what that was like. He'll love it. Ha ha, BB. You know, I'm just kidding. So then he goes on and here's the real bad part.

Look, the Israeli position doesn't seem so tenable. Perhaps I can find some diplomatic leeway in the Hamas position. Israel is a country that has no place on our land. We must remove that country. Does that mean the annihilation of Israel? Yes, of course. I cannot find diplomatic leeway in the Hamas position. LAUGHTER

So here we see Jon Stewart for the elite trying simultaneously to regain street cred while also not angering his masters and winding up in the leather gimp suit in the punishment dungeon for another week. It's a tricky balancing act of having to look like you actually have compassion for the guys in population while at the same time completely ignoring the real cause of everything involved.

That's what Jon Stewart just did. Let me bring in... So this is his new game now, and his game is to... It's very MSNBC-like, and he's not telling you the true story of what's happening. He's pretending like both sides are wrong, and...

And he's doing it in a way using the kind of humor that you would use at someone's birthday party. But let me throw it over to the boys from Do Dissonance. I mean, he and the rest of these libs in the media, they're such anti-racist, right? They're so anti-racist, yet it is incumbent upon an imprisoned group of brown people living in an open air concentration camp to be diplomatic.

towards the people who are torturing them, brutalizing them, surveilling them, bombing them, and now starving them. Oh, not too much diplomacy coming from that side. Would you say, hmm, Matt Turner wasn't as diplomatic as he should have been towards his masters? That's what he's saying, but they would never say it in that context. In this context, sure. He goes on in that segment, too, because I watched the whole segment. It was a horrible segment. He goes on to pin some blame on

on the UN as well. Well, the UN's not helping because there's all this dysfunction at the UN. Dysfunction caused by the United States. The UN is fully unified in favor of a ceasefire, except for us. We're the ones sabotaging the UN. So yeah, this was both sides in it all over the place.

He just wanted to give his audience the moral cover to throw their hands up and say, well, it's complicated. It's a terrible situation, but there's blame to go around. And we can still feel exactly the way we feel now without feeling too bad about ourselves for it. That was the entire purpose of this monologue. It was really quite awful. Yeah, that is a framing that we've heard forever.

And it's something that Israel apologists always hide behind. And he actually says that straight out in the course of that monologue. Well, yes, it's a complicated history. It's really not complicated. Not complicated. Really not complicated. Mostly European Jews who were not from that region.

took out what had been done to them by Nazi Germany on a population that had nothing to do with it, displaced them from their homes, drove them out, and established an apartheid state. It's not complicated at all. It's the simplest fucking thing in the world. And throughout that, and as Keaton points out, the UN segment was so deceptively edited, the more you watch Jon Stewart now...

The more you realize how much of classic Daily Show was probably bullshit, but you just didn't realize it because you weren't looking for it. Because now that you know so much of what he's saying is bullshit, you look at the tactics he uses.

If you know the subject, you know he picked somebody, for example, who can't make an argument, who's not media ready, who's not going to be comfortable to make them look like an idiot in order to discredit the thing he's trying to discredit. And then you look back on The Daily Show, how often they had these mumbling, stuttering people. And now knowing the subjects, you say, well, why didn't he interview this person, this person, this person, this person? Exactly.

And, of course, he's ignoring the fact that Hamas's new charter does recognize the borders of 1967, which would give the Palestinians the Gaza and the West Bank and Israel the rest, and he doesn't care. So I'm sure—go ahead. The thing that you showed there, I haven't seen that whole monologue. But I've been to five countries in the last 12 months, and the only country that's somewhat like the United States that I've been to was India.

An impoverished third world country. To say that this is the price of freedom, Greece is not a shithole. Italy is not a shithole. England is not a shithole. They have their problems, but only the United States is the kind of shithole that –

where you see just crumbling roads and infrastructure. I have not seen that anywhere else in the Western world. I'm here right now in New Orleans. I am telling you, you could go two miles from where I'm staying. I'm near two lanes, so it's relatively upscale over here. You go two miles from here, there are roads where the asphalt is gone, where you can see like little chunks of asphalt and it's dirt roads.

There is no other Western country that I've been to that is in that condition. And I'm sure... Those are the holes of freedom. That's right. The price of freedom. Yeah. I'm sure someone expects us to have both sympathy and empathy for how torn poor Jon Stewart is in the middle of all this, trying to do the right thing while knowing what will happen to him if he actually does, and choosing the wrong thing and then trying to make up for it in this back-and-forth...

Over and freaking over again. What a gripping hero's journey this is for John. I'm sure Netflix will do a biopic on John and his struggles to keep Zionism alive, along with his own reputation as a human being alive as well. I think it's going to be called Lucky Yet Fucked, The Jon Stewart Show.

So other people have made lots of points. Let me show this. John Perry says, John keeps up the preferred teaching of the Middle East in general. They all hate each other and have for a thousand years. We've tried everything. Imposed borders, bombing, chaos, instigation, bombing, arms sales, bombing, imposed leaders and well bombing. But nothing works.

Here's three in a row. This is so sad. John could have educated people on what is going on. Instead, he just made a poor joke, but not surprised. Zionists keep playing this clip over and over as if this guy makes the policy for Hamas. That's your point, Russ. He points out to this guy. Anyway, he also said free the hostages, but didn't say a thing about the Palestinians held in Israeli jails.

One more. Hamas literally accepted a Palestinian state within the 67 borders. Israel walked away from that. These last four months, Israel has made an excellent case for the Hamas position on this, by the way.

They're starving children, blowing up children, women and children and grandparents. They're literally starving them. And they're admitting they're doing this. They're cutting off their water. They're cutting off their food. They're doing this to do what's called mass punishment, group punishment, which is a war crime. And they're doing it right out in the open. That's what they're doing. They're bombing them, killing them.

It's a genocide. There's no other word for this. I guess some people like to say ethnic cleansing because it sounds nicer. It's like the difference between torture and enhanced interrogation techniques. But it's the same thing. You're bombing civilians on purpose, and the ones you're not bombing, you're starving on purpose. Starving. Like, for real, they're dying from starvation. Children. And Jon Stewart's like, ah, they're both, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah.

Well, you know, that's the New York Times readership, too. I think we're going to do a segment on that later in the stream, if I'm not wrong. But, you know, he has to give his audience this kind of moral support.

Cover that the libs always seek. Right. We have to feel bad about what's going on in Gaza. Otherwise, we're not good liberals. But we can't feel too bad about it to the point where we can't stomach a vote for Biden because then we're not good liberals. Right. So they have to constantly keep those two things in their head at the same time. They have to juggle those things. Right. Exactly right. They have to bear witness to it.

but not to the point where they actually abandon the basic premise that Biden is the only thing standing between us and the hell that will be a second Trump term. And if you get too bitter about this, then you end up like those Michigan voters who vote uncommitted and say they're not going to vote Biden in November. And that's a very, very uncomfortable place for an upper middle class New Yorker to find themselves.

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