Here’s Why Gymnasts' Bodies Have Changed So Much! w/ Jennifer Sey
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Enjoy it while you can. Oh, wow. But we have, you and I. Yeah. Enjoy this remaining time we have together. I am. These precious moments that dance away in the wind and out of reach forever.

I just wrote that. Okay, well, I will, sir. What are you up to now? Just laying on the beach? Proving the haters wrong. You know me, I always love to serve on some chumps. Yeah. Number one chump, Donald Trump, was blathering about how I was essentially in a vegetative state. And then what was the next video image of me that the public saw right after that? A what?

Me riding a bicycle. Really? That's right. And people said, wow, look at him go. Old and feeble, my ass. Oh, I see. Nicely played, I guess.

We wanted it to be like when you see a wide shot of Kermit the Frog riding a bike in the Muppet movie. Yeah, yeah. Like, how the fuck did they do that? No, no, seriously, how the fuck did they do that? No, I mean it. How the fuck did they do that? We wanted it to be like that. Well, you succeeded, I guess, sir.

Thanks, man. Yeah, you're welcome. People couldn't believe I was riding a damn bike. I know. And I will keep proving that I am focused, agile, and at least sentient to prove the haters wrong. Which haters do you mean?

My own fucking party. Pelosi. Schumer. They forced me out, Jimmy. It was a bloodless coup. A palace revolution. A revolt of the jagoffs.

I see. Multiple news outlets are reporting rumors that you are bitter and being forced to leave the race and resentful of those you felt were instrumental in it.

Yeah, you bet. Obama didn't even come in person. He just called people on the phone doing that, oh, shit. That's my impression of him. Oh, look, worthless. It makes you look like he's sinking, but it really means he doesn't know what to say. And Pelosi and Schumer can suck it.

Yeah, I'm resentful. Are you even going to be at the convention? Yeah, I'm giving a speech the first night, and then I'm outie 5,000, baby. Really? In person? You're going to be there in person?

I won't. Not after that. Fuck no. Enjoy your glow fest, mama. Yeah, Jimmy, I don't really want to hang around a few days in Chicago and celebrate the Democratic Party. Do you understand that? So you won't be there for the Harris nomination? No. No.

Maybe I'll join the protests outside. How funny would that fucking be? Sitting president outside. Fuck you, Kamala. Wearing that Palestinian scarf thing. People would be going crazy, man. Yeah, they would. Hold on, Mr. President. I'm getting another call. Hello, this is Jimmy Dorshow. Who's this?

Hello, Jimmy, this is Senator Chuck Schumer of New York. Chuckie the Shube, how are you? I'm doing superb. I have a book coming out. I'll plug that later. But I really want to talk to my friend Joe Biden. I've been having problems getting him on the phone. Yeah, it's because I don't want to talk to you. Go fuck yourself. Joe, please don't be like this. How long have we known each other? Too fucking long.

Joe, you agreed with me and Nancy that this was for the best. You agreed. So we need to think about the best things for the country, and we need to be unified at the convention. We need to present a unified front. How about I unify your face with my nine eyes? Joe, seriously, we need your presence, your full presence at that convention for Kamala, for the party, for this country.

Nah, I'm sure you jag-offs have it all covered. Okay. You know what? I don't even know what to do here. I just don't. Tell us about your upcoming book, Senator. Yes, good idea. It's coming out next year. It's called Antisemitism in America, a Warning. It tracks the recent rise of the most ancient evil in the world and explores the causes of this phenomenon. I see. Okay.

Excuse me? Okay, that's offensive. No.

I'm saying anti-Semitism is bad, but I'm blaming it on you because it sucks so hard. Yeah, it's offensive at you. All right. Yeah, I don't have the bandwidth for this today. Goodbye. Mr. President, you probably shouldn't have said that.

Oh, without a doubt, I shouldn't have. Yeah, no way. But I don't care. I don't give a shit. I'm not going to pretend to be these people's friends anymore. I don't care about anything. I'm not going to do what I'm supposed to do. And you know what? I'm not even going to end this call in a funny way. So there. Goodbye. Wow, he really has turned over a new leaf.

A return guest to the show, ladies and gentlemen, Jennifer Say. She's an American author, filmmaker, business executive, retired artistic gymnast.

She was the, did you see her break dancing at the, anyway, she was the 1986 USA Gymnastics National, no kidding. I probably already knew this and I forgot. She was the 1986 USA Gymnastics National Champion and a seven-time member of the U.S. Women's National Team. She produced the 2020 Emmy Award-winning documentary film Athletic A or Athlete A,

which connected the crimes of Larry Nassar to systemic abuses in the Olympic movement. Oh, that's son of a... In her memoir, Levi's Unbuttoned, she wrote... That's a provocative title. She wrote about being asked to leave her position as the company's chief marketing and brand president because of her vocal opposition to the extended closure of San Francisco's public schools during the COVID pandemic. And guess who turned out to be right?

She turned out to be right about that. Now they all admit it. Everybody pretends like they were never for locking down schools. Yeah. More recently, she launched the XX-XY Athletics, described as the only athletic brand standing up for women's sports. Please welcome back to the show, Jennifer Say. Hey, Jennifer, how are you?

I'm good. Thanks for having me, Jimmy. Wow. I guess I knew you were an athlete, but I used to smoke pot back then when we talked, so it probably went in one ear and out the other.

Wow. That's a recent quitting then. Yeah. Yeah. I think we did talk about it and you were interested in the subject because I was the first person to speak out about abuse in the sport. I wrote a book about it in 2008 and you were very interested and we talked about coming back to talk about it. So now is the perfect time. Okay. Fantastic. So, boy, how does something like Larry Nassar happen? Yeah.

Well, it happens because the governing bodies care more about their reputation, their reputations and generating, you know, sponsorship dollars. And then they care about the athletes. They don't care about the athletes. I think that's very much linked to probably what we'll talk about. I think we're going to talk probably about the boxing, women's women, so-called women's boxing in the Olympics. But these governing bodies, they do not care about the athletes. The athletes are widgets.

You know, they don't think about the fact that the athletes are what make the sport and they need to protect the athletes. Without the athletes, there's no Olympics. There is no sports. I mean, we could do without the break dancing that you mentioned earlier, but I think she's not really an athlete. But they failed to care for these people, these young girls in the case of gymnastics. And it took an army of survivors to stand up together. And I do think it's better than it was when I was training.

So did you experience anything nefarious when you were training?

Well, I write extensively in my book about the emotional and physical abuse, which is pretty intense and I think sets the stage and creates the conditions for sexual abuse to occur. I was not sexually abused in the sport. I was around serial pedophiles all the time. The national team coach in the 1980s, who I traveled around not just the country, but the world with, he was the 1984 Olympics coach. He's now been banned from the sport for raping several athletes.

And we all knew to stay away from him. And we all knew that if we said anything...

you know, nothing would happen with that, that he was this well-respected coach. We were supposed to kind of protect ourselves, stay away from him as best as you could. But he was a highly regarded coach. You know, Mary Lou Retton won the Olympics in 1984. His name is Don Peters. He's now since been banned from the sport, like I said, for raping quite a few young athletes, young gymnasts. But

You know, I was not subjected to it. I managed to avoid that fate. I was subjected to pretty intense emotional and physical abuse. I trained on a broken ankle for two years. I ate 300 calories a day for four years. We were weighed in twice a day. Our weight was announced on the loudspeaker. We were shamed and bullied. Food was taken right from our hands. And so I think it's all part of the same thing.

horrible, ugly stew. Wow. How do you, well, there are two questions. You need, you know, you need protein to build muscle. And if you're not, if you're on such a low calorie diet, how does, that's got to affect you physically and in a negative way, right?

I think so. I mean, I broke a lot of bones. It's a very dangerous sport. So that happens regardless. But, you know, I'd break one and then I'd break the other. Part of that was I never let my injuries heal. You know, I came back from broken femur and broke the other ankle just a few months later because I never let the femur heal. So I was, you know, favoring the other the other leg. The body type, the aesthetic in the 80s and 90s was very thin and

And let's remember, it's a subjective sport. So you are judged. And the aesthetic, the look was prepubescent, very tiny. That's not the case anymore. Now the sport has gotten the skills themselves in gymnastics are so much harder.

requires so much more strength. I don't know if it would be possible today. And the body type has changed. The aesthetic has changed to support those more difficult skills. But you would be surprised when you're running on adrenaline and fear, you can subsist on a pretty low calorie diet. And when I say running on fear, I mean of the coaches, not the skills. So, you know, I watched briefly some of the female gymnastics at the Olympics. And I

I was shocked because what you're saying is their body types have changed. They have hips. Yeah. Now, I remember when I grew up watching female gymnastics in the Olympics, they didn't have any hips and they were very skinny. But now,

And the women are like 28 years old. Like I saw one woman was like 28. I'm like, that never used to happen, right? No, it didn't. Well, it's interesting. Before 1972, it did happen. And then it all changed with Olga and Nadia. Nadia Comaneci won the 1976 Olympics. She was 14 years old. That changed everything. You had to look like that. And there was this, you know, your coaches were literally fighting against the clock and you were...

supposed to remain skinny enough that you would not get your period, basically. That was the idea is to remain prepubescent. And the belief was smaller, tinier, and you would be able to perform harder tricks, etc. Now, the entire other than one athlete competing for Team USA, they were all in their 20s.

And, you know, I think it's good for a lot of reasons. One, I think, you know, a 27-year-old, Simone Biles, who won the Olympics is 27. She's more likely to stand up for herself and not accept the abuse. But also when you open that window of opportunity, I think you're not cramming so much training into such a short period of time that you're forcing an athlete to go back even when they're injured.

Because I didn't want to miss a season. The belief was you only had maybe four good seasons at the elite level in you. So if you had an injury, you didn't let it heal because you weren't going to miss the season. So, you know, opening the aperture, I think, allows for a healthier training environment. So when you say season, you mean like a year?

Yeah, but there's a competitive season when you're at nationals and championships to make the national team, to make the world championship team. You don't want to miss that window because then you're kind of out of the running. But now, I mean, Simone Biles took off a year and a half. That was unheard of when I did gymnastics. She took off a year and a half and she came back and dominated at the Olympics. Yeah, she's pretty good. She's pretty good. It was pretty amazing. You know what I couldn't get over?

was how high she could get in the air. So they showed on the... She could... Her body would get 10 feet in the air. That's how high a basketball net is, right? Or a brim. So then I looked up...

Well, how high is the record for women's high jump? And the women's high jump record is like seven feet, six inches. And she's doing. And I'm so I'm like, so I guess if you do the high jump, you can't do a flip first or something, because why? Go ahead. She's on when you say she's getting 10 feet in the air. I don't know if you're talking about on the floor exercise or on another event. Floor exercise does have springs in it. Oh, I didn't know that.

And it's gotten springier over the years. So the equipment has changed over the years. The bars are springier, so that flings them higher into the air. The floor mat. I mean, in the 70s, there were no springs. It was basically like tumbling on a piece of cement. And then in the early 80s, they introduced springs, but very...

decrepit, not very high functioning spring. So she does have springs, but it's interesting. You mentioned that about her, because I often wonder when normies are watching the sport, if they realize how much better she is than everybody else and how much harder the tricks are that she does. Yeah. I, uh, well, I noticed that, you know, she would do, um, uh,

Well, the last Olympics she was in, she would do the pommel, not the pommel. What's the one where they- The balance beam? That you hit the horse and you do a flip? Ball, ball, ball. Yeah. So she would do that. And she was doing like a double backflip, which no one had ever even, you couldn't even do that. Right. And so her degree of difficulty was off the chart that nobody was even attempting the things that she was nailing.

Yeah, that's right. It'll be many years before anyone reaches her level of difficulty. She's that sort of once-in-a-lifetime talent. It's kind of amazing. Some of the things, because you're watching them spin and twist so much that you might not know she's doing an extra flip and an extra twist when others aren't. Yeah, she's pretty remarkable. I don't know what else to say. But that, I mean, yeah, I mean, that was the most amazing thing to me. The second was that

almost all of them looked like real women. Like, yeah, I mean, I guess it's been, it's been a long time since I watched female gymnastics, but I, I couldn't go up. Like these look like, like women, like college, like they're on, they're older than college aged women. Right. Yeah. And yeah, she's 27.

Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's amazing. That is cool. I think it's awesome. And I think that they are in charge of their own, you know, athletic careers in a way that we certainly were not at 13, 14, 15 years old. And I think, you know, I don't know what you thought of this, but when Simone dropped out of the last Olympics, I think that is a result of that, that she was able to make a decision for herself about,

She knew that she was putting herself in danger. Now, would it have been better if she dropped out before the Olympics? Probably. But what people don't understand is how incredibly dangerous the sport is. And when you lose a sense of yourself in the air, you can break your neck. You can end up in a wheelchair. You can die. I know.

several athletes, gymnasts in wheelchairs. I know two that died doing the sport. So it's not like a slow day at the track where, you know, oh, I'm having a shitty day. My numbers are low. My time is slow. I mean, you literally are risking your life. So I don't think she would have been able to do that and make that decision for herself if she wasn't, you know, a grown woman. Let's just, you know, remind people that,

Of you know what led me to you was.

You were working for Levi's in an executive position, and you had an opinion, and apparently you're not allowed to have opinions, even if they're correct, that go outside the mainstream. To me, it's like what the Soviet Union used to be like, right? You're not allowed to go against the official narrative and opinion. You did. You spoke out. You thought that the kids should be back in class.

school which turns out to be correct we were fear-mongered about that that children were never at a risk from covid uh and now everybody admits that um except the people who you know still watch cable news uh so msnbc yeah they're the only ones i think so please so tell so can you just quickly tell your story again how that happened that you were asked to leave the company

Yeah, I worked at Levi's for 23 years, so I had a very long career there. Very proud of helping the company go public. Was the chief marketing officer for eight years, which is like a ridiculously long tenure in a CMO job. I was a longtime San Francisco resident. And as soon as school closures and lockdowns happened, me and my husband were literally day one, March 13th, if not before that,

We were very vocal and outspoken about how wrong that was, how...

it's just wrong. It's the most liberal thing I can imagine to lock people in their homes so then they can't run their businesses, they can't worship, they can't send their children to school. Now, of course, this whole time, the wealthy San Franciscans are sending their children to in-person school and yelling. And I was a wealthy San Franciscan. I'm not trying to kind of, you know, I was an executive, but my kids did go to public school. And I knew that student population and I knew that this was just disastrous. So I was very outspoken about it. The

people of San Francisco in general, San Francisco was a brutally oppressive place during COVID. We ended up leaving the city. We moved in the spring of 2021 to Denver, which is blue, but the schools were open. And we came so that our children could go to school. And ultimately I did, I resigned. I mean, it became too difficult, but here's the crazy part, Jimmy, after that,

It was impossible. I'd already sort of proven myself to be this dissident in corporate America. And so, you know, I needed a job. I have to work. I have four children. I am the breadwinner in our family. And but if there's anything I will say about, you know, how to get ahead in corporate America, you stick with the script.

You don't use your own voice. You don't speak in your own words. And so as I began to interview, you know, I took a little break, but then I started to interview for big jobs, CEO jobs. And I was asked repeatedly if

if I would publicly apologize for my actions. Now, this is in 2023. This is like long past the time when the New York Times is printing articles about the sort of devastating and surprising learning loss from school closure. It's surprising to no one paying attention. But, you know, I said, apologize for what? I did nothing wrong. I was correct. And so it quickly became very clear to me that

Going back to an established company in corporate America was not something that was going to be very possible for me. And so I started my own. I decided I was going to need to start my own company. And so that brings us to your new company. So here is your new company. You have athletic wear for women and men, and it's called XXXY Clothing. Yes.

And so it looks pretty groovy looking stuff. Now, is that who I think it is? Yeah. I mean, if you think it's Riley Gaines. It's Riley Gaines, right? Yeah. Oh, so Riley Gaines is a model. So look at that. And so now what led you to call it XXXY? Yeah.

Well, I think after we've all just watched the, you know, women's boxing in the Olympics, I think it's more clear to people why I called it that. But there is a truth. There are men and there are women. Women are XX, men are XY. It's called XXXY athletics. So, you know, it's really...

we're the only brand standing up for the protection of women's sports. There's all these athletic brands out there. They all claim to champion female athletes. In reality, Nike in particular treats women athletes like total garbage. It's been sort of very publicly reported on even by the New York Times. And so I felt like, you know what, it's time for, I'm a real athlete, a former athlete, but a real elite athlete.

I have the expertise in fashion business to make outstanding products. So this isn't just a gimmick. And I wanted to root it in the truth because...

Like the language is so screwed up now. We say men can get pregnant. We say boys need tampons. And so is it any wonder that a male can compete in women's boxing and beat the crap out of women and everybody cheers as this triumph of inclusion? I just wanted to kind of ground it in truth. There is such a thing as objective truth. We seem to have forgotten that. So I think like the Riley Gaines situation was she was forced to compete against it.

biological males who had gone through puberty as a male, right? And that gives you advantages, right? That your lungs are bigger, your bones structure, and there's a lot of people who think, well, if someone takes hormones for a certain amount of time, then it makes them equal, which it doesn't. And so I think they've lost that battle, the people who want to include biological males and

who have gone through puberty as a male in women's sports. And it is kind of mind-blowing to me that there is, that people, there's a reason why we have Title IX. There's a reason why you have women's sports. There's a reason why you have that. Hey, you know, here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a premium member. We give you a couple of hours of premium bonus content every week.

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only at your locally owned Big O Tires, the team you trust. Hey, I'm back with Curt Mexican. Guess what? So you remember this? Back in October of 2020, the Justice Department filed an antitrust lawsuit against Google for allegedly abusing its power and dominance over smaller rivals. So that would be like there being a monopoly.

and that's called that's what called anti-trust is right so the antitrust uh the guy who was teddy roosevelt was a big anti-trust guy right big trust buster

Right? And so that's why people loved him. And why do you want to break up monopolies? Because it makes the competition better. It makes capitalism better. Right? So monopolies screw you. And that's why we have a lot of monopolies already in the United States. Right? We have like three oil companies. We have like...

Two health insurance companies. We have three big... It's like socialism, Jimmy. Yeah, it sounds like socialism. We have two parties of every company. That's right. You don't get a belt choice. You can get a Republican or Democrat company for each private need. As George Carlin said, you get 42 different kinds of breakfast cereal, but you only get two political parties involved.

Two health insurance companies. It's the things that matter you don't get a choice in, right? Infinite genders, but two parties. Infinite. So here, in the most significant action the federal government has taken against a tech company in two decades. That's Lena Kahn, right? Or no? So a rare bit, I think that is.

So that's why that guy wanted her out. So Reid Hoffman wanted that lady out, right? Yeah, probably all of them. A rare bid to break up Alphabet Google is one of the options being considered by the Justice Department after a landmark court ruling found that the company monopolized the online search market.

So they were found guilty of... So now... That's why Google was the most profitable company in the history of mankind forever until that Navivia thing or whatever the hell it's called. Navivia? Navivia. I don't know what it's called. I don't know what happened with it, but that's what it's called. Anyway...

But Google's now called Alphabet, too, by the way. I know. Look, I'm not saying X. I'm calling it Twitter. I'm still calling it Twitter. I'm saying Google. You know what's funny? When people say X, they go, oh, the ex-CEO of Twitter. The ex? You mean the former? The ex-CEO. They say it like... I hear you say Zitter. You hear that? Zitter? No, I haven't heard that. Oh.

So here, let's listen to a little news on this. This is breaking news. And Anna, it's kind of confusing because I know there's a lot of different cases circling Alphabet right now. Which case is this specific? Now, is he going to squirt her in the eye with that? Because that's what it looks like. That's what I'm thinking of her. Okay, anyway. And how much do we know about the Justice Department's efforts at Remedy?

You're absolutely right and there's kind of two things that I'm looking at right now. The first is the timing of this which gets to your second question because we do expect Apple, do expect Google to appeal that underlying liability ruling. If they're allowed to appeal before they go to the remedy trial then it could be as much as a year or two before we get to this actual discussion. If that appeal is left until after the remedy

discussion, then we expect to see a proposal from the Justice Department much sooner. So one thing that we're watching is the timing. The second thing that you also mentioned is the number of complaints facing Google right now. This is a case that was filed during the Trump administration that has just gone to trial.

If there's not a structural remedy that's actually achieved in this case, there could be another chance for the Justice Department to seek a structural remedy in the next case, which has to do with Google's ad tech business. So like you said, definitely a few things facing Google right now and a few opportunities for the Justice Department to look at Google's underlying business model.

And again, this is based on your reporting so far. So I'm curious to hear what specific remedies are under consideration or at least being bandied about as possibilities here. What is being bandied? Can you tell me? Let me check my the source. What is being bandied?

Do you have any reporting? Waved around? Waved about? Bandied. When you whip your dick out. What is being bandied? I like that she said, what is being bandied? Okay, here we go. That I think is most likely to be included from the people that we spoke with is... Well, one of the things being bandied...

One of the things being banned is a prohibition on the kind of agreements that gave Google the dominance in this market. So specifically, that's Google paying mobile device makers to make their search product the default on these mobile devices. We do expect the judge... So is she saying that one of the remedies is that Google would have to pay...

like people who makes mobile phones a fee for them having their mobile phones be the default, default internet search thing, be Google. Well, why don't they already do that? Why? I don't understand why they don't. Why, why do you need a judge to make, why? If I made iPhones, uh,

I would, if I was Tim, whatever the hell his name is over at Apple, I would tell Google, hey, if you want us to use your web browser as our default web browser, pay us some money. And if not, we're going to go to somebody else. And believe me, immediately there'd be another super successful web internet browser search engine.

Immediately. If it went from dog pile or... I can't even think of another one, but there are a couple. Well, Jimmy, they are on the same team because they have to collude with the intel agencies, so they're not allowed to do that. And so... So that's what I don't understand. And then the guys, the people who make Android, why wouldn't the...

Or the people who make like Samsung phones or the people who make, I can't even think of any phone makers. You should have went to Bohemian Grove and maybe you would get to know the answer. You know, or how about the people? How about the good people over at Zenith? The quality goes in before the name goes on.

Okay, so anyway, more to this.

the Android operating system and the Chrome browser. Those are two of the suggestions that we had heard from people with knowledge of this case. So that's something that the Justice Department is weighing right now. Also, how severe is their proposal in the remedy and how much they want to be negotiating with the judge on this.

And it's kind of confusing because I know there's a lot of different cases circling Alphabet right now. Which case is this specifically? And how much do we know about the Justice Department's efforts at Remedy? You're absolutely right. So I'm being I'm being texted right now. Friends of the show, Dana says that they do pay Apple.

Yeah. I, I, somebody here says Google does pay Apple 20 billion per year to be the default digging deeper. Google pays Apple already 20 billion. So I don't understand her reporting then on that, but we'll see. Included from the people that we spoke with is a prohibition on the kind of agreements that gave Google the dominance in this market. So specifically that's Google paying mobile, um,

So I missed it. Yeah. So what she actually said was, thank you, Dana. What she said is they're going to put a prohibition on Google paying phone makers to put there to be the default. Yeah. That that's one of the remedies that's being bandied. Kurt is that they could, they could stop those cash payments. Wow. Wow.

Okay. All right. They just whipped it out and bandied it around. They just bandied it about. Okay. So now I get it. I misheard her reporting. Here we go. Makers to make their. You know what? I'm just dazzled by her Charlie Brown shirt. Anyway, here we go. Yeah.

search product the default on these mobile devices we do expect the judge to uh... put a ban on that kind of practice for google as it was found to be a monopolist and then going from there you know it'll be really be up to the judge whether he wants to include these structural remedies you know maybe uh... forcing google to divest the android operating system and the chrome browser those are two of the suggestions that we had heard from people with knowledge of this case so

So when she says forcing Google to divest the Android operating system and the Chrome browser, that's a big deal, A. And I don't mean it in a Canadian A way, but B...

Um, that's going to be a huge, so they're going to be another huge company, right? So they have to divest, meaning they'll have to sell that to somebody or, Hey, here's what I know. Whatever it is, won't be enough. And it won't because they don't want it broken up. You know, people go, Oh, you can't, it's too hard to control everything. Well, not if you have a monopoly. It ain't real easy when you shrink down the competition.

So let's listen to the rest of this. That's something that the Justice Department is weighing right now. Also, how severe is their proposal in the remedy and how much they want to be negotiating with the judge on this? Okay. All right. So now we got it. Well, here's that. Is that the same lady maybe who wrote this? Antitrust enforcers soliciting input from outside companies. Judge ruled alphabet unit monopolized online search ads. A rare break.

A bid to break up, I mean, I don't know, is this redundant? Alphabet's, Inc.'s, Google is one of the options. It's going to break up Apple. So they're going to break it up. They're going to break up the Android and break up the Chrome, right? And also, they won't allow them to pay like Apple...

uh iphone people to make their browser the default browser the move would be washington's first push to dismantle a company for illegal monopolization since unsuccessful efforts to break up microfos microsoft corporation two decades ago i like to say decade hey and then here we are 20 years later and all the it went down for the planes and the hospitals yeah they didn't do that because they didn't do that

Less severe options include forcing Google to share more data. Or do you say data? I say data. With competitors. I like... Remember it used to be called computer dating? Remember that? Anyway. Computer...

And when you would see if you're at a comedy show and you would see like two guys in a grill, you go, what's this, a computer dating fuck up? And they would laugh. Anyway. Oh, you say computer in front of it. I thought you meant like jerking off. No, no, no, no. I'm dating my computer, you see. No. Competitors and measures to prevent it from gaining an unfair advantage in AI products, said the people who asked not to be identified.

discussing private well we have an ai system that identifies you regardless the government the government will likely seek a ban on the type of exclusive contracts that were at the center of this case against google okay in the if the justice department pushes ahead with a breakup plan the most likely units for divestment are the android we already covered this offices officials are now looking trying to force a possible sale of adwords

You see that, Kurt? Yeah. That platform. Don't be cynical. The platform the company uses to sell text advertising. I don't want to receive a text advertisement. Why would I ever get that? Why is that not being burned to the ground?

I wonder, so why did it take so... The Justice Department's discussions have intensified in the wake of Judge Emmett Mehta's August 5th ruling that Google illegally monopolized the markets of online search and search text ads. Google has said it will appeal the decision, but Mehta has ordered both sides... You think he's a...

You think he likes the new name of Facebook? But Meta has ordered the sides to begin plans for the second phase of the case, which will involve the government's proposals for restoring competition, including a possible breakup request. A forced breakup of Google would be the biggest of a U.S. company since AT&T was dismantled in the 1980s. And it only took it about a decade later for it to become another monopoly.

Right? Because how many cable providers do you get? You get maybe three, right? They're one of them. I'm getting Google service now. Yeah. And how many phone services are there really? I think three.

Justice Department attorneys who have been consulting with companies affected by Google's practices have raised concerns in their discussions that the company's search dominance gives it advantage in developing artificial intelligence technology. As part of a remedy, the government might seek to stop the company from forcing websites to allow their content to be used for some of Google's AI products in order to appear in search results. I don't understand what that says. I don't understand that.

divesting the android operating system used for about 2.5 billion devices worldwide is another one we already talked about that in his decision meta found that google requires device makers to sign agreements to gain access to its apps like gmail and google play store

I didn't know that. Those agreements also require that Google search widget and Chrome browser be installed on devices in such a way that they can't be deleted. Oh, I'm worried about China, though, and TikTok. Yeah, that's where I focus my worries. Not on this thing where they screw you right where you live. I go be China. So that effectively prevents other search engines from competing.

Meta's decision follows a verdict by a California jury in December that found the company monopolized Android app distribution. So these are multiple bad decisions for the Googles. A judge in that case hasn't yet decided on relief. I mean, I wonder what he's bandying. The Federal Trade Commission, which also enforces antitrust laws, filed a brief against

in that case this week and said in a statement that Google shouldn't be allowed to reap the rewards of illegal monopolization. Google paid as much as $26 billion to companies to make its search engine the default on devices and web browsers, and $20 billion of that going to Apple. Meta's ruling also found Google monopolized the advertisements. I like to say advertisements, or you say advertisements.

that appear, do you say aluminum or do you say aluminum? Aluminum, what am I? What am I? A goddamn limey? Appears at the top of the search results page to draw users to websites known as search text ads. Really? They've been doing a lot of monopolizing.

Yeah. Well, no one knows what anything is, so it's kind of easy. I wish they would make them get rid of YouTube. Wouldn't that be nice if Google had to get rid of YouTube? Why do they get to have it at all? I don't understand. I don't understand it either. Those are sold via Google Ads, which was rebranded from AdWords in 2018, and offer marketers a way to run ads against certain search keywords related to their business. About two-thirds of Google's total revenue comes from search ads. Did you know that?

No, I didn't know that. I did not know that. Did not know that. Two thirds of Google's total revenue comes from search ads, accounting to more than 100 billion in 2020. Boy, that's almost as much as a vaccine maker during COVID. Yeah, I think like a poor person, I told you, so I don't think a great stuff like, of course, two thirds would come from that.

Meta's ruling found that Google's contracts ensure not only that its search engine gets the most user data 16 times as much as its next closest competitor, but that data stream also keeps its rivals from improving their search results and competing effectively. Wow. For years, websites have allowed Google's web crawler access to ensure they appear in the company's search results.

But more recently, some of the data has been used to help Google develop its AI. Last fall, Google created a tool to allow websites to block scrapping for AI. I don't know what that is. After companies complain. What do you think that is?

Scraping. Scraping. Scrape. Oh, scraping. So remember the guy that was like, he was like, hey, we almost give me a job, your company. And he was showing where his plane was landing. Yeah. The whole thing. He was using a scraping tool. It's like it's like getting little bits of data that, you know, your trail that you leave and they have algorithms that just. OK. Compile that.

So in May, Google announced that some searches will now come with AI overviews, narrative responses that spare people the task of clicking through various links. The AI-powered panel appears underneath queries, watch it, presenting summarized information drawn from Google search results from across the web. I don't understand. This is all like...

And that's why it ain't getting fixed because nobody knows except a few nerds. I don't really understand what I just read. But here, let's wait for a lot of nerds to age. They're kind of hitting that point now. Yeah. Nerds that know how this works.

that programmed in Java and all script and all that. They're getting old enough now to know the scams, but there's a big lag because this is all, I don't know what none of this is. I gave Power of Attorney to Candy Crush. I have no idea. Well, let me, this is my last slide I'll read. Google doesn't allow website publishers to opt out of appearing in AI overviews. AI overviews, the fuck?

Since those are a feature of search, not a separate product, websites can block Google from using snippets, but that applies to both search and AI overviews. I have no idea what I'm saying. While AI overviews only appear on a fraction of searches, the features rollout has been rocky after some excerpts.

Offered embarrassing suggestions like advising people to eat rocks or put glue on pizza. That's just a good advice. Jimmy, the gravitas of gesturing to it with a back scratcher is very noticeable. Well, anyway, I think that overall it's good news. It seems like that Google will get broken up. I wish that they would make them get rid of YouTube.

I'd like YouTube to be its own company. I'd like YouTube to struggle a little. Well, we have to respect the legacy of Susan. Yeah, I know. Well, I wonder if she wished she didn't censor all that information on turbo cancers. She censored it in her own head, I guess. In her own head, too. So it turns out this was the female gold medalist boxer. That's a female boxer.

Yeah. That's a female who also has male chromosomes and super high testosterone levels. Not high for a woman, but high for a man. You wouldn't know. You wouldn't know to look at her. That's a lady. So J.K. Rowling and Elon Musk have both been named in a criminal. This is from Variety.

That's the picture that Variety chose to run. I didn't choose that picture. Variety chose that. Hollywood Magazine Variety. I didn't choose that picture. Why do you think Variety chose that picture?

J.K. Rowling and Elon Musk have both been named in a criminal complaint filed to French authorities over alleged acts of aggravated cyber harassment against Algerian boxer and newly crowned Olympic champion. How do you say your name? Imane Keefe? Kaleef? Imane Kaleef? Yeah. Imane Kaleef. There's nothing for this, right? I'm going to say Imane Kaleef. Here we go. Watch this.

So you can turn it down. As to the question of whether I qualify or not, whether I am not a woman or not, I have made many statements to the media saying that I fully qualify to take part in this competition. What do you mean? You mean that you have exact chromosomes that make you a woman? No. You mean that you have low testosterone? No. What do you mean you fully qualify? It says so on my passport.

That's how they, that's their standard. I'm not, here we go. And by the way, won the competition, her and one other female boxer who I, I won't get into that. I am a woman like any other woman. Except way better at boxing. Except way better at boxing.

So we had on now, I'm not saying that she's trans. That's not I'm not saying that. But if you have an X, Y chromosome and testes and you went through puberty as a male, you're not like every other woman. I'm I was born a woman. I have lived as a woman. I compete as a woman. OK, so I believe two out of the three. I believe you lived as a woman and you compete as a woman.

You're born with an XY chromosome. You were born with testes inside. But other people say also a vagina. So that's why it's confusing. And I'm not... Noice. Noice. And I'm not...

I'm not saying that that doesn't make for a hard life for a person. All I'm saying is that there, that doesn't make you a woman like every other woman. You're a little different. Make sure champions. What would it make you? Oh, finally a woman that could do something. That's all that was missing. Two non-descended balls. About time. Thank God for this woman. Here we go. There's no doubt about that. She says there are enemies of success.

That is what I call them. So anybody who questions whether an XY chromosome person with high levels of testosterone who looks like that and won every match 5-0. You know, only one other woman in Olympic boxing history has ever won every match.

Well, start practicing, gals, because there's a new lady in town. She's better than you. They are just enemies of success. So if you have any questions about it, you're just an enemy of success. And she's going to want you criminally prosecuted. Yes, about time. And just gives my gold medal an extra special taste because of their attacks. So you should be happy then if it tastes extra special. Why would you want them criminally prosecuted?

If it makes it extra special, you should be thanking them. J.K. Rowling and Elon Musk have both been named in a criminal complaint filed to French authorities over alleged acts of aggravated cyber harassment against Algerian boxer and newly crowned Olympic champion, Amin Khalif. Now, Bill Booty, the Paris-based attorney of Khalif, what a name, confirmed to Variety that both figures are

were mentioned in the body of the complaint posted to the anti-online hatred center of the Paris prosecutor's office on Friday. And did he go ahead and stick that up his vagina that has balls in it? Because why would they be able to enforce that? In a statement sent to Variety, the Paris prosecutor's office, the National Center for the Fight Against Online Hatred. Oh, my God. It's okay. You should be allowed to hate someone.

Well, I love her and I hate these people that are against success. Well, then you're not supposed to hate. Is it okay to hate someone? Oh, no, I'm going to be arrested. Now you're going to be arrested. Darn it. I'm going to Paris jail. It's freaky in there. They received the complaint filed by Khalif and announced that an investigation had been launched. Nice. Because they hated her.

I'd like to see China cops do this. I'd like to see that. On August 13th, the National Center for the Fight Against Outland Hatred contacted the Central Office for the Fight Against Crimes Against Humanity and Hate Crimes to conduct an investigation into the counts of cyber harassment due to gender public insults.

Because of gender, public incitement to discrimination, and public insult because of origin. Wait, I thought Muslims were the ones that were like real babies about nothing. Oh, wait, no, it's actually the West. That's weird. Remember? Yes. You draw. You can't draw. We're bad. Yeah. You baby, shut up. We have actual laws that are blasphemy laws with nothing to do with any God. No God. Just some maniac in France's feelings.

The lawsuit was filed against Twitter, which under French law means that it was filed against unknown persons. That ensures that the prosecution has all the latitude to be able to investigate against all people, including those who may have written hateful messages under pseudonyms. Says booty. Says booty. I could get arrested for just making fun of booty, I think.

The complaint nevertheless mentions famous, famously controversial figures. You see why I wanted to say this for the live show, right? I should have not. Now I'm angry. J.K. Rowling and Elon Musk are named in the lawsuit, among others, he said, adding that Donald Trump would be part of the investigation.

Trump tweeted, so whether or not he is named in our lawsuit, he will inevitably be looked into as part of the prosecution. I'd like to file hate crime against fat lesbian Jesus and that little girl standing in front of the guy with his balls hanging out. Khalif, who on Saturday won the Olympic gold medal. I want to file a hate because she's saying that people are just, they're, what did she say? Enemies of success. Enemies of success. Isn't that hatred? Are you inciting hatred against me?

I hate successful women, Jimmy. I don't know, Jimmy. I think Khalif sounds like a little bitch. Takes a lot of balls to do this. I'm following a hate crime against that Australian breakdancer lady. I would too.

She spent much of 2024 Olympics in Paris at the center of a noisy and unpleasant dispute about her gender eligibility that reverberated around the world, despite being born female and not identifying as well, says you. Who gives a shit what you identify as for a sporting event, by the way, that doesn't even count. OK, she does. It's a biological thing. I don't care. How does that even factor in? How would that factor in? Unless you're an idiot. So the Olympic Committee said,

asserted scientifically this is not a man fighting as a woman. Oh, yeah. The woman who got her face mashed in, she can't talk no more. She faced a torrent of accusations and abuse over her gender simply because she has male chromosomes. And I was told, challenged the veracity of this, that she went through puberty as a male. That's the information I've gotten. Maybe I have false information. So wait, what does that mean going through puberty as a male? Her outfit was different?

What does that even mean? Does she have a dick or not? And what balls are not, I mean, balls are a big part of it. Well, I think, I think, you know, puberty is about hormones, right? Traditionally. And like, so that means two things. So Esther's estrogen. And then there's a testosterone. Testosterone is the male.

And so I know that for a fact she had high levels of testosterone, not just high level for women. Again, this is just information I've read. So maybe challenge the veracity of it. But I read that she had high levels of testosterone, not for a woman, but for a man. Here's two things traditionally that make a man. Having a set of balls and beating the crap out of a woman.

Most of the attacks came via social media, particularly on Twitter, and the controversy was escalated when high-profile figures stepped into the fray. In one message to her 14.2 million followers, J.K. Rowling posted a picture from Khalif's fight with Italian boxer Angela Carini, accusing the former of being a man who was enjoying the...

The distress of a woman he's just punched in the head. Don't you mean success, J.K. Rowling? How come you're all this magical shit? You don't understand magical creatures that have balls and a pussy. Musk, meanwhile, shared a post from swimmer Riley Gaines that claimed men don't belong in women's sports. The Twitter owner co-signed the message by writing, absolutely.

I want her brought to justice as well. Trump posted a message with a picture from the fight with Karina accompanied by the message, I'll keep men out of women's sports. There were no men there. Booty also claimed that while the lawsuit was filed in France, it could target personalities overseas, pointing out that the prosecutor's office for

combating online hate speech has the possibility to make requests for mutual legal assistance with other countries. Oh, that sounds solid. That sounds like it'll work. He added that there were agreements with the United States equivalent of the French office for combating online hate speech. This ain't Canada French. You suck our dicks that...

Logan Paul, Logan Paul was also among those who attacked Khalif on social media, posting on Twitter following her win against Karini. Quote, this is the purest form of evil unfolding right before our eyes. A man was allowed to beat up a woman on a global stage, crushing her life's dream while fighting for her deceased father. This delusion must end.

Logan Paul later deleted the post and admitted that he might be guilty of spreading misinformation. This asshole is suing CoffeeZilla for a million dollars for exposing one of his major scams when he could just pay the money back that he agreed to do in the first place. Logan Paul, hilarious. What a piece of shit. By the way, I don't know what's going to happen to him with this crime he committed.

Maybe he'll be prosecuted for this before the actual real crime he did. But for Booty, such apologies, including those that Khalif has received personally from prominent figures who tweeted derogatory comments, wouldn't change anything regarding the investigation. The lawsuit is filed and the facts remain.

Kaleef's complaint for online harassment is actually one of several filed with investigations launched during the Paris Olympics. Prosecutors are also investigating a complaint filed by Thomas Jolly, the artistic director of the opening and closing ceremonies, who said he was the target of threatening messages and insults and others from DJ Barbara Butch and celebrated drag queen.

and celebrated drag queen nikki doll butch claimed she had received online harassment death threats and insults following the opening hey welcome to the fucking world wait she's a woman orber butch welcome to the world you don't get to be insulated from people being mean and saying mean things oh you just got signed up to the investigation my friend why do you hate success

So here this guy says, what we're asking is that the prosecution investigates not only these people, but whoever it feels necessary. If the case goes to court, they will stand trial. Attorney Nabil Boudi said to Variety, Boudi said the lawsuit could target personalities overseas. I already read this. Khalif went viral after dominating.

in the Olympics despite failing a gender test the year prior. Well, they've changed the rules of the gender test. Yeah, now all you have to do is show your passport, I think. They used to have a box that said, do you have a set of full balls?

Media outlets like AP, ESPN and NBC are grossly misleading readers about a boxer, Ameen Khalif. They refuse to mention that Khalif failed a gender test and has an XY chromosome. Instead, they blame right wing media for gender misconceptions. She can't deny she has XY chromosomes.

I just love that J.K. Rowling, Miss Feminist, Dark Occult, Harry Potter writer, is now being beaten by better women. I love that feminists have to take this. Hey, where are the feminists that do anything about this? Oh, it was bullshit the whole time, I guess. What do you mean? Feminists was bullshit. That's why you don't see them no more. You don't see no more feminists because they all got into this shit.

Actually, I'm not a feminist anymore because my husband doesn't want me to be. There's the spirit. Okay, that's it for this week for us. You can see Kurt. You can see Russell Dobular. You can see Mike McRae. And you can see Alex Jones this Friday at the Romova Theater in Chicago. There's just a few tickets left. And then the next night we're going to be in Grand Rapids, Michigan, eh?

So we'll see you there in Grand Rapids at the Wealthy Theater. Kurt, do you have anything you want to announce? Anything? I'll just see you at the theater and then go on KurtMeisterComedy.com for my September dates. All right. I'll see you Friday. Hey, become a premium member. Go to JimmyDoreComedy.com. Sign up. It's the most affordable premium program in the business.

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