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So it is not just Nancy Pelosi who has been hit by a thunderbolt literally on the road to Damascus.
A lot of people have been seeing the light on Israel all of a sudden, all at the same time. It's kind of remarkable. So we've seen Nancy joined 40 House Democrats. Elizabeth Warren suggested Israel's actions in Gaza could be ruled as a genocide by international courts.
And it's not just elected officials. It is media pundits that you would never expect. This is from Suleiman Ghali posted this. The cracks in the walls of the dam are getting bigger. Former Condoleezza Rice advisor and NSC spokesperson Elise Jordan erupts at President Biden's unwillingness to condition weapons aid to Israel. Keep in mind.
This is a former Condoleezza Rice advisor. She worked in arguably the most criminal administration this nation has ever seen. This has been bubbling up from behind the scenes for a while. President Biden, frankly, is furious at Prime Minister Netanyahu.
But yet still his administration has not conditioned sale, weapons sales, conditioned aid. They haven't done it yet. Now, maybe this is the moment that comes. This also happens just, we think, a week or two perhaps before this Rafa offensive, which really could be a flashpoint. Okay, I'm so sick of hearing how upset President Biden
stops with him if he wants to stop arm sales wow he wants to stop the bombs that are indiscriminately killing civilians he can he has the power we don't need him going and his aides going to reporters and talking all back around about how upset they are
What happened yesterday is still going to happen. At Mika's conference, the head of the Palestinian Red Crescent spoke and she was incredibly moving. This was in Abu Dhabi. And she spoke about the difficulty of aid getting in the country, period, from the north or south. And she described a process that was kind of like the TSA changing the rules every single day going through airport security. Until those checkpoints are working and aid is going through,
we don't need to be giving any more arms sales or money it needs to stop it needs to be conditional it's ridiculous that it's going on unchecked and unfettered and we're sitting around and talking how upset we are while we hemorrhage billions of dollars it's the worst of all worlds right now well all right so when she says what happened yesterday she's referring to the WCK uh attack
That's the World Kitchen. What does it say? World. What is it? World Central Kitchen. World Central Kitchen. That's that Andre. Same organization. Right. That Pelosi's friend runs. All right. So that's what she's talking about when she says what happened yesterday. So now you got Richard Haas. No, no more of a swamp dwelling deep state ghoul than Richard Haas. This is this is actually another part.
of the same segment. Let's see what he had to say about this. - Six months, we're reaching the six month milestone of this war. That's one fact to begin with. And two things have happened in the last few days. One is these attacks are continuing.
And yet, so are U.S. arms transfers to Israel without conditions. They've been going on for six months. Why does Israel need 2,000-pound bombs to be used in high-density populated areas? I can tell you why. Ten days ago, what does Israel do? It expropriates 2,000 pounds.
Because they want to slaughter as many Palestinians as they can. Okay, keep going.
If the territory isn't there to build it on, you can talk about two states till the cows come home. You don't have it. Where is the administration reaction to that? So at some point, the words become empty. And the Biden administration is very close to having reached a point where their criticism of Israel is too much for the same people who criticize Chuck Schumer. But it's not nearly enough to affect the course of what is going on. That is the worst of all possible. It looks weak and empty.
Wow, Richard Haas. He's the president emeritus of the Council on Foreign Freaking Relations. Are you kidding me? No more deep state credential than that. So how does this keep going on?
So if you got people from Condoleezza Rice and Richard Haass, I mean, come on. Well, but this is very recent. This was very quick. They flipped on a dime, and that's what we're going to look at. Why did they flip on a dime? Okay, so Morning Joe, surely Morning Joe is going to take Israel's side in any conversation. Why did Benjamin Netanyahu...
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I think, if anything, October 7 shattered that concept. And it's my understanding. But you just said you always knew there were Nazis. I always knew there were Nazis. I would never give. We were always angry that Qatar funded Hezbollah and Hamas. I want to know, why did Benjamin Netanyahu do that? Let me ask you this. Why did Benjamin Netanyahu and Donald Trump know in 2018 the sources of Hamas's illicit funding...
And they still did nothing. They wanted that money to get to Hamas. I'd like to know why, because we don't know in America. Have there been any investigations in Israel at this point? I'm sure we'll investigate it. And I totally agree with you. That Qatar is a wolf in sheep's clothes. No. Yeah. No, I love that part. I love that part. That is so sad.
typical Zionist propaganda technique to deflect. No, no, no. Oh, yes. No, no. He's asking about Benjamin Netanyahu. Right. They're so used to being able to get away with this kind of bullshit that they're actually pretty incompetent once they get challenged. They're used to being not able to just make this completely irrational deflection. Why is Joe Scarborough acting like he just found this out?
He's known this. I've known this. Well, we're getting to that. Because this article came out in December that he's referencing. Yeah. The New York Times article that covered that. And there have been other articles. But I mean, an article they would pay attention to has been out since December. Okay. No, no, no, no, no. I must correct you. Benjamin Netanyahu was asked by the leaders of Qatar, do you want us? Do you want us, Qatar? No.
to give money to Hamas? This was in September. And Netanyahu's representative said, yes, of course. Okay. All right. Okay. Wow. Okay. So we got into in the previous segment how Pelosi is a personal friend and supporter of Jose Andres. Now, I want to make it clear before we get into the rest of this segment that
The intention here is not in any way to minimize the heroism of the world central kitchen workers who lost their lives. Is it not in any way to mock or denigrate them? Those people have a kind of courage. I,
I would never know. I mean, I would not be there knowing what I know about the Israeli military, which I'm sure they knew more about it than I did. That is not the point of the segment. The point of the segment is coverage, media bias, and the bias of our political class towards certain kinds of people and not others, what Noam Chomsky calls worthy and unworthy victims. So we already knew this article is February 28th.
that Gaza's death toll exceeded 30,000 by that time. And the article is about why it's an incomplete count. That is just what they were able to account for. They know there are tens of thousands of other people unaccounted for, right? So we knew that for a while, right? This article is February 29th, 29th. And here's an entire family
That was wiped out. Let me see if I can read that. Amman Abu Said far right with her mother, sister, Yakin and father. Everyone in this photo was killed in an airstrike on October 31st, 2023. Okay. All right. So now here's an article about the world's central kitchen workers killed in Israel.
So let's see who was killed there. A dual U S Canada national, a Palestinian. They had a Palestinian driver, three Brits in Australian and a pole were killed by the IDF strike. So that's them. Now let's see if you can see what the difference is between the two sets of victims. So you had over 30,000 Palestinian victims killed.
The day before a mostly white crew of aid workers, which again, this is not in any way to denigrate their courage. I can't even imagine having the courage these people have. This is about who the media and who the political class will respond to the deaths of as opposed to others.
They already knew there was this horrific genocide of Palestinian people and they're dragging their feet. They don't want to say genocide, maybe a ceasefire, maybe not a ceasefire. As soon as a predominantly white group of aid workers was killed. Well, you just saw the result. You just saw the result. All of those media stories were referencing genocide.
Why weren't they referencing this family wiped out on the bottom? Why were they only referencing the ones at the top? So is this cherry picking? Is this unique? Well, no, it's not unique because now this put together an interesting compilation of the way reporters reacted to the invasion of Ukraine. Now, it's funny because a lot of people will talk about how woke Ukraine
The media is. But that's really at a surface level. When you when you dig deep down, these are these are pretty privileged people from pretty privileged backgrounds who very often have exactly the kinds of biases that they want to cancel other people for. So let's take a look at this.
"Relatively civilized." "They look like any European family." "Christians, they're white." "You know, this is a relatively civilized, relatively European, I have to choose those words carefully too, city where you wouldn't expect that or hope that it's going to happen." "When they say, 'Oh, civilized cities,' in another clip, 'Well-dressed people,' and 'This is not the third world,' they really mean white people, don't they?"
Now with the Russians marching in, it's changed the calculus entirely. Tens of thousands of people have tried to flee the city. There will be many more. People are hiding out in bomb shelters. But this isn't a place, with all due respect,
you know like iraq or afghanistan that has seen conflict raging for decades you know this is a relatively civilized relatively european i have to choose those words carefully too city where you wouldn't expect that or hope that it's going to happen i haven't seen that guy wow we're doing this to white people now hey come on doing it to doing it to iraq for a couple of decades now the unthinkable has happened
The unthinkable has happened to doing it to white people. And this is not a developing third world nation. This is Europe. Wow. This is who these people actually are. Oh my God. As you're talking to us, Matthew, we're playing in the latest pictures of some of the refugees trying to get on trains or trying to get out of Ukraine. And what's compelling is just looking at them, the way they're dressed. These are prosperous. Oh.
These are prosperous middle class people. These are not obviously refugees trying to get away from areas in the Middle East that are still in a big state of war. These are not people trying to get away from areas in North Africa. They look like any European family that you would live next door to.
These are not refugees from Syria. These are refugees from neighboring Ukraine. I mean, that, quite frankly, is part of it. These are Christians. They're white. It's very emotional for me because I see European people with blue eyes and blonde hair being killed, children being killed every day with Putin's missiles.
Wow. You know, that was exactly the way Hitler felt, actually. Yeah, isn't that amazing? You know, about the poor, blonde, blue-eyed people. So this...
incident, which of course, you know, you rely on the media to tell you about these things, but they're not going to tell you about these things. This flared up a little bit, mostly in the alternative media, not a lot in the mainstream media, and then it completely disappeared. These same people who very often want to talk about how racist America is. Yes.
They're the biggest racist. This is why I don't have a lot of, I don't have a lot of tolerance for when working class people are defined as particularly racist. Yes. The people who are giving you that definition are the upper classes that control the conversation, want to deflect attention from themselves. I know I didn't see like,
very overt racism until I went to college. I lived on a dorm where you had an African-American studies major in that university was the only one in SUNY. And you also had this was the kosher dorm. I sat down with a bunch of people from my suite who were Jewish. A bunch of black people sat down. They got up and left. I never experienced that at home.
But they will not tell you that these things happen amongst their class. They'll deflect it always to the lower class. And these journalists are the ones who love to do a segment on. We were talking with Taibbi about white rural rage about this book. They were all crazy about it. These are the same exact people who are crying about white people experiencing what these brown people, they supposedly care so much about.
go through on a regular basis, have gone through for decades, largely because of Western foreign policy and meddling in their nations. You got anything, Keaton? Yeah, no. I mean, I noticed that as soon as the Ukraine war started. I mean, that was a huge story that that guy, you know, said that and then, you know, had to apologize. I forget if he actually kept his job or if they actually...
fired him or suspended him. But yeah, no, look, it's very obvious. And, you know, we can't say that the world central kitchen strike is a a momentum shifter because the momentum was going against Israel before that. But it certainly was a breaking point. I mean, that certainly was the point at which the dam just broke. Because now when you got morning Joe doing
doing segment after segment after segment, advocating for suspension of arms shipments to even sanctions. I mean, that's almost illegal to talk about sanctions against Israel in this country. I mean, there are states that have BDS laws on the books. So, yeah, I mean, that's it. It's all falling apart. And I think a huge reason for it is because of what you mentioned. It's
It's worthy versus unworthy victims. All of a sudden, as soon as some victims that look like us, right, us, got killed, all of a sudden, tremendous action on the part of the media. They could have been saying this all along. This is the same media that a few short months ago was calling pro-Palestine protesters anti-Semites and trying to drum up fear about...
Rising anti-Semitism and never defining that outside of the movement to stop the genocide in Palestine. And all of a sudden, they've seen the light as soon as these aid workers were killed. You have anything, Jimmy?
I hadn't seen those clips. If I did, I was maybe still smoking pot. I don't remember. No, no, it's recent. It's very recent. Wow. That is, wow. First of all, great analysis. Exactly right. These are the people who tell you MAGA is racist. These are the people, the rural Americans are racist. And these are the people like, hey, these are civilized people, not like that.
The darkies, not like the darkies who have been bombing the shit out of them for the last 50 years and stealing their oil and slaughtering them indiscriminately and having guys like George Bush and Dick Cheney and Condoleezza Rice run a torture program on them. Oh, my God. These aren't people from Venezuela. These aren't the El Salvadoris. These are whiteys.
These are Christians. Yeah, I got to put that in the live show that we're going to do in Chicago in August. That's great. To literally say blonde. Come on. This is the master race they're doing it to over here. And that was a Ukrainian official, by the way, under Zelensky, who said that. So tell me again how we're not funding Nazis in Ukraine. Right. Exactly right. ♪
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over RFK's statement that Biden might be more dangerous than Donald Trump's. Let's see. Well, listen, I can make the argument that President Biden is a much worse threat to democracy. And the reason for that is President Biden is the first candidate in history, the first president in history
that has used the federal agencies to censor political speech, so to censor his opponent. I can say that because I just won a case in the Federal Court of Appeals and now before the Supreme Court that shows that he started censoring not just me. 37 hours after he took the oath of office, he was censoring me. No president of the country has ever done that. The greatest threat
A democracy is not somebody who questions election returns, but a president of the United States who used the power of his office to force the social media companies, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, to open a portal and give access to that portal to the FBI, to the CIA, to the IRS, to CISA, to NIH, to censor his political critics. President Biden, for the first president in history, used his power over the Secret Service
to deny Secret Service protection to one of his political opponents for political reasons. He's weaponizing the federal agencies. Those are really critical threats to democracy. Donald Trump, of course, tried to overturn a free and fair election. He tried to overturn one, right? He's still fighting in court. How is that
not a threat to democracy. Well, I think that is a threat to democracy. If you get him over trying to overthrow the election, clearly is threat to democracy. But the question was, who is the worst threat to democracy? And what I would say is, you know, I'm not going to answer that question, but I can argue that President Biden is because the First Amendment, Aaron, is the most important. But Adams and Hamilton and Madison said,
We put the guarantee of freedom of expression in the First Amendment because all of our other constitutional rights depend on it. If you have a government that can silence its opponent, it has license for any atrocity. So just to be clear, you're saying you could make an argument that President Biden is a worse threat to democracy than Donald Trump. Absolutely. But who else is? Okay. Those are all fair points. Just a note on that. It is funny.
he got in trouble for this or not got in trouble. He got some like pushback and he tried to walk it back. He tried to say, because Aaron Burnett says, you're saying you could make an argument that Biden is a bigger threat. And he said, absolutely. So then when he got, uh,
called out by some liberals for saying, you said Biden's a bigger threat. He said, no, no, I didn't say that. I said the argument could be made he's a bigger threat. So he tried to waffle it a little bit there, which is interesting because I think the point as its own point, I think it is valid. He probably just should have stuck to that.
Yeah, well, Cenk actually backed him up on that, on having been misinterpreted. But we know, I mean, this is what we called out with RFK very early on. He's another one. He's a lawyer. He's a lawyer. He's very slippery. Oh, I didn't say that. I said you could make the argument. I said you could say that. I didn't say it. I said one could say it. He always leaves himself wiggle room. He always leaves himself some kind of plausible deniability.
Um, which is one of the reasons from very early on, and we caught a lot of shit for it. We were not RFK stands. Um, okay. So Shank decided to weigh in on this and it goes in some surprising directions, particularly in relation to an interview with,
He gave to Brianna and Robbie on the hill, which seems to contradict a lot of what he says here. So let's see what he had to say. I'm going to say a couple of surprising things here. First, I'm going to agree with Kennedy on four things. Then I want to tell you why what he's saying is partly a trick. And so, you know, be careful, you know, about his tactic here.
But then I have something even more surprising to say. All right, so first let me tell you the things I agree with. The headlines are wrong. He didn't say that Biden is definitely a bigger threat. He said he could make an argument for that. And you've got to be careful with that. And you know what the mainstream media loves to do. They love to smear anyone who's an outsider. So boom, they took that as an opportunity to do that. So he's right about that. Number two, he
He's right to be concerned about Biden being a threat to democracy himself, maybe not for the reasons that he's stating. But Biden did support anti-democratic movements within the primary. The Democratic Party canceled the election in Florida. They tried to keep out every candidate in North Carolina, Tennessee, etc. So they love to rig elections. Yes, I use the word rigged.
OK, so you can go cry about it if you're mainstream media. How about you do your job and talk about how they canceled the election in Florida in the primary and just declared Biden the winner. So if you're going to make the argument that you're a champion of democracy, you should probably try it in your own primaries. OK. All right. Very strong, very strong words from Cenk. According to Cenk Uygur, the Democratic primaries are rigged.
Let's go back in time. Back in time, I would assume, before he tried to run in the Democratic primary. Yes. Right. Yes. Well, yeah, this was before he announced. This is when he thought he could sell his book without a half-assed presidential campaign. Right. Yeah. He was going to see how the book sales went. He was just doing the...
The rounds on the book, and then all of a sudden he got the bright idea when he saw his book ranked 87,000 on the Amazon list for political books, as we covered on our own show. He decided to run for president. That's my theory.
And in the primaries, Marianne is at this point clearly the best candidate. It's not even close. OK, but as you see there, there's one thing I want to quickly correct is, in my opinion, I don't think the Democratic Party has much power at all. So they set the debates. They said this. They said that. I understand that. But they don't rig votes. Oh, oh, so it's not rigged then.
It's not rigged or it is rigged. Which is it, Jack? You just set all the context. And I hate the rules that they set and I think they're deeply corrupt. But that's not the number one problem. The number one problem is media.
If Marianne Williamson got the same amount of respect and coverage in the media as Joe Biden did, Vivek Ramaswamy gets, then Marianne would be in a real contest with Joe Biden. But the media freezes her out, shames anyone who supports, oh, she's not serious. Like you morons are serious? You've ruined this country.
Okay. If I could just interject one thing, this is the delusion. This is slightly off topic, so I won't spend too much time on this. This is the delusion of these progressives is they believe that the people are really on their side and they're just being screwed by the media or they're being screwed by the DNC. And that if Marianne Williamson were given a fair shot, she'd be in a neck and neck race. No, she would not. No, she would not. Uh,
The voters are not on her side for better or worse. Obviously, there are a lot issue by issue. Sure. I prefer Mary to Joe Biden issue by issue. She's not a serious candidate. I still wouldn't support her based on her Ukraine stance alone. This was pre-October 7th. But this this obsession with the fact that, oh, no, actually, the people are on our side. It's just the media. It's just the DNC. It's just these sort of institutional hurdles that we have to overcome.
That has not borne out. The numbers just do not back that up. Okay, and aside from that, I don't think we've really gotten into this too much on this show. Okay, you have an entire PMC class of commentators, and I call them the first and second wave of commentators. The first and second wave of people in this space doing independent media.
Tended to be from pretty privileged backgrounds, and that's why they established themselves They had the capital they had the means to establish a channel and also frankly I've talked a lot about how working people they have a peasant mentality very often and Part of that is not thinking that anyone's gonna want to listen to you because who are you right when you're when you're raised in more privilege you it's the opposite and
You think you have the God-given right to tell everyone what you think and to represent your historical moment. Now, not coincidentally, all of what I would define as this first and second wave of PMC professional managerial class commentators, that's what that means, all jumped on board with Marianne.
All jumped on board with Marianne, who, you know, is is almost the living definition of a deeply unserious candidate. I think I think this is my personal opinion. Anyone, anyone who told you that Marianne Williamson was a political project worth investing in is someone you should never take seriously on any political subject again.
Because it shows, at best, a complete lack of political depth.
At worst, it represents a grift. At worst, it represents some kind of self-interest. Hey, if I can get on board with this nonsense campaign, maybe it'll gin up my subscriber count because I can hitch myself to that, as I think was the case certainly with Kyle Kalinske and his dominatrix there, Crystal Ball. Now...
If you go on to some of the labor issues that Marianne has had, this also tells you something about the people who are continuing, even now, to sing her praises. It tells you how much they actually give a shit about workers. This is from Jen Dye's there headline. Seven ex-Marianne Williamson staffers say stop supporting her. You can look that article up. Their full letter is printed there.
From Politico, Marianne Williamson's abusive treatment of 2020 campaign staff revealed. Now, I know what some people might say, oh, but can you trust Politico? This history goes back 30 years. You can find articles in the Los Angeles Times from 1992.
describing people who worked for Marianne, making uncannily similar claims of incompetence, mismanagement, abuse, narcissism, and frankly, unstable behavior. And none of these people, not only have they not been curious about it, not only have they not done any segments about it, even as one campaign manager after another says,
is resigned from Marianne Williamson's campaign, even as one staffer after another, because she makes them sign draconian NDAs, allegedly have anonymously leaked what's going on inside that campaign. They are still telling you that Marianne Williamson was a serious candidate. You should have invested your time in that tells you something about these people right there. And in fact, just to drive it home,
This was very early in her campaign. She had an interview with our friends at RBN. Let's see how that went. Keaton, do you have anything before I play this? No, go ahead.
My support for Israel should not be at the expense of my Jewish values. And as an American, my support for Israel should not be at the expense of my democratic values. Right now it's becoming that way. And that's a problem. Marianne, I appreciate the answer, but I talked to the Palestinian community network, got a lot of Palestinian allies. They will not find that to be an acceptable answer. Well, I know. Right.
They have one state where everyone has equal rights under the law. The Israel Zionists are not to be trusted to implement a two-state solution. That has been shown many, many times. So I hope you have conversations with some of you Palestinians. That's a hard one. Well, wait a minute. Wait. No, no. I just want to also want... Are you going to respond to that as well? Because I know you have limited time because also... Okay. I would like a chance to respond. Yeah, go ahead. And I want to ask you about Ukraine as well. Go ahead.
Yeah. What I would say to you is when you say you have a lot of Palestinian friends, how many Palestinian friends you have? I have a lot of Palestinian friends. You say you've talked to Palestinians. I have talked to Palestinians. So I don't think we have a contest here. If you're telling me you know Palestinians and I don't. So that doesn't work for me. So the point is right now, if you're not going to let me talk, honey, there's no point in this if you're not going to let me talk.
If you're not going to let me talk to the things you say, then there really is no point. We are having a conversation. No, we're not. No, we're not. You're doing a lot of mansplaining here and you're telling me what is. You're asking me and then not giving me a chance to respond. Go ahead.
He's mansplaining to her. That's the person that Cenk claims is the very serious candidate that the media did not give enough of a chance. It's not that the media doesn't have these biases, but certainly Marianne Williamson is not the person to make that argument for. Anything, Keaton?
Well, yeah, look, I mean, the idea that were she given a fair shot or were any of these candidates given a fair shot, they'd run neck and neck with an incumbent Democratic president is just absolute nonsense. Absolute nonsense. Now, this formulation that he's making now in the context of what RFK said, is Biden the bigger threat to democracy than Trump? Yeah. I mean, I think there is a strong case to be made for that.
But it's interesting that he started making that case after he tried to run himself. I mean, he didn't really try to run, but he threw his hat in the ring and saw how impossible it was. Tried to sell some bucks and he still couldn't move them. All right. So let's see what he has to say because he continues on rising. What he has to say about getting involved in third party candidacies.
But yes, when you get to a general election and somebody's sitting at 3%, another two guys are sitting at 40%. Well, brothers and sisters, I love you, but there is a reality that you are in fact...
Taking a vote that would be against Donald Trump and you're putting it in a category that is not going to win and you all know that. I'm not saying today, I'm saying if you get to election day and the polling still shows that. And don't give me this crap about, I don't believe in polling, I think 3% could magically turn into 51%. But if on that day your candidate's definitely not going to win, why would you help Trump? Why? Why would you help him? It just makes no rational sense to me. Let me ask you this,
All right. So he makes a vote blue no matter who argument there. And if you're familiar with Breonna's position, she's kind of over that in this election cycle, at least thus far. She's been making a strong post-duopoly argument. So let's see what he has to say about RFK here. But the most surprising thing is, for the first time today, I'm now considering RFK Jr.,
Now, I know, shocking, right? No, no, no, hold on. Let me tell you what. Alright, listen, man. I know people have a lot of feelings about Anna, but this is becoming like spousal abuse.
Honestly, like you could just see every time he he comes out with another one of these harebrained schemes to try to get back the viewership that he lost with Russiagate on down. You could just see her like, what kind of shit am I going to have to eat now to keep this gig? Yeah, this is like, look at her face. She's dying inside.
This is like if Kramer and Jerry were married and every crazy idea that Kramer had, Jerry had to kind of support in some way because he's tied to him. Yeah. Yeah. Like if Jerry had no agency, he just had to go along with whatever. We're going to drop a giant ball of oil out a window rather than Jerry being able to just like roll his eyes. Yeah. Good luck with that. You know, he would have to be like.
seriously, we're going to drop a giant bowl of oil out of wind. You know, like that's what this is. Like she, she can't just, she can't just dismiss out of hand his crazy ideas, whether it's like running for president or now doing this complete one 80. She's like, wait a minute. What? Right. What? You're going to completely reverse everything you've been saying for the past eight months yet. Well, you can see he, he, he didn't prepare her for this. And look, my read is,
So, to continue...
So is it because I think, maybe he's right about vaccines? No, he's cuckoo for Cocoa Pops on vaccines. And on several other things where he believes in conspiratorial theories that I don't believe in at all. So why on God's green earth would I consider RFK Jr? Well, until now I hadn't because of those crazy things that I don't come anywhere near believing. But I thought about it, Anna and Trump, I would never support in a million years.
Biden is now funding a genocide. Oh, you don't say. You don't say. Well, I mean, I could see why that would bring you to RFK. RFK is much better on this, right?
Speaking of Kyle's sugar mama, this was on breaking points here. The Palestinian people are arguably the most pampered people by international aid organizations in the history of the world. Are you kidding me? No, I'm not. Even before this war, 78% of people in Gaza said they had not enough food to eat. Right. And why is that? Why are you blaming Israel for that? In part, it's Hamas. And in part, it's the fact that Israel imposed a blockade and talked about putting them on a diet. If your neighbor...
First of all, Israel has no obligation. It's not Israel's fault. Gaza is poverty-stricken. Gaza should be one of the wealthiest states on the Mediterranean. They have no control over their own territory. Of course, if you go to war, if you go to war. Everything that comes in and goes out. If you go to war, no. Crystal, Crystal, why are you blaming, why do you insist on blaming Israel?
That is maybe the most remarkable part of this entire thing to me. He says nothing about RFK's position on Israel. And he actually brings up the subject by saying Biden is committing a genocide. And then he just he keeps going. I watched the whole segment to make sure I wasn't taking it out of context. No, never brings it up. Pete.
I forgot about that part of the interview, actually. Gaza should be the richest country in the area. Wow. That is something else. But yeah, no, no mention of that. That is a remarkable pivot for sure. And I still don't really understand the rationale behind his formulation there. I mean, I'm starting to suspect the rationale. Yeah.
Well, look, I mean, I think on a serious note, I think, you know,
stations like like tyt um are very invested in making the most out of an election cycle like it's not lucrative or it's not nearly as lucrative to go into an election cycle with no candidate as it is to go in an election cycle with a horse to back because you can generate a lot of content and a lot of momentum and a lot of loyalty frankly if you back a certain horse and um
shows like our shows, like this one, who are more comfortable just, I don't know, telling the truth as we see it. If there's no candidate worth backing, so be it. We won't back anybody. These other channels, I don't think are as comfortable with that because they see this as, this is like the World Cup. It comes around once every four years. You got to be in it to win it. You got to back somebody in order to get all of that sort of
Momentum that comes with it. So maybe that's what it is. Well, that that was part of our take on Marianne when all of those class of commentators coalesced around her very early. Like, yeah, I think that was definitely part of it. And yes, in seriousness, I do think that's part of it. Like, they just can't imagine not backing a horse.
Like doing a whole election cycle. What are we going to go? An election cycle without rooting for anybody, without generating outrage. Oh, could you look how the media smeared our candidate in this interview? Isn't that horrible? You can do a million videos about that. They'll all do very, very well. You know, so it definitely helps a channel to have a horse to back. But I think if you look at.
the field and you see no one worth backing as I see no one worth backing in this cycle, even the candidates I am more aligned with on the issues have just proven to be a complete mess when it comes to organizations to the point where I could not in good conscience tell people to support them, to invest in them. Then you have to just sit it out from, you know, and, and that's, if that's the truth, as you see it, you just have to tell the truth as you see it. Period. Well, well, that is really why I'm so offended by,
By the way they tried to prop up Marianne. That's why I bring that up because being in this space, I remember when we first started bringing this up, we didn't have a lot of reach. I mean, we definitely, when that first came up, we had maybe 5,000 subscribers, right? And the first video I did on it, which was the Kyle lying about what the Politico piece said about her staff defections.
I said, look, you got a platform and people listen to you. You have a responsibility.
And now that we have a little more reach, I feel that even more acutely. Like when we go and endorse something in a political project, we feel a responsibility like because, you know, people trust you. You know, that's it. That's an enormous responsibility, man. You really you can't just talk shit like that. I find it offensive that you've got people who have.
such visibility who care so little about the people who watch and listen to them that they would just try to get them involved in things that I just can't imagine they don't know are just absolutely nonsense. Why are you doing that to people? Yeah, no, I think you're right about that. All right, so Cenk was not done. So am I positive RFK Jr. would be worse? Yes.
He would probably on health and science, definitely he would be worse. But on everything else like anti-establishment, money out of politics, I'm not positive RFK Jr. would be worse than Biden. Okay, I mean. And it just doesn't even know what to do at that point. So okay, so okay, but listen, to be fair,
To be fair, they didn't end the conversation there. And at the end, they made a bid to show their viewers, their remaining viewers, all six of them, that they are serious political thinkers and they do have serious proposals beyond RFK to offer to their remaining viewership. All right, so let's see what they came up with.
I know they don't believe it. I know I can't get it through his thick head that this is true. But if Jon Stewart ran right now as a third party candidate, he would win. He would flat out win.
Because that's a guy who's honest, his positions are almost identical to the American people's positions. He's against corruption, he's a decent human being and he's smart, my God. And he's funny, he's entertaining, people love people that are entertaining. Jon Stewart would win as a third party candidate, for God's sake, Jon, God damn it, do something. Don't leave us with these horrible options. God.
You know what? I saw Shecky Green the other night down at the Copacabana. He'd be great. Terrific. Yeah, no, like I said, they want a candidate. Please, somebody run who we can support. Somebody, preferably someone who was born here. How do you see that?
And then take these people seriously. Take them seriously as somebody that has an opinion that has anything other than comedic value. Really, Jon Stewart. Jon Stewart. Aren't you the same people who ran around talking about Trump's total lack of political experience and qualifications? Now you want Jon Stewart? What do you even talk? Jon Stewart, who very quickly got bullied.
From taking a very mild position on Biden maybe not being the best person to face off against Trump. Now it's all GOP Trump derangement syndrome 24 hours on his show that that one that's the one who's going to bring together the country and win in a landslide. Like what what the fuck are you even talking about?
What are you even talking about? Like it drives me crazy. You get paid to talk about politics. This is what you're proposing. Endorsing RFK after after claiming that, you know, vote blue no matter who, because there's no point to third party candidates. And now it's draft Jon Stewart. What are you doing? What are you doing? Go. Yeah, I mean, go open a pizzeria, hire some of these delivery drivers. They're out of work.
Well, when when your channel revolves around electoral politics and the election season is primetime, this is the kind of shit you have to cover. You have to gin up excitement and ratings around this kind of nonsense when you really can't do much of anything else. But we don't see this is what I don't understand.
The world's on fire. The world's on fire. There's more to cover than we are able to cover with two shows. We're doing two shows right now. We're doing Jimmy's and ours, and there's still stories we can't cover. Well, that's why we're in a different sphere.
Well, this is a different section. Like this crop of channels over here is sort of a different section of the online left, I guess. Like, you know, that that that T.Y.T. world revolves around this kind of very blue pill electoral politics stuff. And that is what constitutes a.
political channel in that space. And so that's how, that's the only explanation I have. I mean, what? So he was entertaining RFK for what? 90 seconds? And then he pivoted. No, nevermind. Jon Stewart, we need you, Jon Stewart. We need you. Dude, for God's sakes, do something. I hear Carrot Top is available. Yeah.
Another one for World War III watch. And also, I guess on a positive side here, when you've got an ancient ghoul like Leon Panetta telling the truth about Israel, time's up. Time's up. Game's over. So he just straight out, he didn't use the word war crimes, but he's describing them. Let's see what he said.
you have to be able to verify, to take time, to make sure that the information that you're getting is accurate with regards to targets. And I have to tell you that
In the past, at least in my experience, the Israelis usually fire and then ask questions. Wow. I mean, that's quite an indictment, is it not? I mean, when you're looking at the death toll here where there are more than 13,000 children killed, it strikes me it's a fair question to ask whether it is an intelligence issue or even a rules of engagement issue, but just a care issue, right? De-emphasizing civilian casualties.
There's no question. I mean, look, the IDF has done a quick investigation here. It's not surprising that they've said there are serious violations here. Serious and multiple mistakes were made that led to this disaster. And the real question is going to be, what are you going to do
to change the procedures for going after targets to make sure that they're verified and that you have accurate intelligence on those targets. That's a heavy lift, but it's going to be required. I mean, the United States, you know, frankly, you know, having gone after targets, particularly with Al Qaeda, there were moments where, you know, we were getting intelligence that somebody was there.
But we also had intelligence that there was collateral damage. And we said, no, do not fire if that collateral damage is going to happen. So they have to have some of the same procedures. Okay. All right. So on the one hand, this reptile admits the crimes of Israel. But then old habits die hard. The reptile.
claims that the United States, under his watch, was very, very concerned about collateral damage. If there was going to be collateral damage, we called it off and boom. Oh.
Obama led drone strikes kill innocents 90 percent of the time. You might some of you might remember that we had a 90 percent civilian casualty rate on Obama's drone strikes. That does not sound like a country that calls it off when there's going to be collateral damage.
So certainly we've done our own share of shooting first and asking questions later. But it does tell you something about Israel standing that someone like Leah Panetta would go on CNN and say something like that. Yeah, I mean, this kind of evolution in public opinion and in media coverage usually takes years and usually takes at least one person.
political cycle to sort of fully take shape. Whereas now what you have is a narrative around
This war that has just completely collapsed in six months. Yesterday was the 7th of April. That was the six month anniversary of October 7th. And I think there needs to be reconciliation for all the people who were canceled for speaking out on this at the time.
Obviously, that is a small price to pay compared to the ultimate price that the people in Gaza and in the West Bank who have been
brutalized as a result of this as well, have suffered. But there has to be some sort of reconciliation for that because you had students get their job letters rescinded over protests. You had people censored off of social media. You had people with their livelihoods taken from them over being right about this issue from day one.
And this is obviously not unique to this issue that happened around the pandemic where people got canceled for speaking out early who ended up being right in the end. It happened around January 6th. It always happens. After every major event, there's always a massive censorship wave where the first people out of the gate to actually tell the truth about it get muzzled. And then years later or sometimes months later, in this case,
Four or five months later, right? Now, six months later, CNN is actually talking about this. Morning Joe is bashing Israel now. But it always takes a certain period of time before everyone is allowed to speak freely about this. So there needs to be some sort of reconciliation here. So for everybody who got censored or canceled or got fired,
they should have some recourse because this was obvious from day one. I mean, this was just the most obvious thing in the world, right? COVID was different. It's microbiology. Who really knows, right? In the early days, right? Fog of war. Even Ukraine is a bit more complicated. This was, I mean, this is as easy as could be. This is as cut and dry as could possibly fucking be. And so the idea that people...
you know, lost jobs over this, lost livelihoods over this, lost the right to express themselves over this. That has to be rectified in some way.
The only way that will be rectified is if the entire dynamic flips to the point that the people who took those actions have to fear for their jobs. Because otherwise Zionists are Zionists or Zionists. They're not going to change their mind. They're not going to change their mind. They could open gas chambers in Gaza and these people would still be Zionists. You're not going to get them to come off that. I will say...
As this evolves, I'm starting to see some Zionists saying, yes, um,
If they're starving children, that is a war crime on both sides because don't you know, Hamas is doing it too. Right. Uh, no evidence for that other than Israeli claims of that. Um, and then, you know, they live in, we did that segment on Bill Ackman talking about, you know, new Gaza, his vision for new Gaza, which would basically be Hudson yards on the Mediterranean. Right. And, um, and, uh,
These people are living in a fantasy world, you know, that that Israel is going to be able to just like rejoin the family of nations after this, that it's not going to be a pariah state, that it's not going to face massive trade sanctions and ending of diplomatic relations around the world, that it's that it's not going to be completely ostracized.
I mean, it's interesting. You can see that a lot of the rabid Zionists are feeling like they have to give a little ground here. But as Caitlin Johnston's article pointed out, don't let them get away with blaming Netanyahu for everything. Netanyahu is not an aberration. He is a natural outgrowth of the basic premises of the Zionist political project. It has always been a settler colonial project. They went in.
in the Nakba, drove 750,000 people out of their homes, some of whom are still alive and still have the keys to those houses. Netanyahu, if you're going to keep saying Israel is a democracy, well, then Israel is responsible for Netanyahu, isn't it? He didn't just, he's not an aberration. He didn't just get in. He's been around for 20 years.
So what does that say about Israeli society that somebody like that has been elevated as his leader? Any way that you look at it, Israel cannot be separated from these crimes. Right, right. And, you know, like what that article also said is not only are they going to try to blame this on Netanyahu, but they're going to try and make it sound like this was not predictable from jump, which of course it was. And so there was never...
Any plausible excuse, and I'm not saying that previous excuses for censorship have been valid. I'm anti-censorship in all cases. But in this case, it was especially obvious to see what was going on in real time. And why? Because the truth of what was happening was completely obvious to everyone, not with a sophisticated knowledge of the topic, the most cursory knowledge of the topic. ♪♪
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