Are We Being Lied To About North Korea?
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Hey, come see us in Ashland, Virginia, Athens, Georgia, Rutherford, New Jersey at the Icarus Festival and Minneapolis, Minnesota. Go to JimmyDore.com for a link for tickets. Hey, this is Jimmy. Who's this? Hello, Jimmy. Oh. This is Liam Neeson on the telephone device. Hello, Liam on the telephone device. Good to hear from you.

And it is wonderful to hear your voice, my old friend. But I'm calling to talk about another old friend of mine. A friend who needs a break. Who needs to be welcomed back into the fold. No. To be let in from the cold. I think I know what you're talking about. I saw your tweet. Who are you talking about? Just to make sure. I am talking about Kevin Spacey. I know. Oh, my God.

Don't give me that. You knew this phone call was coming the moment we exchanged those articles about it over text messages. Fair enough.

Myself, Sharon Stone, and many other actors have called for Kevin to get work again. Yeah, I know. That's all he wants. Yep. To simply get back to work. Yeah. Yes. He's not a plumber. He's not a plumber, okay? Jimmy, listen to me. Yeah. In 2017, Kevin was matued. No, me too. Kevin was matued. What?

On Twitter. No, it's pronounced me too. Hashtag me too. In case after criminal case has been brought against him and he has defeated all of them. That's because those types of cases are notoriously difficult to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

The point is that he's been acquitted, which means he didn't do those things. That's the law, Jimmy. I don't make the law. Now, Kevin admits he used to behave inappropriately, but never criminally. He's taken the time to reflect on his actions, to learn to be a better man. Hey, people don't want to hire him because they don't want to work with him.

He's a notorious problem on the set. His sexual misconduct, notwithstanding the cast and crew of House of Cards. They threw a giant party for themselves when he got fired. Did you know that? Well, maybe it was a going away party. No.

Perhaps they were pre-celebrating the day when he would be allowed to return to it. Yeah, no. Parties just happen, Jimmy. There's no rhyme or reason to them. There is. Don't try and figure out the causes of parties, Jimmy. You'll simply drive yourself insane with madness. Liam, he's known for grabbing men's crotches and otherwise groping them. Young men. He's never grabbed my crotch. Oh, pfft.

And he's had ample opportunity. It's right there for the taking. When I'm sitting down, I have the stance of a disrespectful teenager. Okay, but that doesn't prove anything. There's no argument against it. Okay, but you're you. He goes for twinks. I'm afraid I'm not familiar with that term. You know, a twink, a young, effeminate, slender, lithe male.

No, sir. I am most certainly not a twink. Okay. Hold on. Guess what? I'm getting another phone call. Hey, this is Jimmy. Who's calling? Hello, boys. Heaven, is that you? It depends. Are you feeling lucky today? Jesus Christ. Mr. Spacey, I told you the Jimmy Dore show does not want to be associated with you.

Well, maybe you should start screening your phone calls, Einstein. Because daddy's back, baby. Jimmy, do you hear that? That is the voice of a repentant, rehabilitated man. Who's just looking for work. Who's just looking for work. So, Kevin, tell us.

Where have you been applying for acting jobs? So far, just Nickelodeon. Oh, that would be such a perfect place for you to land.

No, no, no, it wouldn't, actually. I got the idea from watching this documentary series on Netflix called Quiet on the Set. I thought to myself, the whole culture and vibe of this place would really fit me like a glove. I think I would be a real asset over there. Jimmy, can't you see? Open your eyes, man. This is a man humbly presenting himself to the entertainment world and saying, just let me do what I want.

let me practice my craft that i've honed to such perfection over the years right i am humbly reminding people that i was the best that ever fucking was liam can't you see that this is a man and uh this man is a wolf in sheep's clothing

Oh, Jimmy, don't be ridiculous. I don't know what to do with you sometimes. Sheep don't wear clothes. For the last time, that's wool that grows out of their skin. Jesus. You tell them, Brigadoon. Oh, Brigadoon.

Okay, you know what? This is really gross to me. I gotta go. We've gotta get out of this show, okay? Liam, Jimmy, please, I implore you. Just let this man be. Yes, just let me be who I am. Looking forward to being a part of these teen comedies. I think I'm perfectly suited. I bring a lot to the table. Including these really dope muscle relaxers I found in Brazil. Ha ha ha!

First you get a little spacey, and then you get a lot of spacey. All right. Goodbye.

Oh, my God. Yeah. Matured. So what do you think is causing this? What do you think all these celebrities at once, is it that they all have the same agent or something? Do they all owe a favor to Spacey? Because it could have happened to any one of us. I know why Liam Neeson is the most Catholic man who's ever lived. Yeah. You hear his explanations of like, maybe it was a pre-party for when he returns. Yeah. Well, I don't know. Why the ladies, though?

I'm saying, why would the ladies come out and support him now? The actresses? Yeah. Because all actors are stupid whores. They want to be cool. Cool girls. What's that? They want to be cool. Cool. See, I'm cool. Hey, some still carry a torch for Roland Polanski. Oh, no shit. I know. Why doesn't he go to France, Kevin Spacey? That's where they get it. Yeah. He should learn French. Or France. And he should learn France and go act in France. Yeah.

Oh, I wouldn't mind that one bit. I kind of like your idea more. Okay. All right, you creepy toucher.

Thanks for calling in. All right, Mike. Great job, pal. Au revoir, Jamie. Okay. Au revoir. Great job. Everybody can catch Mike McRae. He's MikeMcRaeOnline at Instagram, and he does a monthly show in Austin, Texas. Yeah, it's coming up a week from tomorrow at 9 o'clock at Oddwood Brewing.

on Main or near airport. Come out. We're going to have a little blowout because we're taking a break for the summer. We'll be back in the fall. So this will be the last one for a while. So come join us. My favorite stand-ups in Austin. So it's going to be like a Kevin Spacey party, huh?

It is. It's going to be very space-esque. Okay. He was matooed. He was matooed. He was grievously matooed. And honestly, we all know any one of us could have been matooed. Why? When I saw all the matooed. Okay. All right, brother. Great to talk to you. All right. All right. I'll talk to you again soon, my friend. Okay. Bye.

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Hey, come see us in Ashland, Virginia, Athens, Georgia, Rutherford, New Jersey at the Icarus Festival, and Minneapolis, Minnesota. Go to JimmyDore.com for a link for tickets. We have our new guest, Haz Aldin. I hope I'm saying his last name correctly. He's a self-described Marxist-Leninist and patriotic socialist. He's based in Detroit, Michigan.

He's the founder of the media collective Infrared, which airs on YouTube and Twitch and features live debates, commentary, and current events and discussions on politics, philosophy, and culture. Please welcome to the show, Haz. Hey, Haz, how are you? Good. How are you? Fantastic. Now, you tweeted this out.

So this is why I have you on. So you tweeted this out. You say, what if I told you that everything you're taught about this man, meaning Kim Jong-un and his country, is propaganda? What if I told you that North Korea is vilified because it is the one of the only countries in East Asia which refuses to be enslaved by international banksters?

What if I told you that all its troubles were the result of an extremely harsh sanctions imposed by the U.S. regime? What if I told you that people in North Korea are in general happier than in the South? No homeless, no organized crime, no prostitution or pornography, no unemployment and abundant housing for all. Sure, they don't have as much access to consume goods, but what they have is dignity and freedom, freedom from being enslaved by foreigners and banksters. There

Their land, people, and culture is free from the filth and poison of today's Western societies, and they take better, and they are better off for it. Do you really think the media has been telling you the truth about North Korea? Well, that's interesting. So now...

Since I started this show, I've lived through a lot of hoaxes perpetrated by the mass media and the establishment. So the first one was Russiagate. Second one was the Syria gas attacks and the Syria war. It was the Libya war. It was the Ukraine war. It was COVID. I mean, you can't – it's unbelievable how we are the most propagandized people in the world in the United States.

and they don't know it. They have no idea they're being propagandized. They think that Sean Hannity, Anderson Cooper, and Rachel Maddow are telling the truth. They think the New York Times and the Washington Post, owned by the richest handful of billionaires in the world, are somehow giving you the real truth about their class and their plans. They're not. So when I read that, I was like, I could believe that. So tell me, what do you base this on? Have you been to Korea, and how do you know this?

I haven't myself been yet. I think I plan on going soon, but I have colleagues and friends who have gone who are very knowledgeable on the topic, who have spoken to people there. But the main thing that I base it on is that when you actually do the research for yourself, when you investigate all of these ludicrous claims they make about North Korea,

everything, all these ridiculous claims made by that woman, Yenmi Park or whatever, all of these other kinds of tabloid stories. You go and find the primary sources and it almost always comes down to the extremely contradictory, extremely inconsistent narratives and stories told by defectors, all of whom seem to contradict each other. And then why is this? Why are defectors...

Coming from the north, telling all these wacky, bizarre stories about what's going on there. Well, you actually study and investigate it, and it turns out there's a financial incentive. They're being financially incentivized to make these ridiculous claims because they get more attention for it, because they get paid for it, and so on.

So I mean, you got to ask the question, why is there such a market for these ridiculous, insane claims that are made about North Korea, about how nobody's allowed to get the same haircut as Kim Jong-un and all this other nonsense? Why are we consistently told and depicted this?

that this is an insane kind of crazy country. It's totally 1984, totally Aurelian. It's a surreal country and so on. Well, I would answer that by saying that that is a country which in the eyes of the US and which in the eyes of NATO and the US empire basically isn't supposed to exist. And we can go deep into the history of it starting from the Korean War

But the whole context was when the Koreans liberated themselves from the Japanese, the Soviets and the Americans agreed that they would occupy different parts of Korea. Now, on the Soviet side of things, the Soviets packed up their things and left because they were requested to.

Whereas the U.S. would not let go of their occupation. And they helped put down several rebellions in the South, actually, which didn't want the U.S. to be there and also didn't want the U.S.-backed dictator to rule South Korea, to rule Korea. So and then through many of their 3000 border provocations,

um before the 1950 june 25th date which is what we think the start of the korean war is you know uh it's only after so much was done to attack on the border so much was done to undermine the sovereignty of the korean people that the north korea proper that's in our textbooks begins and that war was never not a lot of people know this it wasn't ever resolved

So formally speaking, the Koreas are still at war. And in a sense, we're still at war with the DPRK. So it's not supposed to exist, basically. It's a society that's not supposed to exist. Why is North Korea at war with South Korea?

Because neither of them recognizes the other. They both lay claim to a unified Korea, especially the North, especially the DPRK. They consider the South, and I think this is fair, to be an illegitimate state because of its historical origins. Because again, it was a military dictatorship backed by U.S. occupation forces, which had to slaughter tens of thousands of people to

In the beginning, in order to maintain its iron grip. And actually, South Korea was a dictatorship for most of its history. It was only very recently. You can correct me if I'm wrong. I think it was the late 70s or the early 80s that South Korea became a so-called democracy and its dictatorship ended. So.

People always, first of all, people say that North Koreans aren't allowed to leave their country. And the ones that are allowed to leave, they have to leave some of their family behind so their incentive is to come back. Is that true and why is that?

It's not true. It's actually enshrined in their constitution. I mean, maybe you don't believe the legitimacy of that, that they do have the right to go abroad for work and for other kinds of things. The worry. Yeah, sorry. Are they allowed to just freely leave or do they have to have a specific reason to leave the country?

Of course, they have to have a reason. And I think that's actually how it works in any country. Because when you think about it, if you want to leave by just leaving on your own two feet, you know, I don't really think there's going to be a great deal that's going to be in your way.

What actually happens when it comes to defectors and people leaving illegally or legally for that matter is it's always organized on a social level. It's always organized through what connections you have, who's actually transporting you across the border, who's actually taking you there, who's arranging the trip, and so on and so on. So if that is being arranged by the government, of course, the government, there has to be a valid reason for it. You can't go, for example, the worry is that you're going to go and

And leak intelligence to the enemy. Because this is still on Google. You search. It's in 2017. And it's, get this, they posted $860,000, the South Korean government, for anyone from the North, anyone from the DPRK to defect.

who will share important intelligence that will help the security of the South. So they're bribing people with a million dollars to cross to basically share intelligence secrets, state secrets that could endanger the security.

The DPRK. So this is their main worry. Their main worry is not really just people who decide that they want to fully cut themselves off from their families, from their village, from their communal upbringing and just go on their own and leave. That's not really the problem. The problem is that.

The border itself is heavily militarized in both directions. And, you know, there's always the possibility that if someone is leaving and you don't know why they're leaving and there's no reason that's being given and it's being done illegitimately, that it could be done for the purposes of undermining the security. So if I wanted to leave the United States and I wanted to go to Mexico or Europe or Antarctica, the government doesn't stop me.

You're right, but there's a crucial difference. The crucial difference is that we basically control the entire world. We're not under siege by everywhere in the world, and the whole world isn't at war with us, and our existence on the international scene is not some kind of scandal and something that has to be maintained.

I mean, imagine in 1776, we have our revolution. We overthrow the British, and yet we are constantly, not just in 1812, but constantly, every month, every year, constantly, there's so many plots, so many attempts to basically destroy Britain.

Our efforts to liberate ourselves from colonialism to the point where we have to start getting there has to be a permanent state of heightened vigilance on our part just to defend, you know, the ability to say, hey, we don't want the British troops to come and occupy our country. So.

I'm not I am far from saying that I think that the DPRK is a totally loose, lax society where there's no level of heightened or extraordinary extreme vigilance or anything like that. They are. But I think understanding their circumstances, it's understandable. They are literally under siege. And, you know.

We have not there. Not a day has gone by where we've just left left them alone. If we were willing to leave them alone, why do we have to sanction them to the point where they are cut off from the most basic food, medical, industrial and so on and so on supplies? Like if you do business in the DPRK and get caught, you are cut off from the entire U.S. led global financial system completely. And it's like.

I hope that with the rise of BRICS and with the rise of de-dollarization, things will change considerably. But they are in a very tough spot, and I really think that their ability to maintain what they have and maintain a functional society with a primary industrial base, provided primary standard of living for its people, I think that's very impressive given the circumstances.

So you wouldn't deny that North Korea is what we would consider a totalitarian regime, run in a totalitarian way, correct? I don't think there could ever be such a thing. You know, I mean, it's it's I find this strange narrative that we often tell about the so-called rogue states. On the one hand, these are completely omnipotent governments that have absolute total control over every aspect of everyone's lives.

And there's nothing limiting their power whatsoever. And on the other hand, they're grossly incompetent. They can't even function or get anything done. They have no technology. And they're basically a backwater, you know, completely incohesive, completely corrupt, basically shithole, you know, excuse my French.

I find this to be a contradictory narrative that we're told. And the truth is, is that North Korea, the DPRK, in line with how Asian culture just seems to be in general, is a highly collectivistic society.

So the totalitarianism, it's not quote unquote the level of, you know, how much the major decisions about life are happening at collective and communal levels. That's not from the top down of, you know, one guy or the government having total control. That's more like you're born in a village and that, you know, your village community at this at the most local possible of levels, your culture itself is reinforcing that.

a level of collectivism and social solidarity that it's just implicit for them. If there was such an extraordinary degree of force and direct coercion to basically meddle in people's lives in a way that they found to be unnatural and incompatible with their common sense, I mean, North Korea would have to be greatly more technologically advanced and greatly more kind of...

Powerful as a state than what we claim it is already right we say the opposite so I think a lot of that really just comes down to cultural differences and combined with obviously the circumstances I mentioned before and so how do you know that the North Korean people are actually happy because I'm I've always been told they're miserable.

Well, you have to start with where are the claims that they're miserable coming from. And you have to start with why is it that – Yeah, exactly. And then what I find intriguing is that there's defectors who were promised by human traffickers and basically people who for a living, they smuggled people through the border. This is what's interesting. This is very overlooked.

Look, a lot of the times they're duped to basically be brought over the border and they're told, oh, yeah, life in the South, it's perfect. You know, all your everything is abundant. It's total luxury. It's much better. There's all the problems that you face.

are gone and eliminated. Then they find themselves in the South, they find themselves in debt, they find themselves grossly alienated, totally with no kind of communal values, no extended family system, support system that's there that's so fundamental to them.

You know, a lot of pornography, a lot of kind of drugs, a lot of a huge American presence that they just they were raised to find distasteful, I guess. And then you find out that some of these defectors and you can look this up. I'm not making it up. Some of them genuinely say, yeah, I was tricked. You know, life was better in the north. We were happier in the north. And as a matter of fact, if I wasn't going to be punished for it, if I had returned, I would like to return. So some of these people actually want to return back to the north after getting a taste of

of what the South is. Sorry? Can they? Well, probably not. My best guess would be no, because if they crossed it illegally and if they're trying to re-enter, they would probably be suspected of being a spy or something. Doesn't sound great. Yeah, they'd probably have a hard time

But again, it needs to be highly emphasized. This is not just a difference of, you know, which societies would you prefer to live in? It's more of a question of sovereignty. You know, what right did the U.S. have to go into Korea and force

an occupation on them and force a dictatorship on them that they didn't want. During the time of the U.S. occupation in the South, over 60% of people wanted the U.S. to just immediately leave. There were so many major uprisings that were brutally repressed

That spontaneously happened because they wanted to overthrow that dictatorship in the U.S. presence. And for better or for worse, Kim Il-sung was the most popular man in Korea at the time in both the North and the South. And again, in the North, the Soviet troops packed up their things and left. They didn't need to be there. They weren't there occupying it or nothing. Wasn't China in some conflict with – I know they were with us with Korea, but did they have a conflict with Russia over Korea? No.

Yeah, actually, yeah. It's interesting you point out that because the Soviet Union wanted a completely non-confrontational stance in Korea. They did not want to beef with the U.S. about Korea. They really didn't want any kind of war to happen that they'd have to be dragged into. That would have been a nightmare for them in their minds. So that was also part of the reason why they were so willing to just pack their things up and leave.

The Chinese were not there, but at the outset of the war and the intense fighting, that's when the Chinese decided to come and back up Korea because they perceived, and I think they were correct about this, the overall ambitions in Asia, starting in Korea, ended in China as well. They wanted to use it as a launching pad to undermine China's sovereignty. So that's kind of why they made that decision. So...

It's still... I don't know if I'm booking my next vacation there. I'm going to be honest. So what about... I like to emphasize it. It's a country that views itself at war. And, you know, I don't really think... Yeah, I live with them too. I believe you. Look, the evil crap that the country I live in does, just based on the problems it actually created so it could do that...

It's pretty bad. So imagine you lived in a country run by one family and you're right. You have the United States of fear. I imagine it'd be a lot of abuses of my individual rights in that country. And I don't mean like not care about family because it turns out lots of people care about their family. I mean something that would make you desperate enough to go, oh, I can get 800. You know, it's so great to take a million dollars to get the hell out and sneak out. You shouldn't have coyotes to get out of your own country.

They're supposed to sneak you into a country.

You know, criminals has people at odds with society. They just can't adjust. They can't fit in. We have criminals here. There's criminals in the South. There's criminals everywhere in the world. If you're a criminal in the DPRK, you know, you're highly incentivized to cross the border instead of getting caught and sentenced for your crime. Three generations of your family. Is it not? Is that not true? Well, what's the source? We have to look at the primary sources. The great leader's book, Kim Il-sung.

The guy that defected, there's a great documentary about the guy that defected. Because a bunch of people have defected from America, you know, the mind control craze is

of the 50s or whatever after the Korean War, some troops defected to North Korea and they claimed that the United States was using bioweapons on these people. And so obviously they were under mind control and that's why they were saying these crazy things. So that's why we had all that Manchurian candidate stuff. I don't doubt any of the evil crap America did at all. I'm just saying...

If I'm a guy, I wouldn't want to have that as a justification. I really don't care about national sovereignty if I got to live somewhere miserable. I don't. And I don't want to have to sneak around to watch what I want and do what I want. You know? I've been in Asia. They all just do things secretly. I think your view is your own and that's perfectly understandable, but

But it's not a perspective on life that's shared with everyone in the world. And I think there's many Americans who probably disagree with that. Our slogan was what for 1776? It was liberty or death. It wasn't even liberty or, you know, we're going to go through some hardships and it's not going to be a cakewalk. It's liberty or death. So if you're willing to die to have sovereignty, to have your freedom as a country and not be under, you know, the occupation of

I think it's understandable that the Koreans in the North are willing to go through and endure a great deal of hardship, at least compared to what they would otherwise be dealing with.

to maintain their rights and their sovereignty. I was born and raised in the U.S. I was raised with the story of 1776 and the founding values of this country. So to me, that was very understandable from that angle. Where were you from? What state? Michigan. Oh, really? You were born in Michigan? Yeah. What city? Metro Detroit area. No kidding. Yeah. That is... I was...

You're allowed to leave Detroit. Well, yeah. Thank God for that, you know? And do you speak other languages? No. Really? You really are an American. I can kind of understand a little bit of Arabic, and I can speak a little bit of it, like very basic, hi, bye, that kind of stuff. But fluently, no.

Okay, and you and Jackson are doing a show, right? Yeah, actually, me and Jackson are doing a show in two days, actually, on Friday. It's going to be in Dearborn, and if you want to get tickets, it's going to be infrared.gg slash events. We still have some for that, but yeah, Jackson's actually- You're kidding. Tickets are still available for that event? Yeah, yeah. I'm shocked. Yeah, they are.

I'm honestly, I'm shocked because G Jackson is very popular. So are you? Yeah. Yeah. No, we have some, not too many, but there's some. Are you doing two shows or one? We're doing one. It's our first show. So we're doing one. Okay. Are you, there's like a, sorry. Are you videotaping it? Yeah. We'll probably videotape it. Not live stream it though. Okay. You should definitely videotape it. Three cameras. Is it, who else is on the show? You and you, Jackson, anybody else?

I don't know if you know them. They're the Midwestern Marx crowd that Eddie Liger from TikTok is

uh carlos noah danny shaw i don't know if you have i know danny shaw i've had him on yeah he's coming as well talk about his experiences yeah our show is actually speaking of 1776 our show is called free america to free palestine because our whole thing is like before we can free talk about freeing palestine we actually need to free this country from its own kind of occupation because the government doesn't represent the interests of the people no i

Not in America. This is a democracy. This is the biggest state in NATO. Yeah, I mean, I always like to say this. Actually, I came back from Russia and I went to customs, right?

And, um, obviously they take your phone, they take everything to it. I was kind of shocked though, because some lady was like, Hey, give me your phones and I'm going to go in the back and go through your phone. Don't worry. I'm not going to download anything. I said, wait, wait a minute. You're, you're just going to go back and look through my phones, like whatever you want, like even private stuff, whatever. She's like, yeah. You know? And I'm like, okay, can I say no? And she's like, no.

She takes my phone. She goes, but here's this brochure. And this brochure is going to tell you, you go on this website and these are all your rights. And then I'm like, oh, how nice. And then I was sitting down with the brochure and I thought to myself, I was like, you know, this is a country that's just as authoritarian as any other country. It's just as much government control and monitoring as any other country. But we have a great advantage. Our country is themed differently.

As a free democracy. It's like Disney Park. It's the theme. So they're going to take your phone and, you know, go look through all your stuff in the back. But while you're waiting for them, while they're doing that, you get a nice brochure to tell you about all the rights you have. Yeah, I said this to Mal. They're going to make us in North Korea. That's what a 15 minute city is.

You just stay where you are. You're not gonna go travel too far. They admire the shit out of North Korea. They're gonna make us that. - Well, that's the thing, right? So they make it-- - I don't, yeah. - They make it so, I've tried to explain to people, we live in a surveillance state. You have no rights, you have no privacy.

The government can throw you in jail, indefinite detention. All they have to do is say you're a terrorist. So anybody who actually stands up against the establishment, whether you're powerless like the yuhurus or the stop cop city protesters or you're powerful like Donald Trump and his MAGA political movement. So you can't step out of line. And look what they're doing to the most decorated journalist of my generation, which is Julian Assange.

And he's being tortured in a prison right now for telling the truth. And the reason why other journalists aren't being tortured in prisons is because they're not willing to tell the goddamn truth.

That's why. Because they all go along. You get a $35 million contract at MSNBC like Rachel Maddow for being a willing tool of the war machine, which is what she is. Same thing with Sean Hannity. Same thing with Anderson Cooper. Okay? And you get fired if you tell the truth about the war machine or the establishment, which is what happened to Tucker Carlson. Right? Again, so you get rewarded for lying. And so...

This idea that you live in a free country is just an idea. It's not real. America is the world's largest penal colony, right? We imprison more people than China in raw numbers.

So this idea that we live in a free country, you don't live in a free country, you don't even live in a democracy. We live in an oligarchy, right? And so it might seem on the surface a little better than North Korea, but you probably have just as few rights as they do there. I mean, I have no doubt that this is a way more luxurious country than probably most, overwhelmingly most of the world. I mean, to say nothing of North Korea, far more luxurious than...

But, you know, I think about the topic of happiness. And, you know, to me, it seems to make more sense that real happiness is when life makes sense to you. Real happiness is when you actually have, you know, a pattern and a way of life compatible with other people around you, a support system, social support system of families, villages and communities where you have a place and you have a belonging to some kind of, you know,

to some kind of context, to some kind of society in some way. You can contribute to the culture. You can be part of a culture. I think a huge source of the unhappiness we see in the West and in South Korea, which by the way, their suicide rates, including in Japan, it's pretty high. And some data I've seen, I don't know how they're getting it exactly, but it's way higher than the North. And I think a lot of that's because of the alienation. People are just cut off from any kind of

Any kind of, you know, immunity and any kind of way of life that's just compatible with their existence. They're constantly being pushed on edge, being completely stressed out, being, you know, overwhelmed with their dopamine receptors with all this kind of, you know, targeted mass media. I mean, you know, I think it's an important point. It's like.

In a totalitarian society, all you're thrown at is the regime propaganda to brainwash you. And I'm like, how much ads are thrown our way? Right. 100%. At every level of life, that's completely unavoidable. Well, those are just people in the free market giving you ads. And I'm like, really? Because I look up that company and who owns that company. It turns out it's probably like five conglomerates or something that own the whole damn thing. And I'm pretty sure those people are not just...

And they control the government. That's why we have ad blocks. Exactly. And those same people control the government. I mean, Bill Maher is on a book tour now and he's going in conservative media and he's finding out just how propagandized he is. He thought Hillary Clinton never denied the election. He thought that January 6th they killed cops.

He's got he thinks the board he has so many crazy ideas. And of course, he thinks the problem in Gaza started on October 7th. And he thinks the problem in Ukraine started with Putin's invasion of the Donbass. He doesn't know anything.

He's completely, he should be the poster child for American propaganda and how well it works. Because that's what this media tour is turning out to be for him. We don't want to poison his mind. See, I don't look at it as North Korea good. I look at it as we do that. I don't want to be, you know, Canada now.

They go back to things you said in the past. Canada is. They have the three generations rule now. The way I see it is a people should have the right as a people to decide their fate. You know, we shouldn't be going up to some other country saying, no, you can't have this. I agree. But I'm telling you, as soon as I, the thing where somebody's on lockdown. I don't think we should model America after COVID.

Korea or China or any other country. Do you understand what Korea is? It's a real big like dad. Christianity took off real big there because it's a real dad worship kind of place. So for example, South Korea, in the North you got the one family. South Korea, it's Samsung. I can't remember the other company. Yeah, they're all oligarchs. They're all major elite. It's like a mini version. It's actually kind of interesting.

But the Moonies, that right-wing church that the CIA posted up, they went in and pushed into Japan. That's why that president got shot. Oh.

Oh, but that guy that made a wooden gun like that movie and killed the president, ex-president, that was because his life, his mom, his parents, lives got ruined by Moonies. Oh, and anyway, there is a cultural thing to go into that. I just won. I got no praise for anybody giving me one. I'm being censored or what I can look at is censored.

you know, beyond obvious common sense things. I don't want information center because it's dangerous to the regime. We have that here. That's the thing we were criticizing North Korea about, wasn't it? Oh, security. I really don't give a God, I don't care about the security of the prison I'm in. I really don't. That's right. And if it looks bad for the leader and that could hurt us because we have a bigger enemy, America's doing the same excuses as,

Look, what you're saying makes a lot of sense for us as Americans, especially when we're being pitted up against a government that's actively trying to poison us and destroy us at every level. But also, it's a part of our American culture, right? We don't treat speech the way that Eastern societies do. For us, words and they don't have... See, this is something... I think it was some Czech-Slovak dissident that said this during the Cold War. He was like, look,

In our societies, there's more overt censorship. Like, there's things we're not allowed to say, but the reason for that is because the things we say actually have a direct impact on politics. Our words are treated as powerful. Our pen is treated as powerful. That's an a priori. People's voice matters. So that's why it has to be suppressed sometimes and whatever. But compare that to the West. That's why we need pens. We're allowed to say what we want, but it has no impact. Uh,

It may have a small impact on some levels, but it doesn't have a direct impact to the point where it's going to cause a crisis and a panic.

uh in the leadership directly well it has i watched it well we're it's it's it's increasingly becoming that way because i think americans are waking up yeah well now that people actually do have uh social media platforms to say things now you're seeing censorship happen because what they're saying actually does have an impact oh you're right you're right i mean but i'm saying he's he was talking about during the cold right i know

I got you. Bush era, right? Where people didn't give a damn. They're just watching MTV. So what we've said here and what we will continue to say is that communism and capitalism end up in the same place. And here we are ending up in the same place. No choice. You got two companies that make planes. One of them is horrible. So you don't have any choice. And we don't have any freedom of speech. You have it controlled by a handful of oligarchs.

and you got the government controlled by those same people. So we live in a surveillance state. It's very close. The Yakov Smirnoff routine from the 80s. That's right. We're living in the Yakovs, but we're told we have freedom. It's all lip service. They pay fealty to it, as Chris Hedges talked about. We're going to get a helmet department.

but we don't really live in it but haz i i i have to move on i i wish we could talk about this all day long um we'll we'll have to have you back on and we'll talk about maga communism and i appreciate you making yourself available everybody check out their live show thank you this friday in dearborn michigan and uh everybody check out your youtube show where you're not allowed to say things that you'd like to say we don't have freedom of speech on youtube that's for sure

I'm already banned from TikTok. But anyway. Thank you so much for having me. It was a pleasure. Okay. It's great to have you. Sorry to cut this conversation short. We'll have you back on and good luck this weekend, pal. Bye.

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Hey, come see us in Ashland, Virginia, Athens, Georgia, Rutherford, New Jersey at the Icarus Festival, and Minneapolis, Minnesota. Go to JimmyDore.com for a link for tickets. Phil Maher is, I guess, on a book tour. I guess he wrote a book. Oh, what is it? So I don't know even. But he keeps getting – he's going on right-wing media and –

And because he thinks he's going to be welcome because he's anti-woke and he's pro-Israel. But they keep bringing up stuff that he's, it just shows how much he's ingested. Like, I want to say, I don't personally, I might know some of his writers. Maybe I do, maybe I don't. I haven't looked at the list of them. I used to know some of them. I know some of them. But can I just say this to Bill Barr's writers? You're doing him no favors. Yes.

You're doing him no favors by keeping him a dumb fucking moron because that's what he is. And he goes and gets humiliated. He was humiliated on Greg Gutfeld. He's humiliated on Megyn Kelly. You want to watch? So I'm just saying, you're not doing your, if I was Bill Maher, I would be pissed off. Wouldn't he come back?

to some of his producers and his writers and go, hey, how come nobody told me that Hillary Clinton has been denying the election for the last four years? Hey, how come nobody told me that cops weren't actually killed on January 6th? Hey, how come nobody told me any of this stuff? How come nobody told me that the Ukraine war didn't start with Putin's invasion? How come nobody told me about the Nakba? How come nobody told me anything? You would think he would say that to his writers. Why would you

think that? Because he's getting embarrassed. He was going to go back to work during the strike with no writers. With no writers. So why? Oh, maybe that's why. So writers don't give a shit if he looks like a moron. That's it, right? Half of them think the same shit as him. But the other half can't. Well, you ever been in a writer's room? Do you understand how it works? No. You serve the master. No, I've never been in a writer's room. I've always wanted to have it. You've never been a joke butler, so you don't get it. Yeah. I served as a joke butler for many years, for many minor nobles. Okay. Yeah.

- Not me. Okay, so here he goes. - He's downstairs. I was upstairs downstairs. - Listen to this. - Hillary Clinton, of course, is the original election denier. I'm sure you voted for her in '16. - Well, she's not an election denier. - She absolutely was the OG election denier. - First of all, she came out before the sun had risen.

to concede the election to Trump. Okay, so first of all, when you say first of all, after that, you should have a legitimate point. But he doesn't. Or a second of all. Or even a second of all. So here, Bill Barr, though, has that special touch that he can make you agree with Megyn Kelly. Watch this. Here we go. The next four years saying he was illegitimate. He was an illegitimate president. She...

Okay, well, first of all, she didn't say he was an illegitimate. Yes, she did. Tell me exactly what she said. She said those exact words repeatedly. I believe he knows he's an illegitimate president. Okay. I mean, she conceded the election. Whether you're interpreting her disappointment at losing it as the same thing as Trump not conceding it, I don't know. That's where you're getting it from. But again, it's a tremendous false equivalency.

You could ask Hillary Clinton right now who won that election. She will tell you Donald Trump won. Now she knows she has to because of what she came out that night. She conceded the election suit and conceded the election. Correct. And then spent the next four years trying to convince us it was not legitimate. That's right.

So first of all, this just in, Bill Maher is a smug, warmongering whoremonger who literally knows nothing. In case you didn't know. That was Reagan Kelly's big story. I've played this clip on the show many times. I'll play it again. You can run the best campaign.

You can even become the nominee. I like how she says that. You could run the best campaign. I mean, I didn't, obviously. I lost to Donald Trump. How good is that? Here's what she says. You can run the best campaign. You can even become the nominee. And you can have the election stolen from you.

So, but of course, that's in the past, right? And if anyone does not want to look at the past these days, it's Bill Maher. Bill Maher's been on the wrong side of things so often, it's like he was driving in London. I'm calling him Bill. Come on, Kurt. It's like he was driving in London. I guess. I'm like Bill Maher. Kurt does not give it up if he doesn't like it. Bill Maher. I'm going to call him like Maher, M-U-H, Hoar.

So, I mean, Hillary thought that the candidate she directly orchestrated to run against her so she could win is illegitimate. You remember the Pied Piper strategy? That was Hillary Clinton literally picked Donald Trump to run against, and they got their wish, and she lost to them. They did the plot of the producers, basically. Yeah, they did. It was a laugh hit. Yes. It was a comedy hit, yeah. So let's listen to it again. You can run the best campaign...

You can even become the nominee and you can have the election stolen from you. You could have the election stolen from you by idiot voters. Yeah. Well, she said our democracy, not yours. Yeah. We have a republic. That's right. That means the democracy is at her level. You could fit all the love Hillary has for this country into a book and put it on the bargain shelf. Put it that way.

I mean, how about just humanity, her kids? I mean, where do you think these lizard rumors come from? These absolutely silly lizard rumors, they don't come out of nowhere. So here, you know, I think Matt Orfila put this together, I think. Here's 10, I'm only going to play a little bit of it. Here's 10 minutes of not only Hillary Clinton, but Democrats and news media completely denouncing and denying the election was legitimate. You can run the best campaign. You can even become the nominee.

And you can have the election stolen from you. How can you win with Russian interference though? That's what I'm scared about in 2020. But rightly. Because I think he's an illegitimate president that didn't really win. So how do you, you know, fight against that in 2020? You are absolutely right. He's an illegitimate president in my mind. Would you be my vice presidential candidate? Folks, look, I absolutely agree. Trump didn't actually win the election in 2016. He

He lost the election and he was put in the office because of a Russian's interference. Trump knows he's an illegitimate president. The president-elect, although legally elected, is not legitimate. I don't see this president-elect as a legitimate president. You said you believe that Russia's interference altered the outcome of the election. I do. We have a president who, if in fact it is proven, has been assisted by the Russians and may in fact not be a legitimate president. The one thing that Trump doesn't

is fearful of when it comes to his being president is that finally we will see how illegitimate his victory actually was. I have an objection. I object to the 15 votes from the state of North Carolina. I object because people are horrified. He's an illegitimate president. Do you believe Trump is a legitimate president? What I believe is that there's no question that the outcome of this election was affected by the Russian interference. There absolutely is a cloud of

illegitimacy. So that legitimacy is the question, yes. So that was a very tainted election. And in that sense, it's illegitimate. Why do you think the president is going to such great lengths to essentially prove that he beat you? Because he knows he didn't. He knows he's an illegitimate president. Stolen emails. Stolen drone. Stolen drone. Stolen election. Welcome to the world of unprecedented Trump. So do you believe President Trump is an illegitimate president?

Face of what I just said, which I can't retract. So not one Democrat, not one elected Democrat had integrity, not one. And Bill Maher lives in such a bubble. He didn't see any of this. He certainly doesn't watch this show because I played that over and over on this. Why would I watch this show? Please. Please.

And that's not really your thing. It's my thing. And by the way, so the worst thing in the world you can do is deny an election. That's the new thing because Trump denies that. Misunderstanding. They don't talk. So Bill Maher did the same thing Chelsea Clinton said on The View when they go, well, didn't didn't they all say this over and over again? And it's all about, no, she she conceded. By the way, she didn't concede right away. I thought she didn't come out. She was so upset.

before the sun came up, she said, and Trump didn't concede before the... Like, he asked his lawyers to check if he... He basically did what Al Gore did. Okay? Yeah. You're supposed to worry about the idiots that might do something. That's stochastic terrorism, not controlling the animals. And so now...

Everybody is memory holding when they all denied an election result. But that's not denying it because they don't matter. Who matters is the leaders that day. So it doesn't mean the same thing to him as it means to everybody else. But now they're saying just to do that is bad. And here's Keith Olbermann. He did it in 2004. Listen to what Keith Olbermann said about 2004.

There is a small but blood-curdling group of reports of voting irregularities and possible fraud, principally in Ohio and Florida. And that group of reports is moving from that end of the spectrum, in which believers are also likely to be wearing hats made out of Reynolds wrap, other end of the spectrum, in which the believers are going to the General Accounting Office and perhaps the FBI. Ohio has other problems tonight. The state reports 92,000 presidential votes did not count.

I think it's perfect. It looks great. A mainstream newspaper, the Cincinnati Inquirer, reports that officials in Warren County, Ohio, locked down their administration building last Tuesday night to prevent anybody from observing the vote count. 69% of voters registered Democrats, 24% Republicans, yet President Bush got 7,738 votes and Senator Kerry just 2,180. In Holmes County, a

A panhandle. Seven Democrats for every two Republicans in the district. Bush beat Kerry 6-4-1-0 to 1-8-1-0. In Florida counties where optical scanning of paper ballots was not used, no such violence swings were reported. Counties with heavy Democratic registration voted Democratic. Counties with heavy Republican registration voted Republican.

The six weeks since the election, somewhere around 20% of the nation's citizens have continued to doubt the election. And much of the other 80% have dismissed those doubts largely by saying, well, how come the Democrats aren't screaming about it? Or if there's a problem, where's the FBI? Or how come I haven't read about this in the New York Times? Our third story in the countdown today, the New York Times reported that the senior Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee was asking the FBI to investigate what he called inappropriate and likely illegal election tampering in Ohio.

That affidavit by Cheryl Eaton, a Democrat, contends that last Friday, in advance of the recount in Ohio, an employee of the company that made the Vogue counting software used in their county returned there and according to Conyers' letter to the FBI, he modified the computer tabulator, learned which precinct was planned to be the subject of the initial test recount, and made further alterations based on that information, and advised the election officials how to manipulate the machinery so that the preliminary hand recount matched the machine count.

So this isn't the first time that prominent Democrats, prominent people, people like Keith Olbermann, the guy with the biggest Trump term, has said that the elections are illegitimate. This isn't the first time that there's been credible evidence that there's some shenanigans happening with the election. But all of a sudden, again, just as soon as Trump did it, that's when it became the biggest crime in history. Just like when Trump's MAGA supporters went and protested at the Capitol. That's the worst thing that ever happened. Black Lives Matter. I saw Cornel West.

I saw Cornel West give a speech yesterday where he said, imagine if those were black people at the Capitol, what would have happened? Nothing. Because I don't know if you saw what happened to Black Lives Matter protesters. Black Lives Matter protesters, I don't think anybody got prosecuted. They weren't welcome inside, I believe. Right? They burned down police stations in Atlanta. Nothing, as far as I can tell, nothing happened to anybody. But

People who were just peacefully protesting on January 6th, they're being thrown in jail for 10 and 20 years. People who weren't even there are being thrown in jail for 10 and 20 years. So again, Bill Maher, Cornel West, they all live in the same bubble. It's an ivory tower. It's a millionaire's bubble. And they never get introduced to the facts.

So, Bill Barr, again, humiliating himself over and over. Boy, was Bill Burr on it when he said, who the hell are you? He goes, this is my lane. I know this. Bill Barr doesn't know shit about current events or politics. The servants handle that. He knows nothing. They read me the news. The servants read me the New York Times. People who think they...

People who think they know current events or politics or what's happening in the world because they read the New York Times or the Washington Post or they watch CNN, Fox or MSNBC are the most uninformed, propagandized, dumb motherfuckers in the world. Okay, you know why? Because they use

because they think it's real but they're reading in the video you played it they did it's hypnosis you say the thing three times it is an illegitimate president illegitimate president russian interference i hear it everywhere i hear it everywhere so so even back then in 2004 which was a stupid time to be alive okay yeah it even sounds less like pure neuro linguistic programming back then when it was also that but

But now they have turned the stupid meter on it where we're just going all hypnotic. So the illegitimate president, there's a cloud of illegitimacy. They all repeat the same. And the new one today is that there's no there's there's no equivalence between Hamas and Israel. That's it. They're all saying the same. I believe America is a force for good in the world. Yes. They all repeat slogans at you. Oh.

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