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China & Russia Join Forces To Build A “New World Order”!

2024/5/24
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Hey, come see us in Ashland, Virginia, Athens, Georgia, Rutherford, New Jersey at the Icarus Festival, and Minneapolis, Minnesota. Go to JimmyDore.com for a link for tickets. Hey, this is Jimmy. Who's this? Hello, this is the White House Communications Center. I'm online, ready to speak to Mr. Dore. Are you ready to take the call? Uh...

Yes. Okay, patching him through right now. Hey, Jimmy. Hi, Mr. President. What was all that? What was all what? Was that you pretending to be the operator?

No, no. That guy just sounds like me. A lot of people get confused, actually. It's sort of a funny situation. Come on, Mr. President. We know that was you. We have a state-of-the-art voice recognition technology here at the show. It registered President Biden.

Fine. My therapist told me I need to start putting some distance between me and people that I have a toxic relationship with. So I thought if I pretended I wasn't the one actually dialing you that I had someone else do that for me, it would, you know, do that. You're in therapy? Is that helping?

I mean, maybe. I don't know. You know, some days I feel better. I'm like, is this because of the therapy or do I just feel better? There's kind of no way to know, right? Honestly, I think that's sort of the idea. Right. Speaking of, I'm calling you with a confession. What?

A confession. What? For the first time in my life, I'm ashamed to be Irish. Oh, geez. And I don't even drink, so it can't be because of something that happened at 2 a.m. last night. Well, why are you ashamed? I think I know.

Jimmy, yesterday Ireland voted to recognize the independent Palestinian state. Yeah. I am disappointed beyond words. More than anyone, the Irish, given their history, should be on the side of an historically oppressed people. Yeah, they are. That's what they're doing. The Palestinians are the oppressed people in this situation. No, no, I mean the Israelis, the Jewish people. Yeah, they're the ones doing the oppressing of the Palestinians. Yeah.

Yeah, but not in the way I'm... I'm not doing that one. I'm doing the other one. I'm comparing Irish with the Jews. No, the Irish were invaded, colonized, and reduced to third-class citizens in their own land. They're more like the Palestinians than the Jews. Are you saying the Jews haven't been persecuted throughout history? Of course they have.

Well, then suck it. I win. My analogy has nuclear bombs. Yours doesn't. End of story. Oh, brother.

And it's not only that. Spain. Spain did it too. How dare they? How hypocritical, considering all the colonizing and cruel oppression they've done over the centuries. The blood spilled on the mines of Potosi. The theft of gold and silver. For them to take a stand against Israel is the utmost hypocrisy. Because Israel is also a colonizing state?

Exactly. Spain has no right... No, I mean, no, it's not. I'm just saying Spain is bad. Tapas. Fuck tapas. Hey, who wants to blow a small fortune and still be hungry? All right.

And what if we turn around and recognize an independent Catalonia or Basque land? Huh? How'd you like that? Wouldn't bother me, but if the Basque or Cotland civilians were being killed indiscriminately with bombs, I'd probably be very for it. Well, that can be arranged, asshole. Careful what you wish for. And finally, Norway. Yeah.

Norway voted to recognize Palestine. And honestly, we're having problems with this analogy. Yeah, I bet you are.

Yeah, we don't have a very big file on Norway. I don't really know a whole lot about what goes on there. So far, we just sort of have insults, but Israeli Twitter is way ahead of us on that one. Yeah. Oh, hey, why don't you go have pickled herring for breakfast, you snow monkeys? Yeah, that's a tough one.

Wailing?

Yeah, can you believe that shit? No. So we're thinking like, oh, you don't support Israel. I guess you also hate one of nature's most majestic creatures, the whale. For centuries, whales have been hunted and persecuted. The Jews of the sea. Come on. This is about supporting Palestine as much as Israel. Yeah, we're not going with that angle over here. Yeah, clearly not, huh?

Alright, look, me and the boys in the spin room have some more work to do. We have a long night ahead of us, turning tortured arguments into moral truisms. Better put on a pot of coffee, boys. We're going to keep statehood away from Palestine like Charlie Brown in that football.

By the way, I always thought that Lucy probably grew up to be a real hellcat, if you know what I mean. You can always tell. Okay. Thank you, Mr. President. Good to talk to you.

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He says China and Russia issued an extraordinary joint statement yesterday with almost 8000 words when translated into English. And in many ways, more important than the famous no limits partnership statement in February of 2022. And so then he went through it. And here's his assessment of what's important. He said there they say they're building a new world order.

So, again, this is all the stuff that they said was going to happen if Trump was president, that Trump was going to make the world turn against us and we're going to lose our influence in the world. And, well, that's exactly what's happening right now because of Joe Biden and the neocons. Joe Biden's a neocon, warmongering maniac, a tool of the billionaire class, Wall Street, the military industrial complex, etc.

they're pushing the world away and they're weaponizing the dollar. When you sanction someone else because the United States dollar is the reserve currency, you're weaponizing the dollar and you're encouraging people to stop using the United States dollar as their currency. So here we go. Building a new world order. The statement says that it is an objective factor that the status and strength of emerging major countries and regions in the global south

are continuously increasing and that the trend of world multipolarity is accelerating. So meaning that there's more, no longer is the United States the world's polar ruler. There's multipolarity. Multipolarity, that's it. So we're losing our influence in the world. We're losing...

This, in turn, accelerates the redistribution of development potential, resources, and opportunities in a direction favorable. So what China does is China goes into places like Africa and invests and builds them ports and builds them infrastructure. What the United States does is go in and builds military bases and then coups people. That's what we do. And don't think the rest of the world doesn't know that. They do. You know who doesn't know that? Americans. Kurt Mexican is here. Hey, Kurt.

This in turn accelerates the redistribution of development potential resources and opportunities in a direction favorable to emerging markets and developing countries, promoting the democratization of international relations and international fairness and justice. This is a joint statement today by Russia and China, just to get you. They point out that countries that adhere to hegemonism and power politics are contrary to this trend.

Countries that adhere to hegemonism and power power, that's the United States. Cartel. That's right. Are contrary to this trend, the trend of what the rest of the world is. The rest of the world is getting away from that.

attempting to replace and subvert the international order based on international law with a so-called rules-based order. We've talked about that. That's different. The United States always tries to say, we have to adhere to the rules-based order, and Russia's not following them, and Syria, and Libya, they're not following the rules-based order, Kurt. They're doing that so they don't have to say it's the law. They say, right. Because we're breaking the law.

Yeah, because we break... So it's another marketing to almost all. So they say the rules... So the United States says rules-based order, and I did a whole video on this. When they say rules-based order, they mean the order for you, not for us. When we want to invade another country, steal their natural resources, and give it to Western companies, we do it. And that's not... There's nothing wrong with that. Right now, we're occupying a third of Syria. Which third? The oil part.

but somehow that's that's all inside somehow that's rules-based order we overthrew libya turned it into a failed state with open slave markets that's all part of the rules made we invaded iraq killed a million people displaced even more that's all part of the rule we occupied afghanistan for 20 freaking so all that we bombed the shit out of some dropped more bombs than george bush in syria that's all part of the rules-based order apparently

What what Israel's doing in Gaza, that's part of the rules based on. So they just make that up. So when they say rules based order, they mean rules for you, not for the United States. OK. Security wise, the statement says that both sides believe that the fate of the peoples of all countries is interconnected and no country should seek its own security at the expense of other security.

Wouldn't it be something if the United States said this? Both sides express concern about the current international and regional security challenges and point out that in the current geopolitical context, it is necessary to explore the establishment of a sustainable security system in the Eurasian space based on principle of equal and indivisible security. Right now, it's based on security for the United States, NATO, and their bullies.

They go on to say that China and Russia will fully tap the potential of bilateral relations in order to promote the realization of an equal and orderly multipolar world and the democratization of international relations and gather strength to build a just and reasonable multipolar world. So the key word here is multipolar.

Meaning the United States is no longer the boss of the world. It's over. And it happened under Biden and the neocons, not under Trump.

As for the vision of this world order, these two principles seem to be the foundational ones. One, an order with no neocolonialism and hegemonism of any kind. All countries have the right to independently choose their development models and political, economic, and social systems based on their national conditions and people's will. They can oppose interferences in their internal affairs of sovereign countries, oppose unilateral sanctions.

and long-arm jurisdiction without international law basis or U.N. Security Council authorization and oppose drawing ideological lies. So what they're saying is countries get to do what they want, and the United States shouldn't be interfering, or any other country in people's internal affairs.

Both sides pointed out that neocolonialism and hegemonism are completely contrary to the trend of the times and called for equal dialogue, the development of partnerships, and the promotion of exchanges and mutual learning among civilizations. Wow.

Two, an order based on the U.N. charter. Both sides will continue to firmly defend the achievements of World War II and post-World War order established by the U.N. charter. That means like, you know, the Geneva Conventions, which the United States doesn't follow, nor does Israel or extremely strong condemnation of the United States. That's just what Russia and China just did.

Extremely strong condemnation of the United States. This condemnation starts with the paragraph highlighted above that countries that adhere to the hegemonism of power politics are contrary to the trend towards a multipolar world order. And the statement also condemns the fact that these countries, mostly United States, are attempting to replace and subvert the international order based on international law with so-called rules-based order. They also write that both sides call on relevant countries

countries and organizations to stop taking confrontational policies and interfering in the internal affairs of other countries, undermining the existing security architecture, creating small yards with high fences among countries, provoking regional tensions and advocating for camp confrontation like we did in Ukraine. Like we did it. We overthrew the government in Ukraine, democratically elected, which led to this work as we wanted it. Same thing we're doing in Syria. Same thing we're doing everywhere.

Yemen, Somalia, Iraq, Libya. So that's what this is aimed at. They further say that both sides oppose the hegemonic actions of the United States to change the balance of power in the Northeast Asia region by expanding its military presence and forming military blocks. So they're also talking about our meddling in Taiwan. Right. So that's part of China. Everybody agrees it's part of China.

It's the one China policy, and we're meddling in it. We're sending arms there. Anyway, the U.S., with its Cold War mentality and camp confrontation model, put small group security above regional security and stability, endangering the security of all countries in the region. They should stop such actions.

On top of that statement speaks of serious concern about the United States attempts to undermine strategic stability to maintain its absolute military superiority, including building a global missile defense system and deploying missile defense systems around the world and in space. They're talking about I've showed you that I should. I wish I had it. I don't have it today, but it's that video of all the blue dots on the globe and it spins and you see all the United States military bases.

There's over 800, probably 1,000, closer to 1,000 because a lot of them are secret. And the ability to disable the opponent's military actions with precision non-nuclear weapons and decapitation strikes, enhancing NATO's nuclear sharing arrangements in Europe and providing extended deterrence to specific allies.

Constructing infrastructure in the South Pacific Nuclear Free Zone Treaty member Australia that could be used to support U.S. and U.K. nuclear forces. Engaging in U.S.-U.K.-Australia nuclear submarine cooperation and implementing plans to deploy and provide land-based intermediate range and short-range missiles to allies in the Asia-Pacific and Europe. So they're saying the United States and the U.K. needs to stop warmongering.

They need to stop expanding and this nuclear warmonger. That's what they're saying. These people are out of their mind warmongering. Guess who's not doing that? China and Russia. Well, this is kind of a provocation to an active war. You have to admit. You have to admit. You have to admit. Telling me to stop means you provoked me.

This statement also condemns the United States' unconstructive and hostile dual containment policy towards China and Russia. The United States' actions of conducting joint exercises with its allies ostensibly aimed at China and Russia and taking steps to deploy land-based intermediate range missiles in the Asia-Pacific region have raised serious concerns for both sides. The United States claims it will continue these practices with the ultimate goal of establishing routine missile deployments worldwide.

Both sides strongly condemn these actions. Both sides, meaning China and Russia.

which are extremely destabilizing to the region. So we're the, again, I've been saying, I've been saying it on Tucker Carlson. I've been saying it at this show. I've been saying it on Joe Rogan. I've been saying it today. I said it on Neil Oliver's show. United States are the world's terrorists. We're the people running around destabilizing the world with military because that's how end-stage capitalism works. You have to enforce it with a gun so we can remain the capitalist hegemon everywhere. That's what this is about.

This isn't about safety or security. And it will strengthen coordination and cooperation to respond to the United States' unconstructive and hostile dual containment policy towards China and Russia. On Asia-Pacific specifically, they write that both sides, meaning Russia and China, oppose the creation of exclusive enclosed group structures in the Asia-Pacific region, especially military alliances targeting any third party.

Both sides point out that the U.S. Indo-Pacific strategy and NATO's attempt to take destructive actions in the Asia-Pacific region have negative impacts on the peace and stability of the whole region.

So again, we're the ones creating instability and increasing the likelihood of conflict, meaning war. They also demand that the United States refrain from engaging in any biological military activities that threaten the security of other countries and regions, and they oppose the use of outer space for armed... Well, how about if you're against biological military, maybe you don't let the Wuhan lab take money from Fauci.

To do gain of function. Fauci, the head of the bioweapons program in the United States. Maybe you guys don't also collaborate with the United States on doing that. Can't China take over a business when they want and maybe say, hey, we're not making these for you. Yeah, right.

So here we go. And oppose the use of outer space for armed confrontation and oppose the implementation of security policies and activities aimed at achieving military advantage and defining outer space as combat domain.

Lastly, the statement condemns the United States and its allies to turn actions in the military field, provoking confrontation with the Democratic People's Republic of Korea and exacerbating tensions on the Korean Peninsula, potentially leading to armed conflict. That's what we're doing.

And ask that the United States and NATO as the responsible parties for the 20-year invasion and occupation... Listen to this. Because we invaded and occupied Afghanistan for 20 years...

that we should not attempt to deploy military facilities in Afghanistan and its surrounding areas again, but should bear primary responsibility for Afghan's current economic and livelihood difficulties, bear the main cost of Afghanistan's reconstruction, and take all necessary measures to unfreeze Afghanistan's national assets. We should do that in Libya, Iraq, Syria,

I mean, if we're going to be moral. We gave them all our stuff. We gave them all our stuff. We talked some of that state-of-the-art equipment. No kidding that we left there. How much more? I bet they did. I bet they did. Enormous expansion of China-Russia. So now there's a great expansion of the collaboration between China and Russia in many different areas. The first one is military cooperation.

Both sides will further deepen military mutual trust and cooperation, expand the scale. So this is the thing that has been, by the way, this pushing together Russia with China has been warned against from everybody from Henry Kissinger to Noam Chomsky and everybody in between. And guess who did it?

Joe Biden and the neocons, the people you think are the good guys. Joe Biden's a decent human being. There's nothing decent about Joe Biden. Joe Biden is a tool of the military industrial complex, an enemy of workers. He's been that way and students. He's been that way his entire life.

What kind of scale of decent do you have? So now we're pushing China and Russia to work together militarily, which is bad. They're also coming together to work closer on trade. That's not bad. It's bad for the United States in a sense.

More trade, mutual investments, and help each other in economic development. They're going to continuously expand the scale of bilateral trade, continuously improve the level of investment cooperation between the two countries, and jointly develop advanced industries. So they're going to work together. They're not going to fight each other. They're going to work together. We'd rather fight everybody. We'd rather fight Russia. We'd rather fight China. We'd rather fight Syria, Afghanistan, Libya, Venezuela.

Cooperation on energy. So they're going to consolidate strategic cooperation in energy between China and Russia and achieve a high-level development, ensuring the economic and energy security of two countries. By the way, I'm going to talk about this in the next segment. You know where the United States gets all its uranium for our nuclear power? Russia. Yeah, Hillary. That's where we get it from. Didn't Hillary trade much stuff to Russia for uranium? Yes. Or she sold uranium? It's a little bit more complicated than that, but yes.

strive to ensure the stability and sustainability of the international energy market and maintain the stability and resilience of it. So what the United States has been upsetting the stability of the international energy market, how they blew up the Nord Stream pipeline, which gave cheap energy to Germany and Europe. Now they're paying three, four times the price for their energy than they were before. We're doing that and it's killing the European economy.

Also, nuclear energy. They're going to deepen cooperation in the field. So they're going to work together for all kinds of stuff. They're going to promote each other's currencies. So this is also undermining the U.S.-backed dollar, which is the reserve currency of the world. This is another step in getting rid of it.

They're going to increase the proportion of local currency and bilateral trade financing and other economic activities. They're going to improve the financial infrastructure of the two countries, smooth the settlement channels between the two countries, business entities strengthened regularly. So they're going to do all that stuff. So again, you have no idea what a big deal this is because this is a thing that's been warned against forever. And Joe Biden, and they all said Trump was going to be the guy to do this. And we're going to lose our influence in the world and lose our power. This is happening right now.

Under Joe Biden and the neocons. Because they can't stop war mongering. And this war on Russia has been a huge fail for the United States and Europe. Deep education and scientific cooperation. So they're going to... Cooperation in media and shaping public opinions. They're going to strengthen media exchanges between the two countries. They're going to promote mutual visits at various levels. Support pragmatic and professional dialogues. Actively carry out high quality content. So also...

Cooperation within global institutions. They're going to deepen bilateral cooperation at the UN General Assembly and at the Security Council where I spoke. They're going to supporting the role of the World Health Organization. I'm against that. I'm 100% against that. They're going to strengthen the cooperation within the WTO framework. I'm against that.

And the cooperation within the... I mean, I guess the WTO, the World Trade Organization, if used properly, I guess could be a good thing. But I'm not for the stuff that... Wait, did America lose the Olympics? You know how the Olympics happen every four years? Are we sure who has the best eugenics before the gods? Yeah, right. Did we lose that? Uh...

No, I don't think so. I think they're coming to Los Angeles. That's why they're remodeling the airport, right? Who's coming? The Olympics? The Olympics. No, no, I mean the Olympics of this shit that we lose. It feels like that. Yeah, we lost. Yeah.

And they're also going to uphold the BRICS spirit. What is BRICS? That's the New Money Center power. It's between Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, and lots of other countries now. And they're going to enhance the BRICS mechanisms, voice, and international affairs. So now America has this big opponent economically. Right.

Wait, I thought Russia messed up and China doesn't like them. And I've been watching Task and Purpose on my... Yeah, you're watching the wrong stuff. So, Arnard goes on. He says, I could go on and on. The scale of the cooperation they detail is absolutely breathtaking. Both countries are going all in with each other. The statement is absolutely extraordinary and will likely shape the world for decades to come. It's going to shape... Who is shaping the world? Not the United States anymore. It's Russia and China.

We now have Russia and China explicitly stating they're all in with each other to bring about a new equal and orderly multipolar world and the democratization of international relations and put an end to U.S. hegemonic

hegemonic behavior no more pretend it's happening so this idea that joe biden is a stabilizing force and all that stuff and now the world didn't like trump but it's all garbage it's all propaganda just like russiagate was propaganda just like covid and lockdowns were propaganda this is all propaganda that you're buying just like the syria gas attacks were propaganda just it's all propaganda um

So just like Obamacare was there to help you, it was there to help the big pharma and insurance companies. Wait, I thought we were weakening Russia. Just like, yeah. I thought we were weakening Russia. We're not. We're strengthening. Russia's stronger than ever. Great. And they're making new friends. So we'll definitely have a World War III. Is that what this is?

So we'll have World War III because the United States is going to push it. That's what United States... All we know how to do is set up military bases. Why? Because our government, Joe Biden's administration, is completely captured and working for the military industrial complex weapons manufacturers. That's what this is all about. This is corporate capture of your government. They don't work for you at all. ♪

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Hey, come see us in Ashland, Virginia, Athens, Georgia, Rutherford, New Jersey at the Icarus Festival and Minneapolis, Minnesota. Go to JimmyDore.com for a link for tickets. Okay, so remember, I don't know if you knew this, but Joe Biden challenged Donald Trump to a debate. You want to hear it? Donald Trump lost two debates to me in 2020. Since then, he hadn't shown up for debate. Now he's acting like he wants to debate me again. Well, make my day, pal. I'll even do it twice. So let's pick the dates, Donald. I hear you're free on Wednesdays.

So I don't know what that joke is. I hear you're free on Wednesdays. I don't know what that joke is. I think it's, I don't know what that means. But look at that, that demented husk of a war criminal. How much face work that guy's had.

Anyway, he's got a nice chin. So so this guy. So Donald Trump, Donald Trump responded. I'm for Crooked Joe Biden, the worst president in the history of the United States. And I to debate. We have to talk about what he's doing and where we're going. We owe it to our country. We owe it to all Americans. Anytime, anywhere, any place. I mean, how many takes do you think this took?

How many tapes do you think it took him to get through this? Donald Trump lost two debates to me in 2020. Since then, he hasn't shown up for debate. Now he's acting like he wants to debate me again. Why are there so many jump cuts? Because he can only get out one sentence at a time? Because that's what it seems like. Look at all the edits and jump cuts.

And he's reading it anyway. Oh, right. Donald Trump lost two debates to me in 2020. Since then, he hasn't shown up for debate. Now he's acting like he wants to debate me again. Well, make my day, pal. I'll even do it twice. So let's pick the dates, Donald. I hear you're free on Wednesdays. Demented husk of a cadaver. Let's remember when Joe Biden, when he actually just doesn't know when to read the teleprompter or not. Remember this? Imagine what we can do next. Four more years.

Four more years! He read pause. He read four more years, which is what the audience is supposed to say. And then he also read pause. Pause. He read pause off the teleprompter. What we can do next. Four more years. Four more years! Four more years!

And then he smiles like he's all proud of himself. Biden and Trump agreed to presidential debates hosted by ABC News and CNN. Get out your Ugg books in hell, everybody, because Joe and Biden are going to... It's a go. The debate is a go. I say this is...

I bet the debate is a go right up until the day when they're supposed to have the debate. And I bet Joe Biden's voice magically goes out. He's going to develop some kind of cough and do the debate from his respirator like a confused Darth Vader. That's what I think. Here's how the news covered it.

Former President Donald Trump agreed to two debates ahead of the election in November. The first one to be held on CNN, held at their studios in Atlanta on June 27th. That second debate will air right here on ABC on September 10th, held at ABC News studios here in New York City.

Now, what makes these debates different is that they are not organized by the bipartisan commission on presidential debates. The commission said a short while ago it is still planning on moving forward with its planned debates. None of the war. So that's that is the big news is that they're not using that corporation that runs the presidential debates. It used to be the League of Women Voters and they took it away from and they took it away from because they were asking to they were having actual debates.

And so then they're like, no, we're going to have a bipartisan that's owned by the donor class. So it's weird that they're not having it this time. The debates were scheduled hours after Biden on Wednesday challenged the former president to two debates. We proposed a debate in June and a debate in July, a debate in August and a debate in September. In addition to the vice presidential debate, who said that Chris LaCivita and Susie Wiles with the Trump campaign said that they said that in a memo.

Okay. Um...

Additional dates will allow voters to have maximum exposure to the records and future vision of each candidate. Biden announced Wednesday morning through his campaign that he is bucking the decades-old tradition of fall meetings organized by the Bipartisan Commission on Presidential Debates, which is run by the donor class, and instead called on Trump to join him for two televised presidential debates in June and September organized by news organizations.

The only reason Biden is bucking tradition is because he misheard it and thought he said fucking tradition. Biden invited Trump to debate. That's like Jake Paul inviting Mike Tyson to a boxing match. This is not a good idea. So Donald Trump lost two debates to me when we saw him say that. But Biden really thinks that. Does he really think that that's what happened?

Biden sent in a video message, his campaign poster. Now he's acting like he wants to debate me again. Well, make my day, pal. Make my day. More like, how about make my oatmeal? Is that what you mean? Remembering which door to go into to his house, that would make his day. Oh, yeah, yeah, I know, this door. This door over here. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

Trump, who skipped all four Republican National Committee sanctioned 2024 primary election debates and pulled out of one of his three debates with Biden in 2020, said in response that he was willing to debate Biden during the proposed debate dates, but said there should be more than two debates. I agree. I'm ready and willing to debate Crooked Joe. We showed you that he had to just tell me when and I'll be there. Let's get ready to rumble. They should do it on Rumble.

The Biden campaign outlined some conditions for the debate. Do you want to know what the conditions are? No hard questions. The campaign said that the first debate should be hosted by any broadcast organization that hosted a Republican primary debate in 2016 in which Donald Trump participated and a

a Democratic primary debate in 2020 in which President Biden participated. So neither campaign can assert that the sponsoring organization is obviously unacceptable. Hey, you know, I know I've been rough on Michael Rappaport lately, but...

I try to help out when someone is begging for something. I'm that kind of guy. And since he made that video with him spliced into hosting the Oscars, did you see that? Rappaport did that. I think he's actually perfect to host these debates. And I only say that because Ronald McDonald died. The Biden campaign said the debates have been structured like an entertainment. So this is...

Also, the moderator should be selected by the broadcast hosts from among their regular personnel. So to avoid the ringer or partisan, I say Michael Rappaport. They also said that these debates have been Biden said these debates have been structured like an entertainment spectacle and not a serious exchange of ideas that reflect the enormous stakes of the election. Yeah.

Yeah, okay. With that in mind, the campaign said the debate should not have an in-person audience. It should not have a... First of all, they want to have a serious exchange of ideas? Is that what they said in this over... Yeah. That has been structured like an entertainment spectacle and not a serious exchange of ideas. Really? What are you talking about? The candidates are Joe demented cadaver Biden and Donald Trump. You really think we're going to have a serious exchange of ideas?

If you wanted a serious exchange of ideas, I'd watch Hannah Gadsby's new Netflix special. Am I right? Come on. I think that's even the title of it. A Serious Exchange of Ideas. Don't quote me on that. But anyway, boy, Kurt's got it in for Hannah Gadsby. With that in mind, so they don't want any in-person... They don't want anybody...

With that in mind, we don't want an in-person audience full of raucous or disruptive partisans and donors who consume valuable debate time with noisy spectacles of approval or jeering. You mean the audience? Really? Okay. Well, I mean, of course they're going to be raucous or disruptive. Who doesn't have a political opinion?

Okay. As was the case with the original televised debates in 1960, a television studio with just the candidates and moderators is a better, more cost-effective way to... Oh, because they're always thinking about saving money. Is that what it's really...

focused solely on the interests of the voters. The Biden campaign said all debates should be just between Trump and Biden, meaning it would bar RFK Jr. Of course, they don't want him there. Neither one of them. Neither one of them want him there. Or any other independent. That would be only one. Cornel West would show up rocking like a... Like he missed his therapy. And...

And he would keep telling that Joe Biden's a better candidate. So anyway, addressing one of their cited issues with the commission on presidential debates, the campaign said there should be firm time limits for answers and alternate turns to speak so that the time is evenly divided and we have an exchange of views, not a spectacle of mutual interruption. And the candidate's microphone should only be on when it's their turn to speak. Why didn't they...

Shouldn't that be the way it is all the time? I don't understand why they leave everyone's microphone. That is crazy that they did that. I remember the last debate, they kept interrupting each other. If RFK was in the debate, they'd all just end up agreeing on Gaza. That would be, yeah. And then Trump and Biden would be like, hey, that was my angle. Oh. I just hope they have enough skin tightener for Biden for that.

One more facelift. He's going to have a goatee if you know what I'm talking about. Both the Trump and Biden campaigns has expressed concern with the organization, the Corporate Presidential Debate Commission. It's called the Commission on Presidential Debates run by the donor class.

They said that they scheduled debates don't conclude until well after early voting has already started. Well, why wouldn't you just tell the Commission on Presidential Debates to move up the

I don't understand what the angle is here. We've got to talk to the parliamentarian, Jim. I really don't understand what the angle is here because the Commission on Presidential Debates is really the corporation on presidential debates. They took it away from the League of Women Voters so they could control it completely. They could control it completely. And who do I mean by they? I mean the donor class. It's not corrupt enough? We need a more corrupt venue? I know, right? So they're not even...

So, so that's so there and the excuse they're giving is that, well, the Commission on Presidential Debates wanted to have the debates too late in the year and they want to. I'm like, well, why would you just tell them?

So this doesn't make something fishy. Earlier this month, the Commission on Presidential Debates pushed back, saying that, as it always does, the Commission on Presidential Debates considered multiple factors in selecting debate dates in order to make them accessible by the American public, including religious and federal holidays, early voting, and the dates on which individual states close their... Okay, all right, jack off. Yeah, so I felt we're going through the keys all up until the... Yeah. This isn't as serious. Yeah. So...

So, hey, the debate is on. Either Joe Biden is going to have a throat issue and he doesn't show up, or they're going to have that new AI version of Joe Biden show up, right? You know there's a clone somewhere. There's no way. Well, you know why? It'll be easy to spot because if it can talk. Like if it can talk without reading the cue card. If he can talk, even when he reads the cue card, he reads the wrong parts. Pods.

Now, what do you think is more of an insane matchup, the Jake Paul and Mike Tyson fight? That's what I'm saying. What is going on?

um they're and and or are they gonna do the audience from covid where it's like cardboard cutouts of people like it's conan on tbs i don't know what they're gonna do but they don't want an audience there no there's no audience yeah because you don't want any human yeah i mean what is whoever wins we lose and versus whoever wins we lose because i hate debates by the way they're just rose battles oh get tony hinchcliffe to mediate

Tony Hickscliff. Tony Hickscliff's on variety from that big sport. He killed it that big. Oh, boy. I remember when he was poisoned in Hollywood.

I wish I said something about Asians like Shane and Tony. My friend Shane and Tony said Asian stuff and now look at the top of the world. Remember when he said those Asian jokes? He lost all his representation and everything and Hollywood shunned him and now he's back doing a Netflix roast and now he's on the cover of Variety? Yeah, Pussies in Austin. When we did it, we were really upset that Toby Heathcliff was

brought on to variety because he's white and male. It says variety. That's not a variety. And, we did it instead of a rose battle. We did a bake off and we sit in each other's laps and we bake each other gently. And then, uh, Michael ran off my lap crying, but, uh,

So that thing that happened to him, the guy that did that, it was pretty scummy because it really looked like he just said something bad. Yeah, he looked out of nowhere. And some guy clipped a thing. That's right. And it was pretty vile what that guy did. Yeah. So, I mean, I'm happy that Tony gets work of that bullshit he went through. Yeah, he went through some bullshit and now he's on top. And now he's on top of this. Now he's... I'd like him to meet... Yeah. What do they call it when you're the guy that asks the questions? The moderator. Yeah. Tony Hinchcliffe moderates the debate.

Boy, he's certainly on top of things. Hey, come see us in Ashland, Virginia, Athens, Georgia, Rutherford, New Jersey at the Icarus Festival, and Minneapolis, Minnesota. Go to JimmyDore.com for a link for tickets. So I don't know if you remember when I had Cornel West on, and I implored him because I was shut out of the Cornel West campaign. Cornel West was always on my show whenever I wanted him. He would...

Returned my texts and my emails. Same thing with Jill Stein. They couldn't have been happier to come on my show and talk to me and text me and DM me. And then all of a sudden when Cornell announced he was running for president, that all ended. I haven't heard from Jill Stein since. I haven't heard from Cornell. You know, I had to twist his arm so hard to get him to come on the show. So when he came on the show, I knew this was my one chance to try to talk to him and convince him that he was having a horrible campaign.

And he does have a horrible campaign. And now everybody agrees. And because his message was Joe Biden is the lesser of two evil, which sounds like he was sounds like he's co-opted by the Democratic Party. That's what that's because he's when you say that Joe Biden is the lesser of two evil against Donald Trump, you are campaigning for Donald Trump. And that's what I tried to tell him. And the reason why I'm going to show you this is because he did a campaign stop. He did a rally, if that's what you want to call it, in Harlem.

And nobody showed up. Well, watch this. We agree on almost everything except the message of your campaign, right? That's the only thing. I would hope it would become even more folk. Let me just put it this way. But are you suggesting that the message should be that Biden is a greater fascist than Trump? No, no, I'm not saying that you should talk about fascism or any of that stuff. I think you should. Fascism is very real. I think fascism is real in the country. It's we're living in it.

We're living in fascism, but I'm talking about escalating in terms of intensity. It has since, since Biden became president, it certainly has escalated in intensity. So that's him trying to push the bullshit line that somehow Trump's a bigger fascist and fascism is going to come if Trump gets elected. And I had to explain to him, no, even though you didn't notice it because you live in an ivory tower for the last 45 fucking years and you don't have any connection to actual workers, Cornel West, that, uh,

we are living in fascism fast and workers got forced to take experimental medical treatments. Workers got fired, but by the tens and hundreds of thousands across this country, workers that you didn't have a shit to say about. So this is just a guy being completely out of touch ivory tower. And I was trying to impress upon him. This is a losing strategy. Your message is a loser and you see him pushing back like a moron. Dave,

They've censored everybody. They've crushed unions. They've tried. They've started another war. And now they're saber rattling with two nuclear powers. I don't know how I don't know how worse it could get. And by the way, he still hasn't let people out of prison. He still hasn't given student loan. He's still denying us health care. He doesn't. He's an enemy of the worker and a tool of military industrial complex in Wall Street. There's no bigger fascist in the country than Joe Biden. The reason why black around people are locked up again isn't because of Trump. It's

because of brother Biden. And Joe Biden is proud of that. He brags about that. He brags about the crime bill and he will never apologize for it. So I'm just letting you know that I really want your campaign to pick up traction. This is the opposite way to do it.

And it turns out I was right. Well, he didn't want his campaign to pick up traction. That's what that's the thing people don't realize. He didn't want his campaign to pick up traction. And well, here, I'll show you one more. Joe Biden is responsible for the mass incarceration, not Donald Trump. Who who is more responsible for black and brown people being locked up and America being the largest penal colony in the world? Is it Donald Trump or would it be Joe Biden? By the way, this conversation is a loser for your campaign.

sitting sitting here trying for him sitting there trying to argue that joe biden is a lesser evil than donald trump is a losing argument for his campaign that's what i was telling him and he was he was enjoying this and well watch what he says the argument it could be a loser for you too trying yeah it's not a loser for me my show's more popular i've added a hundred thousand new subscribers to my show since we did this interview not you okay

Trying to make the argument. You're trying to make the case that somehow the Democrats are more fascist than the Republicans. The fascism cuts across the board. That's not how you say it, though. You say it's only Donald Trump. You don't say it cuts across the board. No, no, no.

You call Joe Biden milquetoast and you call Donald Trump a fascist. So you're not saying Joe Biden is a fascist, really? I said there's fascist dimensions to the Biden project. You're absolutely right. It's like you're campaigning for Joe Biden almost when you're doing this. That's what it sounds like. That's ridiculous. I'm not saying you are doing that. I'm saying that's what it sounds like. What it sounds like to you. That's what it sounds like to you. And you got a right to be wrong. You got a right to be right. It sounds like to you.

But it doesn't sound like that to a whole host of others at all, no problem. Not at all. All right. Again, okay. It turns out it does sound like that because Russell Dabler went in Harlem. Harlem. He was doing a campaign rally. You could hardly call this a rally. This is more of a campaign coffee clutch without the coffee. And no one showed up. So Russell Dabler went to this yesterday. And here's how it started.

Here's how it started. Here's, there's, you want to see, where's, how's that crowd doing? Let's see that crowd. How's that crowd going? How's that crowd? Now... You'd pay some black people to show up. Couldn't you, right? And half of them are white. And let me just say, the last time I, last time I had a rally in New York City, I, a thousand people showed up to see me and I charged them. It wasn't free. This is free. He couldn't get a handful...

He couldn't get anybody to show up in Harlem. And that's what I tried to tell you. That's why he brought on Peter Dow. I knew he was infiltrated and he hated it that I outed him for working with an infiltrator. And his campaign wasn't really about running for president. This is the result.

Remember, he said, oh, you could be wrong, Jimmy Dore. I wasn't wrong. He said you could be right or wrong and some other thing. And he said nobody else hears it like I hear it. Apparently, everybody heard it like I heard it. When you're running a third party campaign and you tell everybody that the Democrat isn't as bad as the Republican, there's no point for you to run for president. And this is the result. Nobody showed up.

And that people were like, why were you so hard on Cornell? Because I this was a once in a lifetime opportunity for a third party candidate. And I agree with most of Cornell's policies. And he was shooting himself in the foot before he got out of bed and then shooting himself in the head and shooting himself in the dick and shooting himself everywhere else. And this is the result.

And he didn't want anything to do with me. Wouldn't talk to me for months. And so that's why I got, I smelled a rat and I knew there was something up with his campaign and he wasn't really running for president. And he's not really running for president. And I think everybody, even the morons over at the Intercept and Broken Points, even they admit it now. Cornel West isn't really running for president. Who asked you why you were hard on him in recent memory? Everybody. Everybody.

What? Everybody. Everybody. I thought everybody was like... Everybody was angry. Not everybody, but there was a lot of people who were upset with me. They thought I treated him roughly. I'm like, I knew this was the one chance I was going to get to talk to him, and I couldn't sit there and listen to his fucking bullshit. And so I tried to... I was literally trying to help him. And Cornel West, his presidential campaign has revealed every crack in his personality.

He he's got he can't be critiqued from the left. And if you do, he smears you as a racist. He called the guys at RBN that they're on the Jimmy Dore plantation, which is a talk about punching down and smearing young black activists. People are actually in the street doing something, not running around, running a fake campaign like him and living in ivory towers. So that's the result. This is the result of his stupid campaign on purpose.

This is the result of not taking advice from people like me or even listening to me. And then when I and when I gave him that that advice, he called me a trumper. And here's how we did it. And here's the end. By the way, he came by him, get his dumb speech. He didn't even he barely talked for 30 minutes. He's still running. I thought he quit. No, this was this was he just had a rally. This is still going on. This is two days ago at a rally in Harlem.

And so, and here's the end. Here's how it ended. You think there was a, you think a bigger crowd showed up? No, that's the crowd. Pan out, pan out. That's the crowd. I'm surprised they don't have masks on a lot of them. That's the crowd. It was air mask or the, or the lack thereof. That's it.

That's in fucking Harlem. And that's what I said. You know, the dirty secret about Cornel West is he doesn't appeal to black people. All his talk of white supremacy and his trans brothers and sisters and his LGBTQ. He leads with all that shit. And that is not how you organize workers. That is not how you organize workers. And he doesn't know the first fucking thing about it. And he didn't want to hear it. And when people critique them, he slandered us.

He slandered us. He slandered RBN. He slandered me. What are you going to do? Try to get him elected? The guy's trying to pay off his back child support. That's right. He's going to ruin his life. He owes child support. He's not going to jail. He's trying to get a sweet money. And he never had an answer for any of that. He never had an answer for how you become a half a million dollars in debt to the IRS. You didn't pay half a million dollars in taxes.

Anyway, and I don't care about his personal life with his child support, but he never had an answer for it either. And I'm not coming down. I'm not attacking the brother. I'm just telling the truth. I'm just telling the truth. And that's the result of Cornel West being an out of touch Ivy leaguer. And he's not running for president. And so what a scam he's pulling on those people that he's asking for donations from.

Because that's what that is. The Ivy League was never your friend. It was never. And there it is. So do you want to see the result again? By the way, he's only smoked for 30 minutes. He went to Harlem. I saw Bernie Sanders give a stump speech in 2016 in Santa Monica. You know how long he talked? He talked for at least an hour and 15 minutes. Almost three times as long as Cornell smoked in Harlem. And this is the result. This is the result.

That's the crowd. That's the crowd. That's it. Handful of people show up to hear him in Harlem. In Harlem. Yeah, that's not in Orange County. That's not in Wilmington, Delaware. That's in Harlem, New York City. So this crowd is like, they're going to vote for him and then go for Biden at the end. They're going to like...

I guess we got to go with Biden. That's what that crowd is. We don't like it, but we're going to end up going with Biden. Show it again. This was at the beginning of the rally. This is the beginning of the rally. My God. I've seen more excited Ukrainian troops going off to the front line. In Harlem. This is his rally in Harlem. Is he from Harlem?

I don't know where he's from, but I'm saying he's a black guy running for president doing a presidential rally campaign rally in Harlem. And that's his turnout. And now now do you understand why I was frustrated with them? Now do people get it? Because I knew that was my one chance to talk to him and I knew he was running a bullshit campaign.

And I was trying to knock him over the head to wake him up. And he still doesn't give a shit about the hundreds of thousands of workers, the 41% of black-owned businesses that were shuttered permanently during COVID. He still doesn't give a shit, never mentions it, never brings it up. And he can't stop saying, it turns my stomach to hear him talk about how he stands with workers. The time came for you to stand with workers, and you didn't. You do it when it's easy.

When it was hard, you turned your fucking head and you pretended you didn't see it. And shame on you for that. And this is the result of that. Imagine all the workers who would have been there had you stood up for them when they were being forced to take an experimental medical treatment with no long-term studies. Imagine that. Imagine if you stood with the people who were just injured by that. Imagine all the people who are injured by that. If you actually stood up for them, you won't say a fucking thing about it. Fascism came to America, Cornell.

It happened. It got implemented. 41% of black owned businesses shuttered permanently. Hundreds of thousands of workers fired. And you didn't say dick about it. And you're pretending that Trump is some and January 6th. He's like a propaganda machine now. He's the opposite of what he's supposed to be. Shame on you. Shame on you. Shame on you.

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