Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
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What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Okay, here we go. Mr. Proud.

- Oh my gosh. - Look at this outfit. I love it. Oh my God, so nice to meet you. - The devil is attacking me. - Oh my God, the devil? - Well, the second I get in my car, it's never happened in my life. It says engine cool and I'm like, what the fuck does that mean? So go to the gas station. I'm like, oh, buy engine cool and I put it in and it's like spraying out. I called BMW service. They're like, you need to tow it right now. - You're like, I gotta go to call her daddy. - No, fuck the car.

- Oh my God. Okay, do you, can you mic yourself up immediately? 'Cause we're getting into this. - This is very fancy. - Wait, isn't it cute? Spencer, it's the first time I'm using these. - I feel honored. - I'm honored because I knew you were someone that would know how to put it on and use it. - I mean, I usually let them do it. That's like the perks. - So I should have done it. Okay, we're going over here to make a drink. - Oh, you didn't even get good tequila. This is embarrassing.

I won't actually touch these bottles. Wait, are you serious? Oh, I can't be on camera with that low. Wait, what do you drink? I mean, bootleg enough would be like Colossal Azules, as low as we're going to go. This is all I had from like random. I'll watch. You're not getting me on camera. I mean, this was, I drank this in 2000. Wait, do I have anything else? Spencer, I tried. 1942, come on. Spotify, what is going on? Budget cuts.

I have a champagne bottle. Okay, so Spencer, right off the bat, is just shitting on me for not having good ticket. I also needed that car coolant. That was a lot. Okay, yeah, let's talk about what happened. All right, so I get in the car. I was going to be here very early. I was going to sit in the car, meditate, just visualize the best freaking podcast ever. And I get in the car, and it says engine coolant. I'm like...

I'm not a mechanic, but this seems bad. So I go to the car place real quick. I'm like, I need engine coolant. I'm very late to the biggest podcast in my life, statistically. And so he's like, oh my God, it's leaking everywhere. And I'm like, pour more in. So we pour more in. I called BMW. They're like, you need a tow in here, right? I'm like...

I'm not telling you like the car could shut down on you on the way there. I'm like well, then it's gonna shut down because I'm not missing this. Let's pop the Dom. Okay, do you want to pop the Dom? I mean, I'll drink that. Okay, let's do that. Let's do that. That's a better way to go about it. Okay, I feel like you should do the honors.

You know, here's the thing I've learned because Heidi's a professional champagne bottle opener. I used to like the excitement of... Right, like you want to spray it all over my camera. Yeah, and she's like, no, you're not even supposed to have barely a noise. It's not a game to guard that you come in like that.

you treat it like that because people are always, "Oh, you're gonna..." So the key, what I've been taught, is you just slowly... It's less exciting, but let's not waste this money.

I mean, picking off the Call Her Daddy podcast, beautiful. Cheers to the daddy gang. I am so honored to be involved with your mafia. I'm so honored you're here. They're going to love you. Spencer, you are popping off on TikTok. I need to know, what is your strategy? It was drinking, and then that's why I haven't been TikToking. Well, here's what happened. Here's what happened. I don't...

Know how it happened. So what people loved to so I had to stop his Heidi was like you play the hills in the house anymore like I'm not choking I see can't even is like nails on a chalkboard son I'm like, honey. These are going a viral thing This one just did a meal in like 10 minutes and she's like, I don't care like stop talking about that's my it's relevant to a niche micro audience, honey, so

That is fucking hilarious. It's a hard balance because I'm also blowing up all these people that I can't stand. Yeah, yeah. So it's like, do I, like, I'm like, oh, the views, but I'm like, nobody. I kind of love that Heidi's like, Spencer,

Knock it the fuck off and you're like can't hear you a million views gotta go. This is so delicious. I can't believe you don't have a charcuterie plate though for us. Okay, we're going upstairs to the interview. Are you ready? Should we bring this or no? Let's leave it. You need to drive home in your fucked up car. Oh no, I'm towing it. Oh here? You're towing it here? Oh you're towing it here? I wasn't supposed to get here. Is Heidi picking you up? I said I would. Uber. Black Uber. Censor. Censor.

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That was a little too much Holy Spirit. I almost fainted there. Oh, my God. Do you believe in God? Oh, yeah. Okay. But, I mean, Heidi, like, took it to the next level because she's, like, a preacher. Really? Like, I was trying to be in the Illuminati when I met Heidi. Yeah.

Were you really? Oh, 100%. I didn't realize they're like drinking blood and all the weird. I thought it was just like sex parties, like eyes wide shut. Oh, right. Everybody older than 18. Totally. You wanted to be a part of the sex parties. Not just the party, but like the Tom Cruise movie.

Like that looks, you know, pretty like minus like people disappearing. It looked like my vibe. Thank you for kicking us off. I feel really zen and calm. I almost just started crying. I don't know if it was tears of joy or laughter, but it was something. You got an emotion out of me. I mean, it hit me too. I don't know. It's good AC in here, but it was like I almost fainted. Okay. Spencer Pratt. Welcome to Call Her Daddy. I'm so honored. You grew up in California. Yeah.

Going to school with celebrities and celebrities kids who was the first famous person you remember meeting in your life Oh hands down Meryl Streep. I was on the set of Death becomes her I think is the title where she's like falling apart So shout out she would deny knowing me at this point, but I think her name was Mamie Gummer We were BFFs. We're very young we would go set and it was Meryl Streep and I would be chilling on set so

I did not expect the answer that's fucking baller. Oh, I mean, I went to Crossroads. The list, like, goes on. But that's, like, if my... That's, like, the main. The cool, like, just in this mansion and, you know. But, I mean, then it's next thing you know, I'm having a slumber party with Hillary Clinton, you know. So, I mean, like, my childhood... Wait, hold on. You have to clarify. You're having a slumber party with Hillary Clinton? What?

So my best friend, Charlie, his parents were best friends with the Clintons from Arkansas. And so when I was a kid, you know, I'd always sleep over at Charlie's house. But one night, you know, you know, I was pre-checked, you know, I knew this was going to happen. So Secret Service did their thing. I think I was a safe 14 year old or whatever. And so, yeah, I know slumber party. I was in the kitchen with Hillary. That was wild.

So you reference your high school and how you were surrounded by like a lot of famous people. What were you like in high school and what did the other kids think about you?

Well, I try to say that I am exactly, you know, I've learned a lot of lessons, but I would say I'm the exact same person that I've always been and I haven't changed. So, you know, I just as many people that didn't like me back then, you know, I had, you know, enemies putting up, you know, Dick strong on my face around town, you know, so I came in like hot, you know, so I think because I

you know for my private school world soccer was our big sport we didn't have football teams so

I was, for my world, really good at soccer, so I was on the older teams. Got it. So when I was 15, all the seniors, I was rolling with them. So everything got fast forward. Like when I watch, I don't watch Euphoria, but when I see Cliffs, I'm like, oh my God, this is the Disney channel compared to like LA and growing up. Now it's crazier because you just die of fentanyl and whatever. So it's definitely like darker now, so I pray for these kids. Yeah.

It was amazing. Everyone's always like oh, why don't you like write it like people that know me? You should write a memoir like like no way You wouldn't well right now I just found all these tapes and I was like, maybe I just cut together Like Heidi was calling it selling Spencer was because I really have just been trying to sell myself for all these years Not my soul though. That's the one thing I've stayed struts why I'm not rich and famous. I didn't cross that tier of

What would have crossing that tier looked like, though? Because I think to the world, it looks like you sold it. Oh, no, there's a whole nother Satanism level there. You know, I didn't unlock. Like, what would you do? I mean, what do they do?

Right. These people that you just, they're not up front with it, but there's a, we're talking spiritual level, not like, Oh, what'd you say on a show? Like these people are going. Okay. So it's interesting. Cause I feel like what you were saying about being in high school, like you were always kind of this like polarizing figure and they're going to be people that like me and then they're going to people that don't like me and that's okay. But when you were younger, did you ever get in trouble for your temper? Um,

Well, in one soccer game, you know, backstory. So in high school, you know, we went to GNCs. You get protein powders, you get energy drinks. So at the time there was this product called Rip Fuel. And I was like, that's every brand I want to be ripped and fuel. So, and they had a strawberry flavor one. So I was hitting Rip Fuel before games. You know, you just mix in your water. It's legal. It's like Gatorade for me or whatever.

I never drink Gatorade, though. It's not brought to you by Gatorade. I can't be promoing Gatorade. So yeah, I was all pumped up on Rip Fuel, and it was very competitive, and I was taking this very serious. And so this was the semifinals, and...

There was like a team little meeting the night before the game that this coach who no longer the coach for a reason. Okay. Shout out Fed, the new coach. So the seniors didn't go to this team meeting that was unnecessary the night before a game. So the next day...

biggest game of the senior year, semifinals, he benches all eight of the best players, the seniors, hands down the best players, including myself. We're now losing at half, like 2-0. I'm pacing the side of the thing. I'm like, we get it. And he wanted to make a point, like we don't need you. He thought they were going to do fine with whatever team

So finally at halftime we go back in, I go in, score two goals, tied up, so pumped up, score a third goal, now we're winning, he goes sub. He tries to pull me out. I'm like, I don't know if I flicked him off or whatever, I'm like, you know, I must have been being like, what's up? Like, you know, I'm in the crowd, this was back when people cared, you know, like living, you know, this was our Friday night lights. Right. It was probably on Friday too.

And so, you know, I went to the sideline and, you know, maybe got in the coach's face. My mom ran on the field. My mom, you know, this was crazy what he did. So my mom backed me up, but I didn't hit anybody. I didn't, there was no, it was just yelling. He's yelling back. Screaming.

So I get called in because they're maybe going to suspend me. And they're like, you were acting very pumped up. Like, were you on something? I'm like, yeah, Rip Fuel. And they're like, what's Rip Fuel? Can you bring this in? Like the principal office, Tom Nolan, Bob Riddle just retired. Bye bye, Bob.

So I bring in the Rit Fuel and they read the back of it and it had ephedrine in it, which is now illegal. And they decided it was like speed. So I would just dose up on, you know, Rit Fuel. So that got me not suspended or expelled or whatever. But other than that, like, no, I was tight with all the teachers. So you got to blame your behavior on Rit Fuel.

I mean, it was, it was a stimulant. Totally. It was anyone else taking it with you? The whole team. Yeah. But I mean, I was more pumped up. So who was your first famous friend? Like the, we kicked it with all the, like the first famous person we started kicking it with, uh,

was Paris Hilton. Peak, the most famous person on the planet. That was when I saw like firsthand, real deal, new modern tabloid fame. Because I mean, I had grown up with, you know, A-list celebrity parents and I saw that's more low key and it hadn't, this was peak Paris coming in the game, tabloid cover, energy, paparazzi. And I will always say, you know, I'm not close with her. I don't know her, you know,

but she was so consistently nice and like she didn't even need to like I'm my like entourage hanger on her like rando and still got treated with you know so I'll always say you know good for you that Paris Hilton era was the beginning of it all with paparazzi like do you think that sparked something in you of like damn

No, I was telling people at age 16, bringing in Us Weekly covers, telling folks, get ready. I'm going to be on the cover of Us Weekly. And people were like, what is this? My mom always had tablets. So I grew up with tablets around the house. And nobody appreciated them like I did. So I was, pre-Paris, I was already coming hot. Like, there was no doubt in my mind. You were going to be on those tabloids. Okay, but in your head, Spencer, what were you thinking you were going to be on the tabloids for? I had no idea, but I was like, I'm going to be famous. He's...

These famous people have it so figured out. I mean, because when you grow up seeing how famous people live, like,

you know, as a just eyes on like the reservation that's world's over, by the way, like people are like, oh, he's so thirsty. He still wants to be famous. Like fame isn't even cool anymore. Now I would love to have it, but it's still not, you know, nineties to early two thousands when these people live. I mean, they were taking helicopters, landing on just the rules have changed the game. So what I grew up thinking fame was is

It's so different. Like, I wouldn't grow up now and be like, oh, all due respect to TikTok. I love being viral on TikTok. But I don't think I'd be like, oh my God, I want to be a viral TikToker as like what I was chasing. If you would,

grown up in Ohio like do you think because of where you grew up and what you were around is why you wanted to be famous because you got to oh 100% like I think in Ohio one of these other states I would have ended up in like Delta Force and gone in the military or been a spy or something yeah that was my brand that's why I don't have tattoos because that was always like well if I am going to be Jason Bourne you can't have tattoos so you know like I was like deep logical

But the problem was I lived in the palisades. I was like, I'd get killed or like go to Nobu. I want to go to Nobu, not have to go and fight crime. So in a different state, that's the energy I have. Okay. I was looking this up and nowhere is this story. When and how did you meet Brody Jenner? Rewind to eighth grade, um,

I won't say her last name. Maybe she's anonymous. Heather was the girl on the eighth grade soccer team. And I was on the soccer bus because they had other guys and girls on the same soccer bus. Brody played no sports. So eighth grade, Heather was the hot, super hot superstar girl. And Brody was her boyfriend. And so I was like this dude. And Brody at this time thought he was, you know, it was pre Eminem, I think. But Brody was like a, a

a large M&M, like no pun intended. You know, he's a bigger guy. He loved to melt cheese. I later found out he just melted a cube of cheese and just like eat it with a spoon. So he was, he then got ripped and like changed. But this Brody was like a rapper, melted cheese. And I was like, how is this happening? So we had just...

Beef in the sense I was like, how is this your girlfriend? Like we have soccer practice together. We have way more in common. So I don't know what I said, but we got in like the only little shoving match in middle school. So that we had beef. But then years later, this girl that I was seeing.

Casey. I won't say her last name because I'm not trying to catch a case. She was dating me and somebody tells me that's Brody's girlfriend. I'm like, she's not Brody's girlfriend. So I bring it up to her and I'm like, do you have a boyfriend? And she's like, well, I didn't think we were exclusive to Carol. I was like, oh no, I don't care. It's all good. But it's like,

I reach out to Brody through mutual friends. I'm like, yo, you know, I know we're not cool or whatever, but we should meet at Don Antonio's and talk, you know, because I guess I had heard he like loved this girl and I was like, it's,

And so we meet up and I'm like, your girlfriend is not your girlfriend. He's like, and I'm like, I like, I didn't know. Like she told me, but I, when I found out, that's why I called you. And he's like, I'm going to call Mike. No, no, no, no, no. You know, this is pre all these team movies. We should have made a team. It was like, I think we,

play this out a little bit. So we started becoming best friends on like making plans with her. And then the other person would cancel, like he'd cancel. And then she called me and I'd be like, yeah, yeah. And then she may get those plans. And like, we did this for a while to the point where like, you know, maybe we crossed the line or whatever, you know, but it was like, you know, you want to play the game. We'll play the game. Yeah, let's play it. So we became best friends at, this is probably 18. How did you get cast on The Hills?

So now we're going back to, um, I'm now in college. I don't know how I see something about the Osbournes making $25 million for the, and I'd seen the show. I was like, Oh, this is entertaining. They got dogs pooping. Ozzy yells like, um, um,

And so I'm like, I'm going to make a reality show. So I call Brody and I'm like, we got to meet at P.F. Chang's when P.F. Chang's had just like P.F. Chang's was Mr. Chow's at this point. There wasn't Mr. Chow's like this was the hottest Chinese food spot you could go to. So we meet at P.F. Chang's. He brings Chucky, his like consigulary like advisor, Chucky to coup. And so.

So I'm like, I want to make a reality show about you. And he's like, oh, I don't know about that. And Chuckie's like, you should do it. As my advisor, I'm like, and he's like, here's the deal. If you come to my house tomorrow at 8 a.m. with the camera, start filming, I'll do it. And he's calling my bluff because I'm a sleeper in at this time. I'm not trying to be up all the way in Malibu, like Cross Creek.

So I had a camera cause I just tried to shoot a documentary in Brazil about like the, like I tried to make my own taken, you know, uh, like pre taken with like a kidnapping and I shot this full film that I was like, can you please release that? It's pretty hardcore. Cause it was like, I use real people and like,

Like people that see it are like, this is so inappropriate and intense. But like at that time, kidnapping was like the big thing. And I was already in Brazil and I, you know, I was like, I need to make a... So it looks, it's too real. You know, like it's like, whoa. Like it was like, oh, the...

We're tourists. The vans come and duct tape. It's crazy. If I had a good editor, I would have won Sundance because it was like no act. I went to the favelas, gave people cash, all real guns, got real cops. It was so awesome.

crazy because I want to be a filmmaker you know like like I didn't you know that was clout was like Michael Bay like totally you know so I was like I'm making yeah so I edit this I show Brody he's like bro don't you dare show anybody this like you will go to jail but I mean everyone's in on it you know like nothing bad is happening but it

Yeah, and Brody's like, people are going to be a little concerned this was your girlfriend at the time. It's like she wanted to be an actress. She was an actor. There's clearly evidence showing this was, you know, everyone was fine. But it was a little too real. It was as real as it gets. If I needed to kidnap someone in Brazil, I have the full kind of just...

So I had the camera, but good camera, GL2, Canon. And so I show up 8 a.m. I have this one tape. Like I rewatched this the other day. I show up, camera on him, in his nose, just trolling him, like pushing it in. He's like, oh. So I tell my parents I'm withdrawing from USC and I'm taking a leave of absence. They're like, what? I'm like, I'm making a reality show. They're like, oh my God. I'm like, don't worry, I can go back. I mean, at this point, they're like, I'm glad he's back from Brazil. Yeah.

Yeah, no. So I started just filming everything in the house, but his stepdad is a superstar mega, and in real life, he's literally telling me

Stop fucking filming me. Get the fuck out of my house. And, you know, at the time, Paris and Nicole were on Fox. So I was saying, this is Fox, Dave. You know, I didn't appreciate who he was. Brody said he makes elevator music. Like that was my. This is David Foster. Like, so that's my percent. And I'm like, oh. Like you make elevator music? Yeah. Fuck.

off yeah like that was the energy like Brody's like says you make elevator music so I had no like oh it's Dave I'm like in his face he's swearing at us you know he's like get the fuck out of my house and my head was like we have a bigger man

We have a bigger mansion. There's more dogs here. They're like 10 dogs shitting everywhere. And he was a superstar. And then we have Brody's mom, Linda Thompson, who at one time Elvis was trying to marry. Dated Elvis for five years. Linda's incredible TV legend. So she's playing all into it and letting us like, let the boys do the...

boy, you know? So, and I'm living the life too. I'm never stopping filming because they got the chef. I'm going in the fridge. I got a plate that says Dave, I'm eating his food all day from the chef. And we edit right there. Just like, you know, a few minutes on Sunday night, I get a call from this guy. I'm like,

And he's like, Spencer. I'm like, who's this? And he's like, it's Peter. I'm like, Peter who? And he's like, Peter Chernin. He's the chairman of News Corp that owns Fox. And he's like, you have a meeting tomorrow at 9 a.m. with Gail Berman. I'm like, cool. Who's Gail Berman? He's like, Spencer. She's the president of Fox Television. She knows the deal. Just go to the meeting. I'm like, okay. And he hangs up. I'm like, okay. So I called David Foster and I talked to him. I'm like, going to Fox. Fox, man. What's up?

You know, talk all this smack. This is where he murked me out because he didn't have like, now he's like, oh, this is real. So he didn't have faith in me. Like, I don't think he knew what level I had. I'd already got it done. Yeah. So he calls his boy, because David's Canadian. He calls his homie from Canada that like they had tried to do some projects together in the past. And he's like,

And he's like, you got to go to this meeting. So I pull up like out of a movie and I get to the Fox lot right there. Every time I drive by it now, I still like, God, what a memory that you just came and make up. And I pull up my Spencer Pratt for Gail Berman. And they're like, oh, sorry, somebody already used your drive on. I'm like, what does that mean? They're like, you're going to have to park on the street. And like, I'm like, wait, what? So now I'm like parking down Pico, like running, like,

And I'm in my like dumb purple shirt that, you know, that I thought was like a fancy shirt, you know, that I, I didn't have like, I didn't like have designer clothes or whatever. So I like the stupid purple shirt on somehow later in that day, Peter Chernin sees me, he's there and he's like, don't you ever wear that dumb ass shirt ever again. I'm like,

Oh, okay. So I go into the meeting and I get in the elevator and this guy in his full suit is smoking a cigar and we're going up in the elevator and he's a big old guy and he's like, you know, I'm like, who's this guy? And these other guys in suits inside, they're like walking with me and we're all walking. I'm like, no, they're all going in the same place as me. So Gail offers us in that meeting $3.7 million. I'm like, yeah, deal, deal.

Deal, fucking deal. And they're like, no, we're going to go see some, we're going to ABC. I'm like, who the fuck are these? Like, no, deal. And so they jacked me. And they, like, if I hadn't called David, I would have had so much more creative control. But I was 20. Right. And so...

Then I find out like, you know, I get a lawyer and they're like, yeah, they're saying you're not the executive producer. I'm like, I'm like, that sounds like I sounds like I am that. And they're like, yeah, they're saying you're not. So I call a future. I'm like, they're saying I'm not. And he's like, makes a call. And then now I'm executive producer. I was the youngest executive producer of a network television show to this day in history. And they try to fight that. And so then they make the show. And at this point on my first day of filming a Fox show,

Keep in mind, this is when Fox was peak Fox. We are getting launched with the reboot of Family Guy on Sunday nights before the Simpsons. Our sponsor is Coca-Cola, McDonald's that we're like getting ads and they're like, I am going to be a millionaire like in a month. I have my walkie talkie that says executive producer day one. I'm behind camera. They're filming and then everyone's like,

Spencer, you need to go in and like do what you're doing. Cause in it, everyone's always talking shit to me, like in the sizzle and everything. Cause I'm like the, like crutch, the, the bad, like the guy that lives in the guest house to energy, the Kato Kaelin vibe. Right. So I'm like,

Like, nah, I got my walkie talkie. Like, you'll get to keep your walkie talkie. I'm like, okay. So I didn't realize I like, it was like the matrix pill. Like I, that was when I sabotaged my entire life of being taken seriously. Crossing in front of that camera. I was like, oh yeah, I get my walkie talkie still. I got my title, but I didn't get, that was the end of like anyone ever being like respecting you in this business. But which is crazy to hear too for you, Spencer, because by you saying,

And they clearly were like, wait, we're filming this shit and we're not getting the same thing that Spencer came with his DVD because it was you. Brody was so comfortable with you being like, Spencer, get the fuck out of my face. And like David Foster's like Spencer, like everyone knew you. So they were giving you that content. They're not going to do it as easily in front of these like random like guys with cameras. So they needed you to get back in there. But that sucks that then your credit basically got taken as in terms of a producer. Yeah.

So I look still this whole time, not getting that nobody else was going to think this. What looked at myself as an on camera producer. I was just filming, doing the story bites, dah, dah, dah, dah. So that night, Linda has a talk with us our first night of filming. And she's like, I caught David cheating on me in the studio. And I'm like,

Well, so... You know, like, what are we doing here? And so we pretty much just beg her to just pause this. I now appreciate it more, but at the time, I was so deep in like, this is our...

Like, who cares? Like, let's roll. Like, let's launch. And so she gangstered up and was like, I'll do. And I didn't really understand what she meant. Like, I'll do the filming. But I didn't get. So then let's fast forward. The night the show premieres, she's like, I informed Fox that I'm filing for divorce tomorrow morning. And I'm like, what are you?

What do you know? You know, nowadays that ratings up. People love that dark thing. This is a family friendly Sunday. I get my third call from the chairman of Newscore. He's like, Spencer, what the F? We bought a family friendly show for Sunday nights. I'm pulling the plug after next week's episode is done. So we get the one, you know, rated well for the summer. We get one more.

and I just lost and I spent all my money that my first check on my BMW that now I like didn't have money for gas you know figuratively speaking like because I was like game on you know we're gonna be so rich damn that's wild that like day one of filming she like so that just set caught him cheating and you're like wait no we need one this house to film it everything two we need the family together and then the rest of the season they just like you try she tried to fake it

for you yeah she did she's a real good actor and damn so I get that call I'm like oh my god I have to go back to college you know like so now I'm back in college Brody Jenner had step siblings at the time when do you remember meeting Kim Kardashian for the first time and what was she like back then

All right, so I just shout out Esquire magazine for profiling me and the big, I thought this was going to be like positive, but since I said I should be Kim Kardashian, people like got all weirded out about that, but it's, I feel that, you know, so I'm just going to defend myself. So now we're at the first night of the princess of Malibu, our Fox show. I didn't even know he had stepsisters. I wasn't even aware. Maybe I met them that night.

like totally irrelevant week later, you know, this has been denied, but Brody's the witness. And I don't know if he'll, maybe he'll say it, but it's true. We get a call from Kris Jenner who I don't know. And he puts her on speaker and she's like, we should do what you're doing in Malibu with our family in the Valley with your dad, Brody. And, and, and,

he hangs up and i'm like the valley you know because like when i grew up like you did not this isn't me saying this is what i grew up knowing there was nobody filming anything in the valley except pornos you know like that was what the i had you know that's where they shot yeah people used to shit on the valley it was yeah now give me one of those 80 million dollar valley houses i guess it's still you need good ac i don't you know but so we laughed haha and i've thought about it a million times

Was that the call that like sabotaged my whole life that I didn't take? But then I really thought about it a million times. They went to then to Ryan Seacrest, who had a first look deal with E. They had to make a show per his contract. And they went to him and he had the power of not only E! News, Kiss FM was popping. He just got American Idol. Like that's a solid. I don't think if Brody and I had gone with cameras, shot the Kardashians.

It would have been with the Kardashians. Like, everything came perfect for what their magical portal happened. So I've thought about it a trillion times. But I met her for real, for real in the club. I remember Aria, you know, she was wearing like an Herve ledger, silver, purplish dress, you know, and she...

Kim looked like a superstar and was famous. She deserves day one jump. She was famous at this point, energetically. She knew who she was going to be. So she had that aura. And like, you know, I was joking with Kim and, you know, we were all having fun. She was totally cool. But that, I remember meeting her at the club and like,

you know, then she later filmed on the hills and organized Heidi's closet and they didn't use the footage and I once said this in an interview and Her publicist was like this is absolute lie da da da da and then MTV pulled out the clip think one time they ever backed me with receipts and like showed unedited Kim like every now and then somebody tags me in a tweet of her like tweeting at me like you be Heidi and Reggie need to go on a double date and I'm like

how was I so popping in my head that I'm not like following through with this double date? I did follow through when Miley Cyrus tweeted us and we went and double dated with her and that. So I wasn't too insane. But if I had done everything different and if I was like super...

Like for how thirsty I am, like what I should have done is been friends with everybody. That's what Kim is, was so good at. And I'm not that type of person. Like I don't want to go have fake lunches and fake drinks. And what if I played the game like a pro, I would have gone to drinks all the time with people that hated me and I hated them back. And we just all be fake. It's like,

That's the problem with being a real person, which is good for reality TV, but like not for networking and building these. Cause people will message me like, Oh, we should do this. And you can reach out to like your celebrity friend. Like my what friends? Like I got my friends from preschool and they don't even want me to name drop that. I know them, you know?

No, I appreciate that because I think that a lot of people don't know about the Princess of Malibu. Like if you're on TikTok, sorry, but people may not know about it. And I think that it was interesting when you look back at your history that you started this like...

little reality show following Brody around and Kim is just like there in a scene and you're like, whoa, like this was the beginning. And then I, I believe you that Chris called because it's like you guys were doing it before the Kardashian started it. No. And, uh,

At the time, Bruce, not, wasn't Caitlyn. So at the time, Bruce was filming for Princess. So Chris, they didn't use any of the footage, but like he would come film and he'd be on it. So he's going back home and tell like, this is crazy, da, da, da, da. And, you know, at the same time, the Simple Life's popping. So Kim's knowing about reality TV through,

through Paris. And that's when reality TV really started to pop off was like slowly, like the simple life. And then obviously though, the biggest, I think was when the Hills popped off. And that was when it was like,

holy shit, this is reality TV. And, because that's how I got to the hills. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is going to be a two-part Call Her Daddy podcast. Spencer's trying to milk this shit. Come on, come on. We're going to get merch. Get your merch. Callherdaddy.com. No, stop.

So wait. So yeah. Go back to college. So go back to college. And then one day I'm back from class, whatever. And my mom's best friend, Lucy, they're in there watching this show. And my mom's friend is like, you should date this girl. She's so cute. I'm like, what is this? And they're watching it. She's like, date this girl. She's so cute. And it's Heidi. I'm like, what is this show? Like, how is this even a show? This is season one. I'm like, this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my life. Right. And I'm like, this on TV? Like, yeah, it's so cute. And

And I see one of the names of the executive producers was a guy that Brody and I literally hired. Like we had a meeting, we hired him. So I have his cell phone number. I call him, I'm like, Motherfucker, you have a new show and you didn't put Brody in it? He's like, Spencer, no. It's a set cast of this girl from Laguna Beach. Like, it's not like that. I'm like, oh no, it's like that. We'll see you in the club. Like, I don't think so. That's our show. You got like Hollywood. Like in this one, Brody was like,

running the clubs and like, so all due respect, no girl from Laguna Beach is doing a Hollywood show. I'm like, they have a Hollywood show and you're so... You're not including us. Like, yeah. So we're out. It's, this club was called Privilege. Justin Timberlake was just popping with Sexy Can I, I think. I remember it just like...

hitting so hard in the in the freaking club and so this is when I was very into dancing you know this was people dance back then people weren't too cool to dance we wanted to stand around like it was like yeah dancing time so I was dancing and then Kristen was at the bar with Heidi and Heidi just in season one I didn't know what even that meant nobody Hills was not popping so Heidi and I clear the dance floor we're having a great time dancing hit it off

We all drive back to Brody's house in Malibu. So she ends up spending the night. She says it's love at first sight. I guess now in retrospect it was. But I had player, ego, clout, fame, vibe. So I was like, and then she tells me, no, we're seeing each other. But she is seeing, she's not exclusive either to me.

When I met Heidi, she was writing a book, had chapters, how to outplay the player. She had game galore. She was not this like innocent victim, like, oh my God, Spencer's talking to those playmates. Like she was talking to old dude over here and old dude here. Like she had two, like she had an A-list athlete and an A-list actor she was dating when I was supposedly looking like the bad guy. So if they'd showed real Heidi and not this like boo,

bootleg you know just making girls look like this like like that was where you got to see like like an awesome girl that I would fall in love with who like show a girl a game that totally like yeah like this is why I liked her she's like she was no victim I wasn't playing her it was like battle we were at like a master chess dating and so that's tell us who she was dating

Yeah, she was dating Chase Crawford who was like the it, like hot guy, you know, peak, you know. Gossip girl. Yeah, like couldn't be cooler. So she wasn't like, oh, poor Spencer. Right. There was not that energy. I love hearing you say that though because I always felt that

vibe from Heidi but they always cast her as this damsel in distress like Jordan's being mean to me and then she meets you and it's like Spencer's being mean to me I'm like that's not the vibe I get from Heidi so the problem with Heidi and I we love making TV shows and doing what the producers are saying here's the problem with the Hills is

all male producers east coast waspy freaking dudes that they're now in charge of representing young women in hollywood and they're putting their toxic male weird narrative spins that they that's not facts and it's not real life because i don't even think any of these guys date you know like they don't know maybe they saw it in a movie like they can't fathom a woman like

spitting game on a guy and like change your number like fuck you way better show too it's like real Heidi was I always say this people to this day like oh how are you still it's like because you don't know real Heidi like you guys are all like it's like keeping you on your toes yeah like I'm they're not showing me begging her to be boyfriend girlfriend you know like she's like

I don't want that title. Like, you know, like she was more. Yeah. So yeah, she had games. She was a gangster. So now knowing that's actually a really great story that it goes all the way back to your mom looking at the TV and being like, Oh, you should date this girl. And then you guys actually meet and you immediately have a vibe. What was your first impression of Lauren Conrad when you met her?

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What was your first impression of Lauren Conrad when you met her? So let's do a disclaimer here for, you know, Elsie Stans.

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Nice girl. It was all good to the point where I talked Brody in to breaking up with Nicole Richie to fake double date with LC. So that's the level of how I felt about it. Let me help make your life better by bringing the best looking guy in Hollywood right now who all the girls want to date. I'll get him to break up with his celebrity superstar girlfriend. I will get him to come onto your show, pretend to be your...

you know, interest to just everyone wins, you know? So like I was, I'm a teammate. I come from being on a team sport. I didn't play tennis. I didn't play golf. Like the team wins. That's how I've always thought. So I was like, let's all win. We'll double gate. And I was already in the, you know, game from like working with the paparazzi for princes of Malibu and setting up our shoots. And so like, I was like, you know, our first double date,

I had us coming out of the Grove, you know, all due respect to Elsie. She'd never been in a tabloid until I unlocked that for her and gave her the, you know, as a teammate, not, you know, I'm not, I don't want credit. I, I wanted us all to win. So I had our paparazzi, this is pre the entire world now does this. This was, this was vintage genius, uh, where you work with them instead of like hiding from them. Cause this one tabloids sold like albums, like you could Drake,

you know one week three million sales on us week like this was superpowers that I knew understood and I just watched a season two episode Elsie knew because if you look at her on the couch she has every tabloid in her lap that's what she's reading so don't be mad at me girl so we come out of our double date

And I'm like, make sure you guys look to the left. You know, this is off camera. Just I'm really trying to like get us all to hang out on friends because now Heidi and I are seeing each other, not boyfriend, girlfriend. And she's like,

What am I? It's our camera shake you call the paparazzi Mike. Yeah to get you in a Mac So that was I was like, oh you're not all there You know like don't have a full deck running here as you're trying to be on your second television show Like it's not like I'm all for people who don't want to be famous But like you're on a second show like you spun off like I get like it fell into your lap in high school And it came to you and you auditioned but now you've spun off

You've, you are choosing the path of fame. So now I'm like, so she from the jump kind of was weirded out. Like, Oh, Spencer's like, that's why she'll say things like, I don't trust him. It's like, you didn't understand. Like I was ahead of this game. Like I already saw how this worked on a way bigger scale. Cause I'm not from Laguna beach, you know, like,

I'm from here and watching Paris, watching how Nicole, like Nicole's an actual, you know, we ended up having a falling out or whatever. Miss, I was misquoted, I think. Well, you can, uh, but she's a genius. So like, she's a fame genius. So I studied under, you know, I'll call her a mentor in the, in the fame game. So I,

She just, oh, she's, she knows the game. That's why Paris called her smartest friend to be her teammate. She didn't call Kim. You know, like, hey, you want to, you know. But so back to like, you know, everything, we were best friends. She's like, you want to meet my dad? But eventually the Brody couldn't play pretend anymore. I wasn't saying fake date LC. That wasn't the initiative. Like I was like, this would be great. Like Heidi's cool. They're roommates. Like I was hoping it worked out.

It didn't work out from night one. You know, like, so once she was onto that, she wanted her amazing wingman, which I under wing woman, totally get Heidi to not be with me. So her selfish motivations, she can put it on all these reasons of like, Oh, I don't trust him or look at, she knew Heidi. Like she knew Heidi's game. She knew about this. And, and,

We know her. These girls were not victims, okay? They had their own television show. They were right in the heart of Hollywood. They're going out every night, getting tables. These aren't these pilgrims that were like, oh, these poor little innocent, you know. Yeah, these girls are savvy. And I didn't get raised on being on television when I was 16, 17. Like, you're a veteran at this point. Like, yeah, I understood the background

side of like tabloids and media but when it came to making a tv show and like murking out people and like yeah you know what comments say this like this is a black belt level yeah with regard to your relationship with heidi how did you guys separate reality from reality tv to keep your relationship healthy thank god the show was so fake that it was you know every time now and then

Heidi would get a little too drunk. One time in an area, she knew. I told her, we're going to call these playmates. I'm going to bring these girls. And she knew. And she's like, I'll meet you there. And then drunk, Heidi's like, asshole. And she really got all up in her feelings. Because she's like, I don't even want this. But that's the problem when you play reality. There's times where it affects you in real life. So thankfully, it was so fake that all the fighting and everything was so...

like planned and rehearsed and scripted that it didn't. And then the other thing is we lived in my parents' house in the Palisades, like in my high school room. Like, so we leave Hollywood and just go have our simple, you know, life in the, you know, we weren't up in the scene, like it looks so like we never lived in that apartment that we filmed in or that house we filmed in. So I imagine it would have been harder to,

if we were immersed in that world and these were our real friends and our real relationship, but you guys really took a turn to be like the most hated couple in the world. And Heidi got all the surgery. Did you ever try to convince Heidi not to get surgery? No,

No, one thing I never try to do with ever with Heidi and what people are saying is like Heidi's the boss like I work for Heidi to this day like that's this whole like I You know, that's the people who really know the inner workings of our relationship like I

like, excuse me, my French, like I'm the pussy whip. Like, you know, like, it's not like, Oh Heidi, I think you should do this. Like Heidi came from a little town in Crested Butte with dreams of being a star. Like she, like, so no, I never told Heidi what to do. Cause I've just, I'm a,

I was just filming her. She's like, put the camera on me, cameraman. Like, you know, if you watch the footage, like I'm just her cameraman. I said to her yesterday, I'm like, I'm literally your cameraman. So yeah. Also let's rewind to surgery. Cause it's in tears.

First time she even got the idea of getting surgery was Us Weekly approached her and was like, hey, we have this top plastic surgeon. It wasn't even in her head, you know, that wants to do, you know, we'll give you a nose job and implants. And Heidi's like, and they're like, this would cost $50,000, whatever. And Heidi's a hustler. And she's like, $50,000 for free? And Us Weekly's coming to me? I'm not going to say his name. Ken came to her. And so, you know, you know.

And she'd grown up getting made fun of about her nose her whole life. You look, this was early day comment section. Every single comment, I'm always like, don't read that. It's just saying she has a Jay Leno chin. And so she's now in her head of all these things that's early, you know, comment section. So then she has this meeting with this Todd.

Rest in peace, Dr. Frank Ryan. He's dead. But she has a meeting with him, and he's showing her all the A-list superstars, all the things he's done, but top secret. They're not telling anyone. She's realizing this is the game. So she does the nose job, boobs. It's not the end of the world. She didn't have to tell the truth also. This time, I'm not going to say other big things,

pop people were literally without a doubt got nose jobs got it like that was standard operating procedure but Heidi is just honest like I'm gonna tell people this is what I did which you know I'm like I don't care whatever like keep in mind I've already dated Heidi for so long in love already felt like this isn't like oh this is what you need to do now for us to be like we're already battling the world like this isn't gonna change our relationships I'm like I don't

Win-win. I don't care either way. Whatever. Do what you want to do to your body. I'm scared. I can't even get shots. So it's way past my world of knives and, you know.

So all good the follow-up the one that people all freaked out on I'll never forget I even have it on video as she's going in cuz she when she was doing her Miss Universe She got elbowed by one of the backup dancers and they hit her nose And so she like like it's like dead in there gonna like pop it out, whatever So she goes to have like that done that morning. He's like hmm while you're under and

we, you know, we could just little, and I hear the word minor so many times. It's like, it's so early in the morning when you drop these people off for surgery. It's like, I'm not even thinking, I hear minor started. It's like, I don't, I hear she's already got lip injections. That's the minor, like, Oh, minor. And you hear the word injectable and this is everything's minor. And he just had this blue pen and he's just like, Mike, there's a lot of blue. Neither of us are thinking like, Oh my God. He's like, this is minor is the word we heard a million times cut to like,

the most traumatic so no it was not like a positive time that's also just so crazy to hear you talk about it too because of like how manipulative and really scary like when you're young you don't understand and these doctors should do a better job of explaining like the fact that they said minor to you and you're like it was in the morning also the fact that you're like it was the day of and they're like we can just do this like we'll scoop out your back we'll pin back your ears we'll

And he's saying the price of each thing. And back to Heidi, who's like a banker, he's like, this is $25,000. I mean, it was like a quarter million dollars when he like, he's like, and I'll cross all this was like out of like a movie where you're like shopping for clothes and they add it all up and he's like, void, zero dollars. So it's like in her head, Miss Business. It's like a business. Like, oh my God. It's like a bargain. He's giving me a quarter million to like make, and this is what, I'm not going to name stars, but this is what all they do, but they spread it out.

Like everything she did is like standard A-list. Totally. I'm not naming the women, but it's obvious. This is standard A-list women. But once a year, you know, you don't knock it all out. Right. You don't drop it off at the body shop. What do you miss about being one of the most famous couples in the world at the time? Oh, just the money.

Yeah, like I would if you asked me to never be famous or just be rich I would I thought being famous was the easy way to get rich like if I put the amount of energy as I put into being Famous as just like doing like a normal rich person job like a banker like I would be rich so Yeah, like how the e like getting just paid by Coca-Cola to hold a co-killer. He's $10,000 like like what

Yeah. You know, so like that level of like, and then people are like, why do you want to be famous? Like, cause that it's so hard, but it's so easy when you're like in the, when you're getting the checks. Like at one time we were making a million dollars a year selling our paparazzi photos, like going and looking cheesy, you know, like dressing up in dumb little like Easter bunny. Like it. So that part is hands down. That makes sense. So people,

hated you more than people who murdered people. You were more hated than OJ Simpson at one point. And Casey Anthony. Yep. How did that make you feel at the time? Well,

Well, at the time it was a victory because David Foster had put me into the game by he knew Simon Cowell. I didn't watch American Idol. And he was like, Spence, once the Fox started going, he's like, you need to be the young Simon Cowell. I was like, who? Like, he's like the, like the hated guy, the villain, the like, you know, I was like, gotcha. Like, sounds easy, coach. Put me in. So I didn't,

there was no social media. I was so naive to think, and I thought everybody knew Hollywood was just lights, camera action, fake as could be. I didn't understand middle America. This was Bible, you know, like this was, you know, the Holy spirit over here. And I'm over here just trying to get ratings bonuses. Like if we ever got to 5 million, I got a million dollar check just that day. So no matter what I'm reading, I'm over here like chasing a

million dollar one like we're like at 4.2 for them like oh what could i do to get to that million dollars to do what i'm already doing that night so my mindset at that point at one time i had like hate spencerpratt.com where like you could go and like comment like i hate like i thought it was so fun and like ridiculous until you know i started driving around and like everyone was just flicking me off out windows it was like oh my god

Like, who's watching this show? Like, chill. Like, I thought this was like a fun, like, party show. Like, why you guys... Isn't the news on? Like, aren't we in Iraq? Like, isn't there a war? Like, I just never understood because I came from, like, play pretend with the princes and everything. And I just thought, you know...

So, no. You understood what you were doing and then when people didn't and they thought it was real, you were like, wait, guys. Yeah. Sam and Kel. No, no. And like Brody will say to anybody that's like, Spencer planned every single, like he's a witness to like the pre-

Like the blueprint, like I executed it too well, you know? And here's how they got me. And this is how the predatory producer, you know, and me being naive and Heidi just hit me with this. And I was like, Oh my God, I'm so triggered by that quote. They were always saying, um,

We're going to read, uh, this is your redemption arc. We're going to redeem. So I'm always chasing, like you do this and then we're going to, so I'm like, I like this, but it's like, I should have been like watch Batman. I'm like, there's no way the Joker is getting redeemed. Like part three, you know, like, like I just, I just like, oh yeah, that sounds great. You're going to redeem me. Yeah. What season four? Like, woo.

So like I fell for that just con, which, you know, that's a problem when you're 23 and you do think you're smarter than everybody, which I obviously was not that I just got, you know, I thought I was in with everybody and I'm working with this producer that I already made the show with. But it's like, oh, no, they were sailing me off the waterfall like Niagara.

And, you know, I didn't care because they're also blood money paying, you know, we're the highest paid people on television at this time. So I'm going... I had a million dollar suit collection. I didn't even wear suits. And then I gave them all to my friend who was a real estate agent. Shout out Mikey P. And, you know, so like...

I was like, what do you do with all this money? You buy a suit. Save it. No, buy gold. That's what I would say. That's the one thing I did that was smart at one time. I bought all this gold. So I carried a backpack around with half a million in gold coins. Because you can't spend gold.

You know, like it takes... It would keep you in line. What about a business manager? We had a problem with business managers, let me tell you. They take your money? Not only do they take... They take 5% of all the money you spend because they have to like do the math for it. Oh, so be careful with a business manager because they love you spending money. That's their favorite. So gold was your friend. You're like...

like I can't spend this yeah I should have bought more of it right right right okay Spencer you created the concept I am now convinced I look back and I'm like there was simple life there was like newlyweds Jessica Simpson and Nicholas Shea like early early days but you created the reality show villain

Oh, I'll take that 1,000%. Right? Give me my one credit. I'm going to add that to my Wikipedia. The originator of the reality star. And it was fun until you realize like there's no getting out. So as I look back,

they were frankenbiting is which I learned later is where they're just taking audio and putting it there and putting you at an event you're not at saying you did this like I was just watching this episode where Lauren comes in like that Heidi stood her up and there's a note from Heidi anyone that knows Heidi knows

her handwriting looks like Egyptian hieroglyphs. Like she doesn't know what she's writing. I don't know if she can even write. And so this cute little note, like, sorry, Lauren LCE, like I can't hang out. Like went to the movies of censor. Love you. Like perfect. Colligraphy. Like Heidi never wrote that note. They never told her she was standing up. LCE. It's like these simple things like murk you out and Lauren's playing her long. She knows Heidi didn't write that note and coming in like,

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I've sat down with reality people now and sitting down with you who was like the originator of the villain. I want to expose how easily the edit process is that reality TV uses to make something look like a conversation happened. And it really was a complete different conversation that happened. Do you know what I mean? So,

Who is someone that you really dislike? Like someone that pisses you off and can get you like riled up. You can be Adam Davila. Okay. I'm Adam Davila. Okay. Um,

And I'm going to, we're about, we're in a fight. We are in a fight right now. I'm Adam, you're Spencer. And I'm talking so much shit to you. This is what's going to happen is the point is, is I'm going to, it's like, I'm a producer being like, you're pissed at Adam. What would you say to Adam? And it's like, fuck you. And then you walk out of the interview. What I'm going to do is at the beginning of this episode, it's going to be a cold open and

I'm going to dub in a different question of me being like, Spencer, you're irrelevant. How do you feel? And you're going to be looking at me when really everyone right now will see what that original thing was. I'm talking about Adam DeVillo, but we're going to cut it and make it look like you were shitting on me and you walk out of the color daddy interview. Oh my gosh. It's so scary. Well, give me a few minutes. To tell you how I'm envisioning. No, I see the vision, but I'm just like trying to think about what I'd actually say that could come off believable. Like, fuck you.

You're a fucking predatory person. Ooh, that's pretty good. Oh my God. That's better than anything we had. That's way stronger than a fuck you. Do you have a notes app of what you want to say to Adam Tavillo? Uh, yeah, I do. Shit.

You need to drink some of your flat champagne. We're going to need to get, we can do it twice. Like, we just want to get the best. And again, what is happening right here is going to go in the episode, just so you know. You're not getting fucked over. Like, we're going to show this pro. You know, as long as this goes on Spotify, I don't care what you show. Power of edit, baby. I liked that first line you said. Yes. But it's not dramatic enough. Right. Because, I mean, you are a predatory person. Yeah.

I can't even take it seriously. Okay, here we go. I think it would be dramatic if you get up and walk out. I'm gonna, definitely. Okay, you're practicing. You're practicing. Oh, yeah? Fuck you. Fuck this interview. Stupid podcast. Fuck this. Shit's over in here. What the fuck? That was good. Spencer!

Spencer! Dude, that was good. That was good. It has to be more low-key. I agree. I agree. No, I think that was pretty good because you said, fuck you, fuck this. I'm going to do one more and I'm going to keep all this in of like, guys, this is, I'm like poking him. I'm Adam DeBello. I'm like, you are- So that's the thing. You wouldn't even, that's what's so crazy about reality TV. Adam DeBello wouldn't be here. They send these, for the Hills, she was called the collector.

That's how shady this shit is, to collect the fucking... And she would just get shit out of you? No, she would come and, like, she fake jerked off and busted a nut on my face. To pump, like, to, like... And it worked, and I, like, went nuts. Okay, so let's, like, channel that annoyance. Who... Let me call Heidi. Who do I dislike?

Hi, honey. Who do I really dislike that I could channel just like lots of anger for a fake scene here? I feel like I don't talk to enough people to hate anybody anymore. Oh, thank you, honey. I knew you would know. Love you. You're welcome. Here, I'll put you on the mic. There you go. Love you. Prattdaddy.com. Prattdaddy.com. Love you. Stream Superficial.

Okay, get out of your car. Oh, lots of people did, but one I have to see. Pretend I'm him. You're a fucking loser. Yeah, uh-huh, uh-huh. This is the biggest fucking waste of time. I can't even believe Spotify gave you a fucking show. I bet this doesn't even last another fucking year. Why don't you just delete this whole fucking episode? Good luck with your little imaginary boyfriend you never show on fucking IG stories. Fuck you.

No, that was good. What I've learned is like the more exaggerated, the faker it looks now because now everyone is so exaggerated on all these shows. So you got to like. Well, in post edit and that's the beauty again, I'll share with everyone watching is like, we'll look back and see which one looks more real. Maybe the first one looks more real because it was less try hard. I may even, you know, the Holy Spirit, I may give you a third just out of nowhere. So, you know, third, you know, you have to do these 12 times. That's like that video I sent you. Yeah.

yeah yeah and I rewatched it like this supposedly where I'm bullying Heidi into like moving in with me to like I would never move into Curson Avenue like I'm not bullying anyone to like live across from fucking Boa or Boca what it's a I don't even yeah yeah like a liquor store like so no I was not but this big scene this was when it

It was a wrap for me. Right. Was when I, she's like, I don't think I want to move in with you. Like doing her Meryl Streep level. And I'm like, then get at my answers. Get out of my car. We did that at least 12 times. They're like floor the car more. And when they shooting the exhaust pipes, she gets in the car right after we go to Don Antonio's. Like, that's just a night. But like,

Boom. And here's how I'm even crazier. The song that they like put to it, like apologize. Yeah. I gave them the One Republic song. I was like, this would be so good. Because Heidi was like in talks to do a song with Ryan Tedder. And he played me that. I'm like, I'll get this on the hill. So then I even gave them the murder song. As we're kind of. We're not wrapping up. No, we're not. Oh my God. No, no, no.

We're not. You're like, I'm not leaving. Thank you for playing along. That was a great promo. Is there a specific manufactured storyline you regret saying yes to? Yeah, the sex tape. I didn't think people... I thought it was like clout too. Kim just made...

so much off of hers. It wasn't a negative. There were no tape even ended up coming out. So like I thought that that's why I played along called a fake producer that wasn't on the phone with LC. It was me pretending to apologize something I didn't do to a producer like yeah. To your knowledge did Adam Davilo ever abuse his power when producing the show and in what ways?

You know, here's what's so funny. Like I was ready to go all in on Adam Neal, but I'm a mercenary. If they called me right now to be on Selling Sunset and I hate him more than anyone on earth, I'd be like, what's my fee? You know, like, so you can't even ask somebody who's like a mercenary about people because...

Like I should have known his last name is devil with an O like that's not a coincidence. And think here's the other thing that I now have the benefit of perspective with. Yeah. Like we've now been on two seasons of celebrity big brother. We are locked up.

you know, 50 plus days of producer. We did. I'm a celebrity. Get me out of here. Marriage bootcamp, wife swap, famous food, like the list of shows of dealing with producers, not to mention all these pilots who shoot and like, there's nobody like that guy. So here's the problem with people like Adam and how they'll always win. They're male and he brings in his enablers and they're all like guarded. You know, I'm not saying this is like,

They will always win because there's then me, the mercenary, because I know this is a demonic demon. And I was like, put me on Netflix. So all these people around Christine, they're not going to back her because they don't want to rock the ship. They don't want to, you know, they don't want Selling Sunset to end. So...

That's how Me Too and these people are enabled because the people around them are like, ain't happening to me like you because I'm one of his like... I'm sure the way he treated Whitney and LC and I'm sure... God knows how... They probably love him because when...

things did come out in Heidi's store or whatever, guess who's the first one to be like, he's the best guy ever. Maybe to you, but that's not the truth. Like that's your, like you can't defend, you know, so. Totally. And I think it's fucked up because like you're saying, these men in these position of power insulate themselves with all these other men that are going to make him like almost impenetrable to any type of power.

any type of getting in trouble and however what you're saying also is because you're the mercenary it's fucked up like we saw christine quinn was one of the first people which she's fortunate she's got a lot of fucking money she's got her own money and she's got her husband that has a fuck ton of money and so when you're in a position where you need this person that's in a position of power and fucked up but you need to make a living you need money you're

you're kind of at the hands of their power. And so I hear what you're saying. You're like, I would take the Netflix show because that's what your career is, but you're not saying he's a good guy. I want to, because I've never talked about this to my listeners. So when Heidi was on Call Her Daddy last year, she brought up an incident where the producer from the Hills was physical with her. After filming that episode, she,

The MTV rep that repped Heidi called my team and said, you need to take that out of the episode or you can't air it. I don't even know if Heidi knows this. She definitely does not. Okay. Shout out Joya and Jay and who else? I love you guys. Right, I don't even know. So we get this call. That's what's so shady because it's like they protect the net. Like I love MTV, but it's like, that's Adam. She didn't say...

MTV you can't like that's the so my team gets this call and daddy gang listening like you can go back and that interview I they said you have to take that part out or you can't air the episode I thought it was coming from Heidi and I'm like who am I to put someone's like abuse story out there if they don't want it out so I took it out of the episode fast forward

A few weeks ago, Christine Quinn sits down with me and she talks about how Adam Davilo is the new producer who is the original producer of The Hills. And she mentions Heidi's name in the interview saying we both had really bad experiences with these producers. Immediately, I message Heidi. I go right to Heidi because I'm like, I don't want to put your name in the episode if you're not comfortable with it. I know Christine doesn't want to speak for you. I want to make sure you're good with it. And Heidi was like, absolutely put it in there. It's the truth.

To which I then realized, oh my God, last year I fully got played. I was like last year, that was not Heidi not wanting to put that in. But now that you're done with the Hills, can you explain what the fuck happened with that whole situation? Again, I wasn't there. I was never allowed to be. That's why these predator type people like that

People that want the smoke they won't have like he I never interacted with Adam ever once he knew my level You know, like you don't play like I don't play so I never got to interact with Adam because it would've been on So I was banned from the shoot the photo shoot that this happened So what I did was send shout out Kevin Carlson her bodyguard

to go in my place because I'm like, I'm not allowed to go to her photo shoot. Yeah, that's weird. Again, you would need Heidi here, but from what I recall is she had one of those loose,

I guess there was also a comment about her new boobs, you know, like, you know, because she just had, nobody had seen it, whatever. And she had one of those backs that like are open back where it's like pretty much like in the right angle, it's like butt cheek, you know, like of a dress. And I guess he like put his hand in,

like ass cheek grab and the security to the point where he like chopped her his hand off and was like checked him you know shout out Kevin gangster but he was there this happened so we had a witness we like he was you know

It makes me really sad for Heidi that it took years. Like everyone is believing Christine Quinn right now. Oh, I literally, when this came out, I all, again, I didn't watch Selling Sunset because I hate this person so much. I don't care how good the show is, Adam, right? But when I saw this, I was like, this is so good.

this is an angel from heaven just came out and then she's in this outfit. I'm like, she is out of the, this is the matrix. This is literally Trinity coming to like, and it took what? 12 years. Like you can go back on Google and she was like, this is not appropriate. Like you can't, like she felt the point where she called me and I was like, what the, so I called and I left some psycho message, you know, like I'm sure, I hope he still has it. I hope,

You know, but here's how weird life is. And so when I went back to college to finally graduate in 2013, I'm in a Staples on Olympic and I go because I drink lots of water and fluids. I go to go pee in the Staples. And, you know, I'm not a like a I like to go in the stalls pee. I feel more protected, you know. So I open the stall door. Guess whose face I look at?

Adam. Adam DeVillo. I haven't seen this person since 2008.

maybe the first night of hills filming i've never even seen him since then open and he looks like i'm there to murder him you know because this is like some random staples in the men's room in the stall he's coming out and he's like and it took me i didn't like process like who is like why is this freaking out yeah like what's happening i just want to pee like you're blocking the urinal here like toilet get out of the way and he's like what are you doing here i'm like

Adam, what are you doing? He's like, I'm going to the bathroom. I'm like, why are you in Staples? I'm like, buying books for college. Why are you here? And he's like, because I work down the street and this is the better bathroom. I'm like, huh?

huh? Like, so, you know, to this day, I think he doesn't believe I was buying staples and it was like, I can touch you if I want. I could get you anywhere type. Like, like just know anytime you're going to the bathroom, I could open the stall door and be there. Like, that's how I think God wanted me to have that last, like, don't ever feel too cozy on that toilet because that door could open and it could be me. So, you know, like it was a weird,

but it's like I didn't have it had been three years I was back in college I didn't I hadn't been I'm now back in the game trying to be famous again so like I'm mad again but then I didn't like really care but he couldn't accept it like and I was so chill and I was like oh what are you up to like and he was like what are you and then Heidi comes like why are you here and she's like I'm like it was just such a good he probably he couldn't

He did not believe it could have been a coincidence. Yeah, no way. He's like, you are here to kill me? Or stalking me? One trillion percent. Here's the weirdest part. So years before this, just to show you how demonic this project with the Hills was. Yeah. We go out for a pitch with one of these evil producers because again, we're mercenaries and he's like, hey, I want to pitch you to Lifetime. We're like, okay, like his right hand guy.

So we go to this pitch and we're sitting there and he's like, it's amazing. We can all tell in this lifetime executive that we can all sit here. I mean, at one time we were trying to steal Heidi's soul. And like Heidi just starts hysterically crying in real life because she's like so triggered by like knowing that like she felt that. And it's like the pitch went so sideways, like stealing her soul. Wait, Adam DeVillo said that? No, no, his right hand. Oh, his right hand man.

Literally said at one point we were trying to steal Heidi's soul. Now look where we are. Yeah, like and we can all be together and like pitch. And Heidi's like, that's why I felt that way for so many years, you fucking psychos. Okay. What is the wildest thing you've done to make a headline? Tell us. Oh, I mean, any headline you ever saw, I was behind. And so it's like, I actually, thanks to my mom, she's a great,

I have a, the biggest thing you've ever seen in your life of every cover, tabloid, everything I've ever been in. And the other day I pulled it out just to like, cause I was going to do TikToks on them. It was like, everyone was the most crazy stories. I'm like, made that up, made that up, made that up. One time we made our entire house look like we were squatters. They're not squatters. Like, like, uh,

What are those people that like fill up a house with stuff? Oh, hoarders. Hoarders. We filled it up with hoarders and like, you know, like just made it like piled up and like got an InTouch magazine cover. Like Heidi and Spencer are in squalor. InTouch cover. I think we got 25K. Shout out Dan Wakeford. What the?

Yeah, like, so I mean, like, that's like a petty one. But like everything you could ever think of. We once did a deal for like a half a million just for four covers of Us Weekly. There's no, we didn't know what the covers were. It's like, let's make stuff up, you know? So I'd have to go through. But like, the weirdest thing that I didn't have to do with that I saw a headline recently that,

Heidi called me, the article said, Heidi called me like chicken legs or something and Spencer was going to get calf implants. I was like, calf implants? Like, even if I had, I do have, I don't have a big calf, but like, I wouldn't, I hate needles, but like that's the level. Calf, I was like, so I have so many of them.

That is, you know, that's really cool that you have those like mementos. Oh, I want to frame them all. And Heidi's like, there's, they're not going on the wall. I'm like, this is art, honey. This is art. We'll put them next to our portraits in our homes of ourselves. We do have every cover framed. I think you guys should do that. Like I want spreads framed. Like six pages is everyone. These are, that's a lot of BS that we had to make up. I love that little cap and plan. So I should be in creative writing. Yeah. Because these like, you'd be on and you'd just be.

you know i i yeah i don't think people give you enough credit i i always complain about that that's one of my i'm chasing credit i'm gonna give it to you right now like you went to usc the whole backstory i'm happy you told us of the princess of malibu like knowing you went to brazil you were shooting i will let you watch that i want to watch you can watch you i will let you and then i'll tell you what i think no i know you're gonna be like you could win an oscar it's the

It's insane. Like, it's the work of art. Okay, Spencer, what are you insecure about? Not getting credit. You know, for my level of energy I put into success, you know, I don't get treated with any credibility. You know, so...

That's an insecurity in the sense that like I've worked since 2004 nonstop on reality TV fame and, you know, and people are just like, oh, I hate a guy from the hills. That took work full. Like I was working. That's a job. So, you know, that's definitely an insecurity. And, you know, thankfully being a dad,

created my new focus on just being like the best dad so it's like it's less selfish so no matter what like I've now transitioned like I'm kind of like a rap you know like whatever happens with my career and like titles like now I've already moved on to like let me build the best superstar child and great human so like that has been a great energy shift what I just I

I wish it's a hard balance because I learned so many lessons, but like, should I have had a kid sooner? Did I need to go through everything to be ready to be a parent? So, uh, but insecurities. I know. I think that's a great answer. Do you think being a dad has changed you a lot?

It made me now thirsty again because I'm like, you know, like, let's get success. And I've, like, people are like, why are you still trying to be famous? Like, that is where I'm at. Like, I'm not going to go be a banker now. I can't go be Camilla and be a lawyer. Like, even though Kim's being a lawyer, like, I don't have that time for the baby bar. So, like, I am going to be a television star again. Going to get a show. I'm going to produce. Like, that's why I'm now back in the game. I think producing.

Oh no, it's going down. The slate is strong. So that's the only reason why, like, why do you want this again? It's like, because now it's time. Like I had already, I was living in Santa Barbara at my parents' beach house. I was done. But now, because I could live like that with just Heidi and eat tacos and be chill. But I want to give my son and future family members, you know, because Heidi doesn't want to stop at one. So it's like, I want to build something.

you know, solid, you know, because I grew up with an amazing life. It's too late to be a dentist. Spencer Pratt. I just want to look to the camera and thank the Daddy Gang. Oh my God. For all the Daddy Gang, promo code Daddy, and you get 20% off Pratt Daddy crystals. You know, I usually go to 15, but since it's Daddy Gang, and I'm Pratt Daddy, that is funny. I was Pratt Daddy before you were

you know you kind of hijacked the daddy gang but I was like I think I and I used to literally claim as snapchat a year as proud daddy I'd be like gang gang we out here gang gang I was like see I never saw that no you didn't I know you're too young you can't hijack something you didn't know existed no energetically I'm just kidding honestly thank you so much for

coming on I'm not ending I'm gonna I'm leaving Spencer's gonna keep talking this is the real way to show thank you so much gotta go goodbye um Spotify Spotify live after room I'm gonna like be live after her show and doing my own live room goodbye Spencer thank you so much for coming on call her daddy I really do appreciate it I'm not gonna stand up dude you're great that was

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