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Olivia Ponton: Happy Pride! (FBF)

2024/12/13
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Olivia Ponton: 我在佛罗里达州长大,我的家庭非常重视旅行,这影响了我对旅行的热爱。我是一个喜欢积极参与活动的人,而不是单纯地放松休息。我更喜欢洛杉矶的包容性和开放性,这让我能够做真实的自己。我成为 Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Rookie 的经历让我感到难以置信,拍摄过程也比看起来要艰苦得多,因为天气很冷。TikTok 上的紫色洗发水趋势改变了我的生活,TikTok 也影响了我的旅行计划,让我想去夏威夷和意大利。然而,TikTok 上的恶意评论也让我对自己的身材感到不安全。在过去一年的 Pride 月份里,我经历了从出柜到更深入地了解自己性取向的过程。我通过给父亲送一件印有“我的女儿是同性恋”的衬衫来向他出柜。我曾对自己是同性恋感到恐惧和不安全,但后来我意识到自己是泛性恋。我解释了双性恋和泛性恋的区别。我曾为了获得男性关注而努力成为男性理想中的女性形象,但后来意识到这只是为了寻求认同感。公开自己的性取向极大地改善了我的心理健康。我认为人们对我的性取向的质疑,部分原因是我非常女性化。出柜后,我在老家失去了一些朋友,但在洛杉矶却结识了更多 LGBTQ 社群的朋友。在异地恋中,我建议要经常进行 FaceTime 沟通,并安排固定的 FaceTime 约会时间。我不推荐异地恋,但承认在某些情况下这是不可避免的。异地恋会让一个人难以活在当下。我不喜欢惊喜,更喜欢计划好的约会。我曾有过一次糟糕的第一次约会经历:对方带我去跳伞,而我恐高。我认为异地恋会对一段关系产生负面影响,但并非总是导致分手的原因。我认为异地恋的持续时间不应该太长,尤其是在年轻的时候。如果伴侣没有在社交媒体上发布任何关于你的照片,这是一个危险信号。我认为可以通过短信分手,尤其是在异地恋的情况下。我认为与工作伙伴发生争吵是最糟糕的。为了维护心理健康,我设置了一些社交媒体界限,例如关闭评论功能。我建议人们要记住社交媒体上的图片经过精心制作,并不代表现实生活。我建议女性要积极主动地去生活,不要因为社交媒体上的完美形象而感到自卑。 Alex Cooper: Alex Cooper 就Olivia 的经历和观点进行回应和引导,并提出一些问题。

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Why did Olivia Ponton decide to come out as bisexual?

Olivia felt it was important to be honest about her sexuality and stop living in a secret. She realized she needed to be in a relationship with a female to fully understand her feelings and confirm her identity.

What was Olivia Ponton's experience like during her first Pride Month after coming out?

Last Pride Month was about figuring out what it was like to be bisexual on social media, dealing with both acceptance and negativity from people in the streets and at parades.

How did Olivia Ponton come out to her family?

Olivia called her mother and explained her relationship with a female, providing facts about the LGBTQ+ community. She also sent her dad a shirt that read 'My daughter's gay' as a subtle way of coming out to him.

What is the difference between being bisexual and pansexual, according to Olivia Ponton?

Bisexuality is liking boys and girls, while pansexuality is liking anyone, regardless of gender. Pansexuality focuses more on the vibe and connection between two people and is open to non-binary and transgender individuals.

How has being open about her sexuality affected Olivia Ponton's mental health?

Being open about her sexuality has positively impacted her mental health by allowing her to be more open about her relationships and feelings, which has made her happier on a day-to-day basis.

What advice does Olivia Ponton have for people struggling with social media's impact on their self-esteem?

Olivia advises people to remember that social media presents the best version of someone's life, which is not real. She suggests that people should not compare themselves to these highly constructed images.

What was Olivia Ponton's experience like during her Sports Illustrated Swimsuit photoshoot?

The photoshoot took place in Montenegro in October, where the weather was freezing, and Olivia had to model in thong bikinis. She was shivering and had to be edited to hide her goosebumps, making it an unglamorous yet memorable experience.

What is Olivia Ponton's stance on long-distance relationships?

Olivia does not recommend long-distance relationships, as they make it difficult to live in the present and can lead to feelings of insecurity and guilt. She believes it's better to break up than to stay in a long-distance relationship.

What was Olivia Ponton's worst dating experience?

Olivia went on a first date where the guy took her skydiving, despite her fear of heights. She ended up leaving the date and never speaking to him again, calling it a red flag for being too spontaneous.

How does Olivia Ponton manage her social media boundaries?

Olivia uses the 'do not disturb' feature on her phone to avoid notifications and has turned off her comment section to avoid negative comments about her body. She focuses on setting strong boundaries to protect her mental health.

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Olivia discusses her family's love for travel and her experiences traveling with them during summers. She shares how it was both enjoyable and challenging, especially during her teenage years when she wanted to socialize with friends but was traveling with her family.
  • Olivia's family takes many summer trips.
  • She reflects on traveling with family as a teenager while seeing attractive people.
  • She contrasts her preference for active summers with the more relaxing California beach culture.

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Olivia, welcome to Call Her Daddy. It's an honor to be here. So it's summer. It's June 1st. Yes, ma'am. But you grew up in Florida. So was it summer like all the time for you? Like, I don't know. When I moved to Los Angeles, it was even weird. Like, I

I don't know like it getting cold that night I'm like what is this like I never fun fact I never owned like a sweatsuit until I moved to Los Angeles like I never owned sweatpants growing up like what was it where was I gonna wear sweatpants too okay so did you because I'm thinking like this is basically kicking off like the summer vibe for call her daddy did you and your family like what was your summer situation did you take trips and vacations during summer

Yeah, like my family's like huge on travel. So like each summer we would go to like a different country So i'm like very well diverse in the traveling. That's like why I love traveling so much My last summer at home. We literally did like a european Summer trip. It was a little weird like traveling with my family Yeah, it's like we went to like all these crazy places, but I was like with my parents I was like awesome like 17 years old i'm like seeing like attractive people and I was like

My mom is right there. I didn't even think about that of like when you're single and you kind of get to that age where you're traveling with your family and you're like, wait, I wish I was with my friends right now because I want to like go to the bars and like flirt. Exactly. Exactly. But then it's like you're with your mom and you're just like, yeah. My mom's like, do you see anyone attractive? And I'm like, yeah. Yeah. A lot of them. A lot.

a lot of them but I can't say anything right well I'm gonna bring them back to the hotel room with my mom my dad we're all gonna cozy up together like what the fuck exactly that's such a good point okay I like completely forgot that concept and I can feel that for you okay I need to know this because I actually feel like this tells like a lot about someone yeah are you the type of person that can like sit on the beach with a book and relax and tan and knock it up are you the person that's like guys come play paddle ball let's go in the ocean I feel like I'm like the second not

I'm always like, can we go do something? There's definitely my days where I'm like, okay, let's literally go sit on the beach. I don't want to talk to anyone. My phone's on airplane mode all day. But then there's other times I'm like, I literally cannot sit still. And in Florida, everyone has boats. So you go boating, you go wakeboarding. I water skied for nine years of my life. So it was like you were constantly doing something on top of just sitting and reading. That's like a California thing, I feel like.

You're actually so right. I feel like Florida and California are completely different. And now you lived in both. Which do you prefer? Oh, oh, that's. Oh, wow. I've never actually been asked that question before. I always get like New York versus L.A. New York. I mean, L.A. versus Florida. I would say I love Florida like as a state. It's like.

the weather wise like and kind of like my hometown's stunning you know don't really like what's going on with Florida right now um and then here I mean I like the people more I like how like open it is how like I'm able to be who I am and like not get judged by anyone

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You were named a Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Rookie for the Class of 2022. Congratulations. Thank you. How does that feel? It was absolutely...

Like I fell to the ground like crying. I was like, no. I was like, this is not real. Like major imposter syndrome. I was like, this is not real. And then two weeks later, I literally went to Montenegro. That's where we shot it, which is like a really small place near Albania. And like you travel by yourself. Like it's like a full deal. And I'm like 19 years old. So I was like,

I've traveled by myself, but you know, like New York to LA, you know, like LA to Mexico, like stuff like that, but never like a 14 hour flight. Like I stopped in Turkey for a little bit, like no idea where I was going. I was like, I could really get lost right now. And you're by yourself. Yeah. Like coming back, I flew back with everyone cause I was the last girl to shoot, but like going there, like,

I can't even imagine going by myself at 19 years old to a foreign country also to prepare for like one of like the biggest moments of your career. It's like fucking huge. I was like sitting in the airport just like,

This is not real. I was like, what am I doing with my life? Okay, so you show up and I was thinking like, okay, obviously, I'm sure there were like so many glamorous moments of shooting this, but we need to hear, Olivia, the not so glamorous moments. Like, what was an unglamorous moment with you that you were like, oh my God, people would never anticipate or expect this? Yeah, so it's swimsuits. Right. So you think you're going and shooting somewhere like warm. Right. No, it was like October time, so...

And the place that we were, it was like 40 to 50 degrees. And you're in like thong bikinis. And you're like shooting in the water. And it's like...

freezing and you're just like sitting in there and you're like shaking like I have so many funny photos of me like you know like when you're like in between changing and I'm like in this huge like robe jacket situation and that was definitely like a moment where I was like nobody would ever guess that we're like freezing in all of these photos because when you look at them you're like oh my god like

It makes me want to be on a beach. Yeah, but I was like, oh no, I was freezing. Like I was like shaking there and like they probably have to like edit out my goosebumps because it's like so bad. Okay, well no one can tell that you were cold in the photo. So I have to give you props. You're like teeth are chattering and all of a sudden you're like... Yeah, it's like you're... There was the last shot that we did, I got like soaking wet and we were like on this ledge kind of situation where like water was like crashing on it, but it wasn't like in the water. It was kind of odd. But I was like laying down in it and...

The sun had already set so there was like not really any sun. It's like very like glistening vibes But I kid you not it was probably like 30 degrees out Maybe 40 and the water was like absolutely freezing and you're just getting like splashed with water You're sitting there you're trying to be like super sexy and like so glamorous But you're like I like literally was like sitting there like trying to like roll around on this like block of cement like trying to be sexy and it was like

definitely a moment where I was like I really hope this comes out well congratulations I mean it's so cool to sit with you and like hear the behind the scenes also because it's like such a cool moment also especially because you're 19 Olivia is your family like so stoked or they my family doesn't really process anything like even the way I moved out I was just kind of like

I'm going to go to Los Angeles for two weeks and then I'll be back. And then I kind of just came here and I never left. How many siblings do you have? I have one older sister. Okay. Blessing. Love her. So you're like the baby that just left. Good for you. Okay. Well, you not only are you blowing up in the modeling world, but you've blown up on TikTok. Yes. So we're going to play a little game. Okay. Called TikTok made me do it. Okay. Okay. A trend you've tried because of TikTok. Wow.

Emily Mariko's like salmon avocado have you not tried it no she did like salmon rice avocado and like the seaweed packets and then you like mix it all together and you like make your own salmon roll okay so now I need to go try it okay something you've bought because of TikTok you would think growing up in Florida I've always been blonde that I would know what purple shampoo was

And then I got on TikTok and I got on TikTok right when like the purple shampoo thing was a trend. And I was like, what is this stuff? And I went in, it changed my life. I was like, so that was definitely something I was like, oh, that is such a good investment. It's my best friend. Yeah. Okay. A random fact that you've learned from TikTok. This one's weird. I also don't know if it's true. I heard that your wingspan is how tall you are.

But I'm 5'9", and I feel like my wingspan's not 5'9". Okay, after this interview, I'm going to get my tape measure, and we're going to do the entire thing. No, that's actually... I've heard that too, I think, and I don't know if I believe it. Okay, a song you've added to your playlist because of TikTok. All of my music comes from TikTok, first of all. Recently, I've put this song on repeat every single day for... It's probably like a week and a half now. It's called, like, 10 Things I Hate About You by...

leah kate i think she was just on tour with madison beer i think she was like the girl who opened up for her and her that song just went like insanely viral on tiktok and i like see it every when i'm like okay let me listen to it let me see if it's like the hype chamming in my car every day so good okay somewhere you've went because of tiktok

Hawaii. Hawaii is my favorite place and I feel like Italy like I see Italy all over my for you page. I want to go this summer so badly. Something you've become self-conscious of because of TikTok. Okay growing up I was pretty confident. I was very independent. Once I got on TikTok I got very insecure about like my boobs and my body because I would just get like the most just

the meanest comments about it and I would just start like overthinking I'd be like wow like I was like loved my body like looking up to like models and whatnot I was like why is everyone so I you know created boundaries and I like turned off my comments for like a solid like I think it was like two-ish months and then eventually like I got more like secure with it have you ever responded back to like a troll and then regretted what you said

Not to a troll, but I actually used to be exactly like that. Like in high school because I was so like independent. Like I was very much like I'm fighting for myself person. So not that I was a bitch, but I was like a little kind of like, um, like why are you talking about me? Like especially girls in like high school, I'd be like, I would confront them. I'd be like, why are you talking like crap about me right now? So I feel like almost when I started social media, I had to like,

create like a boundary I'm like okay like you can't respond you know people in my life help me a lot with that because I'll be like I'm gonna do it I'm gonna blow up on them and they're like calm down it's okay talk to my therapist and I'm like okay no it's hard it's like it definitely is takes a different level of self-restraint because you don't know the person and so I guess that's why it's so easy for them to be mean to you because they don't know you and then you reply back and I've done it before where I'm like

That was dumb. Why did I give in to that? Yeah. And I now don't do it either. Okay. Today is June 1st, the first day of Pride Month. You've been so open about your sexuality. Yes. What are your plans to celebrate Pride this year? Oh.

I just love Pride Month so much. But I would say, so last Pride Month I came out, you know, on June 1st as bisexual. So I feel like kind of Pride Month last year was like me kind of like figuring out what it was like to be bisexual. Like being on social media and being like, wow, people are so accepting. And then you're like also dealing with like the not so nice people like in the streets or when you go to the parades, like dealing with like, you know, the mean people and just being like,

I feel like this year I'm definitely there's West Hollywood Pride June 3rd and then there's obviously New York Pride. I think New York Pride is better personally so definitely will be then. That's so exciting for you that you can fully like lean in this year. Let's go back to the moment you came out right? Okay. How did you tell your friends and family? I called my mother and there was a lot of moments where I was like I'm just gonna do it like spur of moments I was like I just need to tell her like

It's such a secret and you kind of just hold it in for months and months that you're like, okay, I'm going to do this. My mom was coming to visit me in two weeks and I was kind of lying to her about the relationship I was in. I was, you know...

Didn't really know exactly how to be like, hey mom. I'm in a relationship with a female and I eventually called her up one day and was just like spit it out and like gave 20 facts about the lgbtq community and about my relationship and she just was like Okay, like cool and I was like, okay. Yeah. Bye and then we like didn't talk for two weeks and then she came and visited me and

She was like totally okay with it. And I was like, oh, this is awesome. Did she tell the rest of your family for you? I'm assuming because I never told my dad. I feel like I kind of came out with my dad by like sending him. I got him a shirt that said my daughter's gay.

And I shipped it to him because it was Pride Month. And I was like, oh, I feel like I should get my family some rainbow swag. And just bought him, like, my daughter's gay shirt. And he, like, sent me a picture of him, like, smiling with him on. And I was like, okay, he knows. Like, he knows. Like, that was kind of, like, me coming out to him. I love the...

not so subtle gesture is so baller you're like here you go dad if mom hasn't told you already yeah let's get into it oh fully and then my dad has always been like love whoever you want like I don't care and I was like oh cool that's amazing and was your sister same like did you yeah I feel like no no I called her because this was like right when we were getting close again and I was like I feel like I should like call my sister and be like hey by the way like you're probably gonna see it on social media soon so

And she like screamed. She was so excited for me. She was like, no way. I'm so excited for you. And I was like, oh, perfect reaction. I was like, thank you. Thank you, sister. That's why I appreciate you sharing that just because I know there's probably a lot of people that could be listening that are also going through what you went through a year ago. Right. Like they haven't come out yet. Maybe they don't know how to do it. It's so hard. Like you have to really figure out what works best for you. Like with my dad, like I could I tried telling him probably like,

20 times like there would be times where i'd be at home and i'd be like, okay Go up tell him he's sitting there. He's not doing anything. Just tell him I was like, I couldn't do it So I mean my dad had a very Like funny relationship like, you know, it's like a lot of dad jokes So I was like I feel like that's kind of something that's funny that he would look at it and he would laugh But he would be like, oh wait

okay like okay like this is oh that's cute it's almost like to Kate like look at each relationship and cater like how you feel and what your relationship with them is and like feel safe in the way that you've always felt safe with like your dad it's humor yeah and with my mom it's like we're deeper so it's just kind of like me just telling her that was like she obviously knew that took a lot for me to say to her so she was like okay

Was your mom the first person you came out to? Well, I guess not because you had a girlfriend at the time. Yeah, I would say like I always kind of knew and I feel like I had one best friend where we like kind of came out to each other because we were like, I think I am but like I'm not sure and I'd also I was the type of person that was like I don't want to come out until I like 1000% know that I am because there's always like the possibility where it really gets down to it that you're like, oh, I don't think I could do that and

So I would say them or just kind of like, I mean, my best friend right now, Emma, we like would always have conversations. We'd be like, I think that I am, but I'm not sure. Like I think, and then I met my first girlfriend and I was like, okay, I am. How did you deal with those like internal feelings of struggling to, to figure it out for yourself? Ooh,

I was very homophobic towards myself. So even when I was out, I was like, no, I'm not. Like, I don't know. There was always like the backhand thoughts. It's kind of like being insecure. It's like you're confident with it. But I was also like, is this like, is this bad? Like, is something bad going to happen? Like, this isn't okay. Like, I'd get like random comments and I'd be like really overthinking it. So I would say just kind of like for me, it was like I needed to be in a relationship with a female to be like, okay, I'm 1000% in this.

I came out and like, you know, really realized and like so many things made sense. Like when I was younger, I was like, oh,

that's the feeling that I had with that person. Okay. Got it. So then it kind of, that's amazing to also hear, like then it started to all kind of click for you, but I love how you also compare it to like that insecurity feeling of like the unknown and like not knowing how to handle that. I think everyone can relate to that feeling. What is the biggest thing that you've learned about yourself over the past year? Definitely when I came out, I came out as bisexual and I was in a really, really,

long-term relationship and then I got out of it and was able to experiment with all kinds of people and I

I mean, I'm so happy, but I figured out that I was pansexual and I came out with that in the past year. So I feel like that was kind of something, probably the biggest thing that I kind of realized about myself in the past year. Can you talk about, just for anyone that doesn't understand the difference between being bisexual and pansexual? Yeah. So the difference between it is bisexual is just liking boys and girls or, you know, men and female. And...

With being pansexual, it's like anyone. And I would say almost with being pan, for me, it's like I care more about the vibe between the two people and like the connection that we have. And, you know, it's also being open to talking to non-binary people, to be open to talking to transgender people. And I feel like for me, like I'm so open to anything. So I feel like that's just kind of when I met someone who is non-binary and I was like, oh, okay.

I really like you. I was like, okay. So I feel like it's honestly very similar. And I think one people think that.

It's so much more common than people realize. And I think it's great when anyone is like speaks up about it because it's not their responsibility to educate us, but like it is our responsibility to listen. Yeah. Are there any pansexual celebrities that you admire? Okay. Madison Bailey. She's in Outer Banks. Love her. When I found out she's pansexual, I feel like I loved her like 10 times more because I was like, yeah.

Yes. There's Cara Delevingne. Obviously, I think she's absolutely stunning. And I feel like just also like with being pansexual, it's like you really just don't care. Like with I mean, with bisexual, I feel like I don't really care either. But it's like you really don't care. Like it is purely an emotional relationship when you are with dating someone who is pansexual. You know, before I even came out, I was to the T.

focused on being like a male's ideal woman and I like I achieved it I was the blonde long-haired super glammed out every single day girl and you know like I had male's attention 24 7 but I was like really came down to it was all a validation thing it was like I just wanted them to call me pretty so I felt validated but it was like I didn't like them so I was like

that's kind of my journey with like figuring out that I was bisexual. Cause I was like, Oh, like you're telling me a pretty, like makes me feel really good. But then I'm like, I don't like kissing you. I don't like doing this. I'm like, Hmm.

You're raised to be like, so which boy do you like? And even aside from the sex part of it, you're more just like, oh, so I'm supposed to like a boy and hopefully they like me. Exactly. And it starts with like the hopefully they like me part is really where it gets in like your brain. Because honestly, like I think like we like women are pieces of art and we are

deserve for the boys to be like oh dude are they going to like me back not us being like does he like me oh my gosh is he gonna text me back oh my gosh does he want to go on a second date it's like no do like you should be asking yourself that you like him yeah and that's all that matters and i feel like that's almost like a question that i'll like start asking myself more recently it's like i'll notice about myself being like oh like why aren't they texting me back but i'll be like oh

hold on, do I even like them as a person? I'm like, I'll calm down and I'll be like, put my phone away. I'll like sit in the mirror for like 20 minutes and I'll be like, I'll literally write down all the green flags, all the red flags. And I was like, I'll come to a conclusion. I'll be like, I probably don't like them. I just crave it. When you're dating, it really is interesting. I feel like I saw a TikTok on this recently of someone being like,

you're constantly looking at the person that you're on a first date, second date with, and you're hoping that they're going to like you. And it's like, you leave that first date. Did you like them? Did you like their personality? How did you feel around them? And so many people forget that, that you need to like go home and be like, are they the type of person that I want to spend the next years with? Or do I just like the validation? Exactly. And like the attention. That's something that I struggle, like till this day, I'll be like, oh my gosh, like I liked them so much.

kind of do they like me back and then I'll sit there and I'll be like I'll talk about it with my mom because we talk all of the time and I'll be like yeah I'm kind of like how they made me feel but I'm kind of just craving the validation right now so I'm like I need to cut things off and just stop this here I think that's very relatable okay how has being open about who you really are affected your mental health it affected it amazingly um

Before I was like living in a secret kind of and I like wasn't able to like tell the people in my life Like what was going on? I'd be like, yeah works good. So I feel like when I came out it just helped it tremendously I was able to be so open about who I liked what I liked going on dates like telling people everything and I feel like Also, just with myself like kind of accepting it made

Just something in my brain click and it clicked and it made me so much happier on like the day-to-day basis. Okay. I remember lightly seeing there were like ridiculous rumors on TikTok that you came out for attention. People were saying one of your relationships was fake. Why do you think that happened? So this is also struggles. This is something that I struggle with on the day-to-day is like, I'm very hyper femme and yeah,

you know, looking at me, this is one thing that I eventually want to change in the LGBTQ community is like being femme and being gay is a very common thing. And I think it's why a lot of girls are scared to come out because they're like, oh, but I don't look the certain way. But it's like, there's no certain way that you have to look.

Like I dress like this every day. I do my makeup. I do my hair and I'm, I'm very gay. So people just also didn't want to accept it. Like, because I was catering to the men audience so much that they were just kind of almost, I feel like hurt by it. And they were just like, no, you're not like, you're not gay. And I was like,

wait, yeah, I am. I was like, hold on. I was like, this was a lot. Um, I can assure none of my relationships have ever been fake, especially because I'm very like emotionally invested in people that like when people would say it was fake, I'd be like, no, I don't even have the mental capacity to like have a, have a fake relationship right now. So how has being open about your sexuality affected your friendships?

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So in terms of relationships, everyone is always writing into me like, Alex, give us advice on long distance relationships. How the fuck do I maintain this? What do I do? Is it worth it? Should I stay with this person? You've had a long distance relationship. How did you manage to stay close with someone who lives so far away? Well, I've had numerous long distance relationships and it's hard. Like I feel like with myself,

Every relationship I get into is long distance. Even my friendships. All my friendships are long distance. It's like, it's kind of weird to say, but it's like, I'll go two months without seeing my friends and I'll be like,

Love you guys. Like, I FaceTime them. I think FaceTime is probably the best advice that I could give and, like, schedule times to FaceTime. So it's not just like a, oh, they're not answering me. It's like, no, we're going to go get smoothies together via FaceTime once a week or twice a week or however much you want to, like, have that communication with them. I feel like that would be the best. I also don't strongly recommend long distance, even though, like –

I can't say that because I'm literally, that would be me. You're like, Olivia, remember this for the next one. Yeah. I don't recommend it. But it's like, regardless, like anything with me, it's like being bicostal. It's like, well, I could have a relationship in New York, but then I come to LA and it's gonna be long distance. Or I go to, I travel, besides just New York and LA, I'm constantly in different places. So I feel like,

I don't recommend it, but it's also kind of inevitable in certain situations. I do appreciate though, like I have did the same thing when I was somewhat long distance scheduling those FaceTime dates. You naturally would be probably going on a date this Thursday night. Like, hey, let's have a date night FaceTime date and schedule that time. That's really good advice. Yeah, definitely. And then you guys can cook dinner on the phone together and, you know, like eat dinner and it's like a three hour FaceTime call, but it's like, and people would be like, oh, that's so stupid. But I'm like,

Honestly, it's not because I haven't seen them in two weeks and I like want to tell them about work or whatever it would be. Do you think being in a long distance relationship makes it more difficult to live in the present moment? 1000%. Yes, it's I mean, I'm sure you know, it's like you're constantly my screen time was like probably doubled when I was in any long distance relationship. And

Because I'm always texting the person just being like, hey, like I'm thinking about you. Like you're at an event and I feel like at events, like it's work. So you're there and you're trying to be on your A game, but then you're like, oh, I haven't answered them in five hours. Like I need to like text them. And like, I even got down to the point where I was texting them probably every like 20 minutes. And it was like,

okay, Olivia, get off your phone. You're at work right now. Stop. That's why those are, they are so hard is because I'm thinking about it's like you can feel guilty. You can feel, start to feel insecure. Like what is the other person doing? Exactly. Because my also thing is I will like post on my social media and not answer anyone and people get so offended by that. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. Like it's, it's not. I haven't even opened my text.

Yeah, like all of my text messages are, I haven't answered my mom today. Like it's not a personal thing. It's like, oh, I like had to post this at this time or I'm...

in the car and I'm taking a selfie. Like I'm not answering text messages. Like no, I'm taking a picture. I'm posting my story. Like it's not that deep. I've had in long distance when you know they're going out and you're not. And you're like, I'm sitting in my pajamas with my pimple cream on and you see that they're like going to the club and you want to not be like over the top because you don't want to trigger them of like, oh God, I have my like crazy girlfriend being like, well, are you going to text me when you're at the clubs? You're trying to be chill. But then you're also like, make me feel secure. I'm like, come on.

Exactly. And I think that was honestly probably the hardest thing, like just in like a long distance relationship in general. Like I've gone like months without seeing the person. It's like, well, I go out like a decent amount for like events and work and dinners and not being on my phone. And it's like, oh, crap. Like I don't ever want them to feel insecure because they shouldn't. Was there anything ever you or a partner did that was like super cute to keep it fun and like surprise one another? Yeah.

Ooh, I personally hate surprises. I've never been a surprising person. I'm like, no, like just tell me like if you're planning on coming see me, just tell me. I feel like just other cute things like just like fun dates. Like I feel like more recently I have a rule. Um, I will not go to dinner with someone like you want to take me on a date. We are not going to dinner. Like let's go do something like,

I had this guy, I told him that and I was like, okay, cool. And he was like, okay, I have a crazy day plan. Like, let's do this. And I was like, okay. He was like, um, where like athletic leisure. So I was like, okay, maybe we're going to go work out. I don't know, like boxing, something.

And he picks me up and we're in the car for maybe like 45 minutes. And I'm like, oh, like where are we? I also lived in Calabasas. So we were like driving further. So I'm like, where are we going? Also first date. So I'm like, this man could kill me. Oh, yeah. I'm like, wait, are you going to die? Like what? And all of a sudden he like looks at me and he's like, we're going skydiving. What? I was like...

I'm scared of heights. I you I probably should have told you this before that but I am like deathly afraid of heights. Skip forward um I actually ended up getting out of the car and Ubering home and I was like I never talked to him again. I was like no like this is this that was kind of like the biggest red flag that like you were gonna take me skydiving. To take someone skydiving on a first fucking date when you've never met in person? How did you meet that person? I met them

Because I used to live in a content house, so our content house would have events. So it was an event that we were having, and we just had mutual friends. And I was like, oh, you're cool. And he's very spontaneous. So I was like, okay, I need to date someone that's spontaneous. So I was like, okay, cool. Got it. Let's do this. And then... He just took it too far. It just went...

Right over his head Like the spontaneous level So you just said Hey I'm not down And you just Ubered back I just was kind of like Can you pull over Did he go skydiving I don't think so I don't know I like literally Like never answered him After that I was like Sayonara dude

Okay. Also because you're afraid of height. Yeah. Like, no. I was like, I'm already deadly scared of planes even as much as I am on them. I'm terrified of planes. So I was like, the fact that you just asked me to jump out of one with you, I don't even trust you. I don't even know you. I'm like, we're not even dating. I'm like, hold on.

Hold on. This is romantic. If you're with like the love of your life and you're like, let's do this. And who knows what's going to happen? It's like, I don't know you. Yeah. I was like, this is a lot for me. I was like, get me out of this car right now. I'm not risking my life with a random. Um, okay. So with regard to all the long distance relationships you've had, did most of them end because of the long distance? Um,

I feel like it would be a factor in it, but like never, it was never like the pure reason that I was like, we're breaking up because of distance. Like I should have never, I should have cut the relationship off when it became long distance in any relationship just because it made things way harder than it needed to be. Um, that's why I don't recommend long distance, but you know, do you think there's an expiration date to like all long distance relationship? I would say like max, like,

I mean, it also depends what kind of long distance you are. Because I know friends that live in Los Angeles and then, like, the other significant other lives in Vegas. And it's, like, that's such a quick flight back and forth. They see each other, like, all the time. But it's, like, also for me, it's, like, if I were in Los Angeles and I was dating someone in New York, it's, like, first of all, different time zones. Also...

I'm kind of not just in one specific time zone. I'll be like when I was in my sports illustrator, like in Montenegro, like the time difference, the time difference, I think it was like nine hours. And it's like, I don't even talk to you the whole day because when you're sleeping, I'm awake. And when I'm awake, you are sleeping. Or even when people are going to different colleges from each other and they're like, should I break up with this person? I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer, but probably because it's like, you're not going to be present.

Yeah. And we're too young to not be present in our lives. And that was my biggest thing. It was like I was missing out on all these crazy opportunities because I was like, oh, no, my partner won't feel comfortable with this. Like, I'm so sorry. And it's happened numerous times with numerous partners. It's just kind of like a me thing that I feel like almost I need to work on. But you don't live in the present at all. Yeah.

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any foot like if they haven't posted any i think it's a red flag one thousand percent i also do think it's a really red flag if they're posting you a lot and like consistently um just from like my own like knowledge of like things that have happened i'm like okay know what i'd like know what i don't like so i feel like that's like moving forward i'm like mm

yeah, like don't. Why are you doing that too much? Like a camera in my face in the morning. Yeah. Maybe not. Yeah. Okay. Is it okay to break up with someone through a text message? Yes. And people are so controversial. Do you think, do you think it's. I wasn't expecting you to be so definitive. No, I'm just. No, I'm 1000%. I have broken up with people over text message. I have been broken up with numerous times over text message. I've been broken up over.

over an email before. Like, I've been working up on Instagram DMs, Snapchat, like, anything that it's, like, I don't know, I just take, like, any form of social media. Also, when you're long distance, it's, like, am I really going to trail this person on for the next, like, month until I see them and then break up with them? Like, no. Like, then that becomes messy and then there's, like,

But maybe could you call them? Well, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like also that. Right. I've like called people. Like, yeah, like I've done that. Like that's like email. The email. What is the subject line of a breakup email? Sorry. Sorry. Goodbye. Have a nice life. Yeah. Yeah. That's rough. It's rough. But I get what you're saying. Like in some circumstances, it could be maybe justified. I think an Instagram DM is a little aggressive, Olivia. Well, I didn't do that. I just got I got broken up with over an Instagram DM and I was like,

this was harsh. I was like, okay. Yeah, that is harsh. That's really hard. Can you unsend it so I don't have to see it anymore? Okay. Which is worse for you? A heated argument with your partner in front of A, your parents, B, your friends, or C, your people you work with? Oh, definitely the people I work with. Cause I feel like with my family and friends, I can like

justify it and be like no I swear they're a good person work people they're like we saw that uh-uh they're done next no no no like you are not going back to this person we see their true colors we want what's best for you no I was like

I kind of agree. And it's kind of like embarrassing. Like, again, you can justify if like it's a dumb fight and you go to your parents and you're like, hey, we're having an off day to the work people you work with. You're like, I don't even I we shouldn't even have to be having this conversation because this is work. And like, why are we now? Why did you just watch me fight with my partner? Like, exactly. Not a little awkward now. Totally. OK, so you being on social media so often, I think like everyone that is on social media is.

I definitely think in the pandemic, it was like kind of almost not, I would never say healthy, but like it was helping a lot of people with loneliness and TikTok came about because everyone was like finding almost a community through there. Now I think a lot of people are back to talking about the negative effects of social media. And there's a lot of like detrimental things to our mental health that come from it. Can you talk about the boundaries that you personally have had to set for yourself with social media? Yeah.

I started using the feature on your phone where it's like the do not disturb where you get like zero notifications. It's awesome. It's so good. People hate me because I don't answer, but I'm like, like I'll, and you don't even get phone calls. So like my phone is like not buzzing at all. I'm like, this is awesome. Like I'm not, I've not, nobody's trying to contact me. All of a sudden I look at my phone and there's like 20 missed calls. I'm like, dang it. So I feel like boundaries wise. I mean, even when I turned off my comment section for that time, cause I couldn't

people making fun of my body anymore. And I feel like just it came down to a point where I now have like very strong boundaries with me on social media and I

certain things I'll talk about and like bring up and be like hey that wasn't cool but kind of just like genuinely doing that yeah I think I mean I don't have my comment section on anymore and I think like a lot of people still to this day are like oh you can't take the heat and I'm like it's actually not it was actually that I I will I yeah it was hurting my feelings yeah that it I were just like it wasn't helping my life

So I turned them off. And now I think I've gotten to the point where I'm like, why? Yeah. Why would I like go back? Because I don't really want to hear. And I do love when people are so nice and they're like, oh, open your comments so we can like hype you up. Like you look great. But I'm like, you know what? It's like the negative validate or the negative comments. Like also sometimes how much positive validation we get on the internet is not normal also. Yeah. So kind of like, I think it was probably a good idea for a moment to like step back if it's

It's fully, fully, fully. What is your advice for people who are bombarded with images on social media that make them feel bad about themselves? I was literally talking like I was dealing with this two mornings ago. It was I mean, I feel like every morning I wake up and I scroll through my Instagram. I'm like, oh, what's going on? And I feel like.

I get bombarded. I mean, I follow all the amazing models and like don't get me wrong love women literally love women but sometimes it like really messes with your head because you're like Oh like like you were talking about like oh my stomach doesn't look like that Oh, my boobs don't look like that. Oh like they're working out right now Oh my gosh, I haven't worked out today. Like I need to go work out things like that and I feel like my advice would to be

Social media that one picture is literally so constructed It's by a really good photographer. You have your hair done. You have your makeup done. You have your nails done That's not what I look like 24 7 even right now. I look like this maybe like a Like I don't even know how like not that often like I was doing my makeup and I was like wow I haven't put like a face of makeup on and like

few weeks I'm like this is weird but just kind of like people present themselves as like the best possible version of themselves so I feel like on social media you just gotta remind yourself like okay this was a split second on one time of their day

it's not real yeah everyone is going to present their perfect life and even think if you have an insecurity think about yourself what did you just post yeah a perfect looking exactly like that's like even the part that messes with my head because I'm like I'm doing the same thing I'm falling in the trap I'm posting these beautiful photos that I get back and I'm like oh my gosh I'm so excited to post this but it's probably detrimenting to like other people I'm like ah

So I get in my head about it. I'm like, I don't want like I'm kind of on like a boycotting Instagram right now because I don't want to fall into that. Even though I like very much I'm guilty of already doing it. But yeah.

Yeah. It's like a vicious cycle. Like I don't post as much as I used to definitely. Cause I keep having to remind myself like, wait, why am I posting this again? Like what, who is this for? Like what's the point of this? Yeah. So summer, like I said, wrapping it up, summer is upon us. Olivia, do you have advice for women that are just like trying to go live their best life in summer, but maybe are feeling a little insecure or feeling like they're not ready to like get

get out there and like live their best life because they're they're seeing things on social media and they're like I can't live up to that I mean I feel like honestly my biggest thing is like just do it I've even noticed when I first moved to New York I had zero friends I knew nobody besides my agent and I wasn't like this pickle for like an awkward three months because I didn't know anyone and I was like I have no friends and

I'm nervous to do anything. And then I just started like doing stuff and I would go to the gym and I would walk and go get coffee. And I would like honestly go to Central Park and like walk around. And it's like just crazy.

you'll be at the hot dog stand and you'll see the girl right next to you and she looks cool and I'm like hey like what's up like my name is Olivia and it's kind of like that situation it's way easier than people process and yes it's very anxiety filled but once you kind of like turn it as in especially New York City like that's I think that's great advice so many women write in being like I'm in a new city how do I make friends and like the fact that you're like yeah you literally just turn someone like hey I'm Olivia like yeah you're kind of right like a lot of these cities specifically are

Like, I know people have moved to Austin, Nashville. Like, so many people are moving to these cities. Chicago. And they're like, got no friends. Like, but we're all saying it. So just maybe try and introduce yourself and see what happens. I'm so excited for summer. Like, I'm going to Egypt. I'm like, oh. Olivia's going to Egypt. And I'm going to be on my couch watching your Instagram stories. No, you have not. I'm so excited for you. Honestly, congratulations on everything. Thank you. Like, getting off.

that swimsuit like it's just truly like I grew up looking at that shit oh me too I don't believe it's a dream I'm like wait I saw myself and I was like that's nope that's not me that's not me but I'm like have it in my I printed it out in like the huge form and I put it in my apartment so like I can look at it and be like that is me damn remember that Olivia yes happy pride month thank you Olivia for coming on thank you for having me

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