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#2240 - Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino

2024/12/10
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Joe Rogan: 节目开始讨论了用咖啡杀人,以及一个亿万富翁朋友和他的特工朋友们。讨论扩展到加州野火,高昂的保险费用,以及消防员的工作。Rogan表达了他对某些职业(例如特工)没有得到足够认可的看法,并与Avary讨论了加州野火和他们各自的经历。 Roger Avary: Avary讲述了他与特工们相处的经历,以及他们分享的各种无声无息地杀人方法,其中包括注射咖啡因导致心脏病发作。他还分享了他对加州野火的看法,以及他三次因野火而疏散家庭的经历。他谈到了他对消防员和警察的看法,以及他曾经目睹的暴力事件。他还讲述了他厨房起火并迅速得到消防员救援的经历,以及他曾经在录像带出租店工作时与顾客建立的深厚友谊。 Quentin Tarantino: Tarantino分享了他与Avary在曼哈顿海滩的录像带出租店Video Archives相遇的经历,以及录像带出租店倒闭的原因。他讨论了录像带出租店的盈利模式,以及大型连锁店如何对小型录像带出租店造成冲击。他还谈到了他们如何根据顾客的喜好推荐电影,以及他们如何从录像带出租店的工作中获得灵感,最终走上电影制作的道路。 Roger Avary: Avary详细描述了他如何从在录像带出租店工作的经历中获得灵感,最终走上电影制作的道路。他讲述了他制作第一部电影《杀戮佐伊》的经历,以及他如何将自己的旅行经历融入电影中。他还讨论了他与Quentin Tarantino的合作,以及他们如何决定制作自己的电影。Avary还分享了他对电影制作的看法,以及他如何看待艺术电影和类型片之间的关系。他讲述了他制作电影《杀戮佐伊》的经历,以及他如何克服预算和时间限制,最终完成这部电影。他谈到了他与其他电影制作人的合作,以及他如何看待电影制作的过程。 Quentin Tarantino: Tarantino讲述了他与Avary在录像带出租店工作的经历,以及他们如何从顾客的喜好中获得灵感,最终走上电影制作的道路。他还讨论了他们制作电影的理念,以及他们如何坚持自己的创作理念,不被好莱坞的商业模式所左右。Tarantino还分享了他对电影制作的看法,以及他如何看待艺术电影和类型片之间的关系。他讲述了他制作电影《低俗小说》的经历,以及他如何克服预算和时间限制,最终完成这部电影。他谈到了他与其他电影制作人的合作,以及他如何看待电影制作的过程。

Deep Dive

Key Insights

Why is injecting someone with caffeine considered an effective method for killing without leaving a trace?

Injecting a large amount of caffeine directly into the bloodstream can cause a heart attack. An autopsy would reveal caffeine in the system, but might not immediately raise suspicion, as caffeine is a common substance.

Why are houses in California becoming increasingly uninsurable?

Due to the increased risk of wildfires, insurance companies are either refusing to insure houses located near open spaces or charging exorbitant premiums, making them effectively uninsurable for many homeowners.

What incident occurred during the filming of Pulp Fiction?

A major Malibu fire broke out, raising concerns that Bruce Willis might lose his house. A TV was set up on set so the cast and crew could follow the news coverage.

How did overdevelopment contribute to the severity of fires in California?

Building houses in areas prone to wildfires, such as Malibu, adds more fuel to the fires, turning them into larger and more destructive events.

How did Blockbuster Video strategically target and attempt to eliminate competition from smaller video stores?

Blockbuster would identify the most popular local video stores in a town and open a branch nearby, often in the same shopping center, to directly compete and draw away customers.

What were the key challenges faced by mom-and-pop video stores that led to their decline?

The constant need to acquire new releases to remain competitive, limited shelf space, and the bulk-buying practices of large chains like Blockbuster created an unsustainable business model for smaller stores.

How did working at Video Archives influence Quentin Tarantino and Roger Avary's filmmaking careers?

Working at the store provided them with a film education, access to a wide range of movies, and a platform to discuss and analyze films with customers, shaping their tastes and inspiring their own filmmaking aspirations.

What was the strategy Tarantino and Avary discussed for making successful art films?

They believed that grounding their films in genre, particularly exploitation, would make them entertaining and accessible while still allowing for artistic expression.

How did Roger Avary's personal experiences in Paris influence the making of his film, Killing Zoe?

His encounters with a heroin-using friend and his observations of Parisian nightlife and the city's underbelly directly informed the characters, dialogue, and atmosphere of the film.

What event prompted Quentin Tarantino to leave his job at Video Archives and pursue a career in filmmaking?

A conversation with a friend who felt his life was stagnating working minimum wage jobs made Tarantino realize he needed to move to Hollywood and actively pursue his filmmaking dreams.

What advice did John Langley give to Roger Avary about pursuing a directing career, and how did Avary react?

Langley advised Avary to declare himself a director from the start, rather than working his way up through the ranks. Avary immediately quit his job and began telling people he was a director.

How did Roger Avary's car accident impact his perspective on life and filmmaking?

The accident, which resulted in a manslaughter charge and jail time, stripped away his career and material possessions. However, it also gave him a new appreciation for life, compassion for others, and a renewed sense of purpose as a filmmaker.

What is the main focus of Quentin Tarantino and Roger Avary's podcast, The Video Archives?

The podcast centers on discussions about VHS movies, covering various aspects from box art and trailers to the films themselves, often focusing on lesser-known or underappreciated titles.

Why did Tarantino and Avary decide to move their podcast to Patreon?

They wanted to avoid doing commercials and have complete creative control over their content, catering to a dedicated audience willing to subscribe for ad-free episodes and bonus content.

What differentiates Tarantino and Avary's podcast from other film discussion shows?

Their deep knowledge of film history, personal experiences within the industry, genuine passion for movies, and their authentic, unscripted conversations set their show apart.

What is the significance of Pauline Kael's rule for film criticism, and how does it apply to Tarantino and Avary's podcast?

Kael's rule emphasizes the importance of providing a compelling reason for the reader to engage with the writing. Tarantino and Avary achieve this through their passionate discussions, insightful analysis, and genuine love of film.

What makes the horror and science fiction genres particularly suitable for exploring cultural and sociological issues?

The abstraction provided by these genres allows for commentary on social issues without being overtly didactic, engaging viewers with entertaining stories while prompting reflection on deeper themes.

Chapters
Roger Avary recounts chilling stories shared by his acquaintance, Mikey, a former operator who shares various methods of assassination, including using caffeine injection to cause a heart attack. The conversation touches upon the challenges of surveillance and the difficulties of ensuring a clean getaway, even with professional skills.
  • Assassination methods shared by a former operator include injecting caffeine to cause a heart attack.
  • Surveillance challenges discussed, including gang attacks on surveillance teams.
  • Challenges of killing someone without leaving a trace are highlighted.

Shownotes Transcript

Quentin Tarantino is an Academy Award-winning writer, producer, and director known for films such as "Pulp Fiction" and "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood." Roger Avary is a Tony Award-winning director, screenwriter, and producer known for "The Rules of Attraction" and his collaboration with Tarantino on "Pulp Fiction." Together, they host the second season of their podcast, "The Video Archives," available now.

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