#2219 - Donald Trump
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The joe rogan experience.

right? All six years go. One of things I wanted to talk to you about, I wanted to play this, but we decided we shouldn't play IT because I could get copyright strike.

And we don't want to get the episode. We don't want anybody to have any sort of way to get IT down. But IT was the episode of view when you're on the view.

And I think that was two thousand and fifteen or two thousand six, like when you were running for president, right? And you SAT you ve got introduced as our friend donal trump. What golden gives you big hug and a kiss.

Joy bay hard gives you big hug. Barber wall tors gives you big hug. They all loved you.

They were all talking about how you are a you might be you might be conservative in your financial positions, but are very liberal socially. They are talking about you as such a favorable light. The audience was cheering, and then you actually started winning in the polls.

And then the machine started work and towards you. Yeah but it's there's probably no one in history that i've ever seen that's been attacked the way you've been attacked and the way they've done IT so coordinated and systematically when you see those same people in the past very favorable to you. Like Opera, when you want Opera show, she's encouraging you.

Last week I did one of our shows. I think maybe thursday, or right there was a big deal being on Opera show the last one. And I was like one of the air shows in that least that final week.

And I said, boy, we've come a long way since since that what was like? Well, at the concept that was really like two different lives, you know, I had A A very wonderful life, but I I wanted to do this. The apprentice was still going very strong.

We had twelve seasons, and we had actually fourteen seasons. Twelve years over that had a couple. Well.

they cancelled the apprentice when you were running for president. And correct?

No, they had all sure that I could do that. I was involved in that. And I I had enough of IT, and we did great.

I was doing great, but they wanted me to stay. They all came to see me. They said, we're going to give you a contract.

They wanted to extend my contract. Mark burnett is a great guy. Then they wanted to extend the contract.

Mark said, you're crazy. Don't run. Don't run. No, nobody gives a prime time. They said, you know, those of things which is probably true.

not for the month present.

for for running well, for running against twenty, some other people can turn to be eighteen, eighteen professional people, you know, mostly politicians. They said, who would do this? I think it's a lunch.

Are actually the heads of nbc came over the paul teligny. All the, all the top people came to say me, try and talk me out of me because I wanted to have me extend. The apprentice was doing well, like, so he was fourteen seasons.

IT was twelve years. We had one, two seasons where we had a double, which rather happens IT was just a hot shoe and um I said, yeah, I want to do this what happened is a previously like three years, four years before that, they did a pole. They admit romney and somehow they put me in a poll, and I blew everybody away.

I blew him away, which isn't that heart, Frankly. But I blow everybody away. And I said that interest, because I never really gave IT that much real thought. I thought about that, but never real thought. But I saw these polls were very good, and so I was thinking about doing IT then.

But I had a contract with the apprentice, plus I was building two big buildings at the time, and I wanted to make sure they get finish up properly. And as one of those thanks, the kids were just sort of getting involved, that very capable kids, but they were getting involved early on. So I did that.

I got them done. I had some very good successes, and I came on. And then I thought about IT for the next one after the romney disaster. And I ran in a one against Hillary that was quite an experience but IT was a different life because you're right, the view I was on the view many, many times and um they loved me just the way .

people would thought. I mean, even if people like criticisms about you, people that didn't like you, there was always fuel and stuff like that. But the reality was the thing turned on you when they found out that you're going to be president was very coordinated. And some people are catching on to that. Now there is a lot of people that were long time democrats like elon and bill, act men and all these different, very .

intelligent people.

And they, this one, I wanted to ask you, what was IT like when you actually got in? Because nobody, you really can prepare you for that. When you're running for president, you don't really know what it's going to be like when you actually get into office. Well, what did you think was going to be in office?

Or when I decided to run when you got in, I was so I was in and one and I was in the White house, essentially. Well, first of all, I was very surreal. You know, it's very interesting when I got chat IT wasn't surreal.

That should have been surreal. When I was lying in the ground. I knew exactly what was going on. I knew exactly where I was hit. They were saying, you were hit all over the place because there was so much blood from the ear, you would know that pet than any when .

they get the ear tour anyway.

So and I was think the other day when when that happened, I really knew where I was. I knew exactly what happened. I said I wasn't hit anywhere with the, with the presidency. IT was a very surreal experience. okay.

And what's day one life? You win. You get inaugurated. Holy shit on the president. Yeah.

that's what happened. So i'm driving down pencil vania avenue. I just built a building on pencil, you know, the hotel, the old post office IT was, we called the truck national, uh, hotel, and we solved IT to the world of historia.

And I was a wonderful thing. But i'm driving down on passing the hotel. You've never seen so many motorcycles. Police, military IT was a major thing. I got off really the first time I used air force one landed and we're coming down and they were IT was very big. Emit was incredible.

And we're going down pensylvania avenue in the opposite direction, you know? And Normally used to go in one way, and you, all of us say you're going in the other way. The street was loaded up and I wanted to go out and I wanted to wave to everybody.

But that wasn't smart. You know there is a little bit dangerous, right? And when you have watch like Kennedy and somebody who is right, but I really felt I at the love was so crazy.

And so I did get out of the car for a brief you, just for a very short walk. I thought I was very important to do. And milani a got out with a beautiful dressed that became sort of a step, but that I was, people loved IT in barren.

And we're walking down the street. But we're really got amazing. We get to the White house.

And now it's a little bit, little bit before dark, beautiful. And we went up to the presidents quarters, become the presidential quarters. And i'm standing in this beautiful hallway and it's funny.

Nobody ever talks about the White house is being beautiful inside. You know you think it's going to be everything going to be all metal doors. And so it's not it's so beautiful.

I made my money largely on luxury. The hallway is like twenty five feet, while the ceiling height every is so beautiful. But I was standing there and I said to the guys I wanted see the link and bedroom.

I had never seen the link and bedroom. I heard about the link and bedroom, and I was standing with my wife. I said, you believe this is the link in bedroom? I mean, IT was like I was IT was amazing because it's luck if you love the country.

But here you are, the link in bedroom and the bed you know who is very tall? He was six or six, which then would be like like barren, would be like barret. He's six night, but six with six he was very tall.

Then on top of that he there is he were that there IT is it's a long bed, he long gated bed, and because very, you know, people were shorter than you see, some of the chairs are very, very low to the ground actually. But he had a long bed and they had you had to get his burglar dress right on that, right under that. You can see that here.

But right there, the original version of, they get his burger address. And this is the original, and am looking. And I just looked around, I said, do believe this because I was never a first sal, even if you were a politician.

But I was never a politician, just, I sort of just started, right? I all of us said i'm standing and I house and IT was very, very surreal. That room was so beautiful to me, much more beautiful than IT actually, as you know, to me, when I looked at the bed, and the bed you could see was a little bit longer, had to be a little bit longer.

He lost his son, and they suffered. The two of them suffered from melancolia. They didn't call a depression.

They call IT melancolia. And they suffered from bit. He was a very depressed guy, and he was a very depressed woman, more so than him.

In the top of that, they lost their son, whose name was ted. ted. And, uh, IT was a just seeing IT in a little pictures, a little tiny picture. I mean, you can see the details, little tiny, everything, the way, a little tiny picture of ted, who he lost and IT was devastating. And he was, you know, he was lucky, was in a war.

He was, he was and he was having a hard time because he couldn't beat rob Robert lee, one like thirteen battles in a row, and he was getting like a phobia, like a fighter, you know that about the fight stuff. But like I went to A U fc. Fight and IT was a champion who was fourteen and one about a year ago.

You would know the names, fourteen in one. And the only guy lost, he was this one guy. But the guy that he was fighting was like, almost just an average final, lost numerous times, but he beat this one guy. So I said, okay, I really don't .

know who you talked about.

I will figure IT out o but about a year ago, but the point is that he lost, he wasn't nearly the fighters, so but the one who was not nearly the fighter had beaten. He the only guys beat the chip like five years before. And as i'll take the guy, that one, the other fight and that's what happened to .

be on a second time sometimes like what .

is this crazy thing um a link and had I don't know, i've never read this. I heard IT from people in the White house who really understand what was going on with with the whole life of the White house.

But lincoln had the ips about, in a way, as the golf would say, he had a photo bia about Robert least that I can't beat really, because Robert leave one many battles in a row he was just beating the head out of, you know they tried to get robbery at to be on the north but he said, no, I have to be with my state know the state was his whole thing and he went to the self and he was, um i've had generals tell me we have some great generals, the real generals, not the one you see on television, the ones that beat ISIS with me. We defeated ISIS in record time. We supposed to take years, and we did IT in a matter of weeks.

These are great general. He's a tough guy, is not work guys. But their favorite general in terms of genius was robbery.

took a big strategy.

strategic. He took a war. The child have been over a few days, and I was years of hell, a vicious war.

And so here I am standing there. And again, I had never really done this before. You know, I ran, I ran a number of months before I won.

I probably, I guess if you figured maxed IT out, that would be a year something like that. So I had never run for office, and I did well. I mean, I I went to debates with eighteen people, including me. And then slowly virally, they started to disappear. We have debates, good debates.

Everyone's wearing list up. But what I want to get to is like, what was the experience once you got inside? What did you think he was gonna like in terms of, like, your ability to govern? Yeah, like this is your first experience governing anything. You never been a governor, a major private, private business. But now, all the sudden, with the inside, the White.

the biggest thing was just the first moment of being in this hello, really hello place to me. IT was a real beyond to me, that that was experience. That was a surreal experience.

And then with time that wears off, with time that becomes, you know, you're a place where you stay. And, uh, I was doing a lot of, I was I had two things that I really focused on governing the country and survival. Because from the moment I won, before I got to office, all of us I am, they came down.

I mean, nobody has ever been treated that way. And and you see that, I mean, you see we're in the washington and post early, early and they said, well, now the impeachment stuff starts. And I did.

I mean, IT literally started for the big, so I had survival and run the nation. I had combination. Most people don't have the survival they get in ah what what did you expect .

them in terms of like once you got inside, you had a point, all these people like how many appointments have to make .

when you have actually actually ten thousand appointments. Now they're different. You have big one and then they are point right, one hundred people and two hundred people. But the president really is is involved with the proximately ten thousand appointments. So you're a point of secretary of state and he will he he will appoint a lot of people took a lot, but in terms of major ones, you probably have like a hundred, but they are big ones. Uh, treasury, state, uh, military.

And how did you know who to a point?

Well, I didn't. I had you, didn't you? So I go seventeen times in washington and I never stayed over, according to the press, which I think is probably right over the years, I was only the seventeen times I never stayed over.

So now i'm setting them up saying this places gorgeous, but you know I don't know about it's like you you know you go to certain areas. Another vries, there may be great. Washington was great.

Washington not so great right now. They're going to fix IT. We going to make IT Better, a very dangerous place, very badly maintained place.

We're going to make IT great. We're going to make IT Better. We going to bring you back. But I wasn't a washington guy, was a new york guy. I was a new york builder, and I I build buildings in new york, and I knew that whole world, but I didn't know that washing the world too well. And all of us said, you are supposed to be appointing to our people.

So what did you think I was going to be like versus ted? Did you have any ideas? What was going to be like and what was different?

What I was always involved in politics, but usually from the standpoint of a donor donor, I was a big donor. I gave money to politicians. I enjoyed poly democrat, right? Both really pretty much both. I actually pictures of an agent. And when I was .

a democrat lic what .

you uh I was a democrat um I could get you the exact but the the early nineties, the early nineties, I switched over eventually actually they had a reform party. I was talking about doing that for a little while. But then fortunately I am because it's very hot you know it's a two party system. And any time you hear a third party, I know you like r fk junior soda. He's a fantastic.

I do. But I thought that being an independent was not one.

IT doesn't work. IT doesn't work because even if you do great, you're not going to get congress another way. You need now to say, okay, now i'll get half of congress never going to vote for you so even if you got there, which is very hard and but and I know how you feel about Bobby and I feel the same way and he's now with us.

But IT IT doesn't real its experience simply to two party system, right? And uh, somebody I won't mention his name, but somebody y's spent two hundred and fifty million dollars trying to get the nomination as a reform party candidate or whatever, and they got nowhere. You get eat. You just get eating the system, eat you alive. So so IT was IT was really somebody that not only was new to washington, was new to politics.

So in in the office of the presidency over the years, as all as presidents, you've had ninety two percent were politicians and eight percent were general, generalizing our general washington, eric general judge washington, a general so it's eight percent or no animals, eight percent generals in ninety two percent politicians, you know their politicians and they go so they never had a business guy or they never had a guy that wasn't elected to an office um they were all like ron reagan was really he was a movie actor and then but he became the government of california I think two terms and then he ran, uh, so you d never had a thing like this but I you know, in terms of me and sometimes I use that as excuse and I don't like having excuse is actually but I use IT doesn't excuse. I had to rely on people that I respected or like, but that I didn't know that well because I didn't know them that well some of those people I campaigned against because, you know, we have eighteen people. We had mostly politicians running in the election, you running in the primaries, and they got knocked out one by one.

But I got to like some of them. Some of them I didn't like at all. I don't like him now, and I rely on them, and i'd rely on other people.

So all of people would come in. I'd like to recommend so and so to be secretary of state and have three, four people recommend. One thing I can tell you, everybody wants the position, of course.

No, no. But sometimes I here, a lot of people don't want to work with trump because trump is tough to worker. That's such a limited.

Everybody wants to be any one of these positions. They d die for IT, of course. Now they don't want to be known. I mean, is a particular guy in, uh, new york primarily very big, very big, very successful, very, uh, very strong, very political, although is not a political, he'd gave anything to be secretary but if they ask him, no, I don't think I would do that in the meantime begging for IT. Okay, begging they believe everybody.

Look, everybody is that but I, by the way, no matter what you do, every but it's very dangerous to pick somebody outside of a politician because a politician has been basically read for years, right? You pick a business guy and they've never been vented at all. And there you know the head of a big company or something, but they've never been vented.

You know nothing about his personal life. You know nothing about where he's been when you put them in is a little bit dangerous because all of a sudden they get checked up and you hear things that you say, wow, this is not onna work out too well so it's very dangerous. Picking, picking people that are outside of politics is somewhat dangerous. So you're kinds .

stuck in a position we have to pick, establish people. Then the problem established people is establish people already indoctrinated into the system and their slifers.

In many cases, these steps, the survivors. I find that, you know.

what do you mean by step s when you say steps.

steps, don't? They don't have. They have nothing, or their smart. And however, one one little thing.

So there was a congressman years before I ran, and I was very close to, and I needed a license on something, and he was very important and getting the license. But I was a little bit controversial, the license, this particular thing that was being licensed. But I was close to this guy and helped him in everything else.

And I went to my, said, like to have your help and he said, let me take a look at that I said, all, let's not too good, but I really hope you can help anyway. He tapped me along for a long party time and ultimately didn't do and and I said, you are a stiff. You could have done this thing so easy as such, but was controversial.

He was in congress for many years, like twenty eight years. And you know, there's a reason when somebody y's there for twenty eight years going to be sort of smart. And I realized he was a survivor.

And so they never do anything controversial. They never take any chances to speak their opinion. It's outside the yeah yeah.

And yet I don't disrespecting for us. So I actually respected the guy or know what he's been there like with. Twenty eight years and he made IT through a lot of people don't make .

IT through a good way for non exceptional .

people to survive. Well, certain ly.

so you you're in there, you have ten thousand appointments you have to make, so you're getting advice from people. And at one point, did you have a moment in time where you realize like these are bad choices, like some of these people shouldn't happen in there? Oh yeah.

I think so. The one question that you ask me, that I think you'll ask me that seem people seem to ask in, I always come up with the same answer if I the one mistake, because I did hate a lot of success, great economy, great everything. Everything was great.

We would. The military rebuilt biggest tax cuts, and this to all this. So we did.

We had a great presidency, three supreme court justice, as most people get none. You know, you pick up Young this way. They're there for fifty years, right?

So you know, even if a president is there for eight years, often times they never have a chance. I had three IT was sort of the luck of the draw. But I will say that IT always comes back to the same answer.

The biggest mistake I made was I picked some people. I pick some great people, you know, but you don't think about that. I picked Young people that I shouldn't picked. I picked a few people that I should a pet and new accounts, yeah, new accounts or bad people or just loyal people .

or people that .

were just people people .

address yeah.

I mean, look, I mean reading about them a little bit today, uh, a guy like Kelly, who is a bully, a bully, but a weak, a weak person, you know, you know more about bullies than anybody probably around because you deal with a the certain sport where the bullies are exposed very quickly.

Yeah but you know he's bed bottom was an idea, but he was great for me because I go in with a guy like a john bolton, you know, john bolton, the friend of I called called me up. I was picking boltt is a very smart guy. His name is filled rough and he's a very rich guy from last bag is one of he's a great card player.

He doesn't play cards but he's a great you know he's just a natural get poker sense right? You know all poker sense and fill rough inss is a very, very wise kind of a guy and very one of the richest people around and has had great success and understands people. So I was in that I was picking bolton or a pig bolt nab.

I said, don't pick him. He's a bad guy. Now he was in a politics at all. He's in various businesses. He said he's a bad guy.

He's just IT always works out bad with that guy I said, I wish you told me this two weeks I already hired him. You know, he's here and and he was right, but but he was good in a certain way. He's a nut job.

And every time I had to deal with the country, when they saw this weak job standing behind me, this at, oh, man trumps gonna to war with us. He was with bush when they went stupidly into the middle st. They shouldn't never done that.

I used to say, as a civilian, so I always got more publicity than other people and I didn't IT wasn't like I was trying. In fact, I don't know exactly why. Maybe you can .

tell me if you said a lot of wild shit, maybe it's a little wild shit CNN in there. All their brilliance by highlighting your wild shit made you much more popular, and they boost you in the polls because people were tired of someone talking in this bullshit preprepared politician lingo. And even if they didn't degree with you, they at least knew whoever that guy is.

That's him. That's really him. When you see certain people talk, certain people in the public guy, you don't know who they are.

You have no idea who they are. It's very difficult to know. They see them in conversations.

They have these preplanned answers. They say, everything is very rehearsed. You ll never get to the me of IT. What one of the beautiful things about you is that you freebase, like you get out, you do these huge events and you're just talking and you make we've highlighted on the show many times for you when you did this by impressions walk around IT doesn't always doing study.

It's it's stand up, it's funny, stop but it's like you you make on on and you on impressions, it's great. You have like comedic instincts. Like when you said the hilly, you'd be in jail. Like that's great timing, but it's like that kind of stuff was unheard of as a politician like no one had done that. And I think .

it's going you need at least the attitude of a comedian when you're doing this business. This is very dangerous business. First, it's a very tough business.

When is the most dangerous?

yes. Well, for job.

yes. I mean, other than going to more and a five fighter or A P it's .

the most dangerous, is the most dangerous, especially you I mean.

you haven't even got to the election has been two assassination attempts and they've brushed those out of the news like I .

was nothing talk about.

Imagine if there was a assassin tems on biden, how hard people would be attacking the right, how they would be trying to get guns taken away from people. They would try to rap up gun laws. They would try to figure out some way to blame you if there was a tax on if bind gut shot in the year, we would have never heard the end of IT.

But I think he's in good shape because it's only consequential presidents. If you take a look at what's happened, look, i'm for having countries pay as billions and billions and trillions, even dollars. I took in hundreds of billions of dollars from china, and nobody took in ten cents.

Not one of the president. I do things that make IT. I mean, that don't necessarily make me so popular.

I just do what's right. And when you do that, you know, you're more look at, look at a red. And we would have never had the attack on israel at all.

The rain was broke, I told china, if you buy, you can do business in the united states under any circuit. I was going to, we're going to go cold turkey with china. Some people think that would have been a good idea anyway.

But if you buy any oil, one barrel l of oil from them, you're not doing business. I said that to many countries, iran was broke. They had no money for hezuo had no money for hama's.

They had no but I make myself, you know I mean, I understand what i'm doing if you make yourself a target and it's a very dangerous business, but if you just look at statistically. So I said I sort thing, I don't know, it's right, but one tenth of one percent for a race car drive is pretty dangerous business, right? One tenth of one percent for a ball, right? I tell you to me, to these guys that write the balls is worse than you have see was, yeah, these guys that you see these big monster balls, and you see in slow motion where that the food is like, you know, an each away from the head of the hits of the guys gun, but they die.

you know that. So one one percent die.

Yeah one tenth of one person die, right? And they certainly hurt badly. I really I mean, they can't walk after certain period time. But but with the president, if you look at .

and and attempts .

to and attempts, no, it's a very dangerous position. I never thought of that. By the way, when I did IT, you know.

you don't tend to that. I just assume because people, the apprentice.

they were going to love you, as would be so .

probably would have been if the media didn't attack you the way they did, if they didn't conflate you with hitler, mean, even today, like combo was talking about you and hitler, they're gonna take what you said of a robot league, oh, donal truck south.

He loves, like.

they love to take things out of context and distort things.

but they don't even have to take them. They make them up entirely. Okay, they make but you know interest when you mentioned the I was very popular and and all those people love me. I mean this some of these these women that there's so stupid and a joy SHE would every time you see me like i'd been an the theater or something and you have to be on the show again, come, come on.

let's go. That episode, people should watch that episode, see what we're talking about. So we don't want to get a copy, your right strikes.

So we're not going to put IT up if you watch the episode. Its bananas is like an alternative universe and it's only nine years ago. You like you, gives you how can to kiss and help at the other.

the new one or the one from my administration. SHE writes me out of the greatest president. SHE leaves, and he worked as like as an assistant press secretary, hardly newer.

But SHE leaves and SHE write to me this gorgeous letter. What's her name? He was, I don't even know.

You know, SHE, anyway, he was in the administration. SHE is on now currently, sister, the far right hand side, whatever the hell name is. And he writes a letter, the most beautiful letter she's quoted in the paper. Er, he is a consequence. So he was the greatest pressure.

Ba ba ba, then all of the sense goes in the view, SHE said, hit her because they won't hire unless i've had many people go on CNN and they called that I don't know what to do when they wanted pay me a lot, but I have to be negative and you I should be negative. That's okay. There are guys on like CNN, they won't hire them.

Sean duffy is a no congressman, and he retired to get a good job with CNN. But he was only positive about trump. So they kept him, but they would never put him on.

I mean, I respect what he did. He got to go, you know, negative. I tell people, go negative. Let my friends make the money. Well, it's so cricket, the Price cricket.

it's cricket. But it's also they are diminishing themselves are they're killing all the credibility and it's opening up the credibility to new media. It's open up the credibility to independent media.

The the and i've seen the worst and i've been a part of IT. I've been i've seen the worst comma goes on. Sixty minutes gave an answer that a child wouldn't give.

IT was so bad. And sixty minutes took the answer out. They took the whole and they put .

another answer in.

which didn't make you see that, but I was Better. They took the wasn't editing IT was fraud. This was not editing. You know editing is where i'll give an answer and y'll take a couple of words and change or they might even take a sensor too, which is very bad, but that's it's too little bit. You know, I give an answer which was a very good answer I always talked about, you know, I like to give wrong the weave. You yeah.

you like to weave things.

But when you do the weaves and you have to be very smart to do with when you do the we've look at just in this one thing, we talk about little pieces. No, no IT comes back, yeah for the right people, for the wrong people that doesn't come back home and they end up in the wilder is right. But but they can take my answer.

And you know what, they may take a little piece of an outer up and they use the term, yes, we want to save time. Well, it's out, but i've never heard. I think it's the biggest hand on the broadcast history.

What happened to see? And cbs, we have C, B, A, sixty minutes. That's a news program.

It's not an entertainment program. It's under the news is ahead of their news thing. SHE gives an answer that was that shows that he is essentially incompetent. And they took the answer. Could you imagine doing?

We can show IT if you want people to see. We know we get in trouble. We will get copyright strike. Okay, but it's it's drastic. But I was on interesting was the other full version was available .

initially. I .

was .

like a preview, a problem exactly.

And then they got caught by mistake. Well.

I don't you think that's a bit to me. And don't forget, this is election interference and fraud and IT sixty minutes. It's their news division.

So they will. They give those licences. Jo, for free. They should pay fortune. They worth a fortune.

They give him out for a free because they are using the public airwaves with cable. You don't have that cables different, but know it's just a different deal. But with the networks, they give those less. They worth billions of dollars. They give me, but you have to be honest.

And all that was been, I think, that David myer, and that woman, that was a sign I never heard of her, but they kept interrupting me, was like I said, how many people are my debating here? I got this one and I got youtube, but he went up to me eleven different times. You know, it's interesting. I always thought he was a nice guy, but he's just like the rest of them.

Well, that is job unfortunate, and i'm sure you're right. Well, the problem was they checked you and they didn't fact check her. And what was the greatest examples of that was when he said that there is, there are no troops right now deployed in war zones.

There's a very famous viral video that went online of troops in a war zone saying, well, what the fuck are we then? Because there's thousands of them. Dad cranch a, the congressman h posted on his instagram all of the various examples of troops that are deployed, thousands and thousands of troops that are currently developed.

Py, but the point is, if this is going to be an actual, real debate and not a propaganda exercise is going to be a real debate, you have to fact check everybody. So if someone that makes he thought there was no, which is also a problem. So it's one of two things. It's either IT was not true, a lie on purpose, which is terrible, or IT was the opposite IT was ignorance, which is also terrible.

What you know, when I said crime is showing, he said, no, no crime has gone down. I said, wait to hear that one crime is gone down. I mean, i'm debating with this guy.

but i've had where there was amended FBI statistics that came out after that, they showed the crime had gone up substance.

By the way, the statistics were fraud because when they put out the statistics, they didn't include some of the worst places. They didn't include some of the worst cities, some of the most deadly Prices. But when the real numbers came out, I turned out to be right. But I.

you turned out to be right than another problem. Unreported crime is way up because people have lost, look, the morale that the police department has in a lot of these cities where they have done as defund the police. Bullshit these the moral is bore cops.

It's fucking horrible. It's the dam idea time. But what they've done is they've ve made these cops feel terrible.

They like good cops. I think cops are just like everybody else. Most of our great, it's like everybody else.

But if you run into a one carpenter, he doesn't shitty job in your house. He say, carpenter, fuck and suck, but they don't suck. Most of them migrate and they keep you with cops.

But the point is like they did all of these things in this very foolish way, and these cops are self in the consequences of. And so subsequently, what happens is a lot of crime is unreported. A lot of crime like call the cops, they are too busy. The kinney get you or your house cup broke into, sorry, know IT doesn't even make a report. There's a lot of people that .

they just give up. It's so sad what's happened. And i'll tell you what, I go to police funerals and we went to one and long hand.

I visited the family and long on the very big deal. It's so dangerous. People don't rose the car, dark windows pull over is a gentleman.

Please pull over. Door opens. Guy comes out firing even if they were allowed to pull out the gun, which they're not.

The kt, yeah, they still wouldn't. Every every nightmare, they open the door. Then he was killed and his partner was hurt. He was killed. You don't have I mean, you don't even have an eighth of a second to think.

And IT is such a dangerous job that in particular think if if you go up to a car, you don't know who sitting there with a gun, and if they have a gun, you really don't have a chance, you're not allowed to have you gone out. By the way, they're very strict rules. So number one, there are IT.

But even if you could have you gone out, the door opens in a guy and bullet start firing a and especially where they have the dark windows, where they have the dark and windows. IT is such a dangerous profession. And it's very hard to get cups now because they they are not given any backup.

And you're right, you can you know they have like an eight of a second to make a decision that's gonna change their life. If they make the wrong decision, they can end up on the front page of every newspaper in in the country. And they are going to lose their house and their pension and their their job and their wife is gonna gone.

And everything is thing people talk about how many of them have? Sd, probably most of them. These guys are seeing people shot all the time.

You know, i've talked to a tonic rops about IT. And you know, a lot of cops commit suicide. A lot of cops are deeply depressed.

A lot. We have to give them back. They are dignity.

We have, we can. We just have to give them back. You said, it's so good, you never hear. So anybody said that you never going have a perfect you've going to have a bad .

apple in everything, in every profession.

But every time there's a bad apple that is massive publicity and IT IT taints everybody.

But it's also this very irresponsible thing where people say, defund the police, get rid of the police, even combat haris. Apart of that, that it's a, it's a very stupid way to look at IT. What you do is fund the police.

You should have Better training. You should have cops that feel more appreciated. You should have some something that helps mitigate this. P, T, S, D. At all of them suffer through .

SHE was a big part of defending the police. That was a big thing for her. Defended police, always defend the police.

What was in a political a.

but anybody with their political thought, I don't think should be running for president. And I think people are getting worse stood. You know, we don't pretty well now. I don't know.

Maybe in a week from now, I say sorry about that, I was wrong, but we're leading everything and I think we're going to have a very good election. But I tell you, because people are starting to get to nowhere. But SHE was defined.

The police, he was. All these trains, agenda Operations. You know, if you wanted a sex change and you were in detention and you demanded a sex change, they would give you a sex change where .

the wild this one is, this idea of giving free sex change to illegal immigrants this .

way in detention.

that is, the wild. Is that the biggest problem you have? You just walked here for guatemala need to become a girl.

but he is in favor of. So think of IT. SHE was now SHE changed. SHE changed fifteen policies. In fact, i'm going to send you .

a magic cap. All your idea about no tax for tips.

I came up with this idea that honestly, nobody ever heard of. And now IT took her two months. But you know what? All obvious? Ly was caught fire and you just put IT IT into a little speech and well but I think I think we still have that issue.

I think that issues. But um now we have a lot of good issues. You know we had the the other day.

Think of how simple some of these things we're trying to get. Cars built in the in arted sea, detroit has been really tough. It's been a disaster. They have a huge factor. Huge car order plant being built by china in mexico, make car sellem on in the united, put everybody business right here we go again.

I said, if that plant is there were on president, I will put one hundred or two hundred percent turfs on every car theyll be unstable in the united states. And they just announced not going to build the plant because they think i'm gonna to think of IT, they're not going to build the plant. This was the biggest plant in the world. IT would have more than all of michigan mix. That's how big you know, this is what we're get to.

And I said, if that plane goes up, I want them to understand if I win, i'm going attacks those cars at the rate of one hundred or two hundred percent of peace so that you won't be able to sell in the united said they just announced and not going to build the plan yeah, I did a big favor for our country by doing that, and i'm not even there yet. To me, the most beautiful word, i've said this for last couple of weeks in the dictionary today, and any is the word tariff is more beautiful than love. More beautiful than anything is the most beautiful. Tiful word, this country can become rich with the use, the proper use of tariffs. Did you just float .

out the idea of getting rid of income taxes and replacing IT with terrace? Well, okay, we serious .

our yeah sure. But why not? Because we really our country was the richest in the eight relatively in the eighteen eighties and nineteen nineties, a president who was assiniboia icenway, he was the tariff king. He spoke beautifully of terrorist is is language was really beautiful.

And we will not allow the enemy to come in and take our jobs and take our factories and take our workers and take our families, unless they pay a big Price and the big Prices turfs. And he speak like that, but he was right. And then around in the early one thousand nine hundred hundred hundred hundreds, they switched over stupid related, Frankly, and income tax.

And you know why? Because countries were putting a lot of pressure in america. We don't want to pay, please do you know? I believe me, they control our politicians.

If you look at the kind of numbers that these guys make then and now, but we had a commission meeting in the a eighty, I think, was eight and eighty seven. Think of this problem. We were so rich, we had so much money, we didn't know what to do.

So they set up a blue ribbon commissioner tariff s and the sole purposes, what to do with all the money we had, we were so rich because we were taxing other people for coming in and taking our jobs. And china, is that what china is? If you want to open a factory and sell, cause if you build a factory here, have a factory, they don't take our cars.

They wouldn't take our cars. But if you build a plant in china, you can do that. Elon did that.

By the way, elon is great. That guy is such a great guy. I think you're a fan.

He is from a different planet. He's the greatest guy that rocket coming. And yeah, I I told the story once at twice.

So you might have ve heard that because these speeches have been good. Did you see the one last night? Yeah, twenty nine thousand people.

I was a yeah, and the one the night before, which was the same thing. We are, we are rocking and roller. But but elon, i'm talking to this very important guy.

I say i'm looking at something the television on mute, read and I see this is racket, so Brown from the heat, you know, cups ten thousand degrees, pouring down at thousands of miles. And and I see this thing is like a twenty story building, and IT catches. I said that this goes an important guy.

We mean, let me just put you to hold. I get to see this, and I see this, and it's onna crash, and it's gonna crash into the gentry. They call the gentry as, oh, man. That's gonna be a disaster because I starting to get very clear. And then all of us that you see the flames and about a rare in a bomb, and then you see the two arms grab crazy.

And I forgot the guy I had a the from, I forgot, no, I said, no, I called the one I said, was that you? He said, that was me and I said, who else can do that? He said, nobody russia can do IT the united states, nobody can do IT.

You know, I set up spaceforce. That was me. And that's the first time in eighty two years that we opened another branch since the air force.

And that's going to be one of our most important things. But think of what he learned is, and he did one other thing that I never heard of, IT, it's starlink. I went down to north CarOlina and georgia, the different places, right? I followed IT right down, and they had no communication.

The polls role knocked down everything. And one of the guys in north CarOlina, I said, could you do me a favour? You know, elan musk is.

He endorsed, by the way, gave the ice's endorsement to this. The tougher he said, the country is gonna failed. You should do the same thing.

You, because you cannot be voting for calla calla. You're not a camera person. I know you and watch you.

I know him Better than you. You know what? Without speaking to you, I think I know you maybe almost as well as your wife.

I have watched you for so many years. You're not a camera person. You're a cab person, but you're not a camera person.

nobody. He's going to know who cab is. But he he was, he was not bad, right? He was foment.

But he said before we finally .

with so they said, they said, could you get him? But we need starling, and I could, elan, he got IT for him so far, saved so many lives. And I said, how was that? They said, Better than the wires. You know, they couldn't put them in. They were all, they were all gone.

I used IT recently, and you do in .

the mountains.

did you find a phenomenon? It's the size of a ipad. You set IT down on the ground. You get high speed internet.

It's incredible. We're spending just to show you, we're spending a trillion dollars to get cables all over the country right up state areas we have like two farms, and they are spending millions of .

the time we talk about the four million dollars that was wasted on this internet access program. United didn't get anybody.

They have. They haven't hooked up one person.

not one person. They had forty two billion dollars. They could have gotten star links .

to everybody with that of money.

Almost nothing. Yeah, for incredible. And that everywhere you want to go .

wanted to do that. I want to to do. How about this? They built the charger stations right in the middle st.

Mid west. They built eight of them. They cause nine billion doses like a gas bum prit.

They built nine gas pumps, except electricity comes out. They spent nine billion dollars. Three of them don't work. The whole thing. There's so much waste I I could see here, tell you about things that that there is so much waste, abuse and fraud oh.

this yeah i'm i'm sure I mean, I think everybody.

let's get back to .

you talking about one of the criticisms of your administration was with tax cuts and with tariff s, you increase the deficit. So was the what was the strategy behind that? And did you think I was gna increase the deficit, but I got identity among.

okay, we were ready to rock. IT was all, you know, I had a bad system. We had horrible tax policy.

I made a great with a much lower tax rate. So I took IT from almost forty percent down to twenty one percent. Now i'm bringing from one to anyone, down to fifteen.

But only if you make your product in the united states, which is great. People call me. This is what a great idea. Nobody ever heard that before. I don't care if they make the product in japan.

Why should I give up? So it's a twenty one that at twenty one in the first year, we took in much more revenue than we did IT, almost forty. Think of that inspired.

Now we had other things too. We were able to get people to bring back your money. You couldn't you couldn't bring back your money if you had money in europe like apple.

Apple had many billions of dollars outside. They couldn't bring IT. There was no way to bring you back in.

Um the bureaucracy, the documents, all thing. And also the tax was too high. You know, they wanted like half at or something.

Nobody y's going to do that. So they leave their money in japan and and they spend their money there. That was part of what I did.

The money came pouring back in. Apple took in hundreds of billions adults. They brought IT back from overseas. They brought IT.

So how does the deficit increase?

Because so what happened is this, we were ready to rock and roll, and then we had to cover at them, and we had to focus on that. And if we didn't give some businesses ahead, they would evolve. You would have had a depression like in one thousand, nine and two and nine.

But we were ready to start. We were going to, we would have very shortly been paying off debt. You know, we have thirty five trillion dollars in debt and and i'll never forget that we were IT was talking about from, you know, the standpoint of being an office.

I'm in the overall office and I have join my lock land and fabio, the two very good pollsters. Finally, I know I would say the two best, who knows, but very good polishers. And we're starting think about running for a second term and we had the greatest economy in history. Never has there been an economy.

And you attribute that to lowering yeah.

a lot of areas, two things. And also, I cut regulations more than anybody else. And if I ask many of the business men, you from the big company is, you know, the guys running the big company is, let's say, so if you had your choice, you've had IT now for a long time.

What's more important, you the tax cuts, you paid less tax or the regulation cuts, every one of them said the regulation cuts meant more. Who would think that right? Cause you know equated as but IT actually has more dollars.

Um we had IT going and then we just had to focus on something else. But there were still new. These two pulsars were sitting there and they said there, if George washington came back and Abraham lin was his VP is opposed to walls.

How bad is heat by the week? But if Abraham linking was his VP, they couldn't beat you. You have a, and I never forget that the following day they said, something's happening in china.

Her, could we meet? So what's happening? People are dying. And I was all around the wall hand lib, by the way, there are pictures with little lines, their body bags all around the world on land.

And I always said after the beginning, jo was, you know, they tried to say, first I head, I was francon. They blamed everybody, but then they say, was batcave two thousand and miles away. So we got hit with that.

And despite that, we had the best economy. And when I gave IT over, the stock market was higher than I was very IT. I mean, nobody could even believe IT, but we saved IT and we were helping businesses. They were dying.

So it's your belief that if you had a second term, given the policies in place, the way the economy was booming ing, that you would have been able to pay off a lot of the dead. If we didn't have covered.

we would have been paying off that and we would have had and don't forget by growth, the word growth is actually more important way because you could have the same debt. But if you doubled a growth, all of a sudden you're under levered. But still we should pay off that.

You know, you view this thirty five trillion dollars, right? 这样 做了。 But if you look at the asset value, if you look at a purely as an asset value, we have oil underground, we have water, we have mountains, we have I mean, the assets are so enormous.

But regardless of that, we've got thirty five trillion in debt. We should pay IT off. And we started paying off that and probably even giving further given further tax reduction.

I want to get IT down to fifteen percent. We're going to do more business. But when you get hit with a covet, everything stops and you have to keep these business and alive, that businesses were dying. I mean that we're just dying this whole place.

this country is going to die. Other influences um outside of environmental that keep people from wanting to drill for oil and frying and and do those sort of things outside of the environmental concerns which are legitimate course. But when are there other influences that may be over accentuate or over exaggerate these environmental effects? Are people being influenced away where they are trying to keep us from producing american oil?

Yeah yeah. So the environment is the biggest tool for stopping growth. The biggest tool. The other is regulation. And if you speak to elan, he said the regulation now to send a rocket up to anywhere, if you do everything, it's it's almost it's becoming impossible. But they use environmental in order to get people not to do anything.

And sometimes I say, you know, I look at some of the, I know the environment, because I had to build buildings in new york, I had to build, I had to do environmental impact studies. And I would see somebody, y's guys that are hire for a lot of money, environmental that would get you through the process. And they're up in urban if that's the capital of new york.

And they are they're trying to make IT tougher for guys like me that were builders because they get paid more money in on the words I had one guy highly recommended. All you know, I was good at getting permits. I was one of the kings of.

I was always very good. But the environmental staff was always horrible. They could slow a project down ten years, fifteen years.

I had a project in Louisiana, big L N G plant IT was, uh, for fourteen years he was gonna eighteen million, eighteen billion hours, one of the biggest that like the empire e APP and lying down at the side times four massive and the coast on the gulf coast and they said, so they're onna, give you up. I said that they shouldn't IT up. What's the problem? They can get their environmental.

They had environmental permits that would fill this whole room up to the ceiling. And they said there was one mistake on one little sign. They want him to do IT all over against not going to happen. And I got them their permit instantly and they built a plant is massive.

So when you're saying that, so there's people that are making money by making IT difficult are going to make about lawyers.

just talking about environmental .

and environmental consultants profit off of dragged out the process.

And I make the process how, and I probably do the same thing about with them, to be honest with you.

I want to be honest with .

how do they do that? How do they make IT york, okay? And they convince people that if you have a certain type of plant on the ground that this big in, in theory, valuest, that is a rare plant and you can not ever even touch that, you can go near IT.

You can put a building on IT, you can do anything or there's a little pudding and they call a lake. And you have to go by the standards of a lake. I said, no, no, that's a puddle.

You have no idea. Guys are filling a little poddles. You have no idea what they do. So and they use IT as a way to stop you.

They use as a way to stop you and also is a way to generate money, how they're generating money. That way though, they get face, they get face, massive face. And people rely on them as experts because they are the people that they go to when they have .

to run these studies in the first. But some are in more, more different.

They R I, yes.

I think they maybe had more. They didn't have as much with me because I would get through them. And I understood IT.

Look, i've had, i've done so many. They got environmental impact study. I did so much to build a building.

To build a building in new york is very tough. You be very, you got to deal with. Think of IT financing union, all the municipal staff, environmental of all of IT.

To me, the tougher thing was the environmental, because they could stop you cold with the environmental impacts. Studies self and and you deal, you hire a so called expert. They say, sir, he's the one guy.

He can get you through the moras. It's a moras. It's horrible. They use that as a weapon. They use IT all over the country.

But there are legitimate concerns about environmental impact. And I look about the bp oil spill. There's a lot of things that do happen that are environmentally devastated. You want to mitigate that as much possible.

I had during our four years, we had the cleanest air in the cleaner water. I feel differently. I say air and water, remember, this IT costs much more to do things environmentally clean.

China doesn't do anything right when kerry goes to see, uh, president SHE at china, which he probably doesn't even get to see him, but they look at him, oh yes, yes, we will do. Oh yes, yes, we're going to do that. No more call.

No more just and then they approve fifty eight coal plants for the next know every they build a coal plant a week, they build a lot of coal plants. But let me just say you though. So here we are, cleaning at scrubs.

everything. And everything is got in the years, got to be pure. But in three point eight days, that stuff letting over china is right over the top of us.

right? Same thing with the oceans. They dump their garbage into the pacific ocean.

If you take a little core and put IT there in about a weekend ahead, it'll be in front of los Angeles. We're picking up their garbage. So nobody ever talks about that.

But in a way, the bigger one is even the air. It's occurrence. It's an amazing thing. It's been flowing that way for million years along before.

long before we whole world. No.

no.

If we have a dust clouds over here, absolutely. We get dust clouds in all set from the sahara desert.

But we get to china know they called the china course. We get to china curse. They're Better and the air is dirty.

You know, when I went there, um I had a great relationship with president. We ve got a lot very well and they treated me Better than anybody he has ever been treated. Same thing was. So they back up a number of a, but they laid out and I said, this air is good. You know, they closed every factory one week before I got there from within two hundred miles.

That's like what gave news .

of did when jeezy pain came to seven to think, you know, he cleaned IT up and then he became a pixi dome.

Thing is, he said, when your friends come back, when you have visitors, you clean up your house like about, just keep your pluck and house clean and you know, it's the dumbest thing I ever heard everybody say ever as a governor, is to excuse to why you finally cleaned up your homeless problem.

And the day he left right back, he went right back. But in a way, that was a bad thing that he did, because he showed what a disGrace that was, what a disGrace.

Well, this is the thing that like, shows you how foolish a lot of these people that are run in these cities think. A lot of people that are run in these states think it's it's foolish. Like you, you're insulting the intelligence of the people that live in that city that are impacted by these people just camping and needles and human feces.

There's an art that you can buy. There's an APP that you can get rather that you will show you where the human feces has been documented in santiago. It's a poo APP and it's everywhere, just bump crap everywhere.

But let me give you one that you may not know. Okay, which I think you know everything actually as a student, as a student of years. But but water, you know, in last Angels, you can get proper amounts of water, right? And it's unbelievable expensive.

And you might have a house in beverly hills and they're actually thinking about rationing water, can you believe IT? And I was in I was in the farm court country with some of the congressmen were driving up highway. And I say, how come all this land is so barren? Its farmland and IT looked terrible, was just Brown and bad.

I said, but there's always a little corner that's so Green and beautiful. They said, we have no water. I said, do you have a drought? No, I don't have a drought.

I said wasn't, you have no water because the water isn't allowed to flow down. It's got an natural flow from canada all the way up north water, more water than they could ever use. And in order to protect a tiny little fish, the water up north gets routed into the pacific ocean, millions and millions of gallons of water.

It's pred. You got to see this with driving up. And I had never seen that before.

It's the most like I OA. It's the most ferland. I was blessed with great land.

I do hope for a potato, right? But these, they are just, by the way, you know, some land is good for a potato. Some land is good for court and is a crazy st thing.

I love the farmers that great. They are the greatest. And by the way, they're getting killed right now. They are getting killed because of the stupid administration. But so I see this and I said, you got to be killing I said, you mean you have water and I looked at IT it's like a valve in your sink. Accept its massive the things five times toler than your ceiling did.

You know the center of california was a giant lake.

They have so much .

ever see what that looks like before they responded. The center of california, like was two hundred years ago. How long would they do that, Jimmy? The center of california had a fucking enormous lake in the middle california, dumped into who knows what they did. Whatever fui lead to the there are.

Now think of those dry forests that burn down all, you know, the head of austria said.

you know, two layer lake or touchy lake. It's the fresh water lake in the southern sand walking value united states. Historically, a to layer lake was one of the largest fresh water lake west.

The is show photo what you look like back then. It's a greatest. So that's what IT looked like. Look at that image now. The one, go to the one of .

the third .

from the right. Yeah, yeah. That was an human beings screw.

They let you go into the pacific.

And I don't know they do that. Why did how did they go missing?

Yeah, they .

joined nineteen one, nine hundred and eighty three. Oh my god, went dry a hand times. Well, likes to go drive.

That's a big one. But take a big one. You could .

have all of the water you need. All of that land would have more of water. The whole thing could be like that little patch, literally, i'd say, as dead known as a congressman and other congressman.

We were going out. I was visiting that because they has been to go up and visit their territory. And I did.

But I kept a look at, this land is beautiful, but it's so dry. And I thought that they would be going to like a desert, like a dress. They said, no, we have water.

But he gets. So I looked into and I got IT done. I got IT done. I could have water for all of that land, water for you forest, you know, you forest and dry as a bone, kay, dangerous. That water could be routed.

You know, you could have everything, oh, dangerous, billions of those as year they spend on forest, forest. And you know there's a case with the environment, they're not allowed to rake their forest because IT allowed to touch IT. When a tree falls down after eighteen months, IT becomes very judge like, you know, like real firewood is span, you know, a tree that's up.

These are all things I learned the hard way, the easy way. But when a tree is up the socks, water is wet. I went to the heart. They had a couple of horrible forest fires in california. And I went, I said, you know, you had a lot of trees standing yesterday were healthy trees are, I said, with this intense heat that you can see there would charge a little bit in the bottle, but they're going to be all right, because they are soaking wet, because they suck up the water, right? But when they fall, they're like, you is like lighting a match yeah and you've got to be able to clean, they call, maintain you with the head of austria, he said, you know, to shame, I see all those forests fires in california, and all they have to do clean their forest, meaning make IT up. Get rid of the leaves, get rid of leaves at sitting there for five years.

and they certainly .

get rid of the dead fall and get rid of the trees that have fall and are like so many things, this kind of, by the way.

could you the forest? I don't think you could read the whole forest.

I get king .

environmental.

They don't want to do that. They said you it's got ta be nature and all this stuff. But in the meantime, this is exactly but you could have so IT was the department of commerce that needed the approvals, but Gavin news had assign him.

I got IT all done. Nobody could believe IT IT was all done. I said, I got IT. You got so much water, all you have to do is sign. And that guy didn't want to sign.

Did he not want to sign? Because that would be a political Victory.

I think he didn't know. I don't think so. He you know he used to say he's a great president that we get along. We did. We actually got along at that point.

But I think somebody said you just can't continue to call him a great president, you know, they do say that, but we had IT all done. He didn't sign and that we got to other things. And I every time I go to caliphs, you said, you have so much water, they don't know IT.

I'm told you people living in beverly hills y turn off the water. Same thing with the electric. They want to go to all electric cars, but they have brand us every weekend.

you know. Well, right after they made the announcement that as of twenty thirty five, you're not going to able to buy an internal condition and engine in california, like within a month they had some announcement asking people to not charge their tesla because the grad could handle IT.

But I will terminate the Mandate of media. This, a Mandate that will be done, I would say, in my first day.

maybe two days, because you let nuclear one, one of things that when i've talked to people that have a real understanding of nuclear power, what their position is is probably the cleanness safest form of electricity that we could generate.

And that the fears of nuclear power are really about a few disasters, the foot ash ma through my island um these these are old systems and they get they're much more capable now and they're capable making even Better systems. But it's a difficult political issue because you think nuclear power, you think your noble, that's what everybody does. They have this connection that .

the potential to the for three thousand years. But I think it's worse than that.

I think that areas like going to be radioactive for probably longer than you can imagine. But the the point is they're Better at IT now, right? And that they can do IT now and you can generate power in a way that you don't have to worry about this. One of the most ridiculous things is electric cars being powered by coal fired plants is a ridiculous thing that yeah, that is what time and people want to think they're being Green. no.

But it's well, if that you look at the way the battery is but but he is the other thing we don't have what we do actually is being held. You know we have certain areas where we have great raw earth, erik, and would not allowed use to because of the environment. And we have areas in california that have incredible road earth and they're not allowing. And i'm going to open IT up. I'm going to let you use IT.

But how do you do that? china? How do you do that and protect the environment?

Because the environment is gonna be protected. You can do, you can make a leg at of IT. Okay, we'll put back a leg. I mean, something nice about like, you can do things .

magnificently. You just to absolutely .

have to do IT carefully. But the problem, you know, china has all of those areas, most of those areas. And yet when they say go electric with the cars, china is going to be the one that gives us the cars, all of those guys and detroit, they going to be had a business.

You going to make your electric cars over there. We have thing called gasoline, and we have more oil and gas under rapid than any other nation. You know, I had a in alaska is a find.

It's called and war. I got to approve. Reagan couldn't get IT.

Nobody could get IT. I got IT all done. IT was amazing. They were getting ready to start drilling the equivalent. They think of saudi arabia.

One of the biggest finds in the world was also to go and bitten comes in his one of his first orders were when I got to use IT. IT would have been so good for the we could have supplied all of asia with oil. And and you talk about money, right? The negative was politically they didn't.

That was good for them. That's that's all.

So you don't think that it's environmental danger .

taking IT from way .

down th I I can be done with environment. Well, I think windmills. Okay, so they talk about dis. I think windmills are really disruptive. When you talk about the environment, they killed the birds. You want to see a bird emetel go under a windrow someday that has been been cleaned out with all the bird car casses you like massive amounts.

also massive. I saw I went to arrange in self texas. We had to drive pass this enormous win dma e farm.

It's gross. It's disobey. You're looking in the left. In the right. Oxes is big spinning machines that aren't even that effective at generating .

the most expensive form of electricity is a windmill. And then they start to rest and rot, and you have, and then they get abandoned by the people that built them.

But you have to get rid of all that material too, when you replace those blades. Now you have a problem because you have to expose, right? You have to dispose these enormous windmills as .

they say you can't bury them. So I even question that, but i'm not going to get into IT. But they say you can't bury the about so you have the blades and you can't bury the blades.

You can bury the blades is not going Better. You can bury that you're fun areas you can bury, but they come up. This is what I mean, they come up with this.

But the environmental dream is windmills. Everyone, you know what happens to him. After to five years, they start to run. After ten years, you have to replace him.

Did you ever look at certain parts of california, a, where they have heavy wind mills and they're been abandoned and the all different manufacturer and all different companies? And the IT is the ugliest thing. IT looks like a graveyard, almost a graveyards of windmills.

It's pollution is so bad, it's in the ocean is no different than leaving garbage on the ground.

How about in new jersey of the cost of new jersey, they want to build that. People are going crazy not to build them, but we have them. The whales are washing up on, sure, right? So in fifty years they had one whale come assure. Now they had like eighteen come until last year.

What what is happening with the whales?

I've read about this. They say that the wind drives me crazy. It's a vibration. You know that fifty story .

buildings, super .

vibrates, the russia, the things are blowing is a vibration. And IT makes noise. You know what IT is? I want to be a whale.

sychar. st. IT drives the whales frequent crazy. Yes, something happens with them, but for whatever reason, they getting washed up.

And sure. And you know, and yet the environment, but the environment I don't talk about, I think there's nothing ugly. I see IT in scotland.

I see IT all over the world. You have this beautiful values been, therefore in civilization, thousands of years, but millions of years. And all of us say, you have these ugly windmills up.

Would your playing to be replaced out with nuclear?

What would you do? Well, nuclear is Better. I mean, I think this a little danger, nuclear, but you know, we had some really bad nuclear, but they did one in alabama.

They did one in, I think, south CarOlina. They do him wrong. They build these massive things.

Then the environmental getting, I don't want to go to a long story because it's too long for the show. This show is too valuable to talk about concrete, but they have hardened concrete. It's number twelve, concrete.

It's as hard as it's harder than steal is incredible. They put up a wall and inspector comes along those that you're quarter an interview. The war might be eight feet wide.

You're a quarter an inch too. Shirt t. I'm so you got ta ripped down on the wall.

You've got a because gotta be poured continuously, right? Your one quarter in inch I rip down you can't rip IT down this stuff. You can put a hammer, thought you can is it's incredible. Concrete technology is unbelievable. What you know what's happened you .

think of think that's an example of our regulator .

that comes along. And I take twenty five thousand lion, these things ended up costing twenty five billion dollars, and that one of them never got opened. But here's a story.

So france does IT. France is largely nuclear, and they build small, little compact plants. And if they need more, they build the same thing, and they hook them up.

And they hook up because they get too big and too complex and too expensive. And IT is very clean. They say it's it's absolutely uncle.

I had a great uncle who was a great genius, just like other members of my family, but he was a professor at MIT for, I think, forty one years. He was a longer. So when I was in the White house, the head of a MIT, princeton, harvard, came down to meet me.

And the MIT person said, I have a book on your uncle doctor john e. thump. He was a longer serving professor. He was a great genius.

Sir, do you know how? And he had, he knew where you think about nuclear, from math to chemistry. Nuclear, he know.

And he said, someday it's going to be the way to go. But the problem is so dangerous in terms of war. He said, down all someday.

This was a long time. Uncle john, dr. Jan trap.

He said, someday you'll have a little natural at your side and you're go into a building and you'll be able to blow up new york city. I said, so that never happened. He's right. Well, that was a power problem.

Giving nuclear power to other countries, right? Like that was the problem to help with india and pakistan. They've got nuclear power. And then they were able to web tize IT.

The biggest problem in the world today is that global warming, it's nuclear warming, and we have idiots that are negotiating for us. We have a guy that doesn't make IT peace for a luck. And it's not because I know they are I know so many guys in their late eighties and they're Better than I said to one idea that I think you're smarter than you were twenty five years.

I've known him a long time. He's eighty nine years old. His sharp as, I mean, he's great. Wind gives people a bad name because that's not an old, that's not an age, I think they say because i'm three or four years Younger, you know, I think that's where they say they say is age. He has got a problem.

Two major .

in oh, is not good Operations.

Do you see him today? He went routed towards the camera and made some apology to the native americans. And he said, that's why he headed out west, like he's off the reservation, so to speak, for a lack of a Better term. Know, it's .

interesting because during the debate I was looking on rum. This is strange, like strange things were happy, yeah, but he couldn't keep .

IT together. But do you think they knew he couldn't keep IT together? I think you think that they wanted. Is that why, like historically, that debate was earlier then theyve been in the past.

right? I think they wanted to get, well, there's a lot of theory. A lot of people said, do the debate now and we'll get him out, right. I think that .

maybe could be, well, that is what happened. I think they also said.

do the debate now and get IT over with. I don't think anybody thought he was going to get out really.

I don't debate.

The debate got him out. But but I think it's very unfair. Look, you have a bad debate. His numbers went down, but I think she's not doing very well right now.

And I think he looks what I get to that too, because it's hard to know, like the whole whole thing is very bizarre for most people because most people don't answer polls. So they read .

the polls .

that .

some people, so I really don't believe too much in him.

So well, two thousand and sixteen taught a lot of .

people about the productive. They were go to a place. And I have thirty, forty thousand people hilly ago, they have five hundred people.

And they tell me i'm going to lose. I say why I gotto. I had forty thousand people. He had had two hundred people.

But you know, I have a theory, these bolsters charge a lot of money to, you know, they charge you have a million bugs to do some stupid poll in the end interview like two hundred and fifty one people. I don't think they interview in many cases. I don't want to get myself .

in too much because .

I think they sit there, they make a deal. They get to have a million box and trumps lady fifty one to forty nine, they announce that everybody says, oh, you understand I I don't think I think in a lot. Look, i'm a very common sense person.

I think that they probably don't always poll. Some of them probably never pull. What's the difference between forty nine and fifty one and forty seven and a heft?

What's also a tiny percentage of the population? I don't think it's representative of the overall population.

I just don't I don't know one person in my whole life that ever got called by a pulse.

exactly. That's my point. So here's here's my question, but I shouldn't because .

i'm doing very you know really well in the polls, I think that so this week I happened to believe in the verse. I only believe good. No, I like them this month.

But no, I honestly believe that this is probably a lot of flood. I had a poll of washington to post A B, C. In the Hillary thing on wisconsin.

They had me down seventeen points the day before the election. I know what was wrong because I had a rally. I had twenty nine thousand people at a race track.

IT was like, zero do is wisconsin. And they had me down seventeen points. Another words you had no chance and I won, and I called up my posters, good guy, good guy. And I, I believe he's legion.

And you know, some of the more, some of more I said, tell me, why did they have me down so much? I mean, nobody y's gonna believe him the next time they said they don't care when you're down seventeen points people are going to stay home they're going of because they're onna say I love trump but i'm not going to waste my tim it's called down I said, but what do they make? IT four or five he said at four or five, they are going to go to vote at seventeen and they're not going to go to vote. So think I was, this is a washington post abc poll. I was down seventeen points in wisconsin, and I won its crooked stuff.

There's a lot of quick at stuff and I wanted to talk about that too because one of things are people um talk about with you is the denial of the results. And I think jd advanced a brilliant job of the day when he was been interviewed and they they asked him, did trump lose the twenty to and election and he turned IT around and said, was their legitimate election interference in suppressing the honey de laptop story on social media? And was that a concerted effort?

Well, they said they ten point difference. And I lost by one one tenth of a point is they say he was twenty two thousand and those but like IT was much more than that and appreciate jd and and that. And by the way, I think he was a great pic. Do you like jd is like, no, I I think .

he's brilliant guy and I think his ability to talk like a Normal human being, he did you did my friend theo van's podger and he just did IT.

How did he do?

He did great. He's just talks about what like you've got to come in here. It's all about timing. It's all about the timing and think tim private do if you have a scar on your ear, you got anything on there. I do we .

say so right over .

here that .

is zip right there.

But IT held up pretty .

fucking good. That's pretty good idea. little. It's not like some of the restless ers.

some of the usc fighters.

No IT got out like a top shut. The point of the bullet was all of the us. But you see the the things take IT off little bit.

But um IT makes me a tougher guy. You know the fighters, you know the fighters love there. You know about nickel is a great thing.

is you going to do I think .

asking is almost defeated and a fantastic .

wrestler and one of the best .

makes much he's .

fighting a mass is regarded in .

november oh, that's going to be in after the election yeah so i'll leather go as president or will be depressed and more about yeah I think they having a fight right?

One of things that was fascinating also was the denial of the election results is is a pretty common thing. Hillary clinton famously denied that he called an illegitimate president, and he said that russia .

put your employees, though he conceded, yes, you know, SHE conceded the night of .

the election because he was beaten, yes. And he was thing that was pretty common for people, especially democrats, to deny the elections been many of them, the bush administration, the, you know, the dangling chats that look .

at these guys in congress, all these sleeves, ags in congress at the democrats are still deny to twenty sixteen. But now they don't so much, because, you know, they try and pin on me, you don't hear, but here's they united IT read up until the my .

point is this idea of election fraud is a forbidden topic, and you get labeled an election and it's like be unlabeled and anti vaca if you question some of the help consequences that people who have from the cove at one thousand nine shots, oh my god, you're anties. You're an anti vx. Or if you say and what I say publicly, and i've said this a lot, it's not zero percent.

So if you ask me, what is the amount of election fraud in this country is IT zero percent. No one thinks it's zero percent. I've never met one person, not A A super liberal, progressive, far left person or A A right wing conservative. Not one person thinks is zero percent. They think when you have human beings, and also you have a lot of weird that was going on during the two thousand twenty elections, particularly with male baLance.

and you had legislatures that had to approve and they didn't approve, and they went out and did IT anyway, and you had ballot. You had all fashion and ballet screw wing. I mean, you had that you had people going up and dropping in phony votes, unsigned ballot and people .

that you and there's what the rhetoric is also that. Ler, and that you'd order to to stop hitler, you have to do whatever IT that was. okay. Yeah yeah. And this is that you're hearing this now complete compared you to said you're love of hitler yesterday.

Come is a very low I Q person. She's a very low. I cute. You know, i'm for taking test to I think anybody that runs for president should take, they should give them test. And it's not an age thing.

Is that based if you look back on history, seventies and eighties greatest some of your greatest leaders in the world, world history, long time world history, they were in their seventies, in their radius. But I think you should take out of tests. I think everyone, they say it's on constitutional, but I think I think companies, you will have a test because there's something missing. There's something wrong with that. why?

I think it's pressure. I think the pressure in the scrutiny you you been a celebrity for a long time and you understand what this is like. But for someone who's in late forties, who becomes the vice president, who runs for president, becomes the vice president, and then all the sudden the way to the world is on your shoulders. And there's all these people been to.

a lot of people climb up. But you be the heavy.

I don't correct. Look.

this is an interview. We've covered a little territory, read and and you know was fine. I don't care.

I want to I think it's much more interesting SHE to do an interview with the Anderson coper a soft, poor, crazy soft ball interview. SHE took two days often. SHE studied and studied all day long.

And then SHE comes up with a result that was a real embarrassing, that was a really bad interview. SHE could answer a question, and every questions not answer mean like, what would you do your first day in office? Okay, i'll build the wall.

I won't build the wall. Is one hundred things you can say, just say anything, right? There's something off with her.

Well, we are dealing we're dealing with the smartest people they hate. When I said, you know, when the press, when I call president SHE, they said he called president SHE brilliant. Well, he's a bRiley guy.

He controls one point four billion people with an iron fist. M he's a brilliant guy. Would you like IT or not? And they go crazy. IT doesn't .

mean is not evil, or IT doesn't mean is not yeah course dangerous.

But actually we have evil people in our country. Yes, if you have a smart president, he can deal with russia. He can deal with all of that. I had, russia would have never gone into ukraine if I were president.

How would you have stopped IT he automatic two things I told him, I said later, may you not going in? I used to talk to all the time. Yeah, not going in.

I can't tell you what I told him because I think would be inappropriate. But somebody he'll tell you, but he would have never gone in. But you know why else?

He wouldn't have gone in oil Prices at I was a barrel, wouldn't have allowed him, wouldn't have given him the money to prosecute that war, wouldn't give him the money. I said, IT with president. I was with president.

He has said he was almost the same conversation with vlada mir was moscow, with president SHE IT was beijing IT was almost the exact same conversation. I said, don't do IT he would have never done IT the day I left, they flew twenty eight bombers over the middle of taiwan, twenty eight bombers. And it's the apple of his eyes.

And the same thing with russia, it's the apple ukraine. Ine is the apple of us. I used to talk to me.

I had a very good relationship with them. He wouldn't have done IT. He won't never done IT, but he also wouldn't have done IT because of the al.

You know, one of the reasons that what happened is, number one, he doesn't respect by at all, not even a little bit, and who are how would but he does a respectable, but when he saw what happened in afghanistan, how horribly that was handled. Number one, you take the soldiers out last night first. Okay, that was a big mistake.

And we had that thing charted out, and they weren't obeying us. They weren't. A abdul is the head of the taliban bomb bomb.

He added all these things, some he didn't do. I said, no, you've got to do a more. This guy took, he immediately took all.

He left the equipment behind. Thirteen soldiers did, but he took everybody out. He took his soldiers out before a child would know that's what a million was.

So stupid. He was such a stupid guy, mainly. Okay, those generals should have open fired.

The afghan, the people that were involved with afghanistan, should have all been fired. Then they would be writing books about him. How stupid was that bad he was? But you take your soldiers.

At last I had a big rally, and I saw a child in the front row about a year a half ago, and I called a child up. I said, you mind, I borrow your child. We, yes, please.

And they came up. Kids, five, you, I gave a quick details. You know, I said, we want to get out of this place, and we have this and we have this and we have the equipment.

I game a little thing. I said, do you take your soldiers out first or last? After everything's done, you take them out. Last year, a child would know that we took our soldiers .

at first what left.

and we left a background. Well.

not only that, we, billions of dollars worth of equipment and military vehicles that are you parades now best .

equipment yet to embarrassment the best equipment .

in the world. The taliban parade, whether got tanks rolling down the streets in black hot line, is the crazy thing .

i've ever saying. That option in the world behind would .

you have done differently?

Well, number one, we were to take IT out. Just say, go back a little bit for the I had a couple of conversations with abdul, and from the time I had those conversations, because they were shooting our soldiers, you know, with this type stock, they were shooting, they were shooting alarm. They were shooting a lot with obama, much less with me, but they were shooting up.

And I say, get this guy on the phone. The press went nuts when they heard this I had a great conversation with IT was a tough conversation eighteen months later. There wasn't one soldier that was ever shot at and even by admitted IT in a moment of stupidity because he shall admit his people but not he said, yeah, well, I will admit no soldier.

We didn't have a soldier killed in eighteen months in afghanistan. That one soldier is killed because he understood what was gonna en. If that happened, I didn't never want.

So then when I left, after having gotten more votes than any sitting president in the history of the country, and much more votes that got in twenty sixty, and when I left, they started shooting our soldiers. But more importantly, what they did is they did their whole thing with you leaving. He shouldn't left.

Number one should left from background, because background m is massive base. It's got tremendous average around a tremendous it's a very big I was built many years ago. And part of the reason you wouldn't have taken that is because IT goes to china one hour from where china makes its nuclear missile.

You should have never left background number one, they should have left from background. They should have left last. They should get a way of americans that are still there.

They should have taken all their equipment out. Everything should. Every plane, every screw should have been taken out, every tent.

And I said that that's what I realized. That merely was a dummy. I said, we're leaving, but I want to get everything out, search, cheer, leave in. I said.

what mean lia, he said.

is Better to live. That was a cheaper, he said.

is cheaper and more dangerous.

He just a cheaper. I said, I want every plane. I want every tech.

I want the goggles and night goggles. They have all this stuff that these guys now have. He said, sir, it's cheaper to get out and leave.

I said, so you think is cheaper to leave one hundred and fifty million dollar brand new airplane in there then IT is to fly out with a tank of jet fuel and put IT in pakistan or just fly IT directly back. It's cheerly. I said, this guys, that i'm told you, he was so stupid, he was so unwise.

He was like an unwise man, and there were a number of up, but I defeated I sis with the greatest generals. I had a guy who was so great. I flew to iraq and I met the real general, not these idiots that we deal with.

And we knock, you know, defeated one hundred percent of the ISIS gala fate. They said he would take five years. I did IT in a matter of a few, literally a few weeks, and we hit them hard.

And he said, so we're going to hit him here. We going to hit him. We're going to hit him here, there.

And I said, this guy's is great. I like this guy. I was told to take five years.

That's why I went. I said, how could I take five years? We have brand new fighters. We have the best plains, the best weapons, the best guns, the best bombs.

How could I possibly take that long? And I flow to, I flew and left the three clock in the morning. Nobody knew I was going, and I got an air force.

One of we started flying. And when we reached about half an hour away from iraq, that was where the airport was, big airport, about a half an hour away. This is, sir, i'm sorry you have to turn off all your lights, why we're getting close to our site, our land.

I said, you know, we spent eight trillion dollars that we can leave the lights to think of this twenty years, eight trillion dollars. We can't leave the lights on in a plan. I said, that's okay. Turn the light. I'm going to fight him this one.

This is because it's too danger.

Yeah, too dangerous because see the light up in the issue here. So I said, turn right then is so we can also pull your shades of that's okay. So that's the plane with pitch black, all the lights outside, you know, the blinking then the blinking reds, they were all turned off.

And i'd like to sit with pilots and at times, and these guys are special, I would say they're Better looking in tob crews, okay? And they're even taller, like perfect experiments. These guys like for a fighter, you know, you have some guys that are perfect and you they pick, they pick the best pilots in the air force, united states air force, to fly air force one.

And I get up there and i'm sitting and i'm feeling my way up. You know, it's up seven, eighty seven. He go through the stage, but I started to knew my way up.

There was in a light in the planet. And can you imagine, we spent trillions of dollars in we trying to fly and blind. But I got into the plane, the cockpits, dark, black, little, tiny, like you could see the pilot, a perfect look in human being is cold pilot.

Everybody was perfect. They were all like movie stars. You know, it's like, I got a custom movie with these guys, and nobody would believe IT because they were too good looking. So I said, how we doing up there will be landing in ten minutes at a look outside, this is not a light and you know, i've landed other planes and you see, like little lights, at least there's nothing.

It's just pure desert and I said, okay, captain, good Brown looking and now did you have been to many plants? Where has the computer? So saying one thousand feet nine because one thousand nine hundred eight hundred is a computer voice, but sounds like, but its incredible voice.

Seven hundred. And he kept in a we OK i'm look, are we OK capt, in there's no lights and i'm looking at in Normally when you land up because I sit with possible I think it's great. I think it's a great profession.

Everything it's, they're incredible. These machines are great, he said so with fine, no problems here. I said, you know that I don't see the lights of captain, we're okay, you know.

So I mean, be exaggerating a little bit, you know, probably exaggerating to tell the story. They say trip was a coward shop sitting within years five hundred four and I said, and i'm telling you, there was in a light on the runway, nothing. And we go in and, O, K, apt, everything good.

Yes, sir, no problem would be downed about one minute. And i'm telling you, joe, you know, there's always like, this is not a little pin and all of us and you here, wow, a perfect. And I like less.

That's how good. I mean, these guys between the equipment and it's genius. It's a IT was so dark you couldn't see a thing.

There was no run way. You wouldn't where the head, you here in the middle of desert. And then I got out of the plane.

I said, thank you, kept and is a great job and then I got out of the plane and i'm going down and I see a general and another general, and I see a staff sergeant to your sergeant and a various sky, all central casting, central casting. They said there, would you like to arrest? I said, I don't want to rest.

I want to figure out what will be doing with ice is i'm hearing we can is going to take years now so we can do IT very quickly, sir, in any way we go into the room, we go, I mean, by then, what is taken an APP with four days and then left without a meeting. So we go into the room and they have these guys, I say, how long can you do IT? How long we can do IT in a couple of weeks there with me.

They told me five years we can do IT. And he gave me a number like, like, just like a no time. I said, why haven't you done? Because the orders came in from washington there and they would come here and tell us what to do. Don't you chAllenge that we not allowed to do that or that start the military, what they tell us what to do, and we have to respect that. My decision.

So do you think that IT was incompetence? Why they didn't go after this is .

I think it's a bad system. You know, when matis goes there or when million goes there, who stupid? And they tell these guys that are actually smart what to do. And the guys that are smart are saying, we don't like what they are doing, but did not allow to. So counter plus the guys that when they are arrogant, you, they're arrogant fools are like stupid fools.

The way they pulled out of, you know, the way they, as an example, the way they pulled out of afghanistan with the people falling off the plains, IT was so IT was worse than vietnam. The helicopters falling IT was so bad, there was no reason for anyway. So we knocked him out.

And I mean, we have great military, we have great people, but not the television guys. And I rebuilt the military, and then they gave a chunk of IT. I have to as much as IT is.

It's a tiny little piece, I believe. IT or not, we have an unbelieved. I rebuilt the military.

I rebuilt our nuclear. And in a way, I hated to redo IT. But I got to realize how powerful that nuclear is.

Joe one, bob, israel was gone. But forget, one bomb can take out the entire east coast. It's so bad.

And I watch these poor fools talk about about, our oceans will rise one eight of inch over the next five hundred years. Have been, we have people. We have countries.

Retina, five countries. And don't unreserve north north court. If you take a look at north korea, there I was there.

I mean, I was with kim ja. I had a great, great. I got a long great with a, you know, the pressure.

You got a long way. That's a good thing. It's not a bad thing. It's a great thing.

Obama thought we were going na go to war with north korea when I met with obama just prior to the text. You know, you meet, you have a sort of a ceremonial meeting. But IT lasted at a long time, a lot long as I was supposed to less.

I said, what's the biggest probably in north korea? By the time I finish, I was, we would had no problem with north korea. We were really, I was a little tough at the beginning. Remember, he said, I have a red button or on my desk I said, I have a red button also. But minds bigger than use and mind works.

I like how you call them little rocket man.

And I said, I get a little rocket. I said, little rocket man, you're onna burn in hell. IT was a rough, yeah, oh, so rough that people who worry this is crazy.

And then one day I got ta call, sort like a fight. I gotto call, you know, you have pounding that all of us said, but I gotto call. And IT was from him, meaning his people they wanted to meet, they wouldn't meet obama.

He tried to meet. They won't even talk to him about IT. And I think he expected to go to war.

I actually do. I believe he expected to go. And we checked in nuclear stuck.

IT is substantial. I mean, it's, I said, do anything I get to know very well. I got to know Better than anybody, anybody.

And I said, you never do anything else. What do you go? Take IT easy and relax.

Go to the beach. Beautiful beach. Nice speech, fun property.

You know, kidding. Ly, I said, you always building nuclear, just relax. You don't have to do IT. Let's build some condos when you're sure when they actually have go to a stuff and said, I just have to do IT because I need IT for my safety. I said, I got to know very well we had no problem with him.

If you have a smart problem, if you have a smart, a really the right president, the smart president, you're not to have a problem. And I say to people, we have a bigger problem, in my opinion, with the enemy from within. And he drives me crazy when to use that term.

But we have an enemy from within. We have people that are really bad, people that I really think want to make this country unsuccessful. When you look at what's happening at our border, do when you have people coming in that when when other countries are allowed to empty their prisons into our country with murders, we had thirteen thousand and ninety nine murderer dropped in our country over the last three years.

and fifteen thousand rapists.

convicted rapist, yeah, drug dealers, drug lost .

the ones .

that are a people from mental institutions.

What you think this hundreds.

hundreds of thousands of major criminals, tougher and worse than anybody we have? These were in the .

consequences of a senator, ono. They taken over apartment buildings in the world, call rato. They take in our apartment buildings these Venus. Well, again, the beginning, what do you think the strategy is? One of things that they've said is that you are stopped a bill from being passed, but didn't that bill also include amnesty for the people already here?

This is years after the fact the damage was already done.

But what was the bill?

What was the problems? Two million people, and they were going to get amma sty. IT was a horrible bill. IT didn't protect us at all.

But we should just tell people with the strategy. And very clear is that they've moved a large percentage of these migrants to come in across the border illegally. They move them to swing states. This is what's go when I was spring field or high right in swing states.

Well, let's not just swing. I'm going to win ohio by a lot so that ask me, but it's got springfield, hio, to be exact. And springfield, ohio is a very nice community of fifty two thousand people that just had thirty two thousand migrants that don't speak the language dropped into their community.

You can get into a hospital. You can get into a school. It's gone from a beautiful little place to a horror show.

And the mir is a nice guy. And the mayor says we're looking for interpreters. I said, no, you've got to remove them and bring them back to their country.

Mostly hates in this case, but they speak no. They speak no language. They speak, no, in fact, even the language they speak, I mean, they can get interpreters, they can do anything.

And the man is trying to be politically correct. There were trying to be in a ora colorado. You have the the worst, probably the worst gangs.

M. S. Thirteen might even be, you know, those two are the worst gang. These even as well, gangs. They have taken over apartment complexes, and they gonna want to take over the whole thing. And you have a weak government or pathetic governor who's a radical left democrat.

He doesn't know what the hell to do but you have IT many other communities but they don't like to talk about IT because it's you know it's bad for the community to talk about IT. These people have been LED in here by this ebisu. She's I mean IT she's a low I Q person, low I but .

it's also obviously not just her. There's a strategy both and let people bother. Well, she's to charge the board ard, but they also they utilize that APP, the APP that used to be used IT used to be used that I think essentially wasn't IT for shipping. Wasn't that when people were .

this country there was used for shipping? And now it's used to deal with the cartels, the car tail, heads of the car tail, rich people, by the way, these are loaded. These people are so much when they would call up.

Think of this, they call up the APP and the APP tells them where they should take their load of illegal migrants from the congo. You know, we have a lot from the congo prisons and the congo. Um I made a little bit of arcane c joke, a man named day or why who you love, who I love, assume you love I I think he's in a last.

but is probably the reason why you're hear.

I don't know.

maybe he's one of the big ones.

He is the greatest guy, you know, I always say, every nobodies indispensible. You know, everybody can be replaced. Maybe you can be, you might not be, but they know truly, I don't think you know things. They sort of for four billion. I said, what I, who I hell is going to pay four billion and they made like a great .

deal because taking out.

I think it's all over now.

He's also the .

latest guy he spoke at at the whole thing with, you know, I had just been shot in. He got up and he spoke. So Better than anybody.

I mean, who would be Better to introduce you? I asked of all the people, and I know there's biggest people in the world, and they all would have loved to have done. I said today, would you do IT? There was interesting. He was away, and he said to the people that, you know, one of my guys called said, I won't be able to do what am free. I just left with my wife and family I said, we said, no, yeah.

Was a little surprised, even though I knew he was very far away, was in some place and he deserved IT with his family and know all thing and then I said, right this and are so we're looking at how we're going to get and all of us said, he comes in, sir, I know I just said he's going to do IT and he's coming back in tonight. He's take over. You know, the guy is just a incredible guy and he's like a tough champion, but loyal. Yeah, he's gotta one of your favorite people.

one of my favorite. I've been friends with him for twenty three .

years of so would you have because you what you're doing here is incredible. I mean, everybody tells me what he knows today going, you know, you're and joe rogan. People tell me, like I said, I had to held, you know that but it's sort of what you've done here is amazing. Where would you be if you didn't .

do the U F, C stuff.

would you this show you think level, but you would have.

it's hard to know. I think you know, one of things that works for the show, I guess, is that I am involved in so many different things. You stand up, comedy, U, F, C, and all the interests that I have that lead to the podcast.

what you always want to do you if first what you love U, F, C, I love you. You love the fights. I mean, I want you. You love IT. They could pay you nothing.

I'd be very, they didn't pay anything for the first like thirteen shows. I did IT for free because they were hamer's ing money. And I became friends with dinner.

And my my position was you're going to give me the best seat in the house. I get to sit cage side for the fights I got to IT, and I wanted to help. I was like, I think these are the guys that we always hope for these days.

sport. I started work for the the company in one hundred and ninety seven. I was the before the u fc. Was purchased by zoho a which day work. So I was a part of the owners, and I only did IT for a couple years, which was just too much, and I was losing money, and I was banned from cable because of blood. Wiser, john a can, and you could only get in on your TV.

So then I came along and I gave him, said, and and he never forgot, you know, just interactive. And so he, they couldn't get a site because he was too dangerous. Everybody was against IT and they could not get licensed.

And I gave him the first two or three sides, and they were great. And by the way, I went to the first fight. I said, I never saw something like this.

I was crazy. IT was so good. Take the best fight you ve ever.

IT was like that fight, right? IT was so good that I gave me to be, get, get. And all of a, suddenly I caught on.

But you know, when I was an invoker, you know, i've had time. You probably never had a time, but I had times when I wasn't exactly invoke dinner. They called them.

He said, he's the greatest guy. There's nobody like he said, i'll never say anything bad about that guy because when I needed, because having a hard time at the beginning, they pulled the plug. G, A couple of times, right? He said he stood up and he gave us stuff that nobody else gave us, and nobody wanted anything to deal.

And he said, I will never. And there was a time where I would have been very popular of him to say bad stuff about me. He said, the greatest stuff about me said, you're going to try and get me to say bad stuff .

about trump.

I'm never doing IT.

He's an a very A Y, A guy at something .

less controversial.

Now I, well, that's huge. yeah. Well, this was always the thing that I would hope that I would be. I always knew that I was unbelievable entertaining, but I just didn't know. Maybe I was crazy and maybe I loved IT because i've this long history had been involved, marsh arts, and maybe like other people who just think it's too violent.

But can boxing make IT? Yeah.

boxing still a great sport. I love boxing.

but that seems to be so, so important now by comparison to U. F. C, don't you think?

I think, well, you know, dana is working with the kingdom of sadi arabia promoting boxing now and day at the home of that. I think boxing and give return because the thing is they want to make fights that other maybe you know promoters don't want to make because they want to protect their fighter, controversial fights where you know it's dangerous like you don't know the sky could lose. And so the saw is they're smart. They are just offer a tremendous amount of money and they're putting together fighter fights that no one else can put together.

They are in that boxing, if that is involved, to probably make a good you know, the amazing thing that the infighting, no usc fighter, they say, has ever died. And IT looks to be much more violent than box. Many boxes of that is not interesting and day that tells me because they takes so many shots to the face. yes.

And there's also no other options to preserve yourself, to protect yourself. So if you get hit in a usc fight, you can clinch, you could try to take the fight to the ground. Your options also, you don't get allowed to get knocked down, and they get back up.

When you get knocked down, you're can cost. And generally, you know, if you guys really hurt t, they could be finished on the ground and the fights over. If it's boxing, you have ten seconds to get up.

You get up your head kindly clear, but you're still in real bad trouble. And then you can kind to run away and survive until the bell rings. They're only three minute rounds and then you started again.

So you're getting repeated punishment to the head yeah you know and then there's also the issue of guys weight cutting, you know which is a problem with the u fc as well. But weight cutting in boxing is LED to if you look at deaths boxing, there's very fuel from the heavy, wet division, most of the deaths, and boxing of the lighter way divisions. Because when guys dehydrate themselves whose whose weight to make weight, their brain is the last thing that gets rehydrated like it's very difficult to completely rehydrate grate your brain quickly.

And you only have twenty four hours between the way and the fight. And IT used to be the way and where the day of the fight, like when when bombo mancini had a fight with ducks o cam and held them in the rain, which is one of the last ones on television that we have seen. That was a crazy event for people in heartbreaking and IT LED to a bunch of different changes. One of them is, day before wants to allow people to rehydrate Better. And the other one is they dropped IT from fifty rounds down twice.

which look, they should do that. You know, i'm not the fight, so but those fifteen .

round fights were on.

you go back age in of were the temperature of those were the greatest fights.

Those last three rounds were crazy. An is such a war of attrition, know a lot of people think, even like a five round usc fight. Usc is five minute rounds. It's so much energy you're burning out in those last couple, around five hundred fights at forth, the fifth around, unbelievably brutal.

Who is the great as U. F, C. fighter? Are you allowed to say in your your opinion is tough for you to say because you do this, but who do you think is the greatest of the photos?

There's there's a lot of arguments for who the greatest of all time, you know uh john Jones of most people would say the greatest of all time never lost. It's is this certainly a really good argument for that?

There's another argument for geo samper I always leave in bj pen in his prime, Anderson silver in his prime um you know mighty mouse people forget about the mouse because unfortunately he's a smaller guys, one hundred twenty five pounds fly way champion. He's one. The greatest expressions of march, I think to this be fantastic. But if you looked at like accomplishments in terms of championship fights can be retired two and nine and .

o but he didn't have a many world lost around.

might have lost uh to glass and tea bow. He might have lost to him, might lost around and that was a controversial fight where people think that glass and t bao could have even got the decision. If I, i'd have to go back and watch again to make a decision. But great athletes, oh, the best athletes in the world and the the most dangerous sport in terms of, like I always called, high level problem solving with dire physical consequence. That's what .

fighting I never forget. So there was a fighter name, James tony.

James tony.

he thought, as a very light fighter. And he ended up as a heavy way, went through everything. Most light went, feels a heavy.

And he was a real fighter. Oh yeah. So James tony. And I think that was, say, George George .

pier sap peer.

I think he was he who didn't if I James tony.

no, James tony and PyTorch .

he fought a usc yeah rending .

catti fought James tony. But that was like a easy fight that was a very easy fight. And coach just took .

him down and was the most and have the size and he just once he got to the announce that it's over ah and he put up the took down .

monte and strangle and he said .

he he was talking big because he was big pretty much just want to .

make some money yeah but I never forgot IT .

IT IT was over very quickly and he was lying sleeping on the man he was talking and you know he was doing the mohamed ali said, but he didn't work out but I remember the, yeah that was going to a problem.

He was to her. George never fought a boxer in an mm a fight. If you did, he would kill them .

was he was the great yes.

unquestionably that's the argument. There's like a handful of guys you can make the argument is the Grace of all time. People forget about understand a in his prime he was unstable. It's but that's the thing is and in his fate or a million echo who thought pride in his prime, he was unstable and have a couple that we've got so many now ala there's .

argument that he's .

is unbelievable, but it's like fighters can only compete at that level for so many years. And so my opinion, you have to judge them at the very peak. You can't judge them when they are hanging on.

It's still fighting. You can't judge them when they are coming up. You've got to judge them in that championship peak and that champions peak, there's a handful of guys that you would .

consider that if they stopped a little bit sooner. Yeah, some of them have there a couple of that you just without mentioning their names and they stopped. They had the perfect. They were unbelievable on them at a certain age. Ages are getting knocked out, right?

Yes, it's unfortunate. But the thing is that same belief in themselves that lets them become a champion makes them think that they can do IT long past the time that they actually can.

Well, Anderson silver was essentially unBeatable. And then he lost at us when they all this.

he got knocked out. He got knocked out by Chris wiman, right? He was kind of clowning in that fight famously. And click, Chris White man had a vicious left hoo knock amount. And then they fought a second time, and he broke his leg on Chris wide man. And after that fight, he was kind of never the same because that that leg break injury, which conomo grave had this quite a few fighters, why actually want to have having the same injury, ironically.

is only been like if you're never the same.

because you can never the same. What you can, White band is still kicking with that you can. But psychologically, when you throw a kick in your leg stamps and half, and you're an agony for a year, right? You have to get surgery. You have to get bolt and plates to keep your leg together. And then IT takes forever for you to heal.

IT always amazed me how the kicker I mean, you have those cases, but the kicker will do tremendous damage to somebody's leg, but their leg doesn't seem to get damage.

isn't IT IT does damage and more than yeah but your shine, your shin gets very numb afterwhile. And guys that are really good kickers, they're kicking the thy and the kicking, the kicking, kicking soft areas and they're sliming this hard num shine their shin, gets all these like microfracture res all over the shin. And to coalification, these guys can kick baseball bat.

There seem break baseball bat with their shin. It's crazy. Some guys to do two baseball bats, somebody to hold the baseball .

bat and just kick right through them now. And it's like that's why you go to that's why nobody does is Better that without the enthusiasm.

forget IT what has to be authentic like that? I mean, the only reason why I do MMA commentaries because I am very interested in IT for real. It's after the manufacturer and very interested.

So are you love going in there after the fight? And they are sweating all of you. They slap in all of you.

You are beautiful. They are. Two weeks ago with that, I was he.

I never saw him.

He more stuff came back at his nose.

Yes, anna's y, but no, i'm various to IT. I just wanted him to be able to express. Thank you. Thank you.

So back to you and back to what? What are you? And first, all, I love this idea of you teaming up with robbert Kennedy, right? And I love this, make amErica healthy again. No idea. Because there are chemicals and ingredients, and there are food that are illegal in other countries because they've been shown to be toxic. There's pesticides and urb sides, and there's a lot of ship that's been sprayed on our food that really is unnecessary, and there's a lot of health consequences that people are suffering from a lot of these things. And to the beauty.

I had a feeling you'd asked me, look at this chart, these are healthier countries. Look with the united states, are going to send this r fk.

junior. So this is, well, something alongside. I was actually talking to R F K. today. And he told me that more than seventy percent of Young men are in eligible for the military because of their health.

I could say that a lot of a lot of its O.

B, here's the life expectancy versus health expenditure.

Same chart. Yeah, did you see that? USA? That's pretty good. He's very good. He's the best. But no.

but look that look at the not good and food, that's our diet. That's central lifestyle. That's our diet. That's the chemicals we ingest.

That's what that is like. R fk is going to be, you know, I think he's a great guy.

I think the fact you guys teamed up and are you guys are you completely committed to have him a part of your the only .

thing I want to be a little careful about with him is the environmental because, you know, he doesn't like oil. I love oil. I guess I think I think keep matter to fire so to keep him out of I said focus on health first you can do whatever you want but I got to be little bit careful with the liquid gold .

and I understand um but listen, there's plenty of good work that could be done if you focus on health.

Is the that is the one that my old time favorite. See the error right here. That's what I love today. I one that .

is pressuring you to not work with him. Have there been .

people work part .

of a junior? Yes, yes, I would imagine because finally can put that.

I would say that, and you know, I think in many ways, they have done a good job. In many ways, they have done a good job. But I would say that the big farmer wasn't thrilled when they heard that.

Do I have really i've actually always gotten along very well with him. I've been known him a long time. He's a different kind of a guy's very smart, great guy and he's very sincere about this.

I mean, he really is, you know, he thinks we we spend a fortune on pesticides at all the stuff and then end up a that chart is a terrible chart, the one previous, it's such a bad chart when you look at where we are compared to other countries that don't spend ten set. So you know and you save a lot of money. But yeah, i've had some people that are exactly thrilled you can imagine, right? sure. A good question actually.

Well, certainly.

if IT doesn't affect me, some .

pharmaceutical drugs that have been prescribed that have negative consequences that these people have been profiting off of. And then you have a guy like r fk junior who spends an about the time highlighting those things. You could say how they're be very reluctant .

to have you support him.

I would say that's an understand. yeah. So how what do you do to stop that from getting in the way?

Look, they've come up with some amazing things. I mean, I don't know you feel I know you're against of certain relaxes. But like the polio vaccine, people like polio that were IT was like a disaster and they came up, doctor saw and they came up with a vaccine.

And there's no polio. Now very interesting that has been in polio. But now and the gaza trip, can you believe that have you heard that there's been a big train of polio coming out in the gaza trip?

Is a vaccine drive polio because you know there there's a strain of polio that comes directly from the vaccine. Unfortunately.

sometimes people for yeah I mean, all I can do is I sit down and I listen to him and and I give IT a total I would love him to be right because it's if he's right, is a lot less expensive generally .

two things that people point to when they point to uh the the dangers of, uh, the pharmaceutical drug industry. One thing is when pharmaceutical drugs were allowed to advertise on television. We're only one of two countries in the world that allow pharmacists al drugs to advertise on T, V. The other ones, new zealand, but they're more restrictive than we are people.

But those those is when you hear, like you take a certain .

drug .

and then and then you say IT causes cancer and bold this and this, they said that and I said, and you can lose your visions and know I just, I actually as one, yes, I would never take up me to cross this things that was so bad they go through a whole list. I guess they save some liability.

But men, I said, does that affect the purchase? And they say, that really does when they when there's something you have and you read and then they go through the list of side effect, the potential side is the potential side effect. I mean, a lot of people just I ask that question. People hear that when I hear IT, i'm going to take a place that said, may affect your vision, may cause blindness.

May this, yes, but I know you aware of calling casey means, right? Well, one of things that they pointed out, and this is a very important thing for you to understand, is what a lot of these drugs do, is they they act to to somehow another mitigate the effects of poor meta lic health. But most of these problems that these people are suffer from wouldn't exist if we put an emphasis on meta bio health.

People got healthier and started eating nutritious food to take vitamins. Or whole host of these problems that people are having would go away. And the problem with that from the pharmacy eur al drugs standpoint is they won't be able to sell drugs .

to these people. And this is the and things like that on the plants. And what do you think of that terrible?

Well, I think regenerated agriculture, unfortunately, is very difficult to scale. To a point. We got a jack in the box and everyone, right?

Food, and we have food deserts, and we have places like los Angeles for no one's growing anything and everything has to be shipped in. And it's very difficult to feed that many people. We've created this incredible society where we have these enormous cities, but it's it's very difficult to get food to these people.

And then for a lot of these people in low income areas, the only food is available is cheap, unhealthy food. And we could fix that that that if we could send one hundred and seventy five billion dollars to ukraine, we could do something to fix a lot of the health problems that the united states has. And I think IT would, I would help us as a nation overall. I just if you just put IT out there that, hey, as a nation, we're going to make a concerted effort to get people healthier, just put IT out there and people start making Better choices.

Well, when you look at it's I they just gave me that chart. As they say, you may want to discuss this topic, which I knows a big topic view. And when I looked at that chart and I looked at how unhealthy we are as a nation.

that's that's a pretty big how are you so healthy as a golf?

No, it's genetics. I believe. You know.

i'm a big says a big fact.

I really I made my father with, unfortunately.

is a big factor for health to some people, just way more robust. But you do play golf a lot.

Both of my parents, for me, it's good, really is, especially outside, even mentally. You have focused on that three photo, and for some a couple of hours, you know, and I go quick, I play fast, real fast and in amount. But you know, that gives me, I was never one that could, like, run on a trade mill.

I just, and I can do, you know, when passing a physical, they ask me to run on a treat bill, and then they make a steeper and steeper and steeper. And the doctor said he was at world to read. I said, it's unbelievable.

I could have, i'm told you I felt I could got OK, but I said, I can do this all day long. I have no problem, but it's boring to me. You understand .

this exciting.

But I did IT for so long, they couldn't believe IT that I did IT. And I never I I don't do IT. I don't. I did know friends run in this stuff all they know, but I had no problem doing IT but it's really borrow ing. So with goal for something no or tennis or whatever, but a golf, as you get older, there's something really good about IT and you have competition .

and concentration .

and is a great handicap s word.

And it's also a thing I think that's IT cleaned your mind because when you're looking at A A shot, that's all you can think of when you're executing .

IT gives you a couple of us. You know it's interesting like with tennis, if you're much Better than somebody you can't replay with somebody, you know that doesn't work, you can give sort of the equivalent of strokes, right? But is that this with gulf, you can play with a lousy guy giving a stroke a hole or two strokes a hole up.

You know, it's a good handy capps, but IT gives me a little exercise, but I haven't played a long time. I want a lot. I want thirty two club championships.

You play right after you got shot?

No, what I did is I played with bryson. d. Shambo, do you know bryson?

Yes.

pro is a great player, and we played IT was a certain thing that we played, I guess, called braking fifty or something. fifty. We play for a certainty.

And if you can break fifty. And IT got tremendous rating, sort like a crazy thing. I got tremenhere's a great guy, but was a couple .

of days after you .

got out I don't know .

I know was really of course I think .

I did yeah maybe I did. But I you know I feel that very interestingly, i'm running for president of the united states is to be as such a big deal, so important. So it's the .

biggest deal in the free world.

It's one hundred times bigger than the super ball and it's one person yeah so you're down to two people and we thought of at nine billion because you have nine, nine billion. They say in the world, who knows what that number is, but you get down to three hundred and fifty millions. Sadly, we have no idea what we have in this country.

But lets have some three twenty five, three fifty. And yet out to two people was the biggest thing in the world. And when I heard he took off yesterday and he took off the day before, she's going to take go off tomorrow or the next day.

I haven't taken a day off in fifty six days at a long time. I haven't taken one day off. I don't want to play up.

This is too exciting. Golf is great, but this is too exciting. This is more exciting than anything you can do.

And it's the home stretch.

It's the home stretch who would take a day off. So we have eleven days left now and think of IT. So I think i've gone fifty four, fifty five days in a row, no days of, and I make speeches often times here are sometimes night, but I make speeches.

And when you make a speech, and my speech is last a long time because of the wave, you know, I mean, weave stories into IT. And if you don't, if you just read a teleprompter, nobody y's going to be very exciting. You've GTA weave IT out so you but he was, as you say, you have to get right back to IT yeah, otherwise is so good.

But the wave is very, very important. Very few drivers around, but it's a big strain on your you know, it's a big it's a lot of work. It's a lot of work.

You're got to be careful with the voice. You can lose that voice. Voice wasn't designed, I said today.

So I made a big one last night. I was in last vegas, big one the night before, an arizona big one. I mean, they're all big.

We have that there's never been anything like that in terms of great. Never been close. Never been close.

They say he talks about crosses. You know, it's very interesting. So we get crowds and really big. And I say, you know, i've never had a school because I don't get good press. I don't think i've had a good story in years.

I really see where I don't think you talking about a little bit with all everybody loved me. I don't think I became president, the united states. I did greet the second time.

I did much Better. I I don't want to get you in in any disputes, but I won that second election so easy. And not just .

because me get to that. I want to talk to.

I did that and now i've gotten the nomination again and don't forget to get these nominations. You've go against very smart people around the santis was hard to go through him. Uh, nicky hai was hard to had to go through.

Her went through everybody, record time, record time. I got three nominations at row one the first time did much Better the second time, you know, I get millions of votes more of the second time, and I am doing at the third time. And it's an incredible thing.

I never get a good story. I only get bad press. Now I will say this is a lot easier if you're democrat. If I were democrat.

you get a lot of positive. I would get a lot of positive. Yes, no, it's it's a creepy corruptions and the the media to a larger and access of propaganda ARM for .

the democratic party.

It's not even believable yeah it's believe he means bizarre to watch. And you know most Young people, I think are aware of IT. I think most boomers still unfortunately read the newspapers and believe in CNN.

But it's getting Younger. It's getting for us, for I can do. And you know, I don't know, I consider myself of the .

internet because the internet is giving people information that do not getting from anywhere else. And they, like the very fine people, hooks the russia gate hooks, all these different things that we've done to try to pin on you.

That's like it's a clear distortion of what you actually the to it's a blood bath because japan and and china are taking .

our auto and .

I said it's terble.

But that's the problem with propaganda because they take things out of context of ultimately, what they do is they diminish their own credibility because people don't want to listen to anymore because they see that they've done that and they they recognize what's going on and they feel insulted.

Intelligence will look at the ratings and you know, shows like yours. So I have a son is very smart and toll barren, right? And he knows all about you.

He knows about guys i've never heard of. He said, dad, you don't know how big they are. There big? You know, some help.

I said, who is like rose, I didn't. He said, dad, he's a great guy. I mean, guy I said, I do and it's a whole new world out there.

It's a different world.

Know, i'm a tiktok now. congrats. And i've done really well.

No, but you know the crazy. Have you seen the numbers? I've been billions.

like billions .

of hits, thirty points. A republican is always down thirty with Young people. I'm plus thirty. And I want, I think Young.

Young people are rejecting a lot of this worked bullshit. Young people are tired to being yelled out and scalded. They're tired of these people that they think are mentally ill, telling them what the moral standards the society should be today, and people are upset.

It's a big there's a big difference now. But even in just a couple of years, I would shake in hand with people that Young people.

the rebels are republicans. Now though, like you want to be a rebel, you want to be punk rock, you want to like buck the system. You're conservative.

Now that's that's so crazy. And then the liberals are now pro silencing criticism, their pro censorship online there. They're talking about regulating free speech and they're regulating the first amendment.

It's bananas to watch they have to their political opponent, but they get more guys. I always say you, my kid, but did i'm like kids. I've been investigated more than alphonse upon he was the minister of a more.

He killed you in two seconds if he didn't like you at, i've been under investigation more than alf's coupon only because it's political opponent self. And i've won. I won the big case in florida, winning the other stuff.

You win. But you know what? They they did something that's only done in third world countries.

They came after their political opponent. Yeah, I could have put cricket hill in jail. But not only that.

but they are never weapon zing IT by saying that that's what you are going to do once you get. Ignoring are doing right now.

It's I heard somebody was defending me to this. No, that's they say that's what you're doing to him. They're going he's going to put us in jail. He's going to invest.

This is what you're doing to him yeah a lot of people say, will you do that? Will you do that to him if to them, if you know the present is a tremendous power? I got ta put crooked hilary. I respected that.

You didn't. Because what you said was that would be bad for the country?

No, I I couldn't even imagine you have first, the secretary said, but more importantly, the wife of the president of the united states of amErica going into jail and if you ever saw when i'd say something about her, they're also, I didn't say I never said IT. They say, locker up locker, and I always go take IT easy. Just really, actually, we're going to win this thing.

Take IT easy. Take IT easy. And i'm telling you, I kept IT down, just the opposite. Now they say, h, trump wanted to put on you. No, I saved her from going to jail.

They had more stuff on her and call me had IT because when call me, got up. And he stupid dly, because he is a stupid guy too. He goes a disease. Stupid sound of a bit. He got up, joe, he got up.

And instead of saying she's innocent of all charges, he went over each church and each church was a killer, and he go, and as far as her doing this, she's innocent and this, and then she's only an unfair prosecutor for we go. But every time you heard these charges, they sound so bad. They were bad.

And all IT was as he wanted more air time. If he would have gone up and said, i've thoroughly investigated hilary clinton and she's done nothing that we feel is wrong, IT would have vented. Instead, he wanted to be up there because he's is A P, R hound.

He's a hug and he starts going through. And, you know, he had, they had a huge problem, because FBI is great. The people here, not the top people, the people, the real people, the people that work, there's like the real generals.

And I told you about the defeated I is and record that the FBI guys agree. I'll bet you would be at ninety five percent in the F. B.

I. And that's right underneath. yeah. So you think so he goes with hilary. And instead of you're saying he goes through each charge and I was man and that was a bad .

charges and and this is before.

just before I there now he was trying to protect, but he did her a great to service .

because he wanted attention. He was still so I I want to talk about twenty, twenty, because you said over and over again that you were robbed in twenty. what? How do you think your right? Everybody always cuts you off. I .

rather do, is still another time. And I would bring in papers that you would not believe, so many different papers. That election was so crooked, IT was the most crooked election. Okay.

but give me some examples of .

how well let's go, let's art on the top in the easy ones, okay? They were supposed to get legislative approval to do the things they did. And they they didn't get IT. In many cases.

they didn't get .

IT what anything .

they prove like .

for extensions of the voting, for voting earlier, for this, all different things. By law, they had to get legislate of approvals. You don't have to go any further than that.

If you take a look at wisconsin, they virtually admitted that the election was rigged, robbed and stolen. They wouldn't give access in certain areas to the baLance because the baLance were in signed, they were in originals. They were we could go into the stuff, we could go into the baLance or we could go into the overall.

I'll give you another you could present. Let me like, what do you do you think?

Let me just give you work. Before fifty one intelligence agents come up that the laptop was from russia, IT turned out to be totally false.

Fifty former intelligence agents.

they say that made, I don't believe it's as much, but IT doesn't have to. I won by like, I lost by like editors. But they say I lost job.

They say I lost by twenty two thousand and words that's like one tenth of one percent less than that. It's a tiny little thing, twenty two thousand, and spread over that, spread over this, this spirit. So fifty one intelligence agents lied.

They lied. They lied. They know I was, I was hunters.

IT was from his bed. IT was hunters slapped up. They said IT was created by russia, russia, russia.

He was the russia hoax. The russia hoax was a big hawks. IT was all a big.

so good mother. But it's a big examples.

They say that made a seventeen point difference. That a big example, but that's only one. And you could go into the baLance where they wouldn't give you access to the baLance. You could go into the ballot harvesting. You could go into five hundred million dollars for the lock boxes.

But just in turns a narrative. So there's two things right? There's the russia hoax. There's the collusion with russia that was never proven right?

That's what is proven.

IT didn't have but but they as they talked about .

IT on have years to prove but not that.

But IT was a constant narrative on television, the narrative that gets in the people's mind, especially low information people that just watched the news that you're inclusion with. So that's one. So that changes the narrative.

And then you have the fifty one former intelligence agents that work with the original twitter and get them to remove links. You can share IT on dms. You cannot share that story.

They swept that story because they said IT was russian, and this information, even though they knew IT was not. So that's two examples that are real examples. Now, anyone who considers himself a legitimate, objective observer of american politics, if you really want the best person to win, you would want people to not lie. And the only reason why they got away with this lie was because they continually labeled you as this horrible threat to democracy and hitler. They kept saying, you're going to be a dictator, ignoring the fact that you wearing a dictator for the four years where you are actually president.

I was actually the opposite of addicted. I was a very straight guy. But look, those three things, you take, those three things, each one of them by themselves, causes the result to be different.

IT does.

And then you can go into one hundred other things. There are so many, we can have corrupt elections, and we can have open borders. We need, you need to have a country.

You need borders. You need fair elections. And i'll tell you, the other thing you need is you need a free and fair press. One of the things I like about doing a show like this, can you imagine cma doing this show?

Could imagine he .

ying in the floor? SHE was supposed to do IT.

and SHE might do IT. And I hope SHE does. I will talk to her .

like a human being. I try interview. I hope he does, because IT would be a mess. She'd be lying on the foka a, should you would be saying, calling the medics? I think we'd have .

a fine conversation. I think i'd be able to doctor, I wouldn't try to end interviewer. I just have a conversation with her and hopefully get know as a human being.

That was my goal. Having around trying to get her to express herself, just says, I don't know if these I don't think these formats are good. I don't think that two people, first of all, I hate the idea, the presidential debates, because I hate the idea of a time limitation on complex ideas. Also, you have to break, I think.

you to have the debates, right?

But the way they do the debates, I think, is the wrong way to do. And I think they should have a conversation. I think you and camera, you sit across the table with no one in the room, but the two of you, of course, you're not going to shout .

each other course you're not .

going IT may get they used to wooden, but that would be the way to do IT put cameras on you with, no, no one interfering with, pressed with with checking whether not its factual, especially when it's biased because they checked you all those times and they didn't check her with clearly things that we're inaccurate, right? So have two people just have a conversation with this without a time constraint. And also this idea, they cut off the the microphone.

No crowd, no crowd.

Crazy too, because you're .

good at work in crowd of crowds. But I had, no, so they gave me an alternative. I don't think you wanted to be.

Why did they want no crowd?

Because if I think they thought I was going to accept IT, so I believe what they wanted to do is have me not accept. So they gave me a deal I couldn't refuse and I said he'll do IT. okay.

It's like the mob, right? I'll take IT. So they came to me, they said, will debate job, you know, I think about tremendous rating to that was crazy, but will debate your biden, but you can have a crowd.

They also wanted sitting down. I said that the only thing I said lucky got you, got to stand up. You can't rose IT down.

You know, the old days, they did not done little bit IT, but but he got, you got to stand up. And they agreed to IT was a very tough thing that IT almost killed IT. They wanted, they wanted to have like desks.

We we said, I said, I think we should stand up and there was the only thing I asked for, I said, we got to stand up. I thought IT looked bad for like the public, but they said no crowd and cut off the mike and I said, I can live with IT. I mean, I could live with that and they thought I was gonna ject IT. And then they would say he didn't want to debate. Sleepy jo, that's well.

they try to say that was you come as well. They said you don't want to debate her as well.

by the way, with her. Number one, i'm leading. Number two, you know I didn't. They also said that with the premier.

So I had like ten, twelve guys right in the prime and no stupid guys, I mean, of the day, governors and they said, and not stupid people, some are stupid, but not all of them oh my god said, you have to be in the debate. I said, why am leading by seventy four points? That closes guy to me.

I'm like, sixty points. Seventy points are here. Why would I stand there like an idiot for two hours and let every one of them scream at me? I'm going to be the focus.

what? right? And I said i'm not debating and IT was a very small thing because, you know, I was, they just killed themselves. Republican primary. Yeah, the republican primaries.

Um with I like debating I think the I think you have to debate but I like I like debating like the rosio Donald debate. I like debating when you have a grad remember the american crazy Megan? I was a hell of a question, man.

If I didn't come up with that answer, well, what I was, you know, that was we had twenty eight thousand people. That was the cleveland arena with a cave's play, right? Lebron James, not a big fan of lebron James, but he a good basic of play. But you know, that was the and when I said that the place one crazy and is fun and no, he had like.

yeah, well, Megan said, you said to other people, you admitted you did, but he was funny IT was a comedic .

timing moment. That's what they want to to lucky I did IT because he was he wasn't find that question, but he kept talking. But you can hear to this day they don't know what he said, but IT wasn't basit so that .

but we had a good time. I meet the timing and that's .

the reason why to have A A day I that was great.

Very funny, very funny stuff. The tim wall stuff is very funny.

It's funny. That's a little.

That's a crazy one. SHE SHE said that he had picked him. And this one, a question I want to ask her when he was sleep deprived, SHE said. SHE was suffers from sleep deprivation when he picked in.

which I was maybe taken out. So I was okay, look like he had all turns out. I think we're gona win, I think were way ahead. Now I think way ahead, but it's once .

I think I think they're .

gna look at two things. They're going to say they should have a primary, even there was a shot primary yeah they should a picture and .

then she's going to say, should to pick this guy SHE shouldn't picture the lying about tana square, the military record assisting close SHE was a little thing.

So I did mcDonald last week. I saw, and I actually got ta call from me a friends at google from sunday. That's pretty good, right? He said, this is the biggest thing we've had in years.

You did you know that he was one of the boy who's a great guy, by the way, but he said this, mcDonald ying, I wanna tell you, it's one of the biggest things we've ever had on google IT just hit. But the reason I did, and I actually, you know, you never know about this stuff, I thought I was a thrown away. I didn't think our conversations that thrown away, but I thought that was I think i'd walking and that was only to highlight the fact.

And I I have a friend owns like fifty six of these mcDonald, he said, do you want to use when I think I love IT? So we went there and the crowd was crazy. You know, they had twenty eight thousand people sit around that.

The whole thing did you see? The outside IT was crazy. The cars couldn't get. The secret service was not exactly thrilled, had no idea what that, but I went into the place and I did the french, I think, and IT just hit. But that's like in life, sometimes you do. I thought I was like a quick thrown, or would there to be there for five minutes and I said, I worked here for fifteen minutes, which is fifteen minutes more than SHE worked here. SHE lied about mcDonald and, you know.

proven that he never what?

McDonald has no information. SHE has no information, is nobody. The manager said he never worked there, you know, was a certain place, and he said they never know.

SHE lied. She's a liar. You know what they do? They'll say like or any one of the questions take any they'll say it's the exact opposite of what I say, ivf.

He's against ivf, the fertile ation, right? He's in his exact opposite. I was I came immediately strongly of a and they do eis.

I'm against that. It's wrong on every single topic. And you know SHE changed policies on fifty.

I've never seen a guy change. Anybody changed on more than one. You know you can maybe get away with one her whole life.

Frack in every single thing that he was for the confidence of gun he wants to contest. Now she's saying everybody should ever gone. Fact, we're going to get a Maggie cake.

I'm going send a magic cap. But she's changed. And I don't think people are buying IT. I don't think people are buying IT. Well.

some people are buying IT because they want to buy IT because it's a blue no matter hoo, there's a certain person of our population that's going to vote democrats no matter what. That's sure they are pressured. Their community, their ideology is evil.

I understand why. Okay, you have a all, or you have a, you know, I built five hundred and seventy miles a war. everyone. I built a lot of war, exactly the stuff. But you have a border.

What I don't understand is who would want people to come into our country from places unknown, like sometimes you'll say about a fighter from parts unknown, but remember his texcocan od parts, yeah, real parts under the oldest, also the that's even before you. But who would want people to come in pouring into our country? We don't know anything about that.

But that I want to ask you this why think they're doing that? I think because do you think they're trying to buy votes? Do you think they're just playing cheap labor?

Like what's the idea a couple of years they hate our country, they're stupid or they want to buy votes? It's one of those three things. Yeah they want IT.

Now they are trying .

to get people registered. You and about think about the amount of money .

that you've give them when you've come here, the food stamps, the benefits that even our poor people aren't getting.

two hundred billion dollars and that's a whale low number. That's a way, you know, it's interesting. New york has always been like no sort of like always looking for money.

They've spent a hundred billion dollars on the stuff. I don't know where they and they not getting the money from the federal government is crazy. And because the mayor came out and said, we can live like this.

they investigated.

He gets I, by the way, I called that. I said he just himself died. This group is stupid, but their vicious. They're stupid people, but their vicious people.

Twenty twenty elections. You say you have all this evidence that I was rigging. Why haven't you put this evidence? And a consumer form and what?

Oh, I did. I have, I have books on IT. And and by the way, books have been reiterated.

We have an author named timing way, who is a great writer. SHE wrote a book on IT, but many books have been read on IT. There are a books that there are.

What's happened is judges don't want to touch IT. They would say you don't have standing. They didn't rule on the merits.

They rule the merits never got there. The judges didn't have water. Took to turn over was talk about the potential vulnerabilities .

for elections and election fraud. One of them is man and baLance. The other one is the if someone can break into voting machines, if someone can hack vote.

huge S S. I think he said in public, I I hope he did because I wouldn't wanted be the one. But he's a really smart guy and he's a very good guy with computer. So you'd say he he's one people love anybody that can land at only story building and perfect and .

what he's doing star link and while talking to me, balloons.

twitter and then he agrees to start link and .

tweet a hundred times a day.

He's an amazing guy yeah he said to me that unless you are paper ballots, IT can never be an honest election. That's a big state experiment. We should go to paper ballots.

You know, french did. They went the male and the voting. And I was all, you know, the amazing thing with the machines.

So we have the machines, they cost ten times where a paper ballot would cost eight percent. And they make paper ballot at all water market, everything else very sophisticated. But if you take a look, paper baLance eight percent of cost, and you're done by nine and clock in the evening.

Right now we have this sophisticated machine. IT goes up to heaven. IT goes all over the place and down and a and they say, we'll need two weeks to figure out how to have won the election.

Do you think that by a design?

Yeah, I do. I think I think it's very quick, and that's my opinion.

You're like to have an opinion. What could let's say, you win in november? What can be done to mitigate these problems? What could be done? I know the level that the president has power.

Well, if I win, that would be, this will be my last election. But I think I over to the country, yeah, yeah. But I think I owit to the country. We have to have fair elections.

So how can you fix that?

Jimmy Carter was the in charge of a commission, you know that many years ago, and they should put him in soop jacks and in various senators and distinguish people that were retire. And they came up with the report.

And the report's primary finding was, you cannot have male in baLance because if it's a male ballot, you know, I went to the voting booth the last time, whatever IT was, and I walked in in pub beach, and I walk in and they know me, they is to present, could I see your identification bomb? Here's this. He is that everything.

And then you sit and you they watch you sign and you ruit. There's not a lot you can do. I mean, if you wanted to be design est, sort of you, right? If instead of that, i'm going to send them a ballot, right? IT has to go through the postal services.

IT has to go through a lot of people. They mail you houses that, you know, the house was demolished and the people have left. And IT, it's so bad. The one thing with jmi hara, he had a very strong commission, was no male. And with the only one that does elections this way anymore, they've gotten away from.

and this is a picked up a big way after cover IT, IT used to be like soldiers serving overseas. Well, they used cover IT to certainly push this meal. And another thing but that.

but they use covet to cheat. But and the last election was a little bit of a, you could even get security guys, big, strong guys to watch, you know what you'd call him. They call him in this issue.

They were afraid to go out. You know, we were in the middle of cover. We were in the middle of coffee, right? Smart in the middle and they didn't want to to die and they didn't want to a catch IT. IT was like, in a way, was IT was like a ghost town. And the whole thing but melon balls are bad thing.

That certainly is a problem. But .

other country is the .

most bizarre gum. Never seen anybody articulate in a way it's convincing why voter well, IT doesn't make sense any other way. I've tried to straw man IT, or I tried to steal men IT. I've tried to like, look at IT from a position like, why would you not want people to have ID? And a lot of the ideas are just ridiculous to have an I D, to get a drivers.

I, but here's now the next step, Gavin new scum, one of the worst governors in the world. And I used to Frankly, I used to get along, but I don't get along with them here because you're just to, you know, just a whole conjoined but gavner come the other day, signed a bill that you are not allowed to ask a person, even ask them whether or not they have a voter could be able reason .

why anything .

they want you.

But that would be the only thing .

that makes that's taken IT to the next level right now. You know, you have ID the democrats national convention. When they had at the last time I saw, they had a sign like a billboard, and the the name of the person where they live, how they live, who they held their boyfriends are, every single IT was in a big picture.

That's for there. They have an idea, a big idea. He was hanging like, you are prisoner. They had these massive cards, everything.

And yet, when IT comes about, in theory, the most important thing we do, okay, when you go to a grocery story, you give ID, but for a vote, it's supposed to be a sacred thing. And then IT IT should be a sacred thing. No, already, because they wanna cheat.

But IT doesn't make sense in any other way. I've tried to look at no other. This is no argument that anybody's presented that makes any sense. why?

You know the funny thing about the democrats, the people they all think you should have another words you should have yeah, if you go to the people, mr. Shorts, mrs. Smith, mr.

mrs. Jones, sure. They say, of course. yeah. Democrats, they say yes, is the politicians that don't want IT like summer. And these guys, I don't want IT because they want to be able to cheat, because, you know what, if they didn't have IT? Okay, who is gonna te for somebody that wants open borders?

Who is gona vote for somebody that wants to have men playing and women, which, you know, I have never had one person come up to me and say, present, you've got ta do something to allow men to play in women sports. Have you ever just like i've never been called by a pulsate, I tell you, by little theory and posture, okay, i'm get myself in trouble with somebody things, but I don't really care. Nobody's ever come up to me and said, we want to have men play and women sports.

And you know, I had a funny thing at a property ion in california. I have a woman, was a very good athlete, and he works. There is a manager.

And brian earl ker, the big chicago bears, great player, you know, ten times all. So, I guess whole of fame, a great guy, big, strong guy. And then he said, all, he's one of my favorite ite athletes.

Can I have a big? I took a picture, I said, and I notice, ed, he was the size of his leg. His leg was bigger than he was. And I put IT out, should men play and whoever? But the whole if is just so ridiculous.

What's one of the most bizarre, polar ized ideas that's promoted by the life?

Now, unless you're gonna cheat in elections, you never going to get, nobody wants IT, I don't know. Get, anybody wants IT, I never. I've been told everything. You know, you can.

Some people with this, I don't know anybody that wants open boras nobodies ever come up to me say, present, you're gotta let the world come into our country now if they won so they have twenty one million. I think it's much child, because you've got away, you know GTA ways. They just walk in.

They are. And the other thing you have is human trafficking. You have trafficking and the traffic and women, and they're going wild.

Now we used to, you know what, you have to look at trunk of cars. Can you believe that they put women in trunk? You put three women in a trunk? These people as savages are horrible.

The worst people that you and they make, the kind of money they make on drugs they're almost making on traffic now. And the thing that made IT hot is the internet. That's what, you know, you think of IT almost as an ancient thing, but it's the internet.

But who would want to have these things? Who would want to have this problem? The gender Operations, we are allowed to take your child when he goes to school and turn them to a male to a female without parental consent.

Who wants this? Does anybody want this? I've never heard of anyone, and I can go into ten different things.

The only way they get him is by no, already. You can't have already. They don't want any. They want to cheat. There's only one reason because the voter ID is so basic, it's the most basic thing.

very basic.

Who would want this? They want IT so they can cheat because their policies are no good. Their take, they're very smart. When IT comes to that, they they're very smart, although they're not smart in terms of politics in a way, because what do they have that people want? They really don't have.

They give a way a lot of health care, a lot of stuff, but for the most part, their policies are terrible. Their policy and military. She's running on a taxi.

She's going to raise your taxes. You're going to hit this. We are going to raise your taxes and the people slap. But who is going to win with her? All my life I grew up with politicians lower taxes SHE is she's politicking that we are going to raise your taxes.

Well, they want to raise the ideas. You want to .

raise your taxes to .

the high really does work. And billionaire or not paying their fair share narrative, and it's a narrative that appeals to people that are not doing well. They'll get our problems. Are these rich people are not paying to axis the problems .

in the rich people gonna ve, and they are going to close up their companies, and then the other people aren't going to have jobs. You know, that's what happens. That does the whole cause.

You you brought IT up. I'll tell what we just uh, I don't a very good job in Virginia lykon. I don't know if you like him and not like I don't know, but you know of the governor of Virginia.

So we have a case where they found thousands of illegal ballots. A judge just ruled that they have to be able to vote. Just happened today. Just before I walked in here, I heard a judge just ruled that you have to keep those people and their illegal, illegal votes. Now I think they'll be overturned at the next court.

One thing I found because I had a couple of things that they get overturned a little bit, you know, the system because the system, you have to hope that the apology dance are honest, otherwise we don't have a country anymore. Very important. But the whole thing with a legal baLance is going to be looked. You got to have you have to have voter ID and you have to have additional ID. You have to have an idea that shows that your citizen of the country, they don't want that either.

agree. Um one of things that I wanted talk to about is the J F K files. And one of things that you said was that if they showed you what they showed me, this was your quote. You wouldn't want people to know IT either.

Um so I I opened them up partially. I was met with from good people. I mean, you to look up in good people.

The people that we're well meeting, mike pompeo was one of them, is a good person. They called me this, sir would rather have you not after. And I did open them, but I was asked by some people not to up.

There's a more loose a king file too. By the way, I did like to say, I don't know, you know, but there is that, but but gfk in particular. So they call a lot of good people, call me people that know that you would find reasonable people, and they ask me not to do IT. So I said, well, i'll loit for another time, but if I when i'm going .

to open them up, i'm just good to and he's .

addresses people that are still living. There are people that are affected and there could be some national security reason that for, you know, that I don't have to necessarily know about, but some very good, talented people ask me not to do IT. I opened IT up and then they said, would IT be possible for us to do that a .

different day. But nobody of IT did you .

read into I. Think it's going to be just fine to open. And let me put in that way, I think it's fine.

It's going to be time. It's cleansing. You are really, really a cleena. So i'm going to do what i'm going to do IT immediately, almost immediately .

upon entering office. Well, think what people look at IT from the outside and you sort of imagine what could be a reason why they would not release those files. IT would be there's people that were implicated between the assassination.

Well, when they are living people, you generally tend not to anna do IT when people are still living.

living people that formally work .

for the government, for the government and living people that were somehow involved in IT. And you tend not to do that, but it's time to open up. Um I can tell you whether or not ah they grafite anything of interest and I did partially or but I think i've opened fifty percent, but I was asked not to do IT and I thought that was a reasonable less.

But now i'm going to do that. I'm going to do very soon. There's a lot of interesting in one of things.

There's a lot of interested in the people coming from space. No, yes. And I know .

you how much tell about really they tell. How much can you tell? How does that work? Is IT like super cut?

Tell me based on hunter by I can say whatever I right, but but I interviewed a few people. It's never been my thing. I have to be honest. I have never been a believe. I have people that area of fifty one or whatever IT is about, I think, is the number one tours attraction in the whole country yourself.

The area fifty one, right?

Do you know that right? I know anyway, but it's a big so I interviews jet pilots. Let's say they show a sad thing. If you saw them.

you'd love to have a mission. I've had a couple in here to matter, David favor. I had him in who that citing in two thousand four, very, very compelling with visual video evidence rate, our evidence. I grave.

I don't believe his name, but I interviewed jet pilots that were solid people. The perfect, I mean, great piles is great everything. And they said we had saw things so that were very strange, like a around ball.

But IT wasn't a comment or a media. IT was something. And IT was going four times faster than in twenty two, which is a very fast plan, you know. And IT was round, which is an in theory, great shapes.

So when you were a talking to these people, was was this something that you were compelled to have conversations about? What is your personal interest a little bit?

It's not a great interest for me. But in the interest, I get that question as much as almost any question. Do you think that we have aliens coming, you flying around or whatever?

What do you think .

there's no reason not to I mean, there's no reason not to think that mars and all these planets don't have life.

you know, because, well, mars, we've had probes there. Rover, and I don't think there's .

any life there or may be .

his life that we don't know that maybe there is life there. One point time. This is a speculation about mars, that mars had an atmosphere at one point time a long time ago that could support life.

IT also also had large bodies of water. But we've had no evidence of even bacteria life that exists on mars. But the universe, a big thing for me.

I mean, when I looked at what china did to this, admit they would have never done IT with me, where they put the balloon up. A lot of people, and a lot of people thought for a little while that that was right, one of the stakes.

But that's a lot of the speculation, too, that some of these drones that hover over battleships, that these are chinese drones and they are not uf that they could be also there's some supersport.

But I didn't interview, let's say, three or four guys and without tremendous interest if you had them, as I said, you'd love to have meet your children, solid, beautiful people they said, sir, there's something there. You there's something said, yeah.

yeah.

I've talked to quite a few guys.

Well, I mean, just the commander David favor thing in two thousand, four of the coastal sand ago. They clock that from fifty thousand feet above sea level to fifty in a second. I don't know what IT is.

Stuff a bit? Yeah, they saw something in the water. IT was hovering over that, something that was making a disturbance in the water.

They got video evidence of this thing, two different fighter jets with pilots in inside this, know, visual evidence, photographic evidence, video evidence, rate our evidence, whatever the hell IT is, IT moves in a way that would turn a human being in a jello of the inside of IT the g force. You know, what would survive? Oh, so what is that? And we don't doesn't have A A heatless signature. They don't know what the propulsion system was.

But when you fly in some of these jets, these pilots have to be in great shape.

Oh yeah, I flow when you do anyone. Yeah and and those .

are older, and those are .

older .

machines when you fly. And somebody say how my g things that these .

people are accounting are far superior to what we no IT is IT possible. That is some military or government program that you weren't, that they didn't tell you about.

I think I had a great relationship with the military, basically. But no, I didn't like certain people. I would have gotten them out if I thought, if I were, if the election was different, I would have fired, you know, all of them quickly.

Some, most of them I did. For biden should have fired every military person involved with afghanistan. He should have had a lot of fires.

You look at him, he told israel not to do anything. At at least israel is not going look at at a bomb the way they would have been. Think if they listen to biden, they'd be waiting for a bomb to drop on their head.

Right now. He's been wrong about so much. I guess you'd have to say that she's been wrong too because, you know, they he always said they made the decision together, but israel didn't follow his advice.

And I think he was a very, there is a very, the middle east is rapidly changing. You know, there are profits to say, the world will come to an end in the middle. You know that, right? And we have weapons today that are so scary.

When you look, I rebuilt them all. And when you look at the weapons we have today, the biggest threat we have in the world today is nuclear weapons. And we have other weapons too that are devastated.

But the nuclear weapons, the biggest threat we have in the world today, and that's what you I was talking about, the escalation tion with both china and russia. I'm telling you, we were gonna collect. They we're going to do as collect.

You can be careful, slow, tRicky playing with them because they say we're going to do IT and they don't do IT maybe, but they understood the curse too. It's occurs. It's china's way behind us, but they're catch us within five years.

So let's imagine, let's let's say, you win in november. What do you do differently? And how do you change this course that IT seems we are on for world, world three, how do you get us? How do ukraine? How do you stop what's going on the middle east? How do you put to stop this?

Well, it's it's a very um to me is an easy question because I think I can do IT easily. But it's a complex question in the sense that the times change, everyday changes, who's winning, who's not winning. I mean, rush is a war machine, whether like IT or not.

IT just grind along, grind along. You speak to people like Victor orban, you'll tell you. So just a big fat war machine. And that's what's happening. You look at what's happened to ukraine, if I were there, would have never happened.

But what what could you do now .

if you get them off right now, you do right now, um you would get both of that. I know both very well and and again, I can not, I do not want to tell you, you know, for the purpose of looking smart to five people that, you know that say, oh, he was great because if I told you exactly what I do, I I could never make the deal.

All I can tell you is that I would meet with put, and I would meet with him, and I know exactly what i'd say to each one of them. And I believe that as president elect, I would get that war stopped and stopped fast. You know, we have tremendous power in the united states, if you know how to use the power.

I stabbed others. Ds, just by the use of tariff. S, I got mro of france. Good guys like a friend of my, but he's a wise guy, and he's a person that likes france. Said he was going, attacks our companies, I said, and I said, all the smartest guys, I sent my nutrient, they all failed me and I said, i'll do myself and I called, and I said, menu, your taxi, american companies, when I can allow you to do that, all done and I can not do, don't think I could do.

It's already been passed I said in manual, if you do that, i'm going to put a hundred percent tariff on your wines and champagnes are coming to the united states and you're going to regret that you ever did IT said, don't please, that's not fair. Anyway, within about two minutes, drop the whole thing. And I was massive amounts of money against american companies. I have to protect american.

So why doesn't the body administration to?

Because they're incompetent. They don't have to talk. Look, they met in alaska with the chinese, and the chinese lecture them about how badly we treat people right.

Okay, let me think of IT. You remember that I was like, they didn't talk to me that way. Then they are respected me.

They respected our country. Then I respect our country. Then I respect biden that I respect her.

They're dreaming about her because she's in the component. She's not a song person. Look, SHE can't put two sentence ces together SHE talks.

I watch her two nights. I watched last night too was the same thing. She's not a smart person. These guys are very smart and they are very strict, wise, and they're very tRicky and evil and dangerous.

And if he becomes the present, the united states, which I can't believe can happen, I don't think this country is going to make IT. I don't think will ever be. I think I think just really bad things will happen to our country.

And you know what, I look at the outside forces and I say they can all be handled because we have a part of goal, but we're not going to have that potter goal to play with anymore. You know, it's a great negotiating thing. I told you I knocked out this massive car company, could take all of our car business from detroit.

I knocked IT out just by my rta c rhetorically. I said, they're never sick. And here put tariff. I OK, there are two thousand percent. They are never going to build that plant is .

is possible to apply that same thing to the electronics that we use. One of things disturbed me greatly is that all of our phones are made overseas and then some of our phones are made in places like, yes and the chips. And some of our phones are made in places like fox con, where they have nets around the building to keep people from jumping off the roof because they have so many suicides.

Like, wouldn't IT be Better to have an american made iphone where, you know, people are paid good wages, they have health insurance they're taking care of, they can live a good life where you're not buying a piece of electronics that's cheaper because someone has to suffer a horrible in a horrible way. That's not even legal in the united states. Some even legal to have them worked that way in the united states. So they get these people .

to build them overseas, do IT. But they just say that chip deal so bad, we put a billions of dollars for rich companies to come and and borrow the money and build chip companies. And they're not going to give us the good companies anyway.

All you had to do is George I M terf s if you would have put a tariff on the chips coming in, you would have been able to, just like the auto company is is no different, more sophisticated, but no different. You know, taiwan, they stole our cheap business, okay? They want us to protect, and they won't protection, and they don't pay us money for the protection.

You know, the mob makes you pet money, right? But with these countries that we protect, I got hundreds of billions of dollars from nato countries that were never paying us. And my biggest fan is taller, who just left to see director general as a secretary general, a good guy.

He said, bush came in meta speech. Obama came in, made a speech. Trump came. He said, you guys aren't paying. You got to pay.

And they said, will you protect us from russia if we don't? I said, no, you got ta pay if you don't pay. Billions of dollars came in tomato.

When I see us paying a lot of money to have people build a chip, that's not the way you didn't have to put up ten cents. You could have done IT with a series of tears. And other words, you tariff is so hi that they will come and build their chip companies for nothing.

Other words, joe, you put a big terf on the chips coming in. I say you don't have to pay the tariff. What you have to do is build a plant in the united states.

We didn't have to give them the money to build a plan. Besides that, they are very rich companies. These chip companies, they still they saw ninety five percent of our business.

It's in taiwan right now. They do a great job. B but that's only because we have stupid politicians. We lost the chip basis and now we think we're gonna pay. You can't build IT that way.

You have to make them spend their money in the united states, and those plans would open up all of, and they're fend. We have to put up tensions. And I am in the process to make a huge speech here about little while.

And you and how long have we've been talking a long time? Let's go. I got to make a speech, but I will do IT again. I want to do IT again with you, you or something. They said, I said, how long will this list anywhere from an hour to three, four?

How long we do three hours?

Good will do that again.

I thought I was .

think you are a fascinating guy and you've done a great job and fine. And thank you very much. You spent an .

honor to make .

a great speech. And i'm going say, and I am a little off tonight, i'm going to blame you, smoke in this guy for three hours. Anyway.

it's a great order to.

Hi, everyone.