#2171 - Eric Weinstein & Terrence Howard
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The joe rogan experience.

Jump here we go. Terry's, thank you coming back.

IT was a lot of fun to have you on the first time. Obviously, a lot of people wanted to talk to you after they heard all these ideas of yours and and then my friend eric reached out, he said he would love to do IT eric, one of my most brilliant friends. Um tell everybody your background and like your academic backgrounds, people understand .

what you sure some. I'm A P H. D. In mathematics, specifically in mathematical physics. I've had positions in economics, mathematics and physics departments at places like mi t heb, university of jerusalem, harvard after my doctor, oxford um and pod caster in part.

Very good podcast deep I bring .

back to portal. Um you have a lot to do with all of things.

This favorite any podcast your view with the that was great. Eviot, if you had him in here, I have not.

but I would love to, because IT seems to me like that's the conversation I wanted.

Listen, I like you to corner him because I believe the greasy man was a secret. common. I really do this song about the way he edited grizly man, I like this mother fucker is being funny on purpose.

I know he is. I know he's like editing these like short clipsed. So it's the guy so ridiculous that you start laughing.

I didn't see IT because you have seen really only have different taste by about I need to also say I was not terrance. I think you know I heard about tmc. Um I am I was not looking for a debate.

I wanted to make sure that terrans had his position, steel man, so that anything that he didn't know how to do within mathematics that was legit gave a chance to put his best foot forward before he got, like reviewed. And I didn't ask to come on U. S. To have me on. I'm happy to do IT because a friend of the show.

But what you reach out about the episodes and and I felt like anybody could talk to actually understand .

what they're talking about to ah and after I watched the interview with you and Brown kidding, I realize that you aren't trying to visceral me or anything like that. You actually wanted to hear a well put together argument concerning these things, so I appreciated you taking the time to come and examine these things in love to hear yourself. But I wanted to say thank you to you, joe, and for putting me on the show initially and for your audience for the how they responded and you know, the support and the people that were against IT, because IT raises the idea of critical thinking, because that's what we're supposed to be doing at this crucial time, is the critical thinking. So I, I, I, I think all the haters and I think all the supporters, and I think the people that on the hint, and i'm hoping that today we can move people over to one side or the other.

well, at least we can Better inform people in term, has been really cool to meet you because i'd heard about you, and you're an exceptional human being, really are very, very unusual for guy to be that good of an actor. Almost always dismissed them as being in more on.

or at least crazy.

or at least crazy, you know, like, but in a different kind of crazy like a your super friendly and your it's your recall insane um but I wanted you to talk to someone who's had a deep education in IT and let's see like what what he believes about these ideas and maybe you guys can collaborate or just like let's start from area what what out of the podcast that I did with turn tly stood out with you something that you wanted to.

Well, what I thought is I got to have to be honest. I've been listening. I was not so happy with certain things that happened in the pod cat, and then I started hearing the response to IT.

And I was much more infuriated by the response than anything I heard in the podcast, because I thought that a lot of people just use their position of greater formal education in some of these areas to be jerks and to be really dismissive and pretend that they couldn't understand things that you were saying. And no one, because I think this thing goes out to millions of people and whatever, we just say something else positive about terms. What he just did was very big. He said, thank you to the haters.

I haven't gotten to that plane.

You know.

this should be read the common.

It's nothing online stuff. It's the academic stuff. Academic stuff is really cycle. Its vicious stuff, yes, and it's always with like a pretend smile on the face of the worse. And what I thought I would do is I I can't critique a man if I haven't built a model of what he's actually saying in my own mind that he agrees with.

Like if another words I start coming after terrance and saying, I think this stuff here is bullshit and he's like, I didn't say that that's what you inferred from what I wrote then i've just basically insulted a person incorrectly. And so and if I praise something, I don't know whether I built that my mind. He built the first thing I thought we would do, as I would try to recapitulate what I understand of terra sort of grand arc, and see whether or not I can still men IT, and then terrans can say yes, and then I can evaluate IT. But until we do that, I don't know whether I M xxi reacting to the real man.

I think that's really important. And what you said about the viciousness of academics, I think that's just a human thing that exists at the highest levels where people are doing something very difficult and there's lot of stress and and you attack even your peers because your biggest fears, your peers attacking you and usually generally IT happens with people that are getting more recognition than someone who someone who thinks they should be getting more think deserve, like someone thinks they should be getting more recognition.

They see someone getting recognition, especially for something that perhaps could be controversial, and then they start attacking them viciously. But it's generally people that wish they got more attention. It's part of the thing. sure.

If you think about IT, though, if you think about the number of people in podcasting who sort of have tried to lift each other up, it's pretty good, right? yeah. A you likes all same hairs. All sorts of people have been good to each other. And one of the reasons that is, is that there's enough money in IT.

What happened in academics is that I went into a contracting state in which you killed or you died, right? And so basically the ethics of academic explained after the early seventies he was always IT was always very competitive. But the really what IT is is is is the hunger games.

And um you know in acting, for example, if if there's money among the elites set, people have trouble with each other. Same thing in tech. They kind of fight each other but theyll get rich together and then they bury hatch its and things like that.

You don't see that as much an academics because it's it's it's killer, be killed. And so we've had an explosion ethically. And so one of the things that I wanted to do was to try to just begin by steel manning, because i've been really disappointed in a lot of the critique that terrance is experience.

The funny thing is the scientist that attack most of them was upset that I get into their lane and climbed into their lane talking about science. But here they're not inside a lab somewhere. They're not in, in, in cambridge or oxford somewhere.

Thereon social media. They are on the entertainment world. And I never set up and said, oh, you're you're full of this because you you have no business doing this but they get upset that i'm talking about the the foundation of problems associated with mathematics that held us black.

I think I think we care about these ideas though what they should do is talk about the ideas is a personal attacks that are attached to the ideas that people that want to be taken seriously is fucked the whole thing up because like either your correct or you're incorrect, tell me what you think is right and then you tell me what you think is right. Let's work this out. But this personal attached, if you're talking about something as complexes, the things you discussed on this podcast, there's no room for bulls shit to no room for bullshit you dealing with such highly .

complex and says that, to his credit, I found that interview .

you were doing with, and they had a shooting. I had to do the interview in between shots.

It's amazing. It's amazing interview with the wake up.

It's amazing. But I remember that line from high heels.

but that we head on. But but you can pull that we go off. You can just start to speaking at oxford with that we go on. fucker.

But anyway, the terms was there wigged out. And he was saying was literally that. And he was saying, the things that, look, all I care about is the truth.

And that freed me up to come on, right? Because I the spectrum of terrans, from the best to the worst, is a broad spectrum. And he seriously wants to improve what he's doing. He cares about IT. And if I can know, if I can be play a part in that I think you love.

I want to offer to you, I want to, to be able to show you the things that I tried to show new degrade ties and that he would not even really take a look at.

And his c, he did a look at IT, right? He responded .

a long video, yeah. But his response was this ingenious ous guys.

maybe recommendation. Let's start with the ideas. Think we all care about the.

yes, we're sure, but hopeless because this .

is an important he was so disingenuous because I sent him a long email after he sit me back the red line thing, thanking him for reviewing IT and saying, look forward to when we can discuss these things because I sent IT the treats to him so we could discuss that on the show. Hit his whole point was i'm going to bring you on my show and we're going to talk. So there's this stuff that we're going to talk about that I would like to talk about.

He never followed up from that point forward to sent one line emails. Any other thing you got to got to go to somebody else so he's pretended like all I was trying to be, you know, very helpful. But that's not what the email trail show.

So he did make this one very large response though, right? He did. He did go over the treats very like all red one.

So he only are so much time, you know, he might be in a position to defend him, but he might be in a position was like, look, I just said when I said about other stuff, good luck. I don't have the time to look, sit here and discuss these things in depth. And that's great.

That's great. But it's like you invited me to come and do your show. I put this stuff together to come and talk to you on your show and then there's no follow .

up with the show. Got IT how wears the beer? I mean, I understand you. You're .

perspective for sure .

if you got the point. It's like like if a thing where he thinks it's ridiculous and he doesn't want .

to engage IT dict ous, and I believe that, but if you get ninety seven, ninety eight patterns and four super symmetrical systems that you're claim ing, you have and all .

you need is someone .

to review that be great is about and .

and I love, I love. I grew .

up watching him and I appreciate what is the problem.

We're defending him by them because he is .

a complicated guy. And part of what's going on is, is that there's a problem in general, which we scientists do not behave honestly with respect to certain things, will make these claims about. Science is about communication and chAllenging ideas and and all of these things, and everybody can be a scientist, and all these sorts of things that we say, science is interesting.

Science is fun. Well, very often it's not interesting. Very often it's not fun.

Very often you can't really say that everybody can do science because it's super demanding um we don't welcome people um you know you're an athlete cian too will say that to kids and then the kid will say something and they will say, be quiet yeah and so well, this is not about this is not peculiar to neil. It's like science in general has portraiture as a place where everyone's welcome. We debate out the ideas.

We have the scientific method to tell us what's true and what isn't. And that's disingenuous, if not really how the game works. And this is going to involve peer reviews, can involve people who are dool in terms of both doing research and being public figures.

People who are public figures who we think of these researchers aren't really do much research. People who are, you know, pushing crazy agendas in public without a recognition that their colleagues don't think much of what they're doing. I mean, this is a very complicated story that terrance has walked into.

And I have to think about my colleagues and I have to think about how they hear things, what they will say. And so I am in part speaking to your audience, but i'm also partially speaking to a thousand people who are seeing this at a different level. So so but .

just for the record, like I said, I grew up watching you and having someone that was light skin that looked like me up there, making these grand steps towards helping people to understand. I admire him, and I still would like the opportunity to sit down and show him these things and have that beer, because I think that he will be pleased once he sees the supersymmetry associated with the and understand where all of the passion came from. And I hope that other scientists will take a look at IT. But that's the whole point of us do.

And don't know how seriously is about that beer? No, I saw him say that, right? And you know, that was a very complicated thing that he did.

And IT had many layers as to whether or not you took IT on the surface, you took the hidden meaning, and you took the meaning below that. And so plunging right into that from the beginning, in my opinion, is not served a very well by having three of us here. Because the first thing is, what is the nature of Terence's idea? I don't think you actually understood. Some of your idea is, to be entirely honest.

no. And what he forget is when I say one times, one equals two. That's a metaphor for chAllenging the status quote, despite the fact that the square root of two has all of its issues when you cupid or you multiply by two, which creates a contradiction.

The fact, despite the fact that the square root of of two has a problem in with the prime numbers, the fact that they called number two a prime number when it's clearly a composition number, any other prime number, and i'll jump into this, any prime number that you subtract from another prime number, you always get a composition number, except with the situation of the number two. And there are so many people that and that's why that the prime numbers are unpredictable because of that problem associated. So there's been a problem with two for so long .

to is different. I mean, you will find that um mathematicians will often talk about a proving something for characteristic not equal to do so. The single out two is being just very, very different. So looked that up when you .

when we because in part .

of what you're saying, the prime too to IT does belong is a prime but IT is also special. And in other words, I have the opportunity to strong you, if I want to, because what you just said sounded crazy. And I also have the possibility to steal menu.

So all the algebraic apologists just heard for characteristic that equals to two, like, say, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fair. And so in part by just jumping into the middle of this, we don't have the benefit of putting your best foot forward because you know, if you say one, one times one equals two, everybody knows that that's crazy.

But what you actually may mean and what the fact that you don't use certain terms or the fact that you use certain pronunciations communicate to me something very positive, which is that you taught yourself, you learn this stuff from reading about IT because nobody taught you. You you wouldn't pronounce certain words the way you pronounce them. true.

yeah. So you know, in part, you always have the ability to make fun of somebody who pronounced a word the way it's read on the page. And then you also have the opportunity, they holly cow, that I actually taught himself. That's more impressive.

And so so in part, what I want to do is I want to start by giving you your best, your best foot forward and see if I even understood what you said when you went into this whole flower of life riff, that becomes your your larger theory. And the only way I know how to do this is to see whether or not I actually grasped, because now I have to spend some time, I didn't spend a time of time, but, you know, my time is valuable. Your time is valuable.

So that, yes, I will follow your what's .

going on with .

the number two c is what?

Up with two.

two is different, because what he said, that the fact that the even odd distinction in that.

although the two different.

that was so the problem that is that associated with the number two is because of the identity principle, which I call the gym cro laws of mathematics, that eight .

times when you, I know neighbor .

d you're .

the metal hood right now.

try to keep the black man down. No.

you get you. You have a mario on front who argued about the the problems associated with the identity principle. You get, go curt, go deal.

Who talked about that? You talk, you get whales. All of them said that made IT, made everything incommensurable just because they gave that identity principal to the number one. And that has been the stumbling block for mathematicians because it's what's held everybody behind because they keep trying to make that work.

And my wrong, yeah, you're wrong. If we do IT that way, I can take what what.

what is. Is anything that the same? correct?

He's terrans has several influences, which again, I don't think it's cleared to me. I have to ask some questions to fight out whether I am even right but one of the problems is is I may be wrong about my model of terrence is the first time of meeting and I didn't know he was before the podcast and um I just I need to know whether or not i'm even building the right model of terrence because oh wise it's just silly to have me here and i'm going to critique what I build my own mind from currencies words right .

what I would love, what I was hoping is that you would be able to explain um your geometric unity model.

That's a different day. This about you.

okay. Then then all right then.

but you guys could definitely get IT, that could be a whole other podcast. But um what about what he was saying is incorrect just now?

He's saying things that are often at a level that are already oral, and you could make them. So terran sometimes mentioned something called category theory, right? And there's a weird way in which category theory can take something that seems to be an analogy and make IT precise and powerful, right?

So you can have two systems that don't look the same and you spot an analogy between them and then you say, holy cow, there's exact a mapping of one system onto another um in which um IT was unexpected that those are the same structure. So for example, we're going to get into something about multiple ation. Retirees has an issue with multiple ation. But so the best of my knowledge, you don't have issue with addition.

I don't have an issue. I don't have an issue with .

multiplication either. One times one is what .

one times one should equal two. And action times in action, if you can show me one place in the unit shift, no, no, no. Show me one place in the universe, one natural observable phenomenon, where one times one equals one, where an action times and action doesn't have a rest.

So then you just win into some. There's a concept of called logo monkey, which is arguing over words. And what you want is not to be caught. If I can beat you in a word game, or you can .

beat me in a word game.

you had way. I heard you with B, B, king, where he was having trouble improving on the spy, and your mind just rescued him with a partial.

I really appreciate that he had to. I was scared to play guitar to with them. I had to put all the guitar, but I was scared. I was scared. You don't, it's be king.

but I say, but .

again.

so let's get to the flower of life because that sort of the beginning of this this exploration.

you correct what he said about one time. What is like? What about an action and a reaction? Like.

so trying to get I was trying to get, do you have a problem with the way we do addition?

I understand addition is the addition and subtraction. And division is all right beat. The only problems I have is dividing by, you can divide by zero, but you can multiply by zero.

And if division is the inverse Operation of of multiplication, then you should be able to divide by. But if you divide by zero, you end up with an infinity. And there was.

There was a great system put together by marko road in um the vortexing um base math system where they remove the zero, but it's able to predict all the things necessary. IT was a hundred percent precise as a model, but it's been abandon or been relegated to the out. Don't know that .

we do do things were sometimes we can divide by zero. Um we have concept like the pointed infinity where you can complete a structure that the original structure can accommodate the problem, an Operation that you can complete IT to a larger, larger system in which that that thing does become sensible. So IT, as an example of the one times one, assume that terrans doesn't have a big problem with addition because edition doesn't have the division by zero problem OK.

IT is .

the case that if you take any two numbers, a and b, two real numbers, right? Make them part, and take the natural logs of those two numbers and add those together, then you take the exponent of that. So we haven't done of times of Operation at all, right? right?

The exponential of the elena va time plus elena y that is equal to the a to a times b. In other words, addition and multiplication, or what we would say is icon morph, or an ordinary person would say exactly the same thing. So in other words, if you don't allow me multiple ation, but you would allow me because you you like waves. So with waves you need expansions and you need natural logging ths. There's no way of changing the law of multiple ation and accepting the law of edition because they're the same system.

The multiplication should initially started as exaggerated edition, that was the whole point of the real.

The precise statement would be that the positive real numbers under multiplication, with the identity element being the most delicate of identity being one, are ison morph to the total real numbers under addition, with the additive identity being zero and the natural algorithm and exponential are group pomo morphisms that connect the two with one being the other's inverse.

So by the principle of explosion, the reason that people are in part and to freak out about your stuff is that we have a vulnerability. And that vulnerability says that from a single contradiction, if you can sneak one contradiction through tsa, the entire airport collapses. Everything that we do just is destroyed.

And so the idea is that the security on mathematics and physics, physical sciences, is extraordinary for outside ideas, because the first contradiction in the unity of knowledge destroys all of IT. You've ever seen one of these warehouse racking collapses. Some forklift guy hit some art and the entire warehouse goes. That's what you're dealing with, with the principle of explosion.

And that's what that's the problems with the identity principle that theyve been trying to work on for years. For years it's ignorant. And J. W. Burger talks about IT IT is what's because you have to cancel a conservation of energy and you have to cancel the the action and reactionary laws in order for one times when now I understand you're seeing one one time, but because of the associated law, the associated law says, if A, M, B are both positive interest, then a is to be added to itself in multiple tion. AA is to be added to itself as many units as is indicated by .

being on there. If I change the word itself to the word zero, which you're going to, there is no zero.

Why do I say there is no zero?

You had, well, what i'm trying to get back to, what I understand.

say, zero, zero is supposed to represent no thing, nothing whatta ever. But they have zero as a number, set up as a number. But to say nothing, your brain creates a chemical structure even in saying nothing. So there isn't what i'm there's a difference .

because there is a difference between the empty set and empty. So I say to you, terrans what what is the collection of kitten that you have sold to north korea to be used for spare parts? You would say it's the empty set.

I've never, i've never sold a. Can I say, hey terrance, what is the number of kitten that you've sold for the internal organs to north korea? You would say zero.

So zero is they say none. Yes.

that's right. So there is a zero.

But to multiply something by the nothing to multiple something by nothing, don't they have to be dimensionally equal to in order to multiple? Like you can't multiple a human by an ant because they're not dimensionally equal.

Well, if if there was a thing called the human in, no, that was your point about dollars, right? What dollar times, dollar times a dollar?

That was A A problem. The people's, no, the problem comes up with a due disable system, why a dollar times a dollar can be different values based on different currencies that that was the point of that I was a pointing out, hey, the due deal terms makes the .

correct point that we say one times one equals one. But if you say a dollar times a dollar is not a sensible thing unless a dollar squared is a unit that you can interact, right? That was your point of that dimension out right now.

In the moment, what is a dollar square? What does a dollar know there? But since the dollar is no longer based on a hard asset, is no longer gold is just an entire it's just an integral in a computer being multiple .

a unit of account.

It's a unit of account, but it's an integers that still now you're able to multiple IT under different currencies. States are not allowed to print dollars, but states are allowed to print as much change. So who's to say that the state isn't saying, okay, we're going to make.

we're going going to print. We can get into senior edge, which is the concept of theft that IT occurs when either the fed or the counter fitter creates more script, thereby devaluing the increasing the unit.

Um the number of units that are in circulation decreases the value per unit, right? But my claim is you're going to do a series of things like i've watched how you deal with people in interaction and you know, you've created an incredible effect. Rick rubin, the hipp produced, yeah, he did my own.

He he, well, that makes because .

the first thing that happens is i'm awaken by a message from rick rob like how come you can explain physics the way terrance Howard explain? It's not a way to get on my good side .

today to and yeah but he's probably best new, right?

He he's always he's the best. He's the best.

I'm trying to explain physics the way you explain IT. Well, okay, I am looking for a partnership at the end of this. That's what i'm hoping to, to win you over as a process.

That part of .

one ation does that.

There's at least one area that you have won me over in which i'm very excited about, but I D like to get .

back what is I don't ve as hang .

the linchpin will get to yeah.

you can leave as well.

I'm trying to get back. Look.

i'm trying to do a service to this. Let me, let me let you talk. You just get to talk. Stop trying to control everything.

It's got a plan.

I know he's A A very rich plan.

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will you lower .

the temperature here?

But you are wear jacket well.

because i'm trying to be profession .

that's various and adorable. Like, I like how you dress me. I do the beautiful tric patter on you.

It's much more comfortable this thing. You do that everybody does that. Smart as you are, you will fuck a dirty divannaia shirt.

You come in.

You need this nonsense suit. Although I do enjoy good suit.

but most of most of the stuff that i've been pointing .

out don't try the controller .

the stub have been pointing out has been the blind inconsistencies that they serve down until you just accept. And I and if I hadn't if I didn't come up with a separate cosme, I didn't come up with IT. If a separate Cosmogony hadn't been handed to me, given to me, that's why I explain that you, how can I be quite?

Because let's start with the flower of life. You're where did on your shirt?

Where are some obvious? Okay.

the life, that's right. So I think the way I came to understand what you're doing because it's it's confusing, right? And the one thing I can't go with you want is I can't go on the nine ticket sy od, where we're talking about both instances and and .

we're talking about going we want .

to stick to specific topics one at a time.

I'll be chasing. I'll be chasing after you and you'll .

get nothing was part of the plan today.

I just so you want to start with the flow of life jme. Can you pull that up please from my book is on page one, twenty one thirty four tco T L C D com or IT should be in the regular thing.

And that blender thing is very .

cool yet which for rebuilding of satan.

know the one that you were talking to, this other guy where he's asking you questions about the five forms. And you have, I found that through sleuth's y on the internet, where IT was IT was doable. And because if you know, in particular, when you do them opake, it's very hard to see. Sometimes you etic become translucent.

It's easier to see. Well, that's why well, he's getting that. I'm going to .

ah I want to know I don't on your website, I don't know exactly where the book would be.

One of these go down, you think it'll be little more so too. No, no, no, no, no, no, a few type into my book. Tco.

that's like what where is the book?

It's you could .

also google O T O E T.

O T O E T will take you to .

that yeah one times one equals. But acronis.

if you got just got A T C L T L C 点 com and i'll be I T C O T L C com right below the turtle to have flow。 See if you just open up the book again, open at that's, I don't know that's what download to the book. See open ick.

that just takes me to this and .

then it's .

not doing IT.

Let's try searching google, O T, O E T and then several, all right. So if you go. And then put in Howard. Um no, are putting PDF should be .

able to .

pick yeah okay, that's probably right.

Yeah, there you go. okay. And then go to page one thirty four. On the right hands side.

you do have several editions.

Yeah didn't even that other one somebody else set up that is probably distract and keep people from being able to find IT.

It's probably government.

Yeah, we're going to do that later. You coming that just tap on, just tap on that that um true right there.

Okay, okay.

So this is and we can rotate .

that with the cursor and get .

a what's great about this. I'll be able to pull piece is out of this. Yes, so just tap onto brilliant drill that so we can start with this.

So start with the way I understand IT because I didn't know anything. I've seen this pattern before, didn't know its history. I know you can t of construct IT with ruler and compass, which is sort of a mathematical thing about what you can can construct the two simple instruments. But what these overlapping circles are is a question.

And the way in which I got to understand how currencies the world, as he says, look, there is a very old pattern that distributed all over the world and there isn't a great explanation for why it's found in so many different places is as far as i'm aware and point. And so I think you took a sort of trouser and approach to this by saying, I bet that this thing is hiding a secret and that the reason this is widely distributed is that it's scripted. There's something that has to be understood that is not on the surface.

And then you said something is very reminiscent plato cave, which is that maybe this is like a shadow on a flat wall, and that those two things are exploitable. And so the idea that this is occurring in the surface is, first of all, suspicious to you because of that curve linear triangle that you see in black. And so you said, I wonder if, you know, people always say as above, so below, but what if you said as below, so above? And you imagine that there was a three dimensional structure floating above this, that actually projects down to this and distorts down to this.

So that's the first idea. First idea is it's not, this is the thing that projected to this. And that's what do you mean when you say opening the flower?

Because the flower, when I was researching where the platonics olets came from, this is the oldest version that I get from all the, all the elemental quality IT came back to them.

But there no, there no time exams because you're dimension to, except for what you build, which is the thing above.

But what they did years ago, six thousand years ago, was draw straight lines with the circles over left. And I thought in in what I was reasoning with regard to our energy, be an expressed in motion, or motion being expressed in waves, all waves being curve, and that there were no straight lines in the universe. So I.

there are several areas and what you just said, like if I stop there will get off track again.

Yeah, but you you should correct those errors.

What we're there. okay? IT is not true that all energy is expressed emotion.

What energy is not expressed in .

potential energy is not expressed emotion. If I have a weight on the spring, which is sort of the q essential, people don't know this, but most of physics comes out of the system represented by a weight on a spring. So the simple harmonic oscillation is the heart of of all physics, even the most theoretical physics, very, very strAngely, hooks law. When that way is going up and down, if the spring is frictionless, energy is conserved now at the top and at the bottom, that way is not moving, because all of the energy is in the potential of the spring.

It's in the stress of the the crustal zone that has occurred with within that, that system.

Then you will say something .

like but that energy is still being held together. There is still energy there and it's still moving at a microscopic level. It's still spinning.

We have to get into what you will make a point, for example.

that is that you what things that is still in emotion, just emotion in a lower frequency there.

moving IT that .

let me show you what goes wrong in the interact OK terrence says, show me in nature a single straight line o and I like your point about using ity and women.

that was that that was from alan. what?

So if I, if I show this deterrent, because I just bought this from the end of the seven, three straight lines.

the straight lines.

now that you would think is a straight, when you look at IT under an an xr, a microscope, you're going to see the Crystal and structure. So again, this configuration is an.

and it's an .

tico illusion, is because Crystals form in symmetrical.

and very often like a lot of straight lines, a lot of straight lines.

perceived straight lines, right?

But every other is filled with the space. Mean, we could take this down to matter. We can get crazy.

We were about what you've see.

Mexican cave is the best example. Whatever the mexican caves, amazing. It's insane.

Best example you've ever seen of craters. Yeah, you've seen IT. no. Oh my god, it's insane. Like a like because this, uh, mexican cave is probably one of the most spectacular things that exists on earth.

But with the spaceship behind, you are supposed .

to be a mushroom to. No, it's a spaceship that the classic you, and that's me with the headphones. Look at that.

How is sane? Is that this was created on earth by nature, is so different than anything else. We see that IT makes our mind go, what the fuck you like? Those are Crystals. how? What happened?

Okay, wild. So in this beautiful thing, I would say that a lot of straight lines, but I have also study terns enough to .

know that is to say, moment look at through through electron microscopes.

This is part of where we get into.

right? So they're not precisely straight at your point.

And in the let's imagine .

that I but the earth isn't precisely circular.

right? No no yeah very far away. We use this thing called the geo ID which is not circular either, but at least it's smooth to be a many different jeos.

It's not good. Does seem odo. The earth isn't round, totally.

No, it's what the earth is aging. It's being its on its way out, is on its way out. Use .

to .

be there. He needs botox. You want to drink. We could drink .

more .

is early. What does that mean? The american man, you should be able to do with what the fuck you want, got damage.

And you're in texas. You're american man, in texas. This, this is a free states are.

what do you have?

We have whisky. And I would love, that's what we need. We need whisky and get some ways in some ice.

We're going to get into the wave conditions.

I wanted show you something that I wanted to ask your painting before. Before I forget, there was A A recently why recently founded online um of these two photons that were entangled and IT looks like the Young have .

you seen this? No yes no not true. I have seen that cause I did not study what cause um I had to .

run IT by you because you're probably the only one that I know other maybe terns. I could understand what the fuck they're saying.

I have a model of IT OK.

I do and I do.

I do. I should. I believe you.

So what are they saying? How did they see this like this by photo digital holography? Can someone explain that?

Maybe, but I don't know what those words mean.

OK do you know that means parents like how they .

could see this a by photo, by always meaning .

to let's the .

process of looking at that's a very good .

question.

And using the same interferometer that that Michael elsmore ally experiment, which turned out to be, they turned out that IT actually proved there was an eat there.

They just there is a way which you're right about the either, to be blunt.

listen to this .

statement in the beginning, look, put the book down and listen to high dimensional by vote on states are promising resources for quantum applications, ranging from high dimensional quantum communications to quantum imaging. Just that the phrase what fucked in percentage of human beings breathing on earth right now have any idea what any that means?

I imagine that you have a state in a bosonic fox space, which is multiparty. Le, so you've got something in the degree to um level of a bosonic fox space where the two photons were created together and that's going to be where the entanglement comes from. High dimensional. I don't know what that means because I know too many different.

I assume that is a term of art in this area and what they're saying is if I can create something that is geographically ally distributed but also linked at the point of a creation, like if a photon decays into a, uh, an electron positron pair, those two are going to be entangled. And if you'd make a measurement in a quantum sense of one, you seal the fate of the entire system. And so they're trying to say is, if you know, if you want to get giggly, people always want to talk about faster than like communications by taking and entangled pair and saying that I do something in one place, I know what happens outside of my light com, so we can give meaning to these things. Then you have to say, well, that doesn't like you to create information transfer, fester the speed of light, you've to be very careful precisely about IT. But if you just start getting biggie, then you start .

thinking you introduce the either thanks.

So the either so either in part, when i've been here on previous versions of Jerry, I talked .

about .

vector bundles. And in a certain sense, how do you have a wave without a medium? And the medium was supposed to be this either, but the medium is actually something called the vector bundle.

A little bit weird that you're no, it's it's perfect because the vector or bombs go.

you're wave in a medium. And you, as a wave, don't know that you are a wave and you know what medium you live in and it's it's funny that you go through life not I just ended what you are no.

but the that medium that that luminous medium either that maxwell wrote te all of his equations off of newton believe that light was propagated on that same medium. The only reason that special relativity came along was because they couldn't. They had misread the results from the microbial experiment because they did show a slight change or some drag. But they from that point on of IT, because einstein theory of relativity was so easy and IT predicted all of the movements of things IT did they allow they abandon a bad .

idea of what the either was going to be. And special relativity. Yeah in a certain sense. And what you are trying to say, the way I interpret IT again, and I don't know what if I if you don't do the work is, hey, the spiritual successor to the idea of the either exists and that thing has properties.

And if you say, if I put a Victor bubbles on top of a Lorenzi and manifold, then you don't have a contradiction. And if you call that the either that's more or less, we work with. And then we do this weird thing where we say what they used to think the either exists and then I didn't, ha, ha, ha. And that's not really .

because that's when they said that space was a vacuum and they realized that space vuu.

it's not a vacuum. How much on in that vuu?

It's all yes, that all of this stuff understand.

So this is the thing, which is, if you step on this thing the wrong way, everybody laughs and says, hi, ha ha. He doesn't just in the mice and more the experiment. He does not understand why there's no either. And then we secretly snapped IT back in and this, thank thank you to just .

look at these .

professional spiral cube. Yeah.

they're cool right now.

I can have a conversation.

Yes, no. So the .

mental freedom in the grass.

so or in person, if you're careful about IT IT makes sense. If you're not careful about IT, the whole thing blows up in your face.

And the reason, and I speak about the either all of the wave conjugations, all of my patterns have been defining different aspects of the either. I believe that i've defined the electric side, the plasmic, the plastic side. And I believe that i've defined the magnetics side and the constitution between I know that I want to show.

I want to get, let's go back to the world.

But before you go from that other spot, if you look at that picture again, of those two photon interacting IT looks like it's at the center of of what would typically be a world pool. This is like the very center of a world pool. So they've got them moving, writing by each other, or in creating that vote sy, that natural voto sy. That's what they took the picture of they looked directly down at something being uh at too light moving a fluid and they described .

how they take the picture is so complicated. Change me, go back to where I was, where they were explaining the um what they use here here is here we introduced by photo digital holography an in analogy to off access digital holography where we coincidence imaging of the superposition of an unknown state with a reference state is used to perform quantum state tomography. What the fuck?

But that's because that's because of the uncertainty and shouting or all of that. But if you were able because they started after and predicted an electron cloud if and and find a little particle inside of IT and couldn't predict IT, so all these uncertainties and probabilities came out, but they were doing things on the two dimensional basis. That's what I believe that i've figured out with the wave conjugations. Because they talk about the hyper, they show the pieces of hyperbolic space to where you don't have to go through all these unnecessary steps to reach IT.

I am just so happy that someone's doing something like this. I'm so happy that we can talk about IT. I think I don't think most people have any understanding of what's going on at the highest levels of this kind of science because it's so damn fascinating. These people are finding the the very building blocks of the universe and study them. It's fascinating.

This is a bit up from that. I mean the tomography is like how we assemble a picture of you and we do a mr or a the cats. Can we have this to call the rate on transform where we send um in waves through your body and then we assemble a picture of what's inside your body, reconstructing IT based on sending probes in and in measuring how the system responds. We could get through this, but I can tell you that I can't read this instantly. It's going, you know, that would take me fifteen minutes with looking things up.

The things I I was just .

going to say it's just an unbelievably fascinating time that we can actually look at these quantum entangled photons like that.

But we just see that. But we need to do a Better job. Look right now where in a crisis where no one knows what's true, nobody knows who's full of shit, nobody knows where they can trust, they can trust, who they can trust.

And one of the things that actually you move me to come and to reach her to joe is is that by default? Um I think you know I I i've i've addressed sed the national kind of science is four times I think um because they were lying and I caught them and so they wanted to know how much I knew about their lie. It's weird to think that this little studio, in a weird way, is one of the rivals of universities when we don't know what's going on at harvard.

Um as you know, recently seem we don't kick our players. We don't check what's going on at the national institute of health. And so it's very strange that this table gives one of the last things that is trusted by many people.

And that's one of the reasons i'm here, which is people have a chance to see people in conversation about things. And you know, you screw up, but the conversations recorded and we all go on. People have a chance to see what's coming out. If we can go back to the flower of life, I can try to.

But like with the flower, all of these things I took, I went up to oxford eight years ago and try to present them there to be examined. They didn't want to take .

me seriously because .

you keep coming the one times one, when I said the one times one. But I, like I said, that was a metaphor to say, somethings wrong, somethings wrong. But they know somethings is wrong with the math.

It's not. So bring up Normalization theory. ReNormalization theory is a way of saying we know that we're working with math that's wrong. And on the other hand, we have a way of working with math that's wrong even though we know it's wrong. If you have an error of a particular kind and you can find an expression with the same error that's different in the denominator, sometimes you can cancel the part that's wrong because you introduced IT twice. So introducing two problems is Better than having only one problem, because you have the opportunity to have one problem kill another.

So this is is there potential future where human beings, through whatever means, develop a superior method of mathematics that doesn't have a problem with the number two, that doesn't have all these issues that we're talking about?

Well, that's what I think i've done with my wave conjugations IT solves all of those problems. That's what I can't wait to talk about OK. It's all. So this is like we say, we start with the techy and now I no.

no, no going to the test, just like you have a story. yes. And by doing the nantais lyde, you lose everybody like me, because nobody, nobody thinks is real.

And what parts of IT are real, what parts of IT are wrong, what parts can be improved, and what parts should be improved to how important is, is, is, is never gonna a judicatures. So you started off with the flower of life, a very coherent story that this thing is found all over the world. I learned from this.

I didn't understand how widespread IT was. Um I didn't know that there was a mystery of that. I know something about sacred geometry is a kind of spiritual geometric thing.

We can talk about that later. Terrence says a couple of ideas, maybe three, one of which is, maybe it's not about that flower of life because that's in a two dimensional plane. Maybe that is a shadow cast by something in higher dimensions.

And it's a cyp tic message from advanced consciousness that will open its secrets when we finally understand. Another was something, for example, called the antique or mechanism, which is a bunches of gears found by this greek island of antithetic. Famously, IT was just in the .

athons museum, and we didn't .

know that there are two cats who really focused on IT. One was named direct the solar Price, and the other was Richard fineman. And they were obsessed with IT.

And IT turned out that thing completely, wrote our state of how much ancient wisdom knowledge there was, because this was a mechanical calculator for sending the positions of celestial objects far more advanced. We had any idea as possible. yeah.

So if you want an analogy in part and trying to steal menu, we have a situation in which they, and take their mechanism, gives you a possible example of what the flower of life might be. IT might be ecliptic instruction. And A A different version of this, the CarOlina school of astronomy, which was a religious school in the south india, in the west coast, india, more or less.

worked out with a beautiful thing.

Well, that's that's a reconstruction.

Yeah, yes yeah, that's thing. Yeah, that's the real one. Yeah but I mean, what when you look at the actual reconstruction.

what they think, can we get the video for the registration? mind?

What year was this that they believe IT was constructed two thousand years ago?

This is when they feel, believe in toomer example of the world. But this doesn't seem, follow toleman equations, those thirty nine .

equations for, well, you know, because of so many different factors, war, natural disasters, there has been a lot of moments in history where shit got lost. Just the pier is of the best example that, right? Like what the fuck they did, we don't really know.

We don't really know how they did. IT venner her dog created an entire film, fish girl, though, just to test his theory about how to move heavy objects over amount, right so he he wrote he wrote entertainment to test an engineering theory. And this idea about entertainers um not being scientists and engineers is just total bunk like vera hurt dog is an engineer.

He's also actor in a cheese ball movie. He was in a richer with some ruiz.

He was IT gives us that guy in an opportunity cut off his finger or something good though heady lama, famous for the technology. So intially, that's one of the reasons I just I believe that we listen to people who have things to say so we could back to the flower of life.

So terrence has a couple of ideas, one of which is this is the shadow, another of which is that um once you go into higher dimensions, you should be thinking in um so you should be thinking a of these curvin AR structures and then instead of focusing on the fears, you should focus on the areas in between the voice and in Christ og phy, you might call this the inner titia interstitial void. So there are several ideas that this confused, by the way, neil the grass is because he said, I don't know where these shapes come from, but they are beautiful. That was like the faint prays that he ends his.

Ek, so what terrance is doing here is he saying, look, the circles are are cross sections of spheres, and the spheres have to be placed in very precise places to generate what parents is going to start talking about as wave conjugations. And he has different ways that fears run into each other. Then he said something very cyp tic, where he says, if you drop a pepper in the center of a spiral lake, a circularly symmetric lake, the wave will radiate out until IT hits the wall, the shore, and then I will radiate back.

And so he's talking about this. He says, wave conjugation and wave conjugation didn't call up anything directly. When I heard him say .

that they would call IT a phase .

continuation well, or they would talk about the conjugate wave coming back, you know, if if you do something just like a garden hoes, that the fix to the wall, the wall youll hit the wall, come back, or something. So terenty is talking about is the idea. And you could do this where we could drop like, let's say, six stones and precise places in water, and then, you know, using super slow ma, watch what happens as these waves in precisely placed places run into each other. Because really, what physics is as waves in collision.

and they are going to create a particular cymatics, which is going to show the harmonic points where matter and all of those things occur.

R that's going there. Yo, so then what terrence does as he has in blender, um some means of bringing up. Platt onic solids that are not the usual so I bought some of these plutonic solids um from amazon and you see that they're all extremely partition. They're made up of flat faces are our best attempt to do flat faces, terran says. I don't think that, that has to be the case if you generate these things from this pattern and he focuses on the teti hedrin and an arctic hadron structure.

we go up jammy, please, so we can see IT as from that, that side perspective over year go around.

okay. So what that is as a curvin iner tetrahedron with spiral, and it's not actually hyperbolic, those are going to be positive curvy or not negative, positive .

compressing.

And I think it's positive feature because those are going to be parts of spars.

The fears are interacting, pushing a negative current.

Ture would be more like a pringles trip, a trip where the principal access of curvature went in different directions. So I think it's not negative creature.

So this is the negative space between four. About.

know what do you mean by negative space, negative curvy and negative space, or different concepts. So the word negatives appearing twice, and that's why we're confused again. You, there are million of these gotch's where you.

you know, you describe the difference .

that too sure if I take the tip of my nose, that's gona be a positive curvy, because I ve got one extending .

out one curve .

going one direction. The other is going the curved in the same direction. On the other hand, if you look at, like the crease of my nose, that's going to be negative curvature, because i've got one that's going like this, another that's going like that. James is impossible to take a look at a monkey sell.

Does that would be negatively curved? Because you have you have things grow in opposite directions?

Cool, see.

Yeah, little .

comfortable.

okay. So negative of, yes, negative you would be what we would be talking about with like hyperbolic space and spiral curve ure would be what we're talking about with the inside of those curvin triangles on IT. So he's making again, I don't see this is this isn't where I think it's worth you know saying he's wrong.

He just doesn't know the language and doesn't know that there's A A formalization of IT. Now if you take um so the other structure that he keeps running across is an octahedral curvin ear. Um I don't know. It's not really a patton's s solo because it's not flat.

If you go push, you have to push on the joel on the side, jammy. If you go to the side of the thing, press medal, and then go to the perp to that blue, on that right, that blue yet, and then you get where .

eight bubbles were. So nowadays doing, is he saying, if I have eight bubbles and these bubbles on each face of this object, this artificial object, um he is taking a sort of curvilinear triangle on a sphere and he's imagining that these things are all sort of. Racing towards each other um and how would you do if you put those two in? He's gonna into a different world? You can just tap .

on each one of those Patricians, just tap IT to go away.

Go away. Now how would you generate? So neil doesn't know where this comes from right now.

The way in which you would do this, I believe, is that you would take, let me think about how you do this. You take the eight feature. No, no.

You take the eight vertical. Y is a cube. And you put a sphere at each one small sphere.

So imagine that you had a vertex ah at one, one, one in three dimensional space and then you had another vertex where all of the vertical es are going to have either ones or negative ones. So you have eight possibilities. So you could have negative one, one, one or one negative one, negative one.

There you allow those fears to increase to a size of square root of two radius, and that will close off all of the means of escape, leaving a cavity in the center of your cube. And that cube will have an octahedral cavity that looks like this. That's how I think you generate the setter.

I actually generated this by putting eight of the pieces together. I took eight of those triangular pieces together, and I put them together. They basically became the basis of two tyrians.

Yeah, you know which? This would be seen as a neutron. And the interesting thing about this piece right here is nature always make things in in pairs, and they're always baLance.

This doesn't exist. This exist only as a result of a pressure condition, higher pressure condition. Jim, if you go to that last blue tap, that less blue on, yeah pets, did the netlist the go around one more time?

That one right there, that touch, that huntin only exists as a result of the four of the eight pressure conditions created how you'll appreciate this tap now, tap on the teaching, the hunt in in the middle. No, no, no. That that went down and I started to, you can yeah hit that one again and then tap on them onto, yeah, that there, make that go away.

That right there is the pressure condition created from a tech rian interacting, and they create that other greater pressure condition that the negative space that they generate. But IT does IT. It's a mastless area because the moment that the touch ian disappear, that space goes away and the energy generated disappears. But it's a part of everything in in.

in the you're putting a lot of words like first of all, it's just a admit that this looks gorgeous, incredibly turn IT around.

jammy, so they can see you please.

So you know, the problem currently is that you have a desire to go immediately towards what this means, right? And before you get to what that means, people don't even know what IT is too, right. So what i'm going to claim .

is i've got these .

eight rumbo toons here.

What's a rampton?

Like a girl, a testicle, you have this no, what are yeah, it's like little. But I think robot is the indonesian word for hair.

which you picked .

those up ranch ninety nine market.

You would have get you some flowers, but the light changed .

if I take eight of these suckers, okay, and I arrange them in a cubicle formation, there's going to be one of terris things in the center, in the center right, except they're going to be there are going to be six holes, uh, for the sides of the cube where you can get in. Now what currents is saying is, imagine that these are special magical robow tones.

I came and hold this thing, and that you allow them to grow a little bit bigger so that those holes close off by moving through each other magine. That they are made a magical sups in the center. You're gna get one of his curve linear oci dro structures, which is the thing .

that he just subtract off he calls the hand. If you tap on the pink right there, you'll be back to the the next one, next to IT. I don't. I should have done that.

okay. So what what's going on is that, for example, is that thank you, neil, can't figure out where where did this come from. So what IT is is spheres of radius route two at the eight verticals of cube, a passing through each other by closing off an arctic hadron cavity with positively curved triangle insight.

That's when I needed you for. As to what I just when I needed you most, thank you.

Pretty glamorous.

Okay, what can I ask you something before we go any further? What was the inspiration for diving into this? Like what revelation did you have that caused you to start looking? This is a 3d structure in the space .

and sign of IT。 I'm they're gona call me crazy again. But I when I was forty two and had been kicked out of the world as a result of the allegations, I would I had another dream and that same being woke me up and took me back to where I was when when I was a child.

And I saw the, I started putting the pieces together, the all shapes in your dream, in the dream together. And then I was like, oh, so it's where four forces me that makes a difference. So when I put four fears, four circles, cut four circles out, and I made the all shape.

And then when I saw IT adding them together, then I saw the flower of life. I didn't see the flower of life initially. I saw that after.

i'll show you the people, because all shape is a different thing, because in this case, in order to do this, what he did is, he said, I mean, to make mathematical spears that gonna start to intersect each other, right? And the intersections are going to be ignored because it's made out of fictitious math material until they close off the holes in the cubicle ata structure, leaving octahedral void.

With this kind of curvy to make what he calls the all shape, you do something very different. You'd start off with a teta hedrin, which is distinguished among the five plutonic ic solids as being self dual. That is, there four vertues and there are four faces, and you can interchange faces with vertues. In fact, I know if you guys have these things, you have is, no.

what is that?

So this is an engineering feat. So if you think plutonic s solids are old, a guy name chuck harbor man figured out how to take the soft of a tetrahedron, and you can change the color of the sphere. By throwing IT up.

And effectively, if you think about the four dots on the surface of one of these, in between them are four triangles. And he figured out a mechanism. We can cut one of these open. There's a gearing mechanism inside the hidden from the public where you get a that .

that up so they could see IT so an audience could see IT.

So as you pull this thing apart, you can change colors.

Yeah, you spin IT spin IT ever so slightly, joe. wo. Yeah, that's for you guys. It's cool, right? Yeah.

that's a very bizarre.

All right. Now my point is that one of the things that terrance has going against him, as people are saying out, you know, he's just playing with stuff people have played with since antiquity. There's nothing new. And then I would say, well, and then why did Charles harbor man create a mechanism realizing self duality of the tetch he and nobody even talks about IT that way.

And by the way, here's something that people you played dunes and drugs they don't really even have any idea of is if you take the fight botanic solo here, and you put the tetrahedron in the middle, and you put the triangular structures of the artery dron and the acai hedrin after the site, there's a duality, the interchanges, the pairs, with the center being self dull. Other words, the cube has six faces in eight vert. The octahedron has eight faces and six verticals. The dodecahedron twelve faces, twenty vertues, the icao eda and twenty faces, twelve verticals. Now i'll have all these pairs have the same number of sides, because the number of vertically, plus the number of faces, minus the number of edges, has to equal two for anything that is spiracle in aging.

Now, if all of my things, when they come together, if they create a natural decay dran and they create a natural ica hedrin.

what is that? And they do.

they do. No, i'm going to show you. No, i'm saying you haven't seen that. I haven't shown you here.

but they will when you see IT. So I want to show to now we're on IT right now, shoulders right now.

Shout out all the home is right now, trying to figure out what .

the first going on.

Well, these guys talking about .

holy shit legally schedule one then.

so can hear them not on camera .

right now. Unfortunately, right, the promise is in the middle of pocket.

He's the family.

Everything is great.

Man, I don't. So your dog, like i've met martial .

for the first now that's right. You'd never meant before. He's the best is a level he and karl they will get after IT is carl warn out he's done.

Everybody .

worked out.

So here.

Chance no one can hear you. I dall. But where we have a .

podcast going on right now.

Okay.

here we go to the problems .

you were talking off in the distance. I can, even here you and i'm right here.

So this is where, if you will go to wear the twelve bubbles. Me, yeah. On the thing to show these, you OK. Can I finish my?

I finish my rip on those is before we get to this choice. sure. My point was that I can, I call bullshit on the idea that because terrance is playing with stuff that people have been playing with since antiquity, that you can come up that there's nothing new under the sun, because there's nothing new.

And sun, first of all, had a Charles harvard and come up with something so cool. Second of all, that means that there's an object that hasn't been invented. I give this to high school kids.

You should be able to throw one of these up as a cube and have IT come back as an octahedron. You should come up with the gearing mechanism and you should be able to throw up a dodecahedron and have IT come back in your hand as a differently colored. I cost a hedrin, and i've never seen those toys just the way the rubik s cube came out of nowhere or hungry. And the that thing took over the world by storm. So to claim that a guy can't do engineering on plutonic solids and come up with something new, the rubicon cube, the hardman's switch pitch, uh, these things prove that that's not true.

I think it's a foolish thing, almost always to pretend there's nothing new of the sun. You should always consider IT. You might not be correct, but there's only one way to find.

There's a difference between you see, terrence has much greater odds of contributing to the world of engineering, then he does, to the world of mathematics. I mean, the odds that he's doing something new and mathematics, i'll be blunt.

are very, very small even though I have patterns on IT that shows .

I don't want to go there. The parents do not speak to what you think that they speak to that. Okay, you can see into my heart. I'm not trying to no.

no, no, no, no, no. But we were talking, I I told you that you produce a supersedes trc such structure.

And you say, supersymmetry, I don't know that you know what a super simec is.

What a super simec mean. Deed turns .

supersymmetry means that all things come together, fit together, relate to each other. They, they come their self referential, and they are from a fro that comes back to the same fractal space that's supersymmetry.

So what you mean is a symmetry that is amped up. But supersymmetry is a reserve term that means something hyper particular, and that's between bosons and fermions.

That's what this is. This is the the boys on the further laming out there, the bows on the cloud that the whole bows on. Thing is, the force field or the energy field that the fermi on is considered the matter aspects of IT.

So if we can go into, he's got five of these patterns, one of which he calls the what .

is wrong with the term super cemetery.

Then I want to see an an algebra, which is a linear vector space, which has a an object called a bracket. And I want to see that, that bracket obeys a super jo by identity and otherwise there's no good percent.

right? So it's a specifically use scientific time and he's using .

term yeah but its geometry is its own proof. Super symmetry and geometry allows you to visualized like you look at the ocean and you see the super symmetry associated with this.

I think what he's saying is you're talking about a thing and you using the term supersymmetry and he said supercedes try only applies to a very specific thing .

because in their being defined, no, in their math, the plutonic oit, like I say before, have a discrete symmetry. You can only line up the blocks in all of those things. You can put all of them together and tell a full story to where they put into each other.

I, I, I don't think it's disagreeing with you with that. I think he's disagreeing .

the reserve term of art and you're using IT incorrectly. Doesn't you're going to pay a penalty .

and I want to pay .

like this is a thing where like if i'm watching an M M A fight and someone's doing commentary and they call a kick wrong, right? Why you doing this? You don't even know.

You don't even know what that is. You incorrectly reference something that's very specific that we've been talking about for a long time. If that's if .

you're get an intimate with your lady and you're into rough play and she's not wear any close, is that a really naked choke if SHE grabbed you from behind? No, a real naked choke is a particular move. Yes, doesn't have anything do with what you did.

So is he .

get hold question .

in in the world of in the world of physics, in the world of mathematics, is there a super symmetrical system, geometric system, ever been produced? In mathematics?

yes. In mathematics? yes. What never seen. Super, super monkey.

yeah. But that's not, that's on a plane. That's not, that doesn't, that's not vote metrically. That doesn't scale up currents.

You have an entire way of thinking that is completely foreign to everyone that I know. And i've tried to .

understand what I am sorry.

No.

it's that I don't think he's saying this. No.

no, no, no. I don't see IT negative.

But what i'm trying to say is, if the reason that science works as well as IT does is that up until very recently, there were clear rules, cultures. We agreed to leave certain things that are at the door, like our religious beliefs. We agreed to submit to certain sorts of things.

We were decent to each other, and that system is in the process of collapse at the moment right now. Well, parents comes from an earlier way of thinking when things were much more wide open. You don't find many Polly maths anywhere in a respectable position anymore.

Terrence is coming from a polymathers perspective. He's all over the map in terms of the quality of his thinking. As as far as I understand, some of his stuff is really, really good. Some of stuff is offensive, and it's everything in between.

Now I am no, no, no. I don't take that offensively. I take IT in the fact that you're here.

But let's get back to what I was saying about having if my pieces naturally come together and form those same things, well, here, here we have. How do they here? Well.

let me show him.

Here's where twelve bubbles me if you go to the yellow one right there. Um Jimmy, please tap on APP. This is where the negative space where twelve bubbles made.

I call this the urea and named that after my older daughter OK. You can take a look at IT and how IT behaves here, just OK. So you can have IT, and you can have a large one or small.

By the way, I would be honor to have anything you make of this type in my home is very cool.

So when I put ten of them together, they look like this, yeah. I put twenty of them together, they make a natural, I cost a hedrin. yeah. Without without breaking any rules. I'm saying that the believing .

this I don't display, I haven't gone through the math, but I don't just .

believe that I want to access the same thing about one other thing. So here's the light unit. If you'll go back to the Green, jay, please, this is the light. You now we're .

going to get into some stuff that's not going to be so much fun, but IT is going to be you are going to get what you want.

No, you're gona love this. You're going to love this because i'm going to show you as I. And what you say concerning here, look at that, put IT down and it'll show you this is where twenty, where i've put twenty of them together, the same way I put twenty of these together.

And IT makes a natural dodecahedron. But what is showing you is where electricity is being pushed into the center, and you'll see these magnetic waves coming out is showing you the magnetic field. So these predict and create a natural detective on where where is these come together and create a natural ecosia header. That's not something that just happens by accident.

No, this isn't an accident. You this is what's going on terms for me. Can you connect .

all these together? One big baller fury?

Yes, they just keep getting because it's supersymmetry.

They all fit. Want to see these and these together.

IT is so severity.

but it's fricking cry. I know what you think the problem is that term.

teach term. My point is you can run into all kinds of terms of art and to feel that you don't know well.

right?

And terrence is like, I come on your show and I do this thing, which i've never really discussed, why I do IT I have this feeling that somehow Shawn carroll fifteen years ago started talking about a sweet of ideas like entanglement, the multiverse, um these boltzman brains, whatever. And people have been talking about them ever since because IT was a very successful tour.

Much of the cools stuff and mathematics and physics that's completely established that non speculative is not discussed, and I don't know why. And one of the things I try to do is I try to show the hot vibration. I try to do the thing about the direct string trip um parents is bringing cool stuff from the world of geometry.

It's approve effectively that people don't know where it's coming from. A lot of this is real as geometry. He if you look at the thing he calls .

the trenton, that is .

to us, the black thing .

is closest to us.

Yes, now. So he then starts to make noises about IT. And he says things that I don't love, which are that those faces. He associates with the electric field in the verge seas, which sometimes he calls votis es. And sometimes I am not quite sure he associated with the magnetic field. Now I don't have a clue why why he says the next thing, which is and because the number of magnetic and the number of electric things are baLanced, they cancel out and therefore to the weak force. And to me, it's just like super cool stuff, and then suddenly turns into horse IT.

But listen, why? Here we have this, those two tatras on the end, they share. They both have equal posts for electric poles and for magnetic poles, according to how I see IT that where magnetism is spinning off of the tips, the vote is because it's no longer able to maintain that center space of city spinning.

I don't know what have you talking .

what brought you to that conclusion .

with what the way you're describing .

the energy involved? Well.

any time you look at electricity, that was one of the things that that Victor berger was talking about. Electricity is, is when water starts to spend to the right, IT cools down. That's the natural nature of electricity.

Electricity is colder, IT. IT flows Better in the coldest environment. So those as its cooling down, as it's spinning down to a higher point, trying to get to that higher point, that's the highest point there is looking for the highest density.

That's the north. North is always the highest density. South, no matter where you are, south is always away from the higher point when you're talking about univerSally, not talking about geographically on the earth, north is always seeking a higher position. South is always seeking a lower position based upon stuff that well to russia talked about, based upon the stuff that the Victory WBG er talked about. But it's a problem with the the definition of .

the words in terms will be your description of electoral magnetic force and magnetism like or what what is happening that is bringing you to this conclusion that you're so specifically saying that something that you literally can even see with the human eye is happening .

very clearly. I'm saying four magnetic field are pushing in on.

I don't magi. I see those .

fears would be magnetism.

What .

does magnetism do?

IT expands the.

you think is it's the same thing, no part of the same force. And cool together.

Jimmy, could I ask you to find a fairy?

Yet what I was trying to get to the conclusion, like magism and electricity, like what brings you to this definitive conclusion that you can so clearly state that this is what's happening there.

Well, based upon any time there is an electric force acting on something, IT causes a cavity. Electricity is always pulling in from the inside, is always trying to tighten the density.

To me, this energy exists in the flow of life. why?

Because that's where all those, all those circles, the overlapping circles, they represent the magnetic field. They represent the radiative field that's coming out and coming back. Well, how? Why does the bubble take the shape of a ball? Why not a square or triangle? What's the part? what? Why does IT a expand the space?

Here is an abstraction that going to be the solution to many different problem. problem. If I ask you to give me the maximum possible volume with the minimum possible area, I mean, to get a sphere.

If I ask you what what is the best thing to launch out of a an old style can in and to stack next to IT, you're onna say, a sphere. Then you have a question about, is that the same concept of a sphere? You know, if I take the three dimensional sphere of unit pattar nian, is, is that the same concept of a sphere?

You are in part freely associated repeatedly between things that remind you of other things. Now you have an incredible storehouse, things between your years that you know to associate with. And your brain is like, I mean, in part it's like if you think about the totality of your brain, it's like a ferri engine in a vox wag, the walk's wagon. Chasez is not capable of supporting something else that you're doing really well. And so what you're constantly doing.

as far as I can tell, the chase I being .

education for education, not just that. I mean, it's in part. People who see many connections are often bad at cleaning up their own stuff, and people who don't see connections are often very rigid and they don't do shit for their entire life, right?

So that's why I like, I love the geometry because the geometry demonstrates, even though i've been autodidact and have learned these things on my own, the geometry is that so improve, like even in showing that these become the decay that these create. And I cause a hadron let if you move those just for .

a sexy couple, this up, up before we get you further away from, explain what you see.

that f super munu is an anti symmetric four by four matrix. That is, there only six independent components. Because if you, if you flip that matrix from the north east to the, from the northwest to the south east, as the line which you flip over with the zeros, the things above the zeroes determine the things below.

So there are six independent entries in the top try. now. The top three are the electric components in a cartesian coordinate system of the of the. And the b fields are the magnetic, okay? Terms could say something closer to what we understand reality to be. He could, for example, hold up a cube and say, you know, the six faces of the cube remind me of the six independent entries in the electron magnetic field strength.

And then the idea is there's a duality, and the duality relates the electric field to the magnetic field and then he might invent something called um all of mountain in electromagnet duality, right? So in other words, if I took the top three, um I hold the cube up like this and I put the electric above and uh magnetic below and then I did a transformation that took top faces to bottom faces. He would be doing something that might bring him to recent research on electromagnet duality. But instead what's happening is is that the fears are reminding him of waves like, you know, wave france that are expanding spiracles. And he's got super cool geometry, that the reason this is so cool that we haven't seen much of IT and not saying that IT doesn't exist and not saying he's the.

well, I am the inventer because I on the pattern.

but you can find out that this prior art later look, everybody.

everybody love to see that. That's so I think do .

I have no desire to take this way? So far as I know you're the first person to do this. Now with that said, you're taking something where he's saying real stuff about geometrical understanding based on A A spiritual undertaking and IT used to be that spirituality and science were hand in hand.

That's always trying to say about the Carole school that figured out almost got calculus coming out of religious verse like stuff that round. It's crazy. Terrance is coming from an older perspective where he's drawing tons of inspiration from all these different sources. I can track IT, but like, good luck finding people who contract this because the number of people who can do this is very.

very small.

But that's the problem. OK I read now. Then every time he steps on a landmine, my colleagues just start laughing. And that makes me crazy because they could help him figure out what is actually he is trying to say. So if we go back .

to his electro magnet tensor, how does this apply to these these patterns in the .

that thing we did not understand until the midnight seven? Remember, I tried to tell you to get jim Simons on this park cast, and he just died. Jim Simons and cn. Yang figured out this is gna figure into a Terence's, saying everything, all forces are curvy. It's not just gravity, which we've known has been curvy since nineteen and fifteen, nineteen ninety, thirty, thirty and grossman. It's actually the case that elector magnetism, the weak force and strong force, are a different form of which might be called as moni and curvy or fiber bundle curvy, which is not necessarily remond and intrinsic. This object encodes the curve ure codes electromotive sm as the components of, to your point about nothing, nothing is a straight line.

But that this is where I have issues you are talking about. This is in cartesian space and in cartesian space, curve ture is not allowed. There is no curve ure that's allowed in an really yeah .

because what you have and but is this super subbed thing we've only really known for fifty years there about. There is a weird, mysterious circle that none of us can see at every point in space, in time that we can derive from space. Ah you can have space, time and something else.

Put a circle at every point that we is obscured from us, and that thing has a curvy, even if space in time is flat, we call the idealization of flat space time. In kosky space you can slap a cavity tensor of a circle on top of IT generate this and IT wasn't until this is mind blowing. We get the enough bomb effect up here.

See if that's where my biggest issue is. Why go through all of those steps to define curve space with flat plane matrix when you have the definition of IT right in front of you? That's why when when you get a chance, i'll love you to lay these out so you can see a predict every distribution, every way form. There's nothing that this doesn't.

I wanted to think about you ever played black jack.

I've never been good at black ack.

okay. Well.

that's been because you're in you're sitting would .

be the over about seventy and you're sitting there on nineteen and you say, hit me and all I hear is hit me on nineteen and you keep going over. Okay, right now, this thing here is a proof there's a gift for you. This says we did not understand classical election megales m in to the late nineteen fifties, well after mister maxwell. Now what happened is we thought electric magnetism was that thing with the electric magnetic field components that we just saw.

If you put A, A, A wire coming out of the plane of the screen and you insulated where it's a solenoid, can we just isolated that we say, yeah, okay, now you have this crazy thing, which is like, you have a cathode red too, but a, let's imagine and you shoot IT through a double slit and you want to know whether or not there's current flowing in this insulated thing. You can see now you think that the installation is going to keep you from being able to tell whether there's current flowing IT. Turns out that the interference pattern um changes whether there's current even though there's no e and b fields outside of that insulated instruction.

And that proves that IT cannot be the electron magnetic field strength that actually determines elector magnetic phenomena. Was really going on. We can we call up the electronic magnetics for potential.

So what are the things is if you want to if you want to hang with the cool kids on any other stuff, you don't try to map the election magnetic fields because it's the electro magnetic four potential that's got IT going on. Look, is something that's for something that looks like a equals. And then four components well hit that thing.

But you just had that that's good. That that a where you see partial derivative of a that thing is called the gauge potential. And the gauge .

potential til the .

gauge potential is really where the electricity sm is happening. This thing over here on the right, the fairy tensor or is a consequence of the real star of the show, a is the thing that matters. And we thought that a was a convenience product that constructed the election magnetic field of strength until the late one thousand nine hundred fifties.

I think one of these guys who developed this, his name is jackie aronoff, who is at chapman university. I think he's still alive. So in other words, we fool ourselves into thinking we understood like remagen tis m until the late one thousand nine hundred and fifties, which is one of the reasons that you listen to your heterodox colleagues are supposed to making fun of them.

Merseyside ly, because you're not nearly smart as you think you are. Now most of the time what new says is, oh yes, one in ten thousand, a hero. Dogs, people have a point. And neil bit bets on the nine thousand nine hundred and nine nine who don't, he doesn't listen.

This thing here is a proof that you can find elementary emissions very late in the game that change everything and everybody who who pretends that peer review works and that we've known the sense inequity, all the stuff they need to understand, the exceptions we've already found. If Terry's wants to do good, he would take that a with the new um at the beginning and he would say, okay, electron magnetism isn't about the electric magnetic field. It's about four of these suckers rather than six of those.

On a simple level, how would you describe electricity?

But I would not to do IT simply. Electricity is really electro magnetism is really about rock, paper, scissors. In other words, is rock Better than paper? No, it's worse. Then you do IT around that thing. The failure of these things to nit together, if if I had turn to give me your hands, uh, I want to, I want to put my hand over yours and that you under gold.

you right and under. So you just go right and under under your hand and a grab is rest.

They go that thing, who's who's on top.

All of, okay.

the electron magnetic field strength. So now make your hand into, like a plain measures, the the, the degree of the assher staircase, the ashes. And that penrose staircase is measured by that E N B stuff. Okay, that a basically measure is is the the collection of hands that we had the plane.

Jimmy show, Jimmy shows the piero staircase, just the people know the fuck will talk about. This is a very bizarre .

optical illusion. So the key point is the penis staircase is not just an optical illusion, is actually an effect called, and those things are called horizontal sub spaces. And the electro magnetic potential, which gives rise to the photo, actually is a series of stairs that appears to be in some kind of a contradiction.

The convention that he keeps talking about is the thing that actually resolves that contradiction. And in a weird way, the photo on is a function, sorry, the the photon is a derivative, and the electron is its function. And you use that derivative to differentiate the function.

That's a crazy way of saying IT, but IT is deeply st level. That's really what we are, were in a geometry in which those flat planes say derivative equals zero. And you're trying to take the derivative of an electron based on this stuff. And geometrically, this only got worked out in stony brook in the mid one thousand nine seventies, except for guy named Robert herman, who nobody listened to in boston, who is offset published.

Well, let's consider one of the things that this is talking about. Again, this is where I have issues because we're talking about two dimensional or three dimensional space that does not not exist. We're still talking about imaginary things instead of talking about real things like maths departure from where member started representing actual things, math departed from that to are now math doesn't represent actual things.

The numbers don't represent any true things. And so anything can happen inside the mathematics that they build from. But when you have the actual stuff, like when like what I wanted you to do, if you could lay this out just for you.

Now, I made these over the last few days. You slam out if you you have to move those other things so you could see. And when i'm talking about the interest.

see youtube video you in your lab put in these things together.

If you shine a light on these.

yeah.

they end up creating all of the systematics. No, don't even stack up. I don't even want you to stack up.

I just want you to a line them. But like i'm saying, if you move this one out of that out of away and some of those. This will continually predict every harmonic note, every way function IT will continue on.

They overlap on each other to wear any size, any Crystal configuration that somebody could hope for occurs. Or this is the supersymmetry that i'm talking about that defines the entire way field. This is one part of this is the Crystal and electric wave. That's not even .

that's one of the cool. Is this the problem that you're in right now is everything that you touch in the space made of spheres and patton's solids and whatever you can spend your entire life. And i've seen people do IT staring into this and just finding cool thing after cool thing, thinking that you're seeing jesus, I promise you, okay, I want you to hold this in your hand is made by a woman named by shift grossman.

Pleasure to shout her up. SHE is a mathematical artist part, excEllent, but not the bath that is an dimensional laus called E A, projected into three dimensions, which is one of the crazy sort of sphere packing gadgets. This is ultimately maybe the weirdest object in the universe. IT comes from a two hundred and forty eight dimensional group.

Let me show you .

this of your life. No, what? You, you, you're gna, bob and rif. All this will keep gone. And what i'm trying to get at is, look, I wanted to think about this legitimately as a drug.

okay? And if you're not very careful with the mathematics that you're playing with, you were gonna get so high you are going to see everything, connect to everything. And there's a reason that this stuff takes place in islamic card.

There's a reason, you know, if I, if I bring up this is another version of the self duality, the tetrahedron. I believe in spiritual and sacred geometry. They called this the amErica a, which is like key brew for Cherry.

Everything connects to everything else in this unbelievably beautiful way. And the the concern that I have to rents, to be entirely honest, is you have to get disciplined about this is a drug because of the wise. You're gna see everything in everything all the time and you going to have the same repetitive conversation where people don't take you seriously because you're going, na, keep hitting on nineteen.

But do if these, if the if light passing through these show the same synthetics that we look at when we're looking at natural ocurred cities of individual frequencies. Doesn't that become its own? A secondary proof beyond the symmetry.

that of what to use? So geometry is a proof. And one of the things is you are your weakest. When you have an, you have an equal say, no, no, you're you're strong is geometrically you're your weakest st.

When you have an equal sign, you say the dump stuff about equalities and you say the coolest stuff about geometry and I wonder whether you mean something like IT took me a long time to figure out what I think you mean when you do this rip on the square root tube. Jimmy, could I trouble you for that portal group? slash.

T. H. Okay, if you do the the square root of two chAllenge, right, you say how is unbaLanced equation? You say, okay, take the square relative to you tube IT that's equal to two times a square relative to that is illogically IT is unbaLance IT is unnatural.

Now, first, I had no idea what the hell you were doing. So I came up with something to improve to you that i'm trying to understand you. And I said, take the number of maja at jesus birth. He was born in the twenty fifth day of the twelve month.

If I raise the twelve fruit of thread, twenty fifth power, and I take the fact that jesus died in the sixth hour, according to the bible, I see the same trendy dy rooted by the number of a passes. Now that seems to be like a profound statement, but the fact is I always really did, as I created, uh, an equation based on two numbers, x and y and your version of IT, I put in one and swear IT of two IT in mind. I used to twelve and three, and the reason I got twelve, twenty five was as the twenty five is just two times twelve plus one.

So in in other words, the danger of this stuff right is, is that when you start to see patterns and you start to see stuff that looks crazy, you don't realize what you're actually doing. What you're really saying is you're coming from a perspective that is philosopher before scientific and mathematical, and you have a statement which says everything is emotion. And then you go into a rip about loops and you say, take out your calculator, turn IT to the side, take the square root of two cubit, take that divided by two.

And you do this thing where you happen in to the large special expansion up to a point, which is increases people's confidence. You got to be worried because that's like the confidence in common. But you make a point.

We have a name for the thing you call a loop. We call IT a fix point X A fixed point. Now fixed point, you have something called a transformation, the transformation.

Let me see if if jammy, if we can bring that back. So i'm just trying to standardize your you're below that. Let me see.

Okay, terrence loop, you have a mapping tea for terrence. From the real numbers to the real numbers given by x cube divided by two. If you take the polonium, why cube minus two? Y I will zero. That factors as why minus square of two times, why plus are of two times why mine is zero. You claim there's only one number that satisfies a fixed point relationship according to that mapping.

Would you call a loop? There are actually three, zero negative square of two and square into you make the correct point that if you literate that for numbers above the square of two, it's gna go off to infinity. If you were to go below numbers of square of tupid above zero, it'll go towards zero.

Zero will go to zero. And then you have the same thing below negative square to IT will go off to negative infinity and above square of two, but allows zero. I think I will go off to zero.

okay? That thing is studied under fix point theory. And you can look up the left shets fix point theory, the catatonic fix point there, and the bowl fix point there.

All of these are proof that you have to have fixed points. Now I thought, why does he keep doing this, rif? And then I realized that he's got a thing about everything is emotion.

So for him, it's unnatural in the logical. You use both words that the square root of two would be fixed under this iterated experiment. Now that is not unnatural. There is something hate to say that it's called the Harry ball theory. Do we bring up the Harry .

ball theory before you put your Harry balls on my piece? Okay.

Harry ball, there, I M says that you cannot comb the hair on a rumbo ta. Without creating a colleague. So let's see if we have any cool images of in other words, if you have a map of the wind that is going along the surface of a sphere, there has to be some point which is perfectly still.

If you have a map of the spheres to a sphere, there has to be some point that doesn't move. In other words, what you're saying about things can't be still is not only incorrect IT is impossible to avoid stillness. And this is in what john nash got his a nobel award in economics for because he took work of phenomena.

Morgan n on two person games, turn them into multi person games with a higher dimensional fix point there. And that a multi person game is more interesting because that's a market. Therefore, markets have equilibria. So you you're saying real stuff in a way that fundamentally just doesn't we don't know how to talk your talk.

Then teach me yeah, no, teach me. I'm learning. I'm learning right now.

But Jamie, do me a favor. Pull up the calculator. I watched to the calculator. We're gonna at this loop and you tell me that this loop is in a contradiction and and says that the matter, the .

science you .

have hit, hit two square room. It'll be over one more. I think that maybe.

Yeah, yes. Um cubit hit. Exit the third. No, no, no, no. Go back.

Go back, yes, the two square cubit up right after the yeah, now divide by two. Hit equal cubit again, excess divide two. That is a look stupid again, he is that an unnatural .

death?

It's a loop. It's a, it's a tuck inside of the matrix. IT does not allow for math to make sense because of the square, because of the identity .

principle OK .

you're trying to say as something what you're saying is wrong.

What i'm saying, no, no, no.

no, no, no. You're saying what you're saying is fine. I agree that you have a transformation that I called tea.

You can put those two steps together, which is cube and divide by two. That thing is going to be dead still till the end of time, that's your point. And then you pass judgment on IT and you say that is not logical and its irrational. And I don't know what you mean.

Well, because here where multiplying something basically three times and it's coming up to the same value as if we multiplied by two and you keep doing that.

yeah, I did that with that a twelfth fruit of three. And you I have a transform just like you.

But that twelve route of three that that hypothetical situation you put up there does not affect the rest of mathematic. Does that loop right there that .

if is your point that there's something special about the square root of two.

i'm saying that the square root of two is a manufactured number because because of the identity principle. If the identity principle was not involved, then they wouldn't have a problem with one times one equal two.

Or why are you offended by one times one equal?

Just because action and reaction? The universe is the separation of math from science. And math was supposed to define physical things. So when they have things that doesn't a line, we can make sense the rest of the audience to understand and like, wait, well.

well, okay, objects in motion tend to remain in motion, right?

That was his very slow.

But is what do objects that rest?

There's no object that rest. So you problem with mr, no, no, there are no objects that rest because everything is sitting on something that in motion, everything is in motion with .

no straight lines in nature. So the idea is you're saying at some level that you don't believe.

I mean.

things at the comic and .

nothing still, because everything in the universe connected you one steel thing, then everything connected to IT also to be still, if I understand .

what you're doing and I try to steal men IT, you're trying to say, look, first of all, the vacuum is in the vacuum. It's roiling with activity, right? The void is avoid.

Stuff is happening. Virtual particles are coming in and out of existence. There is no vacuum, right? You're very much in tune with modern physics on that.

You really are OK. Then you have this idea of math is supposed to be about the physical world is not supposed to be unto itself. And if there is no vacuum, then there is nothing at rest, because the vacuum is going to be in constant quantum tumbled. And then you get to the point, which is something that is rest therefore is on physical, that therefore is unnatural. Took me a long time.

Now i'm literally saying there is nothing in the universe that is at rest because everything is moving and communicating through vibration. And vibration requires isolation, and isolation requires motion.

So what you're trying to say is that if the universe at its deepest level is a quantum mechanical system in which there is no ability to create vacuum, in a naive sense that the vacuum that we talk about is not the vacuum of people, they evenly think, therefore, any mathematics that references anything that is zero or still, or whatever is .

invalid is imaginary. It's talking about an imaginary space.

Kay, I don't. I don't know what to tell you about this because if it's like if I say something about a sphere, you might say, hey eric, what is the thickness of your space here? All the points unit distance away from the origin.

And I say IT has no thickness and you'd say, show me one thing in the universe that doesn't have thickness and then i'd say, well, wait a second. I'm i'm talking to about a mathematical structure that exists is Matthew. I don't want you to hear about math that is immediately refections to physics. First of all, that's not how this game goes up.

Winded physics. When did math separate from accounting for physical things with the beginning of imaginary numbers.

from beginning of imagination? I, me, you know, if if, if I have a picture from A I of a woman that doesn't exist, but not, you can't tell the fact that that was generated by N. A.

I. Are you going to say that that graphics file doesn't exist? No, the graphics file exists. Mathematics has a physically independent structure. IT is a system of logic. Then you have this very weird thing, which is you know you gene vignan famously talked about the unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics in the physical sciences but you David tongue, I think talked about the unreasonable effectiveness of physics in the mathematical sciences that many of us have have had that for the last fifty years since, uh, Simons and in yang.

And then there's also this thing which people so seat with mac tegmark, max tegmark, which is older, which is the mathematical universe, that the math is the basis, that there is a point, which the math becomes the territory. To borrow from my friends in the psychological now, I can hear you, I can understand you, I can track you, but what you were doing when you were luxury is terrible. It's really, really bad because you have points.

And by going over them and saying the super dramatic thing, you are in fact causing people to who don't trust tony fouche, let's say, because tony fouche shouldn't be trust to say, maybe if I can't trust mathematic. Now I have a lot of competitors, enemies, people really don't like. I have stalkers who actually stocked my family.

And if if you are my personal life who have P H D. My level of disagreement with them about the physical universe, the mathematical universe is essentially zero, up to one hundred seventy three. We don't really start to see a breakdown in the, in the, in the community of science, I think, until the one .

thousand nine hundred and eighties.

And why is, well, money, power, money in power ronal big? And brought in a guy named eric house to the nsf. And the university stopped expanding, and they started playing games. We had a thing called the mansfield, and which got the military out of science, which was a disaster. There's a lot of things that happened, but .

imagine if science yeah took a wrong term when I walked down the road of relativity, if abandoning the either and now they've walked down this road, and now they realized that it's a potential data. But instead of turning around and saying, okay, well, let's use a luminescence either, that all of these equations were built to off of and here a Young man, it's outside of the world, has come in and said, okay, I have the wave conjugations that make up and prove the theory, the esthetic nature, the theory c surface substance. So that's what I to tell me.

If we can bring back that the portal group page, I can sort of show what terrorists is talking about, what his geometry, how we relates them to the physical world. So if we could go up to Howard ds unification claim. okay.

So you say um you've come up with the grand unified field equation. First of all, he's doing something very unusual. He's saying grand unified which actually is less than unified because unified would include gravity but he's also drawing from a group I think called the electric universe.

No OK. No, no, no. I'm drawing from Lawrence and hds work. When they were deciding they were trying getting was electricity and magnetism. They could derive all of the effects of nature that we see from electricity and magnetics.

right? So if we go down here, hopefully because we just prepare this, by the way, shout out to doctor brook dallas, who put this together, and just P. H. D. From caltech.

congratulations.

yeah. congratulations. okay. So all of this, these four things are how the community that you're trying to unseat think about nature at its deepest level.

Now let me see if is there anything under there? Maybe not. So go go up to, let's do David tongue, because you brought up David tongue OK. I think I understand this, and i'm able to talk to you about IT.

Is this something? So this is my community and how IT thinks of everything in the world, right? right? Do you have a way of relating what you think about in terms of what my community has wrong? Does this mean anything to you?

If if you remove gravity outside of the equation, you take gravity out because gravity is affected, the gravity is actually covered by that strong electrical four.

And one second without this is not a gotcha.

And tell me, I know.

you know, how to read .

this as best as we're talking about. I as as an imaginary, yes, you know d to the four I don't know .

what the d that's the volume element saying. You're four dimentia.

You're going to take an inner goal and why to a negative G, Y.

to a negative grab. It's the determinant of the spacetime metric with which you might have an issue. okay. So another words you're Normalizing.

You're saying that if if the rulers look one way or the rulers look another way, according to einstein, you have to put more weight or less weight on the region of space. Do you know what that are? Is that the four play and in the parenti size is where the stuff gets crazy. I explain IT that's what's called the scale curvy.

So after einstein did his big general relativists field equations, um that was like einstein scaling the sheer face of half done, hilbert walked up the back side like a week later and said, you know, you can derive your super complicated field equations from the simplest thing in the world, which is the scale of, so when you say everything is curved, that r is the scale, curvy of einstein, suda romani and metric. And then remember, never knew that what we were just rifting on before. Let's saying we don't know what to do with the electron magnetic stuff.

So we're going to do the stupidest thing possible and we're going to figure out how big IT is and square that we're going to shove that into this thing to be minimized, which means make this as small as possible. So give me the configuration that can be the least electromagnetics. Then, because of one thousand nine hundred and fifty four guy named cn.

Yang and his psychic k mills, who didn't do nearly as much afterwards, said, you know what, the strong and the weak force are exactly the same structures, electro magnetism. And we didn't know that. So nature in that first line, from the r to the w, takes curvy four times.

And three of those are doubled, like F, F, G, G, W, W. But one of them is singly in there. And that is really sort of the soul of the incompatibles, not what Edward ton says about.

You can't quantize gravity. That's not the grancy. We've been lied to for a long time, in my opinion.

What IT is, is that the curator that enters as gravitation and the curvature that enters as the internal forces, the nuclear forces molex magics m, occurs differently. What is your money? One is erris money. The line below that iraq in that term, ibar d sii, is telling us the connecting and the interaction through minimal coupling of the matter with the force that in the line above right. And then the last three terms are the fudge factor due to Peter higgs.

Because when we found out in the late fifties, a ga maam wou, the dragon and lady of physics told us that if you put go about sixty and let me be the decay in a strong magnetic field, all the particles come out spon one way. And that, left, right, a symmetry meant that you couldn't put in masses in a standard way for the matter, which is showing up the side. So instead, what we do is we have this thing, which is a field called .

the higgs ws.

On is the fermionic way function of the matter. That's the quarks, that's the electron, and that's all the neutrinos that are penetrating us all the time. That connected term is the d hes tells us how this higgs field will move. But mostly you see in this, imagine that in this room at sixty nine degrees a fair night, oh, you think that it's the same everywhere, but maybe where joe is actually like sixty eight point seven and over there, seventy.

a different frequency, a different.

And that h thing is said to have a vive that very slightly in the world value a vacuum expectation value, because the vacuum is in boring right now. That v of age, that is the potential term that you neglect. Every time you say that all energy in the world comes from connect x, that's not true.

Then that v and there's a portion hidden in those F, F, G, G, W, W, which is pure potential. That last thing, which is not common upon here is called the uka coupling. And that last term is how the higgs fuel gives the illusion of mass to the matter which was prohibited from having a naked mass because of the efforts of madam wu and Young and lee, which is the same Young of year and mills.

That thing that we just went through, which may be boring to people, no, is the source of everything we know about the world. That its deepest level, right? This thing right here, which might be called the partition function, is a final path in a girl of this. And if you could understand what this is, we don't know of anything that isn't in what you see. It's a whole.

Can I get a walk? Well, can I get a .

live for this?

But now now this is the difference between having, you know, this has been they've been working on this for dam near sixty seven years, but they don't have any physical models that represent any of these things. And if if my physical models describe the elective, the electric force and the magnetic force, and is able to account for all of the actions that takes place or the effects that we see, then IT should be a Better replacement instead of having to go.

Didn't do that.

I did do that. Let me show you me.

Okay.

now sounds .

show okay.

I really wanted you youtube video of him creating these things.

I would love that.

So just you, with that, a settle in torch.

I want to make glass. I want to make glass.

Yes.

something needs to make this.

And you know.

like mac artist.

I would love that tyrian, as I say, begins the entire dance. It's the, I would call that that would be plunged to me. That would be the protest. That would be the beginning.

Everything you beat four different things to this. You say one, it's dark matter, I say, because it's another dish. Wait, we want, okay? You say one, it's dark matter because it's inner dial. Two.

you say it's hydrogen IT becomes a tree.

You say, well, look, it's got four electric and four magnetic because you associate the faces with electric and you associate with the vert cities with the magnetic. You say, you go back to walter Russell, who has this whole thing about exhaling and inhaling, expanding and contraction, know it's a lot like a clusius. There's a time and purpose, everything under heaven. And then you say, because it's baLanced, this four and four IT must be the weak force because .

there's no net vu.

you want IT. okay. Then when you get to your if you can bring up what you call the hunt in me.

let's let's stay on this one. I say that this right here like nothing in the universe. The universe does nothing for a single motive.

Everything has multiple purposes and accomplishes multiple things. This becoming the the geometry of hydrogen, or the very first visible element as a result of all of those forces pushing on IT. But the first um no yeah I can use another.

Called explainer juice.

Yes.

yes.

So thank you.

Thank you.

Thank both of you.

So if we start with this as as electricity, then we want to go to the very first phase from IT. The first thing that happens to IT is in decays, the first line of decay. And that first line of decay is literally just putting on two magnetic field. If you hold that for a second, i've got to get something else out.

I gotta say I love this ah india shelf .

and a but for sure I put .

this in my house but turn I just don't see .

we're not done. We're not done, right? So when you put did you see .

the boxes came in with problem?

What kind of no box stuff?

So when, you know, when they lined up.

yes.

then they begin to create. And if you lay IT down on your thing, you can lay them down. yeah. And you'll see them a lion. You can.

I want to design a skate .

park around .

these well sharp services. You are going to get fucked .

up anytime you are urinating. A man is rating. He sees this pattern.

Where is expanding and contracting? Expanding contracting that brading behind the vote. This describes that motion from from that. But then let's let's go to the next stage of decay. The next stage of decay would be IT would be for for sight to know what these are responsible for.

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like you? This is the hard .

part for me.

This is the fun part OK. This is part, this is a part of, have been waiting for now .

let's put this abe hooks.

Now I should be putting the patterns out so that everybody is an out. They're saying, you know, this is in his shit, right? So when you get to this number of decay, they start to come together. They create .

this neat.

But do me a favor. They also create these spaces. And if you lay them out one on top of.

i'm still often on this one.

Well, you're about to see that interact with the other side. Like we came to play today, but nothing .

like these conversations make me understand how different people's brains work. This is different humans out there.

Yeah, we so right, let if I can do some of your stuff.

although I just didn't know what I was. Yeah print of weird tools. The case we're going to make weird.

You're start to see this pattern. But what's interesting, these have reality. These been in opposite directions from each other. But they ultimately. They ultimately reform together to make to fully tell that story.

So this is why category theory and is so powerful, because you're analogize ing brain me, let's be honest, I want everybody to form without saying anything to each other. What is this most similar to the D.

N. A?

I was going to the same, right. And if I was DNA, what would be the interstitial between these two things?

That would be the that latter, each line that would be the, the t cg, the hydrogen yg, fast for us, fast for oxygen, oxygen.

Now, if I was a protein scientist, what would I say? This was.

you say IT is a river.

I would say an alpha helix, right? I would say this was secondary structure property. So my claim is, is that one of the reasons that roslin Franklin didn't actually get a to the double helix is that he was a really good scientist.

And once in a crick, we're not good scientists. SHE said. Look, I can see, I can see right through you. You just found out that linus polling figured out the alcoholics and protein.

And you want to bees who don't know jack shit about biochemistry, want and alphabet x and you want to do new nuclear acid as an alphabetic ix and look, based on the extra Christal og phy of the maltese cross, you're gonna try to shove DNA into something. So you get to be linus polling all over again. I don't want any part of IT.

And the problem for her was, yeah, halley are ubiquitous at all different levels, right? So in other words, what's an encrypted own? The double helix s.

What happened is, is that a very common structure is going to come up over and over against going to come up and viruses, where you have viruses, you have IT in protein, you have IT in nuclear acid. That structure is because there's a patton's form which you're finding here. You're going to find helius over and over and over again because you can't really have nature.

Stop finding the structure. IT doesn't belong to any instantiation of the system. And so everything is going to run. Now your big problem is that everything rimes to you because you know a lot of stuff and you know a lot of similar, is your brains very good at that? And which your brain is not very good at is pruning the amount of rims that that sees.

Well, what i'm what i'm saying is this is defining all motion. We just define the motion behind a boat. We just to find that other aspect, and remember I was saying about the techy about the huntin ah being being a mastless particle.

IT only exists as a result of these four to eight tatras pushing down because of pressure. The moment that these eight atrium disappear, that interior space it's no longer there. The moment that that disappears.

I don't know how .

to stop you from doing this because I to do what? No, I i'm so .

far out over my ski promise you what the internet is going to say the next day about me is how high quintana.

stop reading the damming.

Kk, what i'm trying to tell you is you're taken all the good stuff that you're doing and you get into nineteen and and you're saying, hit me and each time you do that, I want to I want to slap you and say, don't do that because what even if what you're saying is true, let's let's imagine that we find some structures like the ones you're talking about in wave friends, right?

I think what you're doing is totally canonical and it's very, very natural. And I think you're building models and you don't know how to do the algier probably and you probably don't know how to do the difference equation. All that fine. I can point you the books. I can try .

to help the majome ter, I like doing geometry. I would love to work with a mathematician that can define and redefine these bases, bed and write new aims. If there's real aims to be made from IT or populates to be made for IT. That's what I wanted to do with with mister ties with actin OK.

But what part of what you're doing is you're coming into another community like what you said about David. Time is so unfair. David.

what did I say?

David guy, okay, first. Or do you know who David tague is?

I I know him on the internet, I know, but i've watched a few of his things. I was very impressed with IT.

That's why I reached out to him. He's he's amazing and I have my different he's an acquaintance of my I had seen him since two thousand and eleven. okay?

He's an amazing treasure because that guy has a gift for explanation in our community and in a world where a lot of people in string theory have no, have lost complete touch with reality, right? This guy knows every aspect of physics so well that he can explain IT with razor sharp clarity. So he's an absolute, is a national treasures of the U. K.

And I reached out, I said to him, look through, you're talking about the sixteen fields. I said, I have the models for your sixteen fields, which was a teacher. Yes, that's okay.

If you want to say I don't understand this, you get a positive reaction from us. If you say I have something, I am not quite sure what IT is. Can I get an evaluation? Because I think I might have something you should be able to get something from a guy like me.

And that's what I did. I went to oxford, I know didn't .

get that. I went get, then you do the other thing, which is you teach and .

your .

teaching is not good. You tell us stuff is not true, that we can tell is not true. And then we say, okay, I can throw out the entirety of what he's saying.

What did I say that wasn't true though that that's .

that's one times one is not equals to to start there you that in fact, i'm I think IT joe, because joe should have pushed back on that.

Joe is an all the calculator says one times one doesn't equal one because IT .

can pull the group back up.

This is a child I don't push back on. Not sure, because I know that people going .

to eventually, where nobody knows what to believe. And unfortunately for you, you in a bad spot because you wanted to have fun, you had to show. And I got really big no.

i'm just .

saying .

i'm saying people .

have can we go to the terrence product maybe below that? Um yeah think you're I think you're the right place. Yeah okay, here's how we would do this in in mathematics so you work, colleague right? And I went trying to get rid of you and get you out .

of my office, say, okay, no, I know. I know your interest and want to have further position. So standard thing.

what we would do is we say OK wick, I don't really buy your claim that one times one equals two, but let's try to evaluate what you're saying. Then I create something called the times times binary Operation star t and i'd say that provisionally, I define a stars of t times B2Be equ al to a t im es one plu s b b ec ause you r rul e say s tha t you sho uld add a t o its elf b n um ber of tim es.

So that is the formula in standard mathematics for what you are introducing as times. Then I come up with the terrence root of sea. equally.

D if d terrance, production with itself, 嗯， equals. see. So now I have terrence binary Operation, terrance route and the terrence square Operation. And I say, now, okay, now that's a totally legitimate object until you try to blow away times or multiplication in the Normal sense.

Now what i've got is i've got a new Operation, and I want to know its properties, is a community no eight times a terrence times b. Is not b terrence times a those are two different numbers that I ask is, is associated. Yes, that is associated. So now i'm trying to make standard math out of the crazy s shit that you say when you go to oxford. And this is how I would start to understand.

I would say, terrence, do we get anything new out of terrance times, terrance route, terrence square? And I would I would therefore not inquire the penalty the year inquiring the penalty that you're inquiring ing is when the rest of us work are eating asses off and you come in and you say, I have developed, like, imagine if I got on this program, I said, is john Jones out there? He's a huge power, does not have to fight.

I have a one touch technique. I like a pinky on john Jones. Is you going to see a equivalent little patch of other shan stricklin has no disciples.

Guy got a big fat. It's not gna go. Well, no. okay. So what i'm trying to get at is that's what you're doing to us.

I didn't mean to that's not what I mean to do but in me saying one times one um equals two too. Like I said, that's a metaphor that there's something very wrong with the math because math.

which is nothing i'm saying.

the math that we are doing is still based on linen AR projections, even though we are in a multi dimensional space. And if and if the square root of two didn't have that problem.

listen to me very carefully. swim. You have the most beautiful curve in object.

My wife, yes.

Do we do a four time? I don't I don't want to talk about, I don't want my words like I saw I happened to wild Smith name out of my mouth.

You will meet my wife. She's she's do okay .

if you take the most beautiful ski slope you've ever been on and you imagine IT was perfectly groomed so that there's just all IT is is smooth. You cannot create non linear smoothness without giving rise to something called the tangent bundle. And the tangent bundle has made up of lennar objects.

The nonlinear includes the linear and IT actually goes with your philosophy, which is that everything is an action in a react. And the nonlinear AR creates the linear, but the linear encodes the nonlinear. So if you actually wanted to practice, if you wanted to get high, as you could on walter Russell, you would not try to deny the linear.

You would say that the nonlinear part in parsel with the linear, and that creating the nonlinear requires creating linear. The differential Operators at a point on a nonlinear AR structure form linear space. And that's how we encode the tangent bundle when something doesn't sit inside of something else because hear that the universe is expanding using well, what's expanding into? Well, what we do is we encode that expansion without having a structure around IT, no ambient space by saying that the differential Operators at a point are linear. So we've got an entire language that you don't know about.

but let's let's some impact that for something to be lenie, something to be strain yeah that means that IT is IT is no longer having to deal with the equal and opposite forces. That nature puts on everything because the greater, the greater the the action, the greater the reaction. Greater reaction stance, greater the resistance, greater the curve here.

Everything in this universe has the resistance, and that's where the curve here come from. So when they talk about I I don't mind them trying to go in a straight line or try, but the curator of the universe is literally is that fee at one point six one eight. That expansion aspect of that's the only consistent thing that you see in everything in the universe.

If you take the concept of why is the Cosmological constant almost zero.

I have no idea.

Well, nobody really knows. So I mean, him saying .

that the Cosmological constant is zero, which means is no.

He explain what the console gc .

constant means. We bring up the instant .

field equations with Cosmological constant.

Is that the the the um the dark energy that's that dark that that um the the the quantum field that they not the quantum field the what did they call IT the um the vacuum? All right is that the vacuum?

So yeah, let's pull that one. No, no, yeah, I like that one. Okay, so that ARM you you is the reached curvy that is a some sort of a sub packaging of the full features and throw away a piece like filing IT of, and you throw .

away the vile curr level.

Well, these are symmetric, two tensor. Sometimes people called by vector, I find that terminology c confusing. But yeah, in the neighbor d that landa is what's called the Cosmological constant.

And there's a raging controversy as to whether that thing is a number, whether that thing is like the temperature, which might vary suddenly. And this was this thing that where I am then, supposedly, he said his greatest blunder was to put this in. He then found that you need this because hubble shows that the universe is expanding the very recently in the end of the millennium.

They said not only is expanding, but it's expanding at an accelerating rate. That's when this whole dark energy thing really took shape. That thing.

Where was, oh yeah, jim gates, who is probably the finest african american physicists we had brilliant, brilliant y the university of mental and college park. He's a strength theory. So he, I are naturally like montagues in caillie.

But his lovely guy, very, very brilliant. He says that we need supersymmetry because that thing should blow up, and it's almost zero. And the only way that it's almost zero is because the bozos and the fermions of supersymmetry is true.

Have to be baLanced. Imagine that you had two gods pushing on the door, and there of exactly equal the strength. The door doesn't move practically at all, not because they're not powerful, but because they're .

perfectly baLanced. And what happens? Well.

but these are two of forces pushing in different elections and creating the removable object between them to care through the analogy. So that thing has to do with balancing um between two incredibly powerful but opposite structures. And I think that you're negating the idea very often that you can have perfectly baLanced things through five tuning issues.

Now one of the find tuning issues that we don't talk about, we usually talk about them in physics. But the the most famous one should be the one of biology, which is before we had DNA, there was a king named irwin chargeth. And he gave Watson and crick the worst peer review in human history, said, these are two idiots that they were pitchmen in search of a helix. They didn't know anything about chemistry, and he totally dismissed them. Here's the guy who figured out that the amount of a was equal to the amount of c in the amount of t was equal to the amount of g and the only reason that that's true is because of hydrogen finding that fixed the amount of a to be the amount of sea on the .

other side side as and time.

And so the idea is that that was the fine tuning solution. Why did you always have equal amounts of these things? Oh, because you didn't see that they'd been pared in a helix.

You just saw once I was broken, but the actual nuclear tides had been paired. And so they're always the hydrogen blind enforce that one was a double bomb, was a triple black. This is like this.

We're trying to figure out why lambda. We would understand Better if IT was zero or we would understand Better if I was enormous. The fact that IT is almost zero in a world where the vacuum is filled with crazy stuff to your pont, this is one of the greatest reasons, is probably the greatest.

I agree with you, me. This is the reason for supercedes try. Without supercede try, we don't have an explanation for why that thing doesn't blow up.

So if you have if you saw geometric structure that defined and work together completely, would that be with this qualify as a super symmetrical system? Well, and we haven't even got to the magnetic field yet, but you see how these things fit together and what they might do and replacing.

And you have a metaphor, and you have a metaphor, mind. So you have this thing that you call the, what's the tetrahedron one? The tetra tech italian. You get one called the hunting.

the hunting. That's my son, OK.

And then you have a in, you have a different one where the hunt in is flanked by two tech italian.

which you call a transformer.

Because step then. And then here's how your unification scheme goes. You say, look, I don't need gravity because I simulated SAT without gravity. By the way, electrometer sm looks a very similar to gravity, which causes all older.

That's what I like. Electricity is great. The cause of gravity, gravitas. In effect, it's a draft like the thermos, the drive teaching me. You stop teaching .

because you're saying interesting stuff and you just always go over.

You want to know what the d mt.

Of the stuff is. I hand you the stuff. It'll blow your mind right now, where this is is something called the double copy.

The double copy is a relation that was totally unexpected between the ample tude associated with gravity and the ample tude associated with the yang bills stuff. And I just met with a guy v burn at U. C L.

A. Who's one of the guys who brought us this double copy. And IT is a great mystery. It's like looking directly into the equal relations before you have the double helix. So there is a relationship that is much deeper than the superficial relationship between, you know, we bring up the new tony and force of gravitation.

Yeah, then let's do a bathroom break. sure.

Would you do one right now? Would you do right now? Do back from back right now right back you don't .

know who is not the last three weeks .

I live in doing is i'm like.

let me see with bobbles .

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to you was like, does my neighbor IT in terms that's .

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question yeah they anything on I was like, I mean, erick wine staying I said, why instead I said widely because brian kidd's said at widdle .

in he said, wind one steam. 对。

so it's wind .

time so I had to he.

no. He said, windsor.

I thought I said windstream, but I didn't know if that was just a joke or play on.

They get supersensitive after Harry.

Yeah sure. So what we were talking about was bobbles .

r who was a go claim to be back engineering a UFO for the government back in the lady eighties. That's what we were just talking about.

I did see something about yeah.

he was used on the podcast many years ago how fast store that I hope is real and that's we're disgusting like whether not eric could make sense of IT. So that's what we're talking about. We walked in here. What were we talking about right before .

we went for bathroom? We went. He threw up an equation that threw up .

the neutronic. And then what was after that?

We're about, we going Better to do the analogy between electron magnetism and gravitation. vacation. Look at force law. So we have these inverse square laws, and because of the similarity, can we do the electro magnetic force law? With two charges separated by distance of our.

Joe, who is smoke weed in this, were waiting for, okay, nobody. Okay, just the only one. He's the only one.

Okay, so if you look at, let's do the election magnet, F E equals K Q Q over r square. yeah. okay.

So fix that in your mind and imagine that I turned the q one and the q two into masses, and the r is the distance between them. And that k becomes a different. Constance now is to neutronic an gravitational force.

Okay, you go up where let's do the one with the two big spheres right there. So you see that it's like very, very similar formal, right? There's a constant front. There are two different objects. There's a distance. So one of the reasons that I wasn't, I have the same feeling beautiful about that saturate xi o like what the hell is that is unexpected? And i've ever understood this great red spot on jupiter being, if it's a gas giant, is just so stable for millennia, the whole thing doesn't super make sense to me.

It's onna give birth to a moon. O so partially.

what happens with when electrical engineers get older, they start to have this idea about electricity and gravitation, and you get this stuff of about electrify tics. Sometimes people called grivet dynamics. And the formal similarities between these things appeal to people, and they want to see one as the other, right?

Colis a line theory, try to connect gravitation and electromagnetics m super early on. So part of what happens is that terrans tries to say, look, I keep coming up with these ideas of some how wave friends, the wave friends, create these shapes that are related to the platonics, but current new versions of them. He associates the teta hedrin with the weak force.

He associates the hacked hedrin with the strong force. He associates a an octahedron flanked by two tetrahedron on curve, linear, on opposite faces, with the photo I elector magnetism. He replaces gravitation.

Then he says, weirdly, that he has a grand unified theory because he doesn't have grant gravity. So if he doesn't need to put gravity in because of the similarity, and then he's got these shapes, and the disconnect is between the shapes and invoking forces, right? In other words, there's a moment in the story in which it's just this massive leap that the shapes .

creating force, well, IT was IT was the issue .

in which I try to show you the look ground and inside of a partition function for encoding everything. And in order to unseat, let me just given advertisement for .

the establishment, the grange. In most of time, when people hear the grange, an understated as for the lagrangian points, are those points in space where the the magnetic fields meet up into where there's a fella, almost a baLance.

Same, different issue. Okay, like with Z Z talk is singing about the grain.

We're not I was saying when most people hear the grange, an that's what they're thinking is i'm sure you're thinking .

about something else. No, about an object thinking about something to be minimized. In effect, Normal human beings think about physics and equations, insurance ea shorted equations and all this kind.

Physicists don't think in that way. And if you permit me an analogy, imagine you with four forces. And the four forces are analyze zed to the four different configurations of the beetles.

When ringo is singing occurs, his garden, he's in front. Everybody else is supporting, right? So when it's well might get targets, webs 点 Georgeous at front。

Penny lane is going to be paul, and strawberry fields can be join. Those four different configurations of the beetles are all the beetles, but they're different configuration, right? yes.

And the equations are like the different configurations of one person in front, everybody supporting that person. But the beetles is like the log, right? So the lagrangian is a machine for creating those four configurations.

Now, in the case of physics, right, you have these different equations for the different fields. The gravitational field equation has gravity in the metric outfront. The Young mills equation has the photo on the blue ones, the wz particles at front, the drake equation has the matter at front. And the clan gordon equation with potential has the highfield that front. And those are the basic fields of reality so far as we understand that.

But the heck field is responsible for like one percent of the four supplied upon them, right? So that I understand the highfield.

the field, the highfield has to do with the fact, like none of us are zipping off at the speed of light yet we're all made of matter that has an a symmetry due to the weak force.

If the weak force was not around, we would not need the hicks force and hick field, rather the hicks field, to generate, and as if mass, but because of the a symmetry built into the weak force, which is the only thing that has this left dry a, we can't have Normal mass. There's a place to put a Normal mass in the equation that's forbidden if the universe is left. Rate system tric.

This has to do with this thing called the table data puzzle. From the one thousand nine hundred and fifties, we were freaked out. Can we get a picture of sydney crawford?

Is a good .

transition. No, it's important. So by the web dating myself because, okay.

how old are you? what?

How old are fifty eight?

Okay, you get me by.

well, you said you were a Young man. I was flatted to here. Okay, now let's notice how beautiful this woman is in the fact that he is assembly c right? And the assembly has to do with a mall that SHE didn't remove from her face.

So we can tell when you have an image of her, like if SHE wasn't holding a can of pepsi and SHE wasn't next with pesce machine, you wouldn't be able to tell bt for the mall whether you were looking at at her or reversed image of her down the center line. So maryland monroe in sydney craford have this left day simec to them. That thing is like the weak force is the only thing that can detect this difference between left and right.

And the weak force is the thing that prohibits a Normal mass that forces us into a higgs mass. There's something called the uka coupling. So that's the whole reason that it's in that thing is this is a crazy hill, mary, to save all of physics. Because Normally if the, if the world were left, right theme tric to a debated decay, the thing that causes a new trinity decay into a proton and amid an electronic nanty electronic treatment in the process, that process is the thing that denies us mass, and we would be at the speed of light, and we would always up off in opposite directions.

But for the highfield, and that process is the radiation process. That's the process I call magnetism, that that tears apart, that verifies that which was concentrated, drawn together. The electricity that weak force is, is an equal force to electricity .

turns them. Me your question, that's what I feel. I'm taller than joe.

Imagine I chAllenge joe to a fight. What do you think happens next? I get my asked.

Well, joe knows some shit that .

joe knows some serious ship. I haven't advance in terms of weight. I have an advance on terms of height. He's in great condition. The guy knows how to fight, and he's got a spinning back kick to die for. Kay, what happens is I get my asked, you do not know when you're gonna get your asked and it's a big problem that you're gona keep courting because I watch you, you keep finding the space where we could come together and you insist on teaching into IT. And it's like i'm trying to be nicer pie because i'm inspired by what you're trying to do but you have no idea like when you're fucking with a guy with an italian last name in a shiny suit with A A funny colour that you don't recking you just you've got .

to stop yeah I see the metaphor and IT.

And I ask you before we go on further, you feel that the theory of gravity is incorrect and there's something else that accounts for all of the effects that we call gravity. Yes, I think what do you think that is?

I feel that electricity, I feel that gravity is the draft left behind from the electric force as the electricity moves through. There is a draft that generated because that creates world pools. Each of those worlds pools is the gravity or the cosmic phone or um forget there's another term that they were using for um this phone but it's a flowing in is the same way that dermod are are effective by election, by magnetism or radiation create the turmoil that you able to fly on the opposite of those turbos I believe that gravity is the opposite of those turmoils in the electric force. It's the pulling down the same with thermos push shop.

Would think about that .

anyone I touch IT because i'm going to get to the same thing. I'm trying to say .

you I know I am just saying and I could be wrong because based upon what I am putting together is taking common sensor geometry and taking definitions of words and putting them together in a manner by which the the layman sees IT because the whole point is for everyone to understand science.

But you're teaching repeatedly and that is going to be your downfall.

No, i'm listening right now. I stood right now. I swear you right now. I am understood.

And I I don't know how you generate all this stuff. Like try to understand your mind. I try to do this. By the way, this isn't peculiar to you.

So far as I know, I am the only person has tried to understand, and Peter Whites theory of the universe, get at least the theory of the universe. Stephen wolf room theory of the universe, your theory of the universe. My colleagues don't do this.

I think me feel rather you were .

certainly special. That's not what i'm trying to say. What I am trying to say is that physics and science is broken now I will still menu.

I will try to put your best foot forward and not out to get you where we are right now. Is is that the brian Greens of the universe will not look at anything that isn't string theory. They're really like that.

So whether it's ed widen or strong, Carol or new, the grass is in this generosity of spit spirit. Collegial is dead. K, and what you get is gotcha artists, right? And that's all they do.

They're just trying. There's also something called grape and swipe where they try to find any flaw what you do so that they can throw you aside and they can take every right thing. You didn't put IT under their own name.

That's why I, pat, that's why I patented everything before doing IT. Because I thought that might be the case because I went to somebody in my, and I showed him the wave conjugations. I can .

remember his .

name A I. I will remember his named by the time i'm done. But but he said, oh, i've seen these before and I was like, no, you would know you have him because if you had seen them, I wouldn't have the pattern.

So this is part of the problem. This is that what you need, this very important direction. You need help from the community, yes, but the community also seize you. As a seventeen year old blogger girl from innes' a getting off the bus in the sunset strip, having no idea where he is.

even though i've got the ninety seven patterns.

is not matter. Because first, while you cannot patent science, they took away our ability to earn a living from doing science, right? You can do technology in patient, but you can't. You cannot patch fundamental mathematics and physics.

Well, see, that's what i'm hoping. I'm hoping that they ultimately take you from me because they become basic.

IT is more important that you get a small number of us to say he did something that you fool. Some patent examine who has no idea what the health going on and can actually earn a living the way he dreamed of being an engineer. And so you know, at some level, the most important thing that you've done is weirdly based on an error so far as I can tell. So can you bring us a linchpin .

being being okay.

And Jamie, could I trouble you for bringing up the same page over over again? I'm sorry about that.

Just bring one. No, no OK. But we we're dead here here.

Okay, okay. Howard ds, linchpin, how extraordinary claims for the linchpin appeared. Red to mirror Greens, extraordinary claims for the thring.

So let's look at terrence toward filling up the deadly here, talking about the linne pin. OK, the linchpin in is the lowest common denominator. All matter if there's scene or and seen.

The linchpin is the internal dimensions of a tourist. The linchpin is the universal wave. Constructive, or for all things mattered, is the true currency of the universal flow.

Because IT is the common fact of all things, is the small IT is the measurable constitution of a quantum or quanta of the smallest reflection, ultimately in collective potential of all things, which was the multiverse. Ba ba blah. Let's now just watch our friend brian Green do the same thing is a great expression of friends face.

String there comes along and that inside these particles there is something else. So if I take a little clock and I magnify IT conventional idea says there's nothing inside, but string theory says, i'll find a little tiny film ament a little filament of energy, little string like filling, and just like the string on a violin I packed and IT vibrates creates a little musical note that I can hear.

The little strings in string theory, when they vibrate, they don't produce musical notes. They produce the particles themselves. So a quark is nothing but a string vibrating in one pattern, and electron is nothing but a string vibrating in a different pattern.

And nutrition nothing but a string vibrating in a different pattern still. So if I take all of this back together, I have my ordinary orange. And if these ideas are right, they're speculative. But if they are right, deep inside the orange, any other piece of matter is nothing but a dancing, vibrating, cosmic symphony .

of strength. Okay, now, if you like, take what he just said. This is entirely respectable.

This is a columbia professor lecturing me for forty fucking years about what they're gone to do one day when they grow up that everything is just a string and in just the way of violence can, via different modes, all of the particles come from this exciting. It's exactly how you sound with the lunch in now, string theory. String theory is not a terrible idea.

Initially, IT becomes a terrible idea when the string theories suggest that nothing else has happened. For forty years, theyve sought to kill off every single person who has pointed out that there are other ideas and that they don't listen to their colleagues. And so in part, you're going to incur an emotional penalty for me with the linchpin, which is a terrible thing, because the linchpin is actually incredibly cool. So the same basic pattern, which is one thing explains at all, has a terrible kind of.

i'm about to get you, I got, I got to get you. I like my point .

is this thing that you created is based on an error, and it's a beautiful error. And I think people are just gonna grasp ate.

What's the error?

The error is, is that the article sign of minus one third is not equal to three fifths pie.

Garlic makes my .

feet stay okay.

I was everything okay, turns with .

the timing .

today i'm sunning IT may be the whisky .

IT is .

the right. But so what's going on? This is that .

inside of a tech hedrin, if I understand correctly, i've got these vectors that point out towards the vertical and between any two vertically, at any of the four vertical, there is one of the six edge.

What's the angle .

between those two vertically, as measured from the center of mass inside of a tetrahedron.

still be at one hundred and twenty degrees.

notes the arc cosign of minus one third. That's what you're talking about. That's what i'm talking about. Okay, now you say this is an uncovered geometry. Now why is that an uncovered?

Well, because they gave me the patterns.

No, no, no. That with the pattern did .

the patterns, because I have watched so many people come and take somebody's work. So I was just IT was .

a protection of covered .

the patent. Okay, my claim is that what you discovered is a little bit like even temperament. Now even temperament is a lie, you know about even temperate and the going up to .

four forty instead of four thirty two and can IT keep retouching IT back together and keep its an attempt to modulate or keep keep everything start right back at the beginning and avoid the pathogen and comma, avoid the necessary .

experience now now we're talking in the pathetic in common, the difference, right? Jimmy, can we get. Can we get the twelve route of two raised to the nineteenth power?

Good luck with that. jammy.

Come on, jammy.

Terms said.

there's a flow in all of mathematics and all of music. Take out your calculations they want. Allow me to project, right? So if we take this scientific calculations n IT.

On its side, take the number two. Okay, two. Now we have an next route. Why can we find no route the right below that? Yeah.

try to get two.

Okay, two expert, why? And then do twelve. Just put tape in twelve.

okay. And i'll raise that to the nineteenth th power. yeah. O it's almost .

the three.

it's almost three, two point nine, nine, six, six. That is, if we take the national, can you say, I think you can give me a say.

okay.

now take from say and get me to land of the free.

To the land of the free.

Okay, that is supposed to be the ratio of three. But if we did IT on a harMonica and the harMonica was probably tuned, sorry.

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That's not going to be three. It's going to be two point in nine, six, six because the reason we divided that active into twelve parts is that we couldn't figure out how to get three to be perfect because what you said, pathogen in common, which most people don't have any idea, by the way, you have to get jacked colleague on.

we call IT the protesters. And fifth, because when you even like when I put these together, you'll see that there's points where they will not connect because everything is expanding by c and that expansion.

you've got a pic, gary, and comma in the middle of your .

linchpin yes, I do. Yeah you with one or nine point one four.

seven rather than one away OK. Will you catch me?

And I just use a little thing I don't .

know about, I know about .

in the reason tears .

come back, come back.

your own terms teris .

come with.

Terms, I don't think you are the deader principle.

the jy. Well.

parents, okay. So the reason that you came up with an undiscovered geometry is that you figured out something that is analogous to even temperament, which is if you serve a pentagon, which should have three radiance distributed around five angles in degree terms, that's one of eight. But the angle between the vertues of a tetrahedron is one of my point.

Four, seventeen. Change four, seven. And so effectively, the same game that we played, and people like box started playing with even temperament, is, where do you pay for even temperament?

Well, you end up paying for IT in the expansion of the song. IT does not follow natural.

There's no spiral of fifth.

There's a spiral of and you .

know what the worst note is .

the worst note cn between its cnb and e nf. Hitting at the same time.

No, no, no, you're saying something different. I mean, in the dorey facility, right, due to me is an a bomb ation, right? Can we do? Do I can turn? Yes, left, a good job in the city. Let's go.

Left a good job in the city.

Okay.

worked, inform and every night and day, but I never lost the man and left, taking about the way things might have been keep.

Vie OK, it's basically mary had a little land, right? But it's much cool now left a good job in the city. City is going to be the third.

And that third is wildly sharp to the pitherby in third as the penalty we pay for dividing the perfect ocp. right. Can you give me somewhere in over the rainbow.

somewhere over the rainbow? First line .

we part.

I feel like i'm in a box car. I feel like .

i'm a locher pen with the UFO lands on closer counters .

somewhere is a doubling frequency, right? The doubling is perfect. The fifth is a lie, but it's a good lie.

The third is abomination, you until you get to fifty three notes, which the turks use, that you get a Better fifth and a Better third. You get a Better fifth, the twenty nine notes per scale, yes, and you get a worst third. So there's no reason to do twelve.

the twenty nine, fifty three yeah.

Now my claim is, is that you pulled off the same thing by finding a cheat inside of the linchpin, which is, why is genius? And I don't even .

think you know how .

genius? Listen to me, the number of edges in a teta hedrin is what?

And a tenter here.

six. And that's why you have six pentagons. But these six pentagons are not either they're not perfect or are not joined perfectly. You put six motors in these things with propellers, and you have six degrees of freedom. You have an object. Well, so we talk about pitch role in your, but those are basically, if I understand correctly, the basis vectors for the leal ebra of S O three or spin three, S U two.

what certainly alza.

Well, so the ideas, I have a rotation group of symmetries of this object about its central vertex.

right?

And that's one of the things, you can put one of these things up, and with three degrees of freedom, I can spin IT, right, like a, like a full on UFO, and just have a moving in crazy ways that nothing else can move, because a quarter has only four degrees of freedom.

because got the four .

motors unlimited. Okay, but but it's going to distract this. Let's get to one set.

Cause super cause OK. By the way, that's A C. G. I. Yes.

I actually, I saying.

I actually put flying this around. So I want to know, get .

nothing.

So what's going on with this is, is that you have three degrees of freedom, which is the rotations that I need here, but you get three extra degrees of freedom to move in different places. Now there's something called the f fine group which is the semi direct product of s so three with .

the r three group of translation and sl three has eight IT introduces the chromatic .

aspect of don't go chromatic just .

don't brilliant. The best .

thing that i've seen out of terrence hour, I will tell people this is why you never throw the baby out with the bath water. And again, I don't know that you invented IT. And I promise you.

I know I was given to me and Angel gave that to me. I'm sorry that everybody.

i'm started to say this. There's a way in which we all feel pressure to give away genius stuff that we do to somehow higher power. This is why, if you ask, like, could be numeral made of, like, how do you do such great things?

You'll say Marshall la, or a student, a right? A because islam is very good about you, always give away the compliment because you don't. You can't hold IT that cause you a nego destruction.

This thing here has six degrees of freedom based on the relative speeds of the motors that you put into IT. Plus there's an fine group called S O three semi direct product r three, which has six leal gel elements. That means that this thing can potentially span the leale bra. And if you have a track ball over here as a controller and you put like three ceremonies so that you could control in three dimensional space, you could potentially have a drone that can rotate itself in three dimensions and get anywhere based on these six objects. Now I could be wrong about.

no, you're right.

We've actually done that OK. So my claim is, if the only thing you'd done forget the art, forget the science, forget to this, forget to that, if the only thing you did was to introduce an error, which is one or nine point four seven, is not exactly one o eight.

But one o eight is that key of a, which is i'm not stepping. I'm just come i'm i'm working with you. Do you do that is a really cool.

great a idea until I hear that somebody else did IT or that when you machine this because this is the thing.

this is when you put four of them to get.

Now the thing is, it's very cool if you take what intel does with drones, where they sort of synchronised these swarms, this thing comes together and IT forms a stable structure. Now if you look at IT, the tolerances that you've built into this thing, because these pentagons do not exactly come together.

One nine point four seven.

He's not one way. That thing within with an engineering is like even temperament. Even temperament is a lie. It's a fraud. But oh my god, all the most beautiful music in the world is built.

Uneven temple. Look at what IT generate. That's more about you put now four of these come together and make this four of these come together and they make this larger structure. That is the same exact thing. So that's time .

trying to build the whole world something new. You are I, to the best of my knowledge, by the way, I looked at this years of.

no, no, no, before you got IT. This is the other side of IT. Yes, this is, this is what what is what's very interesting? Like these.

They're come together and me, you can see where they meet up. Yes, their natural meeting up. yeah.

Now this one looks exactly like this one, but they don't have the same mixture. So what this is creating, this is actually showing. This is the equal and opposite. This is, this is matter.

This becomes .

the anti matter PPR enemy. And my own best for IT know .

what that that was a beautiful statement.

but that I would i'm trying to say is the fact that they keep, and these four will keep. This is just the magnetic, what I consider .

the magnetic field.

You think I sider this to be the magnetic field because they're expanding at the center. And magnetism to, in my .

language, magnetism expands out and becomes.

guys did with.

get you to stop pissing my community.

I don't want to pissing my know friends. I need friends terms.

That's what we're here.

But this right here, when you have a, these will keep bonding with greater ones and keep making the same point.

It's good enough within engineering tolerances to be a dodecahedron.

This the decade? Drs.

i'm not gna know if if jami, can we bring up tee four bacteria age caped? Because I think, do you know about what a cap sue is?

No, I know a cap sur is.

It's take a time for last year.

butter and you got bad duck.

Now let's do the one below the cartoon so you see what is calling sheet. Let's do. Yeah.

those are. Those are. There is quick things that run along their moves. So very quickly .

along you about a transport thing, this is a virus. This is rus IT looks like the transport thing. This is his later.

And what this thing is, that thing is that I cost a hedrin capit. So all of the nucleic acid is upstairs in that compartment. But it's not a perfect I cost the hedrin because IT has the allegation of some triangles in the truncation of others.

Now this thing um is an example of imperfection in nature, right? So nature wanted to do something very rigid to protect the nucleic acid by coming up with a nicea hedrin. But he didn't do a perfect one.

Can we find any other that like you see above that one? That's way too perfect. It's not true. That's a good one. So in some sense, what you find often enough is that nature actually chooses imperfect perfection.

And now the way this .

works, can we look up? Cap, so here again, i'm way out of my element. 呃， C A P O, 呃， C A P S O caps. Oh yeah, yeah. And then images.

So the idea that you have these little units, which are very much like your drone units, your linchpins, that come together to form capit. So when you can, you hold up a one that in in cases a do decay hedrin like, right here, right here. yeah.

So that is like a captain made, made from captures. So I want you to spend some time on the protein data bank. Maybe let's go to the protein P, D B capsule, and you'll get an understanding of all the ways in which nature has been doing this engineering that we've been learning from.

Maybe actually just go to the site, P T B. Yeah, let's try that. 呃。 Herpes, basically what these are our little natures version of lynch pins that come together to form patton's solids, which are uh the triangular potent ics. Solids are value because the triangles is stable structure.

If you think about A A square, square can become A A parallelogram very easily. So they're not very engineers use triangle over over square. Um what you need to do, in my opinion, is to figure out the eternal one's understanding of these structures and how here SHE creates these things with the stability that actually use the imperfections just the way you are using the imperfections.

And by the way, I did look at this years ago and totally discarded IT because one of IT IT wasn't equal to one on nine point four seven. It's closed. And the fact that you are willing to deal with something doped with perfection is what actually is the genius. Well, it's.

how do you walk perfect, moving past the point of equal liberum and catching yourself. I to think .

like that, I think perfectly, not imperfectly, and it's to my detriment in many situations.

Well, you've got an incredible .

mind as user cost. Can we go back to the main page? Because the another thing that I see you taking a lot of guff for is the period table.

Now I don't like your periodic table, but you are also the only person I know who's pushing into the public consciousness, the understanding. okay. So first of all, do you know Stanley Jordan?

Not by name, mog standing.

Jordan is one. I don't want to come a guitar rist. His, an alien and intelligence from another universe. But if you .

go up and you .

click that, people been saying that terrans, how was making up the thing about the period table in the sound of the elements? And I want you to hear what he calls sonnier ation, the initiation energies of the elements, as represented here in a period table. And we are going to produce tones representing those energies the way that this artwork is.

Each one of these elements in the table is actually a push button, and I can play tones with these push buttons. The settings in his control panel here will determine how those energies will be converted into tones that we can hear. First of all, we're just going to look at a few with the controls for now.

See, we have transposed frequency. The frequencies corresponding to these initiation energies are extremely high. So we have to transpose them down to range, as you said.

So here, we're going to transpose IT down, in this case forty two octaves negative forty two. So let's start with hydrogen. If I transport SE IT forty three octaves down, I get that home.

Or I can go forty four rockings down, I can also transports IT dramatically. As you can see here, I can go up. Turn up again and up again.

But Normally I set that at zero and just leave IT there and I only change the octo. Let's go back to forty two and i'm going to show you some of the other controls that we have here. The duration is in seconds, so here we go, one second long, or we can go longer.

Let's see, two seconds. And the daming factor controls how quickly the tones decay. Three is kind of like a nice. So what is doing is he's preparing you for the fact that is going to play the period table. And by the way, I just want to say this thing, Stanley Jordan is a frequent magazine.

I see that now.

And what you're talking about, I was talking with him about several years ago. And what he was going to do is to mind the period table for the music of the elements and also go beyond for molecules.

So I tried to do the same thing, and I asked. I called you people treat .

you like your net.

I called U, C, L, A, asking for the prime reason and frequency of the elements. And they won.

Give him to me. Nobody was given them, because, in part, great, this is more carbon, nitrogen, oxygen en florian mia. Now what happens is as you start listening to this.

you start to notice .

we go and go through this second row again. But I won't say and i'll just go I didn't play to them.

Kind of a beautiful mind isn't IT. Now these pitches that we're hearing are determined straight from a calculation based on the actual energy of the element. So we are getting tones that you couldn't necessarily play on the piano.

A lot of them would fall in between the the keys so they don't fit our conventional sense sharp set system. But if you want IT to fit, we can enable. This is as qantas pitch. So all these pitches are slid to the new. So when you say me thirty two, when i've talking .

about the key of will you make .

an error again? So you say this thing about hydrogen forty five. Well.

I wasn't second, but I wasn't saying that hydrogen is forty point five. I was saying that the key of e is forty point five hurt and double to one sixty two those.

But you did in a very authority away in the once in the forty point five is not forty point five hurts is forty point five mega hurts associated is not with hydrogen, but with mercury.

But you have to keep once you keep .

doubling that. But you activated bunch chemists who said, I don't know this frequency .

because they're looking at four forty.

They're looking at the in the is concerned a in time when we've decided that that is today, if you were to use the indian in the hindustani system, let's say, instead of .

the me .

facilities, sorry, a para, para, sorry, sorry, they use I .

did what I did this, I know.

but of this is this is that for north india, right? It's an irrelevancy because everybody, he's allowed to tune their saw to a different tones. They don't have to tune their tar saw around eight, four, forty because there's only three instruments.

There's A A total which doesn't have uh, that tone is an important part. There's a time pooer which is turned to the solos and the solo determines what they saw should be. So we do study goa.

So in that system, the absolute value doesn't matter because you can tune IT to whatever you wanted to. You're not trying to come up with an orchestra. It's only the orchestral aspect of western music and the need for even temperament that forces us all to listen to the concert master is to eight, four, forty years, right?

k. Joseph, gerbils pushed that around the world.

Just keep drink. Um what you have is a situation in which nobody understood what you said about the period table, except for a tiny number of people. Now if we go to that page um jme that we put up, go back back below that, the sound of hydrogen from A W S U.

So this is an academic page dedicated to the idea that you're trying to figure out how to play these things. And this is the science fiction. Now you a attribute more meaning to this, I think, but you need to know that guy named, look at turn, has a body of mine in the U.

K. At bucking in university, which is trying to do some wild, radical stuff. They are working on the idea that smell is not based on shape, but is based on frequency of the violence, electrons, and that particles that vibrate the same way smell the same.

Even if the shapes are different. And if their shapes are very similar, but their vibrations are very different, they don't smell the same. So there's an entire book called the emperor of scent about the academic like all the people who try to push you down, they're trying to push lucar and down as if he doesn't know it's going he he's written the bible of perfume. I don't know if you like.

I know he understands .

the vibratory quality of scent. And so trying to sort of since these things, by saying that everything that has frequency and vibration can be understood in each other other's terms, as a small freak community of very smart people trying to do what IT is doing. Only problem is you gave us, you know, people ask me, friend, and now what do you think of terms? town? I saw all I got like, a week. Can we pull up the the um teris .

hour joe rogan experience?

Yeah, no. We having that right. That genet little come up as Janet left step period table. What you did to the period table was, by the way, what a gift that I hate, the period table can stand. The problem is I had to acknowledge ze when I said, when people asked me what I thought, you just click on that thing, that period table is one of the alternate period tables that much more in favour with people who are mathematically minded like you are, rather than the walter Russell period table.

Because what this does is that uses the quantum mechanics to stop with those exceptions isn't weird that there's like a footnote in the military standard period table in which you just say, well, these things are exceptions to the rule. This is an attempt to use the electron orbitals in terms of the spiral harmonics, where you're looking at complex valued functions on the two dimensional sphere and the sort of alpa w principle. Imagine that there was only a cool on potential senate at the origin in in a hydrostatic ation.

You would go along and say hydrogen first helium and lithium um then barillot um then born and carbon nitrogen seta and this is the way which you would build up the outer shells of the electrons in which the um you have the principal quantum number, which is basically the energy level. But then the l quantum number is what we would call a highest weight for a highest weight representation of S U two or spin three, which is the double s so three that first one is one dimensional um but it's spin up and spin down. So you get two elements.

The next one is going to be three dimensional, but you're gonna get six elements and then you're gonna get five dimensional, because spin A S O three that determines the representation theory. This thing is what I wish you had given us, rather than the walter rusal thing, which is sort of a historical artifact. Now all fence. But the big problem is, is that if you are trying to talk about like hydrogen and .

then you .

imagine carbon is knocked above, I think what you said. Doubling the frequency. What is that thing below hydrogen? And you say, don't know it's it's too dense to be perceived like bull.

but there is ultra low frequencies even though we cannot hear, yes, but there's ultra low frequencies and that's .

what i'm saying. My I broke down.

No, because hydrogen sits in the same exact position as carbon does when you're looking no .

IT is IT IT doesn't .

come off at the same coloration IT doesn't have the same tone turns.

You're talking about a period table from one nine hundred and twenty six something like that. And walter Russell had some decent intuitions ons that he instantiated terribly. And look at all this shit that you're doing and look at the fact that he's locked in one thousand nine hundred and twenty six.

Darroch is not going to come up with the drake equation to succeed. The shorting equation for of the two years quana elector dynamics isn't going to be born. The new train isn't going to be discovered until the early thirties.

And you're taking the wrong fight you're saying when David tongue, here's what I really didn't appreciate about what you did. David tague said, this is all a lie. And you took the wrong meaning from that.

What David ong was saying was different. David guy was saying, we teach hard little ball theory, right? There's an up quark and two downwards in every neutron and two up quarks and went downwards.

And there are all little hard little balls stuck together by robby bans. And then we've got one electron going crazy around IT is like, that's not what's true. And what did he say?

He wasn't a lie in the sense knowledge.

That said, I don't know how to say the word field to a seven year old. They'd, they're not hard little balls.

But that was my problem with David tongue, because here I showed him you don't have a problem. And no, no, the problem that I had was with his response to me, was, here I was showing him, these are the way fees that your particles.

every time you teach, you recur a pendent.

But see, that's the problem. How do you not teach when .

you have some? I tell you how to do IT OK. First thing is you try to figure out whose ethical and who isn't. I'm not i'm not kid around how to .

be jesus Christ to figure out out because most people they have a good faith.

turns. Let me answer your question.

Have i've been fair to you this you have, you've been amazingly fair.

O i've uniform. No, have been uniform. You ve been on IT. Well.

you're talking about that heart.

my heart, heart. No, you've actually talked .

about the things that i've talked about. You've given me criticism among things where i've made mistakes.

You have told me this is not available as a service in academics. Academics, basically, it's a close little world. And if you don't come with protection, we stamp you in the eye. This idea that neil said about why isn't he just submit to p review. I get a bunch shit i've ever heard.

Get two papers. The geometry of .

the proton pull up the neil stuff on that I I prepared on that page because I cannot believe how disingenuous this is. He calls you the worst insulin academics, which is there .

was a studying .

cruger dunning kruger is both an effect that is studied and the ultimate install. It's basically your mama, right? Let's just click on and see what happens. I spent a lot of time on IT, and I thought out of respect for him, what I should do is, given my most informed critical analysis that I can in my field, we call that a peer review. You come up with an idea, you present IT either at a conference or you first write IT up, and you send IT to your colleagues.

IT is their duty to alert you of things about your ideas that are either misguided or wrong, or or does a miss the calculation IT doesn't work out or the logic doesn't comport. That's their job. Not all ideas will turn out to be correct. Most won't be.

But to get to that point, you need to know things like, what has everyone else said about this same time subject? And I repeating someone else's work. Is this a new insight that no one else has had, but has foundations that are authentic or legitimate or objectively true? And I making a false assumption.

Am I making an assumption that someone else is already shown to be false? All of this goes on on the frontier science. Let me make a clear that i'm delighted when I see people with active minds try to tackle the great unknowns in the universe.

It's a beautiful thing that people want to participate on this frontier. What can happen is if you're a fan of a subject, let's say robby is, let's call IT, it's possible to know enough about that subject to think you're right, but not enough about that subject to know that you're wrong. And so there's this sort of valley in there, a valley of false confidence.

This has been studied by others, and it's called the dunning cougar effect. It's the phenomenon where a little bit of knowledge you over assess how much of that subject you actually know. And then when you learn even more, you realize, no, I and know as much as I thought I did.

So then there's sort of a law there. And then when you learn even more, you come back up, ultimately learning enough to know whether you are right or wrong. To become an expert means you spend all this time.

IT doesn't happen overnight. You can just sit in an armchair and say, I know an expert. IT requires years and years of study, especially looking through journals where new ideas are published and contested.

That's what we have learned, is the most effective means of establishing that which is objectively true or determining that which is objectively false. Both of those work hand in hand to move the middle on our understanding of the universe. I'm going to review just my opening line here.

It's titled one times one equals two. okay? So I lead off. So was now we go below.

Um what do we have is that let's try that sir thur editing, an aco physicist, provided the first experimental evidence for einsteins general theory of relativity, which, by the way, what's published in appear review journal crazy idea, the platform to be accepted for the ideas is not social media. IT is not George gan. IT is not my podcast. IT is research journals where attention can be given on a level that at the end of the day, offers no higher respect for your energy and intellect. Then by declaring that what's in IT is either right or wrong or worth your publication or not I wanted to post this to my website so you can see my comments mixed in with his treats but you got the a sense of IT thanks for your listening okay um .

I want .

to be very careful about my words. Is there anything below that that we've put together? This is a .

let's .

go above. This is nell the grass tyson, just you don't feel bad about yourself talking about me and my theory based on a question and ask me anything will you be able to talk about tarek guinta, about the new theory of geometry community? This is from twenty thirteen.

We are all wondering about that. Cosmos is not your Normal talking had. Documentary, in fact, is the feature of the original that enabled the series to live in entire generation from the shelf life of hundreds of other science documentaries that came afterwards.

So the answer isn't no. Let me explain where you are. Neil is not unaware that you are never gonna you hearing at a preview, peer review journey.

Your ideas are gonna come through. You're a soft ut autodidact polymath. You have been cleaned up. You haven't been taught how to speak properly.

You don't know the fact when you say lub, we we know fix point, I know how to do all of this stuff, right? You're not getting a pear review for me. I know a lot more than you do a Better lot of this stuff.

You're getting an elite t review. And my Ellie review says that a lot of this is bath water, but a small amount of this is baby. And that's not available anywhere. It's not available in university. It's not available the journey in a journal that's available on the joe rogan experience and you know neels right um if what you want is pure of you, you should go to a journal and they will laugh you out. They will take one look at your email address and if he doesn't in dot eat you I promise you you're not going to get her.

Do me your favorite? Jammy, can you pull how not?

That s go below .

where we just word jamin. I don't think neil degress tyson actually knows the history of p review. This is google n grams and IT tracks how often a phrase is found in the corpus of english language books published in the world.

Pure of you basically begins in the midnight nineteen sixties. Now there were various forms of editors, uh, in particular, we're very distinguished individuals who were chosen to not pure review things, to simply take a look at things and see who should be published and who should be not. Can we bring that back up? More or less from what I can piece together, gale maxwells father, who started pergama press destroy .

abstinence. correct.

correct. He figured out how to destroy science and make a fortune by blowing out the number of journals, enforcing every university to subscribed. Every journal that he could figure had to publish, because to not subscribe to all of the journals required an admission that you had an incomplete library.

So he diluted the quality of the editorship of the leaving journals. This was a group of very informal, high quality enterprise. Now, most of the destruction of science in terms of how high quality used to be, because taken place relatively recently post Robert maxwell, because we went.

Now we have an enormous number of journals, staff ed, by people who can't spot publication car tels, where we agreed to see each other, other's work, and we agreed to publish stuff you pay for play. All of the nonsense that you see with irr irreducible research comes after this peer review thing. The peer review thing got woven in so that people think that the scientific method and peer review are effectively the same thing, where one is an unwanted infection from the biological biomedical universe, which had peer of you much longer than everything else. Neil is giving you a very cursy back of the hand brush off. And I felt that.

all right.

i'm here .

because I love this man. And this is a higher quality environment. We have to sort IT out what happened with tony fouche in the origin of covet. I was very distressed when joe was sort of gradual, sly, accepting everything that you were saying at a level where he he did say, like I can't evaluate this he was let you have your peace um joe is established an extraordinary thing where he can call on a Roger pen rose. He can call on all sorts of amazing people.

He called you well.

he has left his judgment, but he he has .

a goodall.

My point being that this is actually what science was supposed to be. We are supposed to listen to each other, not go after each other with an ice pick to the eye. We were supposed to try to figure out at the best version member at the beginning of this, what I was trying to say, look, I want to do the .

best version of your idea. Build IT up. So what you're saying though, just some is what you're saying that, neil, the grass is understanding of peer review is and that IT is not really available to someone like .

terms that really isn't. He knows that you see peer review is not one thing. One thing p review is the ability to get rid of the x murder who's just wanted into your office with a manuscript in red crayon.

Well, you guys are talking this. I've got to run to .

the bathroom because this important one is an important point. yes. Okay, so join. I were just talking about, yeah, we're back from the bathroom.

Where is what is peer review actually and why is a controversial? So imagine that you have four types of people, right? You you got two establishment figures.

One of them is screwing up the field who's in a very powerful position and should be removed um from the impediment being the impediment to progress that they are another person is an establishment figure is killed in IT. There are establishment because they are supposed to be the establishment. Establishment is recognized.

How valuable their person. Then you get two other figures. You got IT an x murder, who desperately feels that they've got the secret of the universe.

And anybody doesn't not just stand them is a horrible person. Or you have a heterodox person who actually knows what they're talking about and can overturn the established order, which is where you get a revolution. Peer review, just seize establishment versus non establishment.

IT will lock in a terrible idea for forty years, and IT will stop somebody coming from outside IT will we portion credit? So I suddenly you do a lot of work, and somebody, you know, this is this thing I said about grape and swipe. We notice one flaw in your work, and we take the entire corpus that you've produced away from you.

We published under our own name, I can tell you A A dozen terrible stories, a peer of you where people have confessed to using peer review as a weapon against their colleagues, particularly Younger colleagues, and to simply say, peer of you, IT works, pitches. Holy cow, how how can this be? I thought I was upset with some things that you would send.

No, they're dwarfed. They're dwarfed by this. This is so disingenuous. Basically this is saying, please submit your stuff from a gmail dot com address.

Will take one look and say, IT doesn't look like dad edu to me and will throw whatever you do in the trash hip and we will say, well, you've got the benefit of my peer review. Now you look at what neil said about your stuff. And IT, by the way, he's right about one times, one equal one.

You're wrong about that. That was your opener. You you picked a terrible move. On the other hand, you heard what I said about the lunched pin. IT was a combination of bath water and baby.

I do not have any economic or authority of interest in taking anything you've done putting under my own name. I am simply here to help you. And when we talked about the angle and all of this stuff, I can tell you that that's a great idea.

IT may have been had by somebody else because I don't know, but I assume IT comes from you. IT may not work in practice. I think it's pretty promising. And I think if if you don't do anything else and you create one drown, but just does that really cool thing is a lot have .

been worth IT? No, we've got no, no, no. I know you .

are ready to created this. You're obviously doing cool stuff. What i'm trying to say is we and science have lost the ability to talk to people who do flawed stuff from outside.

All we wanted to get ready. And it's because we have this fake openness. We have a fake scientific method.

Peer review has nothing to do with the scientific method. We ve got along fine without peer review isn't even peer review. It's something called peer injunction, where your peers can stop you without shorting you.

I am happy to bet against you and all sorts of things that you're doing. And if you win and I lose, I am on an unbounded negative experience. But if I block you and I won't short you that saying that I think you're dangerous because it's too dangerous to say to go short.

And the idea that we're handing old people and establish people and very politically savy people, the ability to block you without shorting you is unforgivable. So what i'm trying to do is i'm trying to offer i'm like i'm not pretending to be peer. I know a lot more than you too. I'm giving you an elite review and you're welcome.

And the elite te review doesn't find you as baseless as the peer review that supposedly got handed to you does so that you in part where i'm trying to get at is in my eld that I care about for forty years, we've heard this unbelievable trope that only the string theory people are doing real work and everybody else isn't. And it's a total hogwash, and there's no way we can get out from under these people. In the case of anthy fouche.

And jay butchery is just with jay butchery. I in italy, you have the sky who has A P. H. D. In economics, and he's a doctor and he's a professor, and he becomes a fringe episodes gist overnight, because some bureaucrat was probably in control of the bioweapons, you know, because we sign these two treaties during the nineteen and seventies, the geneva convention and the bioweapons convention. Uh, he and the in Francis Collins suddenly convert a respected colleague into a fringe.

And like, no, we're going have a mutiny and the mutine is gonna be based here because this is a place that you'd invite tony fauci in. Jb, charier for sure. Yeah, we can do any that .

I bring out.

Yeah, we could have .

meet your coco crosses on the wall. Let's have meet you ocock o and banging. Let's have a discussion about stranger. Let's fundamentally discuss neoclassical economics.

Shall we discuss whether or not random table is the true engine of neo Darwin ism? Is that reasonable? Or do some of these crazy people who say, um I don't know what IT is, but randa mutation isn't powerful enough to build proteins because stabilities is too difficult.

The the sad fact show is, is that you build something that has some credibility and even though you think of IT is I just like having conversations with people and a lot of them are fighters and i'm just to me, ball, we don't have any other place we can go to the national academy of sciences to politicize. We can't go to harvard. You, so what just happened with cloudy gave still a professor.

We've lost everything in podcast as dieppe and shitty and as variable inequalities as they are. Jerry very much included. This is all the left.

And my claim is, is that out chAllenge, neil? I actually think that this is a Better place to do review because i'm on the hook. And by the way, some of the shift that i've said is probably wrong.

The thing that pieces everybody off is the fact that I have the models behind what i'm talking about when I talk about when we described the electric field or the classroom field, i've got models that define every aspect of that motion, and i'm waiting for you to .

be reviewed.

I, I, I would love that. I would love that.

I think so.

I would love that. I I I would love that.

but I also try .

to help make Better but it's having the proof and then mind you, like jam, if you pull up the um but tears.

you know what is saying about like not being an expert in teaching and then coming from the outside and that is it's in that yeah it's insulting. It's a bad way to approach a concept because the people that have been studying these concepts for so long instantly ously are told that they don't know but you know and that's offensive to people that are actual experts in a thing. I think the same ideas could be portrayed in a way that does not do that.

is to learn that no, that is just .

you're so much smarter than most of the people you're talking to. Well, the problem.

and this is one of the failures of of joe's bullshit IT detector. In other words, you believe what you're saying and you're obviously very, very smart and you obviously have a huge amount of things that you've been introduced to like how many other people bring up herman grassland yeah and geometric bring clifton. I think i'm probably the only the other one in the history of this program to do that.

And I saw you've mention clif d ogi brows like, okay.

it's a community right now on here for sure knows Cliff was not not sure whether. The grass tyson does, brian Green certainly does. But in general, this stuff doesn't get introduced in places like this. And then and you watch this in yourself, i'll try to put a circuit in your mind so you'll know exactly the point where you start pissing my community of, can we bring up the cruel total edge of primate?

What's that?

I love chick flicks, and I think the ultimate chick .

flick that sounds like .

my x see you there legally blind. I've seeing you right now when .

your socks on and see, let's go, let's go earlier than this.

Is that from kill? bill? Yeah, I can show this. That's why.

Well, the bride goes up to the top of these stairs and prime asks her, what do you know? And he says something like, I am acai ted with, such as so so, and I am more than proficient in the fine art of japanese, whatever. And pie may completely kicks her ass because SHE doesn't understand where SHE is. And my claim is, is that you need your has kicked and you need to a prentice to some of us who know more than you and believe me, let me just tell you this, i've had my ass kicked and I will get my ass kicked more because you need some kind of humility. You come in across wrong by the, we never pick a fight with Jamie fox, holy shit, is that I .

everything I learned, I learned that the hard way.

Tell me if you're out there, I totally love you and what you didn't ray is just unbelievable. He doesn't every move. He's just, he's so dam good.

Yeah, he is insane.

Down the talented person.

he is one of the most intelligent people have met. I was sitting on the set of of ally with, and i'm playing chess with him and i'm playing a serious game of chess. He's having a conversation with two other people while he's playing chess with me as if it's nothing, as if it's nothing.

yeah. And I played as well. So for I was, I ve never been more impressed with somebody who can compartment alive. And he's an organization genius.

Whatever he is, he is. But you know what? I had my guy, my guy was named nme l keys. I don't know if.

No melky.

you never heard. No melky, no markets. I inhered harvard at nineteen with a masters degree.

Noone was eighteen. He didn't have a master to device. So we sort in a weird neck, neck. And everything I thought I was good at, noone was Better. No, I play a little piano.

No one could compose anything, miss guys just like super genius beyond genius, right? And he he wasn't a bad guy at all but he was so powerful in his mind that um like he composed I think and eleven by eleven crossword with no black squares and after that just can't be done um and I thought jez is just no point in competing with no milky and one Christmas party the professor in roll bot heard by plane trying to play booey woody piano and no one set down and like roll said why did to play some bugging woogie and no one started playing what he thought was buggy woogie was like rock mine enough and role would say no, no, no and no would go into show pen and then he go into list he was playing ever more brilliant things and finally his brain is blue because he couldn't think through buggy buggy but none. Then became the Youngest professor in the history of harvard university.

I realized that I had accidentally entered in a year in which unknown l key was present. And by having my ass kicked repeatedly by this guy, I had asked myself the question, what am I doing on this planet? What do I have to contribute? And all the things like I see a Jamie fox doing, he's not trying to do anything like this, right? There is a creative Spark in the spirit in you that I really see and appreciate.

IT comes from an older air, and we don't have people like you in the academy anywhere. We used we used to have lots of these polymath who would connect fields. And right now, what we've got as a specialization epidemic, and as far as I can tell, which you need to some discipline, and you need discipline from coming in the contact with people who know a lot more than you, who can educate you as to what we already understand, how to communicate these .

things and not just shut them down.

But we're not in the epidemic. We have is assassin. We have an assassin epidemic because the middle z in the system, all they do is see things in terms of like done in crooker, done in crook, you're done in create. The funny part about IT is, is that that's the mid ddd end point, is that they see, hear dox thinkers and they can't figure out how to place them and so they just say, if I can find one error, I can reject everything and you keep trigger ing that .

and that's one times one. But that's why I keep saying the one times one is more of .

a phor to us. IT is life and death. You try to sneak one times one through airport security. It's like it's just a clock. Ninety ah I understand that.

but I was really a grant to get to gain the attention. Never do IT to gain the attention.

And you didn't know well .

OK this one more that's going to keep us from ever getting you through this thing. Can we pull up the my page again? We don't .

rap IT up with .

yeah I I want to do this.

be a little people didn't even .

didn't next .

times where so far down the road.

this is four a hf .

hours OK. I want you to take a look at the chemical engineering peace because if we don't do that, I can actually .

help you. That right there. Let me an part. Me, let me explain that. Yes, here I took over to what was the name of the university, south south care line university I was working with, with a pollo diamond.

We were growing diamonds, and I developed away, in which to grow diamonds larger than the two carrot diamonds. I went over the south CarOlina in university and I talk to them about introducing the diamond process, you know, into their university. Um they were going to give me an honour degree.

Okay, now i'm thinking they're giving me an honorary degree in chemical engineering because of what i'm doing. And it's just an you ona ary degree in humanity that they gave me. And so I went on the show and I was like, you, I will I get I get IT on a very degree from the but that ended up coming across as if I get an on rare degree in chemical engineering, which I don't have an on rare degree chemical.

an honorary degree is .

workless.

It's like, would you tech if if your child needed brain, as you would, you go to dock to dry? No, okay, I want you to hold this, uh, is a guy who had was nineteen with a masters degree, harvard university, and I got into A A fight and took me seven years to get that away from me, from them. And they would have been happy to bury me without IT. Okay, that is blood, sweat and tears. And the work that I actually started doing ended up in somebody else's name, because harper university .

part credited with them.

with them when when you score around with a PHD like this cloudy, gay, this, this, this woman needs to be fired OK. Harvard university needs to go back to the business of kicking ass and taking names in being the place that is the shining sitting on the hill. Enough with the anti semitism, enough with the woke, enough with the D.

E. I don't ever let me catch you talking about gym chrome mathematics. You're getting an absolutely treated seriously for the serious stuff that you've done.

You're getting treated properly for the wrong stuff. That thing about the P, H, D, basically fraud. What i'm saying to you is I don't give a shit.

Merit is merit. If I can catch you in a fraud, if I can catch you in a liar and catch you in an error, I don't care. My question is, what did you do?

What was the cool stuff you did do? I'm not in asset. I don't care if you in part exaggerated your achievements.

I know how what would IT feels like to be shed on. I know that you have no ability to fight what's being said to you from on high. okay? What i'm saying is the only thing that matters is what you contribute in the end.

And imagine that there was fraud, imagine that there were lies, imagine that there were errors, and imagine that the linchpin turns out to be the next level drone that defines everything. Because, accidentally, there are six degrees of freedom in the six dimensions in the semiotic CT product of vesa, three with our three. Whatever IT doesn't matter.

It's that cool. Greg mental probably faked his pyo T. T. experiments. And there is a good named David e.

Caplin, a john's hopkins university, who said to me something and so beautiful I can't reproduce, that he said, physics is based on everything. It's the back stabbing, it's the frauds, it's the genius. It's the, it's the craft's man in the workman who get the job done. The experimental toil and papers with thousand people, and this this community of all of these people have come together to produce something, which is something close to the source code of the universe.

And if you're interested in that pursuit, and you want to get rid of some of the baby fat and some of the bullshit i'm happy to help, is a lot of work to do IT IT happens that I had done a lot of the work over my life, so I didn't have to put an infinite amount of energy in this. But what happened is, is that you created a mass delusion. And IT was a mass delusion, in part because we we're not aware of what mass illusions actually are.

They start with a nub of truth. They start with creative Sparks of genius. So we're on the look out for people who are just fraught, who have nothing that they actually can contribute.

And what we don't realize is that you have these things about k fab, which are these melodious reality and fakery, right? And they're there are interwoven. What you've produced is something that is party bullshit and real contribution. And we don't have a system to pull IT apart. We don't have any experience for how to sense .

when that they consider the bus shit to be the one times one equal two. And the ninety seven patterns, the supersymmetry, the ninety .

seven patterns is not the supersymmetry. It's simply the residue, the reduction when we get rid of all the stuff that wasn't supposed to be here because you're a self taught polymath, you're obviously incredibly intelligent. You're obviously not taught by the system, and you can do that work all on your own. no. So you've got to come in and you ve got to find somebody who is not looking to kill you.

And that's been the entire dance. What i've tried to do is introducing a new set of tools to the scientific and mathematical community so that they can advance, pass the patois IT the planet olets. I still see in a two or three dimensional position. And since we are living in hyper space and hyperbolic reality, then we need to have tools that define that hyperbolic space. So we don't have to go through Lance transformations and all of these unnecessary steps in order to get to defining curve space.

I think that the real story terenty is going to be whether you can stop teaching long enough to accept some help.

I'm here to accept the help.

and i'm here to learn from you because i'll tell you something the linchpin is is a good example of something which I didn't know into the extent that I didn't know what I threw IT away. And I think it's a great idea.

And I think that the art, and I think that some of the higher dimensional stuff, and I think that a lot of this stuff has a kind of beauty, that if, if, if john horton conway were still alive and had been killed back cover, I know, I D know where to send you. There's a guy, you know, there are sphere packing people. There are common tourists.

There are all sorts of people who play with stuff in this realm. But the one thing that you've got to a stop doing is, is that when you get on a program that has millions of people, you can create one more mass delusion. I've got a fouche mass delusion.

I've got a string theory mass delusion. I've got a bite in this fine mass delusion. I've got a trump is not a problem, mass delusion.

All I have morning, noon and night is mass delusion on mass delusion. But people don't understand that the reason that these mass solutions get started is that there's a nub of truth in them. Q on is not can't be total bullshit because it's got some core in IT that's right.

And some craziness if you think about dianetics and scientology is the first thing that they teach you about is the reactive mine. That's not a terrible theory. And then before you know, what is zu in volcano, right? So what's going on is, is that people are not a way of how cafe works, right?

Wrestling is is one of the most dangerous, demanding sports of a certain kind. Now, what happens to be theatrical and preprogram? But if you've ever doubt with anybody like the restroom, community suffers a death rate unlike any other sport in the world.

What you have to understand this is that cafe, and I D highly recommended to look at my essay from two thousand eleven, is about what happens when fantasy and reality in term ingle. And that's what you did on the last time that you were here. And I can talk to about the fancy.

I can talk to about the fraud in the lies. But i'm also going to talk you about the contributions, the genius in the inside. And what I want the world to learn is you're getting sucked in to mass delusions that you're not properly imagining.

There is almost always a core of truth and reality that mainstream won't acknowledge, and then there's almost always a bullshit payload that gets leven ed in because in some sense, the mainstream is our official cut and then all of the rest of us produce these other calls. In my situation, i've gone forty years and I haven't had a really deep conversation about gu geometric unity with my own community. Where you are is that you're in a world in which the number of people who are both component and honest and ethical enough to have the conversation with you has dwindling to fewer than ten.

It's been a pleasure and an honor to appear with you. Thanks for being a decent guy. I know that not all of .

this has been welcomed. This has also been welcomed. Any truth? And like I said, I take you up on on the examining and expLoring these into the areas because like I said, these are tools. I just want to offer a new set of tools to the community so that they can now advance, pass the points where we are.

Why not offering? Because the first thing you need to do, the first thing you need to do is not as to be a students, not a higher versus lower, but just recognized you're bringing gifts and your bringing problems and it's very expensive to help you. But IT doesn't mean it's impossible in one of the great things about this program is that if there is anybody out there, they can hear IT.

Now be honest with you. I've been on this program maybe six times before. I am often astounded that I can reach all of planet earth, and there is a single soul who can hear me.

I think that one of the things you're going after reckon with is you're saying certain things and you may get hundreds and hundreds of thousands of responses, and there won't be a single meaningful response among them. And I don't know what to do about that, but stay off twitter. I yeah I I did .

my best .

to give you whatever .

a response. And all I really want is if you saw some benefit in the things that i've displayed and let's have a conversation, i've i've get IT as we got.

We're all connected now. Thank you very much, gentlemen. Was a lot of fun. Very interesting, very informative. Thank you. jammy.

Thank you jammy. Very.

very much. right? Thank you.