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Vivek Ramaswamy & RFK Jr: Brazil Banning X, the New Russian Hoax, and the Kamala Harris Scam

2024/9/6
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通过深入调查和批评,卡尔森对美国和全球政治话题产生了显著影响。
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Tucker Carlson: 加州的衰落是人为造成的,其问题并非复杂难解,而是由于领导者缺乏对人民的爱以及对公平原则的漠视。他认为,解决加州问题以及美国的问题,关键在于领导者对人民的爱,以及政府提供秩序、安全和公平等基本需求。他批评了当前的政治体制,认为它是由缺乏创造力的人掌控的,他们为了自身的利益而牺牲了勤劳守法的公民的利益。他呼吁人们关注供应链中断的风险,并建议储备必需药品。 Vivek Ramaswamy: 他列举了他认为的十个真理,涵盖了信仰、性别、能源、种族、边境、教育、家庭、资本主义和美国政府结构等方面。他认为,对上帝的信仰是最终的真理,并认为当前社会对各种主义的追捧是人们对意义和目标的渴望的替代品。他通过竞选活动,发现美国人民在国家价值观上比媒体宣传的更加团结。他批评了司法部对特朗普支持者的指控,认为这可能是类似于“通俄门”的事件。他认为共和党需要摆脱对拜登的过度关注,专注于自身的愿景,并对抗整个政治体制,而不是仅仅针对个别候选人。他强调了在政治斗争中权衡风险的必要性,以及在面对压力时坚持自身信念的重要性。他讨论了在政治生涯中所面临的个人代价,包括对家庭和友谊的影响。 Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: 他讲述了他早期在环境保护方面的经验,强调了公众拥有自然资源的权利。他批评政府对言论自由的压制,认为这会导致各种侵犯人权的行为。他详细阐述了拜登政府对言论自由的压制,并介绍了他针对政府的禁令。他认为西方民主国家正在走向极权主义,并强调了言论自由受到威胁的严重性。他讨论了在政治生涯中所面临的个人代价,包括对家庭和友谊的影响。 Tucker Carlson: He believes that California's decline is intentional, its problems are not complex but stem from a lack of love for the people and disregard for fairness in leadership. He argues that the solution lies in leaders who love their people and governments that provide order, safety, and fairness. He criticizes the current system as being controlled by uncreative people who sacrifice hardworking citizens for their own gain. He urges people to be aware of supply chain disruptions and suggests stockpiling essential medicines. Vivek Ramaswamy: He lists ten truths covering faith, gender, energy, race, borders, education, family, capitalism, and US government structure. He believes faith in God is the ultimate truth and that current societal trends are substitutes for a yearning for purpose and meaning. Through his campaign, he found Americans more united on national values than the media portrays. He criticizes the Department of Justice's accusations against Trump supporters, suggesting it might be a pattern similar to the “Russia collusion hoax.” He argues the Republican party needs to shift focus from Biden and present its own vision, emphasizing confronting the entire political system rather than individual candidates. He stresses the need to weigh risks in political battles and the importance of standing by one's beliefs under pressure. He discusses the personal costs of his political career, including the impact on family and friendships. Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: He recounts his early experiences in environmental protection, emphasizing the public's right to natural resources. He criticizes government suppression of free speech, arguing that it leads to various human rights abuses. He details the Biden administration's suppression of free speech, including his own experience and the court injunction he obtained. He argues that Western democracies are moving towards totalitarianism and emphasizes the severity of the threat to free speech. He discusses the personal costs of his political career, including the impact on family and friendships.

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Tucker Carlson lamenta el declive de California, reflexionando sobre su infancia y contrastando el pasado prístino del estado con sus problemas actuales. Critica a los líderes por priorizar la riqueza y el poder sobre el bienestar de los ciudadanos, enfatizando la necesidad de líderes que amen genuinamente a su pueblo y defiendan el orden, la seguridad y la equidad.
  • California alguna vez fue un estado limpio, ordenado y justo que ofrecía oportunidades para todos.
  • Los problemas actuales de California son el resultado de decisiones políticas intencionales.
  • Se necesitan líderes que amen a su pueblo y prioricen el orden, la seguridad y la equidad.

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Thank you very much. I feel like.

IT is. Thank you.

Thank you.

IT is a true joy to be here. I must say.

as a native .

californian, it's hard to believe i'm here. Thank you. No, it's funny. I am. I am thrilled to be in the state of california, which I often make fun of and scored like an arent child. But I love, i'm the product of IT many generations of californians.

And and I wound up running away, moving to the as far from here as I possibly could. But every time I come back, literally, I moved directly across the country, next top canada. But every time I come back, I know, I know every time I come back, I think I can believe I left here.

It's just so great. And you get such as a different sense of being here in meeting people who actually still live here, haven't run away like terrified children like me. You really get the sense that there are so many great and Normal people still in california.

And the people who stayed .

that the actual california people who are born california, I mean.

there's an intensity to them. I mean.

IT really is like I was thinking tonight, I was with about one hundred of um so my relatives are here and IT really is like talking to by cuban refugees like they .

know what the stakes are.

They're not floating .

through life.

I am going to bless you. No, when I was a child growing up in the way we had, I lived in cem S. O.

I know L. A. And and we would have entire afternoon conversations about the weather. And I never realized I thought was a little weird, didn't realized how totally drained ed IT was because our weather never changed at all.

IT went from like seventy six and partly cloudy to seventy seven and Sunny, and then returned to the former. That was that we talked that's all we talked about. And now when I come to this day, particularly to orange county, people are just in frego like they know what's up.

And the people who stayed here, a lot of them planned to stay here, period, and to make the state Better. And what I realized and backless you for your courage and determination and not being run out and calling you hall and going to ido, it's close in tempting. But when I always think when I come back, I think two things in sequence in order.

The first thing I think is manister they screw up. And then the second thing I think is you could fix IT in about twenty minutes. It's not hard.

This is not the social security problem or the national debt. These are not complex math problems. California has problems that are intentionally imposed on the state.

People worked hard. They stayed up late, thinking of new and diabolical and inventive ways to rack the most beautiful place god ever made. And that's like the sickest thing I can image.

Why would you want to destroy something as beautiful as california? I don't know. I don't know the answer. I don't think it's political. I think it's spiritual, but I do know that the anodos is really simple.

So the california a that I grew up in, and when I was little, not far from here, I was in anaheim, five. And like every five year old in the state, california, in one thousand nine hundred and seventy four, I could not wait to get to disneyland. And anaya was very much like disneyland.

And I was like the rest of the state that I grew up in. IT was clean. IT was orderly, and IT was fair.

IT was the fair estate out of fifty. IT was a pure mario racy. California was, you came to california because you had ambition or revision.

And in california, you were allowed to make IT real. If you worked hard, you were smart, you get rich. In california, A A lot of people did from all over the country. Yeah, they did.

And what is that? That's fairness. It's allowing people to reach their full expression as human beings.

That's fairness is not penalizing people for who their parents were, how they look. It's allowing people to truly blossom in california with the world headquarters of that. And IT had the greatest natural resources of any place, literally, on the planet.

IT had the richest farmland and had the most beautiful beaches that the pretty mountains had. Most majestic trees was red. Looks like we did nobody.

We mock your trees. We did when we feel sorry for you. Look at my White pine, my oak OK. Does the word to koa mean .

anything to you?

IT was just incredible. The bounty of IT was insane. Go to big bear up in the series. We would constantly have this debate because I lived in both northern and southern california a which is Better. And then I just said they're both great.

And anyone who doesn't live here, here is to be pitted in this time where we are now. And I think it's still the biggest municipality in orange county, I think and we was anyway, and I and ham was a reflection of the state and of the bigger business in the town, which was disney. And disney and the purity of disneyland when I was a child is like incomprehension to Young people now.

But IT was a reflection of what california was like. IT was totally clean, not an acceptable ally. Clean, not hospital room clean, but just clean in the way that a places when it's owned by someone who cares about IT and IT was ordered, not in some kind of overbearing fascist way, but in the way that every human desires there was in order to to IT.

And IT was wholesome, whose little git hole some i'm not that old, but I remember in my like seventh grade class somebody whispering about his cousin who had gotten high in the parking lot at disneyland and done space mountain. And we're like, wow, wow, you are high at disneyland. dude.

Be careful. They don't allow that at disneyland. Okay, it's disneyland.

dude. Remember thinking that was totally shocking. I'm just like a final to spend there now, whatever. But but at the time that was like impossible to comprehend.

I remember being freaked out by I at disneyland theyll know, because everyone at disneyland is like a really understanding, good person. IT wasn't, as the theme park was a metaphor for california, like a really good statement of good people. The copsley corrupt.

The lapd was like, I know it's hard to believe now, ever IT makes one of IT, but at the time was the lep d they were all like people who couldn't make IT in hollywood. They all of the gain, like washed out of the beach boys or something kind of handsome with little musters. So you were speeding.

okay? There's no chance you have to pay the guy off. It's l pd, the whole state was like that. And IT was the reflection of the people who an the state disney was found on by what disney, who was in amErica and was a creative genius. The guy who created the art, owned the company.

The most creative person got the richest, and that was before an economy that rewarded lawyers and accountants and di consultants and politicians and bureaucrats, people who lack any creativity whatsoever, who in a fair country would be painting your house at best. And in fact, let me retract. That is someone who spent a summer as a house painter and learned that cutting and rolling is actually pretty hard.

There is no chance that Gavin newsom could paint your house. There's no chance. He can. I can just picture him like covered in masking tape in the late tax.

I think like what.

but does this work? Yeah, he can consume overPriced one at the french laundry that his only skill, and he can extorted money from you with moral blackmail. And such as california course, it's not just the united states, is the entire west, but we have a system designed by people who in a fair country would have no shot at power or wealth.

And so what they have done systematically is create a system to give themselves power and wealth at the expense of people who actually deserve IT, which is to say, hard working, smart, creative people. And disney is the perfect metaphor for this. So a company was created by a true artistic genius, like actually genius, who drew the cells himself, who thought of things in his own brain and brought him to the world and changed the perception of amErica around the world.

The disney companies did, and he ran in the company he owned. And then gradually, like the state itself, this thing was taken over by lawyers and accountants and other bottom money workers, disgusting human beings who hated america. And the town around disney is still a cool town, but it's not recognizable.

The place that was lives in and a lot of the states in. And so how do you fix that? I must say, as someone who spent his life on TV mapping about I, to send their ideas and cable news ideas with quotation Marks around them, small eye ideas, more reflex is an ideas, but.

whatever. I don't really think this is an ideological problem there was. I don't think you have to be steeped in austrian economics to fix a place like california or a country like america. You need really one thing, and that's love for the people who live here. It's true.

And as the father of four or any parent .

in the room can tell you, what's the key apparent hood reading the right book about IT, mastering the right parenting technique. I've never met a single parent in my life who reads a ton of parenting books, who is a good parent.

not one that are weird.

And their kids are weird. They will theories stop.

No.

you love your kids that thicky apparently. And if you love your kids, you're probably not going to be a perfect. And I certainly wasn't.

But if you love them hard enough, you'll come back to the center every time. You will make overtime the right decisions about how to raise your kids. If you put your love for them at the center of the project, I love my child.

What should I do? But it's not just parenting that requires that it's all forms of leadership, from leadership in the battle field, the option for his men, in the corporate environment, the CEO for his employees and in the political sphere, the leader for his people, a leader who loves the people he leads, will not systematically mistreat them. He will instead overtime, make basically the right decisions, or decisions that are in the vines of the right decisions, which is good enough for me.

He'll make mistakes because we all do, but he won't destroy them. They won't wind up in rehab or wind up living on the street dying event l od, or crapping on the sidewalk. He won't open the borders to people who weren't even from here, who break the law laguerre and then send the millions of dollars from the people who work hard legally to get them free phones and playing tickets and housing vouch and free health care. What no, any more than he would let random strangers into his own house to take food from his own children, because he loves his own children first. That's why.

And so the problem that you have, and it's once again for the eighth time, particularly pointing for me as a product of the state, is someone who really loved IT, totally overbearing, arrogant way. Someone who actually may or may not have a bumper sticker says, is no life, eto, I five possible I had that it's so insufferable someone who to beat me up for that I was someone had. But anyway, the point is that really love the state.

And to see what's happened, you just you fix IT on IT in those of you who still live here haven't called uhl yet. I know that you fix IT on IT. And so the answer is only to find leaders who care about you, who love you, and who will provide the basic desires of the human heart.

And in case you forgotten what those are, here's what they are order. People hate chaos. They don't just hate chaos.

And actually, they hate IT visually. And they have every reason, in fact, they can't tolerate chaos. And they have every reason to hate IT and be intolerant ant of IT.

Because what is chaos? Chaos is the most visible sign, not of disorganising and disorder of evil cases. Evil, evil brings chaos. What's the first thing god did? He brought order out of what chaos.

So if you are looking at chaos, a chaotic situation anywhere, you are looking at a manifestation of evil, whether the person creating the chaos knows that or not, that's relevant. Evil is happening in front of you, and IT hurts people more than anything. Kay, people need order and predictability, not fascism.

okay? Order and predictability, it's not wrong to want that is essential to demand IT. okay.

The second thing they want is safety and cleaning. Ss, they don't want to get shot, go into the girls y store. They don't want a home invasion when their car gets broke into. They want the police to find the person who did IT and punish him. And they want all these things because those are the main functions of government for the reason we have a government. If your government can't even respond to a carrick or an armed robbery or a home invasion, or a belligerent mentally ill person crapped on the sidewalk in front of your house, that government has no legitimacy and shouldn't exist. That's the first hour of government to protect you from obvious threats, not from nickel tin pouches or .

climate change. Come on now .

from the million old guy crapped on the sidewalk. That's the number one thread in your life. That's what scares your children in any government. All three say that who can't protect you or doesn't care to protect you from that threat is not legitimate and has no right to exist. bean.

And the third thing to restate that every government owes its citizens who are the owners of that government, are the owners of the government. The government has no legitimacy in a constitutional republic. Apart from the support of voters, period IT has no legitimacy.

The only legitimate legitimacy that possesses is your consent. I'm for this. Therefore, it's okay. One of things that means says if you pass a ballot measure demanding something, they have to give IT to you, period. If they don't give IT to you, if they get some judge to take you away from you, that's called tyranny. Just so you know, sorry, i've seen that happened in the state of california quite a bit.

And as a kid when Howard jarvis, when prop thirteen am came through and seventy, yet whenever you think of IT go go out javis, there was no thought in the state of california, thousand, nine hundred and seventy eight. I was nine years old. I remember this very well that some judge could be like, oh, the majority of californians wanted something, but I don't want IT.

Therefore they can have IT. I mean, that would not have been allowed in the state because that's crazy. The only thing that matters in this or any other status is what the people who live there are.

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Fairness, even small children understand when something's unfair. You gave my sister two cookies and he only gave me one. You laugh.

That will affect you for the rest of your life. That will affect the relationship between siblings more than anything else. Mom favors him. I don't like him. You want to wreck the relationship between your children.

Just the worst thing you can do to children favor one over the other because it's unfair and kids have been a cute sense of fairness that never goes away because it's encoded in who they are. Its in their genes they were born with that. We know when someone is unfair and the most unfair thing you can do is punni shed people who are trying their hardest.

And following the rules now include every single person in this room for the state, california, who was held in contempt and losing by the people who run your state. And maybe it's occurred if you to live here. Wait a second.

I'm not conducting any home invasions. I didn't snaking hear illegally from a foreign country. I pay my frequent taxes.

Why on what crowds do you hate me? I should be getting the the california metal of honor. David new son should be kissing my feet in the governor s. Office in sc. romana. Thank you, beautiful, ethical california, for making this place Better, for not throwing the garbage out of the window of your car, for getting car insurance, for not driving drunk, for not joining a street game, for penner taxes, for funding this whole growth trade we call the government. Thank you.

But when the governor, the state of california, all the little creepy, nameless minions beneath him, all the little noted puppets of the labor unions who actually run california, tell me if i'm lying. All of those people have total contempt for the productive, creative, beautiful, law biting citizens of the state. And so they're moving to ida home, or texas or florida to improve those states.

And in so doing, their leaving the graves of their ancestors in the greatest state at a fifty california. They are abandoning the dreams that brought their ancestors to the state. And that dream was based on fairness, the promise that if you do the right thing, you will be rewarded, you will not be punished.

They're leaving all of that behind because a small group of freak wants to punish them. no. Sorry, anyway, i'll stop with that.

We have a lot more. But let me just say, I just want to say, I admire you, those who have stayed. I admire your principle.

I admire your great, your toughness, your perseverance, your resolve. I like IT here. I grew up here and i'm not leaving.

I don't care what kind of freak occupies the governor s mansion. That is such a cool attitude. That's a pioneer attitude.

That's the attitude that drove your ancestors here in the first place. I'm kind of seek a clive and ohio and moving to L A. That's why they came here.

That's a cool attitude and that's the attitude that's keeping you here. And I just want to tell you from very far away that I admire IT. So I want to introduce we have a surprise guest, by the way.

But first I want to introduce some beginning of conversation with someone I really admire for vacuum swarm。 Who ran for president in the republican primary and and dropped out indoors trumping has been stumping for trump s as close to trump. But i've known him since long before he got into politics because he wrote a couple of amazing books and I talked to interviews him about the books and actually read the books.

Not every cable news host reads the books and just tell me that, or any books ever or actually can read, to be totally honest, but whatever. And I don't read all the books, but I didn't read his books. And they were wonderful.

And they were wonderful because he actually thought through what he believed. And he put in all was totally, transparently like, I used to think this. Now I think this.

Here's why. And I respect people like that. And I, so I kind of watched him, flowers is this political figure, and I heard people say he's just too articulate.

This can be real. And there is a kind of bias against people who almost like supernaturally fluent in a language. It's like your so silver tongue as the phrase they use.

That can't be real. You've gotto be selling me something if you're that fluent. I mean, I think everyone kind of feels that way.

And I just want to say for the record, which is why I asked him, beg him to come tonight. He's real. He's totally since here.

Maybe they don't want to think that someone that smart and that well spoken is actually in other side. This always just happened to me, like liberals I knew would be, especially in the state of relatives. Might in california be like, you don't really mean that go on. Like I actually .

really do what he really means .

that and so i'm honor to have a ladies and gentleman vae from the swimmy.

Wow, love you guys. This pretty cool.

This is the real california here. I like this. Oh yeah, there's the good kind. You have you guys?

IT is the coolest state and breaks my heart. So hear.

this is a good idea.

So we are talking um we are talking back stage. I just said that I read your books.

Oh, thank you.

And I said that I spent so many years in TV selling other people's books and I never selling anyone ebook again. And I wouldn't even bring up your book except I love IT and it's called truths .

as the new one that's coming out. Okay.

so this is why i'm bringing this APP right now. So I said, he said, I would even know and i'm running a book. It's almost done or it's done.

What's a called truth? truth? Oh, what are the truth? And I said, what are the truth? I know the top of his head. He listed them. And I just thought, it's so great you've got to here.

What are the truth of? Yeah, god is real. There are two genders.

Fossil fuels are a requirement for a human prosperity. Reverse racism is racism. An open border is not a border.

Parents determine the education of their children. The nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to mankind. Capitalism lift us up from poverty.

There are three branches of government in the united states, not for. And the U. S. Constitution is the strongest and greatest guarantor of freedom in human history. So there is the ten and now you don't have to buy the book.

So so you start with god is real. yeah. why?

So I think that's the ultimate truth. And I say this in particular. I put that first for a reason because a lot of people in thinking about, I went for U. S. President IT was new to think about somebody who is not of the Christian faith, who was running for us president, but is a person of deep faith.

And I think the beauty of the country is IT was founded by people who believed that god put them here for a purpose, right? This country was founded against the backdrop of divine providence. And so any part of what's going on in the country is that, especially Young people, people my age, and a little of Young people here, too.

Our generation is so hungry for purpose right now. We are hungry for a cause. We are hungry for meaning.

We want to be part of something bigger than ourselves. Yet we can't even answer what IT means to be an american. But I think part of that, a hole in our heart, it's what blaze pascal said.

He is a famous scientist four hundred years ago. He says that if you have a whole the size of god in your heart, and god does not fill IT, something else will. Instead, you think about voguish or transgender oris m or climatized or covers m or global ism or zelenski m or or whatever the case may be.

That's a bad one.

But you see these things seriously ing up over and over again, their substitutes for the real thing. And I am a big fan of the revival of faith in america, not by force. The beauty of this country is you don't have to if if IT is a natural to you, but the revival of faith in the real thing in true god. And I think if we revive, faith in this country will actually be much more united as a country as well.

It's interesting.

So you just spent one of that, everyone makes fun of politics and considers politicians low some, which they are.

which I can confirm that a but the .

one cool thing I like about campaigns and is IT does force people who want to hold power to go meet a lot of people and to get on the road and get to a lot of different places in this fast country. And you've just done that. So you said there is a revival of faith. Did you feel that on the road?

absolutely. I mean, there is a hunger for even people who are questioning what they are, actual belief or and sometimes when you do that, you actually emerge stronger on the other side of IT. So I met a lot of people across the country.

They're traveling in iowa, meet a lot of evAngelical Christians, have a fair question ask question of can a hindu be president? That forced me to confront what a lot of my own beliefs were in a way that I wouldn't have if you weren't really pressed on IT day to day. And I think one of the traps you can fall into, and at times I would catch myself falling into as well as you treat conversations as pattern recognition, right? So it's like, okay, that's where I turn on the autos script.

That sounds like the best answer to this question, and I decided to have to do to the painting on, i'm not going to do that. I'm going to treat every conversation as a unique conversation, probably tarted to tens of thousands of people across this country. And, you know, I hope I contributed something, but I can tell you I definitely emerged as a stronger human being and a stronger person because of IT.

And yeah, I think we don't do that enough in this country anymore is just I you have agree with me on everything and I have agree with you on everything, but the more were able to just talk openly without a filter about questions like faith, about what our actual convictions are, about what that means to be a citizen of this country. One of the things that I learned is that this narrative of national division is actually a myth. I do believe that, and i'm not saying it's some fake hub ac kind away that overall united because we agree on everything because we obviously don't.

But I think most people in the country do share the same national values in common. The idea that you get to speak your mind or you do what I do as long as our neighbour ts to in return, the idea that the people we elect to run the government ought to be the ones who actually run the government, not some unelected burek rat as a hired hand. The issuing edicts from my, I think most people in amErica agree on these things.

At least eighty percent do, and twenty percent are Younger than me, who are never taught those ideals in the first place, who we can bring along to. And that was by the number one thing I took away from traveling the country, is we had protesters at my events. Often my rule of thun was, unless they're being totally violent and disruptive, give him a mike.

They get to speak their mind as long as they sit down, and less than what everybody else has to say. And there was some beautiful thing, beautiful moments that came out of that, that I didn't expect during the campaign. And so I just do think in this true way, and if you take away one thing from my own experience in the campaign, IT, is that this myth of national division is just, that is a myth.

IT serves certain interests of the people who perpetuate that myth. But if we cut through that, I think we are actually far more united as a country than they will sell you. And I think in a few months, hopefully about two to three months, we may be seeing that on a scale that people may not expect.

I agree with that this is of course, everything is accelerating because of the election. Something happened yesterday that it's getting harder and harder to be shocked by what the by administration does um so much what is unprecedented but something did shock me yesterday where the admins department of justice so called which is a great test, really parody of department of justice indeed two foreigners and named in the indictment three conservative pod casters internet figures, all trump supporters as somehow connected to a foreign country and immediately their contents started disappearing from, say, youtube he pulled a big documentary of youtube this morning because the bite administration said, yes, it's beliefs so basically you have the by administration's department of justice shutting down criticism of the by administration and I don't know if i'm going insane or i'm missing S A bit. Is anyone noticing this? I was just loud so so there's I am glad right this .

up there is definitely something really weird to go on on here so I don't have any facts any different than what other people have read about this in the last twenty four hours. But I do have a gut instinct about IT that's pretty strong. And IT comes from just basic pattern recognition of the last two election cycles.

Okay, but my background is an entrepreneur. I have not been paying super close attention american politics till about twenty sixteen and then much more, and twenty, twenty. And then, of course, some in the thick of IT now.

But let me take those last two presidential elections. So this myth of an doesn't exist and sort of foreign country attempted in interference, of course, IT does. That happens worldwide, happens here in the united states.

But this idea of russian election interference, in particular, let's trace the history of that in each of the last two elections. Go to twenty sixteen, the the allegation of russian election and reference to support Donald trump. When you double click on that, look at what was the actual foreign country interference there.

IT was actually U. S. Election interference in the us. Election through the steel door, but laundered through the narrative of actual russian interference. And actually there was a russian immediately to perpetuate that attempt, an election interference about truth russia collusion hoax that's in twenty sixteen. Now we get to twenty twenty again.

Domestic election interference is the systematic suppression of the hand biden laptop story that didn't happen by russian companies, didn't happen by the russian government IT. Happened by us. Social media companies acting at the direction of deep state actors in the U.

S. Government that suppressed probably a story whose suppression change change the outcome of the twenty twenty presidential election. But again, what did they say? They said, didn't know this was russian, this information.

So I was singing pattern. In two thousand sixteen, there's domestic attempt of election interference, but they run IT through a russian smokescreen. In two thousand and twenty, there's domestic election interference, but they run IT through a russian smokescreen. So this time around, when I see mary garland in the department of justice sitting under the bite administration, suddenly alleging election interference by the russians, I don't have any facts other than to say my radar goes off and says, I want to know where that election interference is actually beginning. A lot of those allegations that they were somehow helping trump. B, I actually got curious, actually, you could make strong arguments that a lot, these posts or whatever, actually weren't helping trump at all, but the fact that they called that russian election interference again, just suggest to me that this may be part of a pattern of what we saw twenty, sixteen and twenty twenty. So I don't really buy what they're selling on this yet.

Como is losing, which he is. SHE is, she's losing in the states that matter. Pennsylvania was kin in arizona. amazing. So all of a sudden the other side is being funded by russia of all the countries that in their fear on elections. And there are many russians at the bottom of list, okay, in terms of effectiveness, but it's a little they're going back to the russia, russia, russia. Well, again.

yeah.

I think this is not a super clever group.

right? I think that I think the promise they are actually a super clever group. I think that this is just the beginning of a value.

So this one is not going to a land. I think the public, for me once, for me twice, shame on me. Fall me twice, you shame and use something, whatever the expression is.

The reality is I think they're going be some weird things that happen in the next two months. I think they're going to be some depending what happens in the debate. I'm going to the debate next week and fill the health hia.

It's going to be tuesday. I think it's gonna probably a donal trump dative demolition destruction of the other side. But but don't cheer too much, right?

Because I was at the last one and that's actually in some ways was a trap. That was obviously a trap. They scheduled the earliest ever presidential debate in us. history.

Why did they do that? IT was obvious. IT was that they wanted to test bit as a final trial balloon.

And they're got a free option. Because if you did, great, great, they turn the race upside down. But if but is poorly as they did, they swap them out.

If is something unthinkable, that became the obvious. So I think if we have another debate smacked down on tuesday as I if I was a betting man, I predict that all about to have. I also would predict we're going to have some very strange things that happen on the back of that as well.

And I think in some ways, the republican parties just been so behind on this, I pray, makes some people mad by lifting the curtain on this. But last year, to make the republican party debate stage, the final condition is we had to sign all the candidates. Roomy Daniel's requirement had some words to say that I had a certain outcome there, but but SHE made to sign a beat biden pledge.

And so this is an july or August of last year, and I said this, this is dumb, this is silly because we're not going to be running against joe biden. So we're going to spend entire year of financial, political and messaging capital running against to canada, who is not the actual people going to run against. But IT was the beat biden pledge that was just the dogmatic messaging of the republican party.

And what, you know, a year and half later, we have wasted a lot of money, a lot of time, lot of credibility with the public. We even boosted credibility because they got that last month where they got to criticize jo biden. So now when they're not actually going after coming a, they still look even handed to the american public because they went after democrat.

Most recently, in some worse. That was the worst of all words. And so I think we need to get Better as a movement, I think as a republican party on stay skeptical on skating to where the puck is going.

And I think ultimately, the way we're going to win this is actually not even by focusing on camera, that sort of what i've land on this is people say she's a communist st. Or she's, you know, a socialist or whatever. I think that is giving her a little too much credit because IT assumes SHE has an ideology, right? SHE doesn't have an ideology.

SHE just does that. Most people in california here, you know, she's just another cog. She's another cog in a machine.

We're not running against a candidate. We are running against a system. And the way we're gona win this is, forget who they put up. Come on.

If they make with the president before the election, who knows? Whatever is IT doesn't matter if we actually win this by offering our own vision of who we are and what we actually stand for, individual, family, nation and god beat race, gender, sexuality and climate, if we have the course to stand for IT. But that's how we that's how we protect ourselves against what I think is going to be a complicated, complicated couple of months ahead is .

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And I don't talk about our stage. I won't bore everyone here, but what you're going to do next. But I I think it's fair to predict that you will remain part of of what you're part of now, which is an effort to save the country. But I think we're falling for IT for sure. The idea that commonly Harris like an actual person, i'm sure he can fog a mayor, but beyond that is she's just discipline sh'll be whatever you want want to be I mean, payer enough you will be a radical vegan and say, circumcision activists, whatever doesn't matter.

SHE might even build a wall. Think he wants .

to one hundred percent know she's a kind of sad puppy, clearly unhappy, terrified. I mean, I know bends are the asia pan news. When I see, i'm like, let's check out of zan's they can she's afraid.

He wakes up afraid every morning and you can tell the people who afraid, which is a lot of people, and she's chief among the fearful. But anyway, the republicans fail for IT, the leadership felt for they're falling for IT now. And they also felt, and I hope you will flush out a little bit, they fell for the idea that the media act independently of the democratic party .

ah I think so and I think that that's at a trap we have repeatedly fAllen into over last eight years. But I just think this idea, it's not an accident that you get job at. And then comes Harris.

There are a lot of intelligent people who are believing or not. Intelligent people have high I Q brain power. They can make their own decisions. They are thinkers who democrats, people on the left, ideo gues.

So people like you and I might disagree with, whom you and I might actually be friends with, because we respect them even though we disagree with them. It's not an accident that you get joe biden and then a common Harris, and then the next puppet they put up bitten has cognitive deficits, right? Those are not a bug.

There are a feature for the people who control him. Commonly, Harris has a different kind of deficit. He has policy deficits, cognitive deficits.

You could argue those are also, again, not a bug. There are feature for the people who actually Operate the puppet. And so I think that it's gonna be a losing game unless we see ourselves is running against that system.

And I think this is actually gonna. Let's assume Victory here is let's fast forward. Just winning the election is actually are we actually going to do what conservatives, republicans, when theyve goon, have long failed to do?

I think we felt the real myth we fAllen into is this trap of believing that we can reform this system, that we're going to reform the deep state, that we're gona fire. Christopher ray, whoever at the top of the FBI put in a new figure head on top that we're going to reform the bureaucracy. And I think that reform is just a myth, right? It's impossible.

We're not running against start that Christopher ray is an individual bad actor at the top, the FBI. He's just another cog in the system just like commoner's, just like joe biden is. Is the question for us the real test for us? I think tucker is not going to be the election in november IT is gonna be whether we have the spine to actually see through and do the hard thing that we've never done before.

Nobody's done IT no in down. Trump is first terms the closest we've gotten, but nobody's really stepped up instead internal. We actually gonna try to reform and massage this thing to incremental window dress IT advance for our own goals.

Or are we actually going to get in there and to shut IT down? And I think that is the one answer that will save this country. And and I I sporting down a trump, because I believe is the man who is going to be the best suited to get that job done. But the real test comes not in november, but after that. To me.

I mean, I couldn't agree with you more, and i'm thrill to hear that. I think I spent thirty five years living in washington. I have some appreciation for how rotten the system is. It's so rotten, it's like, mind boggling actually. But in order to shut IT down, in order to make the changes necessary to preserve the country, you're gna have to actually ignore the media.

yes.

And why can republicans do that?

So I actually met and at georgia miloni, when he came to the united states, not that long as she's a SHE, a good leaders, had a good conversation with her. SHE gave me a tactic. I am going to try IT if i'm in the position, if I am in a compromise tion, ever.

I think anybody who is in a compromise size of leadership to do the same thing, SHE said. SHE doesn't read the newspaper. She's, I couldn't tell you what's on the front page of the newspaper.

I couldn't tell you what's on television. I just talked to people. That's all I need to talk to you.

Then I make the decisions that actually need to be made that be my recommendation in every republican politician. I don't follow IT. I have to have admit i'll leave, pick this up after my campaign.

But if I were to run my campaign again, if I was to go back in time and do IT again, I probably the number one thing that I would do to you don't need to watch IT. You don't need you could participate in IT. You could actually, i'll take a hostile interview, anybody wants to.

But whatever the headline is, whatever the TV commentary or is social matic commentary in some way Better look at at IT. Just talk to those tens of thousands of people across the country where you actually learn that that myth of division that you're fed, the whole thing was false. You can just call the bluff by literally switching IT, often pretending IT doesn't exist. I think it's actually a pretty good tactic.

I am an TV in many years, and I worked in TV. I don't think a lot of crack dealers leave IT around the kitchen. You know the main yeah, this is an ugly products.

I don't wanted to my house, but I totally agree. But it's just interesting even now I know republican leaders probably pretty well, meaning people who if they get attacked on twitter and the new york times or if. Trucks tod of nbc news, I M it's all like a joke, but if they say some critical of the politicians, we have to deal with this. What I just host the middle inger and laugh. I've never understood .

we would did some of that during the campaign.

but what you didn't?

Yes, but I think that you I was surprised by what an affect some of that actually had. I was actually want to probably done expected successes that I did have in my campaign. I only got eight percent of the vote in iwa.

But actually in taking down a lot of the media, exposing a lot of that corruption, I think that that's that's important work to continue to do. There's a risk. I think there's always and here's what I would say.

We talk about shing on the deeps day. We talk about taking on the media. Here's here's the honest truth. You're always taking some risk. This is a question of which risk you're willing to take in the context of speaking back, in the context of when the media attacking you or you're confronting a hard truth.

One risk might take is that you're gonna be too unfilled, that you're just going to take your filter off, say too much and say something that defend somebody. That's a risk. I've done IT.

I've made that mistake. I don't think you've ever made that mistake, but but I made that mistake and that's one risk. I always going to take that risk.

The other risk is that your self sensor and you say that, okay, because i'm going to offend somebody, i'm actually going to restrict what I say and think three times before every other and I make both of them are risks, is only questions. Which risks are you willing to take? Same with respective of reforming the government, right?

I said getting there and shut IT down fine. What does that mean? I would fire seventy five plus percent of all federal bureaucrats on day one. Shut down the FBI, the atf, the cdc, the department of education, just shut them the hell down. All right.

But you're taking i'm just shut down up now you're taking a risk, right? I mean, am I gonna you? That's the exact perfect amount we need to because I can tell you that you either the risk that you're going to cut so much fat that you also cut some muscle or you're otherwise taking the other risk that you're not cutting enough fat, you're a headed hydro.

You cut one off and grows right back is just a question of which risk you're willing to take. And there's times in american history where one of those might be the right risk of the other. But right now, I think we live in a moment where the risk you need to take, and it's not just me or tucker or Donald trump, anybody else, the risk one of you needs to take is when you're the only person in a room who believes what you do, forgot, takes stand up and say, you say, IT with this fine.

Don't apologize for your beliefs, say in public what you will say in private at the dinner table and you might offend somebody is a risk of taking but take the risk when we put down trump back in the White house hold him or an jy answer me anybody else who's part of an accountable to say you said you want to get in there and actually drain the swamp and attacked the deep state, but got, say, get in there and actually do IT and you to take a risk is is going to be perfect. There's going to be some bumps along the way, but that's just the risk that we choose to take. And so that's kind of where I land on. This is not that i'm giving you some perfect answer, it's just that, that's the risk that I believe we need to take and .

i'm more little to take and you have taken that risk, and I just have to ask, sorry, that there are people watching my going to anyway, what effect is that had on your personal life, your friendships, your family? Because people don't say what they really think, because they worry about the cost. What's IT been for you?

Yeah, I mean, I think so it's been different stages of IT. okay. So initially, so say this is a lot of people in the campaign.

There's there's a lot of things that I would do differently to a lot of people who worked for me in past. Companies have made, for example, are close friends, one of their frustrations that they've shared with me. Now the six, eight months senses is everybody got to see us, the fighter.

That's great, but that's not the side of you that we know there's more of you than that. And the risk are taken. There is my philosophy .

in the campaigns.

somebody hits you, you he, him back ten times harder. I don't care if you're republican democrats. That's how we're going to run this. And at some point, that's the way you ve got you ve got to proceed in the first step. but.

I also preach to myself what I would teach my two sons is that the number one person whose most responsible for whether not you achieve your goal, not the only factor, but the number one factor of whether or not you achieve your goal is actually you. And I said out to achieve a goal last year, I didn't achieve IT. And I think that I could blame the media.

I could blame a lot of the consultants, I could blame a lot of factors along the way. But at the end of the day, I think that there's a lot that I would probably do differently as well to make sure that i'm able to allow the people in the country to see the whole of who I am. And that's one of the hardest st things to do is a politician an because you ask about friends and family.

That's the thing that probably hurt my family the most is not that they couldn't deal with the insults or the the dirty ness of parties in politics, but the sense that there's someone they know but the impression that the public is given is a very different person. That disconnect was probably the thing that was hardest my wife and and probably some my closest friends. But you they are tough making handling and they were still supportive of what we did.

And it's a process that Bruces you a little bit. They're some sort of wounds and scars that never fully heal. But I got to thank my family, who was going to three year old, now four year old son.

He was three deer in the campaign, came with me every campaign event. My wife is a surgeon who did not actually sacrifice seeing one patient over the course of the year that he was supposed to see and still traveled with me for the entire campaign. And during that pain and what those the there are the people that got me through IT as well. I judge men .

by their wives, and I like too much more after meeting. And I have to say.

that's no, I do.

I do. I'm very judging that way. Was there any politics? You came from business, had a really successful business career, and then you became so distressed after reading these books about what was happy in amErica that you want to bring for president.

But you won a politician. You contempt politicians. Where there any you met who you were impressed by?

Yeah, a good number. actually. Actually I say this not in some sort of like large scale, flatter, but actually have been more impressed.

McDonald trump, the more i've actually got to know him, and I say that because he's also somebody who I know how heart IT was for me is sort of make the truth of I live a good life down to trump, to live to good life, but to be able to lay that down and actually say, no, this is my purpose and calling i'm not gonna p at anything. I probably wouldn't have run for president if he hadn't done IT first. So I got to give credit where credits do there. I think I think about other other people who are respect I like a guy like take a ran tall or Thomas macy, right guys who that .

there is probably .

the ones who would get closest to the georgian miloni model of like not giving a crap about what the press has to say, but actually just onna step up and say, anyway, have only gonna know Thomas masi a little bit more recently. But rand paul have gone to know over the course of the last couple of years, in his father, ron paul, I would give even greater creditor for blazing that trail.

So there there's a longer list of others I could I could probably give you, but not that much longer. But but I would say there's a handful of people that, that gave me in a real inspiration that somebody with conviction that doesn't compromise on I could still drive change. And those would be .

some of the guys i'd give you. I strongly agree with you. I ve spent my whole life despising politicians, not just done principle, but also personally as people.

And I feel that way about most of them still with a lot of evidence. But I have to say, I look around and there are more people I admire. I keep me from saying this in politics then really any time I can remember.

And I think there's so much pressured downward, exerted pressure on all of us to obey, to repeat the lives, to get in line, that the people who refuse to do that are extraordinary people. And our special guests tonight, i'm Better to ask on is one of those people. And he's in the rare position of typically a public care begins and people are so impressed by the person, and then they see his flaws, and he falls from Grace.

The person about to invite on is the one person i've ever met who spent, I don't know, twenty years being denounced pretty much every week by every single news organization in the world as a dangerous, mentally ill lunatic making totally unsupported, anti scientific claims about totally safe medical products. And this man, in the face of opposition that no politician i've ever seen, ever seen, including from within his own tribe and family, he persisted in saying what he thought was true. And i've known this ban for a while, and i've admire him for a long time.

And what's amazing is to wake up in a country that in some ways is not getting Better, but to wake up in a country that all of the student has stopped mockingly man as a crazy person. And I started to realize that the lan brave voice may have been right along. And so it's an honor to introduce Robert carney, junior.

So we had this conversation last week that I felt a lot of conversation with a lot of people on camera. But the conversation that we had, the things that you said to me last week, I will not forget. And it's from an outsiders perspective IT seems like your public here is not only not ended in some way, it's beginning in a new way, in a really powerful way.

And you described, you decried three issues that are central, not just to your politics, but to your to your life. And if I remember you direckly, I think they were sowing down the number of people who are killed, a broad in wars, okay, with a lot of wars opposing the pointless once protecting the natural environment that had created for us to enjoy nature and protecting the health of children. And I think those are three things you mention. I'm wondering if you could .

just expand on that.

I got into my career, was most of the an environment of protection. And I want to work in one thousand nine hundred and eighty three for a blue color coalition of commercial and recreation Fishermen who mobile is to recall laim hudson river from its polluters. And there were people who were capitalist.

They came from an industry that was three hundred and fifty years old, is the oldest commercial Fishery in north amErica on the hudson river. And they saw this industry destroy, not because in any intrinsic flaws, but because a large company, the general electric company, had been able to use its political cloud to do something illegal, which was, is to dump its toxic pcb. Is into the hot river.

And when I first started working on the hot, and there were twenty five hundred families working on the river, enriching our culture, our pallet, our economy, the light of the hudson valley, connecting us to our history, to our landscapes, to the waterway, is ten, twenty thousand generations of human beings that we were here before. There were laptops, they were using the same fishing methods. They were taught by the alcohol m good indians and the original duck seven years.

And no amsterdam then passed on to the generators. And all of us, they couldn't fish anymore because that we're a blending efficient, the hudson. They were loaded with toxic piece IT bees.

And the state of new york's said, you can eat them. And they recognize that, you know, these were capitals. They were people, small business people. And they realized that that government was includes with the pollutants, and that if they wanted to reflation M, M. The river for themselves, they, we're going to have to do with themselves, and went to the government agencies, the core of engineers, the conservation department, the coast guard, and that we've given the bombs rush. They were told these are important people, we can force them to comply with a lot.

And they came to the inclusion in the only way they were going to registers the river is if they confront that the polluter is directly, they ve found an age and navigational status c called the eight and eighty eight river in harper that allowed people to prosecute bloaters and then collect bounties. And they started swing polluters. They hired me as their attorney.

And one nine hundred and eighty four, we brought cases against over five hundred successful cases on the odds. And we forced the utter to spend about five and a half billion dollars remediating the remain today. The hudson is the Richard's waterway, north atlantic.

My experience was was a different than a lot of environmental as who have a kind of look but on touch. My experience was about people who their communities were, absolutely the people who are part of that commercial Fishery. IT dictated the purity of since the abundance that Fishery dictated, their livelihoods, their property values, their recreational values.

What is their social safety net? If you, if you lost your job, you could still fish, you could feed your family. And that was something that the state of new york, the constitution, the state says that people that they own the rivers and the water is the state not owned by the conservation department.

They're not owned by the general electric company. They're not owned by the big polluters. They're owned by the people. Everybody has right to use them.

Nobody can use them in a way that will diminish or injure their use enjoyment by others. Every child in new york as an a constitutional right to throw a plug into the river and bring out a strike bars and bring out a met my family.

That that was the essential you less than that. I learned there about an agency capture, then a loud made a kind of understand, have a model or a blueprint. Or is that thing was that I saw what I started starting the pharmaceutical industry and.

And so those are critical issues. The other edge eye came in and in this campaign, n three major issues. When was the censorship? And you and I feel the same way. And any government can silence its critics, has a license for any kind of atrocities.

Can I distribute that? Any government that can silence its critics has a license for any kind of atrocities. Put that on your refrigerator, because that's true.

Able to Adams and madison said that we put the frame of the speech in the first amendment. There's all the other bill rights are dependent on IT.

And sure enough, when the government found out, discover that IT could sense her a speech in early twenty twenty, silence doctor, silence mother, silence people who are you people's scientists? What we're saying, what other alternatives, what what you're doing? A lockdowns aren't going to work them as have no science by on the social is that say as no that those people were in silence? They were margorie ed, they were vilified, they were demonized.

And as soon as the government figured out that you could get away with that, he went after all of our other constitutional, or right, the first thing I did is IT went after the other leg of the first amount, which is dream of religion. IT closes every church in our country for a year with no side of excitation, and went after the third leg at the first men, and which is freed of assembly with his very bizarre social distancing regulations, that, again, they now admit we're not sciences space. They went after then the fifth amendment, which is property rides, they close three point three million businesses with no to process, no just compensation, no sciences c citation, no notice and comment rule making, no public hearing ings. All the things that i've been suing governments and corporations for for forty years, all the intention of democracy. And are.

图片。 That the government officials have to go through before they deprive us of rights. And not of that happened. And they went after seventh amendment, which behind jurney, which which this seven amendment gives us the rise.

The jury trial is the same man is very simple and says, no american should be the right of a trial, a jury of their peers in case their controversies exceeding twenty five dollars. That's such. There is no pandemic exception. And by the way, the frames the constitution knew all about pandemics.

There were two epidemic during the revolutionary y one of the, a male epidemic that desperate the armies of Virginia, and then A A small pox empac mic IT designated the armies of new england at the very time when united Arnold, who is our greatest general, conquer montreal. All so we were in the inner city of montreal. We controlled montreal, all which meant we controlled canada.

And he had withdraw his troops because he could not hold the city, because so many of his troops were down with smallpox. Otherwise, canada today would be part of the united states. But for that small box epidemic, and the framers all knew that, and when they gather ten years later, nine years later, and filled IT, altha had to ratify the build rights between the end of the revolution and the ratification that deliver rights in seventeen and ninety two.

They were epidemics in every city that killed tens of thousands of people. Malaria epidemics with small pox, yellow fever, typhoid color. They all knew about epidemics. Yes, they did not put an epidemic exception in the constitution. They wrote that document for hard times.

One of the things you bring that up, Bobby, and I think one of things we often fall into the trap of in an election year is to see, let's take the most important of those amendments, the first amendment, through partisan lines. Do we have a democratic party that has been using social media companies to silence the speech through the back door that they could down through the front door? Absolutely we have.

Is that we something we need to hold them accountable for? absolutely. But but I think that the in this one of things I love about you talker is you're willing to chAllenge people three hundred and sixty degrees.

I don't care if your republican not as I had a conversations of a number of republicans in the last week who are rAiling appropriately against brazil for its banning of x, which is proposal. Actually, this is a major western, supposedly allied nation. The very people who claim that we want to stand for human rights and democracy abroad have nothing to say when IT comes to brazil, banning in a social media platform.

But then I chAllenge somebody, they say people, because I know what their views are in this question to say IT seems sounds like a pretty bad idea for a government of a supposedly free country that just bands out right a social media form because they don't like the way that IT Operates. And here's the part where we chAllenge our own people. That's exactly what the U.

S. Government has done with respective platform that I don't love that much. I don't like I don't like many aspects of at all tiktok, but I do think that we live in one of these moments were the trap in an election.

You're just one of things I loved about your canada acy bobbies leaving the democratic party, ran as an independent, allowed you to do. What more of us in either party need to be doing is question the orthodoxies of both parties and go back to first principles of what's in the U. S.

constitution. And you got to have the same shoe fit the other foot, whether you are democrat or republican. And it's one of things I loved about the way you in your campaign.

Thank you that I saw vice present Harris this week. I gave me a statement where he said that he said to think he said one mad and everyone must Better watch out because if, because if he abused free speech on twitter, that he would get a privilege taken away from him.

Not a privilege.

yeah. And IT isn't a privilege, you know, it's the right and and he said he gave a press conference in which he said that these companies need to be purified, are putting this information and and this information and eight speech up on the internet. And the thing is with the and and vice prison candidate walls said, the first amendment does not protect this information of this information but but that's not right.

The first amen and protects this information and IT protects misinformation and IT IT protects lies. IT protects all speech IT was not written for this speech that we all wanted hear. IT was written to protect his speech that nobody want to see here.

And we have a democratic party, the party I grew up in. And the word liberal is a derivative of the term for free speech. So that was the central core of this party when I was growing up. My father, my uncle, love this countries so much because of they'll the, the freedom to debate, have conversations, the free. This idea that the free flow of information was was the sunlight IT was the soil IT was the IT was the water for democracy and without a democracy, with weather and die, they knew that, oh, I have a case against the bind administration.

And I was just granted an injunction in the federal courts, the Kennedy version by and judge doty, the federal judge in that decision, wrote in the earlier decision, he wrote one hundred and fifty five phage decision that details what we now know about the biden White houses censorship program and what beauty details in is is, at thirty seven hours, have to retook the ills of offers, swearing top. All the constitution just includes the first amendment. You can opened up a portal and ordered the social media companies, facebook, instant youtube, twitter, begin sensor his political critics on medical information, but also other information as well, including criticism, the ukraine war.

And I was the first person that they began, that they ordered facebook, just answered facebook actually push back at one point and said, the facebook complied and took down my entire instagram account, almost a million followers, but they couldn't find a single factual misstatement error on my instagram account and facebook during the email exchange, which we now have pushes back at one point. And as this is actually not actually ironist. And so they had to coin a new word, which was mal information, which is information, factual assertions that are technically correct but are nevertheless inconvenient for for the government.

And they ordered facebook to sense her misinformation, disinformation and mall information. That portal, which they open the bide mode, has turned over the FBI and manages. So you have the FBI participating in the censorship of american citizens engaging in political speech. Ef behind and invited the CIA sia, which is a group that you may not have heard of, but IT is the center of the censorship industry complex, the dhs, the irs, which I don't know what they were censoring, and an nih, cdc and fda to participate in this censorship project. And I now have an injunction against the biden White house from doing that to me anymore.

But IT is troubling to me for the very reason you have the effects mentioned about what happened in brazil. And tucker, you and I talked about this working an emergence now of total military, an ism in all the western democracies, like nothing that I could have ever imagined. Europe no longer has free speech.

Europe has, is now the european and is efficiently censoring information on the internet. And head of the the european commission, a man named tory bits on, recently sent a letter to in on most saying that if he air on an edited version, a live interview with president trump on, and he would be fine as much as six percent of the value of the company. And then france, a week later, arrest pavel thereof.

When he land, they found her of telegram when he lands on a gas stop, a fuel stop. In france, this is particularly an army, because france had his has robust a passion and tradition for free speech, as we had in this country during american real, during the french revolution seventeen eighty nine, the french republic adapted all of these very, very strong laws, guarantee freedom of speech, and then in the thousand nine hundred and eighty, they ve had another school of laws, again, protecting free station. They guarded that and nurture that as much as we in this country, as much as any country in the world, or to see france do this.

And by the way, there's no reason for them to arrest him because he's a citizen of arby dobie. France has a an extradition agreement with abby dobie so they can actually like them. That furthermore, of the european union, already a sensory content, although I want an extra step to arrest and punish h this person and put him in prison, send a message to all of us that about whose in charge.

And that is terrifying to me. I have so many democratic friends. Jimmie tour was on here earlier, a fantastic. And he was talking about january, he six. And when I say people broke an orge, generally six.

If he broke the origin and punish, what was the republic threatened on january six was and even if if even, you know, if the building was burned down, it's not the end of the republic. IT is not. And you have the us.

Minutes over the area. You have these agencies. We have institutions in our country that are still functioning. We have a congress in sera that would resist the violent over through of the american government. And I don't think we were close to a violent over throughout the american government.

Those attacks on free speech, to me, are a genuine existent al red, the democracy is a republic and man.

so the question is you, I think you've correctly described, and I hope you will say that every time you speak publicly. And I I hope to do the same, that we're watching the transformation of the free world into a totalitarian system. I know that gets an overstatement. And so the questions for each monster with evac, how do we stop that? Yes, because if we don't, then we're done.

yes. So I I grew everything bobbi said. I think there's two steps to stopping IT that I want to highlight though.

I do worry about what's happening england. I do not worry. Worry about what's happening in brazil, in france and other allies, supposedly free nations. But I worry most about when it's happening right here at home in the united states of america.

And so the best step to stopping the rise of this authority, m around the world is to first stop IT permanently here in the united states of america. And I do think that that is especially important for the world because as much as you you correctly laid out, france is history. Even if you look at even france, but let alone the other countries, none of those other countries put the first amendment first, right, so we can reach other countries about their failure to respect free speech.

But our whole national identity, like who we are as americans, the existence of this country, the fact that we all call ourselves american, that only means something in reference to our actual rights that we have given the people of this country since seven hundred and seventy six. So he goes to the heart of our own national identity itself. So the first thing I would talk is, yes, are we seeing you around the world? Yes, but fixing the problem starts right here at home.

The second thing I would say this is, the harder part is that as much as the three of us here and were in lockstep alignment on being free speech absolutist on this stage, as much as we can point to our finger at the government, and it's overreach of working with corporations and working through back door government regulation and back door action to suppress in silence speech that only work if you have a population that is willing to comply. okay. And I think that there's another half of this problem that if we're being really honest with ourselves, we have to talk about, which is what is IT inside each of us that makes us, as so many are, want to bend the knee to that new regime.

And we can complain about the regime all we want. We're missing the other half of the problem unless we also feel that void that causes people to bend that knee, right? If you don't pledge allegiance to the american flag, you're going to pledge allegiance to a different flag instead. If you don't believe in god, are going to believe in a new false, do instead. And so I think that that's the harder part we need to fix in the countries that revival of purpose and meaning and grounding ourselves in our identity as americans.

And I think if we do, if we get that part right, if we as a citizen ery, we as individuals saying to know nobody's going to tell me or shame me or threaten me to do anything other than express my opinion and tell you who I am and what I believe, then I think the government part will actually solve itself along with IT. And so some of that, not just on the government, it's on us. And they put the second amended after the first amendment for a reason.

It's the one that puts the teeth into all of the others. And that too is part of what our founding fathers in vision. And seventy and seventy six.

that's what I think. Bobby. Er are you are you hopeful that the tide of totalitarian ism can be turned? And if so, how I think .

IT all depends on this election is I don't think I try not to. Bad mouth other candidates because I just I think you know my approach is to try to damp p in the venti all in the anger and the hatred. I think we have to stop hating each other.

And but. I don't from the statements that amharic makes and that her vice president makes, I don't think they have have a clear vision of what the country supposed to look like. I don't think they hand understand the first amendment.

I don't think I understand the constitution. I saw a come, let you know at the convention. And SHE gave a speech that was very bellows. And the leger's IT was like IT was a kind of speech that was writing by near canons and the CIA they had the first time in history they had a CIA former director speaking right before the amenda had military people speaking at the democratic convention.

Democratic convention was the, was a democratic, was the anwar party, with the pro constitution party, with the party that was against wall street and against and representing the little guys, the cops, the firefighters union and labor people. And I talk you about this on the show last week, in the twenty twenty election, roughly fifty percent of the people in this country float for donal trun. And but that group devoted for tonal trump represented thirty percent of the wealth in our country.

The fifty percent of the people that voted for joe bide represented seventy percent of the wealth. There has been an inversion now with a republican party has become the party of the common man of working people of the middle class. And the democratic party has become the party of all street of the military and dual complex, a big farm, big agriculture.

Big, the big banking systems and all of them you, what donal trm calls the deep state, which is this this web financial interest, that not is unnecessarily a little conspiracy, but it's a conspiracy of self interest and functions together in random, the shift wealth upward to climb down hotel etern controls and to transform this country from the world's examples, democracy into A A corporate laptop, racy and a very, very oppressive all article system, the kindness system. And we fought a revolution to over a throat in seventy and seventy six. wow.

Bless you for saying that. Okay, I have I have a final question for each of you, and it's one of the reasons that i'm fascinated by you both respect you both very gratefully. You're here, not there.

One of you needs to be doing this. You both just ran, you both dropped out, you both keeping going again. You're not doing that for the money.

You're not doing here for the agent lation that media hates you both doesn't make your life, no, it's true. Doesn't make your life less complicated. It's incredibly tiring in some point in tiresome, but you persist both why the.

gratitude. I think that my parents came to this country with no money forty years ago, and in a single generation, what have I found? A multimillion dollar of companies.

My wife lived the american dream, were raising two boys in ohio. Thankfully, god, with god's blessings, health fly and happily IT, is my sense of gratitude to this country to have made possible. What my parents are, me growing up, we've never imagined was possible.

And you know what, have we given a lot .

of thought to this idea of, obviously, say a lot, making amErica great again. And of course, there's an astoria in that, right? The country that my parents came into that we struck with the melting pot back in the one thousand nine hundred ninety. The notion of a simulating to one country which had a common identity has now become a microprograms sions.

So there's certain elements of what we missed from the nineteen nineties, idea that the best person gets the job regardless of their skin color, or the idea that you know what you get to speak your mind as long as I get to, and return these basic coin to ideas, we want to bring that back. But for me, I think that's not good enough. Actually, I think that we in some ways part of amErica isn't just make amErica great again.

It's, I think this what Donald p means that when the second time around you can hear IT between the lines of what he says is what moves me too is I want to make amErica greater than it's ever been before. Actually, I think our best days as a country can still actually be ahead of us as a relatively Young person. Now I hope my best days are still ahead of me.

I don't take that for granted. Every day is a blessing, and we wake up tomorrow. That's a gift too. But I hope my best days are ahead of me. And I do think it's also going to take some people from the next generation to make a country whose best days are ahead of us, too. And so I don't know what form that's gonna for me in the next step, but whatever is we're going to keep going to each play our part. And if we each do, I think that not in some fake politician way, but in a true way, I think we are gna make amErica greater than it's ever been before. And as what we're shooting .

for in november. Thank you. Bobby IT has been a long slog for you, and you are more energetic and energize. And ever IT seems to me, why are you doing this?

I talked to moment of about what I see is a devolution of american democracy and how it's turning into something that is, I would describe as a totality and system. And I see, because of what i've been doing for twenty years working on chronic disease issues, and what I did for twenty years before that working on environmental issues, I see how these powers, these, these economic aggregations, can commoditize everything as they commoditize the water, they commoditize, they steal IT from the public.

They turned IT in when general electric on pcp and the huddle IT was privatized, and other fish in the odds and and turning them in into its own private property. As a private hosts, are landscapes, the purple mountains, majesty. And then when I started fighting on public politicians, I saw how their privatizing our children.

They're literally stealing their out. We have, we have in this country now that siccus children in the world. We have the highest ronit disease burden of any nation on earth.

And my uncle was president. We were spending, we had six percent of americans hecaton onic disease today, almost sixty percent to. And when my uncle was president, I was a boy.

We spend the zero on chona disease in this country. Today, we spent four point three trillion. And that money is going upward into the pockets of certain people and main leads of pharmaceutical industry.

The most the the the most valuable asset in amErica today is a sick child, as if you can get a child sick when they're very Young and get them dependent on and at at all and insulin and and seizure medication. You have now a client for life that is spending is generating thousands of dollars, potentially a week in revenue for these interests. And so I see how they're commoditized.

Everything there are stealing everything we've value you. And they are ultimately that comes from them, be able to overrun our constitutional rights. And I saw IT during cove IT. I saw the whole thing in in miniature, compressed time, exactly what they're up to.

And I remember in twenty, twenty and August, I was in berlin, I was giving in a speech to one point three million people who had come from all over europe. I was, I would stop for for political freedom because they saw what was happening with these Mandates. IT came from every nation in europe to protest them.

And I was, I gave a speech. I ran into an abc film crew there, and they were all wearing masks, and they said to me, why arent you wearing a match here in this big crowd? Chicken hands, aren't you scared of dying? And I said, there is things that scared me a lot more than dying.

And I said, like what and I said like losing my constitutional rights, like having.

Having my children roll up in an amErica where they cannot speak freely and criticize their political leaders. And I we had a whole generation in seventeen and seventy six of people of men and women who gave their fortunes, they gave their property, they gave their status and their wives to giving us this constitution, to giving us this incredible gift. We became the template for the rest of the world.

And seventy and seventy six, we were the only democracy on earth by eighteen sixty five. There were five. By the time my uncle was president, about one hundred and thirty, and by the end of the thousand nine hundred and sixties, there were one hundred and ninety, all based on the american models.

So we truly were the examples, democracy. We were the hope, the light for the whole world. Today, we've lost, we've lost our role as a model.

Nobody wants the system we have. We've got were no longer a moral authority. We've had wrote this through this dynamic.

And I know I don't want that for my children. I want my children to grow up with a hope, with a love with this country that I had. I say, what are they? 人。

In twenty thirteen, there is a poll where they asked Young americans under the age of thirty five, are you proud to be in america? And eighty five percent at the same politic. In six months ago, seventeen percent said, yes, we have a whole generation as loss.

They're pride in being an american citizen, and they've lost hope for their own futures. And we had a generation in seventy and seventy six. Twenty thousand of them died.

A huge of you to be like a million people today. They give us our constitution and you, they said to us that every generation must water the tree of liberty with its own blood. If you're going to hold on to this.

It's not something that I wanted to. I have a really good life, and I had, and I had a great family, that what may I still have A A nuclear family that was me. And I have a big, big example out to.

But I, I really, I didn't feel like I had a choice I, I have to do as the same reason people left their homes. And seventy two, seventy eight years to do something for an idea. And I want to keep that idea for my cats.

Well, god bless you for that, and god bless you beake. What an amazing experience, a wonderful experiences has been. Thank you and thank you.

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