RFK Jr: Teaming up With Trump, Pavel Durov’s Arrest, CIA, and the Fall of the Democrat Party
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But first, our interview with bobbi Kennedy junior, his first since endorsing Donald trump on friday. Here IT is. So people were shocked and a lot of people, you know, well, we're shocked when you endorsed trump. I was not shocked because for all the areas where you disagree on specific issues, there's a consistent theme that I ve noticed in both of your lives, which is you both spent the majority of your life, in your case, your whole life in the american ruling class in both you decided that IT was corrupt and that you are gonna say so out loud a great risk um a great risk to both of you and so IT was probably used to matter a time before you lined in some way. Is that how you see IT?

Yeah I and I you know I think there's been a bunch of real time and political realities rive of four or five throughout american history and I think we're going through one right now. It's a democratic party. And with both political parties we have changed in spray dramatic way. And even I talked are earlier about the transformation of a republic lan party, the party of environmentally ism. Yeah, and you know, with the democratic party has one out one environmental issue, which is this carbon orthodoxy which ends up benefiting, you know, the oil companies in black rock and a goldman acts with offshore wind and carbon capture, hundred billion dollar carbon capture projects, which is part just a strip mine in the middle class and I saying only as you you can talk about the deal party I got ended the environmental movement to do how to had protection, to do that life can, to get tox out of our kids. And none of the eyes are issues at democrats, at the party itself, democrats care about, but the party itself as there's been these big profoundly alignments.

And it's not only unmated SHE, it's really the you know, the domination of this this corrupt merger of state corporate power is happening and washing the they say, now where our democracy has really been subverted by the industries that have taken over the ory agencies and you become transformed into sock my puppies or corporate profit taking and and basically, holly on the subsidy is of the industries they're exposed to regulate. And the democrats are a variety of reason. I watched IT happened over many, many years. I have I have going to this evolution of these democratic institutions that there is no democratic, and they have believe we all have the comparative to judge ourselves on our intentions rather than our actions, right?

Been there. So.

and the democratic party judges itself. IT sees itself. My friends who are democrats see themselves as part of the the good guys, the White heads, and add, you know, there it's kind of there there's like the good guys are in ford, patchy surrounding in the forces of barber's m that are about this is all in the gate and they're the only one.

The only way that keep IT IT by is to elect a president who has dementia. And because you're voting for the apparatus and you're not voting for even another there to handpick a, we had any elections to basically get rid of democracy in order to save IT and handpick. A candidate who is, in forty days now, has not given a interview on any media outlet.

And I think about what my uncle and father would think about, that they pride themselves on. I'm being able to go, but on debate. That was the centerpiece.

You want to have that whole of function of democracy. Who wants to? A newly ideas in the furnace of debate. And I have them rise up of the marketplace ideas and the idea that, you know.

And we had british tradition, and of churchill and the others in the house of commons being able to defend their policies and being force to defend their policies as articulate eloquently. And, you know, my uncle and father, I thought we should that ideas are important, and we should be able to defend them. And if you can't defend, there's something wrong with you. yes.

And you know why? H, so we have a presidential canary that was selected by the democratic party. What can I do that? And you know, one of things that my uncle, father will always think about is, how do we look to the rest of the world? right? They were conscious that america, I was the template for democracy when we created a modern democracy.

And seventeen, eighty nine, or seventy and ninety one on the world of rides, which was ratified. We were the only two ocracoke earth by eighteen sixty five, during the end of where there were five, and there were all models on america. And by the time my uncle took all of this, he was about one hundred and fifty.

And by the time, by the end of the sixty hundred and ninety, they're all based on an american model. And you know, we have very much were the examples nation, and we were the example of democracy around the globe and people, and they were very conscious. They were, they were embarrassed first by the ciller rights movement because that he said, what is the rest of the world can to think about IT? And then they realized what we Better correct? You know the problem yeah because I like everything that they did.

They were conscious and they were being watched. What is the rest of world? Think of american democracy. Right now we we have in one party um selected a man with the matter to lead the free world and then turned around and picked to a person a woman who cannot give an interview SHE cannot defend american her vision or america's record in the world and then SHE gave this in the person.

Harris gave this speech, the convention that was was written by nations and CIA directors talking at this, at the democratic convention itself, people talking in the democratic convention. My father, my uncle, with the party of any war, my uncle was asked by his best friend, built them in one of these two best friends who ran the long in pose, what do you want on your grapes, on your paths? And my uncle said immediately, he kept the peace.

He said the primary job of the president, united said, was to keep the country out of war. He said he, he didn't want children. And at american asia, when they heard about the united states of america, to think of him. And with IT gone, I wanted them to think of A P scores volunteer and the alliance es for progress and us ID, which were programs that he created to build the middle class to and run the oligarch and run the military hunters.

They used to receive the USA and instead go to record the port and build institutions, education and health and and all the institutions of democracy, to continue to model IT for the rest of world and live up to what we were supposed to be doing, which is to encourage the growth of of democratic room. So now you having, you know, we have A A system that produce people who you know, a candidate, and in the democratic party who who can even defended america's record in the world, and who is who is baring this kind of war mongers, you know, military domination ideology that's gotten in such trouble. It's caused a calamity in our country.

It's gutted the middle class, it's made us a prior around the globe. It's great. And IT LED to the that rise of bricks. It's leading to the rise of the hilti an at them all over the world.

And you know I say there's finally that them that if you really look at what's happening in the democratic party today, it's a party that word dim of in greek means people. But it's a party, it's also face in the people, is a party that needs, I am clad, control. So they didn't trust anybody during a David real of action.

They ve got rid of the primaries because they can trust the people. They then picked, hand picked, as president Harris, with no election and no, even pretty tense of election, because they didn't trust the people. And you know, you have and are the party now of the censorship. And how can .

you have a democracy with censorship?

You cannot have a democracy. They're absolutely incompatible. And everybody knew that everybody, you know you want, I will raise reading or well. And as is huxwell and you know Robert highline and alex under sold needs and and all of these other books, I were part of classical literature that was taught every american classroom. I said the first step to totalitarian and is always speak with censorship is the first time that the super slope, and there's no time that we look back in history and to say that people who are censoring speech with a good guys, there are always the bad guys that you guys we knew, know.

We know that they are the guys who are going to end up cracking the whip on this all in and you know being are are overloads and so and then you know the whole thing about, like you and I would have to clip of a tamala governor was saying that government should be the ultimate arbiters of what is protected speech and what is not? No, he is something that the first amendment does not protect misinformation and this information. But IT does the first remember that was was written to protect not only true speech, but false speech, and speech not not IT wasn't there and is unnecessary to protect the kind of speech that everybody wants to hear. It's there to protect the kinds speech and nobody wants to here.

right? Especially speech that is critical of the people in charge, exact so in their current formulation misinformation defined as any speech that criticizes I got that they're doing so with that in mind you see the by administration encouraging france macon to arrest the owner and founder of telegram, pobble dura who's now as right now in a french prison um that seems like mean that's the homework of dictatorship.

That sounds to me ah we've wus europe. Europe is now does not have free speech. You know, look what habit that you on mug and your you on mosh should be the hero of the democratic party, the old democratic party, who ouldn't be the hero.

Somehow he became a villain because he was actually the only, the only platform that what allows for his picture on his platform. And he's now become a violin because of the, because the democratic party doesn't believe in the people. If you don't, if you.

If if you don't believe free speech IT means because you don't trust the people you don't trust them to, they figured out on their own you to to to have information on which they can base their ideas and their notions, their belief and their votes and their votes, and that the government has to a has to protect them from dangerous information. Some things that might put bad ideas and to there has, and it's very patronizing, but it's also very manipulative and conniving and really exactly the opposite of democracy. And you will not find a single democrat, well, who will criticize IT.

It's really astonishing to me, because the democrats are like, you know, when I endor trump the big, you know, the big kind of the the folk gram of the century es of the tax of hatred that I got back, this seething anger and so many democrats was was looking at on january sex. Okay, january sex was a bad in american history. And what president trumped there, in my view, was was, was very bad. IT was reprehensible.

But I was that, was the republic really at risk? Wouldn't you know? We have the U.

S. Military with the national guard. You have, know, they have all the institution. We have a congress. We have all these institutions of government.

And I, and there was a more, but people, most of him who probably didn't know what was happening, some of them were very badly intention. We're breaking the law. But IT wasn't a threat of the republic.

What he is a threat. And this is why I, you cannot going into a democrat now. And it's sist honey shing, to me, what is threat is when the government is censoring your speech, a little cost speed. And you know, I just won tucker last week.

but that was the centerpiece of democratic ideology. Was free speech exactly?

I mean, the word liberal means free speech. That's where IT comes from.

Oh, is that must be weird for you being named robbert f. Kennedy junior and spending your entire life in this world .

like what what is like? Let me do that as I want a lawsuit. I want A A new judgment and my lawsuit Kennedy verses by last week.

And in canada, vertit fied is part of two laws whose that we're brought, one by the eternity generals of a misery and lousianner, and the other by me for the same mission, which was the bide administration censorship species. So there is a series of decisions. There is one hundred and fifty five behaves decision.

The eternity general case went up to that the supreme card, and was rejected because they are spring court found that those attorney tals didn't have standing to. So because I went directly harm my case this week, the federal judges said Kennedy does not any so and he reinforce reed, reissued his injunction against the administration. H, I have an an injunction right now against the band.

White house does enjoy them from sensorily mate, which they're been doing. The the hundred and fifty five behavior decision by judge show details everything that happened thirty seven hours after he took the youth of office president find's White house open up portal for the FBI to begin to have access to social media, post on all the different social media sites. And the heavy I then invited in the CIA D H S, the I R S and sia.

Sia is this new agency that is the center of the censorship and social complex that is in charge of making sure americans don't hear, thinks that their government doesn't want them to hear. And those agencies and other agencies, including the health agencies like cdc, we're given acts as to go into the social media sites and change pose and school walk things and and shadow ban post that. I was part of that effort and they removed my instagram account.

I had almost a million followers. They say he was for his information, but they could not point to a single post that I ever made. I was actually ironies.

And they actually, facebook pushed back in the email chain. You can see facebook pushing back at the White house and saying, wait a minute, he's not this is a misinformation. This, this is not actually wrong, is what they're saying is actually true.

And they had to invent a new word, which is called mal information, which is information that is factory true, but nevertheless inconvenient for the government. And that became disinformation, disinformation and malindy mac, that's what that is. So everybody, and isn't .

that the .

and and the emails show that facebook, the people said this, they were saying about the White house in their private mails with each other. These people are signal, you know, terrible people, and they knew what they were doing, what is breaking all. But they are under tremendous pressure on the facebook.

All these deals with the government, and, you know, as do all the media companies with the intelligence agencies and elsewhere. Last they were, the White house was overtly telling them that they were going to, if they didn't comply, that had their section to his third community was in jeopardy. A section to thirty.

Unity know is just so that your listener's know what IT is. I used to write for the new york times regularly. Every time I wrote lawyer, an article, lawyers would call me, in fact, check everything in that article.

Because if I wrote something that was the fabrication and that article and somebody was defame, that person could sume. But they had also, new york times, all the social media sites that we cannot hire lawyers to look at every post and call the people on check on IT when, you know, on facebook or instagram. So if this industry is GTA function, we need to be able to not be liable for what is published on our side.

And that is called section to thirty, the communications at a congress at, if you are just a platform, mr. Platform that for other people to publish like facebook is like instant RAM, like twitter or eggs that you, your immune, nobody can see you. They can do the person or of the pose.

They can do facebook. Oh, for mark OK said, if they take away our facebook, our section to thirty community IT is existent. Al inning, we will no longer exist and so they were terrified because congress that was actually considering removing section to thirty community, and the White house was telling them, if if you don't sense there are political critics, we're going to take away your section thirty to thirty many. If president trump did that, the democrats would go preserve gu.

That's criminal behavior. And does that .

is a criminal right? Violating the first amendment, the constitution? First starters 一样。 And so that that's what happened. And you know, my my idea is that if somebody does something bad, didn't matter whether democratic publican, we should IT all be going after, and we should be going after, is this society?

How much is the cost to you to use the internet? What's free? right? Google, free. Facebook is free. Instagram, totally free. That's what you've been convinced up, but it's a trick none of IT is free fact you're paying with your data. Everything you do online can be seen and sold not just the companies but to governments, including foreign governments, and often is. So how do you we claim your online privacy is important, whether is one way is called encryption.

Strong encryption protects your right to privacy online, defends you from your many potential enemies online, including your own government, and IT gives you back the freedom to read what you want to write what you want without prying eyes, spying on you. So how do you get this freedom through encryption or tell how we do IT express V P N express VPN reroutes one hundred percent of our online activity to secure encrypted servers? Normally, if we didn't use IT internet providers to be able to read and see everything that we do online in the united states, they could even sell IT, as we said.

But because we use express V P N, they can't see any of IT, zero percent approximately. We also use that when we traveled abroad, because that same encysted shuts out hackers. And I try to steal what we're doing, things like passwords or credit card details over sketchy wifi, free wifi that's not free either.

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But I don't understand, and IT is baffling to me, having known a lot of democrats, but you been in that world or whole life, like how do they not see that? How do people who say they believe in civil liberties suddenly think it's okay for the government to prosecute its political opponents and silence them? How do they think that?

You know, to me, it's A A I i've thought a lot about that, I bet. And it's about, it's about tribal ism that people put themselves in travel categories and and we are hardwired for travelling ism. That's why who works at this are so popular that, you know, people get sucked in the various kind of voice, oxy, whether the logical voice and oxyde or religious vows in.

And and that impulse is really is not a religious in males. It's a biological impulse, and it's an impulse as hardwired and as the twenty thousand generations we spent wandering the africans, evan and tiny little groups that were wearing each other with, there was always a male leader, or at where, you know, the women were traded as chatters because he couldn't marry her sister. And so there you knew from the beginning, SHE was going to be a trade good, and you were going to trade to her for somebody else.

SHE wasn't, had no power and and where you all had to describe to an earth oxide to see no problems with people who were within your your own group and people who are outside were soppy humor and they could be killed. And if they made a mistake, you know, you wanted to talk about, everybody would talk about IT. We're all hard to wire that way because that's where aren't comes from.

And when somebody can subsumed in an earth at oxy, it's very, very difficult to unraveling. And there are all kinds of psychiatric critical about how do you deep program somebody, you know, how do you, uh, how do you talk somebody out of an order, I say, and you know, it's a little that I know about IT, is that if you chAllenge them directly, you chAllenge IT, IT, IT ports. Concrete on IT and IT makes them less able to move off, that they they get very defensive and that know the way to approach them.

There are other ways to approach them. There's deep programing protocols and they usually include a lot of method of asking them questions about their belief. But it's one on one is IT one on one project. And it's not something that you can do with the whole democratic party overnight. Something has to happen that's going to make this this this tribal thinking on well, because it's really destroying our country.

And the polar is issue is happening on both sides, is is put on steroids by these social media algorithms that on the reward people for d staying on the side as long as possible ble of the algorithm, all the algorithm knows is i've got to keep us the as many eyeballs on the site is possible IT turns out why that the way people staying on this site is, if you have fortify their existing opinion, if you see them, if you see them, information that consolidates their world view. yes. And so, you know, we have this problem is not just polzer like the civil war, but is polarization on stairs? Ids, because you got me genes that are, that are manipulating us to hate each other more.

every single. So knowing all this is you do and have for a long time, the most radical step you can make if you're a democrat is endorsing Donald trump. So there are political calico. Lations involve their ideological calculations, but they're also, of course, personal calculations. How do you know once you do that, you've burned your boats like that's IT you're not going back to where if you were ten years ago, how hard the decision was that for you?

Personal IT was a very good IT was an obvious decision for me. IT should have been. But IT was a very, very difficult decision. And we had know what, I have a very, very good team around me. And I was most worried about my wife, who was about general, you know h um you know I was not comfortable with SHE is a you h uh lifelong democrats SHE comes from not the aristocracy. SHE comes from of every know a poor family and in with lord a but he found her way through through idealism to the democrat party. And that and SHE shares a lot of those years of and Harry industry very, very much aligned with the democratic party, probably more than any industry in our country and more than any town in our country of this um for me was likely to have huge impacts on her and ultimately, if he had told me you can not do this I wouldn't done IT so i'm but I am very grateful as SHE overcame that SHE allowed mates to do what he was not embracing IT but he said, I understand why you have to do this and her and we had A A four day meeting and up at high end of support in my home, kind of everybody, my family members, my many other people, tty Robins attended remotely in a number of other kind of spiritual leaders, just people who care deeply about country, timed and and and made case on both sides.

People from the organic campaign organization that here with the calculus and ultimately what is persuade him for me um my if I all of our internal power shot from the outset and if I was saying in the democratic party I was going to get president vice president Harris elected fifty seven in a sixty percent and even more so sometimes up to sixty six percent of my voters my followers said that if I was through from the election that we're going to vote for trump which is ironic by the way, talk her because president trump and the orient c. Did nothing to prevent me from being on the ballot. They didn't have a big major organization sand private, private eyes out. You know, I had the democratic party was interviewing, literally everybody have ever met in seventy years to collect or not me I I got a call you've been doing .

that I know for a fact for over a year, as you know.

Yeah and they had they were open about IT. That's what we're going to do. They put a person in charge and named, list me who is you know, the kind of SHE SHE is is what he he does not to research on people on trying the .

character spitzer or girlfriend .

and SHE was in charge that team and then the other people as well, mary beth ky. Hill and my uncle teddy shift, have I know unless miss was in charge of the, you know, the negative research as they call negative research, you have basically, and I got calls from, for example, a guy that I met at an A A meeting forty years ago, and he received a call of most of my family members, receive calls, contact their tax or a telephone calls from people said, i'm doing intelligence from the dnc and you know, we'd like to talk you about Robert knee and if you have any negative information about him so, oh, I was getting that. You know.

what could possible the justification for that?

Well, they didn't want me running and that's the thing is it's not democratic. IT wasn't you know.

it's such a matthee .

attacker yeah yeah. So I mean, but the point is IT was weird and I was not smart because I was actually helping the democrats. And if they just want me stay in and on this camp and IT against me, they probably would win this election.

And because I was hurting trump, are they trumpton do anything about IT? He, you know, he was kind of, he made a couple statements about me that I was a communist ZARA. They were a sort of good nature.

You know, the stuff you're like, okay, that's okay. They weren't like calling my old girlfriends saying and out, you know, what did he do or you know, whatever they were asking him. H, but the dnc was up to that.

And and would you shocked by them? Was I shock? I don't know.

I mean, I was I I feel like i'm i'm in a place now and nothing surprises. I think you are. But I don't know. I mean, anyway, so you're onna drop all that stuff now.

obviously right?

What get other project? I don't know. Wonder how Smith little .

I mean, that's so pulsifer. How do you just that to self? I have I to and I matter, she's not stupid, but that is discussing, no, that I mean, you've lived a life famously, and if you have a team of researchers digging .

into IT and I have not let IT careful life, by the way. Now I you know my first, my first, i'm during my announcement speech I said, no, I had told my wife that told, show this couple days of what I said, I have so many Collins my closet, that if they could vote, I could run for king.

The world I know, I know stuff gonna come out about, maybe because I let let me put in a colorful life, yeah and and you know, people who have all kinds of stories about me. But so I was, i'm ready for, oh, i'm ready for. I I list.

I never done anything criminal in terms of like this. This is stealing money or sofa rangement. I did a lot of stupid stuff and a lot of.

have you gotten rich off pointless foreigners?

Now I have not done that. Well.

you have an, okay, you haven't enforced people to inject .

substance .

in their bodies. Okay.

i'm not never do that, but anyway so IT became clear to make that if if camera got elected the issues that I cared about, which is ending the foreigners, you know the unjust wars I in oral wars, the wars of choice like ukraine um stopping the censorship which I think is extensive for our democracy, and then protecting children from this the ordinary exploding chronic disease, economic those and three three reasons are come into the campaign.

That's why iran for present those three reasons. And if you got unexpected, i'm seventy years old that eight years and now our kids are gonna lost and and if she's present for eight years, my chance to do anything about IT would be gone. yes.

And and and I got a contact from calling means. So you know, if you made one of the shows ever put on T. V, every air was your interview with gale in his life.

K, Y, galley, for those of you haven't seen this, a his a is a, is an expert and genius, brilliant, articular, eloquent. And increase the cycle, pete, knowledge on the food system and what is corrupting and what is causing the corruption after a at U. S D. A, that the the capture of those agencies by the processing industry, by the chemical and story, by pharma dal industry that actually profit on the sick children.

One of the things like gale says, there is nothing more profitable in our society today in that a sick child, because in all of these entities are making money on the insurance companies, hospitals, the medical cartel, the farms, social companies of lifetime and know what is and any child and are earlier, that kid is sick, and I don't want to kill him. What I am to sick for the rest of their lives, and what you have now, a whole generation went, my uncles, six percent of american technical ic disease that had a sixty percent when my uncle is president. Do you know what? He, they are cause any or cause of trading and disease, as in this country.

Zero, there weren't even any drugs invented for IT. zero. Today it's about four point .

three trillion into sexy the .

offices and rate. There's about the four five studies and the the the highest rates about one in twenty five one and fifteen hundred one and twenty five hundred, one and ten thousand. So the ad, you know, IT was somewhere between one and fifty hundred and one and ten thousand.

Today it's one in every thirty four kids according to the C D. C. And in some states like california, I think maybe you new jersey, one twenty two, one in twenty two kids and you know, these kids should be healthy.

These kids shouldn't be our highly performing kids and instead are you know have this extraordinary disability that is gona keep them dependent and not know a lot of these with your full blown out, you know, is an unversed non toilet trained headbanging steam in to walking. These are kids that will never throw baseball. I'll never graduate high school.

We'll never go out take a grow on a date. They'll never uses a toilet alone. I'm they'll never write a play, you'll never write a poem, so never vote. Children ever pay taxes.

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So that just seems like such an emerge for .

me that like if I could save one of these kids, I would be worth giving my life for IT. I'm seventy years old to save one kid at birth IT would be worth dying for and to the opportunity. And and you need for me to save all of these kids. I would do anything for. I would literally do anything for.

We are taking in breakfast. I'm perceptions different because we're talking about you. But you know, for fifteen years, anyway, there was not a single story about you that didn't dismiss you as a dangerous crackpot for questioning why autism is more common than at once was much bar mean expensive, more common. And you've written a lot about this and you were attack. I don't see those attacks very much.

I know there's still in the main street media that still part of the, you know the literary of of of my crimes. You know anybody use there any and and that's one of the reasons they won. Let me speak on media.

I mean, when romanov ran, he he was was running for ten months. He was on main street meeting at thirty four, two times interviews. And you remember me was on, I seen like who's on Larry king every way course.

But and I got in sixteen months I had two of interviews, all of those netware, A, B, C, N, C, B, and and I am at A B, C, too. And I, and the, and, you know, they're just basically now, because now for the dnc. And there was this ligature litta of definitions and prejitice that were used to describe me. Anytime I mention my name is mentioned, you know that i'm not at a greg py and you know like a super villain and i'm not complaining because that's that's just, you know I I knew what I was getting into but anyway, the idea that, you know I had these meetings with president rup and they were hardly because of you you the one cali means call me about i'd say three hours after a president trump h shot cali means called although IT doesn't seem possible because but I think IT was only three .

hours after .

his shooting and saturday ah that and callie is said to me you know he told me callie been advising me for a long time and my campaign he told me that night i've also been i've been advising president trump which delighted me because I thought, oh my gosh, there's another candidate besides me that is is listening to the truth and um he said that um that there was interest in the trump campaign by the present of of including me and IT he would talk about vice present which I was an interesting and but he said you know would you be interested in talking with the trump with president trump and I said.

I don't think so and then and part of this is because I just IT was an started with Sherry and I called share up and he said to me usually he earned amount and I immediately called gale I text IT gale back instead, i'm interested and then I got a text from you, well, you and I have each other cell phones, and you had an unknown cell phone number, which you had linked me into, which was present truth number. And you said, you know, he's ready for your call and so I call him and I I had a great conversation with them and and he and he has what we decided to talk. And I met in the next day he was at that point at a bed minister, which is is golf, of course, at home in new jery, and had he driven there from butter, where he'd been shot, and then I went to, and so I flew out to many, many, applies the next.

And I had a probably two hour meeting with him. And ma is my daughter and law who is running my campaign as much as first i've ever met and shallow. And so the wise and IT was really interesting me because he was so open about i'm about, first of all, all not liking the new cars yeah.

And you know, I never imagined that because I know for me who is the guy who brought john bowman like pot behaves in our office and, you know but he was a IT really disillusion with them to say waste, you know and then you know he he was deeply interest and well informed as yeah is on any you know as as much as he is on any subject um about what's was happening to our kids granic disease and then he was absolutely adamant about stopping the censorship and and making sure that we had freeze ech and so we talked a little then and didn't really come and you know talk to about the possibility of working together after the ad and then then we we put IT on hole they want to me to do something at the convention said now I am not gna do that and and we still at that point that was a still a chance that I could get into the debate that chance was diminishing and because I was not allowed on any media and because um and that you know my really my only chance of winning the election I believe I won't wanted find one minute of eight stage but my only chance was on the debate stage and that was that was that uh possibility would be vanishing and so I was looking at kind of my options I then contacted Harris's campaign because I thought I should talk to them and see if their interests in any of these actions. Which I suspect they were not because a camera and who is still on an empty know on an empty slide. Excuse me, was empty slight so announced .

both ways yourself .

so it's okay yes you know I I want I want to respect people and give yes you know um so I reached out to her and I reached out to one number of people, including some relatives of mine are very, very close personally under the democratic party and they just said that's an is no way in the world that she's can talk you and they said and we can get a level campaign official and I said, i'm okay. Not interested in why .

wouldn't it's it's interesting. Why wouldn't come on. He's me with you.

Maybe the same reason that he hasn't given an interview. And I think IT seems to me that there is a lot of handlers involved and that and you know even when you talk to democrats about, you know, do you really think it's a good idea to be electing somebody who can argue an interview? This I will.

You're not electing or you're electing the people around her. You're electing the apparatus and the apparent attis. But the appraise apparatus S. I don't have any faith.

And that is apparatus s running that near's like, you know, like and people in and and who are, you know, running as right up into thray. And there are people who you know, who master mind the censorship from inside the White house as the apparatus that they want to react to me. That's an apparatus.

us. And I know these are people are answering me. There is the people who tried IT thrown me out of the party who cancelled the primary.

That's the apparatus. You know, if he was a democrat who was that, I can think of my own. I understand what this country supposed to look like. I understand what what democracy supposed to look like. And and I think that's a great, great.

Let's do that. But it's just is strange from her perspective, festival electing naper ais, not how democracy works, sets in all guarani just in point effect. But as a political calculation, your presence in the race run third party hurt trump. No one disputes that. The polling really clear on that. So if you're the Harris campaign kind of a win, right, to get some alignment with you, why even human curiosity, you'd think would compel her to want to meet with you, like take a meeting, like why do you care but you even talk to you? I think that I think it's very weird.

It's weird, but not I mean, I can dress not not being able to give an interview. I mean your your whole life is in public life. That's what you do.

That is the community I give I I give you know, this day is a really holiday because i'm doing one interview with you. Typical day. I do about seven or eight interviews about his twenty twelve, and I do that every day.

And after sixteen months, I if anybody once see, I mean, we have I got list out with thousand people on an interview me, but where i'm interviewing as many people as possible. So I wanted get my voice out, my vision out, my concerns out. And I is incomprehensible to me that you would be in public, wife and and present. Trump does the same thing.

He's not scared of an interview. No.

he likes to see of on, yeah, he's on you. He's on. He does anybody. He does people who would not agree with them. He's not. He's not the sense trying you no, he's doing you know he's talking to reporters who right gravy articles about them all the time you know .

from from .

new york magazine gi everyman of the york times. Oran, yeah what so, you know, it's unit. You know, my uncle tedy, who was exactly opposite of aragon.

O logically, and he ran against Carter. yeah. Dad, he did. And Carter, and he had an antipathy toward each other that was almost in like nothing I ever said. Teddy, really? Teddy hate people, but he really, I would say, those garden, he just, he had complete this inform, and I and he light rain.

And because I was more ideologically online at that point, I was, I D say, you know, why do you like regan? And he said, because even though I don't agree with anything, he said he was able to invigorate our country, he was able to inspire people. He got people excited about his vision and proud to be americans.

And that is, one of the functions of a president, is to explain to us why we should be proud of each other and why we've part of a community and why our country is great. And you know what our futures gonna like and get us, and you inspired e all of us with advising, and and that is what a real leader does. How in the world can you do that? If you cannot give an interview, do IT do a news work to a friendly news, er, to a friendly news.

I can even do that up in a few and forty days. I saw the only interviews he did that was unscripted. And when you got off the plane, I think he was an Andrews air force space and and some there was reporter waiting there that you one question, when you going to do an interview, he said, i've told my team that to try to get one done of force september, this was a third of August and i'm doing i'm doing, you know, seven or eight, ten years a day tell .

you and .

I and i'm not blowing my and i'm just saying that's what you do if you're in public life. And what's the point of being in public life if you don't want to promote your vision? People.

I mean, i'm sure this is a sense of service, but I can help but notice that you ran for fifteen months with no service protection. All you were denied that by the, by the minister trump, during the convention of a Walker last month, noted that in public, they immediately under pressure responding, gave you secret service. yes.

Now they've withdrawing IT. You're without IT again. yeah.

Is that true? yes. Meanwhile, tony fought has IT.

He's not a federal employ anymore. I think mike pm. Pale has secret protection from A C I. Director but you don't how how is that?

Uh, I think you know i'm technically is still running for present, running for president and thirty days before he said, oh, um i'm not you know I did I did not terminate my my campaign. Did you know that? No, I don't know.

Yeah so you know what i'm running and the I ten states where heart present trump and their battle ground states, i've taken my name of the in those ten states, but in the blue states, all blue states, all red states i'm on about and I could technically went a continuity of action of the other two vote, the other two, two hundred and sixty nine of peace. And and, and then congress cannot work out a compromise, which is entirely possible. They have to go to the third vote getter, which would be me.

And that's why I left my name on the ballot in those states. And so I, you know that's highly unlikely that happened. But IT has happened twice before in american history, and actually in our polling now shows them at exactly two sixty nine and two sixty nine.

Oh, IT is possible that that would happen in this. So, so, so, and know, we worked this out with the trump campaign. They only want often inten states that's actually hurt him. And the other says, people can vote for me. I'm and they're not gonna urt their candidate.

They have they can vote for me even if like present vice, present Harris and without a hurting hurt and they can vote for me if i'd like present drum without hurting him. And because we already know it's going to happen in those states. yes. I so all the .

more reason that you should have what tony fouche has and what my pump ale has been a lot of other, by the way, non current federal police have, which is government body guards, but they threw them immediately from you. So what's the message of that?

The message, I think, is a bad message, which is that are our federal enforcement agencies have an weapon ze against the american people? I mean, again, politically, web IT eyes politically, not again, see american people up, but are politically. When my father took office in the justice for her man and my father was appointed the U.

S R N thousand nine sixty one by alcohol, his brother and my father the first weekend office, and he had run my Youngest campaign. So he's a political guy. He called together all the division chairs, all the breast chiefs in the D.

O, G. And he made into big governess office. And he said to them, we're going to make one role here, which is there is no politics. We never ask whether a potential defended is democratic, republican.

The people of this country have to know that their enforcement institution is the department of juice is, are, are, are the justice is mind here that we are, uh, free of any kind of political prejudice or bias or bias or favoritism. And they started putting in a prosecuted my alcohol on my mother's side for any trust violent. He prosecuted friends of his friends of his father, and his father did not want of the prosecute.

And they just said, IT doesn't matter. We ve got to have got to apply IT even hand. And because the american people need to understand that their institutions are, are, aren't free, we need to respect them and know that they're not bias in one way.

And we're losing that now in our country. And they buy administration has really accelerated at the most. The most shocking thing to me and democrats can have been hear, there's story because IT touches so many sort cultural word buttons.

But it's it's a true story people, we need to understand that and appreciate twenty twenty election when there one hundred laptop a week before the and we only know this this whole recently because a release of documents, but the one president behinds the order to buy pints life have sudenly became an issue about a week before the debate. And Anthony e. Blanken, who was now the sector, he said, and who was then the director of president biden's campaign, went to gina houseful, who is the head of this director. This I A, and said, we need help with this SHE then got fifty one CIA current and former CIA officers design a public letter, which they publish, I think, in the new york times.

But they published somewhere that that said, that hundred bites I have top was a russian hoax that was part of a russian dissent, this information and effort to tamper with the ah with the presentiment action campaign oh you had a the C I A which is for been by a charter from involving itself in any american politics and you had fifty one top officers, former and current who now do with this information camion against the american public to tamper with election well, while accusing the russians of tempering ing with the election and then a week later. President biden, when he is asked about his with the laptop on the debate, he says that has been developed by the C I. I.

I think you see, I A officers now was the end of the issue as IT was deponed. All the newspapers picked that up and it's highly likely that, that had an impact on the election. Oh, you know, we that was the on tray of present getting into office.

And again, if you know democrats will hear me save this story, are going to say always just saying that because saying, you know he's republicans, which I like, but that's take say but it's not that. It's just that this was wrong. The big tech company's .

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The C A, I mean, a lot of roads lead back, unfortunately, to our most powerful intelligence and agency. If you were asked, would you run IT? Would you become see a rector?

If you were, I would never get, um yes, I would, but I would never get senate confirmation. As you know, the intelligence agency um are protected by by very, very powerful committees and as senate and in the house that are already to the project and the people who serve on those committees are are are people who uh you know they would not there's a safeguarding that directorship and I would be very， very dangerous for those so I don't think yeah .

in his um know when you're joint appearance on friday, president truman introduced you by saying that he plans to reelected established commission to declassify the remaining documents right uncles murder in thousand nine hundred and sixty three yeah and and I think everyone at this point knows the truth, which is the C I is implicated in that those documents protect a maybe among .

others well whether they do or not, it's all they've not allowed him to be release.

Because what could possible .

be the explore? And sixty years after my uncle, sixty five years, what is sixty two years after his death? And there are none of the people who were implicated in that crime alive now, the last ones have died off than as a year or two.

And so clearly is an to protect the institution. yes. And that's wrong, wrong and wrong. It's wrong.

Know that a paris of presidents low, these these six decades have kept those files classified.

Oh, you and I have. Oh, I was astonished trump h didn't equal as five because he promised .

during the champion .

I was my mom who did that yeah and that and that I talk to for the first time about that this way what you he said that he said that might pump. I begged him to and I don't think i'm doing to that is the same thing to that's but he said might pump column said this would not be extracted to released as you need to not do IT and I want to say I think my .

pm pales criminal. So that's my view. He's threatening me for saying that but I hope you will because it's true um but that that kind tells the whole story right there right that the C I A is why would the C I A be trying to keep these files classified if they had nothing to do with the murder? I don't really .

get that talking about what was the weather zone of federal agency and not just one of them. And then then they get, you know, then they open up the censorship portal. Les, the thirty seven hours after a present by tigers office, where now you of the FBI involved in american politics, and you know which we are, them out in exceeds, you know, because we were outraged, they were even, they were bugging more loose, the king in the black behind party and americans, we're indigent about that.

Why are they think this? I mean, why we we have we gotten to the point we're so Normalized and now were okay with the FBI running a portal to the sensor political speech, our country and then inviting in the C I, A. And size and the irs.

I don't know what they were doing in there. I age and cdc and all these other ages. Dh s which all had a hand in censoring american speech so that was another thing.

And then the use you know what we solve the first time in american is of the of the judiciary are to to um to get rid of candidates you know what they try to do to me they're showing me now and and a dozen states i've had i've been in trials for the three weeks you know I i've spent most of time not campaigning, being a sitting in court um in cases that are trying to get me off the ballot so like, well, I am million people, million american citizens sign petition ans more than any candidate in history everybodies that i'd never do this the I will be in the body well guess we on the baLance states and we did IT by getting a million citizens, the competition, saying that they wanted to vote for me and the democratic party now is suing me at all those states to make sure that those people cannot vote for the person they wanted when I was growing up the democratic party, one of R, F, K. And J, F. K.

What is the party that was fighting for voting rights? IT was fighting to make sure that every american could vote for the candidate of their choice, no matter whether or black or White or when they lived or democrat, republican. Now the party today, every greg party, feel so unconfident about the candidates. So it's putting forward and feels the only wake.

And when the election is by getting rid the opponents and and you either are using the courts against present trump to lock in jail and to embarrassed in humility and disGrace them, or using the courts against me to, uh, just to thrown me off the ballot, even though the voters in our new york aid I had had forty five thousand ballot signatures and thirteen congressional districts I got, I got one hundred and thirty seven thousand and all twenty six congressional this weeks I did twice when anybody wants, and we did IT is like because people wanted to see him and about new yorkers wanted to see me on about IT. Why is IT democratic? A party suing me in rival cases, a whole weekend in in a trial for the ad case for two case, they brother, and another weekend, another trial or another can you to pay for this is causing me ten million hours to defend myself. But on what crowds .

are they showing you? Like you don't. They don't like you see, you don't have ready .

to be in the balder new york, say I was suing me by they. They can chAllenge our signature because we got five times of many signature required. Normally, they were doing that first are taking our signature and they were calling everybody they can get their numbers and they can get there. You know we're contacting everybody is signal and trying to talk out of IT, trying to say to get them to say, now you're hurting democracy and you know you should, you know warn you food when you did to try to get they they never succeeded. They are they are in new york state.

They're suing because they say, I I don't live in new york, say, oh, I have three residents as one is in new york, one isn't my home and message is it's which you know, is part of my family compound that we've answered, you know, hundred years and and then in california, where I live with shells. So I moved with her like california and twenty fourteen or ten years ago, but and I lived in new york all my life. I lived there.

I was ten, my father, and for senate there, and was the senator. I moved there when I was ten. I've only voted in new york. I've always considered myself in new york resident. I ve lived in the same town for forty years in bedford.

I've lived in thirteen different residents in that down at various times and but I always wanted to say there and when I moved out with with shero mi, they in agreement with her that you know when he retired, we come back to new york because I feel like i'm in new york. I didn't want to vote in california because I don't know anything about the politics of the year. I was rather in york.

I know all the politics, all the locations, and so I wanted to vote. I kept an address there. I voted at address.

That's my only place i've ever voted. I, my car is registered there. My driver's essence is there. My law office is there. I pay income tax, almost all my income taxes from the year to say my all licenses there.

I don't have a all licenses in california, and my hunting licenses most so I have all my birds there you know I keep them there and so you know there seeing me say i'm not a real new yorker and I can rive the address out of for and um here's the thing is that I consult with a lawyer when I when we declared independent began getting baLance imaums I can solve the best ballot to access to turning the country paul sy and I said, I got, here's three different residences. Which one do I put on the you have to put the same residents in all fifty states oh, you can choose another residence. You know, you can't.

I can't put california on wednesday night. And masses and others say in new york, have to tell the people otherwise. Have I somebody right? right? So in a couple of states, for example, main where we are right now, and a new hampshire, those they say the only place you can put down as your domain, or is the place where you vote.

And no way, i'm sure I actually had taken oath in front of a notary that I voted in new york, because otherwise I think I couldn't not put IT down. So I had to put new york in every state because I had to put in a man and new, have a bunch others, because you have to put the place you vote. Anyway, that dancy is showing me.

I'd defer to the public because I really live in california and I got, you know, they got a judge who was not right out of the democratic machine and violated the constitution and every president to say, yeah, they're right. So you know, I lost in the lower court, which is what happened. We're doing that.

We're losing in these lower courts. And then we went in the appeal. There's one hundred percent chance or went in the appeal, but they don't care because it's going to take me a while. And I got the headlines saying he was thrown off fraud.

So these I mean I I saw come on here just the other night um at her convention speech talk .

about how voting access is like I know while he was doing that I was in court in new york, you know trying to get on the ballot SHE tired luis .

voting access act we're going to get through. Everybody is the right .

to vote ah it's not about .

their opponents. So is this IT feels to me like this is a you know obviously a big political story you're endorsing. Trump is a big, big change in your life as a life on democrat, still a democrat. But um IT also feels like, as you said.

the outside i'm an independent outside I right this is an independent when I ran and when I talk with president, you know the thing that we talked about is that know that we were going to do a unity government oh with the independent um i'm not not the kind of endorsement that a lot of people make. Endorsing like like everything.

Link is a team of rivals where we wouldn't be able to continue to differ publicly on issues um but that we would on the issues that we agree on, that we were going to strive ve to get into government together in order to make sure those issues are you know but there are the priority for our country and you know he was really good about that and about you know me being able to continue. And there's some issues there's a lot of issues like the border where we agree and censorship, the wars, the necks forever wars, child, that health happened. Those are the most important issues.

There's other issues that I did and i'm going to disagree on with the trump, but he was happy with that. And that's how our country. So what is this .

realization that you at the outset because this does feel like it's bigger than just this november?

Yeah, I mean, there's been a series of these resignation throughout american history. There's the history books that are written about know the realignment that about five think about five and and and one of those is clearly happening now because you you see on so many issues, you know that you've had an inversion. The democrat party has become the party of the elites.

IT used to be the party, the poor in the working glass. In fact, there is a study that came out just recently that I was so I that showed that seventy percent that the people who voted for by own seventy percent of the wealth in this country, the people voted for trump on thirty percent. And and so I believe that, right?

So you're seeing this realignment happen where the elites in the world walls rate or the big tag, big farma, the big banking houses are all now democratic and at the um and at the working class, middle class and the cops, the firefighters sho Brant out of the team. So you know the spoke I that a great guy, great, great guy really love him ah but he's work. The democratic convention, I mean that republican convention, rather the democratic convention.

So you are seeing this just this bigger, aligned and even on environmental issues. So weird to me because the democrats have becomes consumed in this carbon or orthodox in you. And i've talked about this at the only issue is carbon.

And what that's done is it's forced them to do something that you should never do if your environment, which is to commoditize and quantify everything. So everything is measured by its carbon footprint, how many tons of carbon that produces. And you know you're basically you you're putting everything and that kind of blocks of of being able to quantified and explained its value by by eight and numerical.

And the reason that we protect the environment is just the opposite of that. The reason that we protect the environment is because there is a spiritual connections. There is a, you know, there's a love that we have.

We, you know, I got in the environment because I wanted, you know, that this is connection to the fishes and the birds and wildlife and and the wales, and and that the purple count is my adJusting, and that, you know, I understand that the way, you know, god talks to human beings through manufactures, through each other, through organized religion, through the great profit, or the why is people that the great books of those religions, but nowhere with the kind of detail and texture and Grace and joy, as through creation. And when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine, understand who got is and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings. And that I hope .

that you just said, by the way, is chopped up and put all over every social mea platform in the world. When we destroy nature, we degrade our own ability to experience the .

divine yeah and that that you know it's not about quantifying stuff. That's what the devil does. He quantifies everything, right? And that is, you know what you answer is doing when a number on IT.

And the reason we're preserving these things is not is because we love our children and it's good because we we get nature, enrich es us riches as economically and specially and culturally. Historically, IT connects us to those ten thousand generations of the human beings. They were here before there were laptops.

And I know, and I can access the the most important spiritless at every every all of the organize religions you know that we know of today. The central revelation of every one of those religions always occurred in the wilderness. Ss, you most had to go and to the world to to, to listen to, to hear god's voice and see the burning bush. He had to go.

Well, this amount sign at the comments muhamad had who is a city boy from mecaenas ache or the wilderness mount hara on a campaign p with his kids and rest of the Angel Gabriel in the middle night of the first stances of the service of of the current squeak from an but that had to go into the wilderness to sit under the one wander for years and then to sit under the body ear tray to get his first revelation of nevada and Chris had to spend forty days in the wilderness. They discovered his, the entity for the first time, and he has meant to, what was john the bad is who lived in a cave in the Jordan valley and a honey of wild bees and vocs. And, you know, and then all of crimes, parables come from nature.

I am the venue at the branes. The musters see the little swallows, the scattering, the seeds on the fellow ground, because that is where we sent to the divine. God talks to us through the fishes, the birds, the leaves.

They're all in a words from our creator. And that is why we preserve nature, as it's not because of the you know it's not because the you know the quantive of carbon. And by the way.

I feel what you said so deeply, I can hardly leaving express, and thank you for saying that.

And by the way, we the best thing that you can do for climate is to is to restore so the soil, other solution, everything, the soil will absorb all that command if you know if and IT was of the water, it'll stop the flooding. You will give us healthy food. And that's what our national policy has to be. IT has to be returning oil.

And that is, you know, everybody listen, if you talk, if you want to unite in amErica and talk about these things, talk about that fiction is the bird in the wildlife, and just talk about an ending mountain top remote mining, talk about ending the mount and cutting, talk about getting really, you know, the democrats are punning these, these offshore wind forms. They are exterminating the whales. I know most of us got into this because of the whales, and they're about to extinguish the right whales, the last ones on earth, because with these modest ties that that are cost has three times amount.

We don't need them. They cost thirty three cents a kilo hour when you can get onshore in for ten cents a kilo hour. And who's making the money? Goldman sex? Blackrock, foreign governments.

And the other thing that they're fun in hundreds, billions of dollars, this is what there, this is what climate is turned into. These climate capture pipelines and are breaking habit with the agricultural land across amid. We're stealing people's perhaps rights with you know and and and who is making the money, blackrock.

And it's a useless technology that does not work. It's just all a moon that I go. And that's what's become the environmental movement in this country.

And if you depart from that orthodoxy expelled from IT, if you, if you want to make americans fight each other, talk about carbon. If you want to bring americans together, talk about habits, have protection. Yeah, not sure. And that is a little weird for.

I mean, you literally spend your life with river keepers as an environment and envionmental lawyer in the environmental movement. I think that's your life work product. Or have you been expelled from the movement?

Uh, pretty much. Ah you know the weird thing is I think of you as a radical environmentals. Why definite? Yeah i've showed .

inside in ten years yeah I feel .

it's so strongly good so know you love nature. You're against big projects that are aren't destroying IT. And you know you you talk about toxic and the area environment moment no longer talk about toxic setting more.

They don't care about IT. I don't care that we're math reasoning our children. It's so weird to me and a and you know I saw you up for for forty years i've been fighting to get against Andrew and disruptors on android.

This after this are classes of chemicals that change they they alter us form on, and a change are are I can change sexual, can I can change, uh, sexual development. They can affect fertility. And we've already lost fifty person of artist firm count.

You know, we are having girls in this country that aren't cheaping humanity on an average between ten and thirteen years old that six years less Young. good. And they were no eighty years ago.

We, we, we have the lowest puberty level on any content ent in the world here because we're just on baring our children with the underground disruptors and at and their chemicals like pcbs, alexa n eighty five and all to adin, which can turn mail but frogs into females and produce feral eggs. That's how pot they are as an enrichment disruptor. And it's in sixty three percent of our water supply, pcbs, which i've been fighting since the day I became an environmental lawyer and getting matter of the hand.

So, but and and for forty years i've been trying to get republicans to talk about IT. I talk generals all the time of who would let me occasionally on the fox knows to talk about IT. But they were so much still on the republican party because that would just like you're attacking corporate profit tacking and that these are chemicals.

They are there molecules who cares not they can urge you. And there was just and then you do this incredible show on entrepreneurship rupture. And i'm like tucker calls and had just on the best show that's ever meant done, showing you know what's happening with enterprise disruptors, how they're just destroying us and the democrats when after you and the environmental of men.

And I like what you know, this is what a woman trying to get for forty years of republicans to care about these issues. And they said all he's saying that chemicals turned people gay and he's any gay and all this have and that wasn't what you said at all and that's not what anybody said. What what were saying is we're destroying children and god your .

description of why we protect nature and its role in our lives and what happens when you're cut off from nature and the animals being part of nature is the best i've ever heard ever. That that what I mean IT. And when that.

And when IT becomes a matter of quantifying things for profit than that kind of crops, the whole enterprise. So where do you my last question, what happens now you have this kind of amazing announcement with on trump on friday. It's now monday. I think we just three days ago, what how do you spend from here to election day?

I'm going to work to him acting and and you know i'm working with the campaign and we're working on policy issues together. Um I will i've been asked to don't enter the transition team and you know to help pick the people who will be running the government and I am looking forward to that and I am at a fight. I don't know what would happen to me if we lose.

Well, that's that was that's kind of I mean, a lot of people I know personally and friends with, or a prison, one of in prison right now, public giraffe, there are others are like, what happens if he loses to you.

if made, if trump's sis and .

common haris becomes H.

I don't know. I I listen, I know, I know I never really think about that and I think is what I think is okay, here's what I got to do today and you know get up every day is reporting for duties are and then go to that and nothing's a crisis. Everything's a task, right? And and so that's what i'm going kind of a happy worry, aren't you know I know what I have to do is i'm going to .

do IT Robert f. Kennedy or thank you. That was really if that was .

a Better appreciate. Thank you.

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