Q&A Session with Jordan Peterson
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How about a huge jl Alberta? Welcome for the one and only tucker carson.

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Is not a free country, is a very scary place. And that's exactly what canada has become under gesture. And the second you decide to tell the truth about something, you were filled with this. I like a supernatural, but you were filled with this power from somewhere else. Try and tell the truth about something that you feel that every day, the more you tell the truth, the stronger you become.

Thank you. Oh, this is. Thank you. I'm really. I think that's my friend kid rock in the background.

Thank you truly for having me, but that was the wildest entry I ve had ever. Someone just gave me this t shirt, which I just love so much. I'm actually gona wear IT in the privacy of my own home.

L freakin berta baby. what? What a great province this is. What a great country this is. In fact, I ve just been told that I never actually never said this to anyone, including my wife.

But I know that in canada is official policy that coming out of the closet is good unless you are the prime minister. But so i'm going to i'm going to reveal something about myself that I never revealed, which is that I am part canadian. And yes, I am.

I actually am part canadian. And I was thinking this morning I was like, you know, I always say i'm the only american, is like legitimately interested in canada. And I am, and I always have been.

And I wonder, why am I so obsessed with canada? And I thought, because i'm part canadian. My great grandfather, actually my father's family, was in the colonies, and then they brought democracy and they're like, we're out.

We're going to know scotia. And so they spent a couple hundred years there. The refuses.

They're still there, by the way, I think there are liberals. But and then my grand grandfathers, I got going to try that again. So he comes to the nine states, and i'm here as a result.

And so I feel IT in in me is canadian. And i've been all over your country and i've been everywhere in your country. And I just think it's a remarkable place.

And I think people don't quite understand what canada is because so much of that has bumped up against our border. And I would argue, no offence, that the least impressive places in canada are red against our border. But once you get past, that is just unbelieved.

I've been in this city a lot because of your mountains, which I just find beyond belief, really, the pretty ous places i've ever been this country, the pretty st. Country i've ever been in, the second biggest country in the world, bigger than in the united states, deeper oil reserves in united states, more natural resources in the united states, and one nine th, the population. And when I hear the lunch s to run your government, like our populations growing, we're so excited.

I'm like, really, you want to live in a crowded country, forty million people in the world's second biggest country. That sounds like the kind of place I want to live. Like, what are you even talking about, you morons? But anyway, so i've come to canada, and every time I come, you so many things strike me, first and foremost, the natural beauty, the unbelievable natural beauty.

Be pretty and switch zong, in my opinion. And the second thing I noticed is the politeness of the people. That's real. And the third thing I notice is that all the comedians left decades ago and IT brings IT out in me and I making fun of canadians.

And I, as i've already told you, and I I hope it's obvious, is done with the love, but I just can't control myself because no one will ever laugh at your joke. And so every time I go to tonto, which I tried not to do, but I do wind up there every time I check in hotel. And like you guys have hot water, like where you go, all the electricity, this is unbelievable.

And they always had the same revenue. We've had electricity for a long time. A like a joke.

You don't really have sled dog parking in front. I know that. No, we even had sled dogs at a long time. A.

And so I just slept i've told so many sled dog and molson jokes, it's just and i'll never stop but one of the reasons I do this because I do think it's important to to laugh at your circumstances, not simply because IT makes you feel Better, though IT does, but IT gives this gives you perspective on them. And humor requires some distance, some critical distance, both from yourself and from your surroundings. And you currently only see things clearly until you have that.

If you have a country where the funny people feel like they have to leave, that's a huge problem, and that's the first problem. The second problem is you can't really be effective as a political move in a resistance movement, which effectively you are if you don't laugh at your enemies because not only are the evil and they are, they're also, they're litter rous. And it's really important to say that because IT cept their power immediately, laughing at something.

If you're a married man, you know that, no, it's true. Your wife could come and hit you in the face of the two by four. And that would be less painful than having her laughter racist ly at you, particularly when you get out of the shower.

That would just end IT for you. That would end IT. Your male power would evaporate like a puddle on a hot day, like you'd be done because IT has that effect. And so to look at your enemies like, let's say, you had some kind of weird prime minister like to dress up and fussy costumes, IT would be super important to point that out a lot, like relentlessly.

Somebody told me last night that his base, I was asked me with this wonderful dinner last night with two of the most famous people in can, and probably two most famous people, lord black and my friend dr. Jordan Peterson, and I asked, I asked, like, is there anyone in the country whose supports this guy? He's showed me.

I know him only. I've never met. I only known him through television. I know was cousin Gavin knew some pretty well, but I don't know him.

Is there anyone who takes him seriously and that everyone, the room, oh yeah yeah. Ah Young people and women taken very seriously. They love him. And I thought there's really only one way to combat that and that's by pointing out what an absurd poser this guy is he's like a ridiculous figure like you should dislike and resist Justin trudeau and his government to the maximum extended your ability. But before you do that, before you do that, you should just laugh at him until you can't breathe seriously.

The guys like he's showing up for a costume party when no one else is there's no costume party and there's Justin trudeau like speaking as some sort of moral voice. We're little cross trusters. So anyway, that's my first piece of advice.

My second piece of advice, once you've done that, which is very effective and I know it's not the canadian way because it's such a polite society that everyone feels morally bound to take everyone else's point of you very seriously and sort of not gravely and pretend to consider their perspective. But there are some perspectives that are aren't, in fact, perspectives that are attacks on you. And that's the main thing that I want to say in the short time, a lot of today is that you should recognize what is happening to you.

This is not a political debate to which you've been invited to participate. This is a destruction of view and your culture and your beliefs and your children and your future as a country. And that's not over statement.

It's provably statistically. So just take three steps back if you have a government that is giving 4 tunal to your children as they are in bc， and notice your premier has a no fant of the kid's policy. Got blessed.

Er I know and you're apply, I mean and i'm applying and i'm grateful. But how distorted is your world where you have to apply the one politicians? So like, you know, we're not going to get feral to the kids today.

Okay, but then take two step further back from that and ask yourself if someone's giving finales to your children, what's kind of the message of that? We are trying to kill your children, obviously final. It's the number one causes death under forty in the nine states, number one in the whole country, followed by suicide.

If you want to know where we are, we're about two years behind you, and it's only because we have a louder media space, then you do that. We aren't ahead of you. But if someone's giving fatal to your children and they are telling you they're trying to kill your children, which are your inheritance, so the only meaningful thing you will ever produce on earth, they are your children.

That's the first thing. Now second, if they are trying to kill you, and by the way, I know, if any, everyone, even this group, because no one to cannot want to talk about anything, it's like a piscopal in Christmas dinner. And I grew up in that world, so I know everyone's hands like three too many.

And then someone will build out, you read my childhood, and then ever will sit there in silence. It's so awesome. But angle canada, like Angelo everywhere, doesn't like to say anything out loud.

But let me just do IT anyway, if you're killing fifty thousand of your citizens of the government is doing that with the mood program and lot of them are not actually terminally. All are just sad. And the government is encouraging them to submit to being killed by the government and then won't release the the recent statistics.

Like what is that? What is that? Yeah, it's genocide. That's exactly what IT is. It's killing large groups of people and who are those people? But we don't know because your government hasn't reached the stat.

What percent of those are born in canada? I'd bet right around one hundred percent. So if you're a government, you have the duty to your citizens.

People were from here. People's ancestors built the place not exclusive to them, but primarily to them, to your citizens. Like what else you exist have to serve your citizens.

And if you're targeting your citizens, how do people who arrived in canada in the last ten years to have opted into the maid program? I don't know the answer. I'd Better zero.

As all people are familiar, another government brags, oh, were saving money because they died. That's the darkest thing I can imagine. I bet there's zero conversation about that in this country because I know this country.

I know what it's like. It's too horrible. No one wants talk about. You should talk about that, but more than anything, you shouldn't. Journalist, the message of that, which is they hate me.

They hate me to the point they are willing to kill me, which they are. And the third thing is noticed the erosion of your most basic of the liberties, not the ones granted to you by the crown, but the one's granted you by god. And those would include the freedom of speech, which is, in alia, ball IT cannot be taken from united.

Ter, who is in ottawa, or as we say, otaka, which, by the way, is the correct principle. According to my friends in the ogibo, a community. I've printed that way every time on television.

They get all is angry, know if you're pronounced y and incorrectly you don't even know the name. As I know, I know all about canada. I'm doing in a purpose to make one of you so you will laugh, but you won't.

And then the digital leader, right? And he goes, all the White wrong. It's actually a taaoa go, a taaoa. Anyway, IT doesn't matter whose in the prime minister's office, your rights remain the same because you were born with them, because you are not a slave, you're a human being and you have inherent dignity because god made you. That's just a fact.

And if they're taking those rights away, peace, bill, and doing so in the name of public safety, even as they make the public fear much more dangerous, which they have. In case you haven't noticed, canada has a lot more violent crime now than I did twenty years ago. Have you noticed? Of course you have.

You live here and we're telling you can't defend yourself against that crime, are going to disarm you. You can protect your life or your family and you're like, go yeah for the public safety. It's just not not a big deal.

These are weapons were no other weapons himself offense, which you need and deserve as a free person, not a slave. And then they're telling you you can't complain about IT. And then they're sub sizing immediate to the point where all of your big media outlets, which are disgusting, our state media, because you're taking state cast, you watch cbc.

I do occasionally I can turn in any hour of the day, and I will learn that I am racist for driving an issue and not being trains. That's the whole schedule of cbc programing. But interpret, that's not woke.

Oh, it's woke. I hate the world. Crap doesn't mean anything.

They hate you. That's what they're saying. They're saying that you are bad. That's exactly what there's don't lie to yourselves. That's what that's what i'm saying. And we are very delusions in the united states because we're so distracted by stuff and electronic devices and the promise of next day delivery from amazon, a brightly called red plastic crap in china, that we tend to be slow to figure out what's going on.

But canada has a different street, which is a cultural one, is an angle specific angle cultural one, which is just like, I don't want deal that that's uncomfortable. But in your heart anyway, even if you voice IT to no one but yourself, no what the message is and the messages, you are bad. I mean, i'm going to see the most contribution thing ever I watched when montreal was cleansed of its angle legacy.

And i'm not answer french just for, just for the record at all. But I am end. And I had friends in montreal.

And in the span of a generation like that's gone, they're forced out. They're like OK. I guess we'll go to ontario. What my grandfather built the city.

Am I going anywhere? How about that? I'd never occur red anyone, because no one could say out loud what was actually happening. This was a series of acts of hostility aimed at you because of things that you didn't choose, like how you were born. And once you will keep allowing that, you have no future.

okay? So if they're limiting your freedom to say what you think, which is the freedom conscience, the most basic of all, freedom, you're freedom to defend yourself in your family against bodily harm, which is got to be a twin to the first one. If you're taking away, you're voting power by changing the population of your country, which they are doing and no one wants talk about that canada has the highest immigration ate in the world per capital and shut racist that's not racist.

I don't care for coming from new zealand. Don't care if you're taking the population stockroom and moving him to canada. If you change the population of the country, you change the country, and you delete the voting power of the people who are vested in that country, the people who are born there, who have lived in a long term, who understand the history and the culture of the country, who bought in and a little, and their vote means much less.

It's math. You guys do that math. That's horrifying. That is happening and there's no public debate over what so ever.

Why do you think that's happening? Is IT for economic reasons? I'd be kind of okay with that if someone could stand up and say we're totally changing the population of canada because we think it's Better for our economy.

Okay, tell me how we can have rational conversations were adults. I'm a citizen. This is my government to tell me how that works. But they can because that's not true.

Look at your housing Prices, look at the strain on your services, look at your health care system, which no canadian I meet briggs about anymore. And one of the main reasons is, is over burden. There are too many people we need population growth.

really. Tell me, tell me why. Tell me why all of these slogans make sense.

I've watch canadian hockey from time to time. They literally say diversity as our strength before they open the the game. Okay, what does that mean and why is that true? Shut up up.

No, i'm not to shut up. You're telling me to accept the slogan, so it's in comment on you to explain what the slogan means and why IT makes sense. That seems like a common sense rule. If you're forcing something down my throat, tell me how IT taste before I swallow IT will shut up. Racist st, not, not, not going to not racist.

I'm not going to ut up answer the freaking question, you weird cross dressing prime minister and the last thing i'll say, and I will stop at this because i'm sure i've gone beyond the time I wait, keep going a matic control, at least canada. The last thing i'll say, which also may be controversial because that sounds like a procul concern or some sort of know we're religious thing or something and it's not but take a look at what they're doing into your Christians and I say this for a couple of rye acron, but that's not why i'm telling you this. I'm telling you this because there's there's kind of no more inoffensive and peaceful group in the world than the Christians factor isn't.

The religion tells them, commands them to turn the other cheek and to put the concerns of others ove their own concerns. So if you have a problem with those precepts, explain that to me. Speak slowly so I can understand.

I think every person, this room, regardless of your faith, can agree. Yeah, i'm for that. I wish I was more like that.

That's good. We need more. Those people in society serve others for the sake of service.

People who pray for their enemies, who does that, who would pray for an enemy? No one except Christians, and they do. They're commended to. So if you're hassling that group, maybe you've got another agenda that we should be concerned about, even if not in that group. If we burn nine of their churches to the ground and the prime minister and as little weird buddies are endorsing ing that burning churches, if you're on the side of burning churches, let me just say I don't need any other facts of the case. You're on the wrong side.

If you're throwing preachers in prison for preaching the Christian an gospel, not for hurting anyone, not for making pipe bombs, not for trying to castrate other people's children, not for importing millions of people into your country, if you're not going to have work just for the crime of preaching the Christian gospel, you go to jail at the same time when they are encouraging your kids to do your drugs and not just special, but weed. Don't raise your hand if you have a fifty year old sun, but come up to me after and tell me what you think of legalize weed for real. And if you have a fifteen year old and you know exactly what i'm talking about, they did that to you into your son on purpose. And so in a country like that, in a world like that, if you think that preaching the gospel is so dangerous that the people who do I need to be in prison, in shackles, you're serving someone other than the people of canada, if you know what I mean.

That's really scary. And I don't care how much they dressed up in the passive self help language of the modern left. Where is really about public safe? Every time I turn your frequent television shows, everything about public safety, which is eufemia for hardage fascism actually.

And Frankly, i'm a little bit more comfortable with the old fashion variety where guys in tight uniforms who step through your tongue, at least you know who you're fighting and you know it's going to take to liberate your tones, get rid of these people and everything will be OK. But when they show up in their therapies with advanced degrees and they look at you in the phase and say they know actually little Dylan just needs more final little dill's actually a girl and we're going to, yes, he's girl. Sorry, she's a girl.

She's a girl, and if you don't agree, well, maybe we may have to remove Dylan to more care firming custody. Oh, you're going to take my kids away because I don't want to cast rate them. They'll never say that, of course, because clear language is their enemy, because clear language exposes who they really are.

They're not people who are trying to help you. There are people who are trying to hurt you. Anyone who goes after your children, anyone who encourages you to have fewer children, is trying to make you extinct.

It's literally that simple. And it's only in the advanced west that we don't see that. Try that crap in bulgaria.

Try that in serbia. How do you think that would fly in serbia? We're gonna give little full dog some final.

And we think, you know, he maybe you didn't even get to the next sense before you got shot because you're trying to kill someone's kids and you're average serb, whatever you think of them, doesn't have generations of therapy talk that acts as a logical intermedia area in his brain and prevents him from seeing what's actually going on here. They're trying to kill my kids on the father. I won't allow IT.

I'll lay my life down to prevent IT. It's literally that simple. So i'll stop with this, the answer, before you take any sort of action or imagine that some election is going to fix things come up, which is not spoiler alert because this country, like every country, every country very much, and may be especially including my country, has a lot of frauds in that business.

Sorry, IT does, I would know. So one thing I know a lot about, before any of that takes place, you need to change inside. Your attitude needs to change, and your timidity needs to be replaced by bravery.

The muddled thinking that you have about this stuff, the average Normal canadian, just like the average Normal american, sees a step pop up on his phone. Aries on x is like, I can't believe with the worlds going to help, but it's scatter shot. There's one here.

There one there? No, it's not scatter shot. It's of a peace.

It's of a piece. They're all connected and it's aimed at you. And if you don't agree, tell me how i'm wrong. But i'm not wrong. I'm right.

And so the first thing that you need to do before changing anything in your country is to change everything about your heart. You have to be ready for a contest where the stakes are existent, al, which they are. And with that, I will stop. Thank you.

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yeah. I had a little chat with Christian before we got started and asked them whether or not I could slip any f bombs. Christian said, no fucking way. So I am going to have to be really careful with how I moderate and manage the language. Now, with very short notice, Jordan and tucker have been told that i'm going to provide them with kind of some cyp tic words, couple of sentences, and they're stuck with two sense answers. Jordan, have you ever been cyp tic?

Yes, there.

That was that the first fucked in time i've ever seen him at the first time i've ever seen him. Cyp tic docker, you can do this.

I used to write to hide cool as a child. So.

yes, alright. Well, let's see where this goes. Let's start with tucker. John kala, two senses .

lovely couple on their way out.

Jordan, Christian, Christian and Justin. And you can think about this one A.

Little narcissistic for my liking.

We got a lot of this. We're going to some funnier Donald trump.

i'll. Speaking senses orange ascendant. No, I would say if you wanted to who trump p is, watched the reaction to trump.

I mean, that's really IT. I think trump p is politically a moderate. And I think that not because i'm totally crazy. I think i'm prety model to to be honest. I don't want radical change, but neither is trump and they're treating him like he's an arc and that says everything about them.

and. Jordan peer, pola va, or polyvore, a you wish will .

tell you a quick story about mr. polio. Couple of senses. I met him at the residents of the opposition, and I met his wife, who I thought was a very solid person.

And one of the concerns they expressed to my wife and I while I was there, I was the expense that they had racked up at the expense of the canadian taxpayer for moving them into store, away into the residence. And I thought two things. I thought. All things considered, you you probably have more important things to prioritize. But the fact that that actually bothers you and that that was genuine and unprompted is a good sign because I don't think that peer poly thinks that your money is his.

Yeah or or or that he knows what to do. Is that more than you do, right?

Tucker, vivid ara swami, he wants to build a wall between canada and the us. Any thoughts on that?

Building a wall between canada, you are the best thing that ever happened in canada, not because the us. Is bad, but because it's too easy for your creative talent and your economic producers to flee when things get bad here.

And there should be a wall around canada and smart canadians, if they stayed in a lot, have state, of course, but you've lost a lot of great people, and I know them because they live in my country and are, and i'm in the creative business. My business is filled with canadians. And now we say, like, why couldn't you do IT in canada? Because its state media, you know, no creativity allowed, only racist training climate, that's IT. And so I think that would be great for canada. I mean.

that will try not to make the world too high. Jordan, the freedom convoy. It's been an interesting wow.

Sit down. We got some conversation to come. It's been an interesting twenty four hours.

So you know that that the trucker convoy was part and also part of the leadership of a much broader movement of working class people all across the western world. You're seeing that more particularly in europe now there some two thousand, two hundred thousand german farmers and assorted protesters out over the last couple of weeks. I used.

You saw very little coverage of that. The same thing is happening in spain. It's happening in france, it's happening in scotland. And part of the reason that this is happening is because working class people, in their implicit wisdom, have decided that they're not the problem that faces the planet, but the solution.

And the truckers knew that, and they served in that function, as even trudeau admitted, not so long prior to his unforgivable traders, and now deeming criminal activities, which should be treated as such. I thought from the beginning, you know, more power to the truckers. I think they handled that.

The demonstration impeached. Ly, the time did brilliantly tly. They left at the right time. They did nothing but good.

And they were treated like russian collaborators and mega scum, and sometimes both at the same time, because that's exactly how demented canada is. So more power to them. And thank god for the wisdom of the federal court.

I I said one thing I I so prevent tly agree with what Jordan just said. And I was measured ized by the whole thing. And I know some of people involved. I do think though there's probably too much emphasis, relatively speaking, on the prime minister and not enough on Christopher freeman, who who I I knew as a journalist working in washing twenty years ago.

He was at the financial times, and the fact that someone like that could send to a position of high authority and in a civilized country like this is such a shocking shut. And I mean that, first of all, it's approved. The meritocrat is fake.

If it's mentally deficient, fascists can have power over you OK. But watching David mencius get arrested recently for trying to ask her a question, I mean, I really feel like people need to be very direct. No, this person has no moral author thorning over me at all. She's not qualified to even speak to me.

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These were extremely long to sentences.

but let's keep heart felt.

No, you guys are the right guys. I mean, never expected you to .

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yeah bullshit. Tucker, january six.

Well, january six was fraught and it's taken me three years to to get the full picture on that. I had that instinct. I'll to say too I mean, there's nothing I can add a january six, which is an enormous ly complex series of events that still to this day is shrouded in secrecy and interception.

And I know a lot about the subject from washington, but I would just say one thing really quick. I watched that happen. I was not in washington.

What happened? I saw on television, one of my children worked in that building, called me and said this was happening. And I instantly knew there was like, I instantly, I had no idea what I was coming from.

Here's all that I would say about IT. If something happens in your country or in your life, and your gut tells you there's something wrong with the explanation, i'm getting trusted. Your gut IT doesn't mean that you understand what actually happened.

I still don't understand what actually happens. IT was a set up. I can say that conclusively. Who did IT hard to note the left to IT, but who? But I knew right away that what they were telling me on nbc news and seen, and all the rest of the liars in my country was false.

I could feel IT, and I never waive red in my belief that they were lying to me. And now we know for effect has been document that they were. So I would my advice to you would be if you feel something as deceptive, you were given these instincts at birth, there's nothing more reliable than your intuition is not trying to sell you anything. It's not trying to hurt you, it's trying to save you. So don't ignore IT.

Thank you. Jordan the world economic forum.

And you got three senses. Well, the first thing I would say is that one of the things i've learned very deeply in the last few years is that it's a very dangerous thing to make the assumption that the world is a limited resource, zero, some game. And then you might say, well, how can IT not be because there is a finite amount of of certain so called resources.

And I would say what the reason IT isn't is because there isn't any desert that we wouldn't be able to make bloom and permanently make infinitely productive if we got our acts together in the matter the talker described. You know, there's i've been reading a new book about the biblical stories. And one of the continual the emphasis in that corpus of stories is continual, and the central messages that if you are in yourself upward and you act with the highest regard for yourself and for other people, there is no limit to the abundance that you can bring forth.

And if you have faith in that you don't have to be concerned about sharing, you know, there's there's not only more than enough for everyone, that more depends on you being as generous as you possibly could be with everyone. And all that would do would be to increase what's available. And the alternatives without is exactly the W.

F. View, which is that, quite Frankly, there's too god. There are many people on the planet, and every time I hear that, I think just exactly what spirit is saying that, and just precisely who they held you think should go, and just exactly how.

So I don't view human beings as a impediment to the beauty and pristine ess of of the mother earth that we've come to worship. You know, I think the notion that we're all creatures made in the image of god with an infinite transient worth is as true as any statement can be. And I think nothing.

And I believe that there is nothing that is beyond our capability on the side of good if we aimed up and told the truth and had sufficient faith and courage. And I don't believe there's anything true than that. And that is not what the W F.

Stands for. They stand for a malthusian zero, some game of scarcely privation and top down centralized control. And with the technology that we have now, I wouldn't recommend that we do that.

May I just answer one question raised by your eloquent and absolutely right analysis in the world economic form. And that is what spirit animates them. Well, if you believe people are the problem, then that is, of course, a genocidal spirit.

If I believe that the problem with my kitchen is that he has too many mice solutions to kill the mice, too many roaches, I kill the roaches. They are the problem. They are the impediment.

And so make no mistake, and this sort of tracks with that I was saying earlier, don't lie yourself about the agenda. If people are the problem and you're a person, then your life is in the way of whatever goals they're seeking to achieve by definition. And I missing something or not, but all of us, it's so grow task because further elaborate, one sense is a demon ic spirit.

Just to be clear, any any spirit that seeks to hurt, kill, divide, demoralize other people is a demand spirit by definition. So that's what I animates IT. You're the target. And don't let yourself .

right for clarity. We've now moved to two paragraph answers, and i'm okay with that. We can work with this little bit history.

Ten, twelve years ago, I bought my way onto a White water rafting trip in chili, run by Robert Kennedy junior. The fact that iran, a coal fired power plant, caused him great concern for most of the week. The name of moneth ritual, Robert f. Kennedy junior.

is the same to me. I think both of us OK, both of us know what I know. I'm a friend of my Kennedy personally.

And I think you whenever politics, politics changes people, the imperatives of running for office change people's priorities. That's true of everyone who runs for office asked anyone who's done IT. And so I can I cannot assess this presents a campaign.

I won't. I i'll just say one thing about him, which is at the height of covert history, he was right, he was right. And he was right at great personal cost.

And I know a lot about this subject because I know a lot about him, and I know i'm not sort of liberty say, but I mean, that guy suffered in a real way. He suffered more than I would suffered, targeted his family like actually his family. And he was absolutely right.

And IT does make you you i've done in a long time, like twenty years. And I remember when he was he went from being like the most famous celebrated guy in democratic politics to being someone whose name could not be mentioned, and happened in one article where he suggested was a connection between vaccines and autism. And I think there are clearly as a connection, and I think there's a ton of science fc evidence that there's a connection.

And you were not allowed to say that in the united states, the land of the free, the home of free speech, you could not say that you could not have a job and say that. And unless something you'll say is whenever there is something that's for boating, you're literally not allowed to say or you'll be punish, ed, that's the thing you probably consider saying because they're not tell you not to say because it's false. They don't care about lying.

They are liars by their nature. They celebrate lives. Men can become women, all right? No, what they hate is the truth. And so if there is an idea or even a phrase that you're literally not allowed to say, pay very close attention to that phrase because at least they think it's true. That's why they wanna you say IT ha.

Okay, did I mention Robert def. Kennedy? Oh yeah, I did. That was your answer. Okay.

I got that. I was quite a complete and false.

The answer? No, no. You went everywhere and you you got your three senses in Jordan. A little bit. An odd one for you, joe rogan.

So here's two ways that you might judge the or of someone. The first is whether they're the same person on stage and in public as they are in private. That's slogan.

Like what you see is what you get. He is exactly how he portrays himself and is i've been around your fair bit and around him and many other people and around him and some very, very smart people. And it's hard to be in a room with joe when he isn't the smartest person in the room.

And so he can play a long cat. But beneath that, like mocho and genuine mocho exterior, there's a very, very sharp mind. And then the other thing that's great about joe is he's really he's got a great comical side. You know, I think he's a professional comedian, but he's a wit and he's extremely playful along with being brave and that combination of playfulness and bravery yeah that's a teston playfulness, bravery and honesty that's rogan. It's not a bloody accident and he's the world's most popular podcasts, you know and thank god he's the real thing and so you know two thugs up for geo rogan.

Right, tucker, we're going to complicate your life.

It's pretty complicated already.

okay? Fox news.

it's american television channel. It's on cable.

Anything else? No, I don't.

Is IT are you like to watch fox in cana? We I never get straight answer. I spent two years.

if you are my seven P. M. Note, that was everything.

Well, there was a rumor at twelve, eleven and six avenue in new york the heading quarters of the channel that we were not on the earth. Canada, no, you know, I spent fourteen and happy years there. I also worked at a number of other television networks for thirty years, and and I will say this about fox.

They never told me what to say. They never called me for saying things that they clearly disagreed with. I think they disagree with a lot of what I said.

And to their great credit, they didn't try in sensor me and my deal with them was simple and very strait forward from the day arrived, which was I don't know in this company, it's your project is your decision to decide what's on the air, who's on the air that includes me. I understand that um my view is i'm going to say exactly what I want and if you don't like IT, you can take me off fear. I'm not going to take instructions.

You hire me to say what I think i'm going to and if you don't like, you just pull me out there. And one day they did. They didn't explain why I didn't really push them that much as I was confused.

But I never contested the right to do that because I believe in private property, you know, you mean. And so I got a lot of fox news. I enjoyed my time there. I'm glad i'm not that business anymore. I spent enough time and i'm pretty happy you know like havin dinner with my wife and meter around on social media is four .

thousand plus people here? Delighted that you're here and if you were still a fox news who fuck and knows.

I will say this. I've never had a TV in my house. We don't have TV and like, so I haven't seen that that much. Me totally hand.

I had a sick relative this fall who sadly passed away, but I would go to the to the hospital to visit her and and I would be on and I was like, shocked. I was like, that's what IT looks like. Don't watch. I don't I just don't care for the medium.

Well, you and x are getting along rather well. Jordan, i'm going to throw occur at you as well. Greta.

Better men than you have tried. IT.

great. A thorburn, that opens up a whole topic I feel.

I feel bad for. Great up. Look, you got to think about this man. Just think how bloody terrifying IT would be if you were a thirteen year year old girl. Mean, that's terrifying enough.

But if you are a thirteen year year old girl who was nervous about the future because of every lie that she'd been fed, and you started to become upset about that and to speak out, and then every bloody leader in the western world count to you as if you were, do you know how destabilizing that would be? How in the world would you ever recover from that? I think that given what she's been through, given the absolute cowardice and of the leaders whose worships at her feet, like she's some sort of sage, that she's remarkably well put together. So that's what I think of Greta thune. K.

thank you. Imagine using someone like greathed berg for political ends. What a cold, evil person. You would have to be an autistic child and she's gone to Carry your message is that, well, it's disgusting. It's abusive a child. And the people who have bet that include the entire western news media ought to be ashamed. Their criminals.

in my view. He tucker him a through change the subject once again, this ones going to be a little more entertaining. Riley gains.

oh, I love rally gains, doesn't well, she's a cool person to. And my favor thing about Riley and a lot of things I love about Riley gains, but my favorite about Riley gains as she's married. Real gans got married in college, which I love, and I would recommend that everybody that is so important to be married, and particularly married Young.

And and i've told her this, I started in the day, and I SHE came to my house in mine. When is this hole? For start, she's a swimmer, university kentucky and a SHE tied some dude, and they gave the dude the trophy because he was a dude. And they're trying to eliminate the gender binary to destroy our civilization. So SHE was just annoyed ed, because, like, they stole that from her and but he was totally, I mean, showed up against the nabc p and nbc news, every power center in american sports.

And I was like, how are you able to do like some college girl? Like how do you have the moral strength that he was married when you're married, IT doesn't matter what happens outside the home, you come home to your teammate and that's where the strength is, is senior family. Those the people will never betray you who have your side from beginning to end and people who don't have that are vulnerable.

It's a lot harder to be brave if you don't have a teammate. That's why the seals have teams. And so I love that about rally gains.

Jordan and cat on that one. Well, I interviewed .

Riley and SHE is remarkably brave. She's very first threat is extremely the vicious SHE is a incredibly disciplined SHE was robbed multiple times of her just rewards which is also part of the process of dismantling marital racy, which is a process that we're currently deeply committed to because who needs merit when you could have, let's say, diversity as an alternative?

She's a Operate person and SHE is a great role model for for everyone, but particularly for Young women. You know, SHE SHE stood her ground man and SHE. You know, you talk a little bit. I don't remember what was the video clip when you were speaking life, but about the consequences of seeing what you believe to be true.

I wouldn't say telling the truth exactly because you know, you have to be pretty presumptuous if you think you've got a hammerlock on the truth, but you could at least try to say what you believe to be true. And what's so interesting about that, this is something I don't know if there's anything more important than you can know than this, is that if you say what you believe to be true, you are living your life. You will have the adventure of your life.

You will reveal your soul. IT will make itself manifest in the world that will make your life worthwhile, no matter what suffering you undergo, no matter what suffering you encounter. It's such a secret to know that, and Riley games knows that. And she's having a hell of an adventure, you know and SHE hasn't been cancelled and she's come up against some bitter and well armed foes but all that's gonna is make her even more than SHE already is and that's something to see because she's already quite something .

right loud and clear. Okay, i'm getting signals that were we've used up our half hour, but I negotiated another five minutes. So let's see what we can do. Two sentences each, and both of you are going to get hit with the word and you're first immigration. And immigration like natural .

glass on that can save your life or kill you IT depends how you apply IT. Some selective immigration that meets the needs of the country is great. Canada has had a lot of IT over the years.

You're proud of IT justly so. Same with my country, unrestrained immigration done for political reasons or for reasons of racial hostility, which is why it's happening now. Well, absolutely eliminate your country from the map.

No country does that. No country, that ones to remain a country. Your country is doing IT more than any other of the world, followed by my country.

And if IT continues, those country won't exist. That's just effect. Sorry.

Jordan.

that was good enough.

Nothing to add for canada. You don't need a wall or .

already talked to, but we had a perfectly reasonable and productive immigration strategy and we've ramped up to a rate that isn't integrated table. And we do that because we don't think that integration is necessary. But you know what the opposite of integration is.

This integration, it's not that hard to figure out. And you can imagine that there's a rate at which the the the inclusion of new people into your culture is actually invigorating, know the new ideas that are brought in, the different ideas that brought in the different skills. And then you can imagine that there's a rate that if you exceed, becomes devastating.

And so it's like almost everything else that's complex. If it's done well and wisely, then it's going to have a productive consequence. If it's done foolishly and bitterly, then it's going to be a disaster.

And so almost everything we do in this country, especially at the federal level, is done bitterly, resentfully and incompetently. And so you don't have to be a genius to fish out where that's leading. You just have to want us.

Now I wish we had another half an hour, but where we're going to evolve to in a moment is docker is going to have a little work with a very important politician in the Alberta world. But let me go first with two words they are left with, and i've got dozens i'd love to use, but Jordan first.

Alberta.

Well, you know, IT IT says in the gospel s that to those who who have been given much, much will be required. From those who are given much, much will be required. And you people in, you've been given much, not least a store of resources that are of .

incomprehensible value.

And you have a commentate responsibility along with that gift. And if you store those resources properly, you could help canada move towards an almost inconceivable abundance and do the same thing around the world. And because you've been given that gift, you have that responsibility. And the other thing that's worth understanding is that if you're given a gift and you don't share per IT wisely and you don't take responsibility for IT and you're not grateful for its provision, then that will destroy you. So we make of that what you want.

I can I say one super quick thing as as a not Albert, I think one of the reasons Alberta, canada should be grateful for Alberta, obviously for the reasons the doctor is suggested, but a lot of canada, eastern canada, is not grateful for Alberta. And why is that? I think one of the reasons is Alberta offers a different vision of what a thriving economy looks like.

So toronto like banking and real estate. Can you build up real economy on banking and real estate? You build london's economy and banging in real is completely protecting a fake economy.

British economy is built substantially on natural resources and on egg. That's the real economy. Those are things people want, indeed, they need to live.

And so if you're in toronto, am I pronouncing that correctly and you look back here, it's like it's it's like a chAllenge to you or something you know you're inferior. It's like being the ugly sister. You're mad. That's my view.

Are right.

So you may already slipped into this, but I gave Jordan, Alberta ducker. You get canada.

canada.

canada.

Well, as noted, I I literally loved, I think cannot is the pretty country in the world. And i'm a that guy and i'm interested in populations and i'm interested in land mass. I love nature above all things in this world.

And canada is the second largest country in the world with forty million people live in in there. And if there's one criticism, I would level at canada. It's that why does that every single person in canada have six makers of land? And why is everybody the worst parts of canada are your big cities and there's one in particular, just like IT.

I'm sorry to say I think atrocity it's not worse than gary, inDiana, new york city. And we've got a lot of atrocity cities in my country. But like, why is toronto the face of canada? You see the mountains right there.

I've been to those mountains. They're ridiculous. They are pretty that any mountains we have in my country, a lot pretty.

Have you been to northern quebec, like above the french zone, like just into the woods? It's insane. Have you been to the maritimes? Like it's just elaborate.

It's the crazy st. country. You have so much why you clustered in the crap as places go to discover your own country.

alright. um. That was the most entertaining two sentence, 6 natur that i've ever。

They were run on sentence encountered.

But I spoke with you both before we came up and you looked at me like you didn't think IT was possible. I think you did IT. I think if we had another hour, this crowd would love you. So first of all, i'm going to say thank you to Jordan for this just appearing, so to speak, care and tucker, fucking awesome.

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I love IT.

Thank you premiere. Thank you. So first for we had did last night and had the best time and thank you for letting me a rank foreigner, ask you questions. I'm grateful for that. So I want to ask you about energy um and I want to spend our time time about energy because I mean, you're the premier of Alberta and I think it's really, really interesting but I do feel duty bound to ask you about something that people outside your country or paying attention to and that's people who are imprisoned, unfortunately, in this province for um what appeared to be again.

I'm an outsider and I wouldn't presume to know all the details but i'm interested in the topic and i've looked into IT there are four working classmen I think there are others but was focused on the four who arrested in quotes near the mountains, the border, for what appear to be political crimes, and have not faced trial nor ban given bail. That seems like a human rights violation at scale. It's shocking that could happen in a civilized country. Tell us what you know about that and what you think about IT.

I should first say, because I know that there are representatives from mainstream media here, and they are going to ask me whether I read with every single word you said in the previous.

I hope they buzz off.

I really do. And so what are you often say, especially when i'm being interviewed by the cpc, is, look, I don't agree with every word you say either are obviously, but I accept interviews and have conversations with everyone I think is important for me to make sure that the world knows how incredible Alberta is and is my job to make sure that I can tell your audience that too. So just I know cbc is here, so you can call me on that one if you want.

But to answer the question.

thank you for those boots well deserve.

I should mention, keen bucy from counter ticks here as well as is direct filter brand from western standard. I bet the rebel guides are here too, and I talked to all of them as well. But what I wouldn't say is I had a bit of an education when I became premier, because in our country, the criminal code is determined by the federal government.

There is no interaction that you can have as a provincial leader on pardons, no interaction you can have with the police, no interaction you with prosecutors, no interaction you can have with court system. I made my views very clear when I was running in the leadership that I I call myself a libertine conservative when I was in a job very similar to yours, because I wasn't the media as well. I took the side of those who love freedom and believe that we had severe government over racing is part of the reason why when the job came open, people voted for me.

So I am not proud of our country for having frozen bank accounts. I'm not proud of our country for having jail pastors and not proud of our country for the fact that we still have people languishing in jail for going on two years. And the fact that we, the federal, the federal court just ruled that the federal government's actions and evoking in the C.

A were illegal and bitou to appeal rather than accept the judgment of the corporate. That's a lawless government acting in a lot less way. And I have great sympathy for anyone who's been at the been a victim of thank .

you for saying that and but but given that the trudeau c government's actions as if yesterday have been ruled criminal and you describe them as lawless, which I think demonstrably they are, and given that the media outlets, the big ones in canada, are organs of the state, literally we don't really know anything about what these four men, the cuts four, have been accused of doing. Don't you think IT would send a powerful message to go visit them in jail and find out what they've been accused of?

Well, some of you may know I had a phone call with somebody in a similar position. And what I have learned is that all I can say is the crown Operates independent prosecutors have to make sure that they have a reasonable likelihood of conviction, and I guess they will have to assess whether or not that is the case.

Now with the court judgment that came down, I I must tell you it's it's part of the journey we've all gone on in the last year to realize just how much limitation there is. It's striking to me that a political action can be taken to launch a police charge and the criminal proceedings. But you can't take a political action to say, you know what? On sober second thought, we've reconsidered.

We're wrong or going to vacate these charges. It's good work from people like the canadian constitution foundation, just a center for constitutional freedom, civil liberties association. They are doing, they are doing the work in the way that our, our system allows. I wish I truly wish I could do more. But i've i've had my wings clips in the last year.

Do you hope someone can stand up for the most powerless in your society? Who are those for? Okay, let me ask you this this what I want to talk about and you're an actual expert on this.

Since you run Alberta, so many natural research, you're so much energy here, remarkable. But it's also pretty cold and not always Sunny half the year. So I was done to learn that you have solar farms here. Is that true? That can be real.

Well, we do. And I represent A A riding that down in south n Alberta. And this is my favorite time of year to drive past when we've got snow covered fields because guess what, you ve also got snowy veld solar panels that aren't generating a single megawatt solar energy.

We also, I don't know if you know this stucker, but I was very impacted by what happened in texas a few years ago when their power grid failed because we've merer the way that theyve structured their market. They've got a large based of natural gas, but y've also added with an solar. And then when they got into an electricity crunch and the grid failed, three hundred and forty six people died because that's what happens when the power grid fails and people rely on electricity to live.

So we ended up in the last two years now having fourteen alerts on our grid because that's how close we are to failure. And we had to take the extraordinary measure a week ago of putting on an emergency ert tell Albertine, because if we had, we were, we were forty megawatts away from having to do rolling rollouts. Rolling blackouts, which would have met one hundred and twenty thousand homes, plunged into darkness for thirty minutes at a time, at six o'clock at night, when people are making dinner, when kids are doing homework, who mean, imagine the impact of those who require machines to live, those were on dialysis, those who are in hospital. There is no possible way, as a political leader that i'm going to allow the ideology against fossil fuels to impact what my job is, and that's to ensure that we have got safe, reliable fitting power.

But I applaud you with such incentive for taking a position on behalf of your constituents and their lives and not wanting to kill them.

May may I say because what happened that day, I mean, as I know, I don't like to put too many numbers out there, but to understand the the scale of what we're dealing with, we were about twelve thousand five hundred megawatts at our peak. So if forty megawatts more had come on, that would have resulted in in in the blackouts I was just talking about. We've got six thousand magones have installed wind and solar.

Solar was zero. Wind was seven megawatts. And I simply can't say to people will just wait till the sun comes up and the windstar is blowing at nine o clock in the morning.

Good luck to you getting through the night. But that's I guess the the divide that we're talking about is i've been astonished to read some commentary after that happened was see, your neutrals is wrong. You need to build more wind and solar.

How do you come to that conclusion that your power grid fails because you don't have reliable power? My conclusion is you need to have more baseload power, more natural gas. But that's, I guess, the nature of the duality that .

we have is just little bit confusing if you step back because power generation, power grids are highly technical, complex things designed over one hundred years by engineers, and yet people don't know anything about them, have changed them with the same apply to, say, heart surgery. I've never you going to medical school, but I have very strong feelings about how you're doing your heart transplants. Let me impose my new heart transplant regs. I knew you would say that's insane.

People will die. I I wish you would put Stephen key bow in your crossers as you're doing.

Is he an engineer?

He's an environmental salad. He happens to be our minister federally. And I you know I guess if you put that question to to him, he believes he has the expertise, a and knowledge to tell us in Alberta how to run our power grid. I don't know you know much about steeper keyboard.

I don't know if I ever heard i'm wanting to learn less just by your description.

Well one thing I find so offensive, I mean you talk about uh um the disrespect to our province. This is a guy who is an environmental lad. vacate.

He's best known for scaling the C. N. Tower in opposition of fossil fuels when he was working as an environmental advocate. But he also scaled the house of our premier.

So it's a rock climber. Well, not an engineer.

He maybe, hey, be Better at that, but imagine that, imagine somebody going and taking a criminal offence going under the roof of a premier, and they make that person in charge of trying to dictate to us how to pull our resources at the ground, how to manage our natural resources, how to how to manager our electricity. That's what just in trudeau. So i'm trying to get him fired. And I would love your help on that.

IT just IT seems like for for decades, the kind of rich kid lifestyle liberalism that now dominates everything was confined to kind of sociology departments in liberal arts colleges who made the decision to allow people like that to have control over medical schools, power grids, airlines. That seems like a bad idea. why?

Wonder if you've got the same dynamic in in the us. One of the things that i've noticed here as conservatives is that we have vacated all of the opinion shaping institutions in society, so we vacate the media. The mea is now almost, with the exception of some of the alternative media mention, they are almost all of a particular mindset, progressive mindset.

The universities and doctor Peterson speaks of this very well, almost uniformly. Are they um uh of an logy the penalties zed kids, quite Frankly, if they want to write a paper about conservatism, they get marked down. You hear about that regularly if you look at the hollywood hollywood terrible when IT comes to the messages and how they portray conservatives, how they portray capitalism.

And I think as well, we have increasingly become urbanized. And so I suppose when you get disconnected from the land, disconnected from something real, disconnected from the dirty jobs, then do understand that when you turn the lights on IT the they they only work because of everything that is happening out in the rural area. When you go on and phillip p, your car is only happening because if we've been able to have people who are develop our now for resources, I did. I think that's one of the disconnects that that .

we end up having. I did get such a smart analysis and totally true. But providing electricity to your population is not some kind of like boutique add on. You get, if you pay extra taxes, that's like a baseline requirement of being a state. And if you can provide electricity.

your failed state, right? I think you may be surprised to hear, mean, uh, praise Michael Moore because I think he has done more to accelerate what we need to be thinking about with electricity. Prior to his movie planet of the humans, I think there was this ideology that all you had to do is put up wind and solar and batteries and you get free electricity.

And I think people actually believe that that was true. They didn't talk about the interminable cy, nor did they talk about the fact that wind and solar aren't aren't truly carbon neutral. And you can make a winter bine without steel.

Lots of carbon goes into that fiber glass as well. Lots of carbon that goes into that the cemented the base, there's lots of carbon that goes into that and the truck loads that IT takes to get to decide all of the that is gasoline and diesel. But that's the kind of the piece that put together, is he realized that you can't have winded solar without a heavy reliance on fossil fuels.

And I think IT blew up the paradigm. D, so now we're beginning to happen. More onest conversation about what that looks like. But I think that there is this fantasy thinking that because people don't know how things work, that they believe that the these simply list c solutions that are offered by politicians are actually achievable.

And IT makes the harper for for conservatives and politicians who do have to actually make things work to kind of bus through, especially when you got the media stack against you and trying to get the message and try to make people realized that these things matter. We can transition over time to reduce emissions so that we have less impact on the environment. That's all great, but affordability and reliability have got to be top of mind for anybody making decisions that impact those lives.

So you literally have no solar powered steel furnace in canada, not one. okay. Last question because we're almost at the time and again, so thankful that you're willing to do this. Where do you think this goes that you just said that you're province, which is the the which province of your country? I was almost out of electricity just recently.

So does this if at the current trajectory, it'll be belive a in terms of this paragraph? And what does that get Better soon? Or does IT continue to get what's your projection?

Fortunately, we do have people of soldiers on and are going to bring on new basement natural gas power in the new year. So that will stay ze on that run. Yeah we we also, I think I would like to to take a page out the of what the americans are doing really because on on the one hand, federal leadership is talking along the same lines that, oh, I ve noticed, but look, was happening.

AmErica has become the largest producer of oil and gas for export in that same period of time. Well, all of the politicians have said they're going in opposite direction. So I think we should just double down and decide we're going to double our oil and gas production because.

Because truly, like, where else does amErica want to get its oil from? You want to get IT from iran. Do you want to get IT from Venus from safe canada? So I think that we can do a lot to make sure that the americans know that we are here to provide energy security. We are a great friend, great hotel, great neighbor, and we just need to get the political leadership to realize that .

we are a friend. Then my three word piece advice would be, stop being embarrassed about who you are. You have nothing to be embarrassed about at all.

It's great advice.

Thank you so much for doing this. appreciated. We can say one last thing you said, cbc is in the room, the state media.

I would love to do an interview. Well, I would love to do an interview as cbc meet me back stage. I dare you to put IT on TV. thanks.