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主持人认为乔·拜登是邪恶的,并且对Cat Turd与亚当·金辛格的冲突以及Cat Turd账号的走红表示关注。Cat Turd则讲述了自己的个人经历,包括在军队服役、吸毒酗酒、从事音乐和光纤建设工作等,并解释了其创建社交媒体账号的动机以及对美国政治和社会现状的看法,包括对两党政治的批评、对当前教育体系的担忧以及对未来政治局势的预测。 Cat Turd认为自己受到了死亡威胁和骚扰,并对政府对这些行为的漠不关心表示不满。他批评了民主党人和共和党人,并表达了对美国未来政治和社会走向的担忧,包括对特朗普的支持、对尼基·黑利和迈克·彭斯的批评以及对2024年总统大选的预测。

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Catturd, a social media influencer, shares his life story from growing up in Northwest Florida, joining the army, and transitioning to a professional musician. He discusses his unexpected rise to fame on Twitter after initially joining with no social media experience.
  • Catturd is from Northwest Florida and joined the army at 17.
  • He suffered a back injury while serving and was medically discharged.
  • Catturd became a professional musician, playing in a band.
  • He later worked in fiber optics construction.
  • Joined Twitter at 54 with no prior social media experience and quickly gained a large following.

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If you don't pay close attention to job de, you're probably content to dismiss and measure to senile old fool existing the stage at high speed. But if you actually listen to him, if you wash what your wide and says he does to you, actually this man is evil, actually evil. Listen nobody says, is dishonest, is vicious.

It's cruel to his fellow americans. He's a bad person, and he's the present united states. And yet, no one seems to say that out loud or even notice.

Instead, our moral superiors are overlords, are very exercised about, well, some, some people, you probably not even heard of people on the internet who are saying true things. And one of people makes the matter is a guy really in account called catch red. Yes, that's the name.

One word on x formerly twitter. Cattel has millions of followers and is remarkably, remarkably controversial for a person whose name has never been spoken in public. Actually gotten to a fight with adam kings' er, no less than adam kissinger. Speaking of evil, here's in case you forgotten IT, here's what to look like.

Kingson made that clear the other day when he responded personally to a twitter account called catered because when you're one of washington leading authorities on foreign icy youd spend a lot of time on twitter reading accounts with names I captured. So the other day captured made the mistake of posting a mean that seemed to mock the colors of the ukrainian flag, colors that are sacred to adam kin, sagging in every other empathetic soco moment. 4, you could imagine how offensive that was, was like telling an off color joke about Megan markle.

IT could not stand and so alone in battling to bitting hot flashes in this kitchen, fighting the urge to open yet another bag of gypsy hoi. Adam kissinger fought back, literally, evil. He wrote in a late night response to countered, if I met you in person, you would not end well for you.

Cicco, here that catered IT will not end well for you. It's not a pillow fight adam kinzie er is talking about. That's a fall on slap fight with hair pulling.

This is real. You Better apologize. Heart goes out to capture tonight, probably covering in a little box. And we're waiting for adam king's ager to show up with sharp nails so captured enrage adam kings' er and is also been noticed on late icon edy .

shows watch and things seem to hit a new low last night as he retweet three times an account called captured.

Now, to be fair, the cat is wearing glasses, so you must be small. The actual twitter handle for the account is cats third, too, and I for one, cannot wait to see what's in store from cattle three. Cattle sounds like someone joe brydon would have brought up in a speech during the primaries when I was grown up in screen that was a real mean sun of a gun we used on cattle.

He could do up and be bop like nobody y's business. What was I talking about? Oh yeah, primate change.

Well, there's a reason nobody watches like that comedy shows anymore. But still, catch red seems to offend people. Why is that? Who is this man whose can turn one? We found him.

He's a man. He's from the south that all we know. He wants to keep his named private because he doesn't his life anymore disrupted and already has been.

But he is joining us anyway in physical form. Catcher is great to see you. How are you doing? So you made .

IT .

talker so many, so many questions. So I actually don't know your real name. Just for the record OK. What year did you graduate from yale?

Yeah I graduate you I think one thousand .

nine hundred eighty four. No, seriously, I guess you didn't .

go to you.

And I mean, I went I remember you so well there um where you like, what was your preparation for being catch red? Like tell us your life trajectory. Who are you without revealing your name?

Well, i'm from northwest florida. I mean georgia thing yeah. Well, I live in northwest florida now.

But so a graduate high school kind of early seventeen in the army um I still in the earlier I spent my eighteenth th birthday in a foxo and four dicks new jersey and basic training back when IT really was basic training um and then um I got injured when I was over in bad kiss k in germany and we were on alert and I hurt my back row band had surgery oh and I was pretty much in the my army career. I was a mid i've aced, aced for born georgia had back surgery. I'd actually try to stay in bottom. They wouldn't let me yeah I mean, it's been something I had to deal with the whole .

law so they make your body then kick you out yes.

it's horble medical discharge but yeah and so um after that um I hit hiked to panama city and pretty much been in in the pan and later since you love and fifty nine years old, I spent you know just like most people but I was i'm i'm different than most of the influencers that do all the right things have the kids or the student ties. I pretty much was screwed up to us about forty forty five.

I had a couple of film marriages, uh, followed by I I was just I was a professional musician for years as a happy. I had long hair and a beard and and smoked we and had a vb of van, really god shirts. I did, I did.

That was a real hippy. I went from job to job. Party a lot there. Yeah party a lot. And I had my my state drugs, alcohol. I don't know why I scared my big famous picture, this big picture of how um you know in the world that we live in today just like just i've always been honest with my followers and on my podcast um I .

don't trust people who don't know how weak they are.

Yeah I know yeah and so I kind of aimlessly went through my life and then I finally ended up you working a good vibrations tics job for years um at fifty four years old, which was five years ago. I'd never been on social media. I didn't know you think about social. I even know how work.

Had no friends on social media and I just decided to have I got authority in my fingers I can play a tori more and I was just like what i'm get on twitter and I just, you know, saw the cat just said cat turned every thought I would have one hundred followers. You know, who would think that is just like it's like homer simpson. Okay, this way beyond, you know, they're doing.

if I can. As cue was, what was the moment when you decided to make that your num to care?

I just was like searching through the wave and I saw that cat picture and I just capture, is that simple? I mean, you know, I didn't thinking buys everyone follow me. I remember asking people for weeks, how do I post a pitch only here and so I don't even know how to took off IT just got legs somehow and I just took off.

So, but what did you do?

IT wanted to do what?

Why do you go online and start?

Keeps your opinions? I don't know. We've always been as a professional musician um in in the nineties. You you know you have to be good construction question yeah because you gotta make money yeah you know i'm a little slow. I so you very learned to build stuff.

So you know me, a bad guys were build and we build deck rules, build a, build a house, whatever. And so in the nine, uh, you you're bored and know we played music and not we don't only listen to music so I started listen to russia in mbo. Oh, every day we'd listened to rushing by where we're building house is .

whatever you in every construction .

crew in amErica yeah and I just just like this is I didn't even know I was a hippy. I thought I was a liberal. You know what? I was still and I was like, this guys say, and everything I believe and IT was IT was I listen to him to the day die, really.

Yeah, of total rush baby. And I was just like discuss it's talking exactly what I think and I never even knew what I was until, you know, I started listening to him but that's so I got in and I was just political junkie from the first time I heard team and it's just been like that ever since. So I got on, you know, twitter now eggs and just started posting in, man, one of five years. It's not believe I mean.

but but why did you do that? I think like people have political opinions, but they don't imagine that others you want to read them or they don't feel compelled to share them with the world .

on the social media. APP, I don't know what .

I caught fire.

Um what did you want to do? IT frustrate. I just I think is an artistic. Um although I I didn't play on stage a lot in last years, I ve always go to my room and I wrote a lot of music.

I actually wrote my best stuff then and IT was just I need that artistic outlets yes. And when I lost that, I I was really kind of depressed because I lost my things just like overnight, they started swelling up. I got all the rates from playing a tar and using power tools in her life.

And I was just luck. I just need to do something. And so I just got on social media just just spur the moment in my birthday, like two days after my birthday, i'm join twitter and I was asking people, come to, how do you join twitter .

or how do you do a picture? Is your .

membership committee? Is the rules?

So went, at what point did IT? I can't remember the first time I saw, but um at what point did you realize I was working?

I don't know. I remember after two, three months, I was, I was working on a job in miami and I told one of my friends that was, that was dreaming with me at the time we were work in there. I said many things really taken off, and he thought I strates what as he is catered saying.

And he thought I was everybody trying to tell everybody he's really, and their body, just like, whatever, you know, here's the travel start. Get the rocks over there in the old and IT just is just caught fire. I don't know how, I don't know how I did and I just keeps going.

wow. I mean, to you, you're in miami rooming with another guy that you're working with yeah on some kind .

of job yeah yeah fiber optics job a fiberoptic construction for years after I got finish you music career like at .

the point that adam kingsand are such applying to you and threatening your life oh yeah by the way, that would be quite a slap fight.

Do you feel confident? I don't know, you know, it's he's scary. I wanna sly out. We are. So when we will get A A home, deeper fog and bucket and stand on IT.

But when adam kissinger himself has got a you know he's got ukraine to defend no yeah he's super busy transitioning or whatever he's doing when he takes time to attack you and threaten to beat you up or scratch you yeah like .

and that wasn't on me. I just said I think I said I shouldn't be laughing at this, but its funny yeah and and then I made IT worse. Now, once he does that, that don't understand how the internet works. Now I got a face on IT. You have only now, now all the time you see that meme is his face.

Well, how do you understand how the internet works?

I don't know. I just somehow do.

interesting. yeah. So what does .

IT done your life? Well, it's totally changed my life. You know, financially, I started sell in march and then got a podcast, know, we got jews and have a cold jews a Jones, our podcast called you in the little blocks and you know, we got to deal with the rumble, which we love.

We d love a rumble and and then, you know, fast four of these add shares, which are crazy, you know, with the elon ask me is big money and I bought any truck couple of weeks going to read a new vehicle my life, you know, in the bill to do something like that for me. I mean, I think a lot of people, I know what it's liked to look, pay, check to paycheck for most of my life. I know what it's liked to like, a tea bag, you know, with the work day and be so, yes, I know what is like to choose from iran and food.

I know what is like to around around on four different times. One's got three plugs, ones got five plugs, ones got thirteen plugs in IT. You know, we got on baloney skins and no trade. So I think I think A A lot of people just i'm going to like the rudy twitter. I truly don't deserve to be there, but I worked hard enough to maybe get that one play at the end .

of the game is the most .

american story ever. IT really is not there. I don't think there's a lot of people like my situation because like I say, mostly influencers or I mean, they just have and they did the right thing, not me.

I did the wrong thing. They did the right thing to get create wives and kids and and you know they've made a lot of money that I got no parents. They're successful and they went to college for sure. And i'm just a working class if well.

that's the ruling class to the country yeah and i'm from IT, so I know yeah um so it's pretty amazing to see this happen to you IT is so how much of your day is spent on IT?

Pretty much seven days a week up. I'm an in somma. Ac always had been. So I A bit four or five and I basically do IT seven days a week, no, fifteen hours a day.

What is so but you spent your life moving physically moving outside, obviously been hard on your body said, but it's also there's something good about moving. And I mean, it's like the change at fifty five to go from, you know beit on the road and stalls ling fiber cable to sitting behind the screen.

fantastic. Strong moving. No, but we like sorry, 是 我操。

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Every time you use your credit card, they charge you a hidden fee called a swipe fee, and they've been raising IT without even telling you this gets consumers and every small business owner. In fact, american families are paying eleven hundred dollars in hidden s White busy cheer the fees, VISA and master card charge. Americans are the highest in the world, double canada and eight times more than europe. That's why I take an action, but I need your help to help get this past. I M asking you to call your senator today and demand they passed the credit card competition act painful by the merchants .

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Every time you use your credit card, they charge you a hidden fee called a swipe fee, and they're been raising IT without even telling you this sorts consumers and every small business owner. In fact, american families are paying eleven hundred dollars in hidden White busy cheer. The fees, VISA and mastered card charge.

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payments coalition not authorized by any canada or canada's committee. W W, W, merchants payments coalition dock com. I've got thirteen rescue pets and I still, you know, I still take care of my i've got a little I got a horse ranch, but there's no horse is got a barn in an old deal and it's fenced in where my dogs can run free and I chase them around all day.

Thirteen rescues.

Yeah.

thirteen now was that like it's well.

I post all the pictures on line. It's all these beautiful pictures, but they don't see all the fights in the growing there. He swallowing a bone and he swallowed a rope and they are all j in a squirl and they're fighting you know they don't see all that but it's I don't know what happened um but they just started come into i've never been to a rescue, a shelter they have found all my pets starvin and beat in abandoned and and just on the side of the road dog the dogs except I got two puppies one of the dogs I got a came in and he was jone I didn't think you think about IT and SHE got pregnant and four I knew that he was just like, I add tin pupping two on top of this and he's funny because I gave him away and they have got twitter cancer I use twitter cancer people follow the puppies that called puppy turns.

Why do you adopt so many animals?

I just, I mean, when when you see at the dog starve in, where are you gonna do? And then I try to tell myself, I will rehoboth some of these. And then you spend so much time with them, try just like get them fed.

Yeah, there there's so the ones up, I fine. There's so almost dead, starving to death, so and then I fall in love with them. I can't let them go. And it's that simple.

Wow, that's, I mean, that's pretty, that's pretty amazing.

But I gotta start.

Well, now you can afford .

the dog food yeah so um I can and um you know it's just kind of turn anything where people say, hey, catered, I got a rescue we ve found inside the roads so i'll post IT or or repost IT and is just turn into something I do if you als bill and you got to get separated. Some um you know different some of are found their ten years old. Some are found their puppies and some um just don't lack each other.

Yeah dogs are like that. Yeah it's hard to get pack cohesion. So you're not telling a sheer real name or taking your glasses off. I respect, but tell us why tell us why that would be a concern in well closely free country.

yes. So um number one, I liked being in the background. I get invited to all the red carpet events and to but I never goes it's not matter uh but I mean for just saying my opinion and that's all I do, I just give my opinion.

I just like look at each issue and they call me a rattling fanatic on wikipedia you know, all these hit pieces they do but you know I hate the republican and democrat party equally. I mean we have a country now nine nine percent of washing dc is just corrupt. And um where the resist you're not the resist no of the people online, we are the resist and we just trying to fix the country. So for doing my common sense of being, I get death rates have been slated three times.

They try to have me more tell us tell us what that's like.

Well, IT always usually happens during my podcast but so um the last time they they call unfortunate be me and they said that um ah that I called my wife in bed with somebody i'm not married so and I shot on both and they want to police get there, i'm going to kill them so they'll try to come up and they try get you murdered. That's what IT is. It's attempted murder.

If you ask me during your podcast, during the is always during the podcast, it's happened to me three times. It's happened to a lot of as you know, it's happened to marginal or Green to in pool. Um but once you know everybody's once you get to a certain level, they're they're gone to come after you. I have they've lately they've been cutting heads off abbas and threw them them off the body over my gate series. That's seven three times now too.

So we live in a country where the citizenry is surveyed much more third ly than north korea surveilled its own citizens. Like everything you do is monitored right through your phone facial recognition satellite. Everything is monitored, but they can't find the people who are doing .

this yeah and in or even interested in. Fine, if IT happens to us, you know and who do we call?

Who do you call? Who do you call?

Because there is not by now, the local police where I live awesome and I support the blue, always have. I just don't support the feds, but I mean, look what they're turned into. It's it's awful.

Do you call the local cops when this happens? And what do they say?

Well, the first time I did IT, they were like your cat turned and so yeah so i'll left to matter. The first time I get a bunch gear here, get there the but they they actually come in and they patrol my property a lot, mainly because it's one horse town is nothing to do, but they're great. And then and they watch IT like a hack, you know, they're very protective of.

But it's like if somebody on the left annoyed me, which they do a what i'll mute them, right? If if I annoy people, which I understand to do, they try to have me killed. I mean.

there is a big gap in. It's a big muting.

Yeah so you spend your .

life watching what's happening. Oh yeah. What conclusions have you drawn? What do you think we're going this year but we're in trouble.

I mean, it's just I always thought to be positive, but sometimes I can't see a way out of that anymore, can you I mean, I just don't see a way out of IT and i'm a trump support. I'm a trump guy yeah if you know I go back to IT cracks me. The funniest thing to me on eggs is all the people that do whatever the government says that put resist in their bio. Yes, that's the funniest thing.

Glass matter, little bitches.

whatever. And and they can tell them anything they'll do IT. What if you can convention voters that men can have babies? Yeah, think about that.

You've got tell. You can tell, tell the word dirty dopper. They going, they will, and they don't have a dirty your here. But once once they can convince you of that, I mean, you've got to know these people are laughing when they're at the bar, the democrats, and that we've convinced them that mean can have babies and they believe IT and they're calling .

or by names IT didn't believe IT. So do you see that changing at all?

I believe the woke is the woke part of is come into ahead. I really do. I think it's people started that I am.

And we don't care what names you call us. And i'm a person who believes I don't. You know, I was a hippy.

I was a real hip, not only fake hippy, so I was an actual hip. I mean, I lived up, I was homeless at one time. I lived up in a team, but in a late for .

us how was IT?

Um IT was good. Go all crap in iron every night.

You are crappy .

every night. Oh well, get get IT somehow. Yeah uh, so it's it's, it's, it's a rough spot to be in. But um where where are we done that? You say that .

people are getting sick of the anti White stuff, the train stuff, all that.

But the kids have a chance I mean think think about this um i'm fifty nine and I think you in your fifties and we went to school, there was we can actually learn mathematic social studies history, but they think about a card these days he goes to school so they started their three or four in kindergarten and they don't have a chance. They they look what they do to him now they like critical race theory. You get over there.

Are you racist? And you're okay, your racist. And then they put a Masonic and and they teach you that the area breeds poison.

And then they tell you you're all going to down, burn in hell fire from global warming and twelve years. Think about these little kids how scared they are. They are and and uh trans this and and they're show in bj to seven years old in books.

And then they go through the whole school. It's like that. And then they step in the college and what's college this turbo now and their brain wash through. And honestly think the longer you stay in college, the dummer you get now.

Honestly question about IT, does that makes makes a lot of sense?

And so you have these teachers, so they go, they go through that and then they go, they staying college as long as they can through the thirty years old, and then they go right from there to a teaching jobs. So they stay on campus until they're fifty. So they don't have any laugh experience. They have never, they don't notice, like to to work for a living or run a business and they're the one's teaching, you know, and it's just it's it's horrible so they don't .

have a chance. So all of this or some of IT is gonna come to ahead discounter because of the presidential election? Or where do you .

see that going? Well, man, trump's gonna win the Brown area hope everybody knows that we him all around and fight each other and the distances test people we all are in there, we're all fighting each other but trump's gone to win the primary and he should win IT. Um but man, um what you're doing doing and they're not they'll not doing to trump t to do the trumpy hate him.

But how we say on the podcast that watch IT is okay. As long as they have George bush first obama every year, that's what they they George bush versus obama every four years, they split up the four trillion dollars with their friends. Some of them get IT, sometimes some them give IT.

That's what they want. They want bush first is obama. They're okay with that. Yeah, they love nicky hai. How you know .

can I give us? yeah. And since online all day, do you think there's organic support for nicky? There's none. okay. Because she's i'm not even sure she's an actual human being.

Yeah, she's the most dangerous republican primer canet. We've had probably one of them .

in my lifetime.

Why do you say that? She's just, I mean, some of the things he said like she's a neocon number one yeah I mean, my god, how many times you can be food america? I mean from the vietnam war if vietnam, north vietnam e be south vietnam, it's over for our country yeah listen and sixty thousand people to the korea was the same way, all the middle eastern wars. And she's rought in there.

Ukraine, ukraine. But unlike you, SHE served .

her country. Yeah, yes, but, but she's dangerous. And remember when you said a week ago, if you're anonymous on twitter, whatever I want your name.

that's what with the to .

I want your name, not the government wants to add you. She's dangerous. I just I get a feel for people.

I've always had a that kind of feel people. I just, it's just, she's like my pants. yeah. She's nothing they say is authentic. Everything sounds like this program, please shades.

Yes, i've had a lot of bosses in my life and some nasty once you know, that's the way bosses are yeah. And every person i've ever talked to in my life and everybody ever had, they talk exactly like to up. I love them. Yeah, I don't have anybody in my life that sets up very like mac pants and, you know, a burning my hands. We're doing the bush just every day.

If you get a creepy vibe of pants total.

I say on the podcast, sometimes I don't know what's killed and these, i'd hate to see what goes on there. And when the.

So just nobody's that perfect.

you know, connecting perfect. I remember that time is like I can't even have a lunch with another woman because i'm married even if for friends remembered that .

yeah that was like, yeah I had I had a lot of thoughts about that. I mean, by the way, I think you, if you're married, you should really actively try not to commit adult. I think that that I totally agree with out a hundred percent, but him specifically saying that I reached exactly the opposite conclusion.

I just gonna that, yeah I don't I don't trust them there that perfect in the it's all it's just like it's planned, everything they says planned and I just that's why like thump, you know, this trump makes some bad everybody. I don't believe everything you say and you don't believe everything I say. I don't believe trump h doesn't believe everything I say.

But I mean, what they're doing now, he's oria iconic figure and they're to turn them into the order and they're making IT more powerful and more powerful and more powerful. And I could see him if the election was fair, I could see him just totally steam role. And if IT was fair, I know IT would be .

need to get will be.

well, who do we have to fight? How do we have to fight? ronny?

Daniel, give me a break. I mean, we got Scott presser out there, beaten the streets. He's beaten straight like like a bicycle clan.

And there he is, gone around everywhere. He's rester. And voters, he in the ground, in the republican ty won, give him the time a day. He knows every rule to every county in his country. And that if you could have a thousand of him out there and they trying another thousand, you could sweep this thing.

Why do you think they are not .

doing that well?

Then why would you have someone as mediocre and incapable? Onomea animal is no track recorder of success in any area. Why would SHE run republic and party?

Pretty weird. I have no idea. I remember when know ninety percent of the people we're complain about her getting the job again.

I remember one of the donors. So the, yeah, yes, this has nothing to do. The donors picked. I remember reading a story like that.

and that sounds true.

is true. They don't care. They don't care about us.

I mean, always say, specially when IT comes, the trump democrats cheat. The republicans OLED him because they hate rob. Yeah, they hate him. And I mean, it's a simple choice to me. I mean, if you, he's the only resist president in my lifetime.

why do you think they hate him so much?

Because he's not a part of their club. This is not about trumped to me. It's just like this is an outsider and we're going to destroy his life and we're going to show everybody out there that if you pick an outsider, somebody that we hadn't pick going back to a bush versus obama situation, if if it's not the people we pick that are we're okay with were going destroy their lives, we're going to they can even get a lawyer.

There are rest your lawyer for defending you yeah and we're going to make up stuff. We're going to say you're property that's worth of a billion dollars or thirteen dollars and seventy four cents. We're going to do whatever we can.

And this is the show, not just trumped that anybody in the next fifty years we will seek the fbr, the C I. We will destroy you if you're not our chosen people. And that's what are things going on. At a public urinal.

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If trump is prevented from appearing on the valid in november, if she's arrested, you know, something even worse happens, which is entirely positive. The next step, of course, is the next step. I really want to say, I know everyone hey, saying no course i'm not going to and ever who knows him talking about um but if he is prevented, if democracy is prevented from proceeding, what do you think the response from his voters is? Gna bees, you follow this carefully.

Well, what do you think they do? The january six things they want to scare that if you do anything, you could be eighty foot, you know, outside the tape of the capital, you could be a half of mom away, and they going to come after .

you because there haven't been any. I mean, this used to be a country where people felt free to assemble, as is guaranteed them in the constitution to make their views. Now the other demonstrations and rallies, you haven't seen general six, the last one on the right.

that i'm aware of, that what they are trying to do scare you.

So, but do you think that there will be demonstrations if something oh yeah.

it's yeah but like I say, they're just make IT .

more powerful, making trump more .

yeah I mean, I hate to tell you lives this, but because of you, in one hundred years they're going to be talking about me, you're even you are going to talking about trump in one hundred years ago that he's gone to be one of the biggest figures in the history of our country, not because what he did, but because of how they're treating him and they're making them more powerful. And if it's arresting, it's put in a jail. And you imagine, and and IT could happen, people say, can happen.

If IT could happen, look up very easily. Who should he pick?

Is a running man. Hh, man, I go back in four from this. I would like to say this that I don't think the VP pic really matters that much. I mean, we got Harris of .

VP yeah .

but i'll tell you IT takes a long time for me to trust you, but i'm starting to like vivid and i'm not sure if he's fake and i'm not sure if he's just a show but man, he's piece in enough that is mean yeah they .

they do an .

essay and I mean, boy, they put debate my god, he got rony MC. He got all of mad but in in IT funny he's run in the campaign exactly what the santa should have been running. He's run in the campaign that decentest, but centres is running in a nicki I campaign.

Does IT seem that IT .

does to me what you said, something about his own line team is just so crying. And I shouldn't .

say that I shouldn't gotten involved and that i've been trying to stay out if IT I just um and I know what they are .

and they but yeah don't standard I mean, people like you know people build trust with you is consistency over time yeah and when you're a trump supporter out, well, someone hated trump and you d love them up and you love him and now you love the santa and then going you don't love and niki, people don't trust that and I don't have anything against any I mute a lot of I don't Carry garage. We ask people, and I welcome anybody. And when it's over, of course, you know, I don't have any.

do you think that? But IT does. I know, I follow IT closely, admit, and I want to follow or closely. But IT does seem like there's enormous bitterness between the decentish people.

The trump H H. There is is crazy. And I try not to get in to the personal attacks. I'm kind of like trump, even on an X I out if if you want to you know, i'm a shit post.

If you if you wants to come out the shit poster, yeah, two million followers come on in an army of your phone when at the mouth is waiting me say, you know, to get on somebody but I very seldom I don't just attack first but you know if you keep attacking me yeah and but IT doesn't bother me and I don't taking me this so personally I I don't you know they've call me every name in the book you know um i'll be called that know you're old you that you're ugly I mean that so I find you know which all three are kind of troops I ll have to beat of the next round. But um people get so mad at this and you have to like if you have to step back from me and I think it's funny. I've lived in the real world where you know i've been in barfield and real you know stuff. Um so you know somebody called me ugly and old a boomer. I don't care .

yeah the you I don't care, I don't even know what people say. I I care with the people I love think that's me that's IT and like you have a lot of dogs, which really helps. Yeah do you think the breach between those two camps trumpet descanted st can be fixed?

Yeah I think some of IT some people can but most people can. Um but this is my first primary. I means been I don't know it's ever been this vicious, but so I supported the santas and Flora guy. I'm glad he was are given up oh me, I don't get paid by any campaign and I pushed hard and I was so glad when he went about twenty points and I was so happy and I think he's a good governor yeah and so in I try to tell people you got I don't want him so beaten down and hammered that we are getting a blue governor nex you know a Gavin newsome destroy our state you're here now um but someone from his team, not crazy heart but they asked me my honest opinion about IT when he said he's going to run and I was like, don't do IT whatever you do don't run think about this is what I told him I said OK forty four Young Young and he just won reelection by the biggest landslide i'm like governing .

state yeah and IT how .

perfect is the time and when you the into your eight years as a IT would be right gutted in the meat of the twenty twenty eight this is one of them support trump because he helps you and you don't you don't want the trump supporters. You, they can destroy you. I mean, you don't want them.

You don't want to turn on them. I swear at, look, just please this is my advice just having government support trump all I can in in twenty eight you got bind with only four years left, or trend with only four years left, and now you're more popular. And now you have all the trend people, you have all the descent tst people. And you can moon walk into the light house in twenty twenty eight, moonwalk as monza ackwards.

I use what was the response?

Okay, thanks. So, uh, a lot of people don't take me too seriously, but and I hate you, I hate it's going like this.

but lot of people will do take you seriously, which is interesting and and I can see why I think you're insightful. How many politicians have you met .

personally um well when they when when a personally you know I kind of keep to myself but A D M wise and message me, they all love me when IT comes the election time hey you retreat this and retweet this and um I can't name five people in either party I trust I just don't trust anybody anymore and they don't they don't deserve our trust the republic ican party and come on.

they don't know how to fight no.

they're over. They are talking about their principles and they're rest in their political opponents. So you Better get in the game and we get the power, the gavel.

And what do they do with IT? Seriously, nothing. I mean, this is how you fight. When you get the gavel, you do your own january or six committee.

But do you think it's because they don't understand how to fight or they're throwing the match?

I don't know if they just don't care. Yeah, they don't know. How are they just cowards? But the truth is, so this is how you fight.

You get to generate six committee and you don't welling democrats on IT and you put everybody on IT. They hate just like they did as you put marketed a Green bober s that's the january sixth community. Don't allow them have any witnesses and you start opinion.

Let's see what Nancy ploy was talking to to the capital place. You starts opening everybody and you have IT don't see span every day for years. And if you don't start fighting like that, it's over for this kind well.

but and also you have an oblige to that because it's in pursuit of the truth. What do you make IT the fact of the new speaker of the house, mike Johnson, has not released the video tape, which he controls.

Well, I told everybody, you know, that he, he was gonna awful. I warned everybody there had that looking for your woman. He did what? What did he do is exactly what kim murthy did.

He said he's gona release IT. So they get the big headlands, get her back. They release one percent of one percent, and then they just don't do IT anymore.

And look what when you release that, the q shaman he got at a prison because of that one little five minutes, think of what if they were just release IT, just release IT. But they can do is just pushed the button, just pushed the button and release IT. I know when he was talking about ukraine fun and he's lock.

Well, we have to, at some point to the ukraine. Funny, because we don't want russia steam rolling over europe. That was an exact cause.

Or you think, I mean, obviously, you'd have to be really stupid to believe that and he's .

not stupid. I mean, why would he say something that also.

by the way, if russia, western europe, could he be in work shape than is now? I mean, was the U. S.

Government that block the german economy? IT wasn't the russians. IT was the bite administration.

The blew up north stream, oh yeah. And ended their main source of cheap energy. So I could the russians be worse than that? Maybe, I guess.

but like you get IT, well, you know they're used ukraine as kind of fifty first state and they were no rules. And the biolab was a lot about and told the truth everybody, and washing their kids of their making four million doors year, you know, at some kind of company. But so I don't I don't let them gene me up and they try to gene you you more and get you mad.

I can't get emotional when we have one hundred thousand people down a fit pois in our own country. I'm not gonna emotional. I hate war.

I'm anti war. I'm the one that wants a pace you're the one wants to keep. And here's the problem with ukraine. I think we're going to end up in the same spot a year or so from now. Then there, there will be a piece agreement at somebody only, and there's going be a million dead people and russia going take a little bit of the country, and we're going to be in the .

same place we would have been known .

will ever apologize for all those that and they just can cause putin pups because we want .

peace and that see IT didn't agree more .

so first .

all thank you for doing this a problem um last question do you so you you went from installing fibre line to becoming legitimate. The famous only because of your voice, you are allowed to talk in public purely democratically. People like what you said, they supported you. All of that is contingent on having a voice. Do you think a year from now you will have the same boy, you will be allowed to say the things you are saying now?

Well, I hope so. But um you see what they are doing and to come out to me, you know, I hate to say this, but I tell my family all the time, he will be frame who know, I mean, I don't trust them, hate say and there I want an FBI I don't feel that way about but hey um you they can do anything they if they want to get me, they're gona get me but i'm not gonna shut up so I not said not did .

you feel that you will be able to reach the same audience .

to hear from now I think so I miss is it's gone up um you know i'm doing my own event store. We're doing um we did turn stock. I do want to mention that which was IT was kind of a john rich and I was kind of a joke and I said, no, i'm serious instead, in which stock was third .

stock and where do .

you do IT yeah that's a red river era um his place and no areas would not big coming out where I got to see me and have some great musicians we're actually one of the musician's angie pero who is a is got a you'd love this story talk her is the great american come back story he he was he wrote A A cry for a faith hill and he went a gramma uh and he he was just like believable musician with his voice and um he was on his way of sign with a record label and then he had a stroke and completely lost his voice and couldn't talk and so he spent um I think two thousand sixteen two thousand seventeen I have to talk again and so now he's on his way back up and we he was he was there and um where we're doing event for him on the twenty fourth. So i'm going to just keep kind of staying in my lane and just do what I do you know apply won't go to the red carpet events to me or buying IT features.

But so we're going to miss you at davos next week.

Going to be there. You have to be there. Yeah, I don't I don't know. I just I don't seem like I fit in there to me. I'm more of the hang out with the people kind of person. But IT was nice to make you and and I really preciate you invite me or .

were grateful to have you matter.

Thank you.