Catherine Engelbrecht from True the Vote says it's a real possibility that illegal immigrants could vote in U.S. elections. She explains the legal loophole that few know about.
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We hope you'll check that out here. Today's episode. So over the past, say, ten years, our leaders, that would be the democratic party, so called business community. And in fact, a lot of republican leaders have allowed into our country against federal, against our will, tens of millions of foreigners.

Now the question is, why have they done this? And by the way, we should say, not just let them in, but paid for them to come either overland through late america, through mexico, or southern, or by plane from the rest of world. American citizens paid for that.

Of course, when they arrived, they received the entire sweet of federal benefits, also at the expense of taxpayers. But the question remains, why? Why would you bring in this many people in such a short period against the law? Now, previous generations, the motive was really obvious.

Farmers, for example, wanted cheap labor. We needed the help. Or that was the argument anyway.

But notice making an argument now, because you can't make IT, there is no economic justification for bringing in tens of millions of people with lower than an average educational attainment and no modern skills. That's exactly what we've done because, of course, we don't need the help at all. We don't have a manufacturing sector.

Agriculture is largely automated. And of course, A I is about to render a lot of american workers obsolete as jobs that people do will now be done by machines. So there is no way to justify an economic grounds.

Mass immigration in twenty twenty four. So once again, why is this happening? And it's happening for political reasons, is happening because the democratic party has seized making the case for itself to americans.

And so in order to keep power, in fact, to expand their power and to preside over the one party state that they desire, they are going to need a brand new electorate. And this is their elector. Foreigners will choose your leaders.

You're not allowed to choose the leaders of foreign countries, but fownes will choose your leaders, including in this election, this twenty twenty four president. Actually, how that work? It's illegal. You say for illegal aliens to vote in a federal election will actually, it's not illegal. IT turns out congress passed something in the U.

S code, the federal code, a line that, unbeknown ns to the rest of us, makes IT illegal for illegal aliens to vote in federal elections if they believe they are citizens, is a state of mind. Did you know that we didn't know that? Most people didn't know that Katherine angle break just found this provision in the U.

S. code. That's the kind of thing he reads because she's the founder of true the vote and has been working on these issues for a few years now and he joins us to explain what she's found for you. Thank you so much for coming on.

Oh, thanks for having me.

So would you mind explaining what seems, at first blush, a very far fetched idea that the U. S. Code, as of right now, as our speaking, would allow illegal aliens to vote in the upcoming presidential?

How would that work? I true. The vote the orange zai founded some years ago has been long involved in looking at the accuracy of the voter roles, and we've long maintained that inaccurate voter roles lead to inaccurate elections.

So with that as a backdrop, we've been very concerned about the lack of availability to determine citizenship status, not just by groups like cars, but by states themselves. They can't they can't get close enough to a citizenships status database to make good determinations. That then let me to look a little deeper because as you rightly layout, there's a motivation here.

So what might that be? We've seen many, many videos of people coming across the border who are talking about their excitement about voting for a joe biden and claiming that they are citizens. But yet we hear debates in congress where the congressman will say, you can't, don't worry, non citizens can't vote.

It's it's a part of crime, of perjury. It's a felony. So okay, we took a deep look at the criminal code. And title eighteen left us just gobs maked.

Because when you read all the way through IT, as at lists all of the stipulations against non citizen voting in federal elections and lays out the penalties, therefore scroll all the way down to the fine print, and what you read is that citizen citizens can vote without penalty if at the time they are voting, they believe themselves to be U. S. Citizens.

well, I mean, that seems insane. I mean, i'm taking your word ford. I'm not a lawyer and expert in the federal code, but is there any other crime like if if, if I didn't show that, I didn't know I was Robin, a liquor story to gun on my hand, I was demanding money, but I didn't really think IT was robbery does shield me from being prosecuted for Robin. A little store matte.

Certainly not. But I will say that the state of mind idea is something that uh, we've come up against in the past related to domicile as we've done reviews of the voter roles. And you see people that are registered, but they're registered to vacant lots, they're registered to fast food restaurants and the the press, the press, you get back from the state as well. But you know, presidency is a state of mind. This takes that to an entirely different level.

And i'll tell you what i'm really concerned about, tucker, is that when we live through and we saw the landscape change, lawless ness take hold, we just we watched on the sidelines and said, surely this can't be what IT looks like this happening, surely this move to the mass mail baLance and on monitor drop boxes and and third party election workers that have no training to support all of the apps and flows of process, surely this can't be what's about to play out. And then when I did, you're left with scant few days to try to pick up the pieces and prove what really happened. I'm seeing this now play out in twenty twenty four on this issue much the same. And so it's my hope that we can aw americans to this problem and demand accountability before november so that we can decide if citizenship is truly a stay of mind.

So can I ask about the law itself, the code that you're referring to? Do you think that that suggests that the the foreigner because the proposition here is that we're allowing foreigners to choose our leaders, which is insane, of course, but is is the law written in such a way the that form will not be punished for voting in our elections? But will that vote account is that clear?

Well, it's a great question. But you know you you that mean the ballots are are anonymous once that ballet has been cast either by mae and it's been separated from the envelope with which is Carried to the central account. So you can't tell who voted if if that's that's been separated the on lot from the ballot and certainly buy a machine, you can't tell.

So no, there's no way there's no way to pull this back. It's why IT is critical that we get on the front side of this and have A A very national discussion about the tracks we're heading down. This is a very, very dangerous proposition, and I believe it's been kept quiet for such a time as this.

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So just to be clear, once foreign nationals, foreigners have voted in our elections, and I don't think we're not allowed to choose chinese president, are we? I don't think we are um but once their citizens choose, are along with citizens from countries all over the world there, once they vote, there's little nothing we can do. We have to look we live with live the .

outcome but live with the outcome and and then you good luck and trying to prove this because there the voter roles nationally are our joke I mean in private industry, all day, every day, private companies are resolving identity, residency and citizenship in real time. The data exists to do this. The technology exists to do this.

Mean, in my word, google knows every time my heart beats, data is there and available to track what you want to track. But yet the states are not given any access to databases that would help determine citizenship at scale. They are given some of a back door access to a data base called save.

Or you can check one one application at a time. It's just not a reasonable solution. So it's this is something that I truly believe we could wake up the day after the election and say what has just happened and there's no way to undo IT at that point.

We've got ta get ahead of IT. We've got to have this debate now. What does that mean to be a citizen is a truly a state of mind when IT comes to voting rights?

I mean, I don't think there's much of a debate there, right? I mean, I I can't imagine anyone would take in public anyway. They never defend their positions at all anyway.

But I don't think you could find a person. You could say, yes, a foreigner ought to be allowed to choose your leaders because he thinks he's a citizen. Would anyone make that? You .

wouldn't think so, but somebody didn't because it's our law. IT is entitle eighteen of the U. S.

Criminal code that says, point blank, if the alien reasonably believed at the time of voting in violation of the subsection that will the the code says if the alien reasonably believed at the time of voting that here he was a citizen of the united states, that they are subject to no prosecution. I've shown this to legislators. I've shown this code to immigration atterley, i've shown IT to our legal council.

And and they all just, they just look back with a blank stare like, how could this have been? But IT is, IT is quite literally the last stipulation in this section of code. So you've got ta read all the way down to the fine print. I just so happened to read IT. And this is where we find ourselves.

Is there any question that the overwhelming majority of illegal aliens are gonna democrats when they vote and they will vote yes?

I certainly see that the ngos and in the outfits that are bringing them across the country are glooming them for that purpose. A that that seems to be very apparent. They are they are immediately um given access to all manner of social service programs.

Those social service programs have as a as a portion of the application and automatic voter registration feature states aren't allowed to ask for citizenship proof of citizenship upon registration. I mean, this is layer upon layer upon this function. The by .

administration is register ing legal alien to vote when they get here.

They certainly are setting up all of the of the the place settings to do IT. They are register ing them for government sanctions programs like medicate, like affordable care act. They're giving them access to food stamps, lodging, uh, other welfare types of of programs.

All of those programs come with the with the application A A A opt out voter registration. So IT is IT is not at all beyond the realm of possibility. That is that is in fact exactly what's happening that non citizens are being registered.

States have no ability to stop IT. And if you are so fortunate as to find a way to prove this caught in the act, then you refer back to tide eighteen that says that was just a stayed in mind. So no harm, no fail, and IT will be too late.

I mean, to the election already seems rigged if we don't .

do something about IT, I believe that that's that's the going to be the likely outcome you I lived through IT in twenty twenty. So many was a thousand front war. There was so much that was happening, lawlessness, ss rained.

We are seeing the same type of engineer chaos today, but we have an opportunity to get ahead of IT. We just must demand IT. We must demand a transparent audit of voter roles to make sure that those who are registered meet the criteria for identity, residence, cy and citizenship.

Data exists to do that. Technology exists to do that. Totally, totally achievable. We must demand IT. Because this trap door, this threatens everything we know about our constitutional republic.

does seem like the systems ending. I don't wanted to end. But um this is shown nuts and if the people who administrate the system are intend on destroying IT, it's kind of hard to know. You know IT continues.

I I share your concern being this close to our election processes as I have been through true of the vote for this many years. IT does seem like the fix is in, but the american people are the reason for hope. There is there is nothing that we can do if we stick together and and press any given issue.

This is just one that, you know nobody seems to know about. Certainly, we didn't until just that too long ago. I have not talked about IT publicly until now because I wanted to make sure that I understood that what I was reading Carried the weight that IT seems to Carry. And i've not found anybody to dissuade me from this belief that is is troubling, is an understatement. Well, IT certainly is.

I don't have any more questions because i'm so bothered by way you just said, I hope you'll come back cathro's. C, thank you very much.

Thank you. Thanks for listings.

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