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We're Gucci | 7

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The episode begins with a light-hearted debate about whether Jello salad is a salad or a dessert, setting the stage for the more serious topic of categorizing and defining a mysterious illness.
  • Jello salad is both a salad and a dessert, depending on perspective.
  • Categorizing and defining a mystery illness becomes crucial for finding a cure.

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Previously on hysterically, I was like, my lawkins .

came up to me and she's like, stuttering, super bad and stop .

fucking around was like my father earth day, straight to doing that.

One got for everybody.

He basically said, I will tell in your head you're fine.

And Michael and crazy, is this really happening that does not fit, that doesn't land with me? That is not IT. I know it's not.

We breached the following question briefly at the very beginning of this series. But I feel like now this being our final episode, we have enough background knowledge to actually hazard a guess, the world of jello salad is IT a salad or is IT a dessert? no. Seriously, in the original joys of yellow cook book from one hundred and sixty three, which I own, shut up.

The water or salt is made with lemon or mixed fruit or orange pineal jail o sounds like dessert, and it's got apples in IT and one in IT desert, but he also has salary in IT and and vinegar salad IT also upsetters ly has main is on the salad, but the recipe says the mail is optional dessert. In the end, of course, its salad is desert. It's neither.

It's both on sleds, dealers, choice such states of in between this work for something like yellow, the stakes are gloriously low. But when a mystery illness is tearing through your town, settling on labels and and definitions takes on a little more import. We're not just trying to category our lives here.

We're looking to stop this thing from spreading, and we're looking for a cure. But how do you solve a mystery illness that no one can agree on? On today's episode? This is how IT ends and also, in a way, how IT never will. I'm done to burki from wondering and pineapple studios this is the conclusion of hysterical episode seven. We're gucci.

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I think I was one of the Youngest girls in the whole like group of everybody and everything.

You know, Emily, Emily was an eighth grade. And in the marching band, when this all happened and her tick started, hers were mostly a big jerk of the head and ARM.

So I kind of .

felt alone .

for the most part because.

like all the other girls were, like they were friends with each other and like they knew each other and everything. And I was like a one kind of alone in this. But like, I know i'm not alone, but i'm alone in this.

Did you think that this is how you are gonna forever now? Oh yeah, absolutely.

We I i'd walked home from school and I be like men. I'm never going to be able to drive because i'm doing this is the thing that struck me was just that there was no build up to her having tech IT was just like instant IT was like a switch had been flipped.

Remember Emily's mom, Cathy, was weirded out by the fact that almost everyone was going to the same doctors, the ones that don't neurologic institute nearby. SHE wasn't totally opposed to the idea of conversion disorder. SHE wasn't like anything but that, but there were so many voices in so many SHE didn't know who to believe .

that the thirteen year old daughter, Emily, started to take just two weeks ago.

So they did the TV thing looking for answers. That way they explore different doctors, different natural remedy were prescribed even a juice.

So, I mean, IT was juice that was one hundred percent natural. And we thought, I can't hurt. I still .

creep .

that juice.

Not a life was really good. Oh, all this time I take good.

didn't cut, trying there. No like right thing to do IT was just what's drive? That didn't work. Let's try this. That didn't work.

Let's try this until eventually .

we got a winner. Through this little network of all the parents talking to each other, I got connected with the mother of one of the girls, SHE said. We got in contact with this doctor from new jersey, new york city area.

dr.

Trifle.

dr, or razi o trial, is a pediatric neurologist and they said.

well, he's an expert on pandas.

panda P A N D A S. Pediatric autoimmune neuropsychiatric disorder associated with strip. With pandas, a child developed psychological and neurological symptoms after a lingering strip infection, symptoms that can include obsessive compulsive behaviors and turret like ticks.

It's rare and was only identified as an illness in one nine hundred and ninety eight. So still a lot of unknowns about pandas. But this new doctor seemed confident that I might be a match.

He's willing to travel here, truly right, to see these girls free of charge. And I thought, well, what's gonna hear? It's another actor is another opinion. Let's go for IT local .

neurologists to seen the lery teens believe they're suffering from conversion disorder, a psychological condition. Another specialist disagrees, and he has traveled to test the high scholars for a bacteria infection.

So in late january, at the height of the outbreak and the day after bob bocock and team broke of each exploded into town, dr. d. trifled.

dy. arrives. They probably pass each other in the street, and he beats with nine of the affected kids and their families.

including cafe. He kind of stat with us all together in a big group and was explaining what pandas is, why he thinks maybe there's a the connection there, he says. And i'd also like to do blood test, if you all agree to IT.

You know, now is, like kate make sense to me. Blood test sounds like a good idea. If is there is no infection in her bloodstream, then we can say, yeah, it's conversion disorder.

If there is an infection, then we can say at some know so it's like, let's tester. And I think IT was maybe less than a week later. We've got the results back that mi had evidence of walking nyoni.

A. Drifty makes a public announcement. He says he has found elevated levels of step antibodies in five out of the eight girls testing, and he found elevated levels of Michael plasma na monia antibodies in seven of the eight girls.

He couldn't quite call IT pandas as pandas is related to strip, and they found more than that. So based on his findings, trifled announced that he is ready to give this mystery illness a name, leos syndrome. Then he begins treatment.

and IT was steroid anti and flamingo, which was eyebrow proven. And I believe there was something to treat the infection like .

I I like an antibiotic .

and I don't remember one hundred percent on that one. But I remember I was heavy on the ibero phin and and the staid was one of those ones where you start heavy and taper off. And IT took her eleven days and the symptoms were gone.

No more sudden head drinks, no more flAiling arms, no more ticks.

And I thought, okay, when? how? What else? There's the proof. There's my evidence to me that was just like, I close the book on IT. This is what I was.

But let's take a beat for a man. Does all this makes sense after all this time? And all this grief could IT really be that simple? So pandas does not square with you.

I didn't pan out for my patience.

Yeah, doctor mazie than a ologies idt had already seen fourteen of the affected girls, and SHE says that he had already ruled out pandas.

Now I can't speak of the four that I didn't see, but when you look at the literature and you compare IT to evidence based medicine, absolutely did not fit with as those patients tonight.

Here's the first problem. The presence of trap anti bodies in and of itself doesn't mean pandas, in fact, test any random group of kids for strap or other lingering bacteria infections. And as many as half or more, we're gona come up with elevated levels, especially during winter, especially in a place like lei, where snowfall gets measured in feet and keeps everyone inside and jermy for months.

Also, unlike conversion disorder, penis is a disorder that appears overwhelmingly in boys, not girls. Also pandas, as a pediatric disorder that happens to children, all the known effective people in li were passed that stage. They were teenagers and a woman in her thirties. Also, pandas is not contagious. So as this is the correct diagnosis for what's happening in library, a non contagious, very rare disorder that occurs mostly in creepy beent boys.

even, let's say it's pandas, why is that all Young, healthy, previously healthy girls, they don't have auto immune disorders, don't have a weakened immune system for all of them to have IT concurrently at the same time in the same school? That's just logically like, let's just think about these people .

eventually trifled. He says he treated six of the girls based on his diagnosis, and he says all six saw improvement. Emily is cured completely. So here's the big question. IT trifled ties diagnosis is wrong. Why would the treatment for IT work? Well, some people suspect, okay, I suspect, I suspect that what triple city has to offer is not necessarily the right answer, but something maybe just as useful, an answer that's easier to believe.

You know, when something makes aha IT makes sense.

like this is alesha. You remember her SHE was one of the satellite cases that I popped up after SHE, in her soft team, passed through the right and they came down with symptoms. Alesha, too, went to see doctor trifle. See, I might.

on the same way with movie S, I might not remember the lines or scenes perfectly or at all, really have an awful memory, but I remember how things feel. That's like what I go by, like how I felt on the inside. That's what I can remember.

And when he saw terrifically.

I just remember feeling a little more at is just in his presence. I just felt little bit more edis and heard, and those maybe he optimistic to that he would have more answers.

which he did. I feel like he almost was like the voice of reason sometimes.

You know, Cathy describes .

a similar feeling what he said at IT just to me, that made sense IT just felt like. An answer and a possibility and if nothing else, I was like, at least at somebody who's like seem sincere and just for the fact that he traveled here, he's doing IT free of charge like that's that spoke to me that was like telling me that, hey, this is somebody who at lee seems concerned for their well being. So the anybody .

suggest that IT was the placement effect they are treated the pandas with with these things. But because he believed in IT, SHE got Better.

We did follow up blood work after, like a few few months later, and IT showed no infection in the blood. And I was like, okay, so no infection in her blood. No, tex.

I I see that as a connection. And there was just a lot of people that still insisted now its conversion disorder. And I said, i've got my answer like IT worked, so i'm not gonna dig anymore and even .

dark omc vega acknowledges the diagnosis. The cheese offering conversion disorder is almost more confusing than no answer at all, SHE says. SHE saw this play out in one of the families who were resisted conversion disorder, who really just .

didn't want to hear IT. So this family wanted there to be something more other than this is an emotional, social, emotional issue, and we need to do some internal introspections and coming and relaxation techniques. And felt like I was hockey.

You know that this wasn't january on my end, and there must be something medically, or someone to blame, or someone to sue. It's a hard thing to look itself. It's harder than blaming others.

I do you have to say, I just struck me as something that I can relate to, like to go to the doctor and you're having these things happen to you and for the doctor to look at you and just be like look itself like that's hard to .

hear because that's just more for teenager because .

that's just like a nightman .

when I was in. I don't know if I had I don't have the capacity to look at myself.

Tonight we have some news. Tea doctor drew, uh, some of the girls, apparently we ve got ten Better over the past three weeks. Some did have antibiotics.

And the question is, to what extent that they played a role here? Was this simply able or something else? What trial was really offering was an offering from all the craziness that had come to surrounding the mystery. We trying to ask trifled about all this. He in his office told us multiple times he won't talk about what happened in lian, even though it's gotta said headlines about his involvement are still splashed all over his website.

And I understand conversion disorder worked. IT was accurate for those other girls that I worked for, as long as they were satisfied with that answer. I D, that's fine.

That's fine for them. And then there was still the group that legitimately had this pandas like infection, and that was just happened to be the terrible, perfect storm of a situation. You know, they were in a little terim together. And this is what happens.

So in the end, it's mass psychogenic illness and it's literis sydney. It's a salad and a desert. It's neither.

It's both. It's dealers choice. But are we satisfied to just wallow jealousy dist thing and call IT a day? Not quite yet. There's one more literary girl I want you to hear from. This person never made IT into any of the news reports. You never saw her face on TV SHE never even caught the turrets like symptoms that had spread through the high school so ferocious ously because this person had already been dealing with terrence syndrome itself for years, and he ended up in the center of IT. all.

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You know, in the days of the which trials, they too had a way to solve an unsolvable mystery, an A B test that gave an answer every time when someone was accused of being a witch. And the question was issue, or isn't SHE some places would use a test called swimming the witch and IT simple.

They would tie you up and throw you in a pond if you flow your witch, if you think you're not a witch, you were tied up at the bottom of a pond now, but no one thinks you're which swimming, which was effective, not because I gave a rational answer, IT is, of course, craziness, but I did give them an answer no in between. And IT gave a town someone to pin all this unpleasant ness on some poor boy ant, which who they pull out of the water and perhaps hanging on a hill top nearby is at least one human instinct we can all recognise when it's too difficult to sit with the unanswerable. The next best thing is finding someone to blame.

I was first diagnosed when I was about eight years old. I had started this weird facial twitch thing, and, you know, we went to the doctor and he looked at me, and she's like, up that trust. Let's send you to narrow.

This is rose.

But looking back at IT now, knowing that information, we can notice ticks that I had as Young as, like two and three years old.

The development of roses ticks as a kid came gradually. It's a common marker for trends syndrome, as opposed to the sudden onset of the mystery illness library, other differences. You've gotta have multiple ticks for at least a year for IT to be considered to read. Also, torrez s occurs overwhelmingly in boys rather than girls, but not for rose. In two thousand and eleven, SHE had just entered eight grade at the rai high school.

I mean, I had always had very problem IT take from the time I was diagnosed, like I facial twitches, I would go through sports. Why would be throwing things? I was always very love, like, I always have very loud vocal text. You will always hear me. Everybody always knows who I am.

Can I ask you, how disruptive did you feel like when you say you were taking a test and you would like throw a pencil? Like did you feel like you were getting in other people's way?

I wasn't worried about being the weird kid that needed extra testing. I wasn't worried about being the weird kid on meds like everybody's weird kid for some reason. That was just my thing, and I was fine with that.

But then the arrival of the mystery illness, or as rose might have called, the attack of the clones.

like I can remember sitting in school and someone looked to me, was like, old, did you hear? Like, so and so caught your text and like, what the fucker are you're talking about? Like, I was just confused. I like, do, how would like? What do you mean somebody caught mine as I was?

In fact, you can actually catch terex. It's not that kind of disorder.

So yeah like to rests in itself is not vintage ous like I have two brothers, neither of them are taking. I'm not like I only be quarantine and low bubble like work around people's food everyday. Nobody says threads like we're good to but like threats can be suggested. Ve in the sense that when you're around other people that tick, you tend to tick more.

That's when rose says he became the target as the obvious source for .

all of IT because that was that if immediately, immediately IT was your contagious and all this stuff like right from .

day one who say.

I mean, at first that was the kids IT started which was the kids IT was oh, your contagious oh SHE caught IT from you all blab lab lah and i'm like, i'm just trying to go to school. Do IT. But like, nobody stood up and was like, hey, this isn't their fault.

Don't blame them. Like, not once did an adults say that's not how that works. This isn't their fault. Leave them alone. People were like yelling at me and grocery stores, like, like, and again, i'm fourteen grown, asked, man would walk up to me and scream at me for causing that in the middle of grocery store. Like, wow.

And then there was the hord. Li was the new date line.

And everyone was trying to solve the murder.

Cameras and reporters everywhere and approaching the girls outside the school.

And I just keep me like, this is not me, like, I am not a part of this. Let me alone. Like, the only thing I could really tell them was that I had threats and that wasn't contagious, and I didn't know what was going on and then they leave me alone after that because all you're not a medical mystery.

That's not what we want. Like, no, literally, that's what I was. As soon as I was like, I have a real answer for you. They were like, not, we're done. We're good.

And at the same time, the stresses of at all is making roses charretier worse, much, much worse.

So I had a tick where would punched myself right here in the face over and over and over over.

And like I was that.

like my tech was literally to, like cock myself. And it's like with force, not just like with force. So I had fractured part of my jaw line. And another one of my text, I have permanent damage in my right eye because my other tech was to punch myself in the eye. I was literally beating the ship out of myself.

Rose developed a kicking tick that was so severe SHE began coming to school in a wheelchair.

I had a tick for a little bit where I would slam my head off the table. I had to get set home. One day was like a gu sag on my forehead because I would fly being my head on the people.

And I was going through that. Well, all of this was going on. Well, all of the other take stuff was happening. That was all starting for me.

And that's when roses of the school took action.

And so the school was like when none of the other other girls take when rosses and around because she's not there to start IT. So they pulled me out of all my classes, and I was doing all of my classes in the sound booth for the auditorium like, IT was like, this little like closet, like saying, and we'd go to my class. I'd get my class work, and then I go sit there and do my class work so that none of the other could hear me.

So you go gay your last work, and then you go sit and sound proof audio, yes.

And do you work? yes. I was like, you guys are alienating me for something. I've been diagnosed with something you know about.

And I don't have what they have, and I have IT caused what they have. You, I remember being told the needs of the money out way, the needs of the few. And right now you are the few.

I was told that by an adult at the race central school, distract. And I just room. Okay, all right, that sucks. I guess, like, that sucks. What do you .

do at that? You go home and cry about .

IT and then go to school the next day. You know, I took that one on the chin. I just kind of said, you know what? Okay.

hurt. wow. Needs of the many needs of the few. You know who coined that phrase? Carl Marks ft. R you proceed from a false assumption I am about ken IT was mother fucking. Spoke to James t.

Kirk on the starship enterprise, star trek two, the wrath of con in any case, we're I to win both logic. Logic clearly dictate tes that the needs of the many out with the needs of the few. It's a harsh logic.

But hey, Sparks, a harsh guy with harsh banks. But more than that, he's a logic guy. He's the logic guy that this whole bit. But is that the logic we're going with in this situation?

The one girl who actually has a diagnosis, a diagnosis that isn't masago iciness, and she's the one we put in the audio booth all day, that the fact or padded sale is logic, even the thing to be grasping for here at all. Did you feel like masses, stereo? IT makes sense to me.

IT makes sense to me. I like, I don't think, like, I know I wasn't contagious. I know I wasn't bad tampons. I know I wasn't yuki water, but I didn't necessarily know what IT was. And I knew that I wasn't my job a problem to figure out. And I knew that the reason everything was such a shitty show was because everybody decided they were detective and trying to figure IT out, instead of letting the people that knew what they were doing trying handle IT, you know, had everyone stepped away from the beginning and let the professionals try to figure this out, I don't think I would have gotten as bad as I did.

It's probably the most frustrating paradox about mass pa gena illness IT seems the harder we try to figure IT out, the reporters, the soil tests, the town meetings, the pontificating, the rock of itching, the worst the outbreak gets. I'm not sure there's a way around IT. If that were apparent, i'm sure i'd be transacting the mae clinic looking for an answer.

But IT really does seem to be the thing that puts the hysteria. A in mashie rea, we tried to talk to the school about what happened to rose, I am about any of how they reacted. When the mystery inness showed up in the right, they declined. And so in terms of what the truth of what happened ten years ago. You're still .

not sure i'm not and I I don't ask IT is IT was .

its done?

I have nut and toa frog will of that, and tones of dog. I gonna get where they used to blame witchcraft for events like the one that happened in the ruine. It's contagious, it's unexplainable, and it's scary as hell.

All things that bring out the worst in us IT feeds off our attention and yet it's totally impossible to ignore. It's not hard to imagine some which, behind a tree laughing or asa, which Frankly, we would have had coming after the whole pond thing. But there's another quality to IT. It's one that hard to acknowledge when were in the throws of an outbreak. When the stakes are a bit lower, it's easier to spot.

Anyone's speak french.

No worries.

What's about to happen runs .

deeper than language.

nice. see.

Let's let you, bob. It's a french talk show, Candy coloured said studio audience, perky host panel of guests and the topic of today show .

people with unusual laughs.

Like that one, everyone on the panel has some sort of bizarre laugh. There's another one unleashed by a panels after hearing that weird one before IT. And maybe you can guess how all this is gonna evolve.

People have genuinely lost control, even the host helpless. I still laugh every time I watch IT across time and space and screens. Maybe you're laughing too, a contagion.

Of all the meanings of the word we've explored, this is my favorite hydrogen. Yet how the contagion here is almost magical, even if we can't quite fathom why our minds tether themselves together like this, and why do IT feels so good. I've come to see that it's no less magical when, instead of a laugh, it's a symptom at a stress call of sorts, sent out by one person and picked up by another who doesn't just mic IT.

But experience is IT themselves. And then another and another, a human chain connecting each to something larger. A couple of years ago, at a sheep farm in inner mongolia, several sheep began doing something strange.

They begin walking in a circle, not walking around the edges of their pens, so that IT looks like a circle. They're actually walking in a perfect circle, and they don't stop soon. They're joined by more sheep and more sheep to there are hundreds of them circling like pilgrims around a holy shrine for twelve days straight.

Experts have theories as to why, but no pat answers. It's a mystery. In one thousand nine hundred eighty seven, a female orca is spotted off the coast of washington state, swimming around with a dead salmon on her head, wearing IT like a hat.

why? You had to ask curr. But soon the behavior spreads to other orcus in her pod and to other whales in other part nearby, all swiming around wearing fish like hats.

IT goes on like this for about six weeks, and then they all just stopped. No more salmon hats. No one knows why these kinds of things, these uncanny, unexplainable connections, they occur in the natural world all the time. And we are part of that natural world. And apologies to spack, but forcing rationality can sometimes be the most irrational thing to do.

So, like I volunteered to red synergy camp every summer. yeah. And I love IT. IT is one of the best things .

I do with my life.

Case in point rose every year, so amazing, but we all take so much more because we're .

all taking feel. All I love IT. Like we said, touch is suggested. One, taking person, being around another can make the symptoms worse for both. Now imagine dozens and dozens of .

them camp like a lot of times the first time there around somebody else that has that. And so they just go home and it's the funniest thing.

But but instead of resisting, they just let that happen. They don't hold back.

IT is so worth every second of IT because you are having the best time you are around your people. And the other thing is they're something called tick shopping that's the actually in for IT and you can pick up other people's ticks.

They're not just aggravating each other symptoms. They're sharing them, passing them back and forth unconsciously. There's still so much about turrets that's unknown, but these kids are able to revel in the mystery of IT, even if only for one humid budgie. Wonderful weekend in the summer.

So I always have to take like the day after camp off because i'll come home with god knows what takes doing what like it's it's but it's like the best feeling ever. IT is the best feeling ever.

The line between contagion and connection is a thin one, sometimes barely there at all.

Eventually, the mystery, illness and leery followed the pattern of many mass psychogenic illness is over the centuries. IT flared up. They cost travel, and IT faded away. IT died down. In part IT seems because the attention died down.

The T, V, appearances dried up, the camera, cruse tipped, told away the headlines, got smaller, almost starving hysteria from getting the attention that needs to survive at the height of the doctor. Mic viga in our colleagues even asked the T V stations to stop showing video of the girl's taking on the air, because that was potentially how I was spreading. A couple of local stations actually did. Doctor drew did not. And in the spring, many of the affected kids began to improve, some with doctor triple, more with doctor mavy gue.

So the the kids that started to get Better, there were something they got Better right away and honestly do not want to be involved with anything at all like they were out, they were done. Um respect did .

I get did I wonder if if the media of the crazy iss I and there .

was a and for that happened as time passed.

IT also became clear that in some of the individual cases there seem to be more stress and trauma than many of the girls have been willing to let on, especially on national T V.

And there was a lot of stuff that evolved at that point in time that was not revealed to me about stresses they had in their life, that now in the event was over or ending, that they actually felt like they had internal permission to tell me, oh, by the way, you know, I was struggling with my actual identity or, oh, by the way, I had this international family, family conflict. Or, oh, by the way, this happened at school and someone accused me of this, and I was pretty profound and know is like, wow, that that would have helped me in the mist of this crisis to understand where you're coming from.

Even doctor trifled, the panda's doctor from new jersey, even he was surprised when told by times reporter Susan dominus about some of these traumatic situations. Trifle said, quote, gees and IT realized the extent I don't know, maybe i'm wrong. It's hard to distinguish between the drug and the placebo effect.

As far as what I believe happened, I believe it's impossible to say what each individual girl experienced. Each one really did have their own symptoms, their own co mobilize, their own aggravating circumstances. But as a group, as a town, as a collective, I think IT was master rea, a mass psychogenic illness, and among the worst of kinds to affect so many with such prominent symptoms for such a sustained period of time. That's not an accusation. It's an acknowledged that, yes, something truly scary happened in liver in new york, but also something truly remarkable.

By the time graduation arrived and summer break was upon them, finally the sickness was all but gone from leverage. Junior or senior high school. The year book makes no mention of how jack that whole year become.

And that letter board sign in town at the church that just a few months earlier, red, we're praying for our levi high school girls. Its letters got rearranged. Now I said, li, still a great place to live.

Better. I feel yeah, yeah, I feel Better.

Emily symptoms went away, but the memory of them and of that time still loomed large in our mind.

Your take no. And I think I think about IT.

I'm like I do because I .

still think about to the day I am like this just like came in one almost like a season, basically like a like, almost like a netflix season like you got nine episode de, here you go run with that. How can I still don't do this? Like what did we do? Like how am I my fixed? Am I gonna something going to happen? I'm going to hear some noise and that's going to set me off. Is just so still kind of like question mark?

Number one, I don't have conversion disorder. I never did.

Alicia also rejected conversion disorder. SHE accepted trifled his diagnosis, but only is one part of a larger series health problems that he is dealing with. Last year, SHE got her masters and social work and now advocates for kids with autism.

I absolutely love IT. Oh yeah. Because there are another population that's often dismissed and not heard and not advocated for and don't get the services and treatment that they deserve. People last meantime, I like, well, do you wish ouldn't to have IT? I am like, I can't .

father that way. Yeah yeah. Rose, of course, never had IT at all, but he still has turrets and he still mostly okay with them.

Like other times, I could wish I could just shut the help up. Like, yeah, do I miss the movie? There's absolutely.

But like, I think i'm good. Like, because I would I would just feel funny. I would just be weird to just be still and quiet. I can't that doesn't doesn't quick .

in my head. Rose still sees dc vig to help manage IT and it's just .

so funny now to be on the adult side of IT but still seeing her to be able to look back me like Brown, 带 个 手机。 You know.

in the end, the only person we talk to who really embraced conversion disorder, marge, the thirty six year old nurse and mother.

I went through the cognitive behavior therapy, and I did the work, and I saw three times a week for for what felt .

like forever. And as for why it's more common among women than men.

I don't know why it's mostly women, but it's why are there are more male serial killers than female serial killers?

Well, shit. March left her job and health care and now works in sales online. SHE sells, appropriately enough, vibrators.

It's not just vibrators, i'm telling. We have an excEllent line of bath products. You are beautiful for a morning tonight. I will give you, I will give you my card.

Can I help .

out historical women other than seven? A great vibrator.

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