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“THE DOPPELGANGER MANSLAUGHTER CASE OF TWO WILLIAM WESTS” and More Freaky True Tales! #WeirdDarkness

2024/12/10
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1903年,堪萨斯州利文沃思联邦监狱发生了一起离奇的案件:一名因过失杀人罪被判刑的威廉·韦斯特入狱后,却被告知他已经在狱中服无期徒刑,罪名是一级谋杀。狱方发现,这名新入狱的威廉·韦斯特与已服刑的威廉·韦斯特长得一模一样,体格测量数据几乎完全一致。这起案件暴露了当时广泛使用的贝蒂隆系统的缺陷,即仅依靠人体测量数据进行身份识别容易出现错误。最终,指纹识别技术成功区分了两人,这起案件也促进了指纹识别技术的应用和推广。该案例说明了在身份识别领域,指纹识别技术相较于贝蒂隆系统等传统方法的优越性,也凸显了科技进步对司法实践的重要意义。

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Key Insights

Why did the case of William West and William West highlight the limitations of the Bertillon system?

The Bertillon system, which relied on body measurements and photographs, failed to distinguish between two men named William West who looked identical and had nearly identical measurements. This case demonstrated the need for a more reliable identification method, leading to the adoption of fingerprinting.

What was the punishment for Dorothy Talby, and why was it considered severe?

Dorothy Talby was hanged for killing her three-year-old daughter. Her punishment was severe because, in the 17th century, women were believed to be more easily influenced by Satan and witchcraft, and her refusal to cooperate with the court was seen as evidence of her demonic possession.

What evidence suggests that time travel might have occurred in the case of the Norwegian mayor's sealed package?

The package, sealed in 1912, contained newspapers dated 1914, which were not supposed to exist at the time. Experts confirmed the envelope had never been opened since 1912, suggesting the mayor may have obtained the newspapers from the future.

How did the Morrigan, an Irish war goddess, use shapeshifting in mythology?

The Morrigan could transform into various animals, such as a crow or an eel, and even into an attractive woman. She used these transformations to influence battles and seek revenge on her enemies, such as Cú Chulainn, whom she tried to defeat through her shape-shifting abilities.

What is the legend of the Selkie in Scottish folklore?

Selkies are seal-like beings that can transform into humans by removing their seal skin. Female selkies often become trapped in human relationships when their skin is stolen, forcing them to live on land. If they recover their skin, they return to the sea, abandoning their human lives and families.

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The story explores the case of two men named William West, who were nearly identical and both incarcerated in Leavenworth Penitentiary. This case highlighted the limitations of the Bertillon identification system and the eventual adoption of fingerprinting.
  • Two men with the same name and nearly identical physical characteristics were both imprisoned in Leavenworth.
  • The Bertillon system, which relied on body measurements, failed to distinguish between them.
  • Fingerprinting technology successfully identified the two individuals.
  • This case played a pivotal role in promoting the use of fingerprinting in criminal identification.

Shownotes Transcript

Darkness Syndicate members get the ad-free version. https://weirddarkness.com/syndicate)Info on the next LIVE SCREAM event. https://weirddarkness.com/LiveScream)IN THIS EPISODE: How do you convince people you are innocent of a crime committed by someone who looks exactly like you and even shares your name? It’s the strange story of William West and… William West. (Will The Real William West Please Step Forward) *** In November 1638, Dorothy Talby killed her three-year-old daughter. She admitted so when first arrested. But then she refused to say anything when brought before a judge. But then, what would you expect from a woman, which we all know is more easily persuaded by Satan to sin – and women were much more likely to be seduced by witchcraft. At least, that’s what people believed in the 17th century. (The Case of Dorothy Talbye) *** It’s understood and agreed to by most that while it is a lot of fun to think about, time travel is simply not possible – and will probably never be seeing as we’ve never met any time travelers. Or… maybe we have? (True Time-Travel Moments) *** Stories of shapeshifters seem to be told worldwide – and the Celtic nations are no different. We’ll look at a few shape-changing creatures from Ireland, Wales and Scotland. (Shape-Shifters Of The Celts)CHAPTERS & TIME STAMPS (All Times Approximate)…00:00:00.000 = Disclaimer and Cold Open00:02:15.909 = Show Intro00:04:40.884 = Will The Real William West Please Step Forward00:20:21.579 = The Case of Dorothy Talbye00:27:38.611 = True Time-Travel Moments00:37:01.768 = Listener story from Jeremiah, “Cold Hands”00:43:05.694 = Shapeshifter of the Celts00:51:41.571 = Show CloseSOURCES AND REFERENCES FROM THE EPISODE…“Will The Real William West Please Step Forward?” by Dean Jobb for Ellery Queen Mystery Magazine (https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/5y8wybsa)), Martin Chalakoski for The Vintage News (https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/th4ujesh)), and Lee Ferran for ABC News (https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/sa66vcwf))“The Case of Dorothy Talbye” by Romeo Vitelli for Providentia: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/yu54cyn8)“True Time-Travel Moments” posted at Earth-Chronicles.com: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/hh8tbwcr)“Shape-Shifters Of The Celts” by Zteve T. Evans for FolkloreThursday.com: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/3m53e2h8)Weird Darkness theme by Alibi Music Library. = = = = =(Over time links seen above may become invalid, disappear, or have different content. I always make sure to give authors credit for the material I use whenever possible. If I somehow overlooked doing so for a story, or if a credit is incorrect, please let me know and I will rectify it in these show notes immediately. Some links included above may benefit me financially through qualifying purchases.)= = = = ="I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness." — John 12:46= = = = =WeirdDarkness® is a registered trademark. Copyright ©2024, Weird Darkness.= = = = =Originally aired: May 12, 2021CUSTOM LANDING PAGE: https://weirddarkness.com/WilliamWest