OLIVIA POLING | ED past, how you know you need help, & being a celebrity trainer
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What's up guys, it's Sam and Taylor. And we want you to put your shoes on, pop open that energy drink, and go. Hey guys, it's Sam. And I'm Taylor, welcome back to another episode. This is pretty exciting because if you guys are up to date with my Instagram, you know your girl finally got her puppy. Yeah, we have a little nugget running around. So crazy guys, he's so little and so cute and he's been such a good boy. Literally the best boy. He doesn't bark, flippin'.

First night was a little rough with him in the crate, but I feel like going into tonight He'll be a little bit better. I hope not as much whining and crying He's literally at our feet like as we're speaking right now. I'm like looking down at him He's a French bulldog - if you guys want like a reference obviously if you haven't seen my Instagram photo go check it out because I took a nice selfie with him Yeah, it's so crazy this whole recording. He's just chilling on Sam's lap. He didn't make a sound. He didn't cause any problems and

And now we have something to keep us occupied because it's like an ice storm. Yeah. Nothing compared to what Sam goes to, but me, I'm a little bit like, what the hell? Like there's literal snow. It's crazy. I was like, oh my God, you can like make a snowball over there. I was like, freaky. And it's like just enough that in some parts, sometimes you could maybe pick it up. Like it's really not that much, but you can't really drive. So everything's closed. Really weird. But yeah,

We have a dog. Yeah. And now our split has, I guess, thrown off a little bit this week because we didn't go to the gym on today, Thursday, and now we're going to probably work out on Sunday, which we don't usually do that. Yeah, but whatever. Got to do what you got to do. I literally, so it's Thursday right now for us. I took pre-workout in the car, and then we got to the gym, and it was closed. And we thought, you know, the gold's in downtown. You know, it's inside. It's...

Like, you know, if you live in downtown, you could walk there. Like, it's not that big of a deal. Nope, closed. Yeah, no, that was unfortunate. Because we don't even like to work out at Gold's in general. The only reason we really wanted to go there was because we, like, I trust myself driving in snow, but I don't trust other people driving in snow. And, like, I've heard really bad things about, like, pileups on, like, the Texas highways and stuff. So in order to get to Big Tex or Lyft ATX, it's a little bit of a longer drive. So we were like, we'll just go downtown. Well, Lyft was just closed.

Yeah, that too. But Big Tex is like 15 minutes on the highway. And that's too risky, too much. Too far for just a workout. It's not worth it. So stay home if you can. But the roads were empty. We went to the grocery store. That's the only place we went. Because the grocery store is like, I mean, it's off the highway by like 100 feet. It's like the first freaking exit. So we're like, okay, we'll go to the grocery store.

And there was no, not a soul. Yeah, it was pretty nice, honestly. I was like, oh, you guys don't want to be on the roads. I'll be on the roads. Yeah. So we're just chilling, kind of cold, but we have a puppy. So we get to sit around and play with him.

do all that. He's, I can feel him right now at my feet trying to bite the chair. Yeah. So he teeths a little bit, but not much. Yeah. And he's not that bad. He's so small. So I'm an, I'm a dog aunt officially. Super cool. Yeah, no, it's so weird. It's such a weird like concept because I'm so used to, I've grown up with dogs my entire life, but now like he's my full responsibility. Like it's not just like partial, like my parents can do something here and there. Like, no, I am fully a dog mom.

Yeah, it's really cute. It's really fun. His name is Macro, by the way. Oh, yeah. We didn't say that. I should have said that. Damn, my bad. Yeah, I just realized we didn't say that. His name is Macro. Macro, my cute little guy. So that's basically the only thing different this week is that Sam got a dog. Yeah. That's pretty much it. And this episode is already super long and tons of info, so we don't need to keep you waiting by any means. You just need to get right into listening to it and listen to the whole thing. We go through so much. It was such a good one.

We talked with Olivia Pauling. She's a gem. Literally a gem. She's the sweetest. Sweetest soul, yeah. Took the words out of my mouth. Yeah, so no reason to hold you up. Listen to the episode. Okay, bye. Hello, guys. Now we're here with Olivia.

So if Olivia, do you want to like introduce yourself? Yeah, sure. Absolutely. My name is Olivia Poling and I am a personal trainer out in Los Angeles. I'm originally from Columbus, Ohio. I'm 21 years old and I also do social media. Awesome. When did you discover her? In the beginning. I feel like I followed you a while ago. I followed Taylor for a while because like I

I found you first. I found you, Taylor, first, because I don't know. I don't know how I found it. It was maybe through Nikki or something like that. She might have reposted you. And then I saw your TikToks and then it kind of clicked. I was like, oh, my gosh. Yeah, I know where I know this girl from. And then obviously Sam and Nicole. Yeah. Mine's more recent with you. Like I knew you followed me, but I followed you like more recently. But I forget what it was that caused me to follow you. I think it was like those damn blue sneakers or something. I can't remember what it was. Yes, it was something like that.

It was just something I guess saw you tagged me in one of your posts and I saw the post and I was like, oh, I got to follow this girl. Like she's so cool. No, it was so funny because we bonded over like my blue blazers that I have. Yeah, we were. I was like, oh, you're like the blue blazers. Like, oh, you get it. You know, I understand. I got I actually got a pair of like Nike dunks literally two days ago because I inspired them.

Oh my God. The blue ones. Yeah. The blue and white ones. I got those for Christmas. They're so I, I, they're like, I cannot wear them because I'm just like so scared, but I like love them so much. I'm like so scared to get them dirty. And like, they're just like beautiful. I'm like a sneaker head now. I get so many sneakers. Same. Me too. Me too.

um what was I gonna say so yeah that's that and then we met in LA for the first time you can watch our LA vlogs did you vlog that day I didn't vlog that day you guys you inspired me that day I literally went home I just ordered a camera it just got here today like just got delivered oh yeah I love that I got like I got like a brand new camera because I used to do YouTube like ages ago like I used to do YouTube like three years ago and I would do like

religiously, like once a week, whatever. And I had like a shitty little like tiny camera and I was using it. And honestly, I still have the same camera, but it's so crazy because I'm so uninspired to do it when I like record all this footage. And then the footage like sucks. I'm just like, oh, I just don't even want to edit it. So I went to zoo culture with you guys like a week ago, two weeks ago. And I was like, oh my God, I need to get a new camera. So I just did it. And I

I'm super excited because I'm going to start filming more YouTube videos again, which would be really fun because I like love that stuff. I love it. It's so fun. Yeah, I feel like that definitely helps too. A lot of people have definitely said the same thing. Like when we were in LA last week, a lot of other girls were like, I need to get better at YouTube. I need to do it more because it's like when you're surrounding yourself with other people that do it,

Yeah. It makes you want to do it even more. And it's like inspiring. It makes it feel like you don't feel awkward pulling out a camera in front of other people that maybe don't use a camera. Exactly. And they also like get it and understand, and there's no like need for an explanation or like, you don't have to like, Hey, I'm sorry. Like, can I film in here? Is it okay if I film with you? Like, you don't have to ask anything. Like you can just kind of go ahead and do whatever you're going to do. I know. Yeah. It was, it was funny when we were in

um when we went to irwan when we all pulled out our cameras oh yeah yes or we ate like we all instantly knew we were like okay phone eats first yes literally it's like every everybody understands everybody knows there's no like preface which is so nice exactly i literally so living in la it's so crazy because i was looking for this one specific camera that was like the new sony camera but it's like the new like vlogging camera specifically i guess that has like

an external microphone has like a super nice lens. And I went to like two different Best Buy's and they both were like, sorry, like they're completely sold out. So I literally had to order mine from like another city in California. Cause like, I was like, that just goes to show like everyone here like literally uses cameras all the time. It's crazy. But even without YouTube, I mean, we'll get into like kind of what you like mainly do because I mean, you're so busy and like so successful. I'm like, you don't even...

You don't even need to do YouTube if you don't want to. I just, yeah. And I think that's the thing is like, it's always just been something I like love to do, but it's not really like say like my job. And it's so funny because I think that sometimes it can get misconstrued. Like that's what my job is. And it's definitely not like, it's really something I do for fun and like,

really the community this is like telling someone the other day like the community is like really what draws me to this crowd is because it's just such a cool way to meet really awesome girls and like really awesome people and have really cool opportunities and like I just really love that about it which is like the main reason that I do it you mean because it's like a really cool community to be part of I think yeah yeah agreed

Yeah. And that's what we say to girls that want to do social media. We're like, do it for the like mental benefit of like having somewhere to like, you know, share your story, do it for the people you're going to do it. You're going to meet, do it for the opportunity. Don't do it for like money. Yeah. Yeah. Right.

Okay. So we should, let's hop into like the juicy stuff. Let's do it. Let's do it. So like your fitness journey, do you want to give us like a rundown kind of like where it started to how you got where you are now? Totally. I think my fitness journey has been so weird because like, it's really been through a lot of like ups and downs for me. Like I,

originally, so I grew up a dancer. I grew up doing ballet and doing like everything under the sun for dance. And I mainly grew up a ballerina and I also did musical theater. So like I was on stage a lot. Like I was really around a lot of,

Just like I was in the mirror constantly, always like in tights and guitars. And I was just always performing. And when I started getting into fitness, I started working out at this bodybuilding gym in Columbus, Ohio, where I'm from. And this bodybuilding gym is actually real cool. It was started by Arnold Schwarzenegger and his like friends essentially. And

So it's really cool. I had no idea when I started working out there, but my dad is super into working out, super into training. And so is my brother. So I was going to this like strength and conditioning coaching class that was like for kids who were doing like wrestling and boxing.

football and basketball. And I was the only girl and I was kind of forced to go because my dad was like, it's so fun. And we were doing things like there is like plyometric stuff. It was like, they were like jumping over benches. And like, I was, I was like, what is this? And I hated it so much. I thought it was the worst thing ever. I was like, why does anyone want to work out? Like, this is just terrible. But then I eventually started getting really into it.

And right around a year or two of like me doing that, I developed a pretty severe eating disorder, like pretty, pretty bad. I just became like trigger warning for anybody, I guess at this point, but like, I became pretty obsessed with like food, I became really obsessed with like

just not even being super thin, but like kind of creating this like game in my head of like, how, how far can I push this? Like, how far can I go? Cause I think for me, I kind of was semi aware that I was doing it, but I also was at a huge portion of denial where I didn't want to accept anything less than what I was doing. Like, I didn't want to be any bigger than I was, but I knew that it was wrong. If it makes any sense. I knew that what I was doing, do you know what I mean? Where it's like, I knew like,

Sorry to interrupt, but like when I was struggling with my eating disorder, like the biggest thing was denial. Like I was like, what I'm doing is so healthy. If anyone tries to tell me otherwise, like they're in the complete wrong and I will get mad at them for it. Exactly. And I think that was really what it was. It's like this like very blatant, like almost like agitated denial where if anyone was like, hey, you look a little too skinny. I'd be like, no, I don't. And even I was so defensive about the way I was looking.

And the way I was like kind of constructing my health and fitness, quote unquote journey, I guess. And I mean, it was never like numbers for me. It was always just more like small portion sizes, like going to the gym, doing an hour of cardio, like not eating enough, not sleeping. And I mean, it was like to the point where my hair was falling out. Like it was like really, really bad. Eventually I began to realize like,

this is not good for me. And like, I kind of over time, like had it click for me where I was like, this is just like, I can't live like this anymore. And I think my personal realization, which is like the question I get a lot is I realized if I want to have children, if I want to have like a

a life, I guess, eventually one day that I cannot do this for the rest of my life. Cause I think I was quasi aware or semi aware of the fact that I was really hurting myself. And so I remember I told my mom and I told her I wanted to go to therapy and, you know, so I went into therapy and was talking about it and I learned, I got diagnosed with anxiety and OCD. So the OCD like kind of fed the eating disorder for a lot of the time and the anxiety and stuff. So

I started reverse dieting. After that, I started using MyFitnessPal. I had never used MyFitnessPal before, but I started using it to reverse diet and all that stuff. And I personally loved it. I thought that MyFitnessPal was so helpful for me. And I really didn't know like what reverse dieting was when I was doing it. I just had like kind of seen it around in the space and I

was like, Oh, that probably would work for me to like, you know, get better and to be more like in the fitness realm. So I started kind of doing that, but I wasn't talking about it openly on social media. And I slowly just started to like increase my calories each week, I slowly start to eat more carbs, I slowly started to like, have everything click where it was like, Oh my gosh, if I eat, you know, close to 2000 calories a day versus like 1000, you know, my body, like

like responds well, like I can work out harder. I can, you know, be more active. I feel better. You know, my hair is growing. Like I, like my skin looks better. So it was just a lot of like small things that seem so like they would make complete sense if you just hold anyone. But to me, they just, I did not like understand it at all when. Yeah. And so I then kind of went through recovery and then I came out here. So I moved out here.

like a year or so after that, and I was working at Dog Pound.

And the craziest part about that was when I went through my eating disorder, I don't know if Sam, you felt the same way or Taylor or anything, but like when you have struggles with eating or you have struggles with body image or body dysmorphia, I didn't understand what I looked like. Like I did not think about anything that I looked like ever. So I wasn't like, I want my butt to look like this. I never thought that. So when I came, I remember one of the trainers was like talking to like, Oh, Olivia, you have such a great butt. And I was like,

what? And I did not understand that people wanted to look a certain way. I didn't get that. I was more like, I like to work out because it's my mental space to go and like to do my, to do my thing, but I did not have any awareness of what I actually looked like. And so it was so weird because then when you come to places like Los Angeles, where everybody's super aware of what they look like, I was, it was so different. So I

Then I started working out, you know, kind of, I started getting into weightlifting more. I started kind of like doing more stuff. And then, you know, there also, it was a requirement for all the trainers to learn how to box. So I got super, super into boxing. So I was like super into boxing, was boxing there like three times a week, like doing lots of stuff with that. But I was training like

10 hours a day. I mean, I w I was in the gym, like, like a turning over clients all day. And it was just, I had never been more exhausted in my entire life. And so my training kind of like was kind of just kind of keeping me like on maintenance, I guess at that point, then COVID, I guess COVID hit and I kind of took another bump with my fitness because I

I went to Napa and like, just obviously things were hard. So I was like drinking and I was like eating more than I usually was. And I honestly think that the heaviest I've ever been was during COVID. And I didn't even realize it until this summer when I was working out more consistently and harder. And I looked at pictures of myself from COVID. I was like, wow, like I didn't even notice that I, you know, either gained body fat or I like, it's just, it wasn't the same.

And so I guess where I'm at now to bring everybody up to speed is like, right now I'm really trying to put on more muscle and I'm really trying to be aware of like, you know, I look, this is my height. This is my frame. Like, how am I, how am I going to build muscle on my body? How does that work for me? Cause I think that I've never really been able to grapple with that. I guess I've never really devout like devouted time to that. So right now I'm really, really trying to be aware and I'm counting macros again, but

I'm really trying to kind of put that together. And I work out with a lot of heavier weights now. I'm the strongest I've ever been. I've never been stronger now. So it's great, but I mean, it's good now. So I guess that's like my whole journey. It's kind of like, yeah, no, I, yeah.

In a way, I can definitely relate to it. Like when you going back to like the part where you said you kind of, it just clicked for you one day when you just like woke up and you're like, holy shit, like things need to change. I went through that same thing. I don't know what it was or how it happened, but I think one of the biggest parts that went into it was slowly without even knowing it, educating myself. I was following like creators online that were super educational. Maybe nowadays listening to podcasts or, you

what did we do back then? I don't even know. Like I don't. Yeah. It was on social media. It helps so much. It helps so much. And that's really why I post about it because the same thing, Sam, like I remember seeing girls talk about how they felt when they had their eating disorder. And I realized I was like, I feel that way now. Why is that wrong? And I just did, I just didn't understand. And I think that mental health, especially when it relates to

when it's kind of like masked in fitness and in health and stuff, it kind of can take a longer time for people to notice it. So I think that sometimes until it gets really, really bad. So

I think that for me, like you said, like social media, like really helped save my life. So I was like, I really want to help, you know, contribute to this part of the space to kind of help girls recognize that they have a problem. You mean? I know. Yeah. And like, I, I'm always getting DMS too, as well about like advice with it. And it's like for advice for somebody say like someone had a friend and they were struggling and they wanted to help that friend going back to the part where you said, Oh,

You were constantly in denial. Like I was the same way. Like if someone were to tell me what I was doing was wrong. So my biggest advice, if anyone has a friend that is struggling right now,

My biggest advice for you is they're probably gonna be in denial about it. Just, you know, hint at them to follow a specific creator that you really love on social media. And that may help you because for me, that's what it was. Obviously, Olivia, you said the same thing. I'm sure Taylor. Yeah. Yeah. And I definitely in high school, one of my closest friends at the time, she was very in denial, extremely in denial. And I was for a little bit. And I think what a lot of girls in my high school, actually, the mentality that it was was,

was like we were like it's okay like I'm aware of it and I know it's only for a short time like I'm fine without realizing that like that like short time or like those habits are gonna stick with you for a while and they're gonna be very hard to get out of like me being like oh because I was very into wanting to model and like in my head oh me too that was my thing yeah I'm like okay well I'm just gonna like get really skinny but like it's fine because I'm like

I'm aware, like, I know this is bad, but it's okay. Cause I'll just stop one day. And it didn't take that. It took me finding, it was Natasha Oceane who I'll say like forever saved my life literally because I saw a girl just being strong as hell and like eating like 3000 calories and being so lean and diced. And I was like, whoa.

yeah I was like wait a second this just changed the game I was like she's so healthy and strong and fuck being a model I want to do what this girl does yeah so Sarah's day was that for me where I was watching her vlogs from the very beginning and I remember she was just she would call herself like a bottomless pit and she would eat like probably like 3,000 3,500 calories she's tiny she's tiny and she was like shred now she's a mom and everything but she was like shredded so I was like

watched her from the very beginning. And I remember the same thing about her. And I think the same thing goes, you know, all around where it was like, I think with your friend, if you have a friend that is going through that, I really think I agree with you, Sam, but like, whatever you say, they're going to be in denial of what you say. But I think like what you guys both have, I think is so inspiring to so many girls, because

You guys are both your biggest supporter for each other and you both lean on each other. And I think the best thing, if you can find it is find someone, you know, in your life to be that for you. So if you have a friend that's struggling, you know, offer to go to the gym with them and kind of like push them what you guys, even when I worked out with you guys, like one time, it was so encouraging and motivating to have other females with you working out with you, you know, when you're both doing chest press, like pushing each other to do the chest press, you know,

it's a really motivating thing. And I think that that's a way you can help them too, is just to kind of not even, not even overtly saying anything is just be there. Yeah. Right. And it's also, I think education is a big thing because obviously if you're just like, that's bad, like you're killing yourself, like blah, blah, blah. And like kind of

like berating them and just saying like, that's bad. That could easily be like, no, I'm right. But if you, because then a girl might be like, but you don't understand if I eat, I gain weight, like go into a real conversation of like restoring your body and why that happens. And like the way to fix it rather than just being like, that's bad. Like you need to stop doing that. Like actually giving real advice. Cause I mean, I tried to do that for so many people and it's right. It doesn't always work. And like something like,

Whenever we talk about something serious, like mental health stuff, like if it's not working for you and you're like, my friends have said that. And you know what? Like if you're listening right now and you're like, I think I'm the person that's in denial. Professional help is a thing that you can get. It's okay if your friend's telling you something isn't working for you. Yeah. It's a very serious thing to be putting your body through this. Right. And I highly recommend reaching out to someone. Same. And I think that's you.

I started doing better help, which is like that therapy thing that people, I honestly listen to podcasts and they sponsor podcasts all the time. And I love it because it's like so affordable. You can go every single week. And they're like, I think it's over like 20,000 therapists. So you can like match with a therapist that you personally really like. And it's pretty affordable. You can go through insurance. You don't have to go through insurance. It's just a really good way for you to be able to kind of reach out to somebody and talk to somebody and find a specialist to kind of

kind of help you work your way through this if you feel like you need external help yeah which is really great yeah and I think it's funny how you said like how working out with us and how like when you're with people that like you know have the goals you want and like pushes you with me it was always a struggle because when I got into wanting to be fit and stuff I ate more than other girls I worked out more than other girls in college and stuff no one eats and

and you know I'm the one being like well we're going out at four what about dinner and everyone's like yeah alcohol for dinner and I'm like no I need food and like this is we tell this story like all the time but the first time we met we got Chipotle and we both cleared our bowls at the same time and I'm so used to being with a group of girls that it's like oh like this is so much food or like oh like I couldn't like if I finish a bowl being like oh I could never eat that and I'm like well

I ate it like inside. Yeah. Like, and we were going to the beach after we were going to the beach after going to be in like full bikinis and all through high school, I went to the beach with girls who didn't eat all day if we were going to the beach. So to like meet up with someone and be like, Oh my God, you're going to finish your Chipotle bowl. Like, and we're going to get in bikinis and like,

just like so healthy. Right. Exactly. Exactly. And it's just like that kind of brainwashed of like, just being around girls and stuff like that all growing up, it can really push some girls. It's just, everybody's different. So it can push somebody over the edge. You just don't know who it's going to be. And I think that that's really the hard part is like, you know, that kind of sense of like, like you're saying, like, you know, putting some, throwing someone under the bus, berating them, whatever, making them feel bad.

you know, you don't know like what they're going through. You don't know if they're recovering from something. You don't know if they're, how they're feeling. And I think it's just one of those things like to be cognizant of what you say, especially around food. I think that that's one of those things that you just have to constantly be aware of what you're saying. Yeah. One thing I did also want to touch on, like from your little story that you were just telling us too, is how you went into

Immediately tracking your food and reverse dieting, which I think is the complete opposite of what I did because I was so fixated on the numbers of food that I had to delete the app. So what is some advice that you have for somebody that was kind of from the same background like situation with dieting?

having those unhealthy habits, but they didn't involve the numbers and they want to get out of that and start using the, my fitness bow. Yeah. I guess like for, I had a, it was so interesting. I had a call with a client and we were talking about this because we were just talking about her background and

it's so interesting because it's almost like two different kinds of sides like sam's what you're talking about like there are girls that i know and that are my friends or people that i know of or clients that i have where numbers just trigger the hell out of them they cannot use it like they can't use my fitness pal they can't do it and you know because they got so mixed up in like the numbers they got so swept into it that it kind of became this really unhealthy way of using it and

And for me, I was like, I didn't even know my fitness pod existed. I think that's probably what saved me from using it. I was like, I was the one person who was like, you know, I would boil my chicken and I would like

like put it on the plate and I would put like tiny at the tiniest portions I could. I remember I was like on like websites of like how to like eat less. Like I was like researching how to, how to be anorexic essentially. And, you know, so I was like going like very old school, um, with, with that. And I think that partially it's because of ballet. I think ballet really had a huge, huge impact on me, um, psychologically that I just didn't understand. So,

What I would say is reverse dieting for me, I don't even pay attention to the calories ever. Like I never look at the calories unless I'm knowing I'm increasing the calories. I like, of course, like,

adjust it, but I'm more looking at like, did I hit my protein goal? Did I hit my carb goal? Did I hit my fat goal? And that's really about it. And the thing is I like move some stuff around if things are just kind of crazy that day or whatever. But for me, I always like stuff like that. Even my water bottle right now has like numbers on it for like how, how I'm going to hit it that day, because I like to be competitive with myself, you know, and I'm a very regimented person. So if I'm going to do something, I'm going to do it kind of thing.

So, you know, I'm very regimented. I'm very competitive with myself. So if I have numbers like that, where I'm going to try and hit them, especially coming off of something where I was obsessing, like it's nice where you can kind of have something that's just like showing you what you need to do and laying it out for you. And I felt like,

it was kind of paving the way as a path, not really being like this restrictive lifestyle, because I had just come off of something where I could never have dreamt of eating oatmeal before. And now I'm like allowed to have it. So, or else I won't hit my, hit my goals ever. And if I don't, if I don't eat stuff like that. So I think I was more like, it opened up the land of opportunity for me. And I was like, wow, I can have so much more food now. And I

And I think that's really kind of the way you have to look at it is that you're the ability to have like this freedom, you know, versus when you're just eating vegetables and eating chicken or eating whatever, whatever you're doing, you know what I mean? And so there's more than what you're just eating. Like you can eat more things. It's okay. Like you can go out and I think the biggest thing that shocked me was like,

If you do your like TD or whatever, if you calculate out like how much, you know, you're supposed to like have or consume during the day. And I was shocked at how much I was supposed to consume. And so it was so nice when I would have those numbers up, when I would look at those numbers and be like, wow, I have so much food I can eat today. Like that's so encouraging. Yeah. I feel like that's very shocking for majority of girls when they see that number. Very shocking. They're like, sometimes girls will DM me like, are they, are you sure? Like,

is this correct I'm like sounds about right yeah and for me I kind of I did both I used um it wasn't my fitness pal but it was like a tracking app um when I was like not eating and I also used it going um the other way and like learning how to eat more because for me and what I try to explain to people on TikTok all the time that just like because I measure my food they're like this is

like disordered. I'm like, it's not the actions. It's how you think about the actions. Like, right. I tell everyone like tracking my food does not bother me at all. Some days it's

I won't do it. Some days I'll like weigh my peanut butter when it comes out. Sometimes I eyeball it. Like I don't try it. Like, right. Doesn't bother me. Like, I'm not going to have a bad day. If I don't track, I'm not going to have a bad day. If I go over, it doesn't bother me, but it showed me how much I could eat because before, let's say if I had oatmeal and then for lunch, I had like a sandwich on two pieces of bread. I thought before tracking that, cause I took a break, like in between both, I thought that oatmeal and two pieces of bread, I definitely am like maxed out on carbs.

Like, I was like, that's all the carbs. I had a carb for two meals of the day. No, literally. I probably hit, I'm like 300 carb. I'm done. Like I was like, and then when I tracked it, I was like, wait, huh? I was like, I can have like, oh, it's bread, a bagel, pasta, and then cereal and then still be under my carb goal. Yeah. I didn't know. Like I thought, I thought all this stuff was just.

like I don't know I remember thinking that yeah yeah because that's exactly how I felt yeah like we don't like going back to like the eating disorder habits and all that I had we didn't know how to read a food label like if I were to look at oh no I was looking at it I was looking at the calories and

And I was looking at the ingredients because I was so fixated on the ingredients as well. Oh, were you, I never got into that. It was more just like, how simple can I make this? Like, no, literally. So like now that I can know how to read a food label and know how much carbs are in something, know how much fats proteins in it. It helps so much with like understanding, like, wow, I can have like three servings of this right now. Right. Exactly. Exactly. And I haven't tracked in like years. And I mean, like,

I just started doing it. Like I, it's my like second or third week doing it. And honestly, like I forgot how much I enjoyed it because I was like, this is so nice because I can,

still like because obviously I think when you have struggles with it like you kind of kind of way back and forth like if you're going through something hard or you're having like a stressful time like you can kind of lean on those old habits sometimes I think and for me like I am always super busy but I always and I never thought I would be this person but I was I've become the person where it's like oh my gosh I'm so busy like do I take a shower or do I eat and I'm like I'm gonna take a shower you know so I'm always like the person who will do that so with tracking it makes it more

more of a priority for me to eat. I'm like, I know this is important. I know I need to get my food and I know I need to do this. So it's really helpful for me. So I can kind of see those things. I'm a very visual person, very visual learner. So having an app on my phone and having these things like where now I can read a food label. I know what I'm eating. I know how many, like, like Taylor said, like I can eat a bowl of cereal and not feel like

anything about it. I can just be like, oh yeah, like whatever. And then just like eat a bullshit and I'm fine. But like before I was like, oh my God, I would never have done that. Like three years ago, I would have never done that. Yeah. Right. Same. I couldn't, I have cinnamon toast crunch in the cabinet right now. And cereal is my favorite food. Okay. Like I've seen cereal is my favorite food. There was months where I didn't buy it because I couldn't stop eating it. I'm not going to say I binge ate by any means because it wasn't that intense.

but it was to the point where like, if I had a bowl, I'd be constantly thinking about it and pour another one and then maybe stop, but then go to bed dreaming about the cereal. And then being like, I had it once this week. So we're going to hold off a whole nother week before I can have it again. And then once I got into tracking and realizing that all foods in a good way, not because some people saying all food is numbers is like a bad thing in a good way. It's just numbers and carbs. It's not that big of a deal.

I can literally like eat a serving, eat two servings, never think about it for the next month. Like it doesn't really, it doesn't bother me. I think there was a study. My dad told me there was like a study done that I can't remember what food it was. It was like cupcakes or it was like cookies, something like that, where someone was trying to prove if they could lose weight by just eating cupcakes. And they did, they lost weight by eating cupcakes because it was all numbers. It was all math. Exactly what you're saying. Like not all food is numbers. Like in a

like in a bad way, but like all food is numbers. Like if you figure out how to fit it into your life and you figure out how to fit it for your body can operate where it's using the calories and using the food that it like needs or whatever, if your body needs like 350 grams of carbs and you can like go up, go to the gym, go off, like do like

a freaking crazy bench press and come home and you're still like reaching your goals. Like, I mean, you can eat theoretically like a pizza all the time. You can eat those. It doesn't have to be like a restricted diet if it's that way. You know what I mean? And so I think, yeah, it's crazy because you don't have to like restrict yourself at all when you're tracking macros. And I think it's just like a nice way for people to, to, to live in a certain way to understand, I guess. To understand. And then, and then at a point, once you're okay,

You can just be done with it. Like, right. Like an intuitive eat in the summer. Cause it's like, even with like the cereal thing, like I have no cravings anymore because to me, like it's just food and I really don't care. Like, I'm not like, Oh my God. Yeah. Like I need an ice cream, like right now, like I'm going to get an ice cream the week that I want.

want. Like it doesn't, it literally doesn't matter. I have zero attachment to food. And I used to be that person. I remember seeing a post or someone talking, saying that thinking about food 24 seven means you have a problem. And I was like, there's no way everyone does that. Everyone does that. Like this is normal. Yeah. Until now where I actually feel good. I'm like, Holy crap. I actually don't do that. I would finish a meal and be like, what am I going to have for a snack? Like what could I fit in for dessert at the end of the night?

My friend reminded me of this of last night. Did any of you do this where if you have an eating disorder, when I had an eating disorder, I would eat dinner so early. Like I would eat dinner. Yes. Yes. Like four o'clock. I would eat dinner. Yeah. Five o'clock. I don't know why. Why is that? I don't know why that is, but I, I literally eat. Everyone I ask is like, yeah, I did that. And I just like.

literally I could not wait till 8 p.m. I could never do that or like 7 p.m. I could never do it. I feel like it was because I like personally, I didn't eat really like all day. And at that point I was starving. So when I knew if I had that last meal that I was like done for the day, like, yeah, that was it. I was like, okay, I can stop thinking about it. Like it's not coming anymore. I am done. Yeah. I just didn't eat snacks after school. And then

did that and held it off after having probably a 300 calorie lunch, maybe less didn't need a snack after like dance practice. So I like was doing physical activity and then I'd sit in my room with a headache being like, when can I eat dinner? Like when can I eat dinner? And then you can't eat after six. Yeah. Once I ate the dinner, I had to balance. I was like, do I want to eat it now? Cause I'm hungry or should I eat it closer to six?

Because six is my cutoff. I know. Yeah. And I thought about that from the minute I woke up. I thought about how I'm going to be the most full. Yes. That's how I always used to feel too, where I would immediately finish a meal and I would think about the next one. And I remember a time, because before that, when I was growing up, I was very like...

chill with food. I did not care. I didn't, I did not have any awareness of what I was eating. I would come home. I remember I used to have, we used to buy these like giant, like soft pretzels from like those, like, like Sam's club or like Costco or whatever. And I used to like eat like two of those. I was like 12. I used to eat like two of those after school. Like I did not care. I was, I would eat like four cookies. Like I was like very okay with, I did not care what went into my body.

I remember when I had my eating disorder thinking like, wow, I really wish I thought that way again. I wonder what that feels like because I don't feel that way at all. And I same thing thought I wandered around and said, everybody feels like this though. That's how everybody thinks. It's like, everybody thinks about food all the time, like constantly. No. Yeah. No. And I hope this helped like,

um, like if you guys are like, wait, I do that or like, wait, I feel that way right now. Just like, yeah. You get from us that there's, there's a better way to be. There's a better way. And there's, there is an other side. Like, I just never thought that there was anything else. You mean, I just thought that it was the way it was, but there is something else. Like there is a life without, without that, you know? Yeah.

Okay. So you mentioned like how you're like busy and whatnot. So you are like a kick ass trainer and you train celebrities, which is like listening. And I know a lot of people listening are

And we've talked about it that like a career in fitness, a lot of people just think fitness like influencers, but you can have a legit career in fitness. Oh yeah. Like aside from the whole social media thing. Totally. I want to talk about like how you got into what you're doing and like what you do now. A hundred percent. Yeah. So, I mean, now I'm a personal trainer. So I guess my job description now is I'm a personal trainer, but I'm an independent trainer out in Los Angeles. So basically that means like,

I just kind of train whoever comes to me. So I kind of train just whoever, but like with any kind of independent person out here, whether it's like skincare, whether it's like a hair person, a makeup person, a lot of people are independent. A lot of people's favorite people are independent because stylists, those are also independent people because what happens is a lot of times like an agent, like a manager, somebody will reach out to you and be like, Hey,

Like so-and-so wants to like, you know, work out with you or they're looking to work out. Like, could I schedule a call with you and my client? And then usually you don't even know who the client is. So like that happens a lot with like celebrities and stuff, or you get referred by word of mouth. So you like training. A lot of times it's trained by,

like makeup artists or like people who are, you know, in the industry will kind of like pass you off to their clients or whatever. So, and they train and they train, they go around and like, you have everybody's hair, they do everybody's makeup. So, you know, you just kind of never know like what's going to be happening. And then clients also turn over a lot, especially here because it's just a huge hub. So there's lots of traveling, lots of people coming in and out.

I've had like probably over 50 clients in the past two years. And just some of them, like I remember last year,

or two years ago almost now within 2020 and 2021 one of my clients like went to italy and then he was in budapest like shooting a movie like you know there's just like people who like move around all the time and one of my other clients is in italy for work and just like one of my other clients like splits his time between here the uk and miami and like so it's like people kind of move all over the place so it's really

it kind of goes back and forth a lot. So it really is really, I love being an independent trainer more than working for a facility. That's just my personal preference because I'm, I realized that I was like more of a person who wants to like have my own schedule and I want to have my own freedom. And also it gives me the freedom to do social media. So like, I didn't really have as much time to do social media when I was working at Dog Pound just because I was like there all the time. So all my content was- Yeah, that was lovely Sam. I worked-

this past year I worked for a company and it was nearly impossible to balance both. And of course I'm passionate about both of them, but it was like the stress that it would bring me from trying to do both was so impossible. So props to you because you are literally doing girl boss, like training celebrities, doing social media, everything. And that is so damn cool.

Yeah, it was so cool. I mean, like, I love working at Dog Pound. I guess like, for me, like, working at Dog Pound was like a huge, huge opportunity for me, because I never ever thought that I would, one, like live here, I always wanted to move to New York. And so when I moved here was kind of very, it was very random, very spur of the moment. But I think that I learned so much coming off of that. And I

even more now as an independent trainer, I've made so many personal connections throughout this industry. And it really is an industry out here. It really is like kind of a, who, you know, business. Um, and it's really interesting because a lot of my friends who are just independent trainers, like I have a friend who's a trainer out here. Who's like a very seasoned trainer. He's like in his thirties and he's like very, very good at what he does, but he trains, I mean,

everybody you could possibly imagine. And I mean, like his sessions are so expensive. Like I, it baffles my mind that people are like,

like it just is his life is so amazing but it's really just how he's built his entire life and his career but he also has a following on social media because he's like funny and he you know shares his training he shares his like whole school of thought and he's so educated in the training space um but it's also like there's so many different like different versions of it so my boyfriend is like

a trainer and he's like a, um, strength and conditioning coach. And he means that he trains like more athletes and stuff and trains more people like that. And then, you know, you have people who are more, you know, into like bodybuilding out here, you have more like bodybuilding trainers and, and then you have more social media people. You have like a lot of different

energies and there's just a lot of different people so if you want like different training there's so many different versions of it I guess yeah yeah so it's really interesting and like I mean working at Dog Pound was so interesting because I had never worked at a facility before that so that's a pretty big jump from no facility to Dog Pound if you guys don't know Dog Pound is like like where the Victoria's Secret models work out yeah yeah they used they got they blew up in like

2013 2014 no like 2014 2014 and if you were like my age or like I'm 21 but like if you're like me Sam and Taylor's age but and you were like watching like the Victoria's Secret show that was like my prime I was like obsessed with them and like me too that's how I found Dog Pound and I remember so I'll tell this story but I told Sam and Taylor when they were in LA but like basically I

I, so this also was like a story where it's like, if you want something, like you just have to just fricking do it because that's literally what I did. Um, I had a friend at that same bodybuilding gym I grew up at what was like

a really heavy hand in Victoria's secret for a long time. And so all the Victoria's secret girls were going to dog pound. And I remember I found that Victoria's sport commercial with all the, like the dog pound trainers and all the Victoria's secret girls. And I was like, I want to work at this gym so bad. And so that was like my dream for like two years. Like when I was getting my certification, when I was working out, when I was recovering, it was all I ever wanted. Right. So, um,

We're about to go to New York. Everybody from the gym is going to do a trip to New York. We're all going to go to Dog Pound and like, you know, celebrate my friend's birthday. Right. So we go to New York and I'm training with Kirk Myers, who is the CEO of Dog Pound still.

and I'm training with him in the ring. And he's like, I don't know if you guys have ever seen him, but he's like pretty short. He's like five, six or five of seven, but he is covered in tattoos, like, like head to toe covered in tattoos. He wears like nail polish. He wears like these like crazy nail polish. He walks around with no shoes on, like the most, like just eccentric person you've ever seen. And like, so I'm training with him in the ring and I'm like

absolutely dying also. And I'm just like, also dying inside, but like physically also dying. And like, you know, so we're just chatting and he kind of looks at me. He just goes, Olivia, like, would you like to work here? And I was like,

what? And he was like, yeah, I'd love to hire you. I think you'd be great. Like, I think that, you know, you would do really well here. He said, you know, we're opening a gym in LA this week. You know, would you want to move to LA? And I was like, Oh,

Oh my God. I was like, yes, of course. Oh my gosh. And my friends who I was with couldn't believe it because I, I was barely 19 years old. Like I had just crossed the line of 19. And now that I look at my sister who was about to be like 18, 19, I'm like, holy crap. I can't believe I did that at her age. You know what I mean? So, um, yeah.

And so it was so crazy. You know, I go home, I'm freaking out. I'm home in Ohio, like so excited. Right. So, and I had only been a trainer for three months at this point. So I was like,

brand freaking note. So the guy who's the manager at Dogtown LA, you know, is trying to get a meeting with me. I'm trying so hard. I'm texting him like every day. He's not really answering, like he's kind of answering, kind of not like whatever. And so I was very obvious to me that this opportunity was on the table, but it wasn't mine yet. So I ended up where he called me and where

we're talking, we're having conversation and I have like a suitcase packed. I have a giant suitcase packed because I had bought a one-way ticket before our phone call and packed all my clothes. In fact, all my stuff. And I, you know, I would, I call my mom at work and I was like, I'm sorry. I just have, I have to do this. Like, this is just how it has to be essentially because they're not going to take me unless I do this. And so, um,

calls me we're talking whatever and he said if you can teach a bench press a deadlift and a squat like I'll hire you and we can figure out the rest and I was like I can do that he was like okay great and so then he starts to say like oh like when you're coming out here and I wanted to limit the window of time that there was between me going out there and like and him giving me the job so I said I'm so sorry but I actually have a ticket for today he was like

what? I was like, yeah, I actually have a ticket for like, right now. He was like, oh my God. And he goes, is there, do you have anywhere to stay? And I said,

Uh, no, I've never been to California before. And he's this giant, um, Brazilian guy here. Like he's from Brazil. He's massive. And he just starts laughing. Like I will never forget. He just started like cracking up and he was like, Oh my God. Okay. Like, let me call you back. So it calls me back. And then she was like, okay, you can come. So I raced to the airport and got on the plane. And then that's how I moved here. And I mean, I was living in like

a shared Airbnb where like I was sharing a bathroom with strangers. I was living in a single room and I was like walking to work in the morning. I was walking like a mile and a half to work.

Like 5 a.m. And I mean, the craziest thing is like there's a lot of trainers that have the same story out here. Like even in New York, too, like all the people from Dog Pound that first worked with me here that first worked in New York were living in this thing that they called the trap house. They were like living in this like shitty apartment. And like it was just crazy. Like the stories they would tell like rats in the apartment, like whatever. I mean, people like really, really slum it to come.

to come out here. I had friends that would sleep at their friends' houses and like take the bus, you know what I mean? Like in the bus in LA is not it if you've ever been on the bus. So it's just, it's crazy like what people will do. And it's really, it's really inspiring because it really does show like how other people have like all this grit. And I think that's really the word I would use to describe how I felt at that point. Like I had a lot of grit, I had a lot of, yeah,

I had a lot of heart and I was like very brave. And I think that I also, I was stupid and brave and that was like the best combination I could be for doing something like that, where I just had no idea what I was doing, but that was probably the best, the best thing I think that I could have felt because if I was older, I think I would have been a lot more scared, but I was not afraid for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I was, and I wasn't afraid at all. I was just kind of like, it'll work itself out. I hope so. It'll be fine. But it's crazy. Yeah.

Yeah. So guys, anyone listening right now to the story that she told us, she actually already told us the story when we were at Irwan and like, I'm not even when she was saying it, my jaw was to the floor. Cause I was like,

This is insane. So we were like, you need to be on the podcast immediately. Seriously. So obviously chase your dreams. If you have that one small opportunity, go for it. Right. And I think that that's how I felt too, is like, you know, obviously we all have had such different paths and like have led us so many different ways and directions. And that, you know, for me, I think part of the reason, like what Taylor was saying, like, I think for success, I guess for me, I felt like, you know,

I was waiting on an opportunity and I had never really felt like I didn't go to college. So I was like, college is not the right thing for me. I don't feel like I'm going to thrive here. I don't feel like I'm going to be successful here. I don't feel like this fits me. I just think that there's something else. And I think that I was just patient with myself, patient with my dreams, patient, and just knowing that something was going to come around a corner because life is so long. I know people, there's always things like life is so short, but like life is so long. If you think about it, that, you know,

don't seize an opportunity that doesn't feel right, I guess, is like kind of my biggest advice. Like if don't be forced into something that you don't want to do. And I kind of think that for me, like I come from a town where everybody goes to college, everybody, you know what I mean? And so, I mean, and Sam, like growing up in the East Coast, I'm sure, you know, the student like Sam, you too, Taylor, like everybody goes to college, everyone. And like, I didn't. And I think I was definitely like a black sheep with that because I,

It was more of like, oh my God, she's a failure. And so, you know, I, it was more of like, I wanted to do musical theater for so long that I kind of changed my mind, which is fine. And then I just didn't really know what I wanted to do yet. And it was fine. I just think that being patient with yourself

And knowing that you can, you're going to accomplish a lot of things, but just kind of figuring out where your talents lie, like what your strengths are. And that takes time, especially when you're young, like when you're like 18, 19 years old, you don't know yet. So you kind of have to go out in the world and figure it out. And I think that also like having a sink or swim situation for me, it was very good. And I think in some ways that's how college is for a lot of people, but sometimes it needs to be like more of a push. And I, so yeah.

Yeah, I also think don't overthink a lot of things. That's also my thing is like, don't overthink a lot of stuff. Because not a lot of people overthink everything, you know? So, but yeah, it was wild. It was crazy. I mean, like my first day, I remember I trained Adam Levine with Kirk. I mean, so Kirk was like, hey, Olivia, I want you to help me shadow this session. And, you know, I was like, oh, sure. And then he had me...

sit on Adam Levine's like, like legs on his shins over the, um, oh my God, what was it over the boxing ring? And he had me like, he was like doing crunches and like tapping my shoulder. And I remember being like, this is my first day. And I was like, oh my God. And then he was like pushing me on a sled, like back and forth. Like, it's crazy. It was so wild. And just like,

I think the thing is for me, that's so crazy is that it just brought so much opportunities for me that I just never thought I would ever have. Oh yeah. You definitely have so many opportunities. Like say one day for some odd reason, you just didn't want to do training anymore. You have all of these people and all of these like,

what's the not like mentors but like people that you can rely on and like get help from I guess is what I'm right yeah and if you want to work on your own no matter what it is um you can't like because I feel like people maybe see you or someone like us but like let's say you like oh this girl like lives in LA like she gets to train cool people like she's like she probably just got it like handed to her right and yeah the cool opportunity fell in front of you

But if you don't do anything, then the opportunity goes to shit. Like, right. And you, I think a lot of people may overlook opera, like opportunities that they don't even know opportunities. Like if something, you have to put yourself out there. Like, I remember going into these gyms, I went to this boxing gym and I wanted a job at a gym. That's literally all I wanted.

yeah and I like went up to the the coaches and was like hey I do social media I had like what like 10k Instagram followers nothing crazy and I was like I do like social media and I do like TikTok I had like 200k on TikTok and I was like I'm like looking for like a like I I was shy I was scared shitless going up to these people and being like hey this is me and what I do like could you because it's like you never know maybe that guy had like the biggest connection in the

freaking world I mean like he didn't you never know like right you never you never know and what the craziest thing is like that's really the biggest thing about here and even just in general I remember so dog come started because this is a crazy story and that's like so connected so you have no idea who's gonna change your life and I think that's the biggest one one person said that I can't remember who said that but you have no idea who's gonna change your life you have no idea so

At Dog Pound, so Kirk was working at this gym in New York called Gotham Gym and was just racking up tons of clients, whatever. He was doing the independent training thing and he was training this dermatologist. He was training a dermatologist and the dermatologist was like, oh, one of my clients wants to come in and see you.

Great. Have him book a session or I can't have him come with you, whatever. And it was Hugh Jackman. So Hugh Jackman comes and he starts training with Kirk at this random gym. And Hugh loved Kirk.

like loved him. And they became so popular that they would like, he was like booking so many clients at the gym and he would bring his dog to like, this was like early days, it's like 2012. And he would bring his dog to the gym sessions and they would like tie up the dog when they would work out and they would call it dog pounds. Like, Oh, it's like a dog pound. Ha ha ha. And then they like would made t-shirts and like, that's how it all started was because

like this opt like our dermatologist was like, Oh my God, I want to bring my client in. And like, you just have no idea, like who is going to change your life. You have no idea who's going to bring you an opportunity. And I mean, even for me, so one of my clients at Dog Pound was,

was like a very wealthy family in um in the UK so he's a very well like wealthy dude but like from comes from a super wealthy family super nice guy but I remember we met because there was a like a session that Kirk had like to like miss or he had to hand off to somebody and I had happened to be in the gym at that night because I was going to a boxing class so I was like you know and then he he's British and he was like oh my god no she's like way too hard no don't do that

And so we ended up training together and he like loved the session and how it works at DogPine is you can't book like with one trainer, you have to book with like multiple. So you'd have like three trainers on rotation. So you'd have different ones, like every time you come in. So it was like kind of keeping it interesting for the clients. And then also each trainer gets to kind of like see everybody.

So, but I remember he was, he was an investor in the company and he was like, no, I only want to work out with Olivia. So every time he would come into town, he would only work out with me. And I remember when I stopped working there, we still trained like all the time throughout COVID. And we were training like two or three months straight on FaceTime, like over COVID. And then I ended up like training his like family. I remember I ended up like living at his house because his, um,

his dog sitter like literally had to go back to Romania or something or go back to the UK and so I was living at his house at this like beautiful like multi-million dollar home with him and his friend taking care of this dog and I remember it was like this time last year and I was like I how did I end up like how did this even happen like I don't even understand what's going on and so it's just like so crazy like just small things like that that have just like happened that are so random and

that it like have nothing to do with like like you know like it's like opportunity but you have to like seize those opportunities like just like Taylor was saying like you have to like you have a million stories under your belt like it's so crazy it's so crazy no and I can imagine because we went to LA and I feel like even we are like we saw so-and-so and then we went here and this person was there and that was like one week yeah no seriously like if we live there it

if you live there and it's just this town is like on the head of a pin it's so small and I think that's also a misconception I didn't even know what LA was like before I moved here honestly I always laugh with my client I remember laughing about it one time like I my only reference for it was like for some reason I always imagined it like how they're like in the movie Bolt like that freaking Disney dog movie they like go to Hollywood and I was like I don't know why I like picture it like that but I just do and

It was just so funny because like here it took me like

like a couple months to figure out that every single person knows each other like all these people know each other all these celebrities know each other but then there's also like this back end of people like these Hollywood people are just like you know you would know like you have no idea like you know people who are trainers all know each other like I've heard of and met many many of them and it's just it's crazy like it's just crazy how that all kind of interconnects and you know um but yeah it's it's a while I never I never knew that about living here before I did yeah

We literally have like more bullet points and we are like an hour in. I know. So maybe one week we might have to do a part two. A part two. We'll do a part two. Out of time. I know. And that's always a good thing because sometimes like, you know, you put bullet points, you're like, oh, we didn't quite put enough. But I'm like, we, there's more things I want to say and ask, but we will keep talking for two hours. So I think if you guys like it,

comment on the post comment on like Olivia's recent post that you guys want the part two because there's more bullet points on there that we won't even say them no no you guys don't know what they are no they don't know what they are and then you know obviously if any questions like we're happy to share stories so you know yes yeah obviously

Yeah, I think this was so fun. It was so fun. Oh my God. We went from like talking about like, like ED pass, like talking about celebrities, like it was all over the place, but I freaking loved it. And I really hope a lot of the girls could, you know, get inspired by your story and hopefully get themselves ordered their friend out of like the little bubble that they are in.

Yeah, no, absolutely. I think that like, you know, the world is so big. And I mean, one thing that I really have started doing is like online coaching. I think that's like the one of the biggest things.

pieces of advice if you're like trying to get into training like starting with online coaching I did the opposite so I did like in-person training first but that I know a lot of girls I met like on the beam trip so I'm a part of like beam and that supplement company that salmon is also a part of and on the beam trip to Nashville a lot of the girls I met do online coaching and then I recently just started doing it

where you can train with me online. It's great. And I love it. And then you train through like a specific program. It's super easy and super accessible to everyone. And if you're a new trainer and you're kind of trying to like...

rack up clients are trying to learn you're trying to figure things out and then while you're trying to go out and like look for jobs you're trying to go out and like look for a facility or whatever you're doing online coaching is a great way to start um and I honestly saw that with a lot of girls that were with the beam like with beam like I just it was one thing I never kind of thought about doing but it's one of those things where I really enjoy doing it as well because it's a nice way to kind of

keep it like keep it accessible keep it real with other people and stuff and you know stay in touch with them and like also help educate other girls um but yeah and like that's what I would say is too is like you know always just try to kind of figure out like what you want to do especially if you're a trainer and just kind of figure out like what works for you yeah I feel like the moral of this episode is like the world is so big and your mind is so

Your mind is so small and keeping you in denial of what is like actually reality in terms of like your eating struggles or just like what you think is the limit for how successful you could be. Like you, there is so much more out there than whatever. So much more. You're like so much more capable. You're so much more capable than you think you are. And I think that's the thing is it's all about confidence and trying to gain that confidence and learning where that comes from and honing it and using it.

to an advantage for your own life. You know what I mean? Right. Yeah. Okay. Well, loved it. Loved it a lot.

comment if you guys want a part two on the thing and then comment on Olivia's most recent post we're gonna take your recent Instagram whatever your recent is on Friday put it on our story and then they're gonna comment that they're from the podcast oh my gosh yes that'd be so fun so then you get they get to show you some love little engagement and then we also just get to see how many people yeah I know I'm so excited this is so fun you guys yes so with that okay bye guys

Friday.