On this week's podcast, Bob talks with Dr. Jason Herbert, the Tribal Liaison with the Pike-San Isabel National Forests and Cimarron and Comanche National Grasslands (PSICC). Dr. Herbert, the first person to hold this position with the PSICC, talks about his previous experiences working with Native American tribes in the southern U.S. prior to working with the USFS, and now his position in the PSICC. He discusses why a "Tribal Liaison" is important, what his mission is, and how it may affect the operations of the Forest Service and the user experiences of the public in general. Pike-San Isabel National Forests and Cimarron and Comanche National Grasslands: https://www.fs.usda.gov/psicc Please consider becoming a patron of this podcast! Visit: https://www.patreon.com/hikingbob for more information Hiking Bob website: https://www.HikingBob.com Wild Westendorf website: https://wildwestendorf.wordpress.com/ Where to listen, download and subscribe to this podcast: https://pod.link/outdoorswithhikingbob