VoV 040: Fonts with Miriam Suzanne
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Panel: - Joe Eames- John Papa- Erik Hatchett- Charles Max Wood Special Guest: https://twitter.com/mirisuzanne?lang=en) In this episode, the panel talks with https://twitter.com/mirisuzanne?lang=en) who is an author, performer, musician, designer, and web developer who works with http://oddbird.net/authors/miriam/), Teacup, Gorilla, Grapefruit Lab, and CSS Tricks. She’s the author of Riding SideSaddle and the Post-Obsolete Book, co-author of Jump Start Sass, and creator of the Susy and True Open-Source toolkits. The panel and the guest talk about Fonts! Show Topics: 0:00 https://www.telerik.com/kendo-ui) 0:53 – Guest: Hello! 1:01 – Guest: I am a designer and a developer and started a business with my brother. We are two college dropouts. 2:00 – Panel: Is that’s why it’s called http://oddbird.net/authors/miriam/) 2:05 – Guest: Started with Vue and have been talking at conferences. 2:31 – Chuck: Chris invited you and he’s not here today – go figure! 2:47 – Panel: You are big in the CSS world. 2:58 – Guest: That’s where I’ve made my name. I made a grid system that was popular at one moment in time. 3:17 – Panel. 3:27 – Panel: Grid Systems are... 3:36 – Guest talks about her grid system and how it looked. 4:20 – Panel. 4:24 – Panel goes back-and-forth! 5:24 – Chuck. 5:27 – Guest: That’s why grid systems came out in the first place b/c layout was such a nightmare. When I built Susy... 6:02 – How much easier is design today on modern browsers compared to ten years ago when you created Susy? 6:14 – Guest: It can look daunting but there are great guides out there! 7:04 – Panel asks a question. 7:11 – Guest: We recommend a stack to our clients. We had been using backbone Marinette for a while and we wanted to start messing with others. Looking at other frameworks. Looking at design, I like that Vue doesn’t hide it from me and I can see what I need. 8:41 – Panel: I love that about Vue. I knew this guy named, Hue. 8:54 – Guest: I have been friends with https://twitter.com/sarah_edo?ref_src=twsrc%255Egoogle%257Ctwcamp%255Eserp%257Ctwgr%255Eauthor) 9:07 – Panel: https://twitter.com/sarah_edo?ref_src=twsrc%255Egoogle%257Ctwcamp%255Eserp%257Ctwgr%255Eauthor) is great she’s on my team. 9:39 – Guest: I had been diving into JavaScript over the summer. I hadn’t done a lot of JS in the past before the summer. I was learning Vanilla JavaScript. 10:21 – Guest: I don’t like how it mixes it all together (in reference to the https://reactjs.org/docs/introducing-jsx.html))). 10:44 – Panel mentions Python and other things. Panelist asks a question. 10:54 – Guest: That would be a question for someone who writes that. 11:30 – Panel: I am going to change topics here for a second. Can you talk about your talk? And what is a design system? 11:48 – Guest answers the question. 13:26 – Panel follows-up with another question. 13:35 – Guest talks about component libraries. 15:30 – Chuck: Do people assume that the component that they have has all the accessibility baked-in b/c everything else does – and turns out it doesn’t? 15:48 – Guest answers. Guest: Hopefully it’s marked into the documentation. 16:25 – Panel. 16:36 – Guest: If you don’t document it – it doesn’t exist. 17:01 – Panel. 17:22 – Guest: “How do we sell clients on this?” We don’t – we let them come back and say, “we had to do less upkeep.” If they are following our patterns then... 17:57 – Panel: We’ve had where guides are handed off and it erodes slowly over time. Then people are doing it 10 different ways and not doing it the way it was designed. 18:31 – Guest: Yes, it should be baked-into the design and it shouldn’t be added to the style guide. 19:02 – Chuck: I really love Sass – and CSS – how do you write SASS or CSS with Vue? 19:12 – Guest answers the question. 19:23 – Chuck: You made my life better! 19:31 – Guest: If you have global files...you can have those imported among other things. 20:11 – Panel: What’s the best way to go about that? 20:24 – The guest talks about CSS, global designs, among other things. 21:15 – The guest mentions https://medium.freecodecamp.org/managing-large-s-css-projects-using-the-inverted-triangle-architecture-3c03e4b1e6df) 22:12 – Guest: The deeper we get the narrower we get! 22:49 – Guest mentions scope styles. 23:12 – Panel: That makes total sense! We are using scope everywhere. 23:30 – Guest. 23:36 – Panel: How would you approach this? I start with scope and then I take them out of scope and then usually promote them to import for mix-ins. I wonder where is that border? 24:30 https://devchat.tv/get-a-coder-job/) 25:09 – Guest answers the question. 25:53 – Panel: It sounds easy at first but when you are designing it you say: I know that isn’t right! 26:13 – Guest: I try to go through a design proposal. 26:27 – Guest defines the term: reused. 27:04 – Panel. 27:10 – Guest. 27:30 – Panel: We used to have this problem where we got the question of the following: splitting up the CSS bundles. 28:27 – Guest: That is the nice thing of having CSS in components. 28:49 – Panel asks Miriam a question. 29:02 – Guest: That’s often when someone wants a redesign. 29:54 – Panel: How do you decide on how many fonts to deliver so they don’t take over the size of the browser? 30:09 – Guest: The usual design rule is no more than 2-3 fonts works out well for performance. Try to keep that rule in mind, but you have to consider every unique project. What is more important for THAT project? 31:46 – Panel. 32:21 – Guest gives recommendations with fonts and font files. 33:37 – Chuck: What are you working on now with Vue? 33:45 – Guest answers the question. The guest talks about collaborative writing. 34:10 – Miriam continues. 34:55 – Chuck: What was the trickiest part? 35:00 – Guest answers the question. 36:03 – Guest: It’s called Vue Finder and it’s through open source. 36:39 – Chuck: Any recent talks coming up for you? 36:49 – Guest: I have one tonight and later one in California! 37:02 – Guest: There were several Vue conferences this year that I was sad to have missed. 37:40 – Guest: Are you doing it again? 37:49 – Panel: How many do you attend? 37:57 – Guest: Normally I do 8-10 conferences and then a variety of Meetups. 38:33 – Chuck: Picks! How do people find you? 38:41 – Guest: http://oddbird.net) and https://twitter.com/mirisuzanne?lang=en) 38:58 –https://www.freshbooks.com/?adgroupid=51893696397&ag=%255Bfreshbooks%255D&camp=US%2528SEM%2529Branded%257CEXM&campaignid=717543354&crid=284659279616&dv=c&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1uiA0Jas3gIVirrACh04fwTjEAAYASAAEgJxqvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&kw=freshbooks&kwid=kwd-298507762065&ntwk=g&ref=ppc-na-fb&source=GOOGLE) Links: - https://vuejs.org)- https://reactjs.org)- https://www.javascript.com)- https://www.tutorialspoint.com/csharp/)- http://www.cplusplus.com)- https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/C%252B%252B_Programming/Memory_Management)- https://angular.io)- https://github.com/aspnet/Blazor)- https://www.javascript.com)- https://devchat.tv)- https://reactjs.org/docs/introducing-jsx.html)- https://www.vuemastery.com/conferences/vueconf-us-2018/agile-design-systems-in-vue-miriam-suzanne/)- https://css-tricks.com/how-to-import-a-sass-file-into-every-vue-component-in-an-app/#more-277641)- https://realtalkjavascript.simplecast.fm)- https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/pose)- https://twitter.com/mirisuzanne?lang=en)- https://www.miriamsuzanne.com)- http://oddbird.net) Sponsors: -