Tesla's We, Robot Event: Let’s Not Get Nuanced
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watching IT on. Yeah, what is that? People of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the way from podcast where your host and our kander David roll back in the same .

place it's been .

years in today. We've got a new ipad mini refresh will also talk about, of course, tesla wee robot robot taxi event and what up up with some big new adobe releases. But first, I just want to shout out the studio channel, massive quinton central new studio channel video went live in the last couple of days.

I hope you ve already seen if you haven't IT be shown OS s go wash IT. I think I realized at some point in the past couple months that I have told this like octopus analogy made about youtube many times, but only on other people show. I've told that on maybe you did this on the pie, but other people's interviews and I i've talked about that before.

And so we just told that ourselves with our own team, which I thought was nice because there is no how to guide on how to make a youtube channel. There is know how two guys on how to at a team and how to get help with making youtube OS and being creative as a creative, our mine. So this is our own experiences and our own tips and things we've learned from what we've done.

It's like fifty five minutes long. Yeah, it's so worth that is chapter red if you want to skip to certain sections but every sections gold. So yeah, check that. I know I mean that the smart.

but also a lot of that very, very well made, I think thing with the Whiteboard writing over the skin was so many, a good job .

making and a good we bought a piece .

of clear a .

chri c and then alex took like phone call to cut out the per display. So IT had its own like bezel is so cool. And then we just could write on the clear look.

he looks so cool. Yeah, I was really well done.

There's a lot of full put into that. I think everyone was a little worried about posting a fifty .

minute youtube video matter, right?

People love IT IT seems like a lot of people watched a lot of IT. I can't believe how many people said this should be. Of course I should pay for Normally that are like we don't want to pay for anything.

Well, the funny thing is you did a master class. yeah. Now we have this.

I've done various versions of this like i've done, I did a share course, which was more how to in the actual nuts and both of shooting video OS. And then i'd been a master class, which was also very broad, but more on being an online video presence. So those are two slightly different skills.

This one was literally just, here's what we do. We have a youtube channel. We are building a team around the skills to develop and make good .

videos on youtube that I think is like for all the just kind of people out there who even remotely interested in a youtube channel. IT speaks to all of those parts, but also to the people who aren't remotely into that, but just want to see how we work. IT speaks all those other team.

It's really, really well done. One thing in there, there is a part where geno and eric made this joke about geno firing area. But then I guess there is too much of a gap to when they make the joke again. And Joanna just says, like since we ve got rid of whatever producers and apparently a lot of people thought I got fired, I don't know how I got into that .

conversation.

but still here yeah.

was a multiple people email asking to apply for the position.

Oh, sorry to see that anger got fired.

Is this trouble?

I hate to not as I did that once.

and I regret .

that I feel ad word. And okay, yeah, so let's out there. Go watch that video.

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Take a signal for youtube. You subscribing five minutes into the episode is probably a really good signal for youtube. The .

album now .

I see move in on. Okay, we would you write down here about amazon, Andrew?

I think I don't probably knows the most about IT, but amazon released its first colored kindle.

Is that a big deal? yes.

okay. They have four new kindle. Actually one of them is kindle color soft.

I believe it's called this is not the first colored e ink tablet by any means, but it's the first one that kindle is doing. OK, yeah, which is a big deal. Yeah, two seventy nine year.

And IT just looks really nice. I really like IT like having color is something that as a kindle user, you kind of get used to not having. So you're reading books, you know the text for the most part, whatever. But there are sometimes where you're reading a book and like they have a graph or something or like they have an image or even like in fantasy books at the very beginning, there's like maps and it's like oif. This wasn't color that would be kind of cool.

I because you say like you know maybe has a graph, like you don't come in to work every single day with a spana Y I was like, there's no graphs in that.

Well, the also because if .

you read on the subway, people will think you're smart and cool and attractive if we .

are using the .

people anyway.

Because I have a question. Yes, you read comics. Yes, I can. Ad .

comics, yes, you can, but I specifically read comics via the marvel unlimited up and I don't know if that is on kindle.

Let me just something called the books palmer.

Well, agent book's color.

the book color go. It's really it's a tablet. It's nee tablet. That's an color.

They should increase the resolution and the frame rate .

and they be .

and not .

a wireless check yeah so .

not sure if you can use marvel unlimited, but yeah, I use the actual marvel APP. But anyway, pretty cold to have color on kindle. Finally, it's been freaking forever.

Then they released three other ones. There's a new kindle paper White, which is just slightly largest. I'd actually don't know what is the cheaper one. I know it's the it's larger and it's the thinness. One is seven inches um seven years display now which is school about because I have the kindle paper White from like I don't even know how many years ago and it's still going but IT is hugin along and apparently this ones like a lot faster, which makes sense. A battery life is still crazy supposedly like months which makes sense for a black and White eating display.

The color ones, eight weeks of Better .

yeah that's also crazy.

And U. S, C.

although it's and while .

charging .

actually no .

way I have a ducting .

charging .

with pins. I yeah, I meant to mention that specifically for you day because you're was yelling .

about why are the charging? I love charging yeah, especially with the device like that. Like wireless charging is slow. But if you you charge at five watts on a kindle and you get another month of bad yeah so .

easy yeah it's also waterproof, which is nice. Can confirm because I used to be like who cares of is waterproof like i'm not reading this in the bath like they love to .

say like you're reading .

this in the bath that's .

not what I read but ad in the shower yeah the shower I actually .

ad in the .

shower really yeah .

with the kindle what .

just soaked absolutely soaked book in the year.

yes, but this one's now waterproof. And if you're ever like, pull side, very handy. Someone splashed me once when one's pull side now was nervous that my kinder was gonna ing.

But IT didn't, but couldn't break. Actually .

they would .

would break by getting, yes, indal taker. I think that is like White puzzles. Now the things three hundred P P, I.

yeah it's made to compete with the remarkable tablet .

I find how is on their Price release. The first like feature they talk about is like all new White and I like, okay, so there's not much here.

I also thought most people didn't like White puzzles.

I think they said that. So that looks more like the paper is expanding closer to the screen except IT doesn't. No, IT doesn't not .

in the future, but IT doesn't. A I summarizing your notes?

Oh, it's like I just bought this book for fifteen dollars. Can you summarize for me?

I think .

it's just note, I thought this e reader to not read Spark machine Sparkman .

pain eratosthenes e that's exactly .

should they should make a Sparkling and all of does a summarize what you are gonna read and do people say you Sparking? I going to ask that these days have .

any idea to have much?

Yeah you just ask syria, whatever um we'll speak IT to add size devices with roughly seven screens me apple also refresh ed their mid size device to the seven screen. The ipad mini gotten update sort of is also a pretty minor update. Um IT has new colors and a new chip and IT supports the apple pencil pro.

cool. I think that's IT. Or do they the outbreak will come back. There's really no one more to say. I mean, I think what happens here is apple knows they want to be able to support apple intelligence on a their whole original devices.

And the oldster in the three year old, I guess at this point, I one twenty twenty one version would not really have worked. So parts then they grabbed eight seventeen pro, and they're putting them in with a slightly new color. Eight seventeen pro awesome means faster U S, B, C, faster wifi 6E， A. And they also double the base storage.

thanks. That's for the same. That's good. One of the first things I said in the like highlighted glimpse of why that this was built for apple intel.

And so it's like very litter. Yeah yeah. I am I A ipad. Many owner since the first will the last generation came out. What would you have liked to see in this two things?

One, and mark, as is probably going to yellow about this. As soon as I say IT, a Better display plays to face. I D, the touch. I is cool, but I am over at this point.

I want face ID, especially because the way that I typically have and use my ipad like i'm not i'm holding IT in portraits so my finger isn't up there all the time. Landscape and make sense. But in portrait, I have to like continuously move my hand, which and it's basically the same size as a giant fricken phones.

So they just give me face he does have big bezzle too brow to the big yeah they could have fit the facility in the vezzoli.

I will plus on both of those uh the displays have this weird jelly scrolling issue out of people. This one of things again, like the display nerds, we all see IT and can't unc IT and then there's a whole population of people that's like, what do you talking about? I don't care.

I've never seen this saying with promotion care. But if you do look at these ipad mini did have essentially like a lag between the left and right half of the display as you score that grow a different just slightly different rates to where you would be kind of weird to your eye called jelly growing. We're hoping that, that's fixed, but IT appears to be the exact same display.

The display driver may be different with the seventeen pro. So we can will have to check IT out. We'll to see I don't know if that fix but I I was hoping for like a totally new display like give me, oh LED give me ninety heard this would never happen. Oh ever would never do this but yeah um yeah still a liquid Crystal, a super retinal display is an lc, is an LCD.

Is the mini ever gonna a pro device? Will I ever become an I mini pro?

A hired ipad mini is of a weird in between proposition that I guess kite, a similar to the pro iphone, would actually probably sell the least, even though would be maybe the some .

people's favorite is an interesting idea because generally people who buy small phones are a sort of power user people, right? That's the whole reason .

that sells in smaller unit.

Yeah, I don't maybe i'm wrong about that. I could be wrong about that. But to me, he feels like the people who are always shouting I want more phones are like in the minority, which to me also says that more investing in the product, which to me says that more power users. So if you're going to sell a smaller amount of ipad mini anyway because most people buy the bigger screens when you just go all out and sell if for five ninety nine because .

I would yeah at that Price yeah I think, I mean, this is right of apple's ali. Make a five hundred lars. Ipad like this, ipad many like this, but also make yeah five ninety nine, six forty nine ipad mini pro yeah that has a nicer screen, that has a higher and ship and that is more capable thabeet zs, face I D and whatever I would be in of that totally, but even smaller group than the regular had me so that my y doesn't exist. But I would buy IT. Yeah, blue, purple, starlight and gray.

I like the new blue color.

I will say they are pretty muted, but I think that looks nice.

yeah. I I need to see in person because often they are even more saturated on the internet.

This is not .

very if IT is the .

same blue as the new iphone sixteen blue, yeah iphone 6 blue ah this kind .

of util .

blue。

If it's a blue sky outside.

then IT looks blue r it's like when you over exposed your photo and there's a little hint of blow in .

the sky bit is mostly way how many more blue jokes can be me to IT? That's pretty much IT for amid sized vice segment. Um we have a whole bunch more to talk about though there is a whole event. David apparently has a lot of questions. I was there.

I have all the answers.

what all the answer, all of them, every single answer. I promise you that after the break. But before we get that one more ship IT would .

tribe time tribe? Dude, okay. First question, how long until markets has to save his head? Just kidding, not the question.

okay. So the kindle finally has a color E N C. display. It's only been how many years since the first kindle.

Le man, I remember this. Don't remember the year. The first kindle, my sister about the first one, and I translated everything to an e pub.

Me too. Yeah, that's one.

Kindles were like all the age. Yeah, I really, really easy to access the memory on them. And just still, things .

allegedly never owe a kindle.

You've never didn't even get to remember the kindle fire like super cheaply that they were to lose money on phone.

Was the phone I have?

This was made by kinder.

okay? I guess I did. I guess I .

had a kindle .

if I had.

But the whole .

thing was like its .

super cheap and we're losing money on the hardware because you're gonna buy so many things on amazon with IT. And I had one.

Well, amazon used to have the .

the amazon mobile .

store and every week they had a new free APP that was generally paid to try that and you had to download off of the internet because you couldn't get IT on the play store. So IT was a third party APP story that .

they were like, please use IT please. I remember that. And then I would follow joy .

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right? Welcome back. So let's talk about this. Let's think about the cesspool of them.

I have first, yeah, for ellis. All right. Did you watch the eyes robot movie?

Yes, yes.

we hadn't seen him before.

I watched IT for the first time this weekend. You to know to get the context .

now that you seen that you think it's a good idea for a tech company.

Four to with .

their own event.

No.

sorry, we're continuing the trend.

I did they watch the movie, do not make the torture chAmber.

Here's what actually happened. So I ve made my video reaction to IT, and you guys go washed if you want. But as far as actual or events, IT was a IT was a night event.

He was in california. We go out. It's that like universal studios in the sort of Warner brothers studios.

I grew up in the ebrd.

So I know you grew up on the backlog of water.

I was actually a small little grandma who emerged every night to snake left over crown from craft services.

He grew up in the cyber cab.

He was a cool place to have an event. I was that, uh, essentially it's like an our long we get three main announcements. The first one is here is the robot cab IT is the self driving taxi .

IT is a tube or you just call the robot cap because he kept going robot taxi .

or tai cyber cab. Robot cab, cyber taxi where to cause any of those names are probably fine a because IT won't exist anyway what I shown. So it's it's a two door tesla.

It's a two seater. yeah. IT has no steering real no peddles. Its main goal is to be essentially a fleet Operated vehicle.

IT is aimed to be under thirty thousand dollars and coming out before twenty, twenty seven. And IT will essentially self drive everywhere all the time, with minimal human, almost no human input at all. IT has scissor doors.

I go up sideways. IT has a great day. Wireless charging, no. And a IT looks a bit like A A baby then they moved on and also .

showed us a .

robot and I guess is what I was called, which sure um which was an up to twenty sider bus sized but uh I robot army vehicle shaped and yeah .

so you know .

how you got to see yes. And like in the car section you see punch first. It's one of us. It's one of those.

We see this all the time and then last, but at least we oh, by the way, no details on that. No range, no Price, no state, nothing. Just like, here's the thing will do, vans.

sure. Sixteen, twenty people go OK. And then last one, at least they rolled back out of the optimistic robot as if this sort of remind us they wear in A I company. We're doing a whole bunch with A I, and these other robots are making major strides.

And so as you went around this event today, getting rides in the robot taxi, just note that the optimistic robot will also be wandering around serving drinks, interacting, telling jokes, giving out snacks and just having a good time too. Uh, and so that all also happened. Three very interesting things to all happen.

And you know, the tone of the event, I actually think was pretty interesting, because IT was is their most future looking event ever. Because as you as you imagine, a world where plausibly robot taxes are are wandering around and never needing the park, and just while is charging in fleet somewhere, you need less parking lots theoretically. And now parking lots are parks. And now there's these all these future, you interesting projections of cool things that the efficient and safer future code look like give all these cars are self driving and never having any accident like .

my public .

transit the yes, also like, well, trans is interesting. But still the idea of all the future stuff was really cool. IT was clouded though, I think. And I said this in the video by all these demos and promises that were ah if you not realistic and a little bit yeah just distracting I think is what happened.

I think the IT started with the the main interesting controversy, if you want to call that was the optimistic robots that we're walking around, where you could walk up to one, and I would say, hi, what's your name? And you could talk to IT, and IT would play shades with you, and you could take a picture with IT. And I would react in doing all these animations.

IT would see you taking a picture, and I would pose, and then he could ask you questions, and I would answer. And IT was very, very clearly either IT was okay. I put, i'll praise them like this.

IT was either definitely a human through a like a speaker, or IT was the greatest demonstration of robotics and LLM live in person that the world has ever seen. Buy a lot. So up to you to decide what you think we saw.

Tesla never really confirmed anything, but there were tesla engineers on the ground like walk around, like talking to people. So if you get to get a hold of one of them, you talk to them and get as much information as you could out of them. Yeah, many of them seem to confirm that.

Oh yeah, okay, yeah. That's a person that's talking to you or that there is some human assistance with the animations and walking and things like that, but there is some undevout of happening as well, notably the test engineers I talk to. You didn't say any of that.

which I thought was you just said they said like .

to minimal human when I first asked them, are all of the speech things happening on device? They said, yes, all the are happening on device. And I talked to this robot in real time and IT responded.

Superfast, like I usually did now, is just like, okay, I need to ask you again, how much of what's happening is human assisted? I need to know. And they said some of IT is human assisted, but they wouldn't really tell me .

much more than that. There's a guy on twitter that said, I talked to engineer when I was walking. That was autonomous, but everything else was a person controlling IT sure. yeah. And talking through the speaker.

yeah. I think I think what I, what I compared to most two was, remember the disney video with the like by petal robots with a steam that controller IT had all these cool animations that I could do if you press the right button. Yeah, and you could, of course, talk to your microphone.

But I would also blend those animations together and walk round and about baLance itself on its own. I think that's a roughly what's happening with these optimistic bots at this particular event. Now again, that's getting into the needed grey details of how much is real, how much is fake about the opm deo. But if you zoom back out again, it's like there thinking this robot could someday be a human like friend later, IT lives with yeah, like those on musk.

IT can do anything you want. Yeah that's an exact quote from the .

that it's pretty it's a far out of idea. It's a very, very future looking and it's interesting to think about and you can count, twist that and turn that however you want like, oh yeah, I like you to do laundry for me. Yeah, I like you to do choice for me.

People are imaging all these things with IT. But you know, this one particular demo had all these these cloudy details about whether IT was real or not, which then cast out on the entire rest of the event. How much, if IT was really or not, is this robot in ever going to ship? Is this self driving demo that I did around, like the west world thing in the robot taxi, real or not? Like how much of that was.

Actually self driving, we don't really know, and maybe that's not even the point. The point is still to be optimistic about a high tech future, but IT is a public tech company holding an event to launch product. So they did make promises and lots of things that they are unsure, hoping would .

use the stock Price .

and did not. Who packet of jero and the cup was the stock falling down?

So yeah, I I came away from that like feeling like I saw a lot of things, learned a lot of things, but also can't really take too much of IT at face value. And I did eventually in the video say that I don't think this robot taxi. So the one promise that they made was this robot taxi under thirty thousand dollars shipping before twenty twenty seven, right? I just don't believe that for a second.

And the reason I say I don't believe that for a second is because they've made many very aggressive Price and timeline promises before and they don't come true. They maybe do come true for five years later, like the thirty five thousand million model three came through temporary, way, way later temporarily. But at least you can say you did IT and a cyborg truck. They did say they're going to launch at a base Price of thirty nine thousand something dollars that was going to be for a single motor base cyber truck. Yeah, it's been five years and that announcement and you can get one for anywhere near that Price.

Think best is like a preorder for seventy five thousand. But if you go straight to test this website right now, the it's ninety .

nine .

thousand .

potential savings .

is like ninety .

five thousand. And if you had to had a preorder or if you are configuring in the APP right now, but if you go to the website right now.

so the point is I spent five years in the thirty nine thousand hours. Cyber truck is still an idea, right? So when tesla says or when elon gets on stage and says, oh yeah, before twenty twenty seven will have a three thousand eleven sion to me, it's like maybe one day you will have a thirty thousand version.

But there's just no way that's going to be the priority. They're going to ship the highest margin versions they possibly can first, and it's a fleet vehicle. Maybe that's not one hundred grand, maybe that's fifty grand. But I just I am so confident that they will not hit that exact .

he he I was .

confused also by what he really thinks this is of whether it's a fleet vehicle or personal vehicle, which is like you can buy a and have a drive you, but you also can buy a fleet of IT and have your own taxi business. So I wasn't quite sure exactly what do you saying that I mean, baby, IT is both and that's yeah .

why not IT has fleet aspirations for sure. I think when you cyp this is also true. I will say that the economics of like so again, talking to some test engineers about trying to get details out of about something.

What's the range? What's the battery size? How much of this is even real? Would you what events to go to you?

I know this. I was wanted to tell the story because it's so elevate. I company OK. I was at c yes, we were getting a demo of a product, and I asked the product rap.

I said, hey, how many watches the power supply for this thing? Is that really chugging? And the product looks me dead in the ice. Salesman smile, turns to skull and goes, why would you ask that the thing is not real? IT is never going to come out.

I mean, see, yes is yeah, it's all that is yeah.

But we so wever. So I went up to the tesla engineers and started asking them specific questions like that. Wasn't sure if I was gonna get that type answer, or if they real answers.

Turns out it's somewhere between there is still some internal debate about how some of these things will pan out. This is clearly a concept vehicle. IT won't be exactly like this.

Yes, I said, what is going on with the gold paint on the wheel? And he said, the gold side, well, that will see if that makes IT to production, right? I said, what's what's the range? He said, well, we don't have a number for that.

We are two, two hundred miles. So here's where he went. He said, holistic, we're aiming for this to be the most efficient possible electric vehicle.

We can build low roling resistance tires, amazing aro like we're considering every angle and weight and detail to make IT super efficient. And so we think two hundred miles is probably A A good range to aim for. This isn't like a road tripping vehicle.

It's a taxi, right? So two hundred miles is pretty good. And we think we can get five and a half miles per kill a hour out of this battery if we get to our efficiency goals.

So i'm doing the mental math and like, that's a forty kill out our battery. That's a much smaller than typical E V battery. That's like a leaf size battery. The leaf is a cheap electric car.

I'm doing the math and like, okay, yeah, I can see how you think you could make a thirty thousand dollar E, V, if you achieve all these efficiency goals that you have in mind for this vehicle. So it's not like this in same idea that is going to be a cheap fleet E, V, with a small battery that doesn't really do road trips. IT doesn't even have a charge.

Port IT doesn't super charge at all. yeah. IT doesn't need any of the wiring or cooling. No, to support tesla super churching. I so that's a benefit .

for efficiency. But I allegedly, do you remember what happened in the event when he said it's got a inductively charge that a video play of a robot snake vacuum ing the car, and then .

he never vacuum? We all like to think of with that vacuum is like you have your flight of robot taxes. And then, just like every uber drivers, worst nightmares that drunk person throws up. And then the snake vacuum cleaners.

I was like, like because we had that discussion last week and I was like, oh, okay, inductive charging like i'm really like see what note just .

I have detail so many questions. Hit me with all of your questions. okay? Tell you what answers I know to be true versus what I learned to think to be true. okay.

So is this closer in size to a model three or like a smart car? Good question. It's right in between.

IT is significantly smarter than a model three because it's not a smart car. It's it's definitely so they move the driver position back. Yeah so you have like a real leg room, but there is no back seats. So that's right right.

Stuck in the past, man.

The front sea IT was .

kind of we are sitting .

in the front sea where the driver stuff should be and like I can't there's no petals and like reaching for nothing there.

Didn't they say there was like potentially going to be a way for because someone posed the question, is there any manual take over controls there might be that comes up on the if i'm trying .

to align Better on the world, is charger right? I just want to do a quick little manual input. And he is like, you know, there may be some controls on the screen free to adjust some things, but we really don't plan to have any manual override.

So if there's a hummer y in the wrong link and coming head on at me.

you just cross your fingers .

and go okay um if they expect people to own this, they cannot go anywhere that is not capable, right? So how capable would you like say you want to pick your kids up at school in q in line with other cars you want to like and or no? Like, how do you tell you I want to go to the mcDonald drive through instead if I want to be at in the mcDonald parking? Like.

how does any of that work? I will close elon on stage just like IT too nuances um I really do think there is a lot of edges to regular self driving that I I guess will be a prompt self like like when you go to pick up your kid at school for whatever.

So you put in the school address, let's say, in the GPS 上 的 on IT， IT navigates to the school and then you heard a button that opens IT like pulls up next to the school and maybe there's a line there so IT gets in line or maybe IT IT drives to the front of the line and realized this is a line so I like like pulls over. I don't know um I think a lot of the edges are unknown and are not meant to be thought about yet. I think again, this is I and we will be thought .

about within the next year in a house, right? okay.

So in that sound.

right, they have one other big thing they need to think about, which is regulations and the fact that they don't have. He did mention little at the end, like I forget throughout this, like if we are allowed to comment, yes, kind of the end.

Yeah, you have to get regulate approval for a level five self driving. you. They had a model three years, model wise, driving around the event as well, in the exact same way with the robot .

taxi closed backlight.

yes, playing but implying because he said stage that I think he said two states they had like A A permission to start doing text california testing of a full unsupervised driving cool um that's two states in one country in the world. That's like a very, very early start, and that will take a lot of good miles of no incidents to continue to get permissions and approval in a much more meaningful way. So yes, regulations, unknown question. We don't have the answers to that, but that is also a barrier that they will solve in the next year and a half.

Okay, another question. Yeah actually this is a multipart question. okay. OK, if IT inductively charges one and it's supposed also be run in cities, yeah, nobody in cities owns like a place to charge their car. No, no.

no, they're getting rid of parking lot.

This is one thing .

I get I know what he .

was trying to say is like what he trying, I was confused.

His thing was like a sporting arena where you would get dropped off at won't need parking lot, but then completely neglect the fact that all of these need wireless charging pad somewhere. And now we need to build other parking lots that I get are .

in different areas. And here is received dozens of semi truck loads like they need parking lot.

sorry. Yeah yeah. So here's the dream.

Other parking, I think when he put up that there was also so party was like, I was like, we don't parking lots and then he showed building a park. In the middle, an airport.

I was like, yeah.

that who is? Like, we need more Green space. We people need to go to nature or relax .

right next to airport.

What are you talk?

That one didn't make any sense, but IT was very tiny, visual. no. Okay, zoom out with me first.

Second, here's the dream. Tell me if there's any flaws in logic with this dream. Fifteen millimeter.

You have a car. Yeah, that you drive here to work. Color as I take you.

An hour, an hour, fifteen minutes. And what is your car doing? Your hard work.

It's sister and does nothing, doesn't make me any money. So you hear for a couple, a bunch of hours. Member, then, then what happens? You drive home, you get back in in your car. It's available waiting free where you left IT. You drive home, you park, then what happens? The car just doesn't make you anymore, sits there in the street and doesn't do anything, right?

So in a world .

where your car is just stay with me, fully unsupervised, self driving, capable 啊， right? IT would be plausible for IT to once you're done and get to work, he goes and pick somebody up and isn't uber for them and just makes you a couple of box here and there. There's another one, somebody come into the helipad for a tower, okay?

It's just drop in people off here over and over and you're making money all day and IT knows when you leave work. And so as soon as you will go to leave work, you walk outside. It's right where you left IT you get in and IT IT drives you home or you drive home and then IT goes back out and continues earning your money as you're sleeping. Is there any flaw .

in this charging?

So yes, the charging question is, if this is a fully soft driving car and IT post up to supercharger, who's going to apply IT in nobody? So they needed a solution. One, do you change everything? What a super that's so do you change with the saber charger to A A snake? Or do you have like an attendant plugging them in?

Or do you do inductive .

self driving so that nobody has to maintain them one percent an hour? They seem to have chosen the inductive route. I don't know that the most sufficient version actually actually think paying someone to log with Better. But he here we are being how about optimistic plexus that's actually think about that?

I think I have a question with a jersey that could work.

Yes, what is the incentive to me for me to buy the car? If it's if that's the case of everyday doing.

so the car will eventually pay for itself and start making new money. The incentive.

so I have to make money, yes, because othe wise, I could just walk outside, help in any car .

driving by there.

In a perfect world where a car I could just like take a nap on my hour commute. That sounds fantastic. Yeah, I like I know I don't wanted to come out there.

Be like I hate the idea of like having to pay attention in my whole computer. No, I would much rather watch movie. Maybe I would actually watch doing if that happened.

But I there's .

just so many other things wrong like that is not the part of hating and cool. There are ton of people who would rather take a nap in their car. They drive. There's just so many other things wrong with this.

Every single thing that this addresses is already addressed fifty times Better by a bus. It's like they also made .

not really the at the places .

in city .

ah in this city I take a .

yeah in the city .

yeah that's well the the lack of a bus existing .

does not mean the technology but does not in to those places and he's made sure of he disappoint like it's GTA be cheaper than a bus, how you can fit a hundred people in some city buses yes.

And thirty.

this is two.

What don't know when he did that was for rob. But yes, I agree. I'm just making we have the right parts here.

okay, even still, which, by the way, the robots and looks exactly like the evil troop Carrier.

They did this .

like purple I I T T I I who .

wants to wake up in the morning .

and get in their car and find starbucks cup in there like .

why yeah or yeah. I think technology aside, I don't like if you could say you could get a model three or or a robot taxi and there both capable the exact same thing. I would personally prefer to own and not have a party right. I would prefer like I can get in my car and my car drives itself and then at parks and then nobody just gets in my car because i'd prefer that that's my own and I want to drive sometimes. Yeah, the sterling .

wheel that is me. I just think I kind of don't understand the idea of individuals owning individual ones. I more understand IT in like say, a taxi company decided that they were they have face, they have their own.

Like there's a taxi parking lot right across the street from I live. There's like thirty taxi there every night, right? So like if you had a bunch of inductive charging pads, they could go out do their taxi thing throughout the day and then they come back.

That makes sense. yeah. But like why even pitch this as a thing that regular people can buy? Why not just say also your model three and model y will be able to do that?

They did say super like closed over and they felt very focused on these instead of like that actual cars.

we're gona do that. I think a lot of people were into the idea of your car making you money passively. Yeah kind of like remember like people just like my kind, my computer like minds bitcoin when it's not yeah whatever right like that person .

I love this cool. yes. I mean I also like why two seats?

Um so I I think again we are getting sort of caught in the details of IT. I think they can easily make a four person and a six person and a ten person and a twelve person version of this. I think this one is a two sitter.

And I think a lot of people's first thought was, I take cab rides with three people all the time. But this seems done. But in the case of yeah having one or two people go somewhere and they probably have some stat that some majority of taxi rides are one person or something like that fine. I didn't see any reason why I couldn't be a four seeder version of .

this of elan did say that most people are going to want two optimist bodies and all three of you cannot get in the cyber .

cap where he did said, people.

people are going probably two optimist.

why?

Why did he say anything?

He got, I don't know.

few things who's going to decide how much a robot cyber uber costs? Is the tesler decide? The owner of the cars decide? That's a little scary. Number two, if thing hit someone, who's liable, are you liable for the autonomists car that you have no controller?

I think in currently parallel case, that would be way more. But but .

nobody exactly so enters .

who .

owns IT?

If you if I drive your car to hit someone.

i'm liable. Yes.

Operating they are Operating.

They're Operating the service, right? yeah.

There is another variable that I ve talked about before, a saltram cars, which is there is the world we live in now, and then there is the perfect world that companies like tesla are hoping will exist in x number of years, where every car self driving and every car is safer because of IT. And maybe they all communicate with each other about in between is this weird world where some cars are self driving and some cars are driven by humans.

And it's actually really, really difficult to flip that ratio to get self driving cars so good among regular drivers yeah that people actually understand that there Better because they continue to be not like good at driving with mos are really good. Mos are really good. But they we see he is all the time of like someone putting a coat in the road, a bunch honking park, just weird stuff where there not as natural as maybe good human drivers because I will say the average human driver trh o trash, lets be honest, very bad. So if you can say that the average self driving car is Better than the average human.

then that's a good. The ratio is gonna the biggest problem. And this is why IT is surprising to me that we know has just our testing in new york city because there is go make sense because those streets are not that congested at all, ever. There's not that many people driving in new york and go in new york city. Yeah I mean, power to them because there is going be a lot of lots and a lot of accidents.

pretty situations. Driving car in new york is either a lot of actions or a lot of people. Yes, we are ready really good at beatings.

So i'm saying, like if I am a self driving car going through new york, this is if you you've ever driven in new year. K, you know what i'm talking about, but like people just pop out into the road all the time. There is huge pot holds.

There's insane construction like weird random pipes of hot air coming out of the subway, random self happening everywhere, right? Yeah, if I driving car, I am either cruising through all of that with near misses constantly and that looks insane, or i'm driving so slow that IT is really safe. And I am just piling up taxi cars and at me, people I can react, people are thrown. It's a good I have .

a hot take about at this whole tesla living. Yes, I think tesla is too early for all of this.

I think that's a year true.

Like I think this this world they're trying to build, I feel like is going to be what happens eventually.

I like the could have happened with well as scene if they just never throughout a day or anything .

or like just .

made IT a party was just like a man. The future seems cool. We we made some like, yes, prototypes here. Like, but throwing like this seems like fifty plus years distant future. And there is, yes, by twenty twenty seven.

this robot X I said, like, these are the concepts that we forsee, and these are the concepts that we are trying to build into our self driving capabilities of our existing cars and our optimists robots. And yes, it's not running on its own sofa right now and it's kind of control and whatever. I think that that would at least skip people excited about the way of future idealism. Ah the test is trying to build but elan even said like i'm usually pretty liberal about about delivery dates sure he did .

not say that well.

he didn't say okay. He said the correct yes um and yeah it's just why why and like clearly but the market responded .

yeah I been a really. Sick party where they didn't try. And I I know no one's gonna say that they like tried to track everyone, but there are point of people who were tricked. I saw tons of videos of people. I ve been talking to a robot right now and then everyone in the title comment like, but that's not a robot yeah that's .

a person to remote control. And I I suppose that all kind of depends on what your goal is with this event. If you're tesla, you're like trying to decide what am I actually trying to accomplish by hosting this event. If your goal is to get the public excited about teslas vision of the future, that's one thing.

If your goal is also to appear as a leader in this, like driving for, like very aggressive leader in an disrupter, in a lot of this AI and self driving stuff, that's almost kind of a separate set of things you need to do. I would have almost preferred them to do kind of what meat did. I was glasses.

They said, look, this isn't ready, but this is the amazing set of tech that we've built. And we think that if we iterate on this a little bit more, maybe in two, three more iterations, this can be ready for the public. So this this thing i'm about to show you right now, it's not ready.

But IT is the most advancing anyone's ever made. And look at that worked out for them, and that worked out great very. Because nobody y's asking about Price, nobody y's asking about release state, nobody y's asking one.

Can I buy the thing? All the people who are excited about IT are like, damn, I bet nobody else has prototypes is good. Everyone knows who's pessimistic about IT can go ha, that's never coming out and maybe they're right.

It's not going to come out long time. But they ever said this one would come out. Here is some future version that would come out.

I would have been totally happy me personally. Tesla is like, look, is the future we imagine. It's amazing. It's so far off, but we are clear the leaders on our way there. And here's a little glimpse of some of the stuff we've been building that we think is the best anyone's ever made. And I wonder if the tesla obsessives who have been sold the self driving dream for existing tesla cars would have rejected that because they believe that the cars are already fully capable of everything.

But they I don't think they would have had to rejected. They could they could have just lived in a world where they do think it's coming soon, then they would have .

to dream is like my car already has all the hardware needs. I mean, this is elan said this year after year for like ten years, whatever. Like it's hard work related first completed regulation like I can already drive itself is totally fine and many people are like up yeah my car that I own right now should be able to drive itself with no one behind stern wheel and that's up for debate.

But if you show a robot taxi that just does the same thing that the existing car really does IT doesn't feel like some new advances, amazing tech. It's just another concept car that's the only difference. But I still feel like a tesla to pull them at a and probably just spend a little more yeah this is what we've been working on.

It's also just if say this this robot taxi does come out for its cybercafe I know know whatever I say IT does come out for thirty grand and the model three like especially used is like twenty grand or right now um I would pay more money to have a car that has a steering wheel that most of the time will drive me autonomously completely.

But when I need the steering wheel, I can use the steering wheel like I would prefer that over a thing that only has two seats, that charges waist slower, that can really do road trips. Yeah, this can do richer at all, right? I can only time to IT can only work in cities. Nobody in cities lives in a house that has like a parking area where they can actually inductively charge this thing.

I mean, two hundred, if were two hundred miles, that lets say I bought IT and had the wireless pad in my garage that still could get me to .

and from work. You know, problem sh, you would not even need in.

i'm trying. But in that scenario, you would be fine if I had the searching pad IT still could get me and I don't .

live in IT could me to and from work? No problem. Things gna go quick. yeah. Anyway.

I don't know. Yeah, I I agree with you is just very, just very weird. I don't know IT seems like a stock pumping thing that didn't work out. Um can you explain the robot? Yeah, can I can I .

have a question before that? sure. Why are we calling IT robot in and robot taxi?

I don't I don't know robot taxes. I guess that's, but i've been tried.

IT sounded .

like something. He thought of that as like a joke, but I never actually called IT, I guess he said, or you could call IT.

this is IT IT like the tony stark army helmet and also the war vehicle, my robot. sure.

So in the same way that the robot taxi is, imagine a model three, but take out the steering William peddles and take out the back seats. And now it's a robot taxi. This is, imagine a sprinter van, but take out the steering William peddles and turn off the seats towards the middle.

And at that point, who needs the front of back? It's just a little little pot that rolls around through the streets. They went a little crazy with the design.

It's got like no clearance. You can even see the wheels like I don't think we expected to look like this at all. But there's yeah that's there's .

no details is the way he announced that was this is relevant. It's it's gonna like that. That's how you opened IT.

Now that I want picture .

this thing coming towards, you would not be I would .

be terrified because how how coming to guys out of IT.

like what .

time if you .

need a vehicle that .

is .

bigger than .

a .

model .

y the the roof.

the reopen .

is this is we're going to make this.

why we are going to we are going to make this and it's going to look like that.

IT sounds like see the slides before the presentation. And IT rose out.

So he goes full record more. You imagine going down the streets and you see .

this coming .

water that he said. That's pretty much he said about what .

he said we are going to make this and is going to look like this. That's just what he just said that those are the pect.

I'm sure it's GTA look .

like this.

You just what i'm convinced .

that what he says on stage isn't real. I think he's just going with the flow and trying to put on a show. There is no way that this is like I think .

he preventively thought I am in front like a they think about .

of this way. If this was any other company picture name, random car company honor. If honda rolled this out and our CEO said we're going to make this and it's gonna like this, what would your honest thought to be? No, you won't.

That's to be fair. okay.

Had a lot of people point to the type truck like, look, everyone said the cyber truck would never come out. Everyone said the cyber truck was too crazy, too radical. And look at IT now it's out and IT looks just like that.

That's fair and that's a totally fair point of being one of the people who was like I don't see why the I won't come out. It's yes, but they'll get there. What I came .

out but in the main thing was the .

original had no mears and no door. Yes, that's good. Let's not get so exactly. Yeah, that's like the model, this event.

But if the cyber track does come out, so now you see literally anything else, text max. And you it's like it's people defend anything apple does because the iphone was expensive. Well, the iphone is expensive and that worked out.

So now this new expensive thing I could is probably going to work out yeah and I don't know if that logic works with everything that they announce. I think you can look at something crazy that this company that made the cyber truck makes and go that's more extreme than the cyber truck. I don't think this is going to come out anytime.

Do you know it's less extreme than the cyber truck?

我 test .

the roadster.

sure.

And that we already know that's not coming out how they announce IT because theyve .

already reanna ced IT in announced. So I was seven years, years later, they didn't even course we had a bunch of they set up with a bunch other stuff. They had model lexis model is other cars out. I didn't see any rosters at all really. It's like just swap that on the rug, whatever they I don't know.

I I feel that tesla has a branding problem right now because the mother the model three in the wide especially are just starting to look a little old in the ooh, just because they're been around for so long. And three refresh looks great, I think looks Better.

I think what David saying is it's like .

that they don't have their new flashy thing. There are people did not. People s were out. They looked like really cool, like very sports Carry. And I feel like that would help them a lot to release the roadster just from a black branding perspective to have a halo car yeah because they don't really have, I guess, the cyberia ck as a halo car now. But it's so divisive that it's not like it's hard to look at the roads and say that looks dumb.

yeah. I think a halo car is typically super small volume and super expensive and not mass produced and really well liked in general, which they could do with. So like every every car company has something like that like even if it's just a totally random like a toyota, they might have super I mean, the super, not a super car, but they might have a crazy super hand car that you're like, oh, I would never buy that, but that's cool. I made that like .

that existed.

So if if if every car company that tries to see a car has some halo that you're never gonna, but you're like going it's taken some tech from that thing. Yes, the roads feels like I could be that yeah for tesla, but it's so low priority for them. They will literally announce a sixteen passenger self driving van before.

That looks like a nice robot military band. So yeah, cool.

Look, we all know Evans has a lot of crazy stuff. A judge in california recently said that he can say whatever he wants, and it's whatever, like the thing he said at the end of the optimists. And I have the exact quote, and we don't even need to talk about IT. I just feel like IT needs to be sad that he got on stage and said this.

the optimist section, optimist robots.

And he said they, but he was afraid optimist throw optimist robots will be producing products and services, I predict, actually, provided we address the risk, risks of digital super intelligence, eighty percent probability of good, a good outcome. Look on the bright side. The cup is eighty percent full.

The cost of products and services will decline dramatically. And basically, anyone will be able to have any products and services they want. IT will be an age of abundance, the likes of which people have not almost no one has envisioned IT will be something special.

Is that a gene?

We don't need to talk about IT. I think we should all just we should all just go to bed tonight and just remember that elon said that the eighty .

percent is like ring in my head, right? I think that he tends to do this thing where he just throws things at the wall that seem way out of reach. And sometimes they worked like the space x rocket they were about to talk about like that kind of stuff.

Yeah, awesome. incredible. And I feel like tesla was like that near the beginning of the company when he was growing at the beginning. And then for some reason, they just made this hard turn towards irobot.

U pia, right? you. Yeah.

not. Become a little bit of victim to this like looking too far ahead because of all the AI promises they have to make. And this is like the most extreme example, like you're talking about apple a couple weeks ago.

Apple is always like pretty lock step. Like here is the product now shipping. Here is the product now shipping. Now if this A I age and twenty twenty four, suddenly it's here. Is this new iphone book from the ground up with apple intelligence coming to later? What maybe I your apple .

does the the sort of other thing that they're doing here. Oh, someone about to start controlling my mouse side just got the track pad connected anyway. Apple, you remember the launch of the original, the first apple watch ultra when the pitch was just sort of like, the world is dangerous, you will die and your watch will save you. You know it's like, but like, yes, you're right. This utopia is so much more extreme than i've ever seen one of these companies do.

yeah. So IT feels to me like the more A I focused a company actually is, the more extreme and far out they have to project yeah, to feel like a leader in the space. And if your apple, you've never been expected to project crazy AI stuff, if you're a silicon valley AI starts tup, you gotta go pretty hard.

If you're google, you got got to go pretty hard. If you're tesla and you're tell you talk about A I self driving, A I like full vision, like autonomous robots walk around and you need to project further than the autonomists human robot you already showed two years ago. You've got to go so hard.

And so far, that's because like people like petie out here saying A I is a more important invention than fire. So when you when you are saying that I on decoder, so you know when you're making these statements, you have to like you kind of have to try to live up to.

And the other thing is that AI, so far, we are being told is greater than fire, but we have not seen almost any benefits from IT like outside of like what we already had from kidding. I race backgrounds of photos all the time. What I was going to say, like we've you know we are had machine learning stuff that was doing that stuff, this this new wave that may be a bubble, may not be a bubble of A I has not yet produced really much like there is some interesting stuff. There is some voice cloning stuff, inge stuff, there is fringe .

stuff for audio stuff is great. Sure, at MMA, there's a kind of interesting ai kind interesting .

A I T exit, right? Ah the .

disease detection, there's I there's much .

money being put into intelligence as a as a category. And consumers are not really seeing the benefits of IT yet that these companies have to keep saying like just wait, it's just in a couple of years, the world is gonna .

totally different before we got, but just one because we are talking about this and then maybe be realized. And this company is a sponsor of the show. They did not approve this message in anyway, where is anthropic at all of this? Like, well, all these eight google, like tesla and like R, A, I, is going to like, rip your current life to shreds and to elevate you to next one. Like a feenix like clock can like read some your emails if you want.

But their sea did just write like a manifesto about the future of the eye this weekend. IT.

I just keep seeing like i'm a product company and AI is clearly like a this title wave that's going to hit everything. So I need to turn A I into product. yes.

And so A I is had A I had incredible advancement, things like like disease controller, whatever. First we seen optimizing things in in all sorts of manufacturing and farming eeta. But if I am tesla, apple or whatever, I make products, they feel the need to like, okay, I got a packages into a product and sell.

And that's when you start getting the most extreme, weird, far fetching, not ready yet versions of. So that's where that we're trying to like analysis for good products or not. They're not done yet. We have talked and this is the last thing I promise.

This is like the time we've .

said we have like talked about before how it's insane that apple's marketing is like the first phone built up with like ground up rapper intelligence. On the sixteen I literally saw an ad on because I was like, I know there was a football thing happening at the wedding that I was at the other night. And like, they had an ad where IT was an apple ad and there was a person that they grabbed iphone like, yeah, apple intelligence on the iphone sixteen is pretty cool and he like they just showed him and he was saying it's cool and it's like, but you if unless you use a beta, you can use IT at all yeah, i've never that's .

insane like he didn't have apple intelligence.

He didn't. Didn't you .

can the person .

watching that intelligence on the new iphone sixteens really, really awesome. And I was just like, but it's not out and you're telling people to buy the phone now but it's not it's I don't know anyway that I just I I just thought that was crazy that they were actually leaning into the this phone has apple on intelligent IT? Does not.

I think we live in an age of abundant guys.

That's true. We truly live in .

an age of one like to live in abundance of rockets.

Tribe question is just, what about the rocket?

O i'll do really, really good. Yeah, we've tried to talk about .

space up on here before.

SpaceX caught a seventy meter stage falling back to earth with .

this thing called chopsticks and .

can do an hour on test.

Because IT is pretty amazing. It's prety safe.

Before this very special trivia question we hear of the way from podcasts, i'd like to wish you, paul George, as pet recoveries, the birds don't worry about IT. Um today's review a question last week to do to mark z ones. So I figured this day will do this day today will do Andrew question and David next week Andrew is very .

so trivial question.

Which of the following countries does not currently have a talk obel location within its borders? Would you like the list now? Or at the end?

What's here?

A three longer. A, B. cyprus. c. Finland or d mexico.

Single bell and looks like a they just called that. American food does not .

have a talk through these countries. You can get a cn rop supreme.

one of supreme.

I will double check the menu. You can definitely no, not sorry. So the .

question is talk about the yeah .

which which one does not have a single talk about location. Currently they could have historically had talk bells and not that cause .

this is a pear guess from me and about you ah yeah will think about that a little bit, but we will be back back for the break.

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We've talked a lot about far off future software not yet delivered products that consumers may eventually get their hands on someday. Let's something is happening right now, which is advancements in rockets. okay.

I just to put in context, you guys have heard this bill before, probably, but if anyone's not been paying attention, rockets have been single use for forever, and they're really, really big and really expensive. And you launch a rocket and drop down into the ocean, and that's IT. You don't get to use a boost for anymore.

You got to build another one, right? So space sex was built around this idea of reducing rocket boosters. Totally cool idea. But how do you reuse a rocket if IT lands in the ocean? Well, you land IT somewhere after IT launches, and then use that again.

You referred to shit, fill the back up a field and send IT back to space again, dramatically reducing the cost per launch of sending things in the space. Incredible idea. But like engineering wise, that sounds crazy.

And then we started to see them actually pull this off. They started doing tests. They started doing test launches of, like just iraq, a booster flying up in the space and then lowering itself back down of the launch. Pt, and that was incredible. IT was on the pad in the ocean, yeah, first from the pad in the ocean, now, even in the space, a few hundred feet coming back down, landing that.

Sorry, just to correct, IT launched from the launch patch and landed .

on the pad notion before all that, before all that, just launching from the ground up a few hundred feet and then coming back down. Just that. amazing.

We've never seen that before. Whole life they did IT. Then they started launching higher and coming back down the launching lining in the same spot.

But of course, rockets scale goes hard. So if you go really, really high up, the earth literally rotates underneath you. You can learn the same spot.

So they would land on a different location, for they took off, and IT would be like up a launching pad in the middle, the ocean that would land. And IT would actually work. And they kept getting further and further and more and more impressive.

And they seem to have gotten increasingly good at this because the latest version of this, which we've just witnessed, was, I want to say, the biggest rocket ever. So two hundred feet tall, that's a building size rocket. That's twenty story building.

So wherever you live right now, look outside and see if you can find the nearest story building. And imagine that taking off, flying up in the space, getting some cargo into orbit, and then lowing itself back down to the same launchpad word took off where I got caught by the tower that I took off from. So IT literally had these giant arms that just closed in and caught the rocket.

Yeah, the rocket is two hundred feet tall. Yeah, this is the coolest thing i've ever seen. Yes, I wish I actually saw in person with my eyes. I have spent a long time, so I watched A, A rocky launch in person. But this might be the close same thing ever I would have loved to see you.

I just seeing the video, like on the time had my job. Deo.

don't they can do a justice there because you can't. There's no scale. So you're seeing this a rocket shape thing coming back down.

But then you see, like the cellphone videos of people who are like maybe a few hundred miles away and you can see this like building falling out of sky with like rock is coming out of IT. It's kind of sick. yeah. So i'm sure I got some of the details wrong. Unlike the progression of like how they launch he's rockets and land them but do their landing rockets in giant twister.

What my favorite about this is that the tweet ers close on IT, but IT just has these little too like cabbage, like linchpin things that are barely judged out of the two twenty story building that hold the whole thing up, like slowly lands on on the twisters as the twisters close.

So originally was supposed to be landing on its own legs, which I think is I with the falcon nine one in the ocean. Yeah, but I guess they just decided he was so big and getting back that is easier there. There are specific load bearing point just to catch.

which is great because the points were very small .

and IT held up as the rotation has to be current, IT comes in from the side. So if you're going paralo at that.

what doesn't? what? What's the twenty story? Two hundred foot math? crazy.

what? What is a nice math? cos? How told I for tower, a thousand feet tall? Okay.

that's a little.

All the statute liberty. Imagine the statue. liberty.

Actually, that would be.

So really.

that is blowing off in this space right now is three hundred.

all with the top of the torch. So, like lady liberty herself, is probably to interface tall. Imagine the entire lady liberty flying start. But then you have to catch star is hundred .

and fifty five times the booster that IT caught is two hundred. And 哦， yeah, oh, the stage that fell back .

down because starship still.

when I believe in this launch, around the atmosphere and landing indian ocean.

So the total height is like three hundred and sixty five.

I don't know. The total hates because I don't know. I don't think it's directly on top of each other .

of four hundred feet. Yes, our ship total is four hundred feet.

he notes. Yeah, everything combined is is like some insane massive thing.

But just the rocket boost is it's crazy. Like imagine that like lady liberty launching her to space. You have much like fuel. You need to do that to just get that thing out into orbit. And then imagine that falling in down and adding to also still .

have few leftover to push IT, to slow.

to slow IT down like that.

And I know I know nothing, really nothing about rocket science. yeah. But I in some of the books I ve or audio book.

I think actually in some of the .

idea books i've heard is just IT obviously as an sand science experiment. But all the things that can go wrong usually end in all the evidence being exploded, which is a unique chAllenge. Like everything about, I don't know, you fail at something and you can sort of a met, you can look at what you did and see, okay, I was putting a puzo together.

As peace didn't fit, I could pull out and pull back together. But in rocket science, ya'll be like, oh, we realized that the fuel was slashing too much as IT changed directions. And that's why the whole thing exploded. We'll put IT back together, but like change the angles of some of the like fins inside the fuel tanks so that doesn't slash as much when to goes back down yeah and they'll figure that out from the like remains on migrate. This is same yeah .

to the .

fact that all worked out and that that was the first .

try for this rocket. Um this impressed every single person on the planet except versions.

Ae, okay.

I need to know this. This is not the most interesting part of, oh, because I .

don't pressure. So your rocket scientists that don't impressed me so much, I thought .

you actually commented on IT.

So you've got the brains, but do you have the touch? ander?

I think I think .

I have you guys about this. Ah so like IT protects like well like two hours an hour to go, fifteen minutes to take to go all away around IT, forty five minutes o so IT takes IT takes forty five minutes to go up round the world when I back down, right that gives you know twenty three hours and fifty minutes where your rocket can be making a month.

So I also driving and and there was a point time .

in which .

elon said that you would be able to get to china in like forty minutes on a rocket like this. He did say this don't have to practise everything yeah that's like, I know us but yeah all this to say congrats to everyone is space this incredible water? And I recommend watching youtube.

And thank you to Scott manly and two and thirteen for coming up with this idea. And that's a reference six people will get and I love you for IT.

None of those people are in this room.

They are. They are everytime.

Mention curbs space program.

This happened. And one of like the original, like super legende turbo space program, what's plays like this two hundred part series where he wouldn't let a single part get destroyed like every single part had to get returned to earth, and then like eventually, the rockets did become very usable, where like he never actually, like, loaded them back into the game, he just loaded a fuel .

truck that .

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what else? Start to the same letter .

is awesome animatronics adobe E A doby.

okay. Every year.

adobe has a conference called the doby max. It's basically their little conference where they show up all the new updates to all their creative apps. I was there last year. That's where they introduced the whole content credential thing in a bunch of other stuff. Wish we made a video about on the suda channel.

Um now adobe is definitely in A I company yeah because every update they make now is an A I update there are in um I do want to say there is something interesting. Um this is quoting directly from the verge. That's an article. It's a like a mini article.

Adobe looks to a new era for general AI after joking about AI being a drinking game trigger at max, adobe cheap product officer said the company is moving away from the prompt era of the tech, which cheapened and undermine the craft of creative professionals. By generating things from text descriptions um which is interesting because a lot of these things are text based updates. But okay, if this is true, if they're actually moving away from the like, type something and do a text box and generated because nobody really wants that like some people do.

But it's not a cool demo. What yeah the coolest things, I think that they shot off at max were things that were kind of just magic behind the scenes, A I updates that made a lot of things easier to do that people like create a professionals already want to do you. So we can either go through all the updates from each platform or we can just go through some of the interesting geni.

I mean, I will all have with the one thing I saw, which is um on my twitter of time and I I think someone put in slack k there's a video of a composition tool that's like built into photoshop. So we keep talking about how the barrier for entry for light tools gets just a little bit lower er, with each of them like you click the button on your phone, you can race the background of a photo.

This one is like full on yeah composition, heavy editing, but built into photoshop. So you need to have a photoshop. I know how to use IT, but the tool was like, I dragged a png of me into this background image of a table, and I hit, remove background, and I just perfectly remove the background.

And then I hit, I forget what the butter's name was. I was like synthesize or something. Yeah, like that harmonized, harmonized SHE hit the harmonized ed button.

And the harmonized button did all of the work of matching two different images in a composition effect, which takes typically a lot of work, a matching lighting, matching exposure, matching color, and just blended the two p ng together that that looked like the subject in the background. And he did that with a couple of different objects until he created a scene. And then the scene was just formed out of there.

So wasn't a real image, was just something SHE made with this harmonize tool. And that felt like stuff i've seen from some of the more AI forward editors, not from photoshop. So you can tell a dobie turn on the page and like really embracing OK seems like our users actually want to use this stuff. Let's give them the best weekend.

Very impressive because that understands the lighting IT understands like the spacing of things and a cash shadows. In the example, SHE puts herself in the scene with her boyfriend that lives across the world. And he uses a picture of her which has like different kinds of lighting on her face because it's a photo of her like in front of, I don't know, some sort of blinds or something.

And IT completely gets rid of all those shadows and makes IT so IT looks like they have the same lighting source on them, very cool. I'd need to note that this is, uh, project perfect blend and their projects are not yet available and not yet ready or going to be available in the near future. Like metal yeah but yeah, this is like during their sneak event where they basically say this is technology we're working on.

We will probably have this with the next couple of years. No formerly state yes but but adobe does generally ship this stuff within like a year to after they show IT off, which was quite cool. They also had another um interesting, I think that Alice is got very excited about .

that was an audio generation. This is just more because kind of a reference to something we talk about all the time on the party here but there is one called fine distractions which in this video that they show is essentially a photo of that from to go yeah from score of all the houses. But there's a ton of parallel es in the way, and they can find the parallel es and remove all of them without having to select you.

Just click find distractions. IT finds them and mask over all of them. And IT feels so much like the chain link fence from yeah years ago. Yes, pretty awesome. You don't select each each .

one so awesome. Um yes. okay. So the other like big A I think that they had IT was a audio one where you built to basically he was like an animation tool and they had these animations of these.

yeah.

So they had these animations of these, like dinosaurs, and they wanted to produce these bars for them. And so the idea is like, you can sort of generate a sound based on a text prompt any a vocal input. So the guy on stage goes, rr, the idea is that IT takes like the intonation and the intensity and all of the things that you are voicing, and then IT generates a sound based on the text input.

So he said, like dinosaur r or something. And IT created a very, very cool dinosaur. Raw is that way that's what you were excited yeah I think so yeah .

because he said .

you'd be in the auto room p .

piling a lot yeah I mean.

there's definitely like certain me like .

when you're sound designing IT can be you can have a sound in your head and then you can be like, I actually don't know what that sound is like. One of the hardest ones for me was like the apple vision pro cinematic control, the shot of the band tightening. Like that's essentially silent.

You so like what? And like I had of a thing I heard like ratchet and like fabric rubbing on each other, but it's what actually what you search, you know. And so yeah, so be easy to .

disk like you. So but .

will I get what I get? IT. Is this a thing?

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what are they going to make this .

like that probably in a couple years?

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oh, I see by twenty we are going there. Yes, may.

Yeah, yeah.

Definitely adobe, if you want to. I would like to play .

in premiere. They now have generated expands, which is where you can extend a clip either at from the beginning or end by up to two seconds. Unfortunately, you can only do ten A D, P at twenty four F P S. For now. Um interesting. I guess this could be useful if you just have like if you walk out of the room and there's like a plant moving and IT just makes IT continue to move if you just need slightly more be rule or something.

This is good for all those people in camera who like to cut immediately after the action happens yeah, which is wait to many people yeah yeah. Is this available right now?

This this one is this is available right? I think this is in up day yeah um they have image to video on web where you can use text prompts with a source image to make bureaux photos, which is interesting um they showed this example of this astronaut taking out a eternel port from like a from like a cable array um or a hard driver rate or something and they had IT like extend the clip and also generate part of the clip in IT IT did not look good IT definitely looked very like as he's taking the cable out the ether net poor is just sort warbling in this like a really weird way so I don't you know I think this one of these things that was also a tech demo that we've actually get Better.

Surprisingly, this is actually available uh, limited to five seconds at seven twenty p though which seven twenty p is not I don't think anyone wants to, is a seven twenty p clip maybe for web I don't know. Uh and then in light room, they added a bunch of instant edit options that are like those magic edits that google photos has classes. And my take on this is they're trying to get more people in the subscription real mart get trying to get more people to use their services as more often, because light room has traditionally been structured as a like professional tool, and now all of these apps like google photos and apple photos are adding these like editing tools built in.

And because lightning m is a subscription service, people are using google photos and apple photos more. So I think that they want people to understand, like light room can be a power user tool. But we also now introducing all these auto edit button that can make IT so you can stay in our ecosystem. Um yeah that was like most of the very big stuff. So they also had like a three look at two to three d animation thing for um was IT called the thing that tim uses a lot.

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off against A I again pretty soon around two, round two.

Use the cover. I think that. Like last year, he was last year was just so crich because I was all like texas image based stuff and they were trying to combe with and everything that they were doing felt like I was like not enabling creativity but replacing creativity ah this year, they definitely had more things that felt like they modified or made easier tasks that already had to do. And the fact that one of their their chief product officer who said they are moving more towards ds, that direction I think is a good direction to head towards. Um so I have .

one maybe far out question OK. Does this potentially make people Better at editing or worse, said editing because they .

don't won't skills to do IT by hand as yeah like or because if .

this tool gets really, really good like some of the examples I saw were people just tossing in, like ingredients that shouldn't ever be blended. Like if I was going to a composite three photos ther, I would at least try to match the lighting and like, try to match the angles, but you don't even have to. With these, I feel like I would get worse at this because of using a good tool. But the results are so good that it's Better than what I could have made. So i'm getting Better.

Are you all set math because you can use a calculator?

Yes, yes, yes.

I am.

but i'm getting the answers Better. I think exactly. I think .

even with all these examples, someone who is very good if editing would still do a Better job, or someone who put the effort to match the lighting in the photo would do a Better job, I thought was still pretty obvious. Those people were, they get into the photo.

but he was good. Would they get a Better result .

if you have spent the extra time free, like taking the photos? I guess we matching letting, I think so. I I do agree that I think a lot of this seems like IT would help with like, uh, the busy work aspects of things.

So IT make you Better at editing in the sense you could try hit a deadline faster of getting rid of the things that are just like super like menu that just take forever like this. You were kind of stuff. But yeah, over time, those are things that keep sharp and the keep you like continually working and finding Better way. So yeah, maybe worse.

you are relinquish rol of the creative aspect in order order to have to be more efficient because the result that gives you could be Better or worse, but that depends on what you are bar for. Quality is .

magic one.

yeah. So yeah, I don't know. I think that the composing area of like movie production and that kind of stuff has been very quickly being being being like automated by artificial intelligence, especially movies like you can keep things instantly. Now it's crazy. Um and the people that I had a friend that was working at a movie studio and his for like four years he was an intern and all he was doing was mask.

oh god, I can do there's a plugging now emotion, the effects that lets me do automatic scoping. Just click this subject and IT tracks forward through all the frames and IT does a moving mask cut out for me and automatically and it's really good. It's accurate.

Does individual hairs well, I will never need to earn how you are scoping now damp? Yeah that's yeah. So it's good.

I find interesting because we talked a lot about googles uh, reimagine feature, right? And there has been this big discussion around the access that you have to creating something that is not real. And this is sort of an in between because with google, IT was like, it's on your phone, everyone as a phone, everyone can use google photos.

It's a button White wag or a pixel nine or whatever. The difference here is there is a little bit of a barrier because you have to kind of understand how to use photoshop in general, because you have to understand layers. You have to understand like cropping and putting things on.

It's still obviously like creating the opportunity for people to make things way faster. I think there's going to be positives and negatives that come from that capability, but at least there's the barrier of needing to have a creative tool. Sounds like what a CEO would say. Well.

i'm not funny if that's where David was last week accepting his position. See you .

over you anyway. So yeah definitely somebody keeping I want to see like much of the stuff actually ships and when he does and how good IT is, how how useless is to maybe some of our work for yeah and then we will talk to him, make videos with hello well.

I think that's .

about IT for this week. A lot of A I stuff, a lot of driving, a lot of photoshop stuff, a lot of late room premier and kindle.

So color gets up. We should .

end up with, of course, a some total shot, man, dark guesses as some .

trivial .

questions they are with kindles.

What a journey week. I wasn't last week.

Quick updates .

on the score. Markets with twenty and you're David tied at twenty two are right?

You guys get points last week two.

I M, I got two.

I think so that, okay.

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question, when was the first kindle alright, making about .

this first kindle down?

The actual question .

was how many years has have been since the first kindle?

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songs were popular actually .

when you .

held your first kindle.

I never owned a kindle.

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Nope.

I put two thousand four.

Two thousand four. No, I getting close. Not going over though. Andrew gets the .

point was two thousand seven. I was pretty close rushing number two.

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