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Inside Syria’s security apparatus by a journalist once held

2024/12/14
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Suleiman Khalidi: 我在2011年被派往叙利亚德拉报道反政府抗议活动,亲眼目睹了叙利亚安全部队对和平抗议者的暴力镇压。随后,我被叙利亚秘密警察逮捕,并在达马斯革的秘密警察总部关押了四天,期间遭受了殴打和电击等酷刑。我听到其他囚犯遭受酷刑的惨叫,亲身体验了叙利亚安全部门的残酷和非人道。我获释后,写下了我在狱中听到和看到的经历,揭露了叙利亚安全部门对囚犯的系统性虐待和人权侵犯。阿萨德政权垮台后,我看到许多获释囚犯及其家属的照片,这让我再次感受到叙利亚冲突的残酷和不人道,也让我庆幸自己能够幸存下来。我仍然对阿萨德政权的垮台感到难以置信,希望叙利亚能够走上和解的道路,而不是复仇和报复。 Tara Oakes: 本期节目采访了路透社驻约旦和叙利亚首席记者Suleiman Khalidi,他于2011年在叙利亚被捕。我们将了解他在叙利亚安全部门内部目睹的人性毁灭以及政权垮台后的感受。采访内容可能涉及酷刑和虐待,听众需谨慎。 叙述者: 叙利亚内战初期,平民遭受了巨大的苦难;阿萨德政权垮台后,数千名囚犯获释,揭露了其残酷的统治;叙利亚政府否认酷刑和法外处决的指控,但Suleiman Khalidi认为自己被捕的理由是虚假的;路透社致力于新闻自由,记者应该能够在不受骚扰或伤害的情况下报道新闻。 路透社发言人: 路透社致力于新闻自由,记者必须能够在公共利益的驱使下自由报道新闻,而不必担心在任何地方受到骚扰或伤害。

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What were the initial protests in Daraa about in 2011?

The protests began as a response to the arrest of teenagers who had written graffiti calling for the downfall of Assad. Residents demanded their release, leading to clashes with security forces.

How did the situation in Daraa escalate after the initial protests?

The protests escalated when thousands gathered at the funerals of those killed by security forces, calling for the regime's downfall. Security forces responded with gunfire, leading to further violence and the beginnings of the Syrian conflict.

Why did Suleiman Khalidi initially think the protests would be suppressed?

He believed the protests would be suppressed because, under Assad, Syria had a history of forcefully clamping down on dissent, and the regime's security apparatus was known to be brutal and pervasive.

What was the immediate aftermath of Suleiman's arrest in 2011?

Suleiman was taken to an intelligence facility in Damascus, where he was held, beaten, and subjected to electric shocks during four days of interrogation.

How did Suleiman Khalidi describe the conditions inside the detention center?

He described hearing the anguished cries of inmates being tortured at night and witnessing the human degradation of prisoners. He was held in solitary confinement and received only small pieces of bread.

What helped Suleiman endure the torture he experienced?

He drew on his prior experience meeting torture victims during his time in Kuwait, which helped him develop a mental resilience to cope with the pain.

How did Suleiman Khalidi manage to secure his release from detention?

His release was facilitated by the intervention of the King of Jordan and Queen Rania, who contacted Assad and his wife on his behalf.

What was Suleiman's reaction to seeing the images of released prisoners after Assad's downfall?

He felt a mix of sadness and gratitude, reflecting on how he could have been one of those released prisoners if he had not survived his own detention.

How did Suleiman feel when he reported on Assad's downfall in 2024?

He experienced a sense of disbelief, shaking as he typed the news, unable to fully comprehend the rapid collapse of the regime he had once witnessed suppressing protests.

What does Suleiman believe will shape Syria's future after the fall of Assad?

He believes the memories of the regime's brutality and the images of suffering will influence Syria's path, hopefully leading to reconciliation rather than revenge.

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Reuters journalist Suleiman al-Khalidi )was arrested by Syrian security police in 2011 during an uprising against President Bashar al-Assad. Hear what al-Khalidi witnessed back then and what it was like to see prisoners freed after Assad’s downfall.)

You can read Suleiman's account of his detention from 2011 here).

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