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Angela Merkel on Putin’s dog and Trump’s handshake

2024/11/25
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安格拉·默克尔在任期间,致力于国际合作,领导了应对移民危机的行动。她与普京和特朗普的互动,以及她对2015年难民危机的处理,都体现了她独特的领导风格和外交策略。默克尔认为,在与特朗普打交道时,必须明确表达自身利益,才能找到妥协点,因为特朗普不相信双赢的谈判模式。她还谈到了她与普京的复杂关系,以及她试图通过明斯克协议来控制乌克兰冲突的努力。默克尔不后悔德国对俄罗斯能源的依赖,她认为这既有利于德国工业,也有利于维持与俄罗斯的和平关系。她认为,如果乌克兰加入北约,会更早引发军事冲突,而且乌克兰当时的准备不足。在处理2015年难民危机时,默克尔优先考虑的是人的尊严。她认为减少非法移民是应对德国极右翼政党崛起最好的方法,并强调了与土耳其达成的协议的有效性。默克尔认为英国脱欧是欧洲的耻辱,削弱了欧洲的力量。她建议年轻人要与不同观点的人交流,并倾听他们的意见。 卡蒂娅·阿德勒作为采访者,对默克尔的观点进行了深入的探讨和分析,并提出了相关的问题。她对默克尔与普京、特朗普等世界领导人的互动进行了详细的描述,并分析了默克尔在处理这些复杂关系中的策略和考量。她还探讨了默克尔在难民危机中的决策及其影响,以及默克尔对欧盟未来发展方向的看法。

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This chapter explores Angela Merkel's interactions with Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin, highlighting her strategies for dealing with their distinct leadership styles and geopolitical agendas. It also examines her decisions regarding energy dependence on Russia and Ukraine's NATO membership.
  • Merkel's strategies for dealing with Trump involved clear communication and representing German interests.
  • Her relationship with Putin was marked by early attempts at peaceful relations, but also a recognition of his power-driven agenda and desire to roll back Western influence.
  • Merkel's decisions on energy dependence on Russia and Ukraine's NATO membership are analyzed in the context of their impact on European security.

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The BBC sits down with the former German chancellor. For nearly two decades Angela Merkel was one of the most influential politicians and most powerful women on in the world. Now, three years after stepping down, what does she make of the current state of world politics – from the threat posed by Russia, to the return of Donald Trump, and the rise of the far right in Europe?

On this episode, the BBC's Europe Editor, Katya Adler, tells Caitríona Perry what she learned from her interview with Angela Merkel in Berlin, including the ex-chancellor's experiences with Vladimir Putin, and her handling of the 2015 migrant crisis.

Producers: Peter Goffin and Alix Pickles

Sound engineers: Gareth Jones

Assistant editors: Sergi Forcada Freixas and Richard Moran

Senior news editor: Sara Wadeson