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Why Things Could Get Worse for EV Startups

2024/12/6
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一名专注于技术和未来趋势的记者和播客主持人,目前工作于《华尔街_journal》。
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Danny Lewis介绍了AI数据中心巨大的能源和水资源消耗,以及由此带来的环境和公共形象问题。Bart Ziegler通过Julie Chang转述了AI公司为降低能耗和耗水所采取的措施,包括研发更高效的处理器芯片、使用非饮用水冷却数据中心以及优化算法等。Amrith Ramkumar分析了电动汽车初创公司面临的困境,包括高昂的生产成本、下降的消费者需求以及特朗普政府可能取消电动汽车税收抵免和减少政府补贴等政策。他指出,这些公司在特朗普当选之前就已经面临挑战,许多公司已经破产,而特朗普政府的政策可能会进一步加剧这些公司的困境。他还提到了中国电动汽车公司在成本和技术方面的竞争优势,以及这可能会对美国电动汽车初创公司构成的威胁。 Amrith Ramkumar详细阐述了电动汽车初创公司面临的困境,指出高昂的生产成本、下降的消费者需求以及高利率是导致许多公司破产的主要原因。他分析了特朗普政府可能取消电动汽车税收抵免和减少政府补贴等政策对这些公司造成的负面影响,并指出这些政策可能会进一步加剧这些公司的困境。他还提到了中国电动汽车公司在成本和技术方面的竞争优势,以及这可能会对美国电动汽车初创公司构成的威胁。他认为,即使在特朗普当选之前,许多电动汽车初创公司就已经在苦苦挣扎,而特朗普政府的政策可能会对这些公司造成致命打击。

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Why could AI's demand for electricity and water pose challenges for the industry?

AI data centers consume up to 4% of U.S. electricity annually, projected to rise to 12% by 2030. By 2027, AI's water demand for cooling could exceed Denmark's annual usage, causing logistical and public image issues.

How are AI companies addressing the high energy consumption of their data centers?

Companies like NVIDIA are developing more energy-efficient processor chips, with NVIDIA's latest model being 25 times more efficient than its predecessor. Major AI sponsors like Amazon, Google, Meta, and Microsoft are also designing their own energy-efficient chips.

What strategies are AI companies using to reduce water consumption in data centers?

AI companies are exploring the use of non-potable water sources, such as wastewater from local septic systems or industrial discharge water, to cool their data centers instead of municipal water supplies.

How might President-elect Trump's administration impact EV startups?

Trump's administration could eliminate the $7,500 federal tax credit for EVs, which is crucial for startups with higher production costs. Additionally, grants and loans from the Department of Energy may be cut, and proposed tariffs could increase input costs for these already cash-strapped companies.

Why were EV startups struggling even before the presidential election?

EV startups faced falling consumer demand, rising costs, and higher interest rates, leading to a series of bankruptcies. Many companies had set unrealistic growth expectations during the low-interest-rate COVID era, which they failed to meet, causing investor sell-offs.

What role might Chinese EV companies play in the global market?

Chinese EV companies like BYD and CATL are seen as leaders in the industry, offering superior products at lower costs. If the U.S. deprioritizes the EV sector, China's lead could grow, potentially leaving the U.S. behind in the global EV market.

Shownotes Transcript

Rising costs, supply-chain issues and cooling consumer demand were hammering electric-vehicle startups even before the November election. WSJ reporter Amrith Ramkumar explains how President-elect Donald Trump’s return to the White House could squeeze) them even more. Plus, the data centers required for training and operating artificial intelligence models need huge amounts of electricity and water. We’ll hear how AI companies are trying to cut back) on their resource needs. Danny Lewis hosts.

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