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'I bought a drone and killed my boss - it was easy'

2024/12/20
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Arthur Scott-Geddes
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Roland Oliphant
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Roland Oliphant: 我在播客中探讨了无人机技术对21世纪战争的影响,以及其在乌克兰、苏丹和中东等冲突中的作用。这项技术已经从世界最富有的国家的专属玩具发展成为一种普遍存在的武器,并且人工智能的出现使得任何人都可以制造自主的杀手机器人。这引发了对暗杀和更大规模破坏的担忧,我们必须探讨如何控制这项技术,并防止其落入坏人之手。 Arthur Scott-Geddes: 我通过一个实验,用一个市面上可以买到的廉价无人机,结合网上可以免费获取的软件,制造了一个可以进行"暗杀"的装置,以此说明这项技术易于获得和使用。这并非科幻小说,而是我们正在面临的现实。 Zachary Callenborn: 我认为新兴的无人机群技术可能成为大规模杀伤性武器,与以往的核、生、化武器一样令人担忧。其极强的破坏力和难以控制性,使其符合大规模杀伤性武器的定义。 Stuart Russell: 我认为可以通过对无人机制造商和软件进行监管来控制无人机技术的扩散,类似于化学武器的管控方式。此外,可以使用不可重新编程的芯片来限制无人机武器化。阻止无人机技术扩散的障碍在于军事力量的自主性和国家间的信任问题。 James Patton Rogers: 我认为我们将看到一个新的暗杀时代到来。马杜罗和伊拉克总理的遇刺企图已经证明了这一点。无人机不仅被用作致命的打击工具,还被用于更广泛的策划活动。未来,公众人物的活动将受到更严格的保护,以防范无人机袭击。 supporting_evidences Arthur Scott-Geddes: 'Well, there are many reasons why someone would want to do something like that to Paul, but the reason we did it was to make the point about how easy this is to do now, basically.' Zachary Callenborn: 'Global concerns about weapons of mass destruction really stem from two primary factors. Of course, the extreme destructiveness, you know, imagine Nagasaki, Hiroshima, the extreme explosions, but also the concerns about lack of control.' Stuart Russell: 'The precursors of chemical weapons are ordinary industrial chemicals. And so part of the Chemical Weapons Convention policy includes requirements that national governments impose constraints on the chemical industry.' James Patton Rogers: 'I do think that we'll see the emergence of a new age of assassinations. I think the Maduro attempt highlighted that. Attempts on Iraq's prime minister has highlighted that.'

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Why did Arthur Scott-Geddes create an autonomous killer drone?

To demonstrate how easy it is to weaponize drone technology using readily available software and hardware, making a point about the potential dangers of autonomous weapons falling into the wrong hands.

How much did the drone used in the experiment cost?

The drone cost 99 euros, and the software used was free, making it accessible to anyone with basic coding knowledge.

What was the purpose of the drone experiment with facial recognition?

The experiment aimed to show how a drone could be programmed with facial recognition to target a specific individual, highlighting the ease of creating autonomous killer drones.

How have drones transformed warfare according to the podcast?

Drones have made warfare more intense by providing precise destructive power to anyone who can afford them, leveling the playing field and giving non-state actors new capabilities for reconnaissance and assassination.

Why might drones make killing easier for soldiers?

Drones remove the physical risk to the operator, dehumanizing the act of killing by allowing soldiers to engage in warfare from a distance, often through screens, similar to playing a video game.

What are the concerns about drone swarms becoming weapons of mass destruction?

Drone swarms could potentially cause mass destruction due to their large numbers and autonomous decision-making, which could lead to catastrophic mistakes and lack of human control over targeting.

What measures could help control the proliferation of drone technology?

Regulations could include restricting the sale of drones to known buyers, mandating non-reprogrammable chips (ASICs) in drones, and monitoring the chemical industry similarly to how chemical weapons are controlled.

What are some examples of drone-based assassinations?

Nicolás Maduro in Venezuela and Iraq's Prime Minister have both been targeted with drone attacks, indicating a rise in drone-based assassination attempts.

What challenges do security services face in countering drone threats?

Security services are not fully prepared for the rise of drone threats, and while countermeasures like electronic warfare and drone guns exist, they are not yet sufficient to stop all drone incursions.

What is the key takeaway from the podcast about autonomous drones?

The podcast emphasizes that autonomous drones are no longer science fiction; they are a reality in modern warfare, and there is a growing need to address their potential as weapons of mass destruction.

Chapters
This chapter explores the emergence of drone technology as a significant force in modern warfare, highlighting its accessibility and potential for mass destruction. The experiment of building a drone assassination device for a symbolic purpose is discussed, emphasizing the ease of weaponizing readily available technology.
  • Drone technology is rapidly evolving and becoming accessible to various actors, including non-state actors.
  • AI-powered drones, initially science fiction, are now a reality.
  • The ease of building a lethal drone is demonstrated through a real-world experiment.

Shownotes Transcript

As mysterious drone sightings )near US military bases continue to unsettle anxious citizens, we look into what a new drone age means for the future of warfare. The flying objects have been defining the battlefield for a while, dominating the wars in Ukraine, Sudan and the Middle East. But now, with the advent of Artificial Intelligence, anyone can build an autonomous killer drone. So could this herald a new age of assassinations and mass destruction? How can it be controlled? And can it be kept out of the wrong hands?

The Telegraph’s Arthur Scott-Geddes tells Roland Oliphant how he turned a toy into an assassination device) and why more conversation around containing this technology is needed.

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