The hosts discuss anxiety because it is a universal experience, especially in creative and entrepreneurial fields. They explore how anxiety can be a protective mechanism and share personal experiences of managing anxiety in their respective careers as an artist and a stand-up comedian.
The Shanghai Book City is significant because it is where the hosts first connected. Wan Yuchen is the art consultant for the book city, and Shi Yan's comedy club is located there, making it a shared space that symbolizes their professional and personal connection.
They highlight the challenges of running a bookstore in China because selling books is highly unprofitable due to low reading rates. Many bookstores, including state-owned ones, struggle to survive, leading to significant financial losses and the need to diversify their business models.
Shi Yan describes the pressure of maintaining a consistent podcast schedule as a significant source of anxiety. He feels compelled to avoid breaks and always ensures he has enough content recorded to prevent gaps in updates, especially for his podcast 'Bu Kaixiao'.
Wan Yuchen reveals that creativity often comes with anxiety, especially for artists and comedians who fear failure and success. She emphasizes that anxiety is a natural part of the creative process and can be managed by setting small, achievable goals.
The hosts view social media as a major source of anxiety, particularly when comparing oneself to others. They suggest limiting exposure to social media and avoiding the trap of seeing others as competitors, which can exacerbate feelings of inadequacy.
The hosts advise managing anxiety in creative work by focusing on small, consistent achievements rather than aiming for immediate success. They also recommend finding hobbies or interests outside of work to provide a mental break and reduce stress.
Shi Yan describes the anxiety of being a comedian as stemming from the need to constantly observe and interpret the world, while only being able to turn a small portion of those observations into successful material. This creates a pressure to perform and deliver humor consistently.
The hosts believe that anxiety about success is as significant as anxiety about failure. They argue that fear of success can hinder progress and that it is essential to overcome this fear to achieve long-term goals and maintain creative momentum.
The hosts suggest dealing with the anxiety of being judged by others by focusing on personal growth and not letting external validation dictate one's self-worth. They emphasize the importance of finding one's own path and not comparing oneself to others.
有一天放着播客播到一个节目传来阵阵笑声,笑的我拿笔的手都被震颤了,我正在为了展览焦头烂额的时候听到这样这富有韵律的笑声,不禁在想,他天天在节目上这么开心,他会不会焦虑,当然也会的吧,诶?我想听听脱口秀演员的焦虑~!嘿嘿,于是就有了这期串台,是跟《不开玩笑》的主播史炎,他的个人电台节目《都在酒里了》的一期串台
这个话题我们从各自的经历出发,分享了我们在工作中、生活中的各种焦虑时刻。我是艺术工作者,史炎是脱口秀俱乐部老板。我们的焦虑很多时候与我们的创作或者是创业、精力、时间、播客更新有关。
本期虽然聊焦虑,但我们更多的希望是接纳焦虑、与它和解。焦虑是我们为了生存在进化当中保留下来的基因特质,就像痛觉一样,它其实是一种保护机制,是的,请这样看待焦虑,它不是个坏东西。
【About】
聊天的人:雨尘swanheart(小红书:万雨尘SWan,微博:@万雨尘)
史炎 -- 【不开玩笑】【都在酒里了】主播
封面:匿名艺术家
文案:雨尘&噗噗猫
后期剪辑制作:噗噗猫
小助手:Msswanheart (添加微信并备注听友群)
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shownotes,
00:15 立 flag与写日记
06:07 我的笑声被吐槽,也曾经使我焦虑过
12:31 不敢断更的播客,成为我的焦虑点之一
17:34 艺术创作者、脱口秀演员都逃脱不掉的对成功的恐惧与焦虑
22:00 聊聊我的创业焦虑
30:55 刷朋友圈也带来焦虑?不把他们当假想敌
41:21 流量统治、播客生态、单一的评价体系诱发的焦虑
47:18 相信热爱可抵御焦虑