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Work expenses. Company or employee responsibility?

2024/12/11
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丁恒
何杨
史蒂夫
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何杨:员工为工作承担的费用包括软件订阅、办公用品、客户招待、差旅费、培训、以及情感劳动等。这些费用有的属于直接财务支出,有的则属于隐性成本。 史蒂夫:加拿大法律规定雇主必须报销员工为工作支付的合理费用,这需要满足四个条件:费用是员工和公司事先约定的;员工已垫付费用;费用与工作相关;费用合理。加拿大员工普遍认为公司应该承担工作相关的费用,而不是员工自己承担。 丁恒:年轻一代越来越将工作视为时间和技能与公平报酬之间的交易性交换,不愿意承担与工作相关的成本。这反映了他们对个人财务的意识提高,以及对工作保障的担忧。 史蒂夫:员工为工作买单是一个存在争议的问题,因为涉及的范围很广,从办公用品到职业发展培训等都有争议。对于软件订阅费,公司应该承担;对于办公用品,如果员工需要更高级的用品,则应自费;客户招待费用是否应该由公司承担存在争议,这取决于公司文化和行业规范,以及员工职业发展的压力。 何杨:软件订阅费应该由公司承担,不应该让员工自己买单。对于办公用品,如果是一些基本的办公用品,公司应该提供;如果员工需要一些比较高级的办公用品,那可以自己买。客户招待费用应该由公司承担,因为这是为了公司业务发展。 丁恒:以前,中国员工对承担额外工作费用更为宽容,这与当时的经济背景和工作保障有关。现在,由于工作保障降低,年轻一代员工对承担额外工作费用更为谨慎。

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Key Insights

What is the trend of employees covering their own work-related expenses called in Chinese?

It is called 倒贴,上班 (dǎo tiē, shàng bān), which translates to 'paying for your job.'

What types of expenses are employees expected to cover in the modern workplace?

Employees often cover expenses such as software subscriptions, office supplies, client entertainment, travel costs, training courses, and even professional attire.

Why is the issue of employees covering work-related expenses becoming a hot topic?

It is a hot topic because it reflects a shift in how younger generations view work as a transactional exchange of time and skills for fair compensation, making them less willing to shoulder additional financial burdens.

What is the Canadian government's stance on reimbursing work-related expenses?

The Canadian government requires employers to reimburse employees for reasonable work-related expenses paid out of pocket by the employee, provided they meet specific criteria such as being related to work and reasonable in cost.

How much do Canadians typically spend per year to go to work, according to a 2022 report?

Canadians spend an average of $26 per day, which amounts to $6,760 per year, according to a 2022 report.

What are some examples of expenses that the hosts believe should be covered by the company?

The hosts agree that software subscriptions and client entertainment should be covered by the company, while there is a divide on office supplies and professional attire.

Why might younger employees in China be less tolerant of covering work-related expenses?

Younger employees are less tolerant because they prioritize fair compensation and are more aware of personal finances, making them less willing to bear financial strain from work-related expenditures.

What is the term for the emotional support employees provide to colleagues or superiors?

The term for this is 'emotional labor,' where employees manage difficult colleagues or superiors to maintain a positive work environment.

How does the younger generation's perception of work differ from previous generations in China?

The younger generation views work as a transactional exchange rather than a lifelong commitment, emphasizing personal benefits over collective benefits and job security.

What is the main challenge with setting a standard for client entertainment expenses?

The main challenge is determining how much money should be spent on each occasion, as it can vary widely depending on the situation and the client.

Chapters
The podcast discusses the increasing trend of employees covering their work-related expenses, sparking a debate on whether this is a cost of career advancement or if employers should cover these costs. The discussion covers various aspects, from software and training to emotional labor.
  • Employees are increasingly covering work-related expenses such as software, courses, and client-related costs.
  • The term "paying for your job" is becoming a hot topic, especially among younger generations.
  • There's a debate on the line between personal investment and fair compensation.

Shownotes Transcript

Ever feel like you're paying for your job? It's becoming increasingly common for employees to cover their own work-related expenses, including software, training courses, and even costs associated with clients. Is this the price of career advancement, or should employers be picking up the tab (20:23)? / Heart to Heart - please send your audio questions to [email protected]. On the show: Heyang, Steve Hatherly & Ding Heng