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Gareth Wyn Jones on The War on Farms: Labour's Cruel Inheritance Tax - MOB024

2024/11/22
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Gareth Wyn Jones认为农业正面临严峻挑战,沉重的遗产税负担、超市的支配地位以及政府政策都对农业造成了极大的压力,导致许多农场主难以维持生计,甚至出现心理健康问题。他呼吁政府关注农业困境,并采取措施保护英国农业,保障食品安全。 Peter McCormack对Gareth Wyn Jones的观点表示赞同,他认为目前的税收过高,并对政府的经济政策表示担忧。

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British farmers discuss the financial hardships and sacrifices they endure, including missing holidays and facing inheritance tax burdens.
  • Farmers work 365 days a week to produce affordable food.
  • Inheritance tax burdens are a significant concern for farming families.
  • Farmers miss holidays and personal time to reinvest in their farms.

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Our job is the food to feed people affordably, healthily ly with nutritional food. But we cannot keep going with these numbers. Ties in power here with no idea of what's needed to produced in that food food, you know three hundred and sixty five days, seven days a week.

People are out in the fields with this stock, you know, on these fuckers. Then come after me, my father, another family fans for inhabits, and tax our fucking y money we've worked at. We've fucking miss holidays.

We've miss Christmas. Me, my wife had another holiday for a week for nineteen years. Fuck in nineteen years because we've saved we've put money aside. That's how we lived hand out because everything was going back into the farm and everything was going back to produce affordable food for the masses. And it's not just because in here and try to take that money and take that land that's hours and telling you it's not gonna en 妈妈 will watch。 It's not to happen.

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Okay, but IT was .

fully booked out and Normally pick a di you .

can get into .

the one on street and I assume IT just armer.

yeah, been last night, may one a one day yeah i'm still a little bit coming down. You know of the boys, a drena yesterday, absolutely bloody naked this morning when I got, but just the the power, the passion, the feel in a yesterday with so many farmers traveling from all over the UK, and some flew in from abroad as well.

which is a bit crazy. Yeah, that was the first protest i've ever been to, has never been to a protest before. I don't think I have. I stumbled one in indian APP lus ones, but one one other wanted to go to. yeah.

And so I just walked in a, stood in the middle, the crowd, wash the speeches, but also just observed a lot, served a lot and just really good people. I love how I was thanking the police yeah, surely cleared up after themselves. Focus on the kids ah yeah, he was he was very interesting and be in a city boy, yeah yeah town.

I live in bedroom, but really someone who loves london. I think I just opened my eyes to apart the world that I have taken for granted, which is rural communities, which, by the way, carson, over my eyes, because we watched our first series of second series of concerts, farm, and this has all been over in my eyes. And suddenly, as i've come back to england, spend more time I ever realized.

like this is a big fucking in issue. It's then we've been down train for many, many years. You know, this is not something that's just pop up about that would work.

Farmers are the last people on god get to go protest. And i'll tell you why we've got animals attend. Two, we've got crops.

The grow. We need to feed people. And when we leave our farms, we leave them for a big reason.

And over the last, wow, twelve, no, the night ten ments, i've been part of three protests, something that I thought i'd never say. Three very powerful big protests. And we have bigger problems in wales, and you do in england at the moment. We've been under a labor government for twenty five years.

Don't forget twenty five years. communism.

Yeah, not just communism, but he takes mental health in our industries at all time. Low and generally something choke you slower and slower and slower instead of you just kill ling you off. Yeah, it's just like a slow .

joke but that's that's what social m nationalism is. Is uh that slow in power shing everybody? And is that famous quote? And I think he was wrongly attributed um which was uh I think was wrongly attributed to lend.

But the way to destroy a middle class is the is the milestone between tax and inflation. And I don't think it's just the middle I think is everyone yeah I think and what what I would say about yesterday tell me from room I don't think this is just about inheritance tax. It's almost like the straw that broke the camels back years after years of potion, terrible treatment.

Yeah, yeah. You know, government policies. We've got red tape of our supermarkets and we've got Price pushing of our supermarkets. We've got a massive TV problem in wales, a little bit Better in england because that allowed to. Take the numbers of the badgers down. If you use the word killed, many people go scream, you know, if we deep popular badgers IT helps with our wildlife, that helps with our t but then you got envy ads, which I trate vender's zones. Wales is just gone from the twenty six of .

october birthday was.

yeah yes, I was a shit. They for oils, let me tell you, because nobody can Carry any slowly onto their fields local we've just had on the driver novembers ever yeah and and october, it's just doesn't make sense. You cannot find through a government calendar.

Everything has to be found with the weather and with the situation. So these things are really frustrate in for us. Out of coursing whales, we ve got the so called sustainable farming scheme that's on the horizon.

Where hasn't come out yet? Where we could lose ten percent to trees, ten percent to habit. So think about this, fucking in in ario ten percent trees, ten percent habita fucking, twenty percent to, and hits in stocks. That is nearly half your family.

I told you last, I fuck and hate government. I just hate government because there's no good government. There's very occasionally, good politicians, very occasionally, but most of all, they are all shit. I don't think they care about anyone but themselves in power.

And so when they do policies that when then, so that when there the opposition or let down, they do policies to win those, but altering when they are impact, they don't give a funk. They don't care about anyone but themselves. That to me, they're all power hungry fees. I've just wanted .

set the table .

and all I know is we are a business oh, my business is aren't as chAllenging the farming government do two things they get in the way yeah and make things order and then they steal as much as I can through tax. And some people say tax isn't theft, I mean essentially is. But I agree, there's a social contracts.

You know i'm happy to pay tax. But yes, the volume attacks now are ridiculous. So that's my my kind of starting position. I think what we should do is let's deal with the inheritance tax issue head on yeah and then I I want to learn about farming. And by the way, I happily come to work .

you for for A. week.

right? So let's talk about this inheritance tax, explain what this new tax is and what's changed.

So agricultural land has been exempt from inhabitant tax. So you know, my father is eighty eight now, so he is always said, you know, of the cousins always say, you don't need to ready, put everything over. You know, you can put IT over.

So as a panel in the business of six people, I wind IT back a bit so we can tell you a little bit about my family. First, you ve got an idea what, you know, what that means to me on a personal platform. So my grandfather started the business, and the business is called old Jones and sons.

I worked with my grandfather on my life, and I never met them on. He had long died before I was born. So he died when my father was twenty one, one thousand hundred and fifty.

yeah. So there was five, five brothers. But one brother had been taken away by our great grandmother.

Okay, another long today. So there was four brothers left. So then four brothers then will couple of small farms in my father's, my grandfather's will. And on the day of funeral, my father is a fellow farmer in the group saying which when the which one of these farms these boys will be selling first. My father went home and told his brothers that he wants to sit around the table and meet, and that they did to sit around the table, table and the, and he said, that fucking swap today said this, what we're going to do, we're going to pull together and we're going to work at, and we are gone to build a business. And that's what they did, you know, buying farms then thousand and seventy two, about sixty two acres in conway, which was the most expensive land .

in whales at the time. And when you bought that land.

you bought IT with money, pay tax on every other that my fathers never had a passport. My fathers never bought a new car. My father's never been on holiday.

Never, never, it's never been to the role else. The only time you went abroad was when he went to the island. And of my mother's, with my mother on my.

does. And then four brothers then bought four sons into that company. So eight of us at one point are all working together.

But from that eight there was thirty two miles being fired at one stage from that FM. Yeah, that was a big, big old bunch. People that are get in fed from that form.

So the business grew quite successful. You know, good business. IT was very good in times.

You know, we had some good, good times. But instead of spending that money, we reinvested IT. That's what farmers do. They reinvested IT, so we built new shades. But what tractors, you know the guys, the guys that were built in the shares are all local ads. You know the people we buy, the tracks of all local people, companies, you know that many circuits within the economy.

So assume back then there wasn't so much competition with international food coming in.

Yeah definitely not as much. Yeah there was you know less imports. But as well we were getting a fair a Price for what we were producing.

People don't understand, you know, the cost of production of everything fertilized a few machinery, everything's bloody tripled could do pulled, but coming back to the inheritance ant stack. So you know, the eight of us worked together to build this. So i'm partner in the business like the ash of my cousins.

So at all equal partners. So you have the senior partners, which with four, you know my father and his other three brothers and then there was you know, to role shared within the business. Now my father left a the majority of his shared the land because he knew that he was safe for him to hand that down to me in the near future without any inheritance tax.

Now he's eighty five and eight. He is not sleeping in at night. He's found the accountant trying to look at ways where we can do this without being club red.

You you not club red on hab. You bet on CoOperation tax as well is where people don't see, you know, where all this is gonna fuck in end. And when these decades wake up and smell the fucking coffee, is IT you that's gonna be paying fit. You in in the city, london. You in in the city, chester and the purest people in our society won't be able to afford good nutritional meat, fresh bag and good british food.

What argue even already in .

a question where a lot of people come, I feel.

well, this is where is so stupid. So Rachel reves, uh, national insurance increase, they said they won't put attacks on, uh, working people. But everybody who runs the business knows attacks on a business is either attacks on working people or its inflation.

Only this morning they were talking I think IT was IT was saying with so little I was watching on the news and they said, uh, with regards to the budget, they said, uh, some of those costs are going to be passed on to employers and some of them onto customers. There will be less jobs available and there be less pay rises available, and Prices will go up. This is where I believe SHE, you know, you've got ta have a basic understand of economics to be the chance of the shaker. And I believe SHE SHE either doesn't have a basic understanding omics, or SHE doesn't give a shit.

Well, she's pretty thick. Yes, let's be honest about if let's talk about the .

sums that he says is SHE pretty .

small t because she's getting away with stuff that look at what live side. okay. Now first example, kiss da is standing in the end of few conference in february preelection.

I'm going to protect every single family farm. You deserve protection. We need to be watching ough there.

These chasers come in them with the first budget and hit is with the most ludicrous percent in hedon tucks. Okay, but this is where they're trying way, way out of IT. They've say it's going affect about twenty percent, twenty percent of the farms.

Okay, keep talking about over three million, right? Over three million. So i've got .

the numbers because misleading customers are .

far mown by two people. Pass on to a child. Hok grandchild is three million, but a far more by two people. Anyone who is not a direct to send two point six five minutes.

So one thing i'm fully aware of, because of my friends, I mention all that that yeah, they have farm hands yeah. And so once he passed away, they might wanted to take on the farm. And so if they've passed onto them to do IT, they would have been subject, they would had a lower threshold.

Yeah far mode by one person child of granted one point five million and a far by one person and anyone is not directed one point three to five million. Do you know what? Percenters farms owned by, uh, uh two two people, by the way, that two people must be a human and wife, right?

I so 我不是。

but do you know about these ones? Do you know .

how me a single but .

there was somebody came up on stage.

Yeah yele family. You know single parents, you know five or six simple. There's a lot of different in you, I think you know but it's going back to that common economics and common basics, what he said so he said IT would only affect twenty percent of you know the the so called highest product of fans.

Now let's break that down. We're been looking at numbers and if you be looking at a visit, looks like now it's closer to seventy percent, not twenty percent. Now I am a mathematician.

I'm not rocket science, but I fuckyou know that I have a difference between twenty percent and seventy percent of family fans. That's just the first caterina that we've hit there. Just just they seventy percent of farms in the UK get in hit with that inheritance tax.

Another thing that they didn't work out, average farm, I think, is about two hundred and forty acres in the U. K. Average one thousand, twelve thousand and eight without F M house, without F M buildings, without U A machinery. You know, couple of gains in habits and stacks fucked in. These people are gonna for every fucking in farmer business, in the united condom in a fucking one term, one term.

Let me tell you one other thing that nobody is mentioned, which I think is a big issue novye mentioning inflation. Now we know for a fact when the money isn't, guess yeah, as in the government increases the appoints money, everything else becomes scared if you can't save in that. I mean, when I was a kid, I remember my dad to save in the bank of the buildings society, six emps and interest.

Now only do you get pathetic interest. Now, like one percent, your money is being inflated away. Yeah so IT doesn't actually make sense to keep money in the bank.

As I said, you also yeah bitcoin yeah actually really because it's up this morning. But but so so what happens is assets go up in value plan property bacco in gold. This land, if the government continues to increase their debt, they will. This land is gna go up further and further, further, and the threshold will be hit quicker.

And that scary, that scary. And not just that bit a bit, but we're losing because with a growing population on a small island to kit were losing a lot on to solar panel farms at the moment. No, so a lot of building going on, but we need new houses, not against that. We need development, we need to keep reinvesting. But every time we're taking out on the way, you know, we are losing our ability to be secure in food production security.

Exactly what's .

the government doing about IT? Let's get another five hundred million and eight billion of these farmers out on the nh. For a day.

Twenty five hours is, yes, I read IT. So is five hundred and sixty million or hundred million? Think the rain this.

And Rachel reves came out. This is how thick these people to came out. The other things, this money is need for the n. You pull on the heart strings. I looked at up IT will fund the nhs for twenty five hours.

super king in IT. And if they would have thought about what they were doing, and they would reinvest into the farming communities and start to indicate the next generation about local, seasonal, healthy food, they could save that N H billions, you know, invest in in the next generation, building a bt of britain on our bEllies. And he starts with the farmers, and that's what they should have.

They should have been investing five hundred million in the agricultural sector to be growing more food, more seasonal, more healthy food to feed the nation and then the people, you know, indian, the cities would be able to afford. They will be healthier physically, mentally, emotionally. We are what we eat.

The N. H. S. Is cost as a fortune now because we ve got obesity.

We've got diabetes. We've got a lot of the lion and health problems, mental health issues. Mental health is a big, big thing. I am fucking and here is what these people are in half with poison. It's bucking rubbish is killing up.

That's the problem that government isn't seeing and we will never be recognized or you know showcase or appreciated until there's no fucking food on themselves. I hate to say that, I hate to say this, but frugal tages are just that on the corner. And it's a horrible thing to say.

I never wanna see anybody in society not being able to afford food and not be able to get food. But it's all been driven by government, all been driven by. And this is not just the U.

K. problem. You look globally. You look globally, the farmers in the netherlands, poland, spain, france, I think they are all .

just what you, I mean, i've ve seen, I will get to there. And I told you about my friend texas slim out in the us. Run in b beef initiative.

When I was out there. I'm pretty sure as a presentation I saw of him, he showed me this diagram with the showed all the food comes from five companies. Yes, and it's all manufacturing processes IT.

I do want to come back to that. Just keep on this. Just you understand.

So they said the tax would be parable installments over ten years. Yeah just say IT was a half million. Yeah, half a million. Yeah, you be fifty thousand pound a year.

What chAllenge? Let let's say, what chAllenge will that bring to the farm? Would a farm of that kind of size be able to generate that extra income? Or do you see they probably have to sell off land? How do you see this working mix?

No, I think you know, anybody that's farming would really struggle at this moment in time to pay that back. I read in the telegraph. So this guy was turning over one hundred and forty six thousand. His take home is profit was fourteen thousand. Okay.

that's on food.

IT was farmer farming. So farming not sure what is. I think he was a lot of five hundred and forty six thousand and over on fourteen thousand was is that that to live for teen thousand? great. There is a lot of farms out there and outside of this, not being like, you know, feeling sorry for ourselves as all of farms out there where the ribes go up to work so they can Carry on farming. They put in money into the business so they can Carry on giving fucking people affordable food doesn't make any sense.

This is why, Clark, since farmers is really good because you saw the difficulty he had in making money. Office sheep uh of the office um across you know they went through the numbers each time is like I I keep thinking, hold on, how can you .

ford TV no okay let's .

say what did .

they executed but you to fix IT .

yeah.

as a business man, I wouldn't be in that predicament. Yeah but you could see what a day you needed to buy a machine you needed to do this, you know, but collections being really, really clever, you know, he's moved from producing that bali into a lag. You know, he's out in body products, got farm shop there.

Now a lot of people travel anywhere for this A, B juice, you know, honey. Just is a clever or individual. Is an no, you cannot pour the rest of the agricultural industry by looking at the and i'm sorry, what is done is absolutely you cannot take that away.

What is done is brought people like you, you know on the inner city into the farms. That is fantastic, fantastic. What is that you know is educated people is showing the ups and downs, the weather, the hardships, the planning matters, the councils for government, you know, he's bringing everything into IT. So people get an understanding of what we do every day, but you cannot really look at that as a um as your average fun.

Yeah okay so so so he's provided goodmen ds into the the difficulty of the economics of farming, and he's shown that you can diversify. But he obvious ly has a massive platform so he opens a shop ever wants to go to class. Actually the message this is going on the other pharma shops.

Yeah that so this is good, good months in us. Yeah, started, started to go to them. I used to go them years ago. I was vegan for a couple years.

I used to go get fresh.

I didn't. He went for years, how feel ah the first year so I given up work. The first year was great because I cooked every single meal fresh yeah and he was great. And then I went back to work inside to have microbe meals, meat replacement junk, and feel terrible and went.

so does that mean .

most arms in ways to the far .

we do our emissive tours, believe IT or not, we get medicine. We get people from all over the world, and we bring them onto the farm so we can add value to what we've got. Got three children, you know, once, but keen to come home now and he's opened on the farm.

Just gives me a little bit more time, you know, my cursing, you know, partners as well. So we work together to do things. So when you have to look for alternative income on the farm, and, you know, do I want to be walking in the americans every night and every monday morning, is that something I enjoy? Yes, IT is.

I enjoy IT, but is not what every farm can do. You know, some farms are not in the position to put a farm shop. Some farms are in the position to sell their meet directly.

So a lot of these farms and businesses are held under a lot of pressure by supermarkets, by governments, you know. And they know IT could be next month or next year that they go in there. Or do you .

know any farms we're losing? I had.

A few i've got big platform. A lot of people are on youtube, facebook, tiktok, and you know to witter they they follow me, so I get a lot of information, which sometimes I listen to. So the wife attalia once at at the night we were on what in a film, pom goes this guy row, thrown a rope over brunch and himself about half an out on the phone with and IT was just fucking outbreaking onesta IT just comes back to me. Now.

didn't we just have another guy that was report on?

I've been talking to JoNathan and over the last three weeks with dad killed himself as well. But thank god I found this guy help, spoke to him and he went. And IT was financial for him.

There was a marital problem as well. His wife had left them over some bits, and bob fact was clearly talking to that night, and I wasn't sure if he had. But you full me on the sunday and he went to see one of the farming chattels chopped amount financially, just to covered him over for a bit.

So that's just one example. The other example is JoNathan on's dad, who took his own life three weeks ago. Prebudget was the night before the budget and then he's been speaking to some quite a lot about IT.

So I been on the phone a few times and you know it's openly spoken about IT, this one that walked. Instead, he had been found, this, that hanging, you know, it's got to be one of her, these things for anybody to find. But what a lot of people don't understand, that lads gotta get up in that next morning and going to that shared, feed them cows and work on that farm for the rest is fucking life.

He's got to walk into that shared and she's dad day hanging. Just think about IT. You know, people are walk into these houses or find him the, you know, you has been their wife passed on or you know, taking, you can sell how you can fok off, but that your business does everything.

There is all in memories are they? And you Carry in that you're caring that on your shoulders every single day, you know, trying then to drive on good a man, you know, people within this industry, tough fox, tough focus. And there's a lot way you can kill this up as a farmer, because we ve got all the implements, literally, you know, guns, poisons, ropes, you know, it's scary.

And because you see death life every day, some of them, you know, come to a point, 那个, i said, and it's scary because the mental health at this moment, and i'll tell you, i've been in this job a long time, it's never been slow. I am worried. I'm worried. And then these focus down here come in with this invitation tax fucking Billy big bulls promising everything in that bloody fucking conference, and then comes out with this. And then there's still defendin IT.

You know, a compulsive life.

I I just don't believe in the other anymore, you know. Well.

as I got the voted in three elections, i've refused to over decline. I think they're all liars um but I think he's been a particular this is why did you last night my naive review on how elections should work. We get these manifestos promise, promise, promise and then they win and then we get bulbul IT.

They just lie. They just lie, lie to punish everyone here. And you stop with these for four years, five years.

Yeah, and it's wrong. I fundamentally believe now an election should be a budget. I don't care someone to say us too. I care. Here's your budget.

Here's your text. Yeah then you look.

you can changes the incentives because when people put out their budgets, they're gotta compete with the other parties. And you look and go look, look at this is what labor's doing. This is what conservatives doing, this what live down and i'm going to vote for those yeah, you know, if you fail your budget here.

well, i'd been thinking, going to politics. Okay, and this would be my idea. So get on the phone.

I got elon mask. Look, i'm a fucking poor farmer in wales. Can you? Db, me a few million quid.

And I go, why do you want a few million? Quite well, i'm gonna into politics and i'm going to to tell everybody, everybody that votes for me. It's gonna get a thousand fucking dollars if they put their eggs on that box. Wonder if I .

can get .

into parliament.

Yes, that people would vote you because you understand your real. But the thing is, with all, with all of this, is that we now need a shift. I think, I mean, they scared of you a mask.

You look all the socialists, you look at the rest, is politics going. You look at that, James. So brian, all that most of the politicians previously, I think that even sidek calm, maybe they've all been slagged or muscovite scared of him.

Because if he points his attention at the U. K, which he has done a little yeah if he attention at the U. K, and he Sunny start back in the party and is a fluence power.

You I think we need the long musk in the world as well. The people like a mavacure different yeah there's like I don't agree with them, don't get me on, but we need a mix. I think what we ve lost in politics of real people. Now if if student .

debate as a career politicians you .

fit on the nail, the professional politicians, not one of them, have the job, not want them being in business. Now if I was going to be the prime minister that, okay for arg, say i'd be going right. Let me find the best farmer in the U.

K. Get that block to me, or that woman to me tomorrow. That's the woman that's gonna rent. Agriculture, of course. And and you can see what truth doing now in america, you know, okay, we don't have to agree with everything he does, but what he is doing is bringing some real shape shifter. And there is .

there head of agricultural role the time so you've got .

Better or and then you've got, yeah so in whales, we've got climate and ruled affairs. But climate.

can you see who labor's head of rural fairs, I want to find out Stephen read, oh, is Stephen read right? You look at Stephen read career background, by the way. ChatGPT always the best place to certainly is yeah, is the best yeah.

That's why I I put this tweet out and I said, I want to chapped ebel said, has anyone in on the labor front bench got any experience running a business? And IT came out, would know. And IT listed all the people who said their jobs, lawyers, trade union on and charity workers look at, give the charity work as a pass. Trade union is, we know that yeah, job is a griffis great. I understand .

the background .

of protecting workers, yes, but now is broad employment rights, which which are detrimental to one in the business. And then lawyers and lawyers, we can cut, you will go. Steve is british labor politician for his replace significant policies. Before read had a background in local government. He served as a leader in line with council, will work in first initiative, including housing and community development, work in local government, helped build a review, some folks on prove in public service is tackling social quantity, distance to political career, involved in very charitable and advocate organizations, reflecting his so basis. Never produced anything .

he's got fucked to do. Yeah nothing nothing about IT. He has .

produced anything. He hasn't gone a, made a thing and sold into the market. He has gone and influence policies and local and national level. He .

is. I. Agriculture is aboard prospective OK from you know the applies to the lowlands. Different farming systems, you know different equal baLance know there's different subsidies. And subsidies were there and the beginning after the second wild ball, so we could keep producing food affordably.

That's why the ships these came, then europe came along and they went more into the environmentally based schemes, which we've been in for twenty five years in wales. Never give you an example now, wales supposed to be the most natured, depleted place in europe. Or we ve been under fucker in twenty five years of environmental rules from welsh government.

And now the blame in the farmers will be in losses in habitat and losses in the nature IT IT makes no sense that these people that are in this powerful job have got no background in what is talking about, no background. So you phone up a tense to go and to a primary school class with you. You couldn't do IT with you.

And that's what IT seems to me. You know, there are concerns their lawyers, but they know fuck all about farming. You know, they know fuck all about businesses, and they know fuck all about the countryside. They are absolute biotic fools that want to take the cream of our note, which is going to go shower bad soon for these people.

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can just sell some stuff sniping socialist idiot. yes. And I think he was disrespectful.

And unfortunately, I think I think one of the programs created because i've seen both sides the arguments on twitter yeah there are those who support the farmers yeah and then there's all the other people are like, oh, they are just rich farmers or they are just trying avoid inheritance tax, blab a blah and they've been yeah the other people's wealth is is there's to take as they want. Yes, but by the way, I think inheritance tax itself is a crawl tax. We've bought everything. We've bought this table here. Yes, being, but I bought, I pay tax on the table, this table yeah, if I, if I die tomorrow, my son inherited table, my daughter inherits, but they have to pay inheritance tax yes and all everything I talked and .

you've paid for them things yeah, and paid tax on IT one way, twice, three times.

That's my point to these people. Not that just the farmers. I mean, the farmers need protecting because they are unique. Yeah, but nobody should pay inheritance. thanks.

What is the head in tax in the U. K.

Do you know it's forty percent over? I think it's forty percent over three hundred and thirty five grand cut in IT. What is inheritance times here? Right here? We go in here.

And sex, U. K. And okay, standard threshold is hundred twenty five thousand. If the state is valued below this, no inherent and sexy too. yes.

However, if this state exists, fresh hole is charged forty percent of the value of the. Okay, so I am over that thresh old now. My kids will lose forty percent of that.

And how many people in the U. K. Are over that thresh? I think. But one of the interesting .

things I was thinking yesterday, well, because people I saw that tree I told you about, guy said, yeah, they shouldn't get something. They didn't. Actually, my kids earned this.

Yes, let me tell you how my kids earned this. I can tell you two ways. Firstly, the last seven years i've worked to abroad, they burned IT by not seeing their dad.

Yeah, that has been away. Yeah, not only that, my son had to step up on certain things. And coit, when I was working and doing my podcast, he was making my daughter dinner.

Yeah, they ve n IT, yes, but even, and they deserve IT. And i'm going back to my father, his brothers, and as we've worked for that land, we've pay tax for that, you know, and we've been driven to do without other things so we could buy that land and then they can take that money away.

He got in london, the average house Prices is well above three hundred twenty five thousand in many errors having. And this is the best thing. Well, like we bought house two years ago, a beauty house we love is the last houses.

By, yeah, hopefully by the time I, I, I die, the mortgage paid off. I would love my kids to keep that house. Yes, but they may be hard because I going to pay forty percent in here tive of a long money in IT.

Is this redistribute this? Like this guy said, i'm in, send you last night. He said, uh, they shouldn't because they don't earn IT and I I I mean a stoler of another person but I said, so you are take up people who didn't earn IT ah to give IT .

to other people who didn't yeah people should pay their way. People should pay their way, you know, and I much round to be in a situation where agriculture was getting a fair Price, what we produce then what we do with the subsidy system. Can you explain to me how that works?

And i'm sure is complicated, different types of farms. But what I don't understand is you are you might be a uh a dairy farmer produced milk. You might be uh a tile, an animal 放 吗? 还要 有 life。 Some farmer produce cow, sheep. You might be yeah whatever you might be yeah so .

every farms different yeah okay. So um the payment before was on the area you have get to the area as in so let's say you've got a thousand lakers, so you paid on that thousand acres on .

what type .

of you too far they went more to these different environmentally based things where a habitat schemes. So let's say you got a so they'll pay you not to grade x amount of sheep on that for a certain count of time. So it's all about, you know, different ways that they want to control the way you find, and that's what they give us a payment.

But now we've got a Brown new S, F, S, the sustainable farming scheme, and whales. Now a lot of people might not see this, but because whales have been under labor for twenty five years, I think wales would be the getting eggs for england. And this is what they're do, and they see what they've done to whales.

England will follow quite shortly if they would get another term in. Or if they get to the end of this term, they might even, you know, bring in by then. So I will payment to save this year.

So for next year, then this F S, as he is bringing in our eyes, here are uncle, who's the? He were uncle Davis is the rural, the climate and rural of first minister. So he's gonna bring that out on monday.

Now we are a meting within last sunday. Three others. Quite nice guide, to be honest with you had a good chat with IT, gave some really, really powerful messages, really powful messages are hopefully is gone home to to to do out on them. So he will be giving his White paper the blueprint, not everything. I'll be there because he hasn't had this financial minister give him the budget for the agriculture check the year.

So he's gonna go on a on a bit when i'd say to say this is what IT is, but I have got the money for IT yeah and IT is just like, you know, some of these farms I try to run a business. Some boy's fans want to to invest. They wanna put money into IT, but they can we can do IT because it's so scary with what the problems we have.

Give another example for what's happened to wales. So we got, and these ads pushed on IT by earlier. So this is night vulnerable zones.

All the whales is now. So from the twenty six of october, we can catty slowly. Now i've got farming friends.

Now what does that mean?

You so slowly is shit, but is wet shit. okay. So it's like really yes, like you but but it's it's in liquid forms. So yeah I can see why they had a few areas which were and these ads which were laying you know lower or cases so .

they were close .

to rivers and and they could see A. Across whales are they said, why? Yes, because they don't want people Carrying slowly answer fields. So IT runs into water.

Yeah, but but shortly someone's come back said, there's no water here. Why I can't use that. They put all the wails in IT. But what's happened for the rest of history when we've used slowly.

so slow dies a new, quite a new thing, not not something, you know. So we still do its traditional. So we biology and we have the farhad menu. F Y M.

So it's little shit with sty, which we live on the yard for about nine attends and then we Carry on to the field after we have cut this old age. Can you still do that red in that? Yeah, but a lot of these farms, bigger farms, now have you see these big tank?

So they fill back with, what a pop, you know? So it's like A A watch. And then they have these big tankers, slowly, tankers, they suck IT out when they have sometimes umbilically calls the Carrier, and then they just Carry the shit all over the fields.

Well, they used to, now they can. But now we've got a problem because if you think about IT, they can Carry IT. So they're gotto store IT. Now these firms gotto put into to these fucking stupid grants, now maybe eighty to one hundred hundred and fifty thousand, to put slowly either logos or slowly tanks on their farms to store more slowly, because the 咖 咖啡 叶 over the winter months。 So again, another extra cost into hour, already struggling industry.

Okay, let's go back to the actual how the economics of the food. Why isn't there a free market? Why isn't IT you as a farmer decides to produce, you know, have sheep and cows. The next farmer produces corn, and the next one says, i'm going to produce rape and and then they just said, who is the buyers, by the way? Is is IT like a career gues would buy.

Who is the buyers? So, so fucking complicated, honest. So you've got layers to, you got layers, but you look at what happened in the states to all small hug farms out in the states.

In couple of states, these big corporations came in and bought a few of the big processing units. Then they begin to produce a lot more book, and then they undercut only family fans. So what happens to their family fans? They go our business.

They don't keep work anymore. They can keep, can't compare, not with people like that, not when they introduce their at, say, fight books. And they want ten books for IT. But these are producing so much numbers of IT, they how can do just big, big corporations with small margins. And here .

you've got to think.

once they've taken and little people out of they what they got them they've got that market, they owe that market .

is what amazon ed to books to exactly.

yeah. So this is what's happening. So there's two our small industries we are controlled by, the big a gomeron, the supermarkets, you know the hours the um you have to get this I H guy on your broadcast, he's fucking in brilliant. Honestly, he is absolutely and amazon ve and he is super, super clever with a couple of pines. Last night I put a little video and he understands the the way that they run IT and he was selling me last night about how much pa oil they put in, in how much other royals they put in into cheeses and ice creams. And if you listen.

let me talk you about this. So the most I told you last night kind of actually forgot to the place. Last night i've started kind of seed doors from my die as well. I am basically you trying to get to away from yeah since since i've moved back up been trying to get to single ingredient foods with little to no additives to do IT.

So I get my um I get my beef, bacon, eggs and butter all direct either from the farm, all the um or the the purchase lingers and basford and and is pretty done good. There is a Better one up in what this name is. What's the name that .

he gave me?

Shout out. But that's a fun. It's quite expensive. You play a lot for a ribbed, but is good, is really good.

And then I the only time i'll go to the supermarket is if I set into the gym at five in the evening, the butchers closed and I go, yeah and I always get the organic one. Yes, how much? But i'm trying to avoid supermarkets, but I don't want.

I'm trying to void, see doors. Now, i'm trying to get simples. I can. Because i've started to realize, I, holy shit, you get into this city, city, town, city lifestyle town.

If you get up, you get a starbucks, yes, which is your shady coffee. And then you get a sandwich way you don't aware made you look at the ingredients, all crap. yeah.

And i've started to try and go home on a second. This food is not good for you yeah full of junk to make IT last yeah whatever a cheap products they can use yeah. And I think we need to get people back to the best projects. It's six, but is expensive for some people.

That's no intending to disagree. It's expensive. If you if you look at somebody ready meals, if you look at take away, go buy a take me .

very fine forty quah .

inflation, you go to a firm shop and buy a good review stay. So this is how I do IT okay. Um so we send our lambs to be killed and then you we've got eight limbs in the freeze and already and when I go in there, I go to the park to and I said this fAllen quiz with the meat I like great but then I come home with lumps and you know of best high quality beef you can have.

I buy an off heart is like that, two people, two pounds. If feed five others, five others two pounds. What does that takes? Like you slow cooked in so you get guinness, can't inness yes .

OK like some .

onions, get some cables, just put IT all in and you cook IT this is bit you cook IT for at least twelve to sixteen hours OK only pull IT out IT just falls off, you know, you you have to cut the the veins out, you know? But I just love IT and then when I go to the, when I get my lads, I come back with lam starts now that is my favorite. So I get that slice I put back into my pen and I just seconds, oh my god, is old.

Gasoline is the best you can have, have same and liver. So these are cheap of cuts. So you know, when people say food is expensive, go to the butcher, ask a few questions, buy some cheaper joints.

Coke come slow is another great example about how you keep that. okay? So he's like A A rip of b is short.

P, yeah. So this now you cook IT slow. You ask my wife.

So you cook that again .

from twelve to sixteen hours an hour ago, right? The bottom, slow cook. I don't want anything where they accept a Better, you know, big novel.

But but, but how big they expand, I love but the thing is like I would want to come to someone like you said, I just want to buy half a cow and feel like my freezer yeah so it's just full. Can we get to that one? Have you guys .

to fucking these? Again.

red tape? Me coming to, what does the government places talks? Me coming to you going, I want to buy half a cow. I want to meet at the cow. Want to give a pat, yeah, half of IT when is done? So the other half of somebody else check IT out, give me, give me the cuts I want to, what stops that happening?

So we do that with a few of our lamps here. When you got four thousand lambs, the logistics would be like, you know, kind of a nightmare. I think that is a really good call.

As in for the future, I been thinking about IT because we've got a lot of internet connections now. Now i've got a lot of followers. So imagine I say, right, i'm taking the city on monday.

You want little, will you do you want little windy big lamp? Put a deposit there and let's say you put half the deposit, the lamin goes in, it's killed its box. And then you know course i'd to have some kind of freezer or some kind of cold store there on firm for people to pick IT up or have some kind of delivery system. You know there's a lot of ways we can do IT, but i've got friends already that are doing box schemes on small as scale. And I just .

think one day that will be the future that .

let's let's, let's talk about her. He's okay. So yeah, since i've been a little boy, my father would buy the turkeys and I would buy the food that would be a little bit about king for Christmas.

So then the same with my children. So they may get rules and regulations that you're not allowed to do this, you're not allowed to clean them, you're not allowed to kill them, you know, you've got ta do this. So I now have fifteen turkey for Christmas.

So when I ask people to come and pick turkey, they come and they give a donation to my son. They don't pay for the charity. We just give a donation and then they can have a turkey for the donation. okay. And that you know the only way I could find of them making sure something get for Christmas, I it's just booking mad is that is just .

not like institution when you get prostitutes are they are your pay in them as a donation to hang out with you. Everything else is a consensual agreement. But that but this is what this happens. People have to find rules to around government policies.

That's what's happened, is taking the power away from the people to produce the food. So, you know, to go forward. And what we have for years and years and years, we'd have local seasonal farming systems that would people differently.

So for me, you know, my father speaks about IT a lot. After the war, a lot of people would have been going hungry. A lot of people came to help on the firms you know with reading, with um you know picking potatoes and they would have a couple of bags s of potatoes to go home with them.

That family then would have been fired over the winter for coming up to help the farmer. You know, IT IT was a circle of, okay, there was no money exchanged, but you gave me your work ethic, and I gave you potato or half A M, and nobody went ungry, and everybody was getting fed, right? And I just think society, there was a lot less wasteful. One third of the food I think we producing this country goes to on film. One third, give that a google .

on your GPT. But you hold on, hold on the second, that's fucking ducks. One third of the why? Well, it's .

supermarket. And then we've got fucking food banks all over the country.

You know the third, here we go. Food .

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Throws away around nine point five million times of food, with single year, a point four million people in U. K. Are in food poverty. This is insane.

Hold on with where's? Look at this now, what is essentially we thrown a away a ton of food. Yeah, for every person that is in the same billions of pounds, a little more. What is ways by product food ways. This refers to the solid and liquid reforged bioproducts test created through the manufacture of production process, agricultural pressures they .

include to you milk yeah right.

expire products to surpass the date leftovers and back. I mean, I mean, that's just not and .

they don't say, but in this well fucked and shock IT, I don't say that in and though I got the family and I could be really careful with what I say on IT because the guys is that a contract for the big supermarket? So let's say, had the feel full of .

college flowers.

you feel flowers OK. Now these college flowers were ready to go. So the person from the supermarket came to check the college. He didn't think they were good enough for what they wanted.

So he thought, right, i'll be said, no, put a flail in there, put a machine in there, smash all up and plug back into the ground. What a fucking in telling this. Why don't ask me questions? I can you know, give you fucking, you know, I just I don't know why I cannot give you that answer.

That's what street in, that's was the street in. And i'm here in quite a lot of that. That's not just something that's one off. So why do you think it's happening?

Can you say do you know you say no.

if I knew, I would say I don't know. I know is that.

that they pay.

So they are in the contract. So these companies are in the contract. okay. So you know if i'm supermarket and you've got, let's say, two hundred dakers, i'll say, right, get the plan in there, put two indicators of potatoes and put two hundred redactors of leagues, whatever.

Yeah, so you'll know you know you'll have a certain product and then you'll have a certain amount of money for the end of the day. But they control that. And this happening now in the beef sector.

It's happening now in the beef sector. So of these farms now, having systems where the supermarket buys in the cow, brings me to your farm and pay you back in breakfast for that cow till IT comes with wait, then IT goes. Officers, laughter. But they control everything to they control. You know, why they why .

do they want to control that much Better margins? Are the supermarket is a big problem.

I don't just supermarkets like governments. They're very greedy. I don't share the cake. I don't think they're going away very soon.

You know that a big part of our economy now, but they they control to nine, no, no, sorry, two thousand and fifteen. I made the program called farmer on the food chain. yes.

And we talk about sustainability. We talk about where our food comes from, and you know the carbon fo print. So I want you to follow a lam from my fan sues law house and into the city market.

But they didn't wanna do that. So I got to follow a fucking in potato. Fox, but how interesting was that? potato? I don't know.

Yeah, this is what I tell. So OK to this farm, see the potato being lifted and then comes into this big factory where it's washed and fucking published. Believe OK like politically, they just can't believe they were put in polish in the post massive big industrial machine.

So then it's pointing a plastic bag loaded with the robot into these like big cages onto this Lorry driver. Then taking was over a hundred miles to a place called VS mouth. Or just on the other side, the bristol from wales and broke.

Yeah, over on today. We followed the over IT then went into the biggest fucking where was I ever seen in my life? IT was unbelievable.

I'm talking about football pictures. And IT was something out of the book. The book IT was bonkers. So these guys had like gbs on them, and they had like computers on these things.

So they are these like pig shopping charlies going around picking up, let's say, ten bags of potatoes, tenders and eggs. And they were going, and then they were load in the lorries, then in these cages to go to the that post to the supermarket. Yeah, fuck and unreal.

What I was watching IT was like something that people was like, wow. So loaded the potatoes back into the off IT went another hundred miles back into wales. That potato did the two hundred and ten mile round up and landed five fucking in miles from where he started from bet cabin .

fucking I so the carbon footprint stuff um the one thing that nags at me with this and I I would think a the reason is uh is like it's stupid to to monitor farmers they come for, is because um how much food is produced internationally and brought here and how much is made here and send international, which is essentially the same thing yeah how much british beef percent abroad and how much say, australian beef brought here .

and I sent to do those. Can I give you an example here? So we're self sufficient in lam, okay, but we export one third and we import one third.

Okay.

that must you look a big confusion .

because you would see why would be why would be why would we export one third and import one third is IT different qualities.

And so using and glam was probably can buy that cheap er in the supermarket. okay? They have because it's a continental difference.

So this playing will be our autumn kay, yeah. So there was something that we use so many, many years. The french, italians, the project keys now they love, well slammed during Christmas time OK smaller. And when they do the little best roast and things we come to.

you got a room ready for me. Come on.

we've got old cow shed.

Get my french well, lees.

he's always one with french well, is in the just, you know what, only when he comes on to your yard. He got french ales by way.

Time is .

usually about five o'clock OK.

I I mean, I usually buy .

six yeah so like, yes, yeah. When a little bit Better, my body clock even down here i'm getting to behalf five.

I come on, I must be fucking freezing.

Well, my wife thinks i'm mental, but it's not. I got a o'clock.

Get back. But I want to talk a little bit more about the food, the important export of food, how much quality control is there over the food that's imported and how much is there is. This.

yeah, yeah, look, we cannot expect kicking other families across the world.

This is we get in.

I think you you look at some of the ingredient, okay, this is what really pisses me off. okay. So if you look at some of the ingredients that coming into these big supermarkets, we'll put british chicken on IT and then source in taiwan.

You thinking, what must I got? You just got to start looking at the labeling, at labeling. And then you've got supermarkets with oak red farm, a tree top ninety, gale farms.

These are all fucked in fake farms. He's not real fans. These are names that they pulled out hats. So you was, you know, you you walking lively, i'm going to have yet chilly wood farm.

It's really nice thinking, you know, take a mission and it's a name that you can pick IT out of a bag, you know of the top heads. There's not such a place. So again, misleading the customer into you know buying things.

And the majority of our salads and bags now is coming from spain, coming from millimeter. We've see what's happened just out there. Yeah there's gonna a be major, major or yeah that was gone with people.

It's gonna shit themselves because it's no toilet role. They're na be shit and themselves because they no food so they don't need the toilet role and just, you know it's going to be a world circle and they were before. So how do we address that food accute ity.

We have to start to take the power back. We look at what's happened in ukraine. We look at what happens to a lot of all the country. So if I go out to ukraine to start farming, I will not have to worry about any pesticides, insect the size.

or fucker.

just my. Yeah, yeah, that could be a problem. But I mean, it's a farmer. Yeah so I can spray anything I give fuck. I'm just been the fields brain all in set sides, you know and they got different rules. I've got different rules. And then they can produce that you grain at a cheaper and then imported in this country and keep the grain know we we have to look up what we do in because they say to save the planet, but they don't give a fuck what playing there save in the planet .

over year is their valid concern around inside.

Yes, definitely, definitely. And I think the less we use, the Better.

That's my son's. What did? What did farmers do? Pretreated ical era.

there was less. Know there was less crops. They d yeah. And there was less crops. You know, if you've got something like black grass that can actually devastate FM, so they need similies round up fact, so they need that suggest you know to kill everything.

So there is there's reasons for IT and there is as well, I think, over uses of IT for some parts of our industry, it's getting the baLance. And I think the majority families know ninety five percent of them will always be thinking of not just the profit, but they will think of the environment. They will think of, you know, the land.

What is the wrong with the incentivize and passes is IT rain run off in the stream is IT. Um what he does to us.

I think, is everything OK. no. And it's not gonna good for the insect world either. Now have a little vegetable I grow, but a lot my own vegetables, and just the taste on them, the organic micros, a little bit less than what I would do if I was going fuck zoo.

But you know, I enjoy my evening's weed and swear a lot when i'm about their weing. Some nights, you know, I been, you know away for a week or something. They not time to get there, and I ve got a bloody weed, everything.

But how did the all organic people do IT?

Then they do IT on the bigger scale. So they'll have machines that they can go into these fields to do IT. There's a lot of work to growth things, but you know, where is society that they want to cheap food.

But cheap food comes at cost. Cheap food comes at a cost. The environment. Cheap food comes at cost sometimes to the animals shape food comes about cost to the farmers as well.

So you know, we need a fair Price for what we're producing and to do that in a time where there is a lot, a lot of money around because we remember, you know, the nineties and the bend of the two thousand, everybody was like, i'm just organic. And was the biogas ic. The money was a little bit tighter. Gani people .

went from .

organic producing milk, organic you know, farms. They just IT wasn't viable for them. The market wasn't there. So you got to have the market for the product.

your production.

how do you get a IT is to get more local hopes. So farming hopes as in bringing more farmers, you know, having more look up at killing their own, growing at own, you know, investing in, let's say you have an area with a six and farms quite similar, you know, if you could have some kind of rotational working group, there were Tommy gross cattles, yeah. And will grow some potatoes.

So they they could have that, but they have the machines to do all this so they could all, you know, kind of share that. Hope so they could all grow that. Now, if you could bring that power back what I was, you know, fifty, eighty years ago, that food to be seasonal, local, healthy and a lot more nutritious than something that's been shipped after way across the world. Stop then on a super mth kitch elf for bloody two weeks before you even think of getting IT.

Okay, I still don't understand what the power is at the moment. You know, just say, I get the moment on grown carrots, brocoli of color flow. Whatever is I, I would grow. Who are my who? The options i've got to sell to can I sell direct or supermarket?

If you go, I will tell you I .

want to .

because of colleagues. I want china because of leaks .

so one hundred days is are potato and they are probably squeeze them hard on the Price yeah okay um and if I um a small farm .

who is my son to a little examples, so this this guy on land that we've got just begun is on. So we took a big world garden to begin with and then he's taken chicken half land of cloud day and goes a lot microbaLance and things. And the Young lady helping him is, so he went out south a few restaurants to begin with OK.

Now he's doing a box game, so you all the box of him every week. But what he says in the box, I love you said, you never know what you're gonna get but and this is what i'm saying, okay, we know that everybody can do that, but you know he's is that former that was three hundred fifty years ago that was doing that. So you get everything that is in that box.

We could be leaks this week, potatoes, everything that you need, okay, you can order, do something special if you wanted that. But you know, usually he will be bringing up box with whatever in IT. And then you make the decision on .

what you want to cook.

And I just love IT. Yeah, he can make a good income on that. He can make a finding, can make a living. He's he the profit out of that. So there's no middle man .

in the big farmer. What I can see if you push pushes back to, I am not making enough money here. Can anybody .

put back on, you want, say something, the new contracts, but a contract, that cheese contracts, the verge contracts.

because what do you think I think this been told? No.

because they can just say I can go someone else.

Because because the supermarkets are in competition with each other, keep the Prices down. And so where can the great prize from the supplier? Is there any push to create? I I guess the farmers union.

we not go, but no.

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That's a really good question. And so I I vote remain and I can believe me and I vote remain now copy all time on, but i'm a believer in democracy. And if something is passed by the majority, we have to go with that. Yeah, we have to work good.

So for zen wales, what happened was that came in and we could, I mean, we could if they would have closed the door on alarm to europe, that would have finish lot of farmers OK, but they opened a free trade deal for alarm. So thank god. O K, that was fine.

But then you know that um I would, agricultural sector in whales is devil from westminster, so the devolve sec that is run by welsh government. So we get we used to get money from europe. We don't get money directly from europe. Now IT comes from subsidy.

Now IT .

comes from westminster. So west will give farmers in wales a budget. There's a budget, you know, that's that's the budget for the N H S, for schools, for everything and that's for whales. Then they'll have to be a section of that. That's for the farmer.

How does the subsidies compared to what you from europe? Yeah, IT used to get three billion a year. Yeah, farmers no longer receive payments from the u. Common agricultural policy, which previously provided a nearly three billion a year in support. Can you find out what what they get now?

Yeah yeah so um at this moment in time, we are very similar to what we were. The payments haven't changed that much. They will.

but they want to find something else to take. You ve got IT.

That's why i'm saying about this sustainable farming scheme. This is the crushes for a lot of family farms and wales. So it's not just inheritance and stacks, okay, it's the sustainable file scheme. And as well, this this is scary as well, is on these sides. And tb, so they .

told me about TV, what's going on here.

So we went down with the last year. You .

can average .

one month. So all, all the both lines on our holding attested. So they have two jobs, avid bull vine injection onto the neck, then that comes back.

He looks at in the lumps. If the lumps are bigger then he has to take like A A machine to measure them of their over a certain size. Then they call them A S like react a so we have to put them then to one site. So we have two years on the first here, so they retest them then um so what was negative but what most positive? I just because I isolated the two together, I didn't want to to take the risk so I said .

just kilo K K.

So then we did like a blood test so that another and IT can be a little bit more hash. So we lost about five cows on that blood test, which was stressful. I mean.

stressed. Honestly.

I wasn't sleep in and I IT was just just playing with my mind because we'd never been under IT. Our area is being clean and for its to go quickly. And I believe if the problem is so we've got sections of our farm OK.

So we've got a london conway where we have about fifty cows. We have london angle, see where we about a hundred cows. We've got one area where we take a cows, big cows, with gabs over the summer, which is intermitted land from the mountain, the good lands, what we call a three year to the international link.

So that's where the cows, and it's surrounded by wood land. And this is where I did the program. mr. Bryan may, yeah, leave that one day. So surrounded by by wood land, and I believe in that wood land, there was a bug said that was infected, which came into our cows, which gave our cows then. T, B.

can we just kill the badgers?

Now it's, can we just say that we could do that OK? But i've got a bad solution, some nice person. I'm not all of these fucking to in tics that I wanted to show everything.

So let's think of this logically, scientifically. Ally, there is no overpopulation of badgers. Kay, too many them, right? So what do we need to do about this over population? We need to address IT.

So we don't tell everybody gonna call these budgets. But what we are going to do, we're going into these areas and we're going to look at the badger sets. We're going to track their pool if their pool is positive to C, B. We, we get some. We, so, yeah, okay, so we .

predit only .

menu. We get zero in jail. Shoot, yes, these to make budget hams. Yeah, i've never in a budget, but it's illegal to shoot them.

But we would depopulation that we would take their numbers down on what I would be doing. At the same time, I would be testing in the cows, but I would be as well, monsters, nature. I don't have her jokes on my fan now. I don't have ground nesting birds. I have very little bumble bees, and the reason be in is I have a new population of budget and nobody talks .

about why do they keep protecting the badgers of the?

Because these people, lunatics, because they are watching too much wind in the willows. They think, fantastic, mister fox and beautiful, you know, mr. Budget and doing anything, they are decimating a lot of our nature.

Foxes baLance a little bit Better because they still being control the budgets. Don't no predator, it's just deSimon our head jog and grass birds. And nobody listens.

None of the environmentally, none of the natalist. Nobody wants to control them, don't do anything, only babies and net fuck off. They kill, fucked in everything.

They're roofless. They're absolutely ruthless. And I don't want to go out and shoot them and kill them and destroy them. I want to address the baLance, bring that violence back. And it's always governments that fuck everything up, because this was a government policy to stop people from bad beating, which I was against. I hated the thing.

You know, why was that thing?

By the way? I know a bit. D I remember .

IT from my kid. yeah. And you to take states to them.

unbelievably ly tough. My wife, one one night with one of my nicest cars GTI fucking rip the front of that wants to kill every bad. There was an cking fan, but I couldn't because I was not allowed to. Yeah the but he was but SHE did IT with the canada of bloody six.

Emile and I are the frustrating rotate bureaucracy exists within farming that you would change.

that I would change. wow. I would look at the red tractors farm.

Sewards .

you wrong little? You've usually got some inner sue kind of things. I can be anything.

I remember a guy thing to me a couple of weeks ago. Track the game. I said, how was IT focus? I was like, okay, bye, sten, to this one. So he had, like, a little pool of water are sitting just not far from his milk tank, he said, as a failure. Then he didn't have a sign to say no smoking in some certain areas that was a failure.

These, like things that you think yourself, you focus, are coming onto your fans to tell you what to auditor here, you know, on everything you do on, just add the more stracted strain to them. feminine. There's another thing that's going to absolutely shock this country here.

And this is in between menu. You you'll be the first ex at the phone call this morning OK say who with? I can't say who with OK I can tell you the story.

So my wife was listening to the conversation so friend of my phone, me this morning to say, and so every shortage plan has slugged, do you know? Yeah, yeah. So it's the stuff that's taken out.

The solid really they they get IT in the water on the solid sludge, then is mainly Carried on the farmland and play. And okay, now RAM is a bit pic stock for the government with a few people. So he said, you can study a fooks a big as you can sort.

You don't shit out. We've got two plants now that are overflowing. We lodge. They are shitting themselves.

What to do with IT was yesterday.

In the long time. yeah. So it's building up is building up, but we don't, anna be put in nourse ves into that position.

But we're not just taking you know on producing food. We're taking a lot of other things as well. All the way leaves where all the utility companies come onto our land.

Let's take water. Everything flows to farmland. Private land. You know, marginal farm is going to be awkward on the twenty eight days. H electric lies going not coming on for twenty eight days, you know, magine. If farmers that just flex a bit of muscles and say.

wow, 提到 他的, you must know about the truck of protest in canada, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that kind of brought the country to its needs, yes. And sadly, because trudeau, a communist, brought in of executive powers. Terrace ws, to shut down, I went over to see them was IT crazy now I went over after with interview, people about the curt went and just here in the stories while while they were treated like criminals and all they were trying to say that with the one's transport in the food and protect us, yes, anyway, is there have been any thoughts of, just haven't like a farm and strike. I know IT be expensive for farmers to do well.

we're on strike as we speak.

I guess. So yeah.

for a day. Yeah, yeah, no, for a week. So we stopped. I won't be having any lam or any bef for a week now OK from sunday or sunday. Quite a few problems that have done that as well.

Just think IT was a at a statement and we knew going to be a lot of farmers down here. So there was not a lot of the livestocks is going to market. There was say he was being picked.

So that will have an impact on the supermarkets.

hopefully to Christmas. We don't want people to angry. We don't. The last thing we want when our job is the food to feed people, affordable, ably healthfully with nutritional food. But we cannot keep going with these numbers.

Ties in power here, with no idea of what's needed to producing that food. Food, you know, three hundred and sixty five days, seven days a week. People are out in the fields with this stock.

You know, I I don't a Christmas day, all, I get up early a Christmas day so I can feed everything. So I I could get into the house of my kids, so I could get into the house, so I could see my children open in presence. And these fuckers then come after me, my father, another family farms for inhabitants and tax.

That's our fucking in money we've worked at. We've a miss holidays. We're miss Christmas. Me, my wife had another holiday for a week for nineteen years.

Fucked in nineteen years because we've saved, we've put money aside, yeah, things about everything out. But before then, we've fuck and struggled. I used to train sheep dogs over the winter month to pay for our little fucking treats.

We'd have a couple of days here and there. That's how we lived. hands.

Mk, because everything was going back into the farm and everything was going back to produce affordable for food for the masses. And it's not just me, it's every booked in farmer in the U. K.

That's done that. And then these people come here and try to take that money and take that land. That's hours. I'm telling you it's not gonna en, and I will watch it's not gonna en.

You have that managed to false policy change before I member was IT during the fuel protests?

Yeah that you blocked ed the he was a good guy, good friend of mine. One of the guys that is on the campaign now was part of that. You know, they bought the country to a standstill and again, you know, he went into politics.

He conservative. Yeah, yeah. But he was never the same guy.

It's kind of strange when you sucked into that. So yeah, it's difficult band. I have a voice, her or you know sad.

So I I don't know is that the expert you know our farmers gona blocky ports. Our farmers gonna you know produce less food. We actually talking into future tages. Anyway, it's it's it's a no brain and that's something that I I don't have to explain you, but people are listening.

I'm not a i'm not for a bit of civil disruption. I think you've got to stop this government somehow. Are there any stations who have been consistently good on this? Because some be an opportunity is of them. This is my point of kimi SHE said a great thing should reverse IT great, but he wants vote SHE power. Anyone who's been considered .

good at you not going like this. And ten father is his name, and he's s been pretty on the side of family. Yeah, yeah, rupe's been good.

Actually he is a good goal. Yeah, he's been banging the drum. It's difficult because I think a lot of these have jumped done IT. Now if you understand what an opportunity yeah you know, for yesterday, yeah.

look up A.

No, we have .

another .

load way. Yeah got five, nine yes game. Unlike he said, i'm not there as this big lando that doesn't want to pay tax. I'm a support in the family famm to IT you know it's people like him. Good to ford this in the tax people on something like that be being so same as cracks and really wouldn't would be IT wouldn't be here there for people like that.

The cause some thing yesterday, so actually was kona, who message me yesterday, said cancer at a bad time on the bb, I think he slept up at an opportunity. I think I don't think you look people are say no clock and rich. I don't think carson was there for himself. No um always he had a bad back yeah um I think he was there for the farmers.

I think he's really started to and yeah rural life in life for farmers I thinking is the opportunity I think you should have stepped up and said um to I can afford that I mean, what he did say, which is the truth, he said it's not a problem of makes i'm going to put into trust. I survived seven years of my kids get IT yes, trust are there for rich people to avoid sentences. You trust aren't there for people who've made you're not going to put a half a million pound house into a trust to save yeah a little bit of hand sex and people are not upset by this.

But that's the truth is everybody should try pay the. I i'm going to a pay this yeah i'll happily to pay this. Yes, it's all these other people. Yes yeah they haven got amazon and yeah platform. And to stop using.

Yeah come and as well, you know he had said in previous interviews that IT bought from, you know you know not said that publicly, you know which is away from so as much as I love what everything is done, maybe he wasn't the best guy to be up there on stage. And that's not because I think what is done, agriculture, nobody can take that away. I had BBC rado two on the phone this morning for the lying for show that one o'clock. So they picked up on Clark. So the is a .

distraction, I think, because they they want to catch him out. This is the problem with the main story of media .

because he one of their top, he gave the, they don't like that. No.

no same reason they don't like you, your mask. They, anna, catch a mount trip enough, but they do. They want to catch amount tripper up that they go to trip him up.

Yeah, no, it's not like this where it's like, tell me, let me understand. yes. And that's why they are losing.

yeah. Well, I think theyve lost a lot the ability of the honest dia. Yeah, you know, I look at my socials everyday now, where with average about thousand followers on our facebook page every single day now, you know, people are looking at IT, but over two na million on our youtube channel, increasing.

People wanted know, people want to understand, people want to learn. And I think going forward. Media always have to spend, okay?

Media always had an opportunity and IT was always lefty for me. You know the BBC is always been a little bit a little IT. You know it's something like G V.

News coming in now as being I don't agree with everything they do, but there's been a bit of fresh air there. You know, i'm talking s of people are a quite left. So did you want SHE mews? I'm good.

Fuck you. Beginning to go. okay. So it's that's more baLance.

The market creates opportunities. Reform exist because conservatives failed to be a conservative party, have consent to I mean, I consider them basically socialist themselves as somewhere. I mean, there's very little difference between the a .

the conservative party just left them in that very close yeah they very close.

Think big uh, high debt, uh, high tax yeah surveilLance yeah uh, corporate sm ah, all the same ship from both you a bit more labor or destroy public is why form if you not to do the job of the conservative party we, you and that and I think gb news is exactly the same. Yes, you know, all the media control left in bullshit yeah. And people just want to have a different voice that represents people have got conservative opinions. I'm here for A, I think kind of you check this, I think gb news just reported, they have, they do Better .

fix on the day a night joe says reform could win wales like .

I was like.

what can some proms to be like?

What happened in the us? The problem. I still don't think the left realized why they lost the election in the U.

U. S. I mean, they were focused on personality, not policy.

And I think that's the same in the U. K. With age, they will focus on personality. Yeah, well, he on policy, yeah, and his policies are interesting yeah he is what everything of and breaks IT yeah he is addressing issues from rural communities, from the working class, the middle class. There's a wide range of people said i've fucking had your shit yes, with this labor conservation is all the sample shit and you know, he's resonated. Did you find that?

What give .

me the main changes you would make right now for farmers.

for farmers that fucking in inheritance and stacked to be out the book in door right away OK. You know, I would be investing into fans for food security. So looking at invasion, looking at new technology, finding ways to produce food in a way that people can afford, deck that this great regenerative people out there.

I will look at hurdy shopper sheppard on twitter. Gene banks is is fabulous OK. I don't think every FM could be that, but there's opportunities where we can produce food.

And much after nature, you know, the applying areas, they need to be grazed, they need to be you watched after so farmers that are producing good food, watching after nature, clean water stored in carbon. Nobody be talks about how much carbon that stored in classroom. Everybody, folk trees, trees, everything.

You know, you plant that glass outside trees, that ink on this request. And nick alm, for ten years? K, because i'm saplings, i'm gonna ll in for twenty. That glass will be sequencing carbon a lot faster than them. Trees that mountain behind when I live the cabin mountain range is stored in billions, millions tons of carbon.

And then White fluff y things that roma player in the summer, a nib vegetation which stand draws more carbon because once it's cut, throws in that cabin back into that soil. You know, you don't have to be clever to understand that. And then we eat them White, flat feelings because they're good food, it's good protein, and we use the wall of the backs of them.

I have jump is like this, so that's what it's about. You know, we have to start to address these problems again. If I was in charge, we'd be looking at and these ads, that would be one of the things I would be changing for england, whale scotland's.

Another thing I be looking at within the supermarkets, I would put aside in their straight away something that in charge, somebody that's gonna watching every single supermarket to say, right, what you pray in for that, what you pray in for milk, how much these contracts ago, you've got your mullions, your ours. You've got these big, big corporations, multinational portions. Adler is owned by a group of farmers, but we have to have a fair Price.

So we've got to keep them big processes. That big buyers in the right place yesterday got to make money. Yes, they've got got to make profit. But you can you have in year nine hundred million profit like just was around ved.

Well, he came out today. I think test goes was three hours billion yeah one of us I think says Price was a lot than I expected, maybe three and yeah and I think little was maybe nine hundred million. You got the numbers come, came up today, super worthy profits test.

Go was two point eight.

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yeah. I mean, they were between them, i'm sure. As I four to five billion, I mean, they can give a little bit back to the farmers, share .

the k exactly .

in all the dream.

Let's do IT. Let's go. Let's kill out. I'm put in .

killer for .

killing, if to. I don't. Yeah so we yeah, so I bought a half a cow, my brother, so that's going off to be slaughter in january.

Ve got a book at IT.

just half a cow cost about this is gonna cost me, I would say about six hundred quit and that .

probably gives enough meat for half a year.

Wow, that was good. Yeah, I day all .

day had.

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, jesus, I was good food.

By the way, we're we're going up to wales work on gas farm for few days.

Now we going to come to do, yes, we come to do IT. Yeah will probably be the new year. yeah. When is a good time .

to come when you're only worker .

balls off his laming time?

Okay, will be April. So beginning April. Oh, or and match whatever you want.

We will do IT. We will come in the diary.

We are coming. We to get get on that much into a cow, pull in A A cows funy.

Farming very grounding is very grounding because you working with animals, you know, you working with the land, you're working with seasons, you know it's grounding. It's it's something I feel fortunate our families been doing for three hundred and seventy five years. But every morning .

when I seventy five years.

yeah yeah but we've got the one of the first ever x facilities in the world to six thousand years ago. Man was on our land making assets. I show you where where they were made and you know we call the feel of which means the stone field so much through there.

And the frightening bit for me is when these people can take that away. You know, sad reality of IT. I could be the last generation there. And that's break.

That's what stood out with the speeches. Every form came outside. Our family has been farming here for hundred seventy five years, hundred and ten years, hundred and twenty years. This really is a industry that that is passed on from yeah parents to children, parents to .

children and you got ta remember we never really on IT okay you think yeah you got a nice not be ever so that family is like sell in the family gold. You never do IT yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah what is this goal was not his family goal, but you see what i'm going with that. So it's working, working.

I said, you've got, you know, it's part of everything. So all you are is a still IT. So my father has taught me in oceans of very, very Young age. We never on this land.

But one thing I do ask you, if you handed over to the next generation in a Better place than you had that, you know, which gives you the same of you doing a good job, and you've left something behind for the next generation, what do they want to do? Take a twenty percent slice out of that, either their farms and then fans are just on the edge of being profitable. So then firms, then i've either got a choice of paying out twenty years or sell into any acres.

And I think a lot of them will just say for kid, i'll sell that please. So will just go. I'll sell the whole lot four, four weeks ago.

Four weeks ago, I went to a farm sale, OK and IT was like going to a week I was going through that door, seeing everything being sold at ranking. I was there. The guy that was selling is a farming friend of mine. He was losing thirty five thousand pounds months, all to do with tbs of milking Operation. Fantastic fan, you know, prevent cats, everything was running smooth, come sold out, does not want anymore.

But this is also the mad thing, right? All these farms are worth maybe five, six million. And these people are making forty thousand and fifty hundred that whatever the number they're making, they could sell their farm and just be a million there.

Yeah, live. Yeah, just buy a nice house, live an easy life. And they choose not to.

No, because it's not. It's a way of life. It's not something. And that's what, you know these any city book in lunatics, one in the .

time ran for you. Just, just there on the camera. Come on on.

This is one Better. They come on, think we're record. And how can come back anyway? Just, just come to the mike. Just say what you are saying that you need to come writing.

Farming is part of our cultural head age. Um you know it's the most primitive thing that we ever started doing was farming. So being a farmer, it's just you don't know any other way of existing.

It's part of it's part of your identity. So when you rip them off away from people you could living in a nice house, we won't be happy. Money doesn't bring you happiness is that way of life. And rip are taken out of that family environment, farming environment.

Listen to that ratio reads yeah .

I don't think they listen, to be honest .

my in so like you like if you were dressing raco reves and kids drama following the tensions and the fucking, what would you actually say them?

I say listen to us with the industry on our is was struggling and we've thinking of the next generation. And you're not just tax in the family. You're taxing every single person in this country because it's gonna go onto the food one way of the other.

So food inflation, food shortages. So if you do have an opportunity to to address this position, please do IT. Because I am telling you, from the bottom of my heart, I know this will be the final nail in the agricultural coffin.

We've lost one var already. please. Let's not lose any other lives.

Let this help. I mean.

everybody I think everybody helps by you know and everybody has helped is be by getting behind the farmers, everybody on social media, okay, there's a few. We know where they are, the same old you know left wing roles that will never change that he thought that would yeah like to send this to siberia like they did in the time when he sent them all two siberia and stabbed the nation. We've got ta be careful.

We've gotten, be careful. Do not ever buy the hand that fees you. And we should be building a Better of britain on our belly. And IT starts with the farmers.

Well, great, great to meet you and ran so great to me. You too, and hang out you last night. We will definitely to the farm. So we'll come. Landing season will put .

that in march, April here.

Yeah, we come out, we come in, have have a free. Um do you wanna try .

some some of things? You can even do a Better show and we'll do some squirter burgers. We have about a square burgers. Fuck their good man.

We got square. Ver, we ve got square. I got you have been for a couple years. Repeat .

this A. Little a little shoe every Grace girtle i'll take you. I've got a new a egg and it's an egg and world next week so new here I i've got a yeah petie a few but.

Listen, honestly, a cause you friends, now, a great on me last night, we will definitely come. We have the support will help anyway. You can even need anything from me.

You reach out. And yeah, I wish you all the best. I am really cognizant of what's going on with farms in the farming community and we just .

we had to help and support you. So me been a pleasure of me in here and thanks for everything you've that you've given is another platform and an opportunity support our problems over and hopefully people will listen and we need people like you. You know, we need voices and will be swear in a in a rabid I feel a lot bad and maybe I need .

you like, thank.