Brian Schimpf and his co-founders started Anduril to address the need for higher quantities of lower-cost defense systems driven by intelligent software. They recognized that traditional defense contractors excelled at producing expensive, high-end systems but were not equipped to handle the emerging demand for scalable, software-driven solutions. They aimed to bring modern software approaches to the defense space, combining hardware and software to solve urgent defense problems efficiently.
Anduril's Lattice software is a defense-specific platform designed to track and understand everything in the environment by processing vast amounts of sensor data. It helps detect and classify targets like tanks, ships, and airplanes, making sense of complex battlefield information. Lattice serves as the foundation for integrating various hardware platforms, enabling scalable and autonomous defense solutions.
Anduril adopts a crawl, walk, run strategy for autonomy in defense systems, ensuring predictability and trust for operators. They focus on increasing human agency and control, presenting the right information to aid decision-making. Systems are designed to be reliable and predictable, with autonomy applied to tasks like mission execution in underwater submarines, where human intervention is limited due to communication constraints.
Scaling a defense tech company like Anduril involves navigating episodic growth due to the nature of defense contracts, which can jump from small pilots to large-scale deployments. The company must balance preparedness for rapid scaling without over-investing early. Additionally, defense contracts require comprehensive capabilities, including hardware, software, support, training, and logistics, making it a complex and resource-intensive process.
AI is central to Anduril's defense solutions, enabling the processing of vast amounts of sensor data to detect and classify targets in real-time. It powers autonomous systems like drones and underwater submarines, allowing them to operate efficiently and intelligently. Anduril focuses on applying state-of-the-art AI techniques to defense problems rather than conducting AI research, ensuring rapid deployment of effective solutions.
Anduril addresses counter-drone systems by deploying hardware like radars and cameras and rapidly iterating on algorithms to detect and classify drone threats. They integrate various countermeasures, such as jamming, shooting down drones, or using missiles, into a combined package. This approach allows them to adapt quickly to evolving drone technologies, which can be developed and deployed in months rather than years.
Brian Schimpf believes the future of defense technology lies in autonomous systems, low-cost satellite constellations, and hypersonic technologies. The ability to deploy large numbers of satellites cheaply and operate them at scale will fundamentally change defense strategies. Hypersonic missiles and vehicles, developed at lower costs and faster paces, will also shift how the U.S. engages in conflicts, enabling long-range precision strikes and deterrence.
The resurgence of tech companies engaging with the DoD is driven by the realization that state-on-state conflict is a real threat, as seen in the invasion of Ukraine. Additionally, the rapid modernization of China's military capabilities has highlighted the need for advanced technology to maintain U.S. defense superiority. The DoD has also become more open to working with new companies, recognizing the urgency to innovate and adapt to emerging threats.
The U.S. is underinvested in the ability to monitor and respond to threats across the vast Pacific region, which requires extensive sensing and operational capabilities. Additionally, there is a need to provide allied forces with tailored defense capabilities to deter invasions and protect critical infrastructure like shipping lanes and fiber optic cables. These investments are crucial for maintaining a credible deterrent and ensuring regional stability.
Anduril ensures ethical use of its defense technologies by maintaining clear accountability for the employment of weapon systems, with humans making critical decisions. They focus on increasing human agency and control, ensuring systems are predictable and trustworthy. Anduril is transparent about its mission to provide advanced defense solutions responsibly, emphasizing the importance of ethical considerations in developing and deploying its technologies.
Today on No Priors, we discuss defense technology, AI, drones, and autonomous vehicles (think giant submarine drones!) with Brian Schimpf, the co-founder and CEO of Anduril, a next-generation defense technology company. From his early days of coding at age 12 to working on self-driving cars, and finally founding Anduril, Brian's incredible journey led him to create innovative solutions for pressing defense problems.
This episode covers the impact of AI, intelligent software, and other technologies to defense. We discuss the challenges of deploying and selling technology in the government spaceBrian shared his perspective on building general-purpose defense technology, the importance of a software-first approach, and how Anduril is working to solve urgent defense problems with speed and efficiency.
As we wrapped up our conversation, we touched on the recent shift in the low cost of space launch, which has changed the way the US thinks about defense. We examined the proliferation of satellites, drones, and hypersonic missiles, and how these technologies can be applied, scaled, and built in a way that can fundamentally shift America's approach to defense. Don't miss this fascinating episode with Brian Schimpf as we uncover the cutting edge of defense technology and its implications for the future.
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May 16, 2023: AI in Military Operations and How We Can Prevent It From Outsized Effects)
May 9, 2023: CNBC Disruptor 50 - Anduril Industries)
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Show Notes:
[0:00:01] - Exploring AI in Defense Tech
[0:05:15] - Lower Cost Defense With Intelligent Software
[0:15:10] - Building General Purpose Defense Technology
[0:20:41] - Autonomy in Defense Challenges
[0:25:05] - Machine Learning in Defense & Intelligence
[0:29:06] - Scaling a Defense Tech Company
[0:37:08] - The Future of Defense Technology
[0:46:53] - Allied Forces and Washington Engagement
[0:51:47] - Discussion on Leadership Popularity