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Unlocking the Power of Generative AI in Dow Jones with Ingrid Verschuren

2024/11/19
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Ingrid Verschuren: 道琼斯Factiva平台在使用生成式AI处理来自其他出版商的内容时,始终坚持公平补偿的原则。我们与出版商保持透明的沟通,确保他们获得公平的报酬。在使用生成式AI之前,我们有义务重新与所有出版商协商,获取额外的许可权。这一做法源于道琼斯自身作为出版商对内容的保护意识,以及我们希望对所有出版商一视同仁的原则。虽然这带来了挑战,但也确保了我们现在通过生成式AI提供的摘要内容均获得充分授权。 Factiva平台的发展历程,从手动索引新闻文章到利用AI技术自动化处理,再到如今应用生成式AI进行摘要,体现了我们对技术创新的持续追求。我们始终坚持内容的可靠性和可追溯性,确保用户能够信任Factiva提供的信息。生成式AI的应用提升了搜索效率和信息处理速度,同时保证信息的透明度和可审核性。 我们与谷歌合作,采用Gemini模型,主要基于以下几个原因:首先,我们可以更好地控制数据输入和输出;其次,这有助于我们对出版商保持透明,因为我们可以追溯到每个文本片段的来源;最后,谷歌的Gemini模型具有多语言能力,这对于处理Factiva平台中32种语言的内容至关重要。 在应对生成式AI带来的挑战时,我们注重以下几个方面:首先,确保信息来源的可靠性,我们拥有专门的团队负责评估出版商的可靠性和信誉;其次,我们进行持续的测试,以最大限度地减少幻觉等问题;最后,我们强调人工审核的重要性,确保信息的准确性和可靠性。 我们认为,未来AI技术在风险管理和决策方面的重要发展方向在于整合结构化和非结构化数据,从而创建一个更智能的平台。同时,我们也强调人机协作的重要性,将机器擅长处理的任务交给机器,让人类专注于更深层次的分析和价值判断。 Factiva的成功在于整合结构化和非结构化数据,并坚持其核心原则:使用可信赖的信息、对合作伙伴保持透明以及公平补偿。 Bernard Leong: 作为访谈主持人,Bernard Leong主要负责引导话题,提出问题,并对Ingrid Verschuren的回答进行总结和补充。他关注Factiva平台在生成式AI时代面临的挑战和机遇,以及如何确保信息的可靠性和透明度。他与Ingrid Verschuren就Factiva平台的技术发展、与谷歌的合作、以及生成式AI在风险管理和决策中的应用等方面进行了深入探讨。

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Why did Dow Jones feel the need to renegotiate licensing agreements with publishers for generative AI use?

Dow Jones felt obligated to renegotiate licensing agreements because they license content from other publishers and wanted to ensure transparency and fair compensation. As a publisher themselves, they are protective of their content and wanted to extend the same principles to other publishers when using their content for generative AI.

What is the significance of Factiva's fully licensed content in generative AI summarization?

Factiva's fully licensed content ensures that all publishers have granted permission for their content to be used in generative AI summarization. This guarantees that the content is legally compliant, traceable, and citable, maintaining trust and transparency for users.

How has Factiva evolved from manual news indexing to leveraging generative AI?

Factiva started with manual news indexing, where articles were tagged with metadata. As the volume of news grew, they adopted natural language processing to automate the process. Today, they use generative AI for semantic search and summarization, making it easier for users to access and understand vast amounts of information quickly.

What challenges did Dow Jones face when integrating generative AI into Factiva?

One major challenge was ensuring that all content used in generative AI was fully licensed. Dow Jones had to renegotiate licensing agreements with publishers to secure additional rights for AI use, ensuring transparency and fair compensation for all parties involved.

How does Factiva ensure the reliability of its content in the age of generative AI?

Factiva ensures reliability by licensing content from trusted publishers and using a dedicated team to verify the credibility of sources. They also conduct extensive and ongoing testing of AI tools to minimize hallucinations and maintain the accuracy of the information provided.

What role does human judgment play in Factiva's use of generative AI?

Human judgment is crucial in deciding which sources are reliable, testing AI outputs, and determining what constitutes good results. Factiva emphasizes 'authentic intelligence,' where AI handles tasks efficiently, freeing humans to conduct deeper investigations and add value to clients.

Why did Dow Jones choose to partner with Google for its generative AI initiatives?

Dow Jones partnered with Google due to their existing relationship and use of Google Cloud solutions. Google's Gemini model offered multilingual capabilities and low latency, which were essential for handling Factiva's vast and diverse content in 32 languages.

What are the benefits of using a retrieval-augmented generation (RAG) model in Factiva?

The RAG model allows Dow Jones to control the input and output of information, ensuring transparency and traceability. It also enables them to remove content if a publisher withdraws permission, which would not be possible if the content were merged into a large language model.

How does Factiva's structured data processing enhance its generative AI capabilities?

Factiva's structured data processing, which includes fielded information, allows for easier slicing and dicing of data. This structure ensures compliance with regulations and enables users to exclude specific information when necessary, enhancing the platform's flexibility and reliability.

What does Ingrid Verschuren envision as the next big advancement in AI for risk management?

Ingrid envisions the next big advancement as the ability to combine structured and unstructured data seamlessly. By merging these data types and applying advanced search capabilities, Factiva aims to create a more intelligent platform for risk management and decision-making.

Shownotes Transcript

"So, we are very conscious of the fact that we license the content from other publications. And as I mentioned previously, we do that through licensing agreements. We are transparent with the publishers about what happens with their content. We ensure that they are being fairly compensated for the content that we use. But, as a result, when we started talking about how we wanted to use Gen AI, we actually felt that we had an obligation to go back to publishers and ask for additional licensing rights. Part of that, I think, is driven by the fact that Dow Jones is a publisher. We are a publisher ourselves. We are very protective of our content. We want to make sure that we understand what's happening with our content: Where is it going? Who is using it? And we want to be fairly compensated for it. So, if that's one of our core principles, then we also want to make sure that we treat all the other publishers exactly the same. One of the challenges has been that we had to go back to all publishers and ask for additional Gen AI licensing rights. The positive of that is that the content now available through Gen AI is actually fully licensed content. All publishers have given us permission to use their content for this specific use case." - Ingrid Vershuren Fresh out of the studio, Ingrid Verschuren, Executive Vice President of Data and AI and General Manager, EMEA, at Dow Jones, shares her journey from manually indexing news articles at Reuters to leading Factiva’s transition into the era of generative AI. She explains the mental models and frameworks behind how Dow Jones uses AI to empower businesses with reliable data and insights and discusses the recent partnership with Google’s Gemini model and explains how Dow Jones works with the other content publications, navigating the complexities of trust and business model innovation. Last but not least, Ingrid explains what great would look like for Factiva in the age of AI.

Audio Episode Highlights: [0:46] Quote of the Day #QOTD by Ingrid Verschuren [2:19] Introduction to Ingrid Verschuren and Factiva [4:29] Career Lessons from Ingrid [5:58] Overview of Factiva [8:30] The Evolution of Factiva and AI [10:41] Applications of Generative AI for Factiva [13:37] Challenges and Opportunities with Generative AI [15:27] Safeguarding Against Misinformation [19:25] Partnership with Google and Gemini Model [21:29] Transparency and Auditability [24:24] Staying Agile with Generative AI [26:32] The Future of AI in Business Intelligence [27:48] The Role of Human Judgment in AI [28:59] What Great Looks Like for Factiva in the Age of Generative AI [29:43] Closing

You can find Ingrid Verschuren, Executive Vice President, Data and AI and General Manager, EMEA at Dow Jones: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ingrid-verschuren-61a7684/

Podcast Information: Bernard Leong hosts and produces the show. Proper credits for the intro and end music: "Energetic Sports Drive" and the episode is mixed & edited in both video and audio format by G. Thomas Craig

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