S4 Ep8: Okay, for real. Who's replacing Tim Cook?
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Hey, what's up, fellas and lady fellas IT is john john just doing a quick intro for you because after i'm done talking to you, you're going to hear a Normal episode of psychobabble that was recorded Normally uh, but here's the deal before that epo de, you're going to to hear us either reference that a camera is rolling or reference you guys watching. That was the goal. We set up a camera and I set IT up.

I mean, we we threw IT up, actually no plan. And just we just point a camera at where we Normally see for the pocket didn't make a sad or anything like that. Uh just to give you guys a video version, turns out all of that footage and I mean all of IT was at a focus.

So the video part is not happening maybe next week. So ah just audio again this week but hey, surprise or try and uh if and I left in a lot of the not even pay attention and show started to anywhere else, you're welcome for that. Okay, here's the episode BIOS soon.

Hey, welcome to recycle bin guys. I like, I like when I talk to the audience, I literally, I look at the task cam like the record .

because of them.

We're so used to like everything we do being so like over research. Now I just want you to throw this together. Everybody wants a video version. I don't want like we talked about having a triple camera said.

everyone wants a video version. We don't want .

do the work well like we had these ideas to do a video version of recycle bin. It's like, okay, we're going to have camera for me like cross you know one for you have one of the center that's on like a track yeah slowly going back and forth. Of course.

IT is not okay. Well, everyone, burn is in charge of recycle band. I had no saying he made this.

He thought this was good enough. So in the comments, it's a thanks. Burn, or a jesus crisis was a terrible idea. burn.

I think IT looks great. I mean, what do you like? what? What would you like? You want? You want to film .

a for I yeah actually.

thanks for everyone. I feel .

like i'm so much smaller. I don't believe what you see on the camera. I'm not this much smaller set up straight.

My got like, I have .

pear still too high.

I don't know you want .

swap stools by that time to h wow.

easy, easy. careful.

I like.

where are we really doing me right?

This is the best way to learn. I feel just as small.

Bro, oh, look how low your microphone is.

Now i'm small just over here.

I don't want to tell you your mike is even pointed down like i'm going to got to like slump now. Now we're matching .

and that IT maybe maybe he's microphone will solve this if it's the last thing, the right which direction he wanted to start recording. Now by the way, so sorry about on that.

This is great.

I have a great. Yeah, there are heaven. Okay, stole all the way up. H, all way.

you're still wasn't all the way up. Why not? I didn't know. We had them all the way. Oh yeah.

that's how you want to do. My feet are n touch in the ground anymore. I love, I love our ols.

I do too. Can we talk about our height? I feel like this going to be a, we are the same height. I mean, no, we are.

We aren't. We are. Legs are.

So was longer than the other person tour. So, oh yeah, I have the short little. What would you call what's politically correct tiny persons eggs?

This is a such a train reg. Oh my god. I, what do I expect you? This is what you want.

IT, that's true. What are we even talking about? We have discuss that.

You you guys welcome to have a question. What do you even know who the answers to day?

Yeah, I yeah believe you anyway.

with that is going to be a kite.

I guess you wanted, is you what administrative .

question? And I had to look at up well.

when was the correct time now were much later on to know .

I was a good move. Guys, recycle bin is a call in show. If you didn't know, you can leave us voice males at four zero, four, nine, one, nine, five, five, three, zero.

This is how we always remember the number is in the table.

Oh my godness. The study is back in order. Yeah, yeah. We are.

How, when money? This section, when did we upload? Almost two weeks ago? Tomorrow in a minute? Friday, one of the day, I don't know.

Yes, yeah, I went through over the course of a couple days and cleaned up the studio was a nice idea. Yeah, this was a disaster. Like, people really don't understand how there.

I think there still fake grass all over the floors. Yeah, jangle was climb ing on a roller turf that was like a twenty minutes ago. Yeah, yeah. Ah, so we're working on two new videos this month. Yeah.

let's talk about IT.

Let's talk about the problems of new F, P, T.

A quick, where in we are in a hell hole. It's a bit dramatic.

creative hell hole. What a bit dramatic.

Well, it's like all the videos that we've been doing lately matter and so IT doesn't feel right to throw an idea together but then you're like, okay, well, every video has been ramping up. So what's worthy of being the next idea? Yeah turns out that hard to discover.

yeah. I mean, we're so worried about having to constantly one up ourselves.

but we're not to talk about mac benchMarks.

No.

I know that the m for maxis, IT is the fastest ssr ever. I whatever does need benchMarks sounds .

we got two ideas and it's like a good ideas spiritual power one in part two um if may or may not be revolving around a particularly exciting point of a early iphone. Well.

yeah, we're just wait on um we had a request for comment and we're waiting hear back from mr. jobs.

Yeah, might be a minute. Ah we're going to wear spot. Now I like I like to use recycle bin as our sort of like we just talk to the people.

But this well.

like a lot of people, a lot of creators, they insert a lot of themselves into their videos. yes. But like you just told me like a couple days ago that like your online personal, you don't see yourself as a real person.

Oh yeah, burn not requested.

What request .

burn suggested that I tweet something?

yeah.

Ah and I was like, that is not something that I would tweet and then .

I had to look internally .

why yeah and I just I think i'd like IT this way i'm separated from right because real me is too vulnerable so he's not going out there yeah well.

that's the benefit of recycle. I feel like that we can like talk more candidly because we used to do a lot of housekeeping. N, F, P, T, remember that? Like we would take like a so mente.

Yeah, we would take like a minute or two in the middle between stories are at the end of something right the beginning. Oh yeah, we were just start talking like like if we had a shop to drop that was coming right in, right in the beginning, right? No wonder we didn't get any views.

But I thought I was the best though. But now I think it's good. I mean, like everybody in the creator space, always like after a certain point, you feel like untouched. Not that like we are like these god beings, but like there is like A A certain degree of separation, you know. I mean, I see what you mean like as we're putting out videos and especially not up putting as off. And it's like if people wanted engage with us, it's much more difficult yeah and everything after a certain like size, they start to feel like, are they are they even saying what they .

believe is .

is IT not a is there run by like A P.

R firm or something?

It's run by you. I'm i'm just voting what's crips a lot of people .

were talking about in one on the youtube comments, especially that genius were has been replaced for them.

Oh, but yeah there's .

like there's some there's a group of people that want call me yeah and this I I mean, I didn't know this going to happen, but this ended up be in a place to get that version yeah well, I mean.

that sounds weird, but I don't feel recycled and I think it's just gona be naturally entertaining because we're budget and we are to mixed stupe jokes yeah we are that but like we're not trying to like at least I am not trying to put on a show. Maybe that's a bad mentality to have yeah I feel like just as talking as a good show. Yeah.

this is the main channel. Like how disastrous or dev.

fuck a lot of stuff up. I think.

oh my god, have any? I K.

well, I want to play one just because I feel like I like housekeeping. Okay.

I feel like bull shooting. Sometimes people believe a voice ml like a week earlier. And so it's like not clear when we record IT this. This is the day after the election.

I forgot that happened.

Yeah, this is the day after the election. Like that's what time of the week we are.

Good lord, what is date is november six. November six. I'm not going to get when I going to get in to politics because that's not how what this is.

No, but I have never personally identified politically. Like that's not like if I think about myself, I am burn. I'm brian. No, i'm my husband, a father and I like to make stuff and play video games yeah i'm not like i'm a democrat yeah I like you know but anyway.

well .

you .

like all .

the .

wa, the mick pro unveil event. Whatever the hell happened at the very end of that and had a wondering in a vilification that they use about him. But john, for the entire review, international critical event and trend never shown up, but the way he introduce ced and access from event, and almost felt late like a test in a way of, I was wondering if this is somehow a hand turns, maybe him taking over for being CEO. What where there is something that on that work? Thank you.

Thank you. That's such an interesting voice, sml, because that we've been talking about that all the like internally and between the two of us, that's been like a constant piece of conversation. How weird IT is that apple had a nonevent what you want to call IT, a series .

of uploads.

video press releases. yeah. And tim was nowhere .

near IT not even reference. No.

were you I think you told me, I don't know if you heard this somewhere, if you should, just a vive you had, but that all of the the shots and everything in those video packages, mind us to john turny stuff was actually recorded foregone event. Was that just .

a vide I would like to attract that oh go head A I so that was a theory put forth by max tech for deme um and IT seemed very likely but anything fly was a when you're watching the events with that in the back, your head is the matter doesn't work because the the war was that mac broke prose the last video yeah uh, they were the people in the other clips were also sending back to john I see so I I don't think the math works there. It's interesting because john tennis, I think.

You see that get cut out.

Is that in? I don't know. I looked at the camera.

I wouldn't drink soa during the bag. John turn is is, in my opinion, the next E O. I think he's a the right age. I think he's very, very safe.

He's good in P R situations, is quick on his feet when he asked to answer questions, uh, and he he started to learn to be quark y and like, be fun. And I would agree couple shots, a couple reveals in those event video of things. We're very clever and cute.

I like the macbook pro one. He's like the speakers at the old ad or whatever.

The the only thing is john tennis is also the guy that tim uh, takes you to for the max section of every vent yeah he said that parts not at a place senor vice .

president of hardware engineering .

yeah every mac announcement is usually done by john tennis. And it's usually in an event where there are where there's like a thirty minute our lonely ent, where there's other stuff where we need to go back. So I can't tell if like they thought this is a true test for him or if just tim literally .

was not required. Well yeah he's the guy. He's the mac guy regardless of anything else.

In twenty twenty two march ish, they did a similar thing um where they released videos like this really not they weren't as produced IT was like they want transitions and stuff. But I remember craig being in them. I don't remember what team is in and even make IT was craig talking .

about ipad and stuff interest I member maybe like I mean if if you throw IT, if you would look like if you look at IT like that yeah john turned out to just the mac guy drawn out there. Let me talk about max. He would be talked about him anyway. Yeah but I wonder like a regardless of on camera presence, if what if he was more in charge of the rollout of those video packages, the lack of one big event and it's like, yeah because that and that was a weird choice I mean and everything leaked yeah like what was stopping them from just in fucking and final cut on an ipad? Throw in all that together into one thing like I would have been like a half hour I think or so I think .

what they wanted was more press time.

It's a weird way to .

do IT well that guanches at least three days of conversation set of just one. Yeah.

but you think they should like a weird year .

to do IT like. And they, uh, they did IT with a lot of influencers too.

They lead a lot of influences.

They had people, yeah, like john, turn to interview with brian tongue that I was OK.

well, got to be honest. I an, well, I okay, two things just happen to my brain. I was gonna say, I hope that they aren't just done. Make an events like.

no, yeah, no.

But then I realized if they are, well, no, I guess we'll have to make one .

every time we are planning .

out anywhere just.

uh, yeah I think it's john Turners .

is Turners that's good to be john turn into is whose turn is is yeah he's forty nine so that's like, man he looks good for forty that california living he looks great.

Um a lot of people because this sort of stems back to our tim cooks dock um where towards the end we kind of give the realization that leg sooner rather than later, tim will be headed out. But we're at the end of this now um and for some reason, people are very resistant to that. They don't believe that.

And so I think I think they're to be in in for a big surprise. I only expect him to be around for a couple more years. I think twenty seven is gonna his leave and he'll go on and be a philanthropist st or run for office or disappear into the sunset with his billions of dollars.

He's a very wealthy man. He is iron. And I think people are just resulted, doesn't see resilient, resistant to change in that regard. I mean, people, but like people don't realize that any stuff like that is happening for years behind the scenes already like a regardless of tim leaving now or later, they're working on IT now like for .

checked out. Like mentally lag doesn't care as much like ever since vision road didn't do well, he's kind of I did .

feel like he was more in the public eye.

I feel like is hard and .

I don't know. I mean, he has a pretty like the thing that we're missing. We don't have him on stage in front of people anymore like we're not getting the the the trip of persons personality.

It's like it's all edited. It's all he just read a teleprompter. He would be on stage anyway. But i'm just saying and like they can control exactly what comes out and it's probably just gonna the most medium stuff.

Speaking of controlling exactly what comes out, how impressive is IT that tim cook is like successfully a private person somehow you don't know who is dating yeah, I think we know where he lives but like, yeah, that's not hard like you never hear about his boyfriend or heart like I don't know he's married. I don't think he's married. I but you never hear about that.

I do not think that's pretty common like what people don't have to put all that out there.

I know, but like I feel like I usually found I don't know in times like where he must not be going on dates. Dates must be in the house all the time.

He's got corporate security, i'm sure. Like he's probably one of the most protected people in the country outside of like a .

president you like if he goes on a date that everyone must leave .

the restaurant, maybe I think I wouldn't be surprised like he he clearly cannot just be out and about regularly like he's too important, too recognizable. You know, I don't know. Let me see a tim cook in public. Let's see if any photos come up in public.

There's a, there's a picture of him getting groceries out of .

his is there really whole foods? Oh, daily male, shocking, spends his birthday shopping, but he's never far from his ipad. what? What has? What a headline? What a holy crap. And what a marketing genius. Well, this is two years ago, and I don't know if this sorry, three years ago um uh tim cook, targeted by possibly armed stalker who came to his home and is still in the area company alleges. Yes.

that's great to see at this house yeah.

now that's really weird. Like you .

telling me, your boyfriend doesn't come over. No one sees another car in the driveway.

I mean, you find a man. His driveway is probably longer and bigger than most people.

He doesn't live in a large place like he lives modest. I am the guy is like about tim cookhouse is really pretty.

But tim cookhouse.

you act like just by looking at upward.

you're gonna in trouble. No, I just mean like we are like doing the thing you know that we don't want to happen doing a it's nice house. It's a very modern yeah looks looks nice, probably very expensive, do you think?

H, I figured, well, you know how? Like batman doesn't pulled in the wain manners through the driveway. Like he he jumps through a waterfall. Yeah, a hidden entrance. Like, I wonder there's a hidden entrance for team's boyfriend.

Your so obsessed with tim's potential significant well.

because that can be the closest person to him. Like how do you have a relation if anyone that has a relationship and that is in the public guy immediately gets discovered? I do not believe tim cook or out at swagger is not taken.

I mean, he probably is. But but why .

don't you see them? Are they going through the waterfall, through the bag?

probably? Yeah, it's probably maybe he has dropped off via helicopter. Maybe who knows?

Can someone find out? No, no.

that's see.

look at I was just curious anyone like to that .

how IT starts? I'm not trying to stop most. I know. What is your friends like?

Well, yeah, john n turn this next year you call on IT. I mean, if not, who is IT? Lisa.

you know who? Lisa know who look up. Lisa, yeah, she's on.

lisa. What lisa is that? Lisa jah, if I look up apple. Lisa, it's onna be the in that .

there is a page of apple executives and you can see who the ship yeah that that that are, right. Police said Jackson, I think.

This is jack in VP of environment, policy and social initiatives. Yeah, I don't think that. I mean, I be surprised.

I I think .

I think is A C A. How old jeff though he looks older. I mean tims only sixty four like if it's not john turnus.

Js, maybe just too crag. I don't think craig wants to. I don't think craig wants to either. Yeah, he doesn't seem like the type.

He wants to go home, play a tar. He does not have time to wake up. Three.

I forgot that we were on camera. This is weird. No little bit. no. Uh.

I D Q, maybe not ready. No ready. Too goofy.

I mean, I yeah, a fill sheller.

yeah. Who who are the female options? Because if it's not john time, I I, I think a safe bet is guy.

always I put a pin in that request.

IT feels thing just as apple fellow.

Yeah, he's retired. He he done.

He's like, he's like a foi in this sky now.

So I don't know if these are listed. I would assume that these are listed on apple's website as like listed by importance, maybe so. Tim top of tim cook, next person to his right is Katherine atoms, the senior vice president and general council.

How old is .

SHE mean? You can just .

look at just SHE Younger. He look like OK that .

her age is not on here. He looks kind of like moral .

strip .

great then it's A Q crag. And but the next next lady is dear da dra sorry, I just two her uh, the senior vice president of retail maybe I mean, john is he's kind of the guy in a lot of ways. I mean.

I have tim cooks over. You are just call you don't have one hundred percent to my dad my why do not need to talk about I mean, we probably shouldn't .

talk about IT but yeah.

cut. I know there's me.

Uh, yeah, man, I don't know. I mean, apple, they need to promote from within, right? Like apple so close and like secretive, it's gonna one of these apple leadership people. It's not going to be some due of a sales floor.

You don't think they're .

to bring in a long that would man, that would be a fucking move with a bit ness Graces. Well.

nothing would make me an android user faster. I don't .

think what that would be. A move that would be crazy. I I, I don't like thinking about that. Um yeah, I don't think you could be jaws either. Okay, so it's join Turners.

We solved IT next. Yeah, when IT happens, you can say that you heard at first. Here you are all of our very diligent research that just happened in front of you. We like to be .

transparent. Like, dad, what do you want to complain about? I don't want to complain about yeah let's see is going on with your phone.

There's IT doesn't work, okay? But like that's not new. I feeling people hate when I IT doesn't IT nothing works.

Can we can I tell you about sense? Apple intelligence is out. Some of IT the AI summaries are as they're so funny, they're so bad for their mead. You mean it's like IT summers ized okay, this is what I assume was going to happen when they answered IT.

Yeah group chats especially useful because I miss you a lot of group chats like I won't see two hours later there has been a full conversation and some days i'll feel like grown all the way the top and get and caught up. Some days I wish I summaries those really good when I don't need summarize or when the tacks are just short enough by themselves, like there will be a tacks that I can easily read the preview of, but some mary will just fuck IT up. Yeah.

for no reason I have a really funny one from you, like from a few days ago, maybe a week ago, that I love the summaries. They make me laugh every time about about right? OK, about right? I don't know.

Uh, let me see here. I'm looking through my things. Oh, IT says jhn. I had two methods from you later in the night and I said, journ suggests moving something.

Chicken tends were initially, and I like to try to, before I actually read your messages, I like to go like, what do you talking about? So the summer that chicken tends chicken, chicken tends were inevitable. Okay, so what happened.

I don't literally from that, I don't know what .

why we attend is. He were they enable, that's what, that's what I said. He said they were in and you can read the summary again. The whole thing I said Jones suggests moving something chicken tends were unin .

IT said exam what I don't .

know here I I can try .

the message but like .

don't I I got to scroll up but hey, talking about complaining um I thought of something that currently fuck in annoying ahead well, um you have an ultra mac studio just so happens that the m four pro mac mini is technically more powerful that alone that and say where we live in the future yeah um but .

it's a box. It's a great deal not engh .

I think it's two hundred but anyway still good deal but the storage and RAM criminal criminally Priced.

what do we do in they the thing is they have not adjusted the Prices for the rammer or stories since like twenty fourteen, and i'm sure those costs have gone down substantially since then. I'm sure they were high like sure apple was charging too much then, but like it's hard. It's hard when you guys can put out a mac mini that powerful and that is like objectively ideal, maybe the best deal in computing. But if you want .

any more .

RAM or you want anything more than five hundred gave the storage you you're .

paying at the s it's crazy. Yeah like I was on redit, I think I was on the apple sub redit. Uh, somebody found out that you could just IT was cheaper, uh, to just buy two base model mac mini then to buy one that had the combination story like that's crazy. Uh.

what I say is we buy two mac mini base models and we have send them to look, he can just, he can make whole video about IT saw them together, be easy. Yeah, he can make a whole video about, yeah, they do IT. And then we get IT and we win.

I like IT. I found the text, this is the area. So in regards to moving something, you you were saying that a girl should move out here.

That's what you said, so that but then the chicken tends is said, you said, this is a various, this is going to be a whole conversation OK be so fun. I was eating chicken tends and couldn't feel the chicken with my carson. so if i read correctly tell what.

was happening until the very into that and i wrote.

IT if i remember correctly yeah mario card and we were quite obsessed.

with time trials.

yeah we were playing a lot of mario.

card like i was doing time trials every night your sun went dumb maybe twenty hours of time trials until my thun for like days was numb.

like is a table at all.

do you like a yeah from being flatten like this first so long yeah and then this finger was like a raw the skin was raw from the trigger but he was mainly this like how my pressing the where your.

finger goes num for the price too hard it's a it's.

time time go.

the hardness of the a press does not.

dictate the speed you know your thum was.

never know i don't.

think so but i at the point is i couldn't feel my chicken tender that's crazy because.

of my cartoon yeah people don't realize how crazy of a game mario cart is.

is the best pretty in fact nintendo themselves can just really really improve the mood if i drop in a switch too like no pressure anything but like america would really do well with a nice switch to surprise.

you know i agree did you know that i want to say i i just read this i could be wrong but pretty sure maria card eight deluge on switch is the best selling game on that platform oh yeah.

and it's probably easily the goodness it's already it's like perfect game you can even you can even complain that they haven't released a new morial card game in ten years because it's like what what more would.

you do it's a perfect game yeah it's already at a ty almost sixty five million units jesus that's crazy yeah we didn't turn the air conditioning of hope that sounds okay little fun we're not professionals.

i am after this part i.

am man it's been really fun you're like your video game resurgence has been such a treat for me.

has a wish make a video about that like falling back in love with video documentary about me.

can we put on an exercise ball like naked jacky anybody out there who watched name jacky don't you get that what is he's an awesome youtube r kay.

the guy that's on a green screen i i o k o k well we have our p s two setups so we could like record old footage of me plane smacked down versus in.

oh my godness so many wrestling things yeah we've outed you fully on here as a big restyling fan that doesn't come through i talk about.

now we don't talk about IT but IT has been mentioned i am pretty sure but like yeah no it's i am i am out of the wrestling closet uh and roman ranges to thank for that yeah he is my tribal chief we try achieve speaking of uh we should do we should do ads for a real tribal chief audio bloom.

yeah i'm right.

you know what really taken for granted these days your privacy oh yes data brokers their larger than you yeah larger than life do you know why there's too many of them that's just a one burn and i'm just a one journ and data brokers have entire teams where is their entire they shop to the office here things i know and the the hard part is not just you you might be like a whatever you know my stuff can be out there but if they get your stuff there are also going after your relative stuff and i'm sure they would improve bunch stuff on search you can find about yourself by your relatives IT doesn't need to be there a team to help you fight back against the data brokers.

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Okay, all right, so well, okay.

yeah so OK so here's what's happening is not just about poo, but like this is a weird problem. And I don't I just don't know who to talk to about all to everybody. good. So every day of my life, if I remember to, I don't eat until about four five pm and I limit that eating for like a couple hours uh and that's the benefit is on a meanness shit less terrible things yeah but i'm also I cut out some of the best stuff i've .

been eating because .

so I don't have a breakfast. I don't have lunch anymore, right? Yeah but my breakfast is regularly like greek y augured and a pizer toast like it's like nicely baLances stuff.

But now it's like .

dinner time roles around and it's just like I just have some pizza and then i'm done heat him. So then it's now it's less terrible stuff, but it's also just terrible stuff.

We are just a garbage fossil for pizza.

Yeah but I also don't wanna eat Better, but you feel Better.

Oh yeah, great. No, that's all the matters. Sacrifices were worth IT. I I don't want to have such bad poop s anymore well, have you once the last time you check your blood oxygen levels.

what you gotta .

just trust the process once the last time you check your blood of those, well.

this watch ah doesn't have the future currently funny.

I have update the your your watch doesn't have IT yeah what watch is that? What is that? It's not an overwatch. Exactly what the overwatch doesn't fork have a either because of mathematics uh, I just read their trial has finally begun that I just started.

yes.

So like what is the almost a full years since I was banned from apple watch and then apple didn't address IT at all like the apple water is that came out have less features?

Yeah and they're going to get and they .

just think that's fine.

They don't i'm .

sure they don't come on, listen, what is more valuable waiting to fight mass mo or just settling like so your customers can have the feature that the hardware is in the watch and you just had to turn off because of them. All they want was a cut. They want you to buy the patent, do that. I mean, if they are onna, try to take the case, they didn't steal IT somehow. If if they maybe over the long term, they they think they're get more money by not paying massive m ever at all forever.

How likely do you think IT? Is that apple just standing on business right now? There's just like, no, it's tim time.

Yeah, but he stands on business.

Tim time is a hard mother fucker.

He well, in less until you get to the eu.

Yeah he well, the thing the E U, that's an entire it's a lot of contract, fuck, but it's like a lot of people. No, tim doesn't realize how much life has. I feel like he probably knows Better than we. No, no, no, no.

no, no, no. If look what has happened, that's something like that. Look not like trump at what has happened, the things that have happened, what has happened? All you have to do is look at what has happened.

What's tell me? I'm died here.

I know.

Did we really have to come back from the ad? Break me, talk about .

my and poo. I know we OK okay. So I saw a lot of people on twitter and you to comments coming back to be like, hey, john, or sorry, yes, because we should on you say that you were like what the kids like you you were glazing apple because we've been trying to say in multiple videos is a very slippery, slow.

Sure, you love U, S, B, C. And the iphone. That's great. But that is where IT starts. And it's a trojan horse because soon after that, they're going going to take more liberties and take more and more away until apple is no longer the company that they that they wanted to be.

And now it's gone even further to wear like the apple pencil is in question in the E. U. Now like this is very, this is very easy, tim cook, that in fact, the more countries that have, they are in the eu, that's that. I think that gives him more leverage because what he should do, what he should have done from the start, but he should do soon now, is threatened to drop sales of the iphone in those countries because then the people, we're going to lose their fuck in mind, they can buy an iphone and know like he's got to call the e use bluff.

I will say though, like android is a lot more popular outside the us yeah like especially in europe and you know like china.

places like that IT must not be popular enough. Be like if if tim is bowing down and doing what they want, they're obviously sell in enough there there just reverse engineer call their bluff because there's gonna keep taking stuff away and then it's gonna look fuck in silly. When after twenty changes that they made, you're like, okay, I draw W A line here for .

real well on the bright side, this apple pencil thing like it's specifically about international Opera.

the ipad, your Operability .

the wall look at you interOperability thank a with third party pens and sciences so that's I mean, whatever no, that's not gonna lesson that's not going to lessen the the apple pencil .

IT is I don't think so. That literally is that is like the only reason you get an apple pencil over the log attack, fuck and crayon wow.

I mean, I seen what you're saying.

but they can lodge at ground like thirty books. If he does all the same things. It's like, why? Why even make stuff? Why even fucked and makes stuff? Why even try to like so why try to even incorporate substantial unique features in your products if the e is going to be like all was good idea, everyone else needs to take IT now they're are allowed, by the way, fuck you in your products like that. What that is IT makes no sense. What is the initiative to make anything unique and cool if you're onna have to give IT .

everyone else anyway I just I doesn't a feel that you're gonna give anything up mabe maybe I missed under like I just .

feel like apple that's like the eu coming not even kidding. The equivalent is the eu coming in and saying, oh, all blue tooth headphones now get the h two chip. You have to put every company gets to put that in there. Now that's exactly what that is.

They'd probably a lot of money sell those chips. No.

that's what this is.

I just say the company can just make them .

yeah like they're not buying them from apple. I guess what i'm .

saying is just because they're going to add functionality for the logitech folk and crayon, that doesn't mean that the apple pencil are going to get .

worse is what i'm saying. That means sales for apple pencil we're onna get worse .

and that's what tim cook .

is worried about. Maybe yes, those things don't make the apple pencil perform any worse if you have one by one, if you the same thing with the same features for thirty box.

there is an argument to be made that more competition for apple might not be a bad thing. nice. You know the hang on to listen what are you so dramatic? Come back.

You're going to tell anything down. Okay, catch I know on my god. Okay think about IT like this. Um the batteries and apple pencils when they die too dead, they if they are too dead, that IT is fucked in and apples just like a tough to so .

like like why why, why do you let me go to zero percent? Why is nothing in the pencil .

like a couple? Maybe apple having some more competition in this regard, like it's not a .

bad that but this is a competition .

I think it's this is .

voluntarily giving up like trade sequence for because the E. U. Said so I .

don't think IT is I just think that like all apples gonna do I would think is open up some pats for like a lodge like whatever third party stylist to just maybe have more functionality. Maybe this is just specific little things.

Yeah it's mostly like the pressure sensitivity and the like being able tilt.

Yeah I get you're right.

That's literally the only reason to buy apple pencil over anything else. And then if you can disagree.

no, I disagree what I mean because headed shoulder, usually the apple pencil is just Better like it's going to, no matter what, it's still gonna be Better. Like it's going to feel Better. It's gonna build qualities be Better.

Yes, of course, but some people don't think that the reason you buy IT, like when we first start expLoring ipad stuff, that is one of the first things I looked at. Should I get apple pencil or the logitech? What should I just like get a cheaper one? And no, like, obviously the apple pencil is gonna feel Better, be half be a Better experience. But that wouldn't stop me from spending thirty dollars, seventy dollars less. The only reason got an apple pencil over the logistic thing is because literally IT did more.

I see your point. Go head. Let me refuted with logic, refuted and reason.

Get good. Look at mac as a platform. Look at your mac over there.

Yeah, you don't have .

a studio display. You don't have a studio display. X, R, whatever the fuck.

Five thousand dollar monitor for no reason. But you do have a magic keyboard in a magic mouse. Kay mac forever has supported fully other keyboards and mice.

And what have you inputs? But you specifically have you picked out apple stuff, which, by the way, I think they fuck and suck. go. Not a hang on. But my point is you are probably your your line of thinking is probably way more similar to like the average a mac product enjoyer.

i'm just waiting for you dunk because I have an instant robot. Tle.

okay, let me make sure i'm done hanging on. I think I want more thing before kill. And my point is, I mean, it's been this it's been more open on mac.

A look out, open the software. Mac, but like up store revenue is still good. Mac, like apple's first party software, is still fucking crazy good and well optimized. And like there's there's still a path forward for everybody to get at the piece. This I just don't think this is the doom saying death of .

the comment.

I mean.

it's going to words that always wrong.

I do have the .

magic keyboard, magic mass. 嗯， uh, magic mouse is the whatever like. Personally, I prefer how gestures work on the magic mouse.

Like that is a Better experience. I know it's uncomfortable for a lot of people. People don't like, I like that O. Um you can obviously buy a third party keyboard.

Yeah what you cannot buy is a third party keyboard with a touch I D bun that is like a proprietary single like there's a security chip that works with that and that's IT yeah, this would be like the E. U. Send any keyboard manufacturing can put touch idea on there.

HMM. Okay, fair point. I think we're getting a little bit away.

If only I just feel like we're getting a little bit away from IT because that's like a security concern, like biometric data. You know if the E. U. Rolled on that, I feel like they would even be like, okay, but like .

got to be secure. The stuff is still going to the security enclave. It's not like, it's not like when you do a touch I D thing that is going to be be sent to log attack, it's the connection to the security enclave in the touch I D button that apples not giving up yeah but like because that's the only leverage they have. That's like I know that why why invent something like touch I D put in your products? If someone else is just going to be able to take IT, then do the same thing like offer a an alternative using your features?

true. I mean, if if apple for some reason would be forced to license they're touch I D technology probably would make a lot of money. No, I think they would.

I'm telling you, they make a way more selling the whole product.

They don't iceni. I mean, they do like it's not like they would have to give a away for free.

And I think there's a lot of good competition in apple pencil stuff like a lot of college students and kids who aren't very heavily art focused or just wanted to notes, logic, ron and anything else that, that is an alternative is a perfect thing to buy. It's much more worth your money. You can buy multiple if you lose one.

It's not a scary, especially if your student traveling back and for from school. Uh, apple the way apple pencil has aligned itself with ipad that has extra features that those other ones don't like to take to force apple to make that to just like hand that over to large, take that like that doesn't just the competition exists. That to me is just unfair.

I mean, the whole thing being Mandates to do things that you don't want to do is kind unfair. Like as a general rule, agree with that. I just don't think it's a big deal.

What in terms like the apple pencil tech, think of IT like this. There is a lot of people who probably prefer a logic crane or a lot of digital artists use things like welcomes, like separate entire tablet art, art machine infrastructures. What if added support on apple devices for a third party things would draw more people into ecosystem?

I don't think I just don't think that would happen.

I think there's .

a chance like maybe yeah.

i'm just saying there there's silver linings to all of these things.

It's like would you be O, K, with apple licensing out a message twenty box month.

what do you mean exactly like you could access to free of the year.

your mac or whatever? No, if if a, the E, U, because there's a, there a is an email threat fill shelter from two thousand and eleven where they discussed offering eye message for android and I don't know if the Price was discussed like glitters say hypothetically ally twenty box a month and you get eyes message on any device .

on I mean you don't think .

that hurts them.

Ah I don't know. I mean, i'm not them.

but I like the the will they make a shot on the money? Yeah but that with apple customers, that's not where the transaction stops. If IT was an android user getting a message, that's where their transaction ends LED.

Apple, if you want I message and you have to buy an iphone. Now you're buying iphone, paying for the hardware. You're also now buying into all of the services that are there just because you are in the ecosystem.

And yes, the customer is valuable if you're buying there that I mean, at the end at the end of the day isn't apple's whole pitch. We make the hardware and the software they work together. That's like their only leverage over the rest of the industry.

No, you would never have a point. I mean, devils advocate could say that, uh, a trickle of apple services like there, there are people out there who don't have iphones that find way apple T V, apple music things like that because like I think compared to spotify, apple music as, uh, higher quality or something. I've think people will talk about IT. Like there there are difference.

I will. Apple music has higher quality when you're on an apple device using airports.

Oh yeah I I was going to say um in the same vain maybe a service like a message being accessible from android IT would give you a taste of apple. Be like, oh dam and this is a nice okay, I want to buy iphone next year well.

I think right now, message is one of the only things that they android is quickly catching up in terms of like stability.

Yeah.

I mean, some could argue .

with the most day .

one I like even as me. If my message was licensed out, even I would start to consider that OK do I actually need this? Because at that point this phone is worthless to me. Like, oh, kay, it's a piece of shit.

The only like, the only reason I am still here is because one I like complaining about IT that's fun yeah but too it's like this is the product is all of this working together? That's the product. And if I drop one, then it's like, well, then i'm questioning max.

And like mac is in mac arguably one of the reasons I stop an iphone because mac is perfect, if you like that so much. IT is one of the only product categories that is making giant leaps year over year. And what I didn't expect, no, I didn't expect to be more excited about max than iphone.

Yeah, I think I said that most recently yeah like I fucking I am such a mac fan yeah but now I I use iphone because I like IT like I mean, I see what you're saying in but it's it's a whole encompassing thing like we're caught like Price the untangle I work, it's not onna happen but now I see what you're saying and it's .

like here's the thing with U. S. B, C. I think univerSally everyone like that decision. IT was time and that's why we got shit on when we came and said, listen, we know we were looking at the bigger picture and when we say, okay, yes, this is good but step back and consider that they're starting with this because it's good and you'll agree with IT yeah just 嗯 and now we're actually having a conversation。 We're like, is that okay?

Professionals in this industry and where you like, we have a slight disagreement on IT like that is a big step away from the universal love of U. S. B.

C. So what's like they made multiple. There's a lot of things are fragmented now because of the E. U. Like apple intelligence can come to europe yet.

Like yeah ah is that R C S? It's also like a lot of yes a lot of stuff from I O S eighteen I think I was seventeen towards the end of its run。 I think IT did not did get rcs first four europe, but there's like things that europe and the rest the world misses out on because they have to like work on the function. Everything like they are just they have completely conceded there and it's wasting time and resources. And I think there has to be a line drawn somewhere and preferably kind of soon yeah no.

you're not wrong.

The more they get used to just being like do this and tim cocos org a is the more they're gonna keep doing that stuff .

yeah you know wrong honestly. I mean, I think .

it's impossible .

to tell how much of like delays with apple intelligence are due to E U. Restrictions or whatever. Yeah, i'm sure IT all factors and i'm sure. But like at the end of the day, there they won't like it's it's apple in the E U. And they have to fuck and decide. I will say I mean, i'm just guessing but like I feel like even without the eu restrictions and things like that, think it's still be like apple intelligence will will be focal now.

Oh yeah, first hate. It's even fully released in the U. S.

So while i'm educating myself, i'm really curious if the eu then we've been going for an iron hour or and four minutes yes, that inter .

was .

really um addressing. Um did you think so? The iphone has been banned in indonesia, if I heard that last week or something um and every thinking about this since you brought up like they should just play hard ball with the eu.

I'm reading about the E U. A. If there is anything specific in regards apple pencil, but apple just offered indonesia ten million dollars as a sweetener to reverse the iphone ban. So they're bargaining with indonesia.

And that's that's i'm sorry, like tim cook is one of the smartest people and I I don't want to claim definitely not smarter than tim cook. That's what i'm claiming. But like I think common sense logic here, I just I cannot believe that tim cook with his heart is that man is internally at apple, the people leaving meetings in tears and stuff.

Where's that energy like he is? So he is playing. It's so safe with all of the world leaders constantly. And I I think that apple has more leverage than they think they do. And it's just it's hard to see them benny y every time because that is like, okay, in a year, what is this company look like?

That's fair. I mean.

the U S, B, C thing was less than a year ago.

tim's position just about with an apple like since that time of leaving meetings like things have changed dramatically. Um but like I mean he also got older like Steve would literally .

go to the eu and yeah he .

he would pull some should not good thing but that that me a good thing like I think at the end of day, I think regardless, tim is making decisions that he feels as best for overall business. And like I got no reason not to trust a man, I do I .

think this what I think is happening. I think deep down, tim cook wants the hard about.

okay.

but tim cook does not report to the eu. He reports a shareholders. And the issue with playing harbor is the second you do that for at least a temporary section of the months or multiple months, there's going to be a major dip in revenue.

And that's gonna scare shareholders like they won't understand bigger picture like this. I'll be worthy in six months yeah they will panic immediately, soccer drop immediately. And tim cook is not willing to take that risk. I think he's like stuck in a pickle. And he's going to be more loyal to the shareholders.

That's that's what happens when is a publicly traded company.

But like, I feel like an effort to be made to explain to those shareholders.

I'm sure i'm sure everything we're talking about right now has been talked at nosier in meeting room and board rooms with an apple. I'm sure, tim, here's this everyday like, I know, I know, I know. Yes, I know.

So like, by the way, is a reading the mac rumors article on the regulate thing with the apple on the apple pencil IT seems that um a major thing is the automatic device switching and pressure sensitivity like just as being more feature rich. But I just mean like you know like that is part of the apple magic, right? That yes.

yes, that's when airports came out. That was the magical part like everyone made fun of the stems to nine years or whatever, but it's when you bought them and put them in yours and they just connected where you like oh because the time blue tooth isn't doing that, that's true like that that the hope okay like um in the last year they've changed. U S B C uh default apps yeah brows .

er choice uh U S.

B C not default out but um the up store b browser .

choice .

in U S B C I think fall into the that kind .

of only .

good camp yeah sure.

Uh but then .

it's like after that where yeah like APP store uh NFC technology E E has been has been altered um which I think is like sort of what this stems from maybe um and that just all in the last year.

you you I mean side .

loading is is possible like .

it's you're making good .

points from from the time he said this is I I know we were doing IT for like uh emotionality about the end of apple way apple as a company will not .

go away but your what is yeah I from when we .

said that it's only been a year that's true. Like how was a look like you? When do we .

say enough is enough? Do you do concede OK? I will start showing major concern as soon as IT seems like apple is like hamstringing or like limiting what happening.

Like I like on iphone and R N, like everything with apple intelligence. They're all still IT all seemingly is very privacy focused. It's all like we got you and an encryption solid. Everything is still like, okay, if you didn't have any eu articles knowing what they're requesting, there is an argument to be made that as a person you will have noticed nothing like oh, if they have the new charger that's IT. Ah so I guess what I said, I just to sum up, i'll start being concerned as soon as something is like a miss in the offerings or like they're like, yeah, we scaled back the encryption on I message. I be like really okay, red flags i'm freaking out now but like but like until that happens, whatever is that a .

fair position to take though? Like just because we live in a convenient spot.

I mean, it's the only position to take because when I uncharged apple but like.

okay, yeah, I see what you're saying. I think I just assume a different responsibility because we're representing not just the us, like people listening right now are not just from the us. That's true.

Like i'm very cute. Oh, I don't know how things are going over there. Like are you guys happy with and not just apple? Like, are you I mean, I hate to be political, especially today, but like, are you guys happy with how the government is being run over there?

Yeah, that's a fun idea. Guys, call us four zero, four, nine, one, nine, five, five, three zero. A lot of .

accents you say now four, four, nine or nine, five, three zero at IT .

member zed in the job, if you guys, if you're not from the us, U E, U people are use a avoid service like a free.

don't pay, pay all .

type google .

voice.

anything i'm sure there's a bunch of weird ones, bunch of a free stuff call in yeah I would love her perspective. Uh, people in the eu. Um what do you think about what happening with apple? Like I want to know if I don't believe I can't I live even know if anything's different over there. Like I mean I know what is, but I mean like from an individual use case, like what's going on, I haven't thought to look that up like a review from somebody on youtube or something i'd love to know.

Yeah, i'm very curious because like I that's one thing somehow that we have suc successfully been, I don't know, like separated from here. Like we hear about, we hear about what the governments doing. go. I don't think we ever hear about what the people think.

That's a great point. Yeah, i'd love to know. Wow, i'm sad. Do we have a call in now?

Yes, it's prety cool. Yeah, okay, we don't.

i think we are we we actually ran surprisingly conservation.

at the end yeah you.

really brought IT in in the men if we complain about apple every week i see.

i do just have a during complaint about apple corner and what really we are complained about apple which is the e u and then the apple not doing anything about IT.

i think we had a very mature discussion you only fell over and.

ran away once i was yeah one.

time what was that anyone what you did that.

i don't know this.

is probably worth.

IT i'm sure IT always probably.

very dire well guys i hope you enjoyed recycle bin.

video version let us know if you.

wanted to do IT again inaugural version.

when do this so we just do IT like this to hold on.

You looked IT up. Maybe I did you .

like this all the time. I keep looking over there because that's what the monitors but we're looking there ah hi is I mean, like worst case scenario for me creatively as if everyone is like all yeah is good because I won't put any more cameras up. Just be this.

listen.

something.

the one show. Now before we go, four weeks, four hour and thirty minutes, four weeks.

okay? And you can send this to line this. For weeks I have been trying to put this in the recycling and notes.

Okay.

I, have you ever seen the recycle bin notes? I hate linus.

yeah. I think I did. yeah.

Every week I try to get that in there, and every week I forget. So line is, this is for you. I can fuck and stand.

That's not true.

We love linus. I love linus.

What has happened is.

You falsely listening to start sometimes on you.

yeah. So right.

okay. At some point months ago, at some point months ago, I fell asleep to something definitely not linus related. Even in the slides.

IT was probably not even tech related. IT was probably something about space, to be honest, like I probably fell asleep. Listen to brian cox talk about space.

A good one. yeah. And somewhere in the middle of my sleep, youtube auto play a wind show.

And because I was sleeping, I watched all of IT. I said, I youtube things. I SAT through an entire one show. okay? So every time now, every day on my way out of sleep, linus is in my dreams because his voice is playing next to me while i'm coming into consciousness. And then I wake up to his voice every time.

It's because it's like ever sense that happen now when I go to sleep, you to place a one show and then I listen to all of IT. So he plays four. During my sleep, I listen to all of them.

So literally any any time youtube place, any video, even one of awake, it's a one show. I love you, linus. I do enjoy the one show, but you're in my dreams now, like, you have inflated my head space.

Just turn off button play. I could you make a good argument? I just want to, I just wants to know why has to be the one show specifically.

every time you know why there .

are so many other things that I like.

watch time, attention.

I have never been up to one thing, one dimension rains.

turn off auto play.

But as a feature.

you tell all these people, you tell all these people not to send .

in their text support problems.

And you, why is being tested .

to turn .

off other play?

What you mean turn off? I, okay, sure. But that is a future that I had to turn off because unlike i'm if stuck in when you and you just don't like .

what they're throwing at you algorithm ally, you have to deal with IT or turn IT off. That's what that's what the algorithm that's like. Why is every time I look at tiktok, it's funny babies. I watch one funny baby tiktok .

and they just me more. I did IT. It's like I watch and that's why it's getting ready to sleep one point in life.

You too doesn't care. Know that.

Come on now IT IT does a can tell it's not listening like .

like they say that is he's snowing and oh.

he's out. Well, I hope you enjoy the minutes in bennies of bad revenue. I have given you lines in my sleep.

I'm so happy that you feel that and that was only three minutes. Good job, but you're welcome. Some intense .

and I just can't I don't, I not free.

just turn off auto play. It's like even a sleep anyway, pick a video, fall left.

turn off to play. But the really sap is I can like actually listen the one show now.

I mean, were you really .

because yeah opportunity to show when they relive?

Why can't you turn? Why can't you watch show?

Because now IT IT is a line itself with negativity. It's not it's not blind ness anymore. It's not the one show. IT is the dream yeah is my dream state that haunts me every day of my life.

Jingo was looking a light over the, if you can see the shadow come through.

like I will happen where i'm in the shadow because I have a speaker above the shower and I will have like a youtube video on that I did in time. Well, like I was youtube. Go two minutes.

okay? Yeah, i'll be up by OK. I don't know what I was watching and watching something get in there. And then once comes on and I can get out of the shower to turn, I just to live, it's I really, I can't complain to anybody.

I really hope that nobody stands us. Alliance because you like, why is this guy? Why john process yelling of me?

understand? I love lines, but the wine show is like my sleep paralysis demon. That's what linus has become on the one show, like linus in his videos. S, there's no longer linus from the one show OK that I is trying to hurt me.

Listen, guys, anybody out there who is gifted artist, can you please illustrate? John in bed, tucked up, talked in, like under the covers line, is, is my sleep in at the at the end of his bed? Is linus like a big figure, like like one of those? Well, i'm happy you finally got that off. Chat IT feels good.

I feel like this is the first step to healing.

Turn off auto play in Better time your videos and to tell you.

you say that, but he doesn't take away the pain that i've been through. The pain is done. The damage is done.

Yeah, yeah. I will forever have a tiny little brews there and my sleeve spot and you're leaving. We'll see next week all my hat setting sanchez here from he said ago.

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