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The Pentagon’s Innovation Insurgents

2024/8/6
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Chris Kirchhoff was a founding member of the Defense Innovation Unit (DIU) and previously worked in the Obama NSC. He recently published a book called Unit X:)* How the Pentagon and Silicon Valley Are Transforming the Future of War.* He wrote:

“To the extent present military and civilian leadership is articulating its strategy, it is one built, for the most part, on a continuation of previous programmatic and budgetary trendlines. **If there is a strategy for losing a future war in China, this is it.” **

Unit X traces the evolution of the Defense Innovation Unit (DIU), a group of Pentagon insurgents who are fighting to change how the DoD relates to emerging technologies.

We discuss:

  • The origin story of DIU and its early struggles to break Pentagon bureaucracy;

  • How DIU leveraged “waiver authority” to circumvent red tape under Defense Secretary Ash Carter;

  • Why the defense industrial base is ill-equipped to keep pace with technological change;

  • The case for shifting more DoD spending to non-traditional tech companies;

  • Lessons from commercial spaceflight for future AI governance, including potential issues with a “Manhattan project for AI.”

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