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Data Wars and the DOJ

2024/11/12
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Lee Licata和Devin DeBacker讨论了司法部关于数据安全的新规提案,该提案旨在保护美国公民的敏感个人数据免受外国对手的侵害。他们解释说,该规章关注的是外国对手通过公开市场等合法途径获取数据,而非通过黑客手段窃取数据。他们还解释了该规章的合规和执行机制,以及司法部如何发现和调查违规行为。他们强调,司法部优先考虑合规,但也会使用其执法工具,包括民事处罚。他们还讨论了根据公众意见对该规章进行的修改,以及行业对该规章的总体接受程度。他们解释了该规章没有采用某些州隐私法的规定,因为国家安全措施与一般隐私保护的目标不同。他们还讨论了该规章如何减轻数据通过第三方转售或再出口的风险。最后,他们讨论了该规章的起源,以及司法部如何组建一个团队来实施该规章,并与其他机构进行协调。他们认为,合规应成为企业业务流程的一部分,并应实施有意义的处罚以确保遵守规定。 该规章旨在解决外国对手获取美国公民敏感个人数据的国家安全风险,这些数据可能被用来针对美国的国家安全利益。该规章关注的是外国对手通过公开市场等合法途径获取数据,而非通过黑客手段窃取数据。该规章旨在关闭外国对手获取美国公民数据的“前门”,而其他机构则致力于关闭“后门”。该规章与OFAC和出口管制制度有很多相似之处,旨在采取更系统化的方法来应对数据安全风险。该规章禁止美国个人与特定国家或个人进行某些类型的交易,并对其他交易施加限制。该规章的合规和执行机制借鉴了出口管制和OFAC的模式,包括记录保存、年度报告、审计以及民事处罚等。司法部优先考虑合规,但也会使用其执法工具。司法部拥有多种工具来发现和调查违规行为。根据公众意见,对该规章进行了一些修改,包括增加了对关注国家的分析、批量数据阈值、经济影响评估以及新的豁免。尽管行业可能会游说以争取例外,但司法部认为行业对该规章总体上持接受态度。该规章没有采用某些州隐私法的规定,因为国家安全措施与一般隐私保护的目标不同。该规章通过合同限制和报告要求来减轻数据通过第三方转售或再出口的风险。该规章源于司法部在其他交易特定授权方面的经验,旨在解决重复出现的风险和缓解措施。司法部正在组建一个团队来实施该规章,并与其他机构进行协调。合规应成为企业业务流程的一部分,并应实施有意义的处罚以确保遵守规定。

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The Department of Justice's (DOJ) new proposed rule on data security aims to mitigate national security risks arising from foreign adversaries' access to sensitive personal data of Americans. This data can be exploited to compromise national security interests through various means, such as surveillance, blackmail, and coercion. The rule focuses on closing the "front door" to data breaches, addressing the issue of data readily available on the open market.
  • Foreign adversaries can exploit sensitive personal data to threaten national security.
  • The rule focuses on closing the "front door" to data breaches by restricting access to data openly available on the market.
  • Other mechanisms address "back door" breaches.

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To discuss the Department of Justice’s new proposed rule on data security, we interviewed two brilliant guests from the ChinaTalk Hall of Fame — DOJ National Security Division attorneys Lee Licata and Devin DeBacker.

Before DOJ, Lee was an attorney at DHS and then CBP, while Devin was a partner at Kirkland & Ellis and then worked with the Office of White House Counsel. Today we’ll be discussing the DOJ’s new proposed rule on data security). 

We get into…

  • DOJ’s plan to protect your data from foreign adversaries,

  • How public comments have shaped the proposed rule since the last time we interviewed Lee and Devin,

  • DOJ’s tools for enforcing corporate compliance,

  • The differences between data security regulations, privacy laws, and export controls,

  • Why some public comments get accepted and some get rejected,

  • The DOJ playbook for assembling a dream team of talented bureaucrats.

Thanks to Nicholas Welch for hosting this interview!

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