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Frontend platforms, with Matt Biilmann (Netlify) - S04E06

2023/6/1
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Matt Biilmann 回顾了 Netlify 出现之前前端开发的模式,以及 Netlify 如何通过 Jamstack 架构改变了这一现状。他解释了 Jamstack 的核心概念,即解耦前端体验层,使其独立于后端进行构建和部署,从而提高开发效率。他还谈到了 Jamstack 的普及过程,以及 Netlify 在这一过程中所扮演的角色。他认为,虽然 Jamstack 已经成为主流,但大部分公司仍在使用旧的构建方式。Netlify 的未来目标是进一步简化前后端接口,并为非开发者提供更便捷的工具,以促进 Jamstack 的更广泛应用。 David Mytton 和 Jean Yang 就 React 框架的流行、前端框架生态系统的未来发展趋势以及 Netlify 的发展战略与 Matt Biilmann 展开了深入讨论。他们探讨了如何选择合适的框架来构建不同类型的项目,以及如何应对前端框架生态系统的快速变化。他们还探讨了数据和状态管理在 Jamstack 架构中的作用,以及 Netlify 如何通过 Gatsby 收购来增强其数据管理能力。

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This chapter explores the challenges of web development before Netlify, focusing on monolithic applications, the limitations imposed by backend platforms, and the lack of suitable tooling and infrastructure. It highlights the shift towards decoupled web experience layers and the emergence of Jamstack.
  • Dominating toolsets were WordPress, Drupal, Joomla, Adobe Experience Manager, Sitecore, EpiServer, Shopify, Magento.
  • Backend developers often dictated frontend choices.
  • The Jamstack model was created to address the limitations of monolithic architectures.

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In this episode, we speak with Matt Biilmann), CEO of Netlify). We discuss what it was like deploying code before Netlify, whether there is about to be a fragmentation in the JavaScript ecosystem as React gets more opinionated, where state and data fit into the Jamstack model, and how you might reach developers with a new project today. You’ll hear about the evolution of Netlify’s model, the Gatsby acquisition, and how Netlify has succeeded at staying on top of the fast-changing landscape.

Hosted by David Mytton) (Console)) and Jean Yang) (Akita Software)).

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ABOUT MATT BIILMANN

Matt Biilmann is the CEO and Co-Founder of Netlify, a cloud platform that helps people build, deploy, and operate websites, web applications, and web stores swiftly and with ease. He has a long history of building DevTools, content management systems, and web infrastructure. Matt has been an active participant in open source and contributed to many well-known projects, including Ruby on Rails, JRuby, and Mongoid. Since launching its private beta back in March 2015, Netlify is now used by 3.5 million developers and is one of the fastest-growing web development platforms in the world.

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**Matt Biilmann: **I really believed that we would move away from that model and move to a model where we would decouple the actual web experience layer into its own layer that web teams can build and deploy independently, and hopefully much faster. But I also saw at the time that there wasn't any tooling or infrastructure or workflows around that. So early on, when we started Netlify, there wasn't even a name for this web building. We had to come up with the term “Jamstack” to describe this idea of building the web experience layer on its own and typically seeing the backend split into all these different APIs and services, like all the headless CMSs that’s really become mainstream now.

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**Matt Biilmann: **Right now, what we're seeing happening around generative AI is probably going to change a lot of how we interface with computers over time, right? It’s already almost at the edge where you can imagine stitching a few tools together, and you would be having this kind of conversation with a program, rather than with a human. I think as that starts to happen, that will start to massively redefine how we consume content and commerce and so on. It will probably change a lot of what it means to build a website.

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