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The Competition is Your Costs

2024/11/27
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Jason Fried 认为,企业应更关注自身业务的运营效率和成本控制,而非一味关注竞争对手。他指出,许多企业亏损的原因在于自身运营问题,例如人员冗余和成本过高,而非竞争对手的强大。他以 37signals 旗下的 HEY 产品为例,说明了通过控制成本,即使客户数量较少,也能实现盈利。他强调,市场通常很大,企业无需争取所有客户,专注于特定付费客户群体即可。 David Heinemeier Hansson 则进一步阐述了成本控制的重要性。他认为,关注成本是企业唯一可控的因素,而竞争对手的行为则不可控。企业应专注于自身可控因素,例如成本控制,而非不可控因素,例如竞争对手行为。他建议企业根据产品生命周期(现金牛、狗、流星)进行成本管理,利用现金牛产品为其他产品提供资金支持。他还强调,成本控制能够使企业更有耐心,并为新项目的成长提供时间,使企业在运营中更加轻松和灵活。 此外,他们还讨论了 37signals 如何进行成本管理。他们表示,虽然 37signals 旗下有多个产品,但他们主要关注整体盈利能力,而非个别产品的成本平衡。他们会根据具体情况对不同产品的成本进行调整,例如,HEY 产品的客户支持成本相对较高,他们会想办法降低成本。他们不会对每个产品进行详细的年度预算,而是根据实际情况进行调整。他们保持健康的利润率,这使得公司能够进行更多尝试和实验。 Jason Fried 和 David Heinemeier Hansson 共同探讨了企业在成本控制方面容易忽视的方面,例如员工数量、云计算成本和 SaaS 软件成本。他们建议企业谨慎招聘,避免人员冗余;同时,他们分享了 37signals 降低云计算成本和 SaaS 软件成本的经验,例如,他们通过退出云计算服务和精简 SaaS 软件的使用,节省了大量的成本。他们还强调,企业应关注 SaaS 软件的总成本,而非单价,并定期审查 SaaS 软件成本。他们认为,成本控制不仅能够节省成本,还能提高业务效率和清晰度,增强业务的稳定性。

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Key Insights

Why should businesses focus more on controlling costs than worrying about competition?

Focusing on costs allows you to build a business that works for you, regardless of what competitors are doing. If your costs are under control, you can create a sustainable business model that doesn't rely heavily on external factors.

How does 37signals manage costs across its multiple products?

37signals generally looks at the overall package rather than breaking down costs by individual products. However, they do make adjustments where necessary, such as reducing support costs for Hay due to its lower price point.

What are the key categories of products in a business portfolio according to 37signals?

The key categories are cash cows (stable, high-revenue products), dogs (stable but low-revenue products), and shooting stars (fast-growing but not yet profitable products).

Why did 37signals decide to eliminate their physical office space?

The decision was driven by the high renewal cost of the lease and the low usage of the office. They realized the value wasn't there and chose to invest in company meetups in different cities instead.

What are some common areas where entrepreneurs might overlook expenses?

Entrepreneurs often overlook the number of employees they have, potentially overhiring. Additionally, software companies may overlook the high costs of cloud computing and SaaS subscriptions.

How did 37signals reduce their cloud computing costs?

37signals analyzed their expenses and found that a significant portion of their revenue was going to AWS. They decided to exit the cloud and bring their operations in-house, reducing costs by over half.

What is the aesthetic approach to business costs according to David Heinemeier Hansson?

The aesthetic approach involves ensuring that costs feel proportionate and are worth the value they provide. It's about cutting out needless expenses and maintaining a sharp, efficient business model.

How does 37signals balance cost control with the value of company meetups?

37signals believes that while cutting costs is important, the value of company meetups in energizing and uniting the team is paramount. They ensure that meetups are not penny-pinched to the point of losing their value.

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This chapter explores the misconception that the main competition is other businesses. It emphasizes focusing on controlling business costs to achieve profitability. The discussion highlights the importance of managing expenses and not over-hiring. It also touches upon the idea of focusing on a specific customer segment to avoid direct competition.
  • Focusing on controlling costs is more important than worrying about competitors.
  • Most markets are large enough for many businesses to succeed.
  • Businesses should focus on their own operations and cost structure.
  • The customer is not a commodity; different customers value different things.

Shownotes Transcript

Remaining profitable in business is a simple equation — sales revenue exceeding operating costs. In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, 37signals’ co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson explain why controlling costs should be a bigger focus than what your competition is doing. They share some simple strategies for analyzing costs and share why operating without a formal office space might be worth considering.

Key Takeaways:

  • 00:37 – Why you should stop worrying about what everyone else is doing
  • 02:26 – Focusing on the things within your control
  • 06:58 – Analyzing your business' cash cows, dogs, and shooting stars
  • 11:21 – Budgeting doesn’t always mean being frugal
  • 12:24 – Weighing cost against value
  • 16:16 – What the company gained by letting go of a physical office space
  • 18:31 – Aesthetics of a well-run, profitable business
  • 21:06 – The biggest expenses entrepreneurs often overlook

Links and Resources:

"You only compete with one thing" from Jason Fried's HEY World)"Our cloud-exit savings will now top ten million over five years" from David Heinemeier Hansson's HEY World)

37signals' meet-up expenses)

Books by 37signals)

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HEY World | HEY)

The REWORK podcast)

The Rework Podcast on YouTube)

The 37signals Dev Blog)

37signals on YouTube)

@37signals on X)