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Everybody Works

2024/9/18
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REWORK

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37signals' co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson discuss their unique approach of operating without full-time managers. They reflect on the company's experience with full-time managers and share why they've moved to a flatter organization.Key Takeaways:

  • 00:54 - The before and after of 37signals' experience with full-time managers
  • 08:34 - The founders thoughts on being directly involved in the business
  • 10:36 - Why the company's management hierarchy works best for the founders
  • 17:17 - 37signals' career ladder doesn't necessarily mean people leadership
  • 20:03 - What company size makes sense for having more management layers

Links and Resources:

  • HEY World post – We once more have no full-time managers at 37signals)
  • Books by 37signals)
  • Sign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.com)
  • HEY World | HEY)
  • The REWORK podcast)
  • The Rework Podcast on YouTube)
  • The 37signals Dev Blog)
  • 37signals on YouTube)
  • @37signals on X)