37signals' co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson discuss their unique approach of operating without full-time managers. They reflect on the company's experience with full-time managers and share why they've moved to a flatter organization.Key Takeaways:
- 00:54 - The before and after of 37signals' experience with full-time managers
- 08:34 - The founders thoughts on being directly involved in the business
- 10:36 - Why the company's management hierarchy works best for the founders
- 17:17 - 37signals' career ladder doesn't necessarily mean people leadership
- 20:03 - What company size makes sense for having more management layers
Links and Resources:
- HEY World post – We once more have no full-time managers at 37signals)
- Books by 37signals)
- Sign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.com)
- HEY World | HEY)
- The REWORK podcast)
- The Rework Podcast on YouTube)
- The 37signals Dev Blog)
- 37signals on YouTube)
- @37signals on X)