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任性家园:如末日松茸,在村庄废墟上的缠绕与共生|别任性155

2024/7/2
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通过在《Mac Geek Gab》播客中分享有用的技术提示,特别是关于Apple产品的版本控制。
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杜玥:我们播客“团力结构”关注顺应自然的生活方式,以节气为主题,邀请生态农人、返乡青年等分享经验。我们自己也经历了搬家的过程,从乡村到城郊,体验半农半X的生活,感受到了生活节奏的变化和节气的影响。 在乡村生活,人与人之间的边界感更弱,连接更紧密,这与生态系统中生物间的自然连接类似。 我奶奶的生活方式,大部分时间用于日常家务,从中获得满足感,这让我反思城市生活中被分割的生活状态。 乡村生活需要投入更多时间在基本生活上,但每个人的平衡点不同,对基本生活投入的时间比例也不同。 Alex:我搬到云南大墨雨村,观察乡村的社会关系和气候变化。大墨雨村雨量增大,气候反差大,每年夏至前后有采摘菌子的活动。 选择在大墨雨村生活是因为它多元包容,有熟人网络支持。我将在这里的三年生活视为实习期,为未来在更偏远地区生活做准备。 城市生活过于独立,而乡村生活能更好地满足人与人之间的依赖和互助。多样性是社区和生态系统稳定的关键。 选择农村生活是为了寻找城市之外的可能性,而非为了农村本身。农村生活需要投入更多时间在基本生活上,例如做饭,这需要适应。 自然具有韧性,最终会恢复到原始状态。无论在城市还是乡村,只要用心,都能找回完整的生活。 月丽:我在深圳做屋顶农场,想在城市里创造接近土地、了解食物生长过程的空间。 城市中也有一些积极的转变,例如一些公司开始关注员工的精神成长和社区建设。人最终会回归自然,找回完整的生活。 于建刚:我在浙江桐乡养蚕、缫丝、种杭白菊,从事江南传统的农业。 今天的农村比城市更单调,因为资源不断被城市抽取。许多农村虽然存在,但其活力已流失,如同“末日松茸”。 许多农村的年轻人选择城市化的生活方式,导致在农村感到压抑。 放慢生活节奏,专注于当下,可以获得更多耐心和满足感。

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Why did Alex choose to move to the rural village of Damuyu?

Alex chose Damuyu because it offered a supportive community network, which was crucial for someone new to rural living. The village is diverse and inclusive, with a strong presence of women and LGBTQ+ families, aligning with Alex's ideal of a gender-diverse and accepting environment. Additionally, the village provided a 'beginner-friendly' setting, allowing Alex to ease into rural life without starting from scratch.

What challenges do newcomers face when adapting to rural life?

Newcomers often struggle with the increased time and effort required for basic daily tasks, such as cooking, heating, and maintaining a home, which can be more labor-intensive than in urban settings. Additionally, the lack of modern conveniences and the need to adapt to a slower, more self-sufficient lifestyle can be challenging for those accustomed to city life.

How does the diversity of a community contribute to its stability?

A diverse community, whether in terms of people, industries, or ecosystems, tends to be more stable and resilient. Diversity allows for a variety of skills, resources, and perspectives, which can help the community adapt to changes and challenges. This principle applies to both social communities and agricultural ecosystems, where biodiversity promotes health and sustainability.

What is the significance of the 'Midsummer' celebration in Scandinavian cultures?

Midsummer is a major public holiday in Scandinavian countries like Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and Finland. It celebrates the longest day of the year and is associated with themes of fertility, magic, and nature. Traditional activities include dancing, drinking, and collecting flowers, which are believed to bring magical dreams or fulfill wishes when placed under pillows.

How does rural life differ from urban life in terms of community relationships?

Rural life often fosters closer, more interconnected community relationships compared to urban settings. In rural areas, neighbors are more likely to rely on each other for support, creating a sense of mutual dependency and cooperation. This contrasts with urban life, where interactions are often transactional, and people may feel more isolated despite living in close proximity.

What role do new residents play in declining rural villages?

New residents, often urban migrants, bring fresh perspectives, skills, and resources to declining rural villages. They can revitalize these areas by introducing sustainable practices, new businesses, and cultural activities. However, their presence can also lead to tensions with long-term residents, especially if the newcomers' activities disrupt traditional ways of life or exploit local resources.

Why is the concept of 'gift economy' important in rural communities?

In rural communities, the 'gift economy' fosters a sense of mutual support and interdependence. Unlike urban cash-based transactions, rural residents often exchange goods, services, and favors without direct monetary exchange. This system strengthens social bonds and creates a more resilient and interconnected community, where people rely on each other for help and resources.

What are the challenges of maintaining traditional agricultural practices in modern rural areas?

Traditional agricultural practices face challenges such as urbanization, industrialization, and the migration of younger generations to cities. These factors lead to a loss of knowledge and labor, making it difficult to sustain traditional methods. Additionally, modern economic pressures often favor large-scale, monoculture farming over small-scale, diverse agricultural practices.

How does climate change affect rural agricultural practices?

Climate change impacts rural agriculture by altering weather patterns, increasing the frequency of extreme events like droughts and floods, and shifting growing seasons. These changes can disrupt traditional farming practices, reduce crop yields, and force farmers to adapt by adopting new techniques or diversifying crops. In some regions, increased rainfall or prolonged dry spells have already significantly affected agricultural productivity.

What is the 'Mushroom at the End of the World' analogy in the context of rural villages?

The 'Mushroom at the End of the World' analogy describes how rural villages, like forests after logging, can become 'ruins' when their main populations leave for urban areas. However, these 'ruins' can also give rise to new life and opportunities, such as new residents or cultural practices, much like how mushrooms grow in the aftermath of deforestation. This phenomenon reflects both the decline and potential renewal of rural communities.

Chapters
节目开场介绍了主题,并介绍了嘉宾Alex和团力结构的成员。之后,节目围绕夏至节气展开,介绍了夏至在不同地区人们的庆祝方式和观察,以及几位主播各自在不同地区的乡村生活状态和变化。
  • 节目是别任性与团力结构的串台合作
  • 介绍了夏至节气和各地庆祝方式
  • 几位主播分享了各自在乡村生活的状态和变化

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​“昼晷已云极,宵漏自此长。”夏至这天对北半球来说因为有着最长的白昼,所以在世界各地被不同的民族用各自的方式庆祝。这次节目是与播客“团力结构”的串台——一档关于返乡青年和可持续农业的播客,按节气更新。我们的录制时间是夏至。

本期主播杜玥已经是别任性的老友(见Vol.128:在农村生活,是让我很有安全感的事 【附「女性生活者联盟」招募声明】|任性家园系列)),我在两年前拜访她和琪雯的农村小院的时候,我刚开始考虑回村生活的可能性,但还没找到合适的地点。一年半后,我已经找到了一个乡村的家,而杜玥和琪雯却失去了之前的小院子。(更多信息可以听节目或者关注公众号**@高龄小朋友**,并强烈推荐琪雯制作的手作饼干@高龄小朋友的零食铺)

现在的乡村是一些人生活的“牢笼”,同时也是另外一些人眼中的“世外桃源”。但在我们的经验中,乡村只是一座围城,里面的人想出去,外面的人想进来。不同地方的乡村大同小异,只是每个人的目的和需求大不一样。

换个角度看,乡村今天的衰落破败也许就像森林中倒下的树木、海洋中死亡的鲸鱼,只是自然界坎坷波动的一环。这一切的发生必然会给新的生命以丰盛的滋养——新村民和新资本正在像自然界中的分解者一样,涌进乡村这个正在“腐烂”的生态系统。ta们在汲取乡村剩余营养的同时,也会自然而然地生长出新的灵感火花、新的生活方式、新的乡村生态。

关于团力结构:

「团力结构」倡导顺应自然的生活方式。我们将围绕每个节气,邀请一线生态农人、返乡青年、可持续生活实践者等作为嘉宾,来一起分享对于节气、物候、传统的观察与思考。

「团力结构」主播:

杜玥,90后村居生活者,生活工作于威海。公众号:高龄小朋友

鱼缸,养蚕缫丝种菊花,生活工作于嘉兴桐乡。公众号:梅和鱼

月丽,可持续农业从业者,生活工作于深圳。公众号:梧桐岛市集

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时间点:

01:00 开场+主播和嘉宾介绍

05:26 夏至节气介绍和各地的节气观察

17:55 Alex选择大墨雨村生活至今体验

31:10 社区与生态的共同性:多元和稳定

42:36 在农村需要花更多时间在生活本身(比如喂饱自己),but 每个人在农村的生活状态可以有很多不同的“灰度”

52:10  如何面对现实的农村,破败中的“末日松茸”

1:05:55 城市里也可以生出很多新的生态,城市也可以种地,一年只织一匹布

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|文案:杜玥|