cover of episode ALO22: Finding an Absolute Return Solution for a C$11BN Pension Plan ft. Christophe L'Ahelec

ALO22: Finding an Absolute Return Solution for a C$11BN Pension Plan ft. Christophe L'Ahelec

2024/4/3
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Christophe L’Ahelec, Managing Director of Public Markets at University Pension Plan Ontario, joins Alan Dunne in this episode to discuss their approach to managing the C$11bn defined benefit pension plan. We discuss the high level Strategic Asset Allocation of the plan and also how the changed macro environment in recent years has motivated a shift in the asset allocation towards more absolute return strategies. Such strategies play a dual role of diversification and return enhancement for UPP and we discuss how Christophe thinks about an appropriate strategy allocation within absolute return. We also delve into the challenges of manager selection and evaluation, why it is important to remember that you are buying an “investment process” not historical returns when allocating to managers and discuss when is it appropriate to remove a manager and when not.


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**Episode TimeStamps: **

**02:50 - **Introduction to Christophe L'Ahelec

**07:06 - **A new initiative

**10:01 - **What kind of strategy drives their asset allocation?

**12:40 - **What goes into which bucket?

**14:45 - **What makes absolute return exposure more attractive at the moment?

**16:31 - **Constructing an absolute return portfolio

**18:38 - **How they approach trend following

**21:58 - **Why do they use leverage?

**23:32 - **What do they expect from their portfolio?

**25:12 - **Managing liabilities

**27:58 - **Public equities - where do they stand?

**30:59 - **Investing in niche strategies

**34:11 - **How they evaluate managers

**36:21 - **Open to early stage manager risk?

**41:42 - **What makes a manager stand out?

**44:56 - **When should you remove a manager?

**46:47 - **What is their governance process?

**50:36 - **How they make decisions as a team

**52:20 - **Advice for new investors

**55:34 - **Thanks for listening

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