Episode 363: New Macs, and On the Road Again
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Good morning, David.

Hey, man h, you sound fantastic. Like you're right in the same room with me, so you must be in your studio, right?

I am not eric. Can I decided to take A A last minute trip, quite last minute, and I, sitting in condone porter biota.

that's just amazing to me because you really do sound like you use some Better than your studio although like this is the new Normal for you is you're .

set up is great yeah I mean, you i'm starting to catch up to how good you sound. So it's good though is to be able to grab everything you know and throat a bag and had after the important and when .

you're back in your studio, this is the same set up you so you basically have your macbook air, I think, right jack, book here, you have an external SSD, right? And then you have that new microphone.

you want your technique, and mike, and then N O W C thunder, bob.

I le set up, you basically that in a bag, whatever you go on the road, you, your back home, you set IT up. Are you still in your studio when you set IT up? When you get home.

set IT up. Yeah, yeah. I just, I take everything out of the bag and put IT IT back together the exact same way.

The only thing that I have here that I don't have at home as a erith's box to put the Michael to raise me up a very important yeah, I do not have a cherie's box at home which I may have to buy. I don't know. I'm i'll check the credit .

card baLance and sea, you know, I use one of those swing arms yeah clamps onto my a desk h and and a very solid uh oak desk and a and then IT swings around and I can push IT may make noise here, but I you know yes, three swinging noise isolating. I I like having IT this way. The mike is sideways. You and you're set up your mike straight up and down, right? Yes, yes.

That's how I ve always had. My, my, my. So how things been for you?

Well, a world series we had finished last night. H spoilers. Press your hockey button if you don't want to hear anything about the word series, or if you don't know who want. Um but uh the the interesting throwback for me and dining when we went back in the day when he was my girlfriend and I was pretty new, I think we had just started going out. Um the yankees played the daughter's in the world series and I made a bet on the yankees and the ankle. I had won the first two games and so there was no question they're were gonna the world series and we made a bed and with, like, know the the loser takes the dinner, uh, the loser takes the winner, uh, out to dinner of their choice, something along those lines and and then of course, the dodgers swept the anchors in four .

string s so you know.

sort of a memory, a long memory for us and you deny likes to hold that over my head in in a nice way and then now the been that long, the dodgers played the ankles in the word series and and so what we made the same bet I took the anche SHE took the dodgers I am .

not happy yeah erika's fathers a huge yankees fan amy, he's ninety two, grew up in new york and he's just he's yankees through and through so I picked the ankles .

too yeah so lot of yankee's fans disappointed but IT was IT would no great dodger team uh congratulations to them uh a friend of mine was in L A, uh last night and send me a video of the moment you could tell the last out because and there was a sweep SHE was in a higher buildings. There was a sweep around downtown los Angeles and there were fireworks going off everywhere. Oh, wow, yeah, was very cool. You you could tell when the last out happen because people were just a setting off fireworks.

I guess that's yeah.

no. So um alright before I we have so much on our plate this week, but before we get into uh all the new uh hardware, all the new max that came out and we we will talk about them all, I want to take a minute and talk I you are a time a person and we knew and I ve talked about time as we talking about on the show, the the issues you've had setting time is all that stuff and I sort of got into this rabbit hole and found a thing and I said, I gotta talk him through this so let's do this and um and you do IT on your apple watch. Okay, so first thing you're going to uh present hold the digital crown to bring up schunk I O K O K and then you're going to as soon as he comes up you're gna say, just say the words five minutes okay.

do that. Five minutes.

Okay, what happened?

IT started for five years. Yeah, so that's great.

right? That's a great way. Now do IT again and say, ten minutes.

ten minutes. Yeah, what time of four minutes?

And you will now have two timers, right? That's correct. Okay, so shutting both off because we don't want the show and erupted by the time is going off.

But the the I just wanna make that point, that multiple timers, this is the way to go also setting a timer. You can go through the hoops of uh you know raising um uh you know that uh what would they call IT uh uh raised to speak. I think what what the setting is cool. So and most people, it's on by default. So I find IT a little bit tRicky to find the thing that works to make race to speak work at how many times to be raised your risk to your and said something and I didn't didn't work.

But there is a there is a sweet spot, I think, for each person, for me, it's if I raised my rist and put IT right up to the bottom of my chain, I do not, so I can even see the screen, but I almost like i'm pushing the the bottom of the watch against the bottom of my chin. That works for me, does not mean it'll work for other people. I don't know why I I don't know what IT takes to make this work.

I wish there was a more consistent way that would work for everybody. But regardless, that's obviously one short cut because if you can find consistently bring up Sunny, you just bring your you wristy up, say the timer thing, you can also say um five minute stake timer, say, and that'll named the timer. Say you can have, you can say five minute stake timer and then three minute eg.

timer. And you have two timers going, but one will be labeled eg. timer. One will be labeled stake timer. And you just have to say those where it's five minute stake timer, that to me, incredibly efficient, way Better and saying, yos kung, I set a time or for you know for biden is just that a lot and I til to remember the words but if you make IT very short efficient so that's a thing um .

but IT has IT has to be consistent and I can get that to work consistently .

yeah but present hold present hold the side button right or present hold the digital crown. That always works well.

that's true. But a lot of times, you know, mostly I use the time as for one of cooking. So i've know a lot of things on the go, lot of things cooking. I need to set a five minute time here, ten there, thirty over here, and I have my hands for, you know, i'm i'm shopping, i'm doing stuff.

So in that respect, using Sunny or what I do a lot now in the， in the kitchen is is alexa, because if IT just works, IT just works and right OK SHE doesn't. So that's that's the only thing about this. If if the the race to speak actually worked for me, then yeah, that would be a good thing too. You.

okay. So I want to say one more thing for the folks at home. Um if you if you bring up siri press and hold the digital crown is fine and then say bring up settings that will bring up settings on your apple watch, that's Better than try to remember how to find IT, right if you just say that, and then you schrock down the theory to the theory section, and then you'll see, turn on race to speak, you'll see the different options there in case you wanted do that. So that's all I I want to get through all the stuff.

wonderful.

right? So are we going to a move on now to the max?

Oh, my went a week from max. Um it's it's been you know it's been a good week for for people want the max. I'm I already bought a new mac, but I knew that the the macbook cares weren't coming out in this round. So yeah, that's why I didn't wait. I suppose I I certain I could have but yes.

IT is what IT is to be. You can't wait. You will always be waiting.

You'll never be buying. That's correct. yeah. So uh, the new imac um is m for which is what we expected. Uh, you know apple is is bring about apple intelligence in there, is there with all products now. But you know I this looks like a really nice machine. The one thing that you and I talked about this before, the one thing I would have like to have seen in a new imac is IT twenty seven in screen. The the twenty four to me is just too small so my dad .

has a twenty four in n he bought IT before this new refresh but he has a new um the twenty four and display. I think it's plenty big for most things for him. It's plenty big like I was worried that IT that he would buy IT, then he would be unhappy with the screen size.

But I said in front of IT, it's just plenty big because I sit in front of bed, laptop all the time and it's so much bigger and a laptop I get for you, you know it's not the right solution because you need a you have you know five hundred tracks open or whatever you're you're doing and you're you want as much screen that real status you can get again. Programmer, same thing that you need more screen real state. But for most people, this is a great solution.

So you know, I get IT and I I think that anybody who wants more than this screen, who has that requirement, we'll buy one of the computers that we're going to talk about, you know, as as we go through this. But I think this really is a great set up for. I just want I A computer in this room. I use IT, really email, whatever mode, what probably ninety percent may be even higher than ninety percent of the people need a computer .

for yeah and i've i've had IMAX forever since since they were first introduced. I had one of the first im acs. And I I think i've had um probably every generation up to the last few, I mean the last I mac I had boys.

I think I was an intel one. Um so two thousand and seventeen and eighteen that general uh era of imac. And they are wonderful machines.

I I just love them. I always have. But you know you put them foreign to them, and you know, apple says a super church. Yeah, that's gonna do IT. So even my up until this year, when I get the macbook care, I was recording the podcast and doing all my audio and everything on a an intel imac.

So um so what do you think about the colors?

Uh, you know I I get why they do the colors. I I would like apple to do an actual like deep purple. They always do like a very light laving fla.

Lavender fluffy purple. And I just don't like, I think with a dark and deep dark purple color, they would uh, sell a lot of those. I would buy one for sure.

I know I love these colors. I have great, playful, right? They're fun colors. They're not like that. I think this purple works, I think i'm not sure of this, but I think this is the same as the um as the uh help me here, the ipad mini six. I want to say it's the one I have and it's a purple and I love the color and IT this looks the same and it's appealing to me. But I think you know for people who are into medal to have a metal music, you know, you think the purple, that's what drives you see what I did there yeah.

I think I that's pretty good. Is anything else you like about the the imac?

Ah well, so the first thing is this feels like this announcement happened about six weeks ago. Yeah, I am struggling to believe that had happened on monday. And we're recording this on thursday.

It'll drop on friday. So it's this week that happened this week, but so much has happened this week from apple. So much new um how do you I mean, I guess I kind of like this. I don't feel like they're consuming my time by having to watch a an event. I can just read the press release and then see people's responses and then see the the takes that are digging into a detail of you know something that they don't like, something they do like or he did you know this is the case and that will get into some of that stuff. But um IT was a lot to absorb this week, didn't you think like they throw a lot at us yeah there .

was a lot going on.

So if they did IT with live events in other worlds where you you wanted to sit down and watch IT as IT happened, I think I think that won't been a lot to ask of all of us to pay attention for that long. We would have gotten fatigue. Um so I think that's interesting.

I also think it's interesting and maybe i'm wrong about this. Maybe this happens every year and I just didn't realize IT, but there was a an event video with every one of these announcements so you could go you know that they are easy to find online. You go to youtube apple youtube channel is play the easiest way to to find IT.

Um but every one of these had a you know I don't know how long they are, half hour, forty five minutes an hour whatever IT is um you know event where uh john tennis society name yes um VP senior VP of hardware I think is his title but his a lot of people are saying or some people who who have I like to listen to their opinions, they feel like they know what they're talking. Have suggested that he'll be the next CEO I you and so that you know it's good here to know him I like that but he was the tim cook wasn't IT. There was no good morning.

There was none of that. He was no john and the people that he handed off to. And I thought he did a great job. I personally like federally crack, federally Better like he's my favorite to watch because he's you know, he has that current charisma and the hair and the he laughs and he very light, harder just I like watching him go yeah, I miss phil, who maybe was my favorite to watch up on the stage.

People, incredible. He is the man.

Yeah, but then, but john did a great job. So I know I was happy to see someone stand on that day. Nothing against him, but he doesn't have that. He he he's like a almost like a numbers guy trying to explain something. You know that's not a numbers thing.

He does his best and he's you know certainly a cheer leader for apple and all that stuff, but he doesn't have the that watch ability thing, my opinion maybe there are people who just love watching tom and that's that's fine. But certainly a anyway, that that is a thing with everyone of these announcements. There's been this video they put out where it's their walk and you through which just like a the live event would have been here.

Um i'd like that. I'd like this approach and they had so much to deliver. Um so but as far as the IMAX go, um let me see if there's anything particular I was going to bring up. Oh yeah so IT comes with are not certain exactly certain of this but IT comes with either uh a mouse or a track pad and I think um i'm i'm actually a good buy one of day somebody to go to the to that process and give me a second.

So the IMAX starts at twelve ninety nine um and it's configurable up to um twenty four gigs around and IT has IT comes with the two fifty six. Get about SSD drive but you can get up to A A Terry got two thunderous USB for reports, a magic keyboard and magic most or magic trackpad included. So the most all, the track pad, whatever, when you want.

That's what I actually was checking. Okay, so okay, so part of this is I think the last generation also did this um but you pick a blue, say I imac, you get a blue uh magic mouse and and a blue so IT so the mouse the top of the mouse is White, but the bottom of the mouse the base of the mouse is is blue. Or if you get a purple, one is purple of pink, you get is a pink. Now I think that's interesting, but I think they already did this. I've just never owned one of these machines.

So I then one of the colored, i'm x, so I never had this experience but I asked someone and they said, yeah no it's it's been this way but I love that um but I also read a thing from um uh I I want to say I was a the tech who who said um that uh you can take this mouse and then use IT on you on another mac so that and again, this is probably the way it's always been but I have a known one but that to me what I don't know why why I think IT was a uh a keyboard with a with a touch I D built in. I could see that because there's that a curan clave it's tied to that there's a security issue. But with a mouse, why is that a security issue? But apparently that is the case. I don't think IT matter is it's not that big deal um I I just thought I was interesting. I I guess has IT always been that you either get a magic mouse or a magic track pad and you you choose when you buy the eye has IT do have any idea was this uh, was this the way I was?

You had a choice? I don't know. I mean, I just bought with my macbook air for one of in the studio.

I bought A A keyboard and a magic most. And IT just kind of a hooked up and work. I never even thought to try .

IT with something else. You get a choice between the keyboard or the keyboard with the numeric pad um pay an extra eighty box for that so um the me just look at the see when it's available seems like it's available yeah right away. There's no let me let me change let me change IT at more memory and see what that does IT delayed IT a week. That's that's fine. All that no matter what change you making delayed a week alright, so let's move to the next um thing, I guess the the man, alright, so let's so .

I think what want to have in the mac many power button on the bottom? What's up?

Um okay. So I had a lot of conversations with people about this and it's interesting how is divided into people who are like, you know angry that anybody would bring this up? Like why would anybody care? So what C, H, R, to turn IT up, down as that that much work.

I don't charge IT very often. I totally get that. I I don't have a Price.

You know, I don't have the magic mouse, right? I don't have the IT. Now obviously no one has the this new mac, many, but the make many.

He just reach underneath IT, and he maybe have to tilt IT up a little bit, and he hit the powers, which is nothing this doesn't, but that I could see the mouse being charged at the bottom being an issue for someone because it's just d, but it's not it's not worth getting upset about at all, right? This button is a non issue to many. It's just not even worth.

But again, a lot of people talk about that. They talk about both of these things, know as if they were one. The difference between to me, the the power button being on the bottom of the mac mini and the charging port, which is now U S, B C. Charging port on the on the magic mouse um is that you can use the mouse when you are charging.

That's the that's the issue for me and it's again the tiny est issues like it's just I have a wired mouths, I you know I just doesn't matter me, but I get but with this with the many IT doesn't affect the you know the whether it's on off IT doesn't inconvenient any way other than yeah have to tilt IT up a little bit to press press the button but how often does that happen, right? It's it's just not an issue. Um and I think the sense I get is that they did this.

They put the power button on the bottom um because IT um IT just didn't have a good location. IT wasn't a place. Um we in a work IT was convenient and I put that out the way and IT also made IT so that you could grab the the bottom in the top at the same time and gets some pressure on that sort um anyway, there are so much more to talk about about this that I almost didn't want to even bring this button thing up.

But I know so many people are talking about IT and be good to get out the way. All right. So you want to talk about the the the specifics of the mini. You like.

how do you want to approach this? Yeah, we can do that. I mean that the mini is kind of an interesting machine to me because people .

at first IT was.

you know the power. Then I came out and I started being a thing that they would use as a media hub. Uh, then I became a powerful machine. And all the way through IT was, you know, kind of a inexpensive in comparison to to others by.

I think that maybe the the bearing the leave kind of story is how cheap IT is yeah it's um what what's the low end is five ninety nine, right?

Five ninety nine for a mac, many within four. I mean, that's that's pretty.

And how much RAM does .

that come with? I'll look for that. But the um uh the other i'll tell you it's .

sixteen gigs of five ninety nine for sixteen gigs around it's only two fifty six gigs, so that may be as an issue but five ty nine IT would for N M four. Very powerful processor that that's like that's insane to me. To me, that's the best deal that apple has.

Um so I didn't mean erupt there, but I want no, I I wanted talk about this. I think that's worth mentioning that that mini it's it's a small uh it's something you can hold. They show a picture on the uh on their press release of someone's hand holding IT up in their hand.

So that's about the you if you extend your hand um so you're holding like a uh a big plate or something baLanced on your fingertips. That's about the the size of this many. It's small and it's incredibly powerful, more powerful than any machine you own.

Now I would wait her. Now maybe there's out there who has a high and whatever, but for most people, this is gonna blow away. Um I can I I know you wanted to say a thing, but can I just say one more thing?

No, no, you go. alright.

So uh, they do their apple does their comparison as they do. And I don't had a judge this right that I know people will roll the eyes when they hear apple's comparison's. But let me just say that anyway, just because it's i'm used to how much apple um not exaggerate but emphasizes a performance aspect.

And then I go to reality and whatever. There's some multiple er that they apply that maybe isn't quite IT, but I get us and used to IT these are remarkable numbers that they're saying um applies up to two point eight times more audio effect plugging in a logic pro project when compared to the intel mac money. okay.

So you jumping from the intel a cori seven I think to the m4 apply， so delivers up to thirteen point three times faster gaming performance in world warcraft, the war within. So thirteen point three times that's an incredible multiple. Er um and then enhances photos with up to thirty three times faster image upscaling performance.

So whatever you're used to, this is just a lot more than what apple usually when apple breaks about, you know it's up to forty percent faster. This is not forty percent faster. This is forty four hundred percent faster.

Now thirty three times faster, not thirty three percent faster. This is significant multiple. Er um there's a lot more of these kind of numbers.

I don't want to throw the mallet but but the thirteen pots, three percent faster gaming, sorry, thirteen point three times faster game performance. A world worker ft that you know i'd have to see this for myself. I have to get one, try building a project on my until, and then try building on this and see what the differences.

And we're going to see benchMarks, you know that say, now this is what IT actually is, but I expect this is going to be a screen and maybe the fastest. This is going be faster than anybody's development machine, short of maybe it's not faster than, uh, the mac pro highest stand. You know, maybe it's not, but maybe that is what would be amazing.

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The many. I yeah I am not a imac person because I like to to travel. This is not this is a traveling machine, but you have to have a display right.

So so if you are um you know having my laptop allows me to travel, but if I wanted a powerful machine and I was going from say, my studio to my office and said I was in two replaces, I would just have a display in each place you know a small display for um one place of all I was doing was email whatever and then you know a big multiple displays whatever. If I was going to a music studio I say, um but I could just throw I could pick this up. I can almost put IT in my pocket.

I can I don't have been a pockets but I can certainly um you know those pouches in the front of a switcher you know you put on a hood that little kangaroo patch in the you could easily fit IT in that which is amazing. But that's not the point is that this is very a very portable machine that is incredibly powerful. You couldn't take your mac pro and travel with IT, right? You couldn't have that kind of processing power um so I love this story.

I love how cheap this is. I uh I also love the laptops so that's my that's where where I am. I love the colors of the imac but i'm not a you don't know i'm i'm not ai.

I like my um if i'm going to have a big display, I wanted to plugged in to something else so that I can upgrade my display separately without having upgrade the whole computer. And I think with the imac you're tied to whenever display you, they're limited to twenty four inches, which is fine for me. Um but I but my I like a thirty inch display.

No, I have a lot of uh when especially like we're doing show prep or you and I are going through some things that we're testing whatever. I like having a lot of uh safari setups, safari windows open multiple all and comparing this thing to that thing back. And for we do a lot of stuff and notes um and um you know obviously all the audio software. So logic or you protons ls anyway, so that's that's my i'm just looking at my notes here.

You when you talk about things that you can do like tls and stuff like that, there is absolutely nothing that any of these machines can't do. And yeah, I would even go so far to look at um you up anything down to the m one. I mean the m one is still a very powerful machine as as far as doing things like you know audio and and all that. I mean it's it's just it's great.

So you know I think i've found about my macbook air, and I don't know if it's some set up thing that I have like there's a setting that would not solve this for me, but it's um I noticed when I open IT, there are times if you've used IT very recently, i'll open IT and it'll just be on and everything's all set up.

But when I go in the morning and opening up for the first time, I notice that IT takes a good amount of time to give all the to wake up all of the things I have running like I have email running and I have uh with a bunch taps and I have um uh cash. What's that uh R S S reader have an R S S reader. My name escapes me.

But um I have that and catching that up and it's you know all my news gathering thing. All of those things are waking up and IT takes time. Um i'm watching the my menu bar populate as each one of those things uh wakes up and goes to get this thing know there's various menu thing.

So i'm watching all that stuff happen and it's reasonably slow IT takes so I go get a cup coffee and then I come back and am fine and it's not a complaint as much as it's a ee wonder if I got a new mac mini or I got a new um say macbook pro if that if that would um or even a new m3 macbook。 I wonder if that would be the experience would be Better like if waking up have those slow though slowed you to to process things happening in the any bar? Do just this make sense what I say?

So that's that's a question for me. Um i'm i'm just not a position where i'm gonna spend a bunch of money on the stuff when I have something that works. Do I want to do that? Yes, I do.

I want to buy all the things. Yes, I do very go. So what adding .

in the um macbook pro change your thought on which machine is the best.

Um that's a that's a really good question. So you're saying if you said to me, dave, i'm going to buy you a machine of your choice yeah, I would choose the next book pro. I I really like the the macbook here for traveling.

It's just so light and IT doesn't wake me down and it's it's a small h it's a relatively small screen um but I do miss having a bigger screen but when i'm traveling I live IT and I love that I between my ipad a and my macbook air i've got as much. I I really love that. So I wouldn't trade that away.

I I wouldn't a travel with the macbook pro. I would always travel with with the macbook care. But as far as you know, just the screen, the the macbook pro display is gorgeous.

The new display ys um the the uh boy when they call that texture display, um it's really pretty and has like a textured to IT. It's uh you know it's it's a really nice that that would be a really nice thing to have. And the sixteen eight display obviously would be you know much nicer to have than a thirteen inch display, which is what I have .

now yeah um but that depends on the uh on the use case too you know I wouldn't want a sixteen display with what i'm .

doing right .

now because I just too .

big for traveling yeah yeah yeah exactly. I would keep the macbook here when i'm traveling and then just I I D have to set up that was um you know just set up for when i'm traveling. I'm generally not doing any any like i'm not doing music. I'm not doing i'm programing when i'm traveling. I'm doing the standard email and safari browsing and no other I have a couple other like I am read, I I read read IT like the apple related uh separates even on the road. Now read those and reading of course um so yeah so I so travel macbook care macbook pro when you decide to buy me one, that would be my that would be my home machine, I think um so are we going to a let see, is there anything else here on the mini now I think we're good on the mini. Yeah uh, so so we we're now onto the macbook pro.

Yeah yeah okay.

so let me switch here.

I I think it's amazing. You know when you'd look at things like the the m for max chip, um it's .

the the performance .

of those things is just incredible. You know that that would be a machine that would be good for years to cut my think.

So these numbers, these multiplier, so it's how do you know, right? Unless you run something on your own machine and then runner on your new machine, right? So some things I think, like I was saying, this waking up process on the m one mac book are is kind of slow to me. And IT wasn't IT when I first started, but I think I added I just added a lot more load to IT. But I wonder if a macbook per I bet the macbook pro is just you're open IT and is boom, it's on and everything slows, ed, and it's just very, very quick maybe um but you won't know until you have that experience with your own machine, you're new one.

If you're if you're running like here's here's the multiple ers for the macbook pro that apple talks about up to seven times faster image processing in affinity photo when compared to the thirteen inch macbook pro with core I seven um up to one point eight uh times faster when compared to the thirteen inch macbook pro with m1 to the entry level m1 macbook pro um but that's so that's almost twice as fast from the m one that's a that's a significant this is the m four， not the m4。 Uh uh pro or or max. Um let's let's go down a max, see if they talk about the max multiply here we go up to seven point.

So this is now the macbook pro with m for max. So the bit the highest stand macbook problem you can buy up to seven point eight. So eight percent faster scene rendering with maxon redshift, whatever that is compared to the intel based max.

So eight times faster, three and a hat times faster than the m one, uh, four point six times faster build uh, in x code, which I care about when compared to the a intel. And I do I still do a lot of building on my intel macbook pro because there are things that I can build um because they're dependent on intel. Yeah unfortunately um there are still libraries that that I I haven't been able to port over to APP silicon, although I hardly ever do that anymore.

Um and up to two point two percent to two times faster when compared to the m one. So five times faster x code compiling compared to the to the intel mac. That's that's significant. Um but again, I read that and there are i'm skeptical and I think a lot of people are skeptical when they read apple's .

marketing numbers. Well, I mean, they're under the absolute best conditions. I yeah and the Price maybe you know IT deterred for some people too, although the fourteen inch macbook o pro with the m4 starts to fifteen ninety nine， you know that's that's okay. But when you start going up there, if you get the m4 pro that's nineteen ninety nine and if you get the sixteen inch with A A pro that's twenty four and ninety nine.

it's always been that .

though I don't know, I knew that. But i'm i'm talking now we're comparing to the new IMAX, the mac mini and just looking at what computer you would buy. I mean, you know at some point there, a Price has to be A A fact depends on .

whose money IT is right? Well, that if I was your your business said get whatever you need to do your job well, that's gonna change the if you if you're buying IT for home, your little home business or are just having one at home, that's going to change what you are willing to spend on.

And if you know happy to have a gym delrio in your life who loves to buy his friend's presents, and um no, that um big push on apple intelligence throughout out the this is apple getting their apple intelligence, getting their hardware ready to run apple intelligence. And I know you know a lot of people you've certainly said this, but a lot of people say, um apple intelligence is just, you know it's not there. There's nothing nothing there yet.

I think this is apple getting putting themselves in a position where their audience is all ready to to run apple intelligence and it's not there yet right right now. You need an uh, fifteen pro, uh, iphone fifteen pro and pro max or later. So any of the iphone sixteenth will do IT.

But that that playing out a majority of people who have those iphone, so they're still IT may be by the time the next maybe next year, by the time the iphones hit, they'll be the majority of people will will be able to run apple intel gent on their funds. A lot more people, I think, who have max have m one or later max because that's been around for a while. Um but apple I think apple wants obviously the majority of their people to have a way of running apple intelligence.

And I think they're doing this the right way. They're getting the hardware in place first before they start really pushing this on all cylinders. Um and also again, whatever the reason, i'm making excuse for how long it's taken to get apple intelligence running.

What are whatever is it's clearly I think they're getting their hardware foundation in place and they're almost there. These new machines will all do um a great job, an apple intelligence that given you a really cheap on tray with five ninety nine mac. Many so you have if you already want to display by that makes many you know you have a very capable apple intelligence machine.

Um and if if then they start if their apple intelligence strategy roll out is effective, if they if they start building very compelling software solutions, and I think they will um maybe i'm naive, right? Um but if they start rolling out this their software solutions, they'll be IT. They won't encounter any resistance to IT because people will be able to to run them right that the people will not be frustrated like the apple doesn't want that they don't want to roll something out and then it's herky jerky because the machine doesn't have enough horsepower, right?

Um uh uh a side note here is that uh apple um buried in the I think he was in the macbook pro pressure somewhere down there they made a note this is weird that was in the macbook pressed they brought up the macbook air and they said all by the way um we no longer will ship a machine without sixteen gigs of of rain and that's again a very they buried the lead on that so so that means the macbook air, when you buy your macbook care you're getting a sixteen gig machine. You don't have to pay more for IT so it's like they lowered the Price by two hundred dollars right you with me on that? yes.

yeah. So again, they are, I think, thinking about apple intelligence, making sure that every machine they sell from is going to have a very positive experience with apple intelligence. And then when they start rolling out the new features, they're not they they control the using experience, which is very apple, right apple that always wants to control the user experience, the job of sometimes i'm looking at you Sunny but but they that is there um that is their tradition, right? They they even go back to the old days of the old backs where they had those um human interface guidelines where they said the button should say this word that should be in this corner of the dialogue.

And all remember that all of those things where apple would control, they were so controlling of the interface because they wanted every person to every application that shipped to have an OK button and to say the world OK spelled the right way. All of those things that was it's not as strong now in that regard, but they still want to control. They they want to put out.

They want the certain kind of polish on their displays. They want their phones to be made of a certain material so that its elegant IT looks like apple made this IT lives up to the standard that apple sets. I think that's what's happening with with these new machines in the sixteen gigs. And am I just dreaming here?

No, everything makes sense.

alright. So did you want to talk .

about the hearing health?

Oh, my god. Yes, I so glad you brought that up. So i'm going to i'm not going to dig into this a lot.

But we did talk about this last on the show the whole that those labs, the two different, the long wave lab and the to get with the other lab is called but um we talked about that but one of the things they did was they they actually released the hearing aid uh software um for the um um airports pro series too. I think that's a requirement. IT won't run on any of the other airports. But I had a friend, a really good friend, who is has profound hearing loss so he has to wear hearing aid.

You can have a conversation without them and I know there's a lot of people out there who could use hearing aides you talked last week about you took the hearing a test and you had the best hearing they've encountered I think went out what they said you have perfecting um but the usually the exception I think I think a lot of older people hearing losses is just a part life right um so my friend said i'm going to a try this and I have air pod's pro series too. I have I can do this. He took the test and i'm going to redo some of the things he said with permission.

Um okay. So he said i'm really quite impressed. The quality of the hearing assistance in IOS eighteen one, the hearing tests were far less and the results are consistent with the test tests administered by by audiologists.

Ideologist is when you have the really high end hearing, which he does, the really high and hearing aides and you go when they tune them, you go to with no idea who knows how to get the most thought of your hearing aid. So so we went to the logic and got basically a tuning a set of numbers and then he took apple test, which was free and get the same results, consistent results. Um they were very well as hearing aid, and they address a major issue for us, hearing impaired.

If someone needs to talk to you, I think this is a such an important point. If someone needs to talk with you while you're using airports to listen to an audio stream, if you take one or both airpower s out of your ears, you remain in your hearing impaired states. If you, if you are listening to you know when you're listening to music and eric comes over and talk to you, when you pull out a hearing, you pull out an area pod so you can hear her um and IT stops the audio for playing.

Um you're you know you're fine, but if you can't hear, you just pull out your hearing aid right right now if you pause the stream, whatever you're playing um as soon as you posit IT switches from unlistenable to audio from that set up that template to i'm hearing i'm in hearing aides IT automatic as soon as you posit IT makes a hearing aides and he he says this is a game changer and I agree yeah um I do not see them as were the replacements for my hearing aides a few things battery life, my hearing aid batteries last days and when the non rechargeable batteries ies run out, I can replace them in less than a minute. The batteries in the airpower s last only four hours or so and take time to recharge. So that's that's an issue.

So if you're listening to music or podcast, whenever this is great, these are great as hearing ids. But there is not enough battery life for them to function as true hearing aid going through life with with them running because you run out a battery and you can't just replace the battery after we charge them. I audio quality, the sound to hear through my hearing aides first is the airports is Better in every respect, but one, their podds seem to provide Better coverage for sound originating from behind me.

This kind of weird, i've never worn over the counter hearing aides, but only very expensive ones that cost more than twenty five times the cost of airports and require an audiologists to prescribe and program for my individual hearing profile. Airports may compare Better in this regard, too much less expensive over the counter unit. So if you, if over the counter is think this may be, I think so.

Battery life is something apples gonna have to address. They're going to have to find a way or there is never gna be able to take on this market. Um okay. So one thing I said to him was most hearing aides are designed to be hidden manner. Know, have you ever talk to someone with hearing aides and you didn't realize that to hearing aides in because they're clear and they have .

a little behind the ear thing? yeah. yeah. So airports, I think I think everybody has maybe they just didn't know .

IT yeah airpower. So they're designed that way, right? I think I think a lot of people won't even try hearing aides because there may be embarrassed or is intimidating.

That's true. So this is a thing you could try with airports s pro, but again, battery life. But if you're going to a restaurant for dinner, this might be a great solution.

Restaurants have a lot of hard surfaces, so the sound sounds is very hard to hear. Noisy environments, most restaurants. And you know, if you could put on the your airports pro and magically here everybody at your table, I think that's a game danger for .

some people you know for people that, uh, if you're going up with anybody in that table that doesn't know what you're doing IT also looks rude to have your headphones in. I talk to somebody you know so you know it's you have the embarrassment factor, which I do understand, but then you also have the like the social stigma stigma of of doing IT, but you you really do have to say, look, i'm i'm hard of hearing this.

This is you know hearing aid helping me. And then people I I think are fine because if if you go up and talk to somebody and they have their their headphones and you have no idea whether you know they have music gone or yes, if the dorgan ism IT just looks like you, I always trying to take my my um airports do. Now I would .

say that more and more, that's becoming a Normalized thing. People wearing phones while they're walking around, whatever, and you talk to them and they have a pass through. And I had tons of conversations with people, especially Younger people who are wearing headphones. And I get IT that's just part of who they are so so I don't think I think this I think the stig a is easy to get past, especially if you say to people, yeah I these are actually serving as hearing aid for me. But you know, like if you go to a restaurant with your family, no one's gna care.

If you go to a meeting kind of restaurant, you at a restaurant having a business meeting, I think maybe I be a little more intimidating, right, because you'd be a sort of be painting yourself maybe as a week or something like that. If you've said i'm wearing his hearing adds, i'm wearing these are hearing is but I don't care. I would do IT and I would do IT because then I could hear Better. So but I get that I absolutely get the intimidation character or so that IT that's as IT I could go on for another hour a half about these new acts too.

Yeah, I know a lot to lot to look at there.

We have time for what we're watching.

Yeah, let's let's do a little bit of what were watching. I have I have several shows, but i'm never trouble catching up on all the travel on everything. So there's one show um called Angel of death.

It's on max IT has four seasons and you probably won't know any of the actors because it's a polish show OK. But you know the same thing is an netflix show that I talked about before. Turn on A A english audio and it's it's pretty good and means not something that you're onna really notice that they're speaking a different language.

So um really good show. It's a thillard. It's you know about the tracking down A A serial killer, but he's really good at what he does.

So um it's it's a great show. We're on season two of that one right now. There's I think seven episodes of season, so really good show. I you know I had how to recommend that one.

So I and then uh any others that you want to talk about you I move .

on to the step move right?

So i'll try to be quick air um this show is running a little long but where we're good um okay. So one thing that happened was, uh netflix has added um a new feature and I don't know when it's dropping, I don't know it's there now, but I just read about IT uh, couple of days ago. Um it's called the moments feature.

But IT IT basically makes IT so that you can share a clip from a show and social media. So I don't know if this is then um you know sort of building a set of clips for every one of their shows or if that there's a way for you to uh pick A A A section of the show and and recorded yourself. But it's interesting to me that's just i'm looking at this.

It's that flicks launching or IT launched monday allows us to quickly save their favorite moments from netflix. Series of films reveal these moments of the class, if if I can at, if I can pick a part of a show and share IT are more likely to do that. Then if I have to look through their library, which to me is nothing, there's no big benefit to that, but I haven't done in that, but I will.

I look into this, but I show that I really add a lot to me. That I really wanted to talk about is a show called Bruce prince in road diary. It's on hou and disney plus.

Yeah, I have been A A Bruce fan my entire life. I've seen him countless numbers of times in concert. Um a thing about Bruce springton is that uh people who our fans recognize that him in concert is an experience. He is a hearing his his albums is one thing but seeing him alive, it's like a whole different experience. It's that's the real juice. That's the you that the the core of brisbane is seeing him like because he he's like a preacher and you know he he tells stories and he um you know he gets you to understand what's happening and a lot of time he tells the story.

That's like a set up and he's playing music in the background as he's talking and he's talking about this experience that he had in his life and how this meant something, maybe something we went through with his father when he was a kid and the music playing in the background, the whole bands there, and they go and, but very quietly in the background, just a little bit of Melody of a little bit of a Melody, and then he gets to the of the story, and then IT hits. He hits the, you know, the start of the song where the riff that you recognize us, oh, he's playing this song and the crowd goes well. D, that is that is part of the Bruce brinks stine experience.

Um this ruse princeton road diary is basically a story about him being on the road and what it's like going putting on a show. And it's amazing it's so well crafted. And if you're Bruce and Bruce and this is required, what you will love every bit of IT.

There are songs that are my favorite songs that are obscure ably. No one else knows the song kitties back, except a sprinklin fan knows the song, but you are you? A springin fam perun not a massive spring in fan is a song Kitty y's back mean anything to you? No, yeah. So but he does this. He part of the this is they talk about and it's all the people associated with them are talking about know being on the road with bows and what what's goes into setting IT up of a show and um practice what is practice like and what is you know setting up and in a concert venue how do you how do you get the sound right all that stuff yeah but he um he um one of the things they talk about is how many genres of music he explores and there's this one science is a moment about um I want to say about an hour and two minutes in and the the song is Kitty is back and and he just it's a great example of him doing a live performance and how different how those different genres all come together and and change is happen anyway, i'm a big fan. Thank you for her coming to my ted talk.

Yeah I think things like um the Bruce one, maybe the uh the beetles one, it's it's more able being a fan of music in those cases. And i'm not a huge Bruce fan I never have but I have a ton of respect for Bruce up for his song writing, for his performances. I mean, his performances are legendary.

So and he don't know how old this is like any seventies .

at least brings IT.

Like you'll see when you watch the thing, you'll be like how how is this possible that he's doing this?

I think anybody that's a sic fan should take some time in and watch these types of of things. So yeah, good. All right.

that's what I got.

was great talking to a day. Got this will be, actually, i'm gna be important fired, I think, for about three weeks. So what .

will be recording a each show from part of biota?

Maybe I have down there, but you never know I could be home tomorrow. I mean, these days you just don't know so, but um I will talk to you next week regardless. Hi, body.

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