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一觉醒来,发现自己变“中女”了【不上班办公室#35】

2024/9/14
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安安:认为"中女"一词的含义在社交媒体语境下已转变为褒义,代表着独立、自信、有力量的女性形象。同时,也指出"中女"概念的流行可能与新的消费陷阱有关,商家会利用这一概念推销特定商品和生活方式。 四喜:对"中女"一词的定义变化进行了详细阐述,从最初的贬义含义到如今更宽泛的含义,并批判了将特定年龄段女性与特定穿着打扮联系起来的刻板印象。 凯莉:认为"中女"阶段最爽的是拥有事业和财富,最痛苦的是不能完全遵循本心,要优先考虑责任。 潮潮女士:认为"中女"阶段最爽的是积累了生活阅历和资产,拥有安全感;最痛苦的是不清楚自己想要什么,不知道自己是谁,以及在职场中面临的年龄歧视。 其他朋友:分享了各自对"中女"概念的理解和看法,以及在"中女"阶段面临的挑战和机遇。 安安:认为"中女"阶段的女性不再羡慕年轻人,因为她们拥有更丰富的阅历和更成熟的心态,并分享了自己对年龄和衰老的看法。 四喜:认为"中女"阶段最爽的是经济基础好,可以做自己想做的事;最痛苦的是后悔年轻时没有这样做,以及对未来和人生的思考。 其他朋友:分享了各自对"中女"阶段生活和心态变化的看法,以及对未来规划的思考。

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What is the definition of '中女' (middle-aged women) according to the podcast?

The term '中女' refers to single women aged 30 to 45, often characterized by high education, high income, and high positions. Initially, it carried a negative connotation, but it has since become more neutral and even positive in some contexts.

Why has the term '中女' gained popularity recently?

The term '中女' has gained popularity as it has been repackaged as a consumer demographic. Women in this age group often have significant purchasing power, making them a target for marketing specific products and lifestyles.

What are some of the challenges faced by '中女'?

Middle-aged women face challenges such as declining physical health, societal expectations, and the pressure to balance career and family responsibilities. They also often feel the weight of aging parents and the need to plan for the next stages of life.

How do '中女' view the concept of returning to their younger years?

Many '中女' express that they do not wish to return to their younger years, as they feel they lacked life experience and confidence back then. However, they do acknowledge the lower cost of mistakes and greater freedom that younger people enjoy.

What is the significance of the '离火运' (Li Fire Luck) mentioned in the podcast?

The '离火运' is an astrological concept suggesting that from 2024 to 2043, middle-aged women will thrive, particularly in the technology and cultural industries. This period is seen as a time of empowerment and growth for women in these fields.

How do '中女' feel about societal expectations and judgments?

Many '中女' report that they care less about societal judgments as they age. They focus more on their own feelings and priorities, having gained confidence and life experience that allows them to disregard external opinions.

What are some of the positive aspects of being a '中女'?

Positive aspects of being a '中女' include financial independence, accumulated life experience, and a stronger sense of self. Many women in this stage feel more confident and capable of making decisions that align with their true desires.

How do '中女' perceive their physical changes as they age?

While '中女' acknowledge the physical changes that come with aging, such as slower metabolism and the appearance of gray hair, many have come to accept these changes as a natural part of life and focus more on maintaining their overall well-being.

What is the role of media in shaping the perception of '中女'?

Media often misrepresents '中女' by portraying them as either overly successful or as failures if they haven't achieved certain milestones by 30. This creates unrealistic expectations and pressures that many women feel compelled to live up to.

How do '中女' approach their careers and professional growth?

Many '中女' prioritize stability and work-life balance over climbing the corporate ladder. They often prefer roles that allow them to maintain their quality of life without the added stress of leadership responsibilities.

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本期节目讨论了近年来网络上流行的「中女」一词,两位主持人就其含义、褒贬含义及社会现象展开了讨论。她们认为,「中女」一词最初可能带有贬义,但现在更多的是中性词或褒义词,代表着高学历、高收入、高职位女性群体。
  • 「中女」一词的含义在网络上存在多种解读,从大龄单身女性到高学历高收入女性均有包含。
  • 「中女」一词的褒贬含义取决于语境和个人理解,但总体而言,其负面含义正在逐渐减少。
  • 节目中引用了韩剧《我叫金三顺》为例,说明大众对「中女」的刻板印象正在改变。

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一觉醒来,发现互联网又造出了新概念——中女。什么是中女?四喜和安安带着5个关于中女的问题,采访了身边的中女们,也闲聊了自己的看法。

你觉得“中女”这个词是褒义还是贬义?

你觉得中女最爽/最痛苦的事分别是什么?

你成为中女后,还在意别人的眼光吗?

作为中女,会希望自己年轻一些,或者羡慕年轻的人吗?

如果有机会回到十年前,你愿意再来一次吗?

【OP:Madonna - Material Girl 】

Shownotes

01:03

中女这个词是什么意思?

02:12

高学历、高收入、高职位这样的三高女性也被定义为中女

04:13

给一群人下定义的时候,我们就会警醒一件事,就是不是它又是一个新的消费陷阱

05:19

之前网络风行白女三件套、韩女三件套,现在还有中女三件套——山本裤+鬼冢虎鞋+long champ包,但我们觉得这些定义特别莫名其妙

06:16

十几二十岁的时候,有幻想过自己 35 以上或者 40 岁以上是什么样的吗?

08:24

你觉得中女这个词是褒义还是贬义?

10:37

《我叫金三顺》,小时候我觉得是一无是处的女性,最后跟一个大帅哥在一起是运气好。但三十几岁再去看的时候,我觉得三顺非常厉害,个性很强,并且有魅力

11:37

你觉得中女这个时间段最爽、最开心的事是什么?最痛苦的事又是什么?

13:39

中女的时候开始思考下一阶段的事情了,而年轻的时候基本上不会去思考

14:11

10 年前的日剧《around 30无修正》,对中女的刻画有很多很多的误解

16:20

你成为中女之后,你会在意别人的眼光吗?

17:41

我觉得“晚学”是每个女孩都要学的学科,我们不能把自己当做客体,要知道自己要什么,不要陷入自证陷阱

20:44

今年欧美说唱圈Nicki Minaj和Megan Thee Stallion的风波,最后麻辣鸡用《Big foot》的歌去讽刺马冬梅脚大,也很荒诞

22:40

别自己当做客体,不要在脑子里重复别人怎么看自己

23:19

会希望自己还是年轻一点好吗?

27:14

如果有机会可以回到 10 年前,你愿意再来一次吗?

29:37

朋友:看到国内鸭子数量暴增,中女时代真的是来了

32:12

看到白发对自己造成的冲击

33:08

在职场35+在和25+的同事做同样的工作内容,会不会有一些羞耻感?

36:55

以前打破过自己的舒适区,从头开始,那也就不害怕再来一次

38:28

有些公司和猎头,对35+员工的要求很离谱

40:41

玄学说2024年是离火运。这段时间中女发展会很好,尤其是科技行业和文化产业

43:52

“中女”女明星尚雯婕的直播,实际直播内容是复旦名师帮大家学英语;“中女”女明星张静初的直播,则是愁眉苦脸在线做作业,主打真实

46:41

推荐我最近看过的最好看的,全女性的韩国综艺《女高推理班》

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